Great list! I would personally adjust only a few things: 1. *Shaffron* (Light Imp Champion) is much better than people think he is. He can easily keep up a 20k+ shield permanently while doing great dmg (8.3 multiplier s3!) and very good turncycling plus revenge buff. He needs quite a lot of stats though including 100% crit. I would put him in the *C tier* on the border to B. 2. *Jubelle* (Dark Vagabond) is a very usefull unit in all of pvp. siege, gw, even some arena bruiser offs. Very strong and very useful while being quite easy to build. He is useless in PvE but for PvP he is one of the best 2A atm. Put him up in *A tier* quickly before anyone sees him in C ;-) 3. *Lyn* (Light Amazon) is just massively overrated. It is a single target boss destroyer. Thats it. she has no uses anywhere else and even hinders most PvE teams because she doesnt bring anything else. You can use her effectively only in the Water B10 dungeon. Does that make her an A? I would give her a *C tier* . More is just unjustified in my eyes. 4. *Zinc* (Dark Living Armor), while great, is just not used in many places. he is a great buff blocker, but how useful is that in reality? On SF10 he is outshined by the Wind KFG or the Fire Lizardman, in pvp he just doesnt bring enough to the table... sadly i would put him one down into the *B tier* . 5. *Varus* (Dark Griffon) is indeed great. If he works. Sadly he is countered heavily by three things. Control, Immunity and Def break. Especially Def break renders him completely useless with no dmg, no survivability and no chance to use his passive. Because of this glaring weakness i would put him one down to *A tier* . 6. *Mantura* (Dark Serpent) is also a great unit, useful in early PvE teams and PvP. In theory he has a great kit as a bruiser/support especially in guild content. In the end he will def break anyone for two turns and the rest is a waiting game before s3 is up again. His impact, while decent, is often times just not very high. Therefore i would also put him down one rank into *A tier* . 7. *Xiao Ling* (Light Martial Cat) is a decent unit and when uncontrolled can be a big nuissance. She is a HP scaling bruiser with lots of turncycling. Problem with her is, she is insanely stat hungry. And the runes that she needs can just do more on other units. She is fun though when she works. Perfect *A tier* unit i feel. 8. *Tien Qin* (Light Drunken Master) is great and especially usefull in Laby as a dmg/healer hybrid which is a rare species. BUT he needs a shitload of stats to really perform well. If DK get a 2A in the future he will probably just be triple SSS mega broken tier but as it is now, he is a difficult to build, decently well performing unit that can possible even be used in pvp if you really want to. But S tier seems a bit much for him. I think *A tier* would be more fitting.
Miho shined for a while for two reasons: 1) It took time for folks to learn to counter, and some units were added that directly countered her. 2) There was the Crit Rate bug giving every single unit extra Crit Rate. She benefitted hard from that bug. She's now become a cool, niche counter.
when bagel talks about units he tried but they were so bad he couldnt make a video, i want a comp of him showing off how bad they are, cuzsaying nothing about the work you did is a waste i think. id also like to see how terrible some units are
Thank you for this updated tier list 🤗 Love my Mantura and Tien Qin. I feel like people hella underrate them. I mean, it would make for a bunch of tiers, but you could make each Rank into multilayer tiers. By that I mean at the higher ranks (A for example) have an A rank for dungeons tier and then an A rank for Guild Content tier. Would clarify the information in some ways but also make things more messy. You'd probably have to move away from this particular tier chart and use a different form to make that work.
sounds like you're thinking of something similar to a branching tier list or a simple split tier list a zoned tier list would also work for ones that are useful in multiple areas
I'd love to see you do a list for the LD 4s and LD5s too so we can get an understanding of those too and maybe discover a hidden gem. I know LD5s would be hard since they're rare monsters but it'd still be nice to know what's still meta, what's fallen off, hidden gems etc
My optinion: Thrain, Shaman, witches are above a mantura or that lightcat...jubelle is probably the best siege ld3 def unit in the game - tvj is a spammable def in g2 siege; darion is extremly effektive for guidlcontent (tartaros hell, siege off etc. ) He is unique, Mantura is replaceable by so many nat4/5
This video came out at the perfect time for me. Been going through and building 3 star lds lately and was wondering what to do after light werewolf and the witches
I envy your ability to have something to say about anything. I mean all streamers are supposed to be talkative but you even more lol. Love your content
Chacha and Friends is a direct counter to the new Battle Angel 5* and an easy way to counter Douglas. When the Battle Angels are buffed, Chacha will be more useful in all PvP content. Kumae is such an underrated counter unit for turn 2 comps, especially against spd based damage units. I can't wait for the yeti 2A; doesn't need better skills, but will be so good with more stats.
I would like to know what mons you haven't built an I used 2 dark lizard in my GB 12. Also wish sharks would change but still have the slow to pair well with dark stock boy.
I think units like Eludain and Drogan (Inferno's) would benefit greatly from a 2nd awakening. Eludain's kit isn't bad in theory (turn cycling on s1, crit-stun on s2, and single target full strip on s3), but he's so squishy that he doesn't survive long after doing what he needs to, even with violent runes, not to mention being incredibly slow. Drogan would be much more useable if his passive did more flat dmg, like 66% instead of 33%, and did something else to be annoying for the other team (something like stealing beneficial effects on s2). I like using Rasheed on 4 star towers in guild siege, paired up with Galleon and Dusky, so long as you land that def break on the tanky unit, you get a free kill and a huge shield for Dusky to sweep the rest of the team. I'd also be excited for a Bounty Hunter 2nd awakening, Walkers and Jamie are both solid units, with much of their downsides being that, like the inferno's, they're very squishy.
I haven't played in 2 years... I feel like it's an entirely new game! I need advice on how to get back to it... trusty jewbagel still makes videos! Thank God!
Dark Drunken master is used by some in replace of Belial in tricaru comps if they don't have Belial, still takes great runes to pull it off but can work and is fun.
i used to use the light inferno for stun-locking healers. free crit rate in 1st/2nd skills, skill 1 has similar turn cycle to oracles. an easy stun with 2-turn cooldown and his skill 3 full strips . If the infernos had better stats, especially speed, he would be at least C tier.
I'm just coming back to summoners war after 2 years, I would love a simple videos on easy comps to make to help my guild out in guild wars attack and Def, possibly arena. Right now I struggle most finding teams that synergise together that I have. I try to copy as much as I see but alot of the times I don't have that Mon that they use so I get flustered on what I should use.
I sent an email asking your thoughts on LD-only accounts regarding 2A units that require other elements.. Thoughts on it? does it break your self-imposed rule of LD only??
Bagel I honestly wish you'd do a video with light and dark strictly for pve content. So much of Thai game is only if the unit is how good in pvp. Please do a tier list for pve light dark only content.
the icon for Vagabons musst be very diffrent from the base variant. are they still good? i remeber dark vagabond to be s tier but that was many years ago.
I recently 6 stared my water weapon master and have no idea what to use him for or what teams he has cynergy with. Could you make a video on what to use him with and against?
I'd move Belladeon into SSS tier along with your current SS tier for being great at both PvE and PvP. I'd then move Kro alone into his own SS tier for being a true PvE god. Keep everything else the same. I'd line it up that way because Kro is strictly better at PvE than any of the S tier units are at PvP, they're all niche picks. Kro is not a niche pick for PvE.
I think Miho deserves B tier, I think she is still a decent unit in PVP if you can avoid her counters. I would also like to see Darion and Basalt higher. Darion because he is good for R5, and you need three R5 teams now. And I use Basalt myself to auto TOAH. Provoke, AOE atk bar red, DEF increase (Nice with my Verad) and heal are all just useful to clear it. I myself have units like Dark Reaper built. He seems good, But I am just not even sure where to use it, so he just sits in storage now. It's like, I would rather just use Mellia or Rica.
@@angelitabecerra I obviously want to do that. So that I can Arena/TOA etc. in the meantime. And so that I don't run into leavers or bad teammates and get failed runs.
kro is a sub meta unit when he's not built right hits meta when built right easily, I don't like the light vagabond because he was buffed and nerfed with the 2a. Honestly Cassie should be higher for the simple fact that her s3 can kill mons that are invincible it even damages through shields. I've never liked some of the mons and agree that they're low tier trash and not worth building I have regretted 6*in the dark yeti almost from the beginning my only excuse was I needed a 6* and he was the best looking one at the time.
I used my Robot (dark bulldo) someties RTA, il's liettraly a "toy" wich isnn't use most in the GvO, but with good rurange and against team who habe a lot of litght mob I have to admit that I dont regret my choice.
Like 1 minute into the video and ima have to disagree with Jubelle being C tier, i'd at least put him at B tier, the amount of times he's saved me in pvp is so nice and i feel ppl underestimate just how good being able to infinitely provoke enemies can be
Kro is fantastic in dungeons but that's about it. Dungeon God, but you're not really taking him into other content over other units. Mantura is also fantastic in dungeons, Guild Content, ToA, arena, and RTA. He really shines everywhere if you build him well and pair him with the right units.
@@angelitabecerra to me it’s how good he is in almost ever PvE aspect that should make him S tier. I saw some in there that aren’t used like light cat, sure she is a good unit but to put her above Kro just feels wrong
Drogan is good in toa like he is slept on if you bring a good reviver just have them kill drogan revive him and repeat I beat allot of hard floors like the artamiel and
Took me forever to get Gina. Finally got her weeks before she was 2a. Literally played the game for 4 years and got a ld 5 before a meta 2a ld3 (got Jackson right after Sky Surfers were released so relatively new and not meta).
I understand why you placed characters in buckets but it’s bad logic. Let’s use Riley as an example easy to get and ramp up no one uses Fran , with Lulu. So what is good unit does not matter if there is a better 3 star. Shamann is another example he is better than any 5 star in many areas . Be nicer if you said what is better and if those were not 5 stars then don’t bother building at this point
for me light viking more better than bella 🤔 since it easy to build & skill up and his a.i always spam the 3rd skill if avaiable, but well it just for me of course
Can't believe you put Shumar and Calicus on the same tier with as Shamar and Rumicus (who somehow made it out of just terrible) Also Dona 2 tiers aboe Kuma ? The monster that sometimes gets used in raids and is pure garbage otherwise is 2 tiers above one of the only 3 3 stars with an 100% aoe def break ? Ahman should be out of there, he's Perna tier of healing in cooldown time up labyrinth. While some healers have 4 turns cooldown on their aoe heals, he heals whole team for 80% of his tank hp in 4 turns, very good until late game. Great video otherwise
Great list! I would personally adjust only a few things:
1. *Shaffron* (Light Imp Champion) is much better than people think he is. He can easily keep up a 20k+ shield permanently while doing great dmg (8.3 multiplier s3!) and very good turncycling plus revenge buff. He needs quite a lot of stats though including 100% crit.
I would put him in the *C tier* on the border to B.
2. *Jubelle* (Dark Vagabond) is a very usefull unit in all of pvp. siege, gw, even some arena bruiser offs. Very strong and very useful while being quite easy to build. He is useless in PvE but for PvP he is one of the best 2A atm. Put him up in *A tier* quickly before anyone sees him in C ;-)
3. *Lyn* (Light Amazon) is just massively overrated. It is a single target boss destroyer. Thats it. she has no uses anywhere else and even hinders most PvE teams because she doesnt bring anything else. You can use her effectively only in the Water B10 dungeon. Does that make her an A?
I would give her a *C tier* . More is just unjustified in my eyes.
4. *Zinc* (Dark Living Armor), while great, is just not used in many places. he is a great buff blocker, but how useful is that in reality? On SF10 he is outshined by the Wind KFG or the Fire Lizardman, in pvp he just doesnt bring enough to the table...
sadly i would put him one down into the *B tier* .
5. *Varus* (Dark Griffon) is indeed great. If he works. Sadly he is countered heavily by three things. Control, Immunity and Def break. Especially Def break renders him completely useless with no dmg, no survivability and no chance to use his passive.
Because of this glaring weakness i would put him one down to *A tier* .
6. *Mantura* (Dark Serpent) is also a great unit, useful in early PvE teams and PvP. In theory he has a great kit as a bruiser/support especially in guild content. In the end he will def break anyone for two turns and the rest is a waiting game before s3 is up again. His impact, while decent, is often times just not very high. Therefore i would also put him down one rank into *A tier* .
7. *Xiao Ling* (Light Martial Cat) is a decent unit and when uncontrolled can be a big nuissance. She is a HP scaling bruiser with lots of turncycling. Problem with her is, she is insanely stat hungry. And the runes that she needs can just do more on other units.
She is fun though when she works. Perfect *A tier* unit i feel.
8. *Tien Qin* (Light Drunken Master) is great and especially usefull in Laby as a dmg/healer hybrid which is a rare species. BUT he needs a shitload of stats to really perform well. If DK get a 2A in the future he will probably just be triple SSS mega broken tier but as it is now, he is a difficult to build, decently well performing unit that can possible even be used in pvp if you really want to.
But S tier seems a bit much for him. I think *A tier* would be more fitting.
Miho shined for a while for two reasons:
1) It took time for folks to learn to counter, and some units were added that directly countered her.
2) There was the Crit Rate bug giving every single unit extra Crit Rate. She benefitted hard from that bug.
She's now become a cool, niche counter.
And onimusha was introduced around the time of crit rate bug
Nvm you already said that - I can’t read lol
We all remember that 1v4 in swc lol
when bagel talks about units he tried but they were so bad he couldnt make a video, i want a comp of him showing off how bad they are, cuzsaying nothing about the work you did is a waste i think. id also like to see how terrible some units are
I can get behind this
2nd that 1
3rded.
4th
let's go I've been waiting for a Bagel's blooper series
The way Fran is always on the top of the list the entire game history lol
Thank you for this updated tier list 🤗
Love my Mantura and Tien Qin. I feel like people hella underrate them.
I mean, it would make for a bunch of tiers, but you could make each Rank into multilayer tiers. By that I mean at the higher ranks (A for example) have an A rank for dungeons tier and then an A rank for Guild Content tier.
Would clarify the information in some ways but also make things more messy. You'd probably have to move away from this particular tier chart and use a different form to make that work.
Tien Qin is essential to doing Hard Tart with minis up or even Hell Tart if you are better than me. SO GOOD for tart.
sounds like you're thinking of something similar to a branching tier list or a simple split tier list a zoned tier list would also work for ones that are useful in multiple areas
I'd love to see you do a list for the LD 4s and LD5s too so we can get an understanding of those too and maybe discover a hidden gem. I know LD5s would be hard since they're rare monsters but it'd still be nice to know what's still meta, what's fallen off, hidden gems etc
My optinion: Thrain, Shaman, witches are above a mantura or that lightcat...jubelle is probably the best siege ld3 def unit in the game - tvj is a spammable def in g2 siege; darion is extremly effektive for guidlcontent (tartaros hell, siege off etc. ) He is unique, Mantura is replaceable by so many nat4/5
tvj?
@@SNE4KZ i think triana - vigor - jubelle but not sure
This video came out at the perfect time for me. Been going through and building 3 star lds lately and was wondering what to do after light werewolf and the witches
I built the hellhounds, light one is ok, but the dark one is a glass cannon.
@@zenonawful5074 hellhound 2a gunna be meta immediately.
FINALLY!!!! Been waiting for this as i'm planning on creating a 2* and 3* lnd only!!
A new and updated 2nd awakening tier list would be also nice to have. I‘d much appreciate that 🙏
Best part of a bagel tier list is the more he drags a unit the more he's probably tried to make it work himself, that's a list I can trust.
I envy your ability to have something to say about anything. I mean all streamers are supposed to be talkative but you even more lol. Love your content
I started an ld account 3 days ago, so this will be very useful, thanks!
prop to you bagel really cool thing to do to keep us updated
Great video again! I dont think you did labyrinth bosses video but if you look them up on you tube you only have verry old video's just FYI 😉
284 million with Crawler (I think thats the dark one) apparently took 16 hours.
The average guild battle time
Wheel Of Doom
Wheel Of Doom we Need
Chacha and Friends is a direct counter to the new Battle Angel 5* and an easy way to counter Douglas. When the Battle Angels are buffed, Chacha will be more useful in all PvP content.
Kumae is such an underrated counter unit for turn 2 comps, especially against spd based damage units. I can't wait for the yeti 2A; doesn't need better skills, but will be so good with more stats.
Chacha is one of my faves. Love wrecking high attack units with her
I would like to know what mons you haven't built an I used 2 dark lizard in my GB 12. Also wish sharks would change but still have the slow to pair well with dark stock boy.
every year i come back to this video when i get to choose 1 ld 3* from the yearly birthday gift XD thanks so much bagel
(dont tell anyone this is the first time im watching this)
I think units like Eludain and Drogan (Inferno's) would benefit greatly from a 2nd awakening. Eludain's kit isn't bad in theory (turn cycling on s1, crit-stun on s2, and single target full strip on s3), but he's so squishy that he doesn't survive long after doing what he needs to, even with violent runes, not to mention being incredibly slow.
Drogan would be much more useable if his passive did more flat dmg, like 66% instead of 33%, and did something else to be annoying for the other team (something like stealing beneficial effects on s2).
I like using Rasheed on 4 star towers in guild siege, paired up with Galleon and Dusky, so long as you land that def break on the tanky unit, you get a free kill and a huge shield for Dusky to sweep the rest of the team.
I'd also be excited for a Bounty Hunter 2nd awakening, Walkers and Jamie are both solid units, with much of their downsides being that, like the inferno's, they're very squishy.
I really like Ahman, he's useful in long streched-out battles lift rift, at least with the mons I have
Really good video, but could you also make a tier list of those monsters for an ld only account? or should you just build everything there?
I actually love my jubelle in rta, his provoke overload can do so much, actually more single target cc than my seara
I haven't played in 2 years... I feel like it's an entirely new game! I need advice on how to get back to it... trusty jewbagel still makes videos! Thank God!
You mentioned 4*'s that compliment these units. Any videos on unit synergies and team comps?... Or unit counters when paired with?? (Gw and Siege) 😁
Dark Drunken master is used by some in replace of Belial in tricaru comps if they don't have Belial, still takes great runes to pull it off but can work and is fun.
Really feel like kro should be atleast mid S tier because you can use him in giants, all element essence farm dungeons, and all rifts and
I was trying to use Jumaline for a cleave team in case Lushen is taken... I gave her my best rage set... pretty disappointing.
when are the new second awakenings coming
Nobody knows
i used to use the light inferno for stun-locking healers. free crit rate in 1st/2nd skills, skill 1 has similar turn cycle to oracles. an easy stun with 2-turn cooldown and his skill 3 full strips . If the infernos had better stats, especially speed, he would be at least C tier.
I'm just coming back to summoners war after 2 years, I would love a simple videos on easy comps to make to help my guild out in guild wars attack and Def, possibly arena.
Right now I struggle most finding teams that synergise together that I have. I try to copy as much as I see but alot of the times I don't have that Mon that they use so I get flustered on what I should use.
Hey Bagel! Have you done a new version of this? Or is this pretty solid?
I sent an email asking your thoughts on LD-only accounts regarding 2A units that require other elements.. Thoughts on it? does it break your self-imposed rule of LD only??
Like Sacreon. Which is the only place i think.
Im pretty sure he addressed that, he only used 2 units and only farmed like b1 or 2
Yeah it breaks the rule.
id love a LD series again but updated haha i cant find noone else who did =/
Hey bagel would love you to make an updated one!
I feel like Chacha and Friends is/are very underrated.
Agreed. What a little beast. Shields for days and totally disarms high attack units with an uncleansable debuff and literally steals that attack lol
Bagel I honestly wish you'd do a video with light and dark strictly for pve content. So much of Thai game is only if the unit is how good in pvp. Please do a tier list for pve light dark only content.
the icon for Vagabons musst be very diffrent from the base variant. are they still good? i remeber dark vagabond to be s tier but that was many years ago.
i've seen this dark beast hunter act like a total chad in special league 20 stars , still got PTSD of these 50k true damages
I recently 6 stared my water weapon master and have no idea what to use him for or what teams he has cynergy with. Could you make a video on what to use him with and against?
I'm used to seeing a link from a certain website on these link list websites.
I'd move Belladeon into SSS tier along with your current SS tier for being great at both PvE and PvP. I'd then move Kro alone into his own SS tier for being a true PvE god. Keep everything else the same. I'd line it up that way because Kro is strictly better at PvE than any of the S tier units are at PvP, they're all niche picks. Kro is not a niche pick for PvE.
I believe you missed the Light Howl. As a penance you now must give us Light Howl video. I'm gonna go ahead and say probably S tier according to this.
check B tier
@@PrestoontheToon LOL dude i scanned that thing for like 10 minutes looking.
@@seanmcelroy6222 haha well at least you found it now
Ahmen is useful in Lab in floors with increased cool down, unless you have Perna.
Who says you cant use both?
Oh great. I have a choice between eishir and shamann. Now I’m wondering which
thx for the list!
Hey Bagel keep the good!
Jack-o-lanterns?.... I abuse Dusky all the time lol. I'm interested in where you would put them!
they are 4*
@@gamingwithgeekwares4416 oh u right lol
Thanks Bagel, btw, you cana rename the other video to something like [OUTDATED], ppl still will not read, buy u have not to apologize for that xD
The martial artists are actually super good if runed right
For Every player that holds a record in almost all PVE content....Kro is in the team. Does it REALLY make sense to have Kro is A tier?
Im soooo hoping for a Headhunter 2A soon that would be awesome
The OF link was not what I was expecting.
I think Miho deserves B tier, I think she is still a decent unit in PVP if you can avoid her counters. I would also like to see Darion and Basalt higher. Darion because he is good for R5, and you need three R5 teams now. And I use Basalt myself to auto TOAH. Provoke, AOE atk bar red, DEF increase (Nice with my Verad) and heal are all just useful to clear it.
I myself have units like Dark Reaper built. He seems good, But I am just not even sure where to use it, so he just sits in storage now. It's like, I would rather just use Mellia or Rica.
I use Thrain for toan/toah with Fran, verad, Sath and water homie
You don't need 3 R5 teams. Only if you want to solo R5 and not R5 with others
@@angelitabecerra I obviously want to do that. So that I can Arena/TOA etc. in the meantime. And so that I don't run into leavers or bad teammates and get failed runs.
@@bordeaux1337 I just rune with guild mates. Helps out myself, my guild mates, and works for a guild achievement. Win, win, win
kro is a sub meta unit when he's not built right hits meta when built right easily, I don't like the light vagabond because he was buffed and nerfed with the 2a. Honestly Cassie should be higher for the simple fact that her s3 can kill mons that are invincible it even damages through shields. I've never liked some of the mons and agree that they're low tier trash and not worth building I have regretted 6*in the dark yeti almost from the beginning my only excuse was I needed a 6* and he was the best looking one at the time.
Hi bagel, can you do the same for LD 4s?
I barely use LD nat 2 or 3, just Loren, Fran, kro and the light Amazon girl aside from that I have no idea, oh yes belladion too...
17:10 what rune farming dungeon?
Wait ... am i blind or is the Light Harg missing?
Light Harg is 4*
I used my Robot (dark bulldo) someties RTA, il's liettraly a "toy" wich isnn't use most in the GvO, but with good rurange and against team who habe a lot of litght mob I have to admit that I dont regret my choice.
Light martial cat is good? It was my favorite waifu monster.
Thrain SSS for me, objectivly for sure
Like 1 minute into the video and ima have to disagree with Jubelle being C tier, i'd at least put him at B tier, the amount of times he's saved me in pvp is so nice and i feel ppl underestimate just how good being able to infinitely provoke enemies can be
Jubelle should be B tier, his no cooldown provoke provides decent control, he's tanky and has self atb gain.
Mantura above kro..? Kro is too low compared to some S tiers.
Kro is fantastic in dungeons but that's about it. Dungeon God, but you're not really taking him into other content over other units.
Mantura is also fantastic in dungeons, Guild Content, ToA, arena, and RTA. He really shines everywhere if you build him well and pair him with the right units.
@@angelitabecerra to me it’s how good he is in almost ever PvE aspect that should make him S tier. I saw some in there that aren’t used like light cat, sure she is a good unit but to put her above Kro just feels wrong
can you do an every nat4 tier list as well? things changed
Can we get a nat 5 review update
I wanted a updated ld nat 4 tier list :3
Why are the drunken masters not supposed to be getting a 2A?
That's what I'd like to know. I'd kill for them to have a 2a.
Likely because they're all very solid as they are now would be my guess
Me encantaria que el 2do Awaken de los Bearmans y los Bounty
Hunter.
No light Penguin?
Thanks bagel
I thought light frank was supposed to be good?
Drogan is good in toa like he is slept on if you bring a good reviver just have them kill drogan revive him and repeat I beat allot of hard floors like the artamiel and
tricaru + dark drunkenmaster is gb12 spd. he is op
TIEN QIN MADE A RANK!!! \(^O^)/
I gotta get better runes on him, but he's a very fun unit.
thanks
Kro not being S tier is a literal crime
do you have inside information on the infernos or how do u know they get 2A?
plz do 4star too :D
update list?
hey body , i would appreciate if u help me in this problem which i had it only two days ago
my chat menu keep saying failed to connect to chatting server, what should i do ?
No 2nd awaken on drunken masters?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO they are the only 3* I have 6*d the entire family. They are so much fun.
Mara SSS tier!!
Eyy my linda
but why?
I have the dark elemental built
600+ LD scrolls, no shaman yet -.-
first ld on my account was shaman, ran straight to nb11 then nb12
Took me 7 years to get dark harpu.
@@ttibaramser1608 gz.. still waiting for one... on like 3 accounts -.-
Took me forever to get Gina. Finally got her weeks before she was 2a.
Literally played the game for 4 years and got a ld 5 before a meta 2a ld3 (got Jackson right after Sky Surfers were released so relatively new and not meta).
@@angelitabecerra Well, my only LD5 i got out of the wishes, Artamiel^^ like 6 years in, still no shaman and no jultan both pretty good 2a ld3^^
Jubelle is better than c but only in gvg/gvo
No Nats 5
I understand why you placed characters in buckets but it’s bad logic. Let’s use Riley as an example easy to get and ramp up no one uses Fran , with Lulu. So what is good unit does not matter if there is a better 3 star. Shamann is another example he is better than any 5 star in many areas . Be nicer if you said what is better and if those were not 5 stars then don’t bother building at this point
Onimushas ruined the meta, they're everywhere with such low rune requirements it's disgusting
Eshir wasn't on the list?
PLZZZ MEKE FOR 4* ld tooooo
for me light viking more better than bella 🤔 since it easy to build & skill up and his a.i always spam the 3rd skill if avaiable, but well it just for me of course
Like she heals and ruin the attack unit...
where is white taoist??
Awesome idea for a video....but by saying "This guy" or "This Girl".....those who listen as a podcast get screwed
Can't believe you put Shumar and Calicus on the same tier with as Shamar and Rumicus (who somehow made it out of just terrible)
Also Dona 2 tiers aboe Kuma ? The monster that sometimes gets used in raids and is pure garbage otherwise is 2 tiers above one of the only 3 3 stars with an 100% aoe def break ?
Ahman should be out of there, he's Perna tier of healing in cooldown time up labyrinth. While some healers have 4 turns cooldown on their aoe heals, he heals whole team for 80% of his tank hp in 4 turns, very good until late game.
Great video otherwise
Whos the aoe def break monster youre talking about? Also, whos Kuma?