Wow ok power suppy is always step one. I do not like going behind other techs, but some times i was hired to go behind all the techs in the company and the messes i would find was unreal. I have mad respect for you. thank you for reminding me how its done.
I will never understand why hoshiaki has the reputation it does when they're a pain to work on, a pain to PM, and every unit I've seen has constant issues.
When you start worrying about time, you are slipping up. You just charge for it. Not doing preventive maintenance has consequences. You run through a cycle following the sequence of op and watching the dumps, purging the sump, etc.
Jumper man new subscriber here, hvac did a little bit of walk in coolers and freezers, but never got into ice machines, i love your process of elimination and common sense, using your hands and eyes and ears to troubleshoot is something newer techs dont apply now days. Best detailed video and looking forward to learn from you, yes after 20 years ,love this trade, thanks so much for the effort and keep them coming
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sheesh! That was some show! I get those idiosyncracies all the time. Right now working on a Hosh where I can't get the power to go on after someone tinkered with the caps also. Good detective work with the meter JMT! Thanks for sharing! I wish I coulda seen how you wired the caps. I am thinking about the CB being replaced bc nothing comes on with the one I'm working on Thanks!
What threw that person off is that the water pump was coming on but the compressor wasn’t assumed the compressor or compressor components were bad . Guess what all HOSHIZAKI water pumps are 115v not 208/230v that’s the purpose of having a NEUTRAL at the incoming voltage 😁😬. Good fix JMT 😃
Man that was some great troubleshooting. Can't wait till i get nice with the meter like that. This video may have stepped my game up. With those baffles, the worker take them out so they can get ice out faster. Not knowing they are costing the company money. I usually pop out the inspection window to drill them in from the inside. The baffle is thick guage so you make your holes outside then install it and put the screws in the plastic.
The piece in the front you’re referring to is called the “snout”. The units over the bin are called head units and the remote condensers are outside/on the roof
Float switch controls beginning of harvest. Freezer timer max is 45-60 depending on what unit came set for from factory. These units are 45 minutes. 8/10 3 beeps is a lack of water from dirty filters or dirty machine or plugged water filters. 1/10 times low on charge and 1/10 bad water inlet valve or clogged inlet valve not letting enough water into sump. These units have a factory set 1 minute fill time so if sumo isn’t at least 3/4 the way full after 1 minute check water inlet valve. If compressor starts before 1 minute and sump hasn’t filed all the way it’s your float switch
In a situation like that where you can’t get to the compressor wires and you have to check potential relay -what terminal you check on the potential relay to check for power to compressor?
I have a 6 year old Km-201bah that I maintain well. Sometimes it'll beep once and sometimes 3 times, so I reset it and it'll work for several days. I had it checked out and everything checked out okay. He said it could be a relay on the control board. It's in my garage and has been doing this for a little over a year. Could it be air circulation in my garage? Would putting a small portable air conditioner or dehumidifier close to it make a difference or replace the control board?
So one leg of 208 volts wasnt passing thru the two pole switch? If so how was small gauge jumper able to carry the power across the bad switch without overheating?
run and start should equal the common. Draw a circle and 3 dots to represent the comp terminals. write the ohms between each pin and the number Opp is the resistance for each winding, common should be the sum of run and start windings.
Why were you getting 120 to ground for each of the wires on the load side of the switch if you had a missing leg? That’s were I get kind of needing more understanding.
Just... insane here. When a business does not properly repair the device but 'hodgepodges' it together like this, I would advise the person employing me to fix it to contact the previous company and get on their case about it, giving them the proper video documentation so they can seek legal help.
Ice machines are the most complicated systems most of find in commercial refrigeration. Lots of rabbit holes to go down. Each manufactures has their own proprietary systems then all the different manufactures. Customers don't appreciate what we have to know.
Partstown is my go to! over 3000 machines, how we supposed to know 'em all. Then, the customers says, Parts? we need to buy (expensive) parts? go figure!
Bro any suggestions to why a maintvoc ice machine stops making ice… it automatically turns off then we have to manually switch it back on to “making ice” then it turns back to off mode… any solutions?? Much appreciated
I wonder if the last guy left the switch like that because he found there was no 208 and he probably told them to get a electrician to replace the switch
I had a customer who was an engineer. He would attempt to repair himself then call me. I would have to put everything back together just so I could start diagnosing. Told him he was costing multipul hours on each call from me.
I own a KM-201BAH, which is a great machine, but it's too small and need to upgrade. I need a machine and a storage bin that will hold between 300-400 pounds of ice. I know Hoshizaki has a stainless steel evaporator, but what quality machine would you reccomend that will last and is easy to maintain? I use it for my mobile hot dog trailer business. Thanks.
if i had a wiring schematic in front of me I wouldn't be saying redundant things like "where does this go to?" "ima use this side as reference" "hopefully it doesn't blow up" to me it seems like you need way more experience on these units.
Never assume that you have a good voltage... I had been troubleshooting machines, with welds fails.... and it was not correct voltage at the transformers or income... if yoy have a machine with 24DC, 24AC and 220V or 400V please check all the voltaje and fuses... the easy part first!!
@@sherwinalvarez7365 crazy it gets by any inspection, cant imagine installine it there either. no amount of money could get me to do this work in that place
If you ain't testing your guessing
That’s what my boss tells his guys all the time!! Guessing can cost time and money, and maybe your life is it involves electrical
Facts!
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The satisfaction after completing a breakdown, next level 💯❤️👏🏼
Wow ok power suppy is always step one. I do not like going behind other techs, but some times i was hired to go behind all the techs in the company and the messes i would find was unreal. I have mad respect for you. thank you for reminding me how its done.
Interesting outcome. You're correct, ice machines can be tedious especially if haven't worked on them.
It was. Thank you! They definitely are. Stay tuned for new videos every week🔧⚡️
I will never understand why hoshiaki has the reputation it does when they're a pain to work on, a pain to PM, and every unit I've seen has constant issues.
When you start worrying about time, you are slipping up. You just charge for it. Not doing preventive maintenance has consequences. You run through a cycle following the sequence of op and watching the dumps, purging the sump, etc.
That's the one things that gets me is time, and you're so right.
Some people want a life instead of more overtime money that the federal government steals anyway.
Jumper man new subscriber here, hvac did a little bit of walk in coolers and freezers, but never got into ice machines, i love your process of elimination and common sense, using your hands and eyes and ears to troubleshoot is something newer techs dont apply now days. Best detailed video and looking forward to learn from you, yes after 20 years ,love this trade, thanks so much for the effort and keep them coming
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I like how you gave your time on how to find the troubleshoot of that ice machine it was time consuming
Great job. It’s all about the troubleshooting!
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that was a good one. just goes to show you, dont jump to conclusions when troubleshooting
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Awesome repair video. James, you are very knowledgeable. I learned a lot. Love your commentary!
sheesh! That was some show! I get those idiosyncracies all the time. Right now working on a Hosh where I can't get the power to go on after someone tinkered with the caps also. Good detective work with the meter JMT! Thanks for sharing! I wish I coulda seen how you wired the caps. I am thinking about the CB being replaced bc nothing comes on with the one I'm working on Thanks!
What threw that person off is that the water pump was coming on but the compressor wasn’t assumed the compressor or compressor components were bad . Guess what all HOSHIZAKI water pumps are 115v not 208/230v that’s the purpose of having a NEUTRAL at the incoming voltage 😁😬. Good fix JMT 😃
the video title says hoshizaki ice machine but the thumbnail picture is a manitowoc machine 😂
Diabolical
I think it's very cool analysis for the diagnosis of the problem. I learn a lot!
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Man that was some great troubleshooting. Can't wait till i get nice with the meter like that. This video may have stepped my game up.
With those baffles, the worker take them out so they can get ice out faster. Not knowing they are costing the company money. I usually pop out the inspection window to drill them in from the inside. The baffle is thick guage so you make your holes outside then install it and put the screws in the plastic.
im thoroughly impressed..well done
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The piece in the front you’re referring to is called the “snout”. The units over the bin are called head units and the remote condensers are outside/on the roof
Float switch controls beginning of harvest. Freezer timer max is 45-60 depending on what unit came set for from factory. These units are 45 minutes. 8/10 3 beeps is a lack of water from dirty filters or dirty machine or plugged water filters. 1/10 times low on charge and 1/10 bad water inlet valve or clogged inlet valve not letting enough water into sump. These units have a factory set 1 minute fill time so if sumo isn’t at least 3/4 the way full after 1 minute check water inlet valve. If compressor starts before 1 minute and sump hasn’t filed all the way it’s your float switch
Dump valve seal also gets dirty sometimes which allows a little bit of water to leak out the drain
this guy doesn't fully know what he is doing.
Wow , at least you found the problem, great job 👍
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Good job Jumper, Make sure you wire the switch properly.
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Great video, keep fighting the good fight!
Going to show this one to my students.
Awesome troubleshooting. Keep up the the amazing videos!
When I was in QA we coined the term at our company "If it's not testable it's detestable".
In a situation like that where you can’t get to the compressor wires and you have to check potential relay -what terminal you check on the potential relay to check for power to compressor?
I have a 6 year old Km-201bah that I maintain well. Sometimes it'll beep once and sometimes 3 times, so I reset it and it'll work for several days. I had it checked out and everything checked out okay. He said it could be a relay on the control board. It's in my garage and has been doing this for a little over a year. Could it be air circulation in my garage? Would putting a small portable air conditioner or dehumidifier close to it make a difference or replace the control board?
So one leg of 208 volts wasnt passing thru the two pole switch? If so how was small gauge jumper able to carry the power across the bad switch without overheating?
run and start should equal the common. Draw a circle and 3 dots to represent the comp terminals. write the ohms between each pin and the number Opp is the resistance for each winding, common should be the sum of run and start windings.
“At the end of the day, they know who’s the man around here!”
Hahahaha hell yeah! Let me know what time it is!!!
Thats why you're the Jumper Man!! They came in handy..
Saw it immediately. No caps.
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Somebody took capacitors to replace them and never returned.
Ice machines are a plumbing fixture that uses refrigeration like water coolers.
Why were you getting 120 to ground for each of the wires on the load side of the switch if you had a missing leg? That’s were I get kind of needing more understanding.
Just... insane here. When a business does not properly repair the device but 'hodgepodges' it together like this, I would advise the person employing me to fix it to contact the previous company and get on their case about it, giving them the proper video documentation so they can seek legal help.
Good job done- excellent work
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Ice machines are the most complicated systems most of find in commercial refrigeration. Lots of rabbit holes to go down. Each manufactures has their own proprietary systems then all the different manufactures. Customers don't appreciate what we have to know.
Partstown is my go to! over 3000 machines, how we supposed to know 'em all. Then, the customers says, Parts? we need to buy (expensive) parts? go figure!
You are the boss! great job.
Nicely done! 👍 great work!
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Your channel covering all the systems i need 😂 good job bro 👏
Would recommend making a platform to stand on so you're not standing on the wet floor and possibly getting shocked really bad otherwise great video
Great video thanks 🙏 you great information 😊
Always comes down to training down voltage , the things you find 😂
Appreciate the video definitely learned a lot on this
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Bro any suggestions to why a maintvoc ice machine stops making ice… it automatically turns off then we have to manually switch it back on to “making ice” then it turns back to off mode… any solutions?? Much appreciated
Great video, they should have informed u on the disconnected wires.
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Wouldn’t you check for for proper voltage to begin with ? Would of saved some time .
How long the cycle for ice?
Good Job!
Min 18:49 : the 208 was expected across which terminal?
I wonder if the last guy left the switch like that because he found there was no 208 and he probably told them to get a electrician to replace the switch
Awesome bro
Thank you!
Rate for previously attempted repair: 10 X
id0906a-261 harvest sequence when does water go over evap right away when turned on?
Great Video. Good Job. Nice Work. Thank you for sharing. Is that 3 phase switch ?
No there are only two power legs
Your really good Bro!!!
Troubleshooting 101. When you're lucky enough to have a duplicate system, you have gold.
Awesome video man.
❄️💪👍🇺🇸 JMT aka MacGyver to the rescue great troubleshooting
They don't want to pay for perfection. Try to save couple of bucks. Guess what it just cost them more money.
Great video!!!!!
Super Tech!!!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Good work 😎
I had a customer who was an engineer. He would attempt to repair himself then call me. I would have to put everything back together just so I could start diagnosing. Told him he was costing multipul hours on each call from me.
Привет какой мультиметр посоветуешь?
Spot on
Didn't say if you fixed the water leak issue
I own a KM-201BAH, which is a great machine, but it's too small and need to upgrade. I need a machine and a storage bin that will hold between 300-400 pounds of ice. I know Hoshizaki has a stainless steel evaporator, but what quality machine would you reccomend that will last and is easy to maintain? I use it for my mobile hot dog trailer business. Thanks.
Building maintenance just cost them money that didn’t need to be spent, maybe in time but not at this money….😅
To me it looks like you did everything correctly 😂
10:04 Mission accomplished
Nice troubleshooting
A bad two pole switch, unbelievable!
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I remember when I worked for ice company they would disconnect it if they didn’t pay the lease for the machines 😂
Gotta pull the label marker and label the switch with the breaker panel and unit 1 or 2 lol
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This guy is a BAD ASSSSSS
if i had a wiring schematic in front of me I wouldn't be saying redundant things like "where does this go to?" "ima use this side as reference" "hopefully it doesn't blow up" to me it seems like you need way more experience on these units.
Your missing the contactor
Never assume that you have a good voltage... I had been troubleshooting machines, with welds fails.... and it was not correct voltage at the transformers or income... if yoy have a machine with 24DC, 24AC and 220V or 400V please check all the voltaje and fuses... the easy part first!!
All of that and you repaired their switch. you went the extra mile there.
👍👍👍
I hate working behind someone, now they have to pay
Hmmmm simple leave it to the professionals jmt in the super tech
Two add up to the one.
Dude, you are tough.
Tattoo says: "Жизнь или умереть" (RUS) = "Life or to die"
They need a deep cleaning to
Why do people mess with stuff they dont know anything about,geez
wow what a nightmare
But.. why they having other people touch stuff?? 🤣
😂😂😂 to think I’ve seen it all
if i saw a space that small id just tell em no
Thats how it is in NYC.
@@sherwinalvarez7365 crazy it gets by any inspection, cant imagine installine it there either. no amount of money could get me to do this work in that place
the ole...bad switch...
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Complain once and move on. No reason to keep complaining.