I'm glad you already got this grinder and posted a video. That was quick! I have one now in my collection of manual grinders and really like it for pretty much the reasons you mentioned. The combination of build quality, features and price is unmatched. It's not without faults though. The external grind size adjustment ring lacks an indicator for which "round" it's at (unlike for example Kingrinder K4/K6). It's not too hard to figure out, with round 1 and settings 6 to 7 suitable for espresso, and round 2 and settings 8 to 10 suitable for pourover. The grip is not covered with rubber or silicone. It's bare metal with a pattern of slots that provide enough traction but is not very comfortable to hold. On the plus side, there's no grip to become loose, unlike with Kingrinder grinders and some other manual grinders like the 1Zpresso JX Pro (where the grip becomes very loose after a while). The handle of the R3 looks nice, but it's more difficult to attach and remove compared to other manual grinders, and doesn't sit as flush. I'm not sure I would recommend it over the Kingrinder K6. The R3 looks nicer, has sieves (which provide questionable usefulness) and a really nice magnetic catch cup. The K6 is easier to hold and requires less effort to grind, though it's probably slower. You probably can't go wrong with either grinder.
Since Kingrinder inner bearings rust in a very short time (only a few months with low RDT) yes, you can go wrong by going for it. I must say that I used a K6 for several months and was very happy with it, but once the problem arose it had no solution.
Agree with you here especially with regards to the handle. I put a small drop of oil on the metal that connects the grinder and the handle and this helped a lot.
Thank you for the video, Tom! I suggest taking a look at the Mavo Phantox Pro hand grinder. I've replaced my Kingrinder K4 with it for daily use, and it offers some intriguing burr geometry!
Hello and thank you for your video. I have been using the R3 for the past three months and I am very satisfied with it. I haven't used it for espresso because I prefer using an electric grinder with flat burrs for that. I use it exclusively for filter coffee (drip bag method), and the R3 also handles grinding for Turkish cezve quite well (especially light roast and sometimes medium) However, grinding 7-9 grams of coffee for cezve takes more than 2-3 minutes, but the result is very decent. In my opinion, the grinder is perfect for the filter brewing method, helping to reveal the aroma of the beans very well. Thanks to its design and burrs, the grinding process is actually quite simple and doesn't require much effort, unlike the Comandante C40 mk4 or 1Zpresso J-Max, which I almost don't use anymore and plan to sell.
Hi. Please share what differences do you find in the taste of grinding for Turkish coffee (dzhezva) from the Comandante C40 and the Bomber R3? Does the C40 have any advantages? I am grateful in advance!
@@thesupermegagood Greetings! Differences from C40 and R3 is not significant, both grinders may do some good results with almost similar taste profiles, but I'm prefer bomber's profile more. last two month I'm completely shifted to the my personal "dzhezva" end-gamer by my opinion, this is Kinu M47 (Phoenix in my case). And my current setup: Kinu M47, Soy C1 and C2, stand from the stainless steel from "specialty beans" and Rekrow micro burner + handcrafted wooden spoon. If you really like this method it should be the base for everyone.
@@MetalUAEHeartz Thank you so much for your reply! I was going to improve my Turkish coffee (the main one for me for the last few months) by changing R3 to C40. I am very grateful to you for your opinion and it seems that I should consider Kinu, not C40. Initially, I bought R3 just for dzhezva and in my opinion coffee with P3 turns out quite good, but of course I want "even better" )
@@MetalUAEHeartz We all have different tastes and of course different equipment settings, but I was lucky enough to compare R3 and C40 on the same coffee and on the same jezve and the difference to my taste was dramatic and definitely not in favor of P3. Just an opinion). All I have to do is find an M47 for comparison and I can safely part with the money, for my preferences the R3 definitely needs to be replaced 🙂
Hi Tom, just wanted to comment on the MHW branding. Being Chinese myself and following them on many platforms. I can confirm MHW stands for Make Heart Warm, it even spells this out on some of their products like a cup & saucer set I have from them. I have a lot of their items and I agree it is a great option, especially for their pricing. I would have to say, 1Zpresso grinders are definitely a class above MHW items, especially at 1Z's comparitive pricing in China. 1Z grinders get a 30% ish mark up overseas, kind of pushing them away from that value proposition. Myself, I owned a Jmax, currently own a J-ultra, a Q air heptagonal and a Q2 pentagonal, they are all extraordinarily well built, and the burr designs are great. I would recommend you to try out one of their external adjusted grinders to compare with teh R3 here. That being said, my daily electric grinder is a femobook A5, which is from what I've heard heavily associated with 1Z, even having a motorised version of the 1Z ZP6 burrs. And the grind quality I get from the A5 is absolutely extraordinary. I feel like 1Z as a company is very fixated on optimising burrs and grinding, whereas MHW makes their buck by making side acessories, rather than being a specialist in equipment. (Their sonic 7 lever is subpar from what I understand).
Hi there! Thanks so much for your thoughtful comment. From 1Zpresso, I've only ever tried the Jx-Pro, which was fine, but not my favorite from an ergonomic standpoint. Also, on the model I used, the band was already quite loose. I will have to try out another in the future. That Femobook looks quite similar in function to the Flair Power Tower - 2 parts (1 for the motor, and essentially the other is the handheld grinder). Would you agree with that? Anyhow, thanks for your comment! Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner The Femobook is an interesting grinder in a few ways: It has really high torque and eats light roast espresso beans for breakfast. Absolutely no stalling for that purpose. He version have has 53mm burrs which is really big considering how compact the grinder it self is. You can really tell this thing was built with a vision in mind which is executed very well. my biggest concern with the power tower is that it is just a motorising unit without really that much else to give. I can say even though the A5 looks like a hand grinder motorised, it feels alot more optimised as an electric grinder compared to the power tower. I think this is especially if you factor in potentially stripping the axle by a ill fitting installation. With the femobook, thats not an issue. Also on the topic of motorisation, i personally think the powertower is very overpriced for what it is... I have seen way better (home made/niche options) for about half its price. Happy to send you in those directions if you're interested.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner The ones I am aware of are mostly sold in mainland China. One is called the aikamo hand grinder conversion. Its sold for about 3 times the price in China on aliexpress, but it has magnetic funnel attachment plus variable Rpm. another niche option is sold exclusively on 闲鱼, a Chinese shopping platform and is called the Hone conversion. this one looks very premium with leather trims and everytning and sells for only about 150 USD... Im unsure how to send you links to these products though beyond this.
This was a live video, so I couldn't cut it. If you want, you can try editing my next video, to see how it performs without such cuts. I try to remove the gaps in thought, to compress the video, because YT strongly considers view duration. The longer the video, the less people watch, and the less it gets shown to people. Write me at tomscoffeecorner@gmail.com if you want to try your hand at editing one video.
Missed the livestream, but hello from Ontario, Canada! Thanks for your initiative in getting the R3 and doing a review! I've been on the fence about getting this. I had a Turin H40 that I sold after I got my DF54 and have been missing the clarity that I got from the Turin. Just need to decided between the R3 and the Kingrinder K6. If you do do a full review, I'd encourage you to use it for pourover, which the burr geometry seems more tailored towards that.
Yes, I will do some more pour over with it...I don't know that it's going to beat the K6 though. Somehow I find the flat burr grinders do a bit better for me for pour over than these small conicals.
Hey @TomsCoffeeCorner ! Just wanted to follow up because I've had some time to test out my R3. While conical, I find it's more clarity-focused than the DF54. The particle distribution at pourover settings is visibly more uniform, and it's better at bringing out the acidity and brightness in lighter roasts that the DF54. OTOH, I've found it more difficult to dial in for espresso than the DF54. I've gotten some good tasting shots once dialed, but they're not as textured as what I get from the DF54 (which is my preference for espresso). Thanks again for reviewing this. Your review was the tipping point for me to get the R3, and I'm super pleased with it!
Watching from NY, NY. Having an affordable option for hand grinders is always great. I have one from 1zpresso, but knowing how the industry is progressing is always entertaining. Thank you for this unboxing and demonstration.
Thanks for this review. I didn't really find anything about this grinder when I saw it on AliExpress last week as I was shopping for nicer grinder. There is a really good sale on there now and I ended up getting the Timemore S3 for $83 shipped. Also, where is your accent from? Are you based in the U.S. Tom?
I have a Wisconsin accent. I don't know about the S3, but having the Chestnut Nano kind of turned me off of Timemore grinders for a while. I know lots of people like them though.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Wisconsin!?? Land of Cheddah!! LOL Interesting...I would've SWORN that was a European accent. My S3 came today and I ground some beans through it for my morning pour over and it's very nice. A definite upgrade from my first ever hand grinder, the Timemore C3s. The S3 is not really suited for espresso, which is fine for me as I don't brew espresso. But it can handle everything else with ease. If you could get them to send you a sample unit I think that would make an interesting video for your channel. Cheers!
First of all, I want to thank you for the wonderful video, but I have a question. I would like to know the difference between this grinder and the Time More x lite grinder for daily use in preparing espresso. Thank you.
Thanks for participating on this video live with me! Check prices and reviews of the R3 on Amazon here: geni.us/MHW3R3 (Amazon affiliate link)
I'm watching from Wisconsin. You could freeze your unused shots, then blend them with a bit of milk when you need a frappe on a hot day.
Not a bad idea :)
Im also doing this 😂
I'm glad you already got this grinder and posted a video. That was quick! I have one now in my collection of manual grinders and really like it for pretty much the reasons you mentioned.
The combination of build quality, features and price is unmatched. It's not without faults though. The external grind size adjustment ring lacks an indicator for which "round" it's at (unlike for example Kingrinder K4/K6). It's not too hard to figure out, with round 1 and settings 6 to 7 suitable for espresso, and round 2 and settings 8 to 10 suitable for pourover.
The grip is not covered with rubber or silicone. It's bare metal with a pattern of slots that provide enough traction but is not very comfortable to hold. On the plus side, there's no grip to become loose, unlike with Kingrinder grinders and some other manual grinders like the 1Zpresso JX Pro (where the grip becomes very loose after a while).
The handle of the R3 looks nice, but it's more difficult to attach and remove compared to other manual grinders, and doesn't sit as flush.
I'm not sure I would recommend it over the Kingrinder K6. The R3 looks nicer, has sieves (which provide questionable usefulness) and a really nice magnetic catch cup. The K6 is easier to hold and requires less effort to grind, though it's probably slower. You probably can't go wrong with either grinder.
Since Kingrinder inner bearings rust in a very short time (only a few months with low RDT) yes, you can go wrong by going for it.
I must say that I used a K6 for several months and was very happy with it, but once the problem arose it had no solution.
Agree with you here especially with regards to the handle. I put a small drop of oil on the metal that connects the grinder and the handle and this helped a lot.
From Wisconsin. I'm not a hand grinder person but this was fascinating. I may reconsider one for travel. Love your channel.
Wisconsin, nice! Thanks for your feedback. Go Pack!
Thank you for the video, Tom! I suggest taking a look at the Mavo Phantox Pro hand grinder. I've replaced my Kingrinder K4 with it for daily use, and it offers some intriguing burr geometry!
Hello and thank you for your video. I have been using the R3 for the past three months and I am very satisfied with it. I haven't used it for espresso because I prefer using an electric grinder with flat burrs for that. I use it exclusively for filter coffee (drip bag method), and the R3 also handles grinding for Turkish cezve quite well (especially light roast and sometimes medium) However, grinding 7-9 grams of coffee for cezve takes more than 2-3 minutes, but the result is very decent. In my opinion, the grinder is perfect for the filter brewing method, helping to reveal the aroma of the beans very well. Thanks to its design and burrs, the grinding process is actually quite simple and doesn't require much effort, unlike the Comandante C40 mk4 or 1Zpresso J-Max, which I almost don't use anymore and plan to sell.
Hi. Please share what differences do you find in the taste of grinding for Turkish coffee (dzhezva) from the Comandante C40 and the Bomber R3? Does the C40 have any advantages?
I am grateful in advance!
@@thesupermegagood Greetings! Differences from C40 and R3 is not significant, both grinders may do some good results with almost similar taste profiles, but I'm prefer bomber's profile more. last two month I'm completely shifted to the my personal "dzhezva" end-gamer by my opinion, this is Kinu M47 (Phoenix in my case). And my current setup: Kinu M47, Soy C1 and C2, stand from the stainless steel from "specialty beans" and Rekrow micro burner + handcrafted wooden spoon. If you really like this method it should be the base for everyone.
@@MetalUAEHeartz Thank you so much for your reply! I was going to improve my Turkish coffee (the main one for me for the last few months) by changing R3 to C40. I am very grateful to you for your opinion and it seems that I should consider Kinu, not C40. Initially, I bought R3 just for dzhezva and in my opinion coffee with P3 turns out quite good, but of course I want "even better" )
@@MetalUAEHeartz We all have different tastes and of course different equipment settings, but I was lucky enough to compare R3 and C40 on the same coffee and on the same jezve and the difference to my taste was dramatic and definitely not in favor of P3. Just an opinion). All I have to do is find an M47 for comparison and I can safely part with the money, for my preferences the R3 definitely needs to be replaced 🙂
Excellent video, thank you very much!!! Greetings from Brazil
Funny coincidence, I ordered this grinder yesterday. Thanks for the livestream.
Hi Tom, just wanted to comment on the MHW branding. Being Chinese myself and following them on many platforms. I can confirm MHW stands for Make Heart Warm, it even spells this out on some of their products like a cup & saucer set I have from them. I have a lot of their items and I agree it is a great option, especially for their pricing.
I would have to say, 1Zpresso grinders are definitely a class above MHW items, especially at 1Z's comparitive pricing in China. 1Z grinders get a 30% ish mark up overseas, kind of pushing them away from that value proposition. Myself, I owned a Jmax, currently own a J-ultra, a Q air heptagonal and a Q2 pentagonal, they are all extraordinarily well built, and the burr designs are great. I would recommend you to try out one of their external adjusted grinders to compare with teh R3 here.
That being said, my daily electric grinder is a femobook A5, which is from what I've heard heavily associated with 1Z, even having a motorised version of the 1Z ZP6 burrs. And the grind quality I get from the A5 is absolutely extraordinary. I feel like 1Z as a company is very fixated on optimising burrs and grinding, whereas MHW makes their buck by making side acessories, rather than being a specialist in equipment. (Their sonic 7 lever is subpar from what I understand).
Hi there! Thanks so much for your thoughtful comment. From 1Zpresso, I've only ever tried the Jx-Pro, which was fine, but not my favorite from an ergonomic standpoint. Also, on the model I used, the band was already quite loose. I will have to try out another in the future. That Femobook looks quite similar in function to the Flair Power Tower - 2 parts (1 for the motor, and essentially the other is the handheld grinder). Would you agree with that? Anyhow, thanks for your comment! Tom
@@TomsCoffeeCorner The Femobook is an interesting grinder in a few ways:
It has really high torque and eats light roast espresso beans for breakfast. Absolutely no stalling for that purpose. He version have has 53mm burrs which is really big considering how compact the grinder it self is. You can really tell this thing was built with a vision in mind which is executed very well.
my biggest concern with the power tower is that it is just a motorising unit without really that much else to give. I can say even though the A5 looks like a hand grinder motorised, it feels alot more optimised as an electric grinder compared to the power tower. I think this is especially if you factor in potentially stripping the axle by a ill fitting installation. With the femobook, thats not an issue.
Also on the topic of motorisation, i personally think the powertower is very overpriced for what it is... I have seen way better (home made/niche options) for about half its price.
Happy to send you in those directions if you're interested.
@@PeachnotinMel Sure, I'd be curious to read up on those home made niche options for motorizing. Cheers, and thanks for your further input!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner
The ones I am aware of are mostly sold in mainland China. One is called the aikamo hand grinder conversion. Its sold for about 3 times the price in China on aliexpress, but it has magnetic funnel attachment plus variable Rpm.
another niche option is sold exclusively on 闲鱼, a Chinese shopping platform and is called the Hone conversion. this one looks very premium with leather trims and everytning and sells for only about 150 USD... Im unsure how to send you links to these products though beyond this.
I didn’t watch this live, but I’m watching from Lancaster, Ohio, USA.
Ohio, nice!
Best video ive found on the channel so far. Reason is not full of jumpcuts
This was a live video, so I couldn't cut it. If you want, you can try editing my next video, to see how it performs without such cuts. I try to remove the gaps in thought, to compress the video, because YT strongly considers view duration. The longer the video, the less people watch, and the less it gets shown to people. Write me at tomscoffeecorner@gmail.com if you want to try your hand at editing one video.
Missed the livestream, but hello from Ontario, Canada!
Thanks for your initiative in getting the R3 and doing a review! I've been on the fence about getting this. I had a Turin H40 that I sold after I got my DF54 and have been missing the clarity that I got from the Turin. Just need to decided between the R3 and the Kingrinder K6.
If you do do a full review, I'd encourage you to use it for pourover, which the burr geometry seems more tailored towards that.
Yes, I will do some more pour over with it...I don't know that it's going to beat the K6 though. Somehow I find the flat burr grinders do a bit better for me for pour over than these small conicals.
Hey @TomsCoffeeCorner ! Just wanted to follow up because I've had some time to test out my R3. While conical, I find it's more clarity-focused than the DF54. The particle distribution at pourover settings is visibly more uniform, and it's better at bringing out the acidity and brightness in lighter roasts that the DF54.
OTOH, I've found it more difficult to dial in for espresso than the DF54. I've gotten some good tasting shots once dialed, but they're not as textured as what I get from the DF54 (which is my preference for espresso).
Thanks again for reviewing this. Your review was the tipping point for me to get the R3, and I'm super pleased with it!
Watching from NY, NY. Having an affordable option for hand grinders is always great. I have one from 1zpresso, but knowing how the industry is progressing is always entertaining. Thank you for this unboxing and demonstration.
I bought some of their stuff, they are good, but I don't get the point what a bomber plane has to do with coffee and espresso???
Watching from Virginia Beach, Virginia. How about taking a Quick Look at the instructions for grind settings?
Thanks for the review!
Hi, from Denmark, live in Bali now.
He’s so wanted to lick that knife the second time 😂 English living in Spain
😅 Caught me! But I didn’t want to be a bad influence…
Cool demo
Thanks for this review. I didn't really find anything about this grinder when I saw it on AliExpress last week as I was shopping for nicer grinder. There is a really good sale on there now and I ended up getting the Timemore S3 for $83 shipped. Also, where is your accent from? Are you based in the U.S. Tom?
I have a Wisconsin accent. I don't know about the S3, but having the Chestnut Nano kind of turned me off of Timemore grinders for a while. I know lots of people like them though.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Wisconsin!?? Land of Cheddah!! LOL Interesting...I would've SWORN that was a European accent. My S3 came today and I ground some beans through it for my morning pour over and it's very nice. A definite upgrade from my first ever hand grinder, the Timemore C3s. The S3 is not really suited for espresso, which is fine for me as I don't brew espresso. But it can handle everything else with ease. If you could get them to send you a sample unit I think that would make an interesting video for your channel. Cheers!
@@winexprt Oh, I think I got the S3 confused with the C3S. Will have to keep that one in mind. Cheers, and Go Pack Go!
First of all, I want to thank you for the wonderful video, but I have a question. I would like to know the difference between this grinder and the Time More x lite grinder for daily use in preparing espresso. Thank you.
Sorry, I haven't tried that one yet!
Compare to kingrinder k4? Which better?
ooof i'm 2 days late. sending love from Indonesia.
Привет из Сибири! Огромное спасибо за обзор!
Nice video!
What's the cheapest electric grinder you would recommend?
I have a list in the video description. It kind of depends on your country...anyway, here's the list: kit.co/tomscoffeecorner/grinder-suggestions
From Liverpool England
Liverpool, nice!
Dubai UAE
RTFM
Iraq