Should you get a Grom Clone?
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- Опубліковано 13 кві 2020
- THIS IS MY 2019 TAO TAO HELLCAT, FIRST OFF I’D LIKE TO SAY THAT EVEN THOUGH I MENTIONED RIDING DURING THIS PANDEMIC. I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO STAY SAFE, AND HEALTHY . ABIDE BY YOUR STATE AND THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES WHEN IT COMES TO STAYING HOME. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ILLINOIS HAS A LOOSE STAY AT HOME ORDER IN PLACE. I MADE SURE WHILE RIDING I DID NOT CONGREGATE WITH SEVERAL PEOPLE. MY RIDE TIME WAS SHORT, AND I MADE SURE TO MAINTAIN A DISTANCE OF 6 FEET OR MORE WHEN NEEDED. STAY SAFE AND HEALTHY GUYS!
This is the first ever vlog for this Channel! Pretty stoked to have you guys join me as my channel grows. I tried keeping this as short as possible. My goal wasn’t to bore you, but rather give you some insight on these clones.
Parts mentioned:
Motorcycle complete exhaust with tip and baffle Fit for Honda Grom Msx125 2013-2018 (Full black) www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHMFXMD/...
WonVon 15000rpm Motorcycle Universal Colorful LCD Digital Speedometer Tachometer Odometer Speed Gauge Sensor www.amazon.com/dp/B07V2YC7HW/...
NIBBI Racing Performance Motorcycle Carburetor 26mm GY6 125CC Carburetor PE26mm With Carburetor Jets Fit YAMAHA KAWASAKI SUZUKI Apollo Dirt Bike Mini Bike SSR TTR KYMCO SYM TAOTAO GY6 Scooter Moped www.amazon.com/dp/B07GC4B257/...
NIBBI Motorcycle Air Filter High Performance Air Filter 48mm Dirt Bike Air Filter For HONDA YAMAHA SUZUKI ATV SSR TTR Dirt Bike Pit Bike Mini Bike GY6 AJS www.amazon.com/dp/B07KQZMVF3/...
NIBBI RACING PARTS Replacement Orginal High Performance Speed Modified Aluminum Air Intake Manifold Black Glue For GY6 Engine 125CC-150CC www.amazon.com/dp/B01MDUXULG/...
KE-KE 4pcs 24 LED Bulbs Sequential Turn Signal Lights Strobe Flashing Brake Lighting Tail Lights Daytime Running Lights for 12V Universal Motorcycle Motorbike (Style A) www.amazon.com/dp/B081Q2JHM8/...
LED Headlight Bulbs Headlight bulb H4 9003 Hi/Low All-in-One Conversion Kit Led headlights with COB Chips 8000 Lm 6500K Cool White Beam Bulbs IP68 Waterproof www.amazon.com/dp/B076MPF6BT/...
Mirrors
www.ebay.com/itm/132915349804
Racing CDi
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A friend has a clone and he has just as much fun as we do on our grom's, we could care less that he has a clone, we are just glad he is up and riding with us 👍👌.
That’s all that matters!
Can he keep up though
@@onememorialdrive6281 he keeps up just fine, as a matter of fact i just got home, we all went riding today, there were 8 of us that met up at 9:00am and it's 6:00 pm so we have been tearing it up and screwing around for about 9 hours, awesome day ! 👍🇺🇸.
One Memorial drive a Icebear maddog (ruckus clone) 150cc Can keep up too, I had one and got it up to 62mph lightly modified.
That’s what it’s all about
Great job. All the modifications are tasteful and sets it apart.
So sick I would love to have that as my own!
Thank you so much for making this video! I’m planning on buying a clone, and I’m super excited to modify it to these standards you have set! I am super excited to do similar modifications!
Absolutely great video! Saved in one of my Playlists. I just bought myself a grom clone. I love the mirrors and the speedo!
I just found out about these clones very recently and your cool ass bike just convinced me man. Thanks for sharing!
Miguel Chavez hey you bet man! No problem at all!
Love how he puts all his stuff for his bike in the Description keep it up 💪🏾
Ynt Drayco some! Most of those parts can’t be found which is unfortunate, especially the handlebars
DarkOwlMoto do you have any suggestions on how to turn my grom on it’s the same one as yours
@@srtc.drayco353 hope you ended up figuring it out.
@@NathanielSosaPhoto yea I did it’s actually long gone now lol
I really like those blinkers. The running front lights are beyond awesome.
Bro this shits like really well done stoked to see more content
Much love bro, thanks a ton!
Definitely thinking of going with the clone version for now low on gas but hopefully soon I'll be able to get me one love the the color red and black nice on the video 💯💯💯💯
perfect bike for us on budget even used japanese bikes are expensive btw ur bike looks fire 🤘
Super true! And thanks man!!
They can definitely be solid. I've owned and had great luck with a couple Chinese scooters.. put 7k miles on one before it was stolen then the one I replaced it with was still going strong when I sold it after ~10k miles. I paid
Liking what you got going on little bro. Good luck with the channel! Gotta like a dude who keeps his kids tight. (little toys)
You've done a great job on all these little upgrades bro!!
Thanks!
I know I’m late but you probably have the best clone bike on UA-cam 🔥✅and you just earned a new sub bro✌🏾
Hell yea bro thanks a bunch!! 🤙🏽
Looks great. Really like the exhaust system and tach
Thanks a ton man!
Ive had a grom before but if I was to get another it would be a clone. Speaking from a modding perspective you can buy a whole pit bike engine for pretty much the same cost as just a bigger grom cylinder. Anything for the grom is like +++ $$$ just because its a grom. Even basic consumables such as brake pads. When i wanted those I bought CBR 125 pads instead as they are the same but much lower cost.
Nice bike bro I was gonna get 1 like yours but end up getting a vader , I went though 3 different clutch brakes, n they didnt fit my vader but now that I saw ur vid I'm going to check out them clutch . Great vid thx
But man your bike is sick af! You really making me lean towards one haha
The bike looks so sick. I love the turn signals there next level sorry I’m gonna to copy on my bike LOL
You have impeccable taste ! Your bike is awesome.
Thank you! 🤙🏼
Looks good! Great Review
Sick Tao bro!!!
I'm suprised for that price it comes with gear indicators, tach, all the lights. To Me part of the value is the resale value as well as the fuel injection is pretty big. But I'm only learning on my pitbike how to work on These things.
The first set of mirrors switch side and let the hang down low.its way cool
I like those mirrors I'm gonna check for those in green. Also i talked to you before about the Nibbi and today I went ahead and ordered it because I got a fake Mikuni even though I paid for a genuine and they lied so I figured I won't have that issue with Nibbi so thanks
Yea lots of Mikuni fakes unfortunately. Nibbi is really nice. Best bang for your dollar.
I’m on the fence to getting one. My icebear maddog (Ruckus clone) just got stolen so looking to the next project lol. I’m so familiar with the GY6 engine now that i can swap parts easily & cheap.
It’s worth it! Fun little bikes. I may get another at some point.
If you get a chance do a review of the kp mini 150cc.
I have a hellcat myself and I just did a 25mm Mikuni carb and I’ve been looking for an exhaust but can never find anything so imma have to get this one
Check out the one I made!
Big fan now 🙌
Vann Wilder good to hear!
You the goat!!!!
Dang man I dont care if it’s a clone that’s one sexy bike
Good vid bro
Just subscribed
Thanks man! Much appreciated!
Man, your bike is beautiful. I'd love to have one of these clones and mod It like crazy but I'd have no idea how to do any of it. I suppose a cheap bike like this is probably a good place to start though
It’s SUPERA EASY to mod. I’d suggest checking out the clone groups on Facebook!
You sound like Deadpool lol.
Not gonna lie I can kinda see that going back and listening lol
Hey man, like the video. I got a tao tao myself, got it about three months ago and can't complain about it. Wish I would of had this video to go off of so I didn't have to search for mods. I actually still have the stock carb just re jetted it and make the intake better. It runs good, just don't know if its worth getting another carb. But keep the videos up from another Illinois resident.
J Saul thanks for the comment and feedback! I live my clone. I think they get too much hate. I’ve heard of rejetting the stock carb! And if it works for you that’s all that matters! I wanted more top end so I went with a bigger carb.
@@darkowlmoto they do get to much hate, I think as long as you have some basic knowledge of bikes for the money you can not beat these clones. I think I will end up going to a bigger carb just been spending that money on other mods for the time being, I do like the carb and manifold setup you have, I may have to buy it. With that intake manifold, have you had any issues of it staying on the carb?
J Saul I did on one occasion recently, that was due to the fact of it simply not being tight enough as well as me having the clamp farther away from the lip of the carb. So I just ended up moving the clamp to the very edge of the manifold. And tightened it down really good.
J saul where at in Illinois I own a 17 z125 would be down to ride also a Illinois resident! Winnebago county
Anything Motors Peoria Illinois!
These really aren't bad little bikes, for the price It's beats a Grom easy. There's a ton of upgrades for them, and I'm thinking about grabbing one if I can find one for a good price. I've ridden a few, and also my buddies decked out Grom, the Grom's faster, but it's also got about 3k of upgrades on it lol. Altho check tensions and torques if you get one tho, that's an issue these do have.
Truth loctite is your best friend.
Now did you have to get a new throttle cable for the nibbi carb. Had an issue installing my nibbi on his same bike. The stock cable seems to long..? Had slack in the throttle.
I did not. You can compensate by adjusting the throttle cable in 2 spots. I didn’t have a problem with the stock cable. I did replace only after my cable naturally wore out and from being cheap. Having said that. Cables are cheap on eBay! I bought one for $10usd and it was a 34”
Anyone know how to get a body kit for a Honda Grom clone 2021
Ur from illinois aswell we’ll have to ride together some time once I buy mine! Lol
About getting title and stuff, how was that experience with family go-karts, cuz I've seen the reviews but your review is helpful
Sorry for the late response! I don’t know why UA-cam only notifies me about SOME comments. But I did not have a problem what do ever! I just was as transparent with them as I could be and contacted them as often as needed to ensure everything was taken care of.
I have a Vader boom 125, just took off all the emissions stuff. Plugging the holes(3of them). The main jet in mine is a 78, I just put in an 82...am I just waisting my time with this carb, ( I’m still learning) it seems like I have a low end carb? Any thoughts?
It depends on how it performs. If you like how it performs then keep it! Also what are you trying to get out of it?
I owned a taotao hellcat and my brother great clone bikes a lot is interchangeable with the Honda grom the Vader bd125 is ok but we both upgraded to a real grom
Pros about a real grom are the EFI and the fact you get a company that will back up their product. You’re kinda screwed with the clones. But I 100% agree!
Hey need some help part number or any inf to buy the front handle bar red and the signal light
The signals were from Amazon/ebay. Just look up”led motorcycle turn signals universal” handlebars were a one off. Meaning it was a random buy from ebay that I cannot find anymore. Can look up “7/8 universal motorcycle or scooter handlebars red” and see what pops up.
Sorry for bugging with 3 comments now but last question really! On the Nibbi intake there's a gold valve, I was wondering if thats for the crankcase breather hose? And if it's ok to put it there or would it be putting hot dirty air into the carburetor? Thank you again
You’re good! If I remember correctly yes that is for the crankcase breather tube. And and it’s after the carb so I wouldn’t worry. If you’re talking about the brass nozzle ON the carb that’s for your fuel line. But I wouldn’t worry about hot dirty air going into the carb if you’re just talking about the nipple coming off the intake.
@@darkowlmotoperfect thank you. I'll try hooking up there if it fits insteuof getting a filter for the crankcase breather hose
Do you recommend this particular model to commute in city? Would you say it’s reliable? Thanks in advance.
Definitely! If you’re looking to just commute and cruise it’s perfect!! If you’re a more aggressive rider I’d look into other similar options. But over all it’s a great bike and worth it!!
Cool Vid! Just curious what you did to mount the license plate? Did you buy a fender delete kit or fab something up? Looking to get my own clone soon!
I just ended up cutting up the rear fender that came with it! Super easy mod to do!!
DarkOwlMoto cool man. Thanks for letting me know. Looking forward too more vids
Nice.
I seen ur from Illinois was the place you got the bike the warehouse in I wanna say the Tinley area and is there a group of folks in south Chicagoland that rides these or groms but are cool with clones
I got mine off-line at venommotorsportsusa.com
I wanted to buy that one I saw the Vader boom pretty much almost the same thing so look forward to see what upgrades on your I can do to mine thanks
king joker ya dig both are decent bikes! Everything I’ve done to this particular one is all listed in the description. I however miss this bike terribly as I sold it to someone who couldn’t take care of it which is a bummer.
@@darkowlmoto Why did you sell this guy? You seem to enjoy it!
@@firebolt100 it was! But I ended up getting a bigger bike then I sold that one because I bought a Veloster N performance package.
@@darkowlmoto Yeah I see, man. I'm lookin through all your videos and you go through vehicles like I go through ice cream! ...which is fast af cuz I'm a fat kid at heart. ;]
I just hope that you're getting at least a 90% return from every resale because all I see is dollar signs flying through them pockets! heheh
@@firebolt100 resale on these bikes being Chinese is non existent unless you sell on your own. Sad reality. Not bad bikes if you plan innkeepers them! I plan on getting another! They are cheap and parts are affordable. As far as dollar signs flying nah I just buy cheap.
where is the link to where you purchased the bike and any updates on the bike as in adding more mods?
I got my bike from familygokarts.com however I did sell the clone in which I talked about in more of my videos. I ended up picking up another larger “250” cc Chinese bike from venom motor sports. Sold that as well.
Your bike is bad ass
Got the same bike and having some trouble connecting the speedometer, any tips or tutorials?
It’s kind of a hit or miss. I just did a lot of work but piecing together anything I could find. It’s almost like a puzzle with no instructions. Best of luck!
What kind of bars do u have and where did you purchase them?
The bars I haven’t a clue the brand. They were originally from eBay. They no longer sell them unfortunately.
So how much do you have into the bike? And did you ever figure out the top speed? Or at least what speeds do you cruise at?
Top speed was 64mph for me, and only maybe under $400 in mods
A Grom clone just as a fun / and stunt bike sounds cool but as a daily I would prefer the real Honda Grom😅🤘
Oh yes most definitely. Grom can last up to 15,000 miles before you may have a problem, so after saying this you know the engine is built to last and making a daily driver is some decent work for an engine
Did you have to drill into the back footpeg bracket to mount the exhaust?
brandonludvik no I just removed the rear foot pegs since I didn’t use them. And when I got the exhaust I decide to use it as a mount. No drilling required.
Hey bro how many miles you put into it so far? And how long you think these bikes will last with proper maintenance? My friend just got one a few days ago it looks sick
I put about 4k miles on mine. They can lost a long while if maintained properly. However every one of these clones have their pros and cons.
Did you need resistors for turn signals? If so which ones thanks.
Peep18m nope not at all! Plug and play all the way!
How did you get cdi connect can’t seem to find where to do it? I ordered the one you have linked?
If you have a hellcat like i had its right underneath the seat on the right side fairing! Easy to spot!
do you know what Big Bore kit would fit that bike??
It’s a gy6 clone so I would start there. Look up ones that would fit a tao hellcat 125cc
U have the link for the bright white headlight kit?
Yep! I think I forgot to put that in the description. I’ll do that now.
Where could I find a list of the specific mods???
Syd Ramsey what I could find that were still available at the time are in the video description.
Did you spray paint the speedometer i only see black in the website
Yes it is spray painted red.
I have the Vader gen 2. Only thing I really dislike is the forks. Mine don't rebound at all I have to pull on the bars to bring them back up. And of course I need to upgrade carb. The Hellcat looks more like the Z125 pro to me but I like them
I always recommend the Nibbi set up. It really is the best bang for the buck. And I’d look into those fork seals. Could be crap. Depending on how long you’ve had it maybe call about getting them replaced. The should definitely rebound.
@@darkowlmoto I heard the nibbi doesn't plug n play? Like it's needs a plate or something? I like the nibbi because the idle adjustment screw looks great to use. I'm hoping changing fork oil will help. I only put 30 miles on it. It leans too far forward with the forks being compressed always
@@noncompliant209cali don’t need a special plate it’s just an intake piece that allows for the Nibbi to clamp on. It’s an actual hose. If you look in the video you’ll see
Did you ever figure out the fork issue?
@@commanderstud2417 I just upgraded to adjustable forks. Made a huge difference and looks better too. Minibikeaction has a video on them
What is the make and model of this bike? Didnt find it on the site mentioned.
It’s is a Tao Tao Hellcat
The other bike is a Boom Vader 125
I have one with a turbo ran too it
Can you comment the link for the sleek handlebars please?
Javier Gonzalez unfortunately I cannot, they were bought on eBay and I cant find them anywhere anymore
Could I get the link for the speedometer and mirrors?
Links are in the description
For the price of all those add ons/customizations you could have gotten a real Grom 😂..? Still dope tho. Although I do like the Groms, I’m kind of leaning towards a Benelli 135 TNT still undecided.
Actually not true if you add up all of the parts prices (mostly if not all off of eBay) it still comes way under for a grom. A lot of those parts were dirt cheap.
Hows the gearing on the bike? I bought mine today after having an auto similar to the ssr razkull. For starters the clutch gets engaged with the first gear. Boom click down first gear. My problem is that it does not go slightly to neutral in fact it doesn't engage at all. With some acceleration and wiggle from the clutch itself is when it finally engages neutral is that something you had trouble with ?
While the notorious neutral seems more prominent in these Chinese clones, I will say usually it depends on the adjustment of your clutch cable which can be done right at the clutch lever. Too much or too little slack can cause shifting to be a pain in the ass. But to answer your question in short No I didn’t have issues really. But again failed neutrals are a thing sometimes with these bikes. Me specifically I had no issues and if I did I just recommend adjusting the clutch cable correctly. Hope this helps!
@@darkowlmoto Tha KS a bunch man. I appreciate it my man 💪
@@darkowlmoto man, so I changed the shift pedal and bro the gears are buttery now. Amazing
@@Olivermanaged right on man!
hello, what are the handle bars called?
and can one get them?
Those ones you cannot purchase anymore
I held MODE and it changed 4 colors
The tao tao hellcat is actually a little bit taller than a grom. I watched a video that did a vs. Ive been thinking of getting one
Cass Ramsey yep! This is because they have a fixed non adjustable shock. At least mine did.
@@darkowlmoto I did not know that. Ive been really debating on getting one so thankyou for that and all the info you provided in your vid man. Btw your bike looks clean man.
Cass Ramsey thanks! Stay tuned here in a week a new bike will be here! Bigger is all I’ll say. Loads more content on the way!!
hey whats going on can you send link to clutch and brake levers
Motto Vloggster so those aren’t being sold anymore. But you can type in “universal brake and clutch levers” on amazon and or eBay and you’ll get several kinds! Hope this helps!
DarkOwlMoto gotcha yeah bought a few different ones the screw doesn't fit on the clutch lever but they do on the break one but thank u
Also is that speedo/ instrument cluster plug and play for a gromm and this Knockoff?
No it’s not plug and play you have to cut and solder wires. It can be a pain as the wiring diagrams are hit or miss and terrible.
@@darkowlmoto ish that's what I was afraid of. But great that it can be done.
Yo u also gotta link for that red foot shift lever!?
Those aren’t available anymore but you literally can find them everywhere on EBay!
@@darkowlmoto what size would I need brother
G Mtz23 for the price I’d recommend getting these, and this is because you get the whole upgraded set. Vs just the levers themselves for close to the same price. I wish I would have waited. www.ebay.com/itm/202468405162
Nice bike
Thanks a bunch! Just bought a new one. That one I sold
What dealer did you buy from, and how long did it take to show up?
I purchased one from Venommotorsportsusa.com and this one here from familygocarts.com both took about a week to get! Keep in mind times very now tbat they are a hot commodity. Some places are sold out.
Yeah I want one
Get one!!
@@darkowlmoto I really like the Benelli tnt 135
@@stickman7890 cannot go wrong with a benelli!
@@darkowlmoto i think I’m sold on it. Not many mods for it, but seems pretty decent setup already
i need those exact bars how did you find them
That’s a good question I cannot find them anywhere! They were on eBay!
How is the reliability?
I have a Chinese 125cc scooter for a while it’s been holding up pretty good I was debating on picking up one of these
Reliability is great! I just changed my oil often as well as checked it often. I rode mine pretty hard also.
@@darkowlmoto How often would you need to do an oil change?
@@Winningsince95 me personally I did it every 500 miles. Mainly because it's a cheap engine and two I only did this for the first few changes. Oil is sort of cheap depending on what brand you get too. I did this just to be on the cautionary side and make sure the engine lasts.
ending song credit?
Aaron S let me
Look!
Have you rode long distances what's your thoughts on it im considering buying one in the next month bike looks sick man
B Jay definitely have ridden long distances! If its properly maintained and oil is changed right when you receive it youll be set! Ive ridden for hours on end loads of times.
@@darkowlmoto what are you getting gas wise on the gallon and what are you averaging on speed and what oil are you using sorry for the questions
B Jay youre good! My average top speed was 64mph with the nibbi carb and sprocket upgrades as well as the performance CDI. I was running a 17/32 i believe on the hellcat in terms of sprockets. I used 93 octane fuel. And i also used amsoil 10w/40 motorcycle oil.
B Jay MPGs i couldnt say as i went up on my fuel jets since i ran a bigger carb.
Man thats a tuuuuffff
How did you get it so cheap….cheapest I can find is around 1500
When I bought mine it was because it was pre covid. Ever since then the prices have sky rocketed due to the very beginning of the pandemic. When that started people were buying them up like crazy. Also they are imported from China and now being that they are more tax laws and shipping times/prices upped the prices as well.
Can you stretch and lower these too!
Yes you can
I need wheel bearings for the back wheel for my clone I got a icebear 125cc
If you can take the bearing out and look at the spec usually printed on the outer rim look up those numbers and purchase whatever you’d like! I cannot remember what size they are.
DarkOwlMoto I got it taken care off I want to find a website I can order parts from and ahit.
macho valentin depending in parts i used amazon and ebay there is one big site but the shipping is RIDICULOUS! Ill have to find it and share with you
DarkOwlMoto thank you so much man. I apreciate you helping out and responding. Love the content btw. Inspired me and I actually got one because of your vid.
What’s the link for the handlebars?
The handlebars are no longer sold unfortunately
What's the top speed you have got on this bike?
jordan jones 64mph! With all of the listed mods.
Did you actually get this bike insured?
therealjaynyce yep!
I want one
Get one! Loads of newer options too.
I have the 2020 clone its white tho lol wanted the the red one lol only has 50 miles on it
Fun bikes for sure!! And cheap to modify.
where fo you find it? whats it called? make and model
How much did you spend on all those mods on total ??
Maybe a couple hundred?
I got the same dash is there a way you can tell me how to hook it up
Dee Brown youll want to cross reference wires from a vader or a hellcat via china riders forum with the wire diagram that came with your cluster!
DarkOwlMoto it didn’t come with one
Dee Brown follow me on IG and ill upload a photo
DarkOwlMoto ok just did
What is the top speed you can get up to?
I got mine up to 65mph
How’s the bike now after 2 years, still have it?
Sold it but it’s still rolling!
How can I get to the site to order one
Tongue can be found on
Familygocarta.com as well as venommotoraportsusa.com and many other websites. Keep in mind it is a GY6 engine all of the bikes will be the same engine usually but different names and looks. Can always go to google and type one “Grom Clone” and you’ll get several websites to choose from.
I know nothing about bikes 😔. How do you install a speedometer?
You’re going to have to cross reference with the stock speedometers wiring harness the best you can. A volt meter will help you out as well when it comes to finding current in certain wires. It’s a tedious process but it can be done. Also depending on what speedometer you buy it does come with a wiring diagram that can also help.
@@darkowlmoto Dang, thank you for that speedy reply!
Can you send a link for the bars you have on your bike ? Those are cool
Dee Brown the famous question everyone’s asking....lol sadly they aren’t being sold anymore. I got mine on eBay but they are hard to find anymore.
I got the dash you got but the colors don’t match up so I’m confused and stuck because of the different wires
DarkOwlMoto how do I hook the dash up because I ordered the same dash you have
Dee Brown you gotta cross reference some colors wont be the same but will have the same name when you look up the stock wiring diagram.
What do you think of the ice bear?
great bike! all very similar.
where did you buy yours?
Purchased mine from FamilyGoKarts.com I personally didn’t have any issues and customer service was very nice. If you order from them make sure you do everything in the emails and that’s required to ensure a smooth purchase/delivery