If you go from a Non Performance Pack GT without the Strut Tower and Cowl braces, Beefier rear sway Bar, tuned suspension that they come with even without Magnaride, There's a huge Handling difference.. Even on the S550's too.. It's night and day different.. People think all a performance Pack gets you is a strut tower brace and there's so much more. 373 Torsen LSD more cooling n so on not that far off from the Mach truthfully. But the only way you would ever really feel it is to go from a base to a PP. And then you'll know.
Guy's, we're new to the mustang platform. We came from the scatpack challenger and we're really impressed with the mustang. It's great to have a car that is fast and handles great. We really loved our scatpack but grew tired of Dodge not improving on the platform and then wanting more money for the same car every year. Just drove the S650 across the Dragon and I don't understand why everyone is hating on this car. I didn't realize that you could flat foot shift this S650 though. Good job Ford
S650 is king. It’s an incredible car. You’re right too. Once you see one and if you can drive one, you will trade your s550 in. Well, I sold mine before my special order s650 arrived but yeah. I could not be happier.
So you paid more for a 2022 model Mustang Mach 1 which means the car deprecated more when you drove it off the lot versus a new S650 2024 Mustang GT. The 2024 S650 is a 2 year newer model Mustang than your 2022 Mach 1. Did you even think about that. Find out how much your Mach 1 is worth versus what you paid for it. I'm guessing your 2022 was new so you likely paid over $60,000 for it. You could have purchased a new 2024 S650 Dark Horse with s factory built 500 horsepower Gen 4 Coyote for the same price.
@@nissanbrown6144 you're an embarrassement to to Mustang owners. I'm ashamed to own the same car as you, I wish our Mustang community was more accomodating. If anything is gonna turn me off Mustangs, it's not the car, it's haters like you. I wish you'd find another community to spew it. Sincerely, an s550 owner
In love with mine. Took it on 226A here in WNC yesterday. Non PP but took everything the Diamond back had and laughed at it. Ford did well with the 24.
Not everybody wants more tech, from “AnalogGuy”! 😁 No doubt the S650 is a notch or two improved as compared to the S550. For now I have decided to hang onto my 2018 GT Premium, PP1. At some point I will order an S650 - I love Mustangs & I love V8, NA, front engine, rear wheel drive GT cars. Manual only for me! Note, my S550 has been a great car so far, 60,000 miles, no squeaks or rattles, no trans issues, no “typewriter tick” - Have used 5W-30 Full Synthetic from day one + oil change every 5,000 miles. Looking forward to your S650 adventure. Happy Motoring 🤠
Coming from a 2020 camaro LT1 The s650 feels pretty nice I really like it for daily use. The camaro felt more track ready and gobs of low end power. I miss that. But I do love the ride and design of the s650
I love the S650 but I’m not sure if I’m ready to get rid of my Mach 1 just yet . And not to mention they’re a little pricey and the interest rates aren’t great but definitely thinking about getting one , one day .I think I’ll hold onto my Mach for a little while longer though for now . 🇺🇸💪🏼🐎
@@kadinstrausnew gt with PP is better than the Mach, buuuuut the Mach def loooks better. New gt with magnaride,, also has the updated and faster version than the Mach.
Love the spec! I ordered mine at the end of August, almost the exact same spec as this. The only differences being mine will be equipped with magne-ride, grabber blue brembos, and the bronze appearance package. Can't wait to take delivery!
I know right, I saw a channel test the s550 and s650 with the same level of equipment and they weighed the same. People literally making their own stuff up to hate.
650 way better than the 550 inside/out! Critiquing from a distance and not actually owning 1 is where all the hate is coming from. Couldn't be any happier with my 650, don't miss the 550 at all
I have always loved Mustangs and its community. But I am sick of BS in this country for popularity. The S650 is NOT WAYYYYY better. Fake news. Stop the misinformation or kiss this country good bye.
The majority of people aren’t going to tune these cars…to me it’s not a deal breaker…I’ve become more interested in the S650, but interest rates is the biggest deterrent for me right now.
Yes. It's definitely worth it. The issues are the majority of complainers haven't even seen the S650 or obviously driven one, or they are Mustang haters. Mustang owners use to be like a family. That's obviously changed.
I’ll keep my gt350… maybe, when it dies, I’ll buy manual GT4 Porsche, I live around major curvy roads (tail of the dragon) so that type of driving is my cup of tea.
Carbon traps delete will send ford a snapshot due to CEL light, literally it phones home , there is a guy that literally broke down the entire owners manual
Hmm, Best Looking Mustang since '69-'70, Congratulations to the Designers. I am Enticed. I would appreciate an exact catalog of the Chassis and Suspension Improvements, your Underskirt video was a bit disorganized, but thanks for the presentation. Just Subscribed.
In Australia we get a fully loaded perf pack version as the base GT - with Magneride, black pack, appearance pack as the only options. Even taking into account exchange rates - i bought a 2020 GT, Magneride, auto, black pack new at the time for $68K - just priced up the same deal with the '24, $97K AUD lol wtf! Even funnier, the DH here is $130K on road, and here they only get 2KW more, and less torque. Good call, Ford.
Hey Brother. I just got the pricing done here too. I'm in WA, but ordered mine through Melbourne Dealership, as getting Mustang Motorsports to do a Steeda Q850 on my GT; however, I'm waiting for them to get the pricing for all the Steeda parts. Hope to have mine by next June/July. Did you order a new one for yourself?
I have a white GT premium in Tennessee also, I have the 6 speed and no active exhaust. I had nbot driven a hydraulic clutch car since the fox body's so had to relearn shifting the 24 is a lot different than my old 73 mach1. Getting used to not having a solid rear axle was a huge learning curve.
Sooooo....how many cars have you said "we're going to be keeping this car for a long time" 😉 In all seriousness...when they first revealed the S650, I liked it. Unfortunately, the more I see it I'm sticking with the plan of getting a 21-22 Mach! HP. I'm not a fan of all the data tracking that I'm hearing about in the 24s, so...if I ever by another outside of a S550, I'll probably go back to a 69 fastback and call it done. Looking forward to seeing this build, regardless.
great video! loving mine. it was supposed to be my weekend car (shared with my wife) and I have been driving it to work everyday with the excuse that I need to get it to 1000 miles. love your content!
I think it looks great in white although I have an appt with the dealer to test drive a black one this afternoon. If I have as much fun as you appear to be Im going to trade in my 2020 ST and buy the Mustang
I really cant knock the S650 until they're unlocked. I have a 2019 procharged S550 and Im waiting till Ford release the whipple and tune S650 before I make my decision
Nice review. I'll be stopping by the dealership to take a look, buy I'm just not ready to let go of my '2015 Limited 50 Year Anniversay Edition, #1872.
The only thing that is missing are the Tremec manuals... After the gen 1's with MT82's and all the issues people went through even with Gen 2's and 3's they are still sticking MT82's in them?? These cars deserve a way better gear box for sure.. I make do with the MT82 for weekend use but it's basically a good enough trans.. New clutch line, shifter and clutch and it can be made a lot better with Mod's but then you will lose the factory drivability if u go to crazy with the Mod's.. You will have Bad NVH which sucks too...
If you have a S550 it's not worth the Upgrade to the S650 unless you are a Content Creator or just have money to burn. Love my 2021 ShelbyGT500. Great Video Brother.
I love the new GT, waiting for the 0% interest rate, there are a ton of these on the market around me that have been sitting on the dealer lots for months. Ill pounce on one at that rate.
@@BitcoinTo100K cool story bro, those teslas have no character with their plain ass look and no sound. I’ll take a V8 over your shitty little EV any day lmao
Excellent video!!! Alex I appreciate your truthfulness and expert opinion!!! The car looks fantastic and I know after following you for 5 years that it is only going to get better!!!! Keep on Truckin Brother!!!! Cheers 👍💪😎❤️🇺🇸✝️
wells, i gotta get used to the s550 first but either way, with the extra hp/tq and the newly improved facelift, i'd day that an upgrade is well worth it...
Me too no one talks about it properly i had a 18 and it pissed me off alot 4 transmission failures because i actually drove the car so im scared if I’m gonna get hit with the same problems again
When your car was on the lift an you were finding a lot of improvements was that stock gt or what package was it because when you look at performance package it doesn't list the parts you named I guess what exactly is your car
Zander, so you got rid of your S550 which you modified already and bought the S650. Now, you are going to do the same with suspension, etc. again? If it is refined, why?
As the FN S550 PP with twin injectors bigger CC , more KW@335 and HP was much better than series 1 FM S550 , it will be very interesting how the second refresh of S650 stacks up when it comes out in 18-24 months time , as Ford always ups the HP, KW and engine tech in the second versions .We may end up with a 385KW GT 5.0 ?
Well, I'm kind of torn. I would rather have the Dark Horse, but I hate the way it looks. To be honest, I kind of wish there was a PP2 GT with the Tremec. Maybe that instead of the base Dark Horse. That would be the sweet spot.
Why don’t you tell everyone about the instrument cluster next to the start stop button? That thing is a POs. It’s all one piece and if you press one button the whole thing moves. It looks very rushed and cheap.
It is the reason I scratched a 2024 mustang off my list of potential next car,So I have a 2SS 1LE coming ,but I waited until Ford released theirs before I made a decision, If they don't change it I will never own one I guess Also as far as the statement in the video about people don't complain about BMW? I most certainly do ,I don't like any car that has these slapped in screens ,They shouldn't be and people shouldn't be so accepting, also it was never about seeing over it under it or in-between, its about a cheap looking after thought for me,I did see it in person and it just confirmed that I don't like the dash
@@frankie072 have you test drove or sat on the 2024 mustang? i promise you after driving one, you wont care about the controls under the ac vents. does it feel cheap, yea but who cares when the drives so great.
Ford never should have changed the manual transmission gearing in the 2015-2017's, the individual ratio's were perfect with 5th being 1:1. The 2018+ manual gearing is way too tall, especially 3rd, and 4th is now 1:1. It really neuters the additional power of the Gen 3 and Gen 4 Coyote. 🙄
Rear is horrible, the front fascia looks better on the S550, the interior is literally horrible. It just two iPads stuck to the dash. There’s literally know way function anything without the screens. The steering in the S550 actually gives more track feedback. I will definitely take single in take over the dual. Single is easier to tune. Personally I like the S550 basically all the way around. Bring on the S750. Until, i will keep my 2018 Premium, lowered, modded with exhaust, upgraded polymer bushings, swapped temperature control, and Supercharged Whipple tuned to only 675 wheel horsepower. Kept the tune subtle. Hopefully the S750 shakes up the pony world. Be the way Ford, Dodge will be showing us the new Hemi very soon!!!!
Still think the 2022/3 Mach 1 is the better car- all the track cooling goodies and the right 6 speed option. If you could get the tremec in the S650 GT then I could certainly entertain it. Too many horror stories about the MT82 and third gear. Just takes me back to the old T5 days.
@93ksj the point is the 2024 GT and the run out models of the Mach 1, at least here in my country, are the same price. The S650 GT price is enormous, making it a worse purchase in this case.
@@techforge-Nate I'm in Sydney Australia too. I looked at getting the Mach 1 and found 2 of them for sale, one was about $99,000 plus on road costs & the other was about $105,000 plus on road costs. Both had low K's on them, but for me they were too pricey for a second hand vehicle. I think that since they are scarce and there is a high demand for them, they are put the pricing up. You can pick up the new Dark Horse Mustang model in manual for $99,000 plus on road costs from the dealers I've been talking too and It out performs the Mach 1 on very UA-cam video from what i have seen so far ( NA for for NA ). I really love the S550 Mach 1 but I'm better off getting the Dark Horse at a similar price tag. Would love to know what you think and if you can find a cheaper deal on the Mach 1 though as it is a great car?
@@wadeayoub9799 99 plus Onroads is a sweet deal on the Darkhorse. I used Fords online config for the GT in Vapor Blue, with Recaros and Magnaride and it came out at 95K driveaway. Either Fords online config is full of s^&* or thats a stonking good deal on the Darkhorse. One thing to consider is the tyres. The DH got a big upgrade in the rubber compared to the Mach 1. Put the Mach 1 on the same rubber and its going to be very very very close.
I totally agree with @burke985! This dude and Stangchode can’t make it more obvious that they’re only in it for the clout. There’s nothing better about this car. If you want to mod it or go faster then the s550 is the way to go. Yes Roush and Whipple will tune them BUT will be EXTRA conservative because they are in it with Ford. People really don’t see this. It’s so annoying how these UA-camrs try to paint a pretty picture of the car.
I wouldn't call An 800 horsepower S650 Gen 4 Coyote extra conservative. Whipple and now Pro- Charger both showed their new S650 superchargers for the new Gen 4 Coyote at SEMA. You do know what SEMA is? Regarding As you call it. Being in it with Ford. Ford only has to build S650 Gen 4 Coyote to pass cafe regulations when the Mustangs built. . After it's sold. Using a Ford approved installer provides you with Ford's factory warranty. None of the Older S550 had that warranty option.
@@DWH300 and that you can get snitched on with the 650…..do some research bud. I wish I could tell you where I got my information man, but trust me….im not opening my mouth for no reason.
Well it seem that Ford fix the front suspension for once, it diffinitly handle drive better ok torque is lower from the 550. Are these tire the Continental contact or the Pzero Nero 4 season. I look good in white.💪👍🇨🇦😎
I love the new s650 but the price jump is ridiculous, $60,000 to $80,000 for a dark horse? I’d buy a used ZL1 Camaro first. Even the base premium is overpriced
Bro idk why people have to lie it’s not better in every single way it’s slower uglier and interior is hideous stop lying. It rats you out to the government soon as you tamper with emission devices. Shoulda kept your last one this one is not an upgrade. Not to mention can’t tune it so it’s moot point and no they are not close
Anyone that actually buys the s650 will say it's better. But your right it's slower than the s550 Gen 3 stock for stock. I backed out of the S650 I ordered. ended up getting a mach 1. Tremec. Bill Calamore rebuilds MT 82 . He said the MT82 is the exact same as the s550. So it's no better than before. I spent more money on my mach than I would have on the GT I ordered.
@downhilldaddy5282 better hurry up. If you want a new one. If you don't car about a used one. You have time. They are dropping in price right now. In a year or 2 they will.go back up. Mach 1 will hold their value better in the long run compared to a GT. Just right now since the s650 came out. They dropped a little bit in value
I will keep my 2022 and have Hellion twins and sleeved 5.2 RPG block. I don’t see the value in these S650s after seeing one in person wasn’t impressed at all. Paying 10k more for less is crazy. Even my 22 reports back to ford when I tune it and do anything. Stupid annoying I can only imagine what these cars do. Ford will be voiding peoples warranty’s left and right.
I just cannot get past the rear on how it’s bent like that. The previous 12 inch digital dash is still king. A huge tablet plopped on the dash just looks out of place. If Ford recessed the big screens inside the dash, now that would have been the move. Then the other models with the gap between screens, so out of place. Keeping my procharged Oxford white 2020 GT. My wife thought I was going to sell my GT for a 2024 but I don’t see this as an upgrade.
The 650 is not any better than the 550. My son his a 550 2016 California Special GT it's white with stripes full skirts all around and it looks better than your white GT.
Its 100% worth it, I owned a S550 a few years ago and this is for sure an improvement. Acceleration is better, handling is better, the tech is better and I like the look and design better too. People just need to go check it out in person and stop letting people on the internet decide for them.
Lets put this to sleep, drag them! Already content out there. Mustang GT S550 10speed vs Mustang S650 GT 10speed. Guess who wins? Darkhorse 10speed vs Mach1 10speed, guess who wins? Drop 60, 70, 80, even 90k on a car and it is slower than a 2020 Mustang GT? No way. Tell the truth!!!
The spirit of the Mustang is gone. Gone is the “twin cowl” instrument panel, the toggle switches and the analog-appearing interior. Worse yet, it looks like Ford hired a Camaro designer to tweak some exterior designs. And dropping the AC vents down low vs the last generation is not as effective in hot weather like we have in the south. Thank goodness I bought my ‘23 Mach 1 - the last of the great ones.
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If you go from a Non Performance Pack GT without the Strut Tower and Cowl braces, Beefier rear sway Bar, tuned suspension that they come with even without Magnaride, There's a huge Handling difference.. Even on the S550's too.. It's night and day different.. People think all a performance Pack gets you is a strut tower brace and there's so much more. 373 Torsen LSD more cooling n so on not that far off from the Mach truthfully. But the only way you would ever really feel it is to go from a base to a PP. And then you'll know.
I personally think that the Mach 1 is the best modern 5.0 car.
Guy's, we're new to the mustang platform. We came from the scatpack challenger and we're really impressed with the mustang. It's great to have a car that is fast and handles great. We really loved our scatpack but grew tired of Dodge not improving on the platform and then wanting more money for the same car every year. Just drove the S650 across the Dragon and I don't understand why everyone is hating on this car. I didn't realize that you could flat foot shift this S650 though. Good job Ford
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S650 is king. It’s an incredible car. You’re right too. Once you see one and if you can drive one, you will trade your s550 in. Well, I sold mine before my special order s650 arrived but yeah. I could not be happier.
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Wipe your nose off, its brown.
Mach1 is the way to go.
Exactly i have a 2022 mach 1 10speed auto
So you paid more for a 2022 model Mustang Mach 1 which means the car deprecated more when you drove it off the lot versus a new S650 2024 Mustang GT. The 2024 S650 is a 2 year newer model Mustang than your 2022 Mach 1. Did you even think about that. Find out how much your Mach 1 is worth versus what you paid for it. I'm guessing your 2022 was new so you likely paid over $60,000 for it. You could have purchased a new 2024 S650 Dark Horse with s factory built 500 horsepower Gen 4 Coyote for the same price.
@@DWH300 man hush the 2024 mustang is garbage and its camaro
@@DWH300 I would never buy a new car any more. Its just a waste of money.
@@nissanbrown6144 you're an embarrassement to to Mustang owners. I'm ashamed to own the same car as you, I wish our Mustang community was more accomodating. If anything is gonna turn me off Mustangs, it's not the car, it's haters like you. I wish you'd find another community to spew it. Sincerely, an s550 owner
In love with mine. Took it on 226A here in WNC yesterday. Non PP but took everything the Diamond back had and laughed at it. Ford did well with the 24.
Not everybody wants more tech, from “AnalogGuy”! 😁 No doubt the S650 is a notch or two improved as compared to the S550. For now I have decided to hang onto my 2018 GT Premium, PP1. At some point I will order an S650 - I love Mustangs & I love V8, NA, front engine, rear wheel drive GT cars. Manual only for me! Note, my S550 has been a great car so far, 60,000 miles, no squeaks or rattles, no trans issues, no “typewriter tick” - Have used 5W-30 Full Synthetic from day one + oil change every 5,000 miles. Looking forward to your S650 adventure. Happy Motoring 🤠
Coming from a 2020 camaro LT1
The s650 feels pretty nice I really like it for daily use. The camaro felt more track ready and gobs of low end power. I miss that. But I do love the ride and design of the s650
If you have the opportunity. Test drive a handling package Dark Horse. It's more of a track ready Mustang.
@DWH300 I'd love to but I haven't seen any dealers have one yet. And I haven't seen any on the street either
Nothing like Rowing your own gears ⚙️ manual transmission that's awesome I'm glad they beefed up the mt82.
I love the S650 but I’m not sure if I’m ready to get rid of my Mach 1 just yet . And not to mention they’re a little pricey and the interest rates aren’t great but definitely thinking about getting one , one day .I think I’ll hold onto my Mach for a little while longer though for now . 🇺🇸💪🏼🐎
broooo i want a mach one so baddddd, i have to settle for the gt tho
@@kadinstrausnew gt with PP is better than the Mach, buuuuut the Mach def loooks better. New gt with magnaride,, also has the updated and faster version than the Mach.
Love the spec! I ordered mine at the end of August, almost the exact same spec as this. The only differences being mine will be equipped with magne-ride, grabber blue brembos, and the bronze appearance package. Can't wait to take delivery!
You will love it
@@Zander13Productions I know it!
It was worth it for me. Had two s550s and I love what they've done with the new car. Oh, and it essentially weighs the same.
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I know right, I saw a channel test the s550 and s650 with the same level of equipment and they weighed the same. People literally making their own stuff up to hate.
How can 3850 and 4100 be the same
@@jesseray7616 Check your numbers, that's how.
650 way better than the 550 inside/out! Critiquing from a distance and not actually owning 1 is where all the hate is coming from. Couldn't be any happier with my 650, don't miss the 550 at all
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@@Zander13Productions 4sho! Got Ox white as well w/nite pckg. Awesome content tuned in!
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I have always loved Mustangs and its community. But I am sick of BS in this country for popularity. The S650 is NOT WAYYYYY better. Fake news. Stop the misinformation or kiss this country good bye.
@@motiv8d111 I own 1 sir, I've owned both just my opinion I respect urs. Do u own 1 just curious
The majority of people aren’t going to tune these cars…to me it’s not a deal breaker…I’ve become more interested in the S650, but interest rates is the biggest deterrent for me right now.
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Yes. It's definitely worth it. The issues are the majority of complainers haven't even seen the S650 or obviously driven one, or they are Mustang haters. Mustang owners use to be like a family. That's obviously changed.
I’ll keep my gt350… maybe, when it dies, I’ll buy manual GT4 Porsche, I live around major curvy roads (tail of the dragon) so that type of driving is my cup of tea.
Carbon traps delete will send ford a snapshot due to CEL light, literally it phones home , there is a guy that literally broke down the entire owners manual
I have no CEL light. Plus the carbon traps are located post MAF. Meaning they are NOT measured by the PCM.
Makes me want to get rid of my 23 gt. That I just put a ess g3 on love The videos .car looks great, man!
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Hmm, Best Looking Mustang since '69-'70, Congratulations to the Designers. I am Enticed. I would appreciate an exact catalog of the Chassis and Suspension Improvements, your Underskirt video was a bit disorganized, but thanks for the presentation. Just Subscribed.
Gonna 😂 live with this car for a long time 🤣, that's a good one Zander hahaha.😊
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In Australia we get a fully loaded perf pack version as the base GT - with Magneride, black pack, appearance pack as the only options. Even taking into account exchange rates - i bought a 2020 GT, Magneride, auto, black pack new at the time for $68K - just priced up the same deal with the '24, $97K AUD lol wtf! Even funnier, the DH here is $130K on road, and here they only get 2KW more, and less torque. Good call, Ford.
Hey Brother. I just got the pricing done here too. I'm in WA, but ordered mine through Melbourne Dealership, as getting Mustang Motorsports to do a Steeda Q850 on my GT; however, I'm waiting for them to get the pricing for all the Steeda parts. Hope to have mine by next June/July. Did you order a new one for yourself?
@CBRCommando I did initially, but cancelled the order. Going to do what I did last time, I'll find a low KM 2023, and whack a blower on it.
My plan is to build my s550 fbo, then get a s650 and go with a procharger kit, that way i can keep both
Do I think it’s worth it ? YES I do !!!! We love our 2024 Mustangs . They are definitely different than the S550 .
You missed the s197 when mentioning the lineup. I also noticed that the setup of the battery/fuse tray is very GM like.
I have a white GT premium in Tennessee also, I have the 6 speed and no active exhaust. I had nbot driven a hydraulic clutch car since the fox body's so had to relearn shifting the 24 is a lot different than my old 73 mach1. Getting used to not having a solid rear axle was a huge learning curve.
Sooooo....how many cars have you said "we're going to be keeping this car for a long time" 😉
In all seriousness...when they first revealed the S650, I liked it. Unfortunately, the more I see it I'm sticking with the plan of getting a 21-22 Mach! HP. I'm not a fan of all the data tracking that I'm hearing about in the 24s, so...if I ever by another outside of a S550, I'll probably go back to a 69 fastback and call it done.
Looking forward to seeing this build, regardless.
All of them 😂
@@Zander13Productions Quick question, honestly.....24GT or 6spd Mach1?
Love the headlights, hate the grill. Love the stock wheels, hate the stock brakes… There’s a lot of give and take mixed bag about the S650
Does the front reminds anyone of a Honda Accord?
Looks more like a Mach 1 than an accord 🤔
Nope
I’m digging the new 24. When are the tints coming?
Soon
Fun car, I have the 2024 GT premium. Great sounding engine and it pulls hard
great video! loving mine. it was supposed to be my weekend car (shared with my wife) and I have been driving it to work everyday with the excuse that I need to get it to 1000 miles. love your content!
I think it looks great in white although I have an appt with the dealer to test drive a black one this afternoon. If I have as much fun as you appear to be Im going to trade in my 2020 ST and buy the Mustang
I really cant knock the S650 until they're unlocked. I have a 2019 procharged S550 and Im waiting till Ford release the whipple and tune S650 before I make my decision
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I still prefer your S550. This one does look ok....but not the same. Keep up the content.
Nice review. I'll be stopping by the dealership to take a look, buy I'm just not ready to let go of my '2015 Limited 50 Year Anniversay Edition, #1872.
The only thing that is missing are the Tremec manuals... After the gen 1's with MT82's and all the issues people went through even with Gen 2's and 3's they are still sticking MT82's in them?? These cars deserve a way better gear box for sure.. I make do with the MT82 for weekend use but it's basically a good enough trans.. New clutch line, shifter and clutch and it can be made a lot better with Mod's but then you will lose the factory drivability if u go to crazy with the Mod's.. You will have Bad NVH which sucks too...
If you have a S550 it's not worth the Upgrade to the S650 unless you are a Content Creator or just have money to burn. Love my 2021 ShelbyGT500. Great Video Brother.
100% the TRUTH!
I love the new GT, waiting for the 0% interest rate, there are a ton of these on the market around me that have been sitting on the dealer lots for months. Ill pounce on one at that rate.
No, it's not worth the price at that HP/TQ level.
what car is delivering over 480 HP under 50k? The base GT is 42k with no options.
@@derrongeeA Tesla lmao I will gap you with 3 passengers
@@BitcoinTo100K cool story bro, those teslas have no character with their plain ass look and no sound. I’ll take a V8 over your shitty little EV any day lmao
Excellent video!!! Alex I appreciate your truthfulness and expert opinion!!! The car looks fantastic and I know after following you for 5 years that it is only going to get better!!!! Keep on Truckin Brother!!!!
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Zander never told us he had a racetrack in his own backyard. 😉
Badass car bro was driving like a NASCAR driver 😂🎉
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Congrats on the new car sir.
Thank you
Love stangs since 1969. And still especially the one you have. Beautiful car.
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You do a good job brother quality videos
Thank you
Just curious how it compares to your Mach 1 that you had
I like it better
wells, i gotta get used to the s550 first but either way, with the extra hp/tq and the newly improved facelift, i'd day that an upgrade is well worth it...
I am so afraid to buy one with MT82 cause of the reputation that transmission has
I’ve never had a problem with the mt82. 2018 was a bad year for them but they quickly fixed any issues
Me too no one talks about it properly i had a 18 and it pissed me off alot 4 transmission failures because i actually drove the car so im scared if I’m gonna get hit with the same problems again
When your car was on the lift an you were finding a lot of improvements was that stock gt or what package was it because when you look at performance package it doesn't list the parts you named I guess what exactly is your car
Zander, so you got rid of your S550 which you modified already and bought the S650. Now, you are going to do the same with suspension, etc. again? If it is refined, why?
I bet you miss your Mach 1
Of course he does
Nope
As the FN S550 PP with twin injectors bigger CC , more KW@335 and HP was much better than series 1 FM S550 , it will be very interesting how the second refresh of S650 stacks up when it comes out in 18-24 months time , as Ford always ups the HP, KW and engine tech in the second versions .We may end up with a 385KW GT 5.0 ?
Well, I'm kind of torn. I would rather have the Dark Horse, but I hate the way it looks. To be honest, I kind of wish there was a PP2 GT with the Tremec. Maybe that instead of the base Dark Horse. That would be the sweet spot.
No, s650 is a 100% snich car, that literally reports everything back to ford, read the owners manual word for word, it tells you
So wish Ford would move away from B&O sound system and move to Bose, assuming GM doesn't have them locked down
I agree but the new BO is pretty good
Bose….the “boom and sizzle” !
Is the exhaust stock?
Yes
The new body style is growing on me …
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Would a Tremic manual option improve the GT?
Yes
Why do you like this better then your mach 1 ?
Lots of modern Tech
Why don’t you tell everyone about the instrument cluster next to the start stop button? That thing is a POs. It’s all one piece and if you press one button the whole thing moves. It looks very rushed and cheap.
It is the reason I scratched a 2024 mustang off my list of potential next car,So I have a 2SS 1LE coming ,but I waited until Ford released theirs before I made a decision, If they don't change it I will never own one I guess
Also as far as the statement in the video about people don't complain about BMW? I most certainly do ,I don't like any car that has these slapped in screens ,They shouldn't be and people shouldn't be so accepting, also it was never about seeing over it under it or in-between, its about a cheap looking after thought for me,I did see it in person and it just confirmed that I don't like the dash
@@frankie072 Well you’re paying over 15k more for the Camaro too. That’s still no excuse for that being so cheesy.
@@matthewdiaz6478How am I paying 15k more? The msrp on my car is $57,430
@@frankie072 have you test drove or sat on the 2024 mustang? i promise you after driving one, you wont care about the controls under the ac vents. does it feel cheap, yea but who cares when the drives so great.
@@derrongeeYes I have its not for me
Ford never should have changed the manual transmission gearing in the 2015-2017's, the individual ratio's were perfect with 5th being 1:1. The 2018+ manual gearing is way too tall, especially 3rd, and 4th is now 1:1. It really neuters the additional power of the Gen 3 and Gen 4 Coyote. 🙄
What wheels are those?
Rear is horrible, the front fascia looks better on the S550, the interior is literally horrible. It just two iPads stuck to the dash. There’s literally know way function anything without the screens. The steering in the S550 actually gives more track feedback. I will definitely take single in take over the dual. Single is easier to tune. Personally I like the S550 basically all the way around. Bring on the S750. Until, i will keep my 2018 Premium, lowered, modded with exhaust, upgraded polymer bushings, swapped temperature control, and Supercharged Whipple tuned to only 675 wheel horsepower. Kept the tune subtle. Hopefully the S750 shakes up the pony world. Be the way Ford, Dodge will be showing us the new Hemi very soon!!!!
Still think the 2022/3 Mach 1 is the better car- all the track cooling goodies and the right 6 speed option. If you could get the tremec in the S650 GT then I could certainly entertain it. Too many horror stories about the MT82 and third gear. Just takes me back to the old T5 days.
It’s supposed to be better than a GT, that’s the whole point of the Mach 1, to bridge the gap between GT and the Shelby models
@93ksj the point is the 2024 GT and the run out models of the Mach 1, at least here in my country, are the same price. The S650 GT price is enormous, making it a worse purchase in this case.
@@techforge-Nate I'm in Sydney Australia too. I looked at getting the Mach 1 and found 2 of them for sale, one was about $99,000 plus on road costs & the other was about $105,000 plus on road costs. Both had low K's on them, but for me they were too pricey for a second hand vehicle. I think that since they are scarce and there is a high demand for them, they are put the pricing up. You can pick up the new Dark Horse Mustang model in manual for $99,000 plus on road costs from the dealers I've been talking too and It out performs the Mach 1 on very UA-cam video from what i have seen so far ( NA for for NA ). I really love the S550 Mach 1 but I'm better off getting the Dark Horse at a similar price tag. Would love to know what you think and if you can find a cheaper deal on the Mach 1 though as it is a great car?
@@wadeayoub9799 99 plus Onroads is a sweet deal on the Darkhorse. I used Fords online config for the GT in Vapor Blue, with Recaros and Magnaride and it came out at 95K driveaway. Either Fords online config is full of s^&* or thats a stonking good deal on the Darkhorse. One thing to consider is the tyres. The DH got a big upgrade in the rubber compared to the Mach 1. Put the Mach 1 on the same rubber and its going to be very very very close.
Its a DUD and a Snitch. Not tunable and too $$$ might as well buy a Plaid EV 😬
It sounds way throatier than the s550 stock for stock.
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Thats what she said.
S650 is bad ass all the haters can stay with their old 5.0. S650 Looks like a suited up monster 🥷
I totally agree with @burke985! This dude and Stangchode can’t make it more obvious that they’re only in it for the clout. There’s nothing better about this car. If you want to mod it or go faster then the s550 is the way to go. Yes Roush and Whipple will tune them BUT will be EXTRA conservative because they are in it with Ford. People really don’t see this. It’s so annoying how these UA-camrs try to paint a pretty picture of the car.
Absolutely false. I could care less about chasing clout. What I say is my honest opinion.
I wouldn't call An 800 horsepower S650 Gen 4 Coyote extra conservative. Whipple and now Pro- Charger both showed their new S650 superchargers for the new Gen 4 Coyote at SEMA. You do know what SEMA is? Regarding As you call it. Being in it with Ford. Ford only has to build S650 Gen 4 Coyote to pass cafe regulations when the Mustangs built. . After it's sold. Using a Ford approved installer provides you with Ford's factory warranty. None of the Older S550 had that warranty option.
@@DWH300 and you do know you can make more hp with the previous gen right?
@@DWH300 and that you can get snitched on with the 650…..do some research bud. I wish I could tell you where I got my information man, but trust me….im not opening my mouth for no reason.
Well it seem that Ford fix the front suspension for once, it diffinitly handle drive better ok torque is lower from the 550. Are these tire the Continental contact or the Pzero Nero 4 season. I look good in white.💪👍🇨🇦😎
I love the new s650 but the price jump is ridiculous, $60,000 to $80,000 for a dark horse? I’d buy a used ZL1 Camaro first. Even the base premium is overpriced
Bro idk why people have to lie it’s not better in every single way it’s slower uglier and interior is hideous stop lying. It rats you out to the government soon as you tamper with emission devices. Shoulda kept your last one this one is not an upgrade. Not to mention can’t tune it so it’s moot point and no they are not close
💯 finally someone speaking facts!
Anyone that actually buys the s650 will say it's better. But your right it's slower than the s550 Gen 3 stock for stock. I backed out of the S650 I ordered. ended up getting a mach 1. Tremec. Bill Calamore rebuilds MT 82 . He said the MT82 is the exact same as the s550. So it's no better than before. I spent more money on my mach than I would have on the GT I ordered.
@@rldeppe1 Mach 1s are beautiful great buy
@@rldeppe1 right on! That’s what I want. Hopefully soon I can get my hands on one
@downhilldaddy5282 better hurry up. If you want a new one. If you don't car about a used one. You have time. They are dropping in price right now. In a year or 2 they will.go back up. Mach 1 will hold their value better in the long run compared to a GT. Just right now since the s650 came out. They dropped a little bit in value
I will keep my 2022 and have Hellion twins and sleeved 5.2 RPG block. I don’t see the value in these S650s after seeing one in person wasn’t impressed at all. Paying 10k more for less is crazy. Even my 22 reports back to ford when I tune it and do anything. Stupid annoying I can only imagine what these cars do. Ford will be voiding peoples warranty’s left and right.
I just cannot get past the rear on how it’s bent like that. The previous 12 inch digital dash is still king. A huge tablet plopped on the dash just looks out of place. If Ford recessed the big screens inside the dash, now that would have been the move. Then the other models with the gap between screens, so out of place. Keeping my procharged Oxford white 2020 GT. My wife thought I was going to sell my GT for a 2024 but I don’t see this as an upgrade.
Beauty
The answer is no. The car is way too similar to a 550. If you need a new car or mustang. Yes it’s worth it. It’s a reskinned 550.
Ok
The 650 is not any better than the 550. My son his a 550 2016 California Special GT it's white with stripes full skirts all around and it looks better than your white GT.
Well congrats to your son
Its 100% worth it, I owned a S550 a few years ago and this is for sure an improvement. Acceleration is better, handling is better, the tech is better and I like the look and design better too. People just need to go check it out in person and stop letting people on the internet decide for them.
Bullshit lil, I’ve looked at it in person and it’s just as ugly as the vids and pics
Internet will always be filled with trolls expressing their opinions as if they were facts. Not true car guys to begin with
100%
Lets put this to sleep, drag them! Already content out there. Mustang GT S550 10speed vs Mustang S650 GT 10speed. Guess who wins? Darkhorse 10speed vs Mach1 10speed, guess who wins? Drop 60, 70, 80, even 90k on a car and it is slower than a 2020 Mustang GT? No way. Tell the truth!!!
"all new" its the same chasis my guy
Fox body and sn95 had same chassis too. But they were definitely different cars
The spirit of the Mustang is gone. Gone is the “twin cowl” instrument panel, the toggle switches and the analog-appearing interior. Worse yet, it looks like Ford hired a Camaro designer to tweak some exterior designs. And dropping the AC vents down low vs the last generation is not as effective in hot weather like we have in the south. Thank goodness I bought my ‘23 Mach 1 - the last of the great ones.
Not a fan 😢
Oh look a Mustero...dash sux !
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it's so beautiful omg
Lol.. dash isn’t better….what are you saying dude..? It looks stupid. Ford engineer that designed the dash should be fired.