21st Century Jet - Building the Boeing 777 - Full Episode 2

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  • @IANinALTONA
    @IANinALTONA Рік тому +22

    As an Airbus guy, it hurts me to see how Boeing went downhill with the recent 737-max and 777-X fiascos. I really hope they find back to the engineering deiven spirit they displayed back when they developed the beast that is the 777.

  • @linesided
    @linesided 3 роки тому +48

    So many things age well. The relationship building, the management style (Alan Mulally is a visionary leader). Working together, coming together, keeping to a schedule are concepts that seem alien these days at Boeing. I bet Boeing wishes Mulally never left.

    • @CngDelta757
      @CngDelta757 Рік тому +8

      As an employee it’s true. I come back and watch this often as a reminder of the greatness we are, we just don’t wanna harness it.

    • @JAutry
      @JAutry Рік тому +8

      I bet Boeing regrets not promoting him in leadership and him leaving to Ford.

    • @206dp
      @206dp Рік тому +4

      We sure could use him these days

    • @John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge
      @John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@206dpNow more than ever

    • @henrivanbemmel
      @henrivanbemmel 10 днів тому

      Alan Mullally is one of those leaders I wish could live to be 200. Boeing's problems really began when they moved away from engineering management to know nothing MBAs. The company's strength had been innovation and suddenly management became bean counters. Money people only know how to cut. They don't know anything so they really can't innovate and as such should never be permitted to run anything. Boards of Directors must nevervforgetvthis! The BEST way to consistently improve stock prices is to have a successful company not manipulate the books for some short-term 'gain'.

  • @alfredbadasu7644
    @alfredbadasu7644 8 місяців тому +5

    Back when Boeing was more focused on safety and quality. They actually allowed a film crew to film the whole 777 manufacturing process. It's a shame that they now prioritize profits. Imagine Boeing allowing a film crew to follow them in 2024. It will never happen.

  • @topiasr628
    @topiasr628 3 роки тому +23

    To whomever did this series, you did incredible work. This is excellent 👌

  • @martingannon132
    @martingannon132 9 місяців тому +4

    I really admire the Japanese for being extremely disciplined and taking nothing for granted. I think Americans could learn a few things from from these dedicated human beings. And they are also very spiritual as well.

  • @CRGMONEY
    @CRGMONEY 4 роки тому +22

    i remember seeing this on PBS in 1996 when i was 10 years old. I'm 33 now and this brought back so many memories! Thank you for posting this!

    • @jasongonzalez2856
      @jasongonzalez2856 3 роки тому +1

      U are a git bro!I was 15 and 40 now lol!!!

    • @realityhitsmehardbro
      @realityhitsmehardbro Рік тому +1

      Yes, me too. Quality TV for a formative period of my life.
      You have a wife, you know.

  • @StratMatt777
    @StratMatt777 3 роки тому +23

    This is FANTASTIC! Thank you! I used to assemble 747-400 center wing sections and got to assemble a 777 wing one time in 1998 when the 747 line was on "slide" (it was paused so the 747 line could get caught up because they were going from 5 747s per month to 6 per month). My work area was not behind so I got "loaned out" to the 777 line for a couple days.
    "Drill and fill!"

    • @qalba3016
      @qalba3016 3 роки тому

      I didn’t know that 777 used Concord wings, how did they fit it on the Boeing,?

    • @StratMatt777
      @StratMatt777 3 роки тому +1

      @@qalba3016 Concorde wings? I don't understand what you mean.

    • @CngDelta757
      @CngDelta757 Рік тому

      An Incredible! I’m glad to hear fellow builders come to watch and listen in hopes our management could learn better!

  • @The_ZeroLine
    @The_ZeroLine 2 роки тому +16

    A lot of the software used in their integration process was mind blowingly advanced for 1992.

    • @GlutenEruption
      @GlutenEruption 9 місяців тому +3

      It took multiple supercomputers to run so I'd imagine it was! 😂

  • @ericwoodard8332
    @ericwoodard8332 4 дні тому

    Thank you to whomever had the insight to record these meetings, from the simplest thing to all the big things. I've enjoyed watching all of this.

  • @chaoszombie9995
    @chaoszombie9995 2 роки тому +11

    The Japanese are probably one of the best to get involved in the making of delicate parts.. they will ALWAYS take pride in what they do..

    • @JizzSock_
      @JizzSock_ 10 місяців тому

      They have so much pride that they go to even greater lengths to cover up mistakes.

  • @MonkeyFlyBoy
    @MonkeyFlyBoy Рік тому +5

    “I was cheesed of to blasers!” The Aussie engineer was incredible

  • @RoboTekno
    @RoboTekno 9 років тому +35

    22:37 Wow... That comment, LMAO! :-D
    "Now I know why you got to be a vice rep."

  • @MomentousGaming
    @MomentousGaming 7 років тому +27

    37:20 "We've got to be careful how we get the wing out" as hammers bash in the background!

  • @mxthunder2
    @mxthunder2 2 роки тому +4

    love this documentary so much!

  • @F14-talktomegoose
    @F14-talktomegoose 2 роки тому +4

    only in USA would you find an arrow or bullet lodged in an assembly being shipped by rail from one plant to another - so much for patriotism !

  • @scottirvine121
    @scottirvine121 5 років тому +22

    You gotta miss the over head projectors 😂

    • @hanspeterx
      @hanspeterx 3 роки тому +1

      5:44 do they mean rudder, or the VTP Vertical Tailplane

  • @F14-talktomegoose
    @F14-talktomegoose 2 роки тому +5

    to me its not just an amazing feat building an aircraft , but what about all the machines that were designed and built to allow for the build of the aircraft itself - also an engineering marvel

  • @Steta004
    @Steta004 10 років тому +8

    Rick Astley!? @ 35:21 what a legend!!,
    plus all of the people at Boeing!

  • @banquorebuechett9914
    @banquorebuechett9914 3 роки тому +5

    17:27 “It’s acceptable if Boeing says it’s acceptable”

    • @GlutenEruption
      @GlutenEruption 9 місяців тому

      @@JizzSock_ yes actually, the manufacturer specifies the tolerances, component life, allowable deviances, etc. When the customer discovers a potential issue, they call the company and the company's engineers tell them whether the part needs to be replaced of if it's an acceptable deviance in that specific part. That's how literally *everything* works. It's specifically because the engineers at Boeing aren't the ones deciding these issues anymore like they did here that makes it a problem.
      This was back when Boeing was led by engineers back before the merger. The original 777 was and still is one of the best and safest airplanes ever built. They were discussing microcracks on non load bearing components which was purely an aesthetic issue and from an engineering and technical perspective had absolutely no impact on safety. Any the decision they came to was to spend more money to build a better product.

  • @65gtotrips
    @65gtotrips 2 роки тому +2

    🇺🇸 I love it…@37:50 he’s saying we have to be careful with the tool jig and the wing…all the while the guy behind him is pounding with a 5lb hammer.

  • @jameson566
    @jameson566 3 роки тому +8

    Back when Boeing was great...

  • @iLoveBoysandBerries
    @iLoveBoysandBerries 3 роки тому +4

    Aluminum lithium is now commonly used on most new jets

  • @AMoose454
    @AMoose454 3 роки тому +4

    45:40
    Now you find ladders inside complete airplanes

  • @AaronCMounts
    @AaronCMounts 4 роки тому +10

    40:10 - "The first inch was the hardest." ...(that's what she said!)

  • @65gtotrips
    @65gtotrips 2 роки тому +2

    🇺🇸 @17:50…I don’t know if they discussed it back then, but can you imagine if a plane crashed for some other reason aside from the Aluminum Lithium Alloy and the news media found out that Boeing manufactured planes with cracks in a structure (intentional or not)…That’d be an almost insurmountable public relations nightmare. Not easy to convince the public otherwise even if it’s ok the cracks developed.

  • @Limskjordan
    @Limskjordan 4 місяці тому

    Ron Ostrowski "these things happen and we just got to recover from them".
    Easy for you to say, not being the one having to re-manufacture the rudder to a tighter schedule.

  • @crazedpilot1
    @crazedpilot1 Рік тому

    45:35 well it looks like that idea pretty much went out the window when it came time for the KC-46

  • @brianwong6195
    @brianwong6195 Рік тому

    47:40 "Money" lmao that's right! It's interesting to think that ASTA is now Boeing Australia so they would've been technically in-house years later.

  • @dadjdemitri
    @dadjdemitri 10 років тому +3

    Thanks so much for this!

  • @ChrisCokeRobinson
    @ChrisCokeRobinson 8 років тому +14

    Guys guys...i used to be pro boeing only too..but the truth is theyre both great companies airbus and boeing...with great planes. these two companies need each other so that they can constantly innovate

    • @JohnSmith-xs4fq
      @JohnSmith-xs4fq 7 років тому +2

      Christopher Coke Robinson that's what I say Boeing would be nothing without airbus because they wouldn't now what to do next same with airbus but some of both fans are annoying kids and don't understand i used to be like that but after I thought in it that way it changed my perspective of Boeing and after I went on the 777 I never hated Boeing

    • @ericbedenbaugh7085
      @ericbedenbaugh7085 6 років тому +1

      Agreed. Competition breeds quality and creativity.

  • @RaspySquares
    @RaspySquares 11 років тому +6

    27:18...i think that one guy over on the left is drunk...

  • @Jaxymann
    @Jaxymann 7 місяців тому

    "He left with satisfaction at how well the Japanese were building the plane parts...and concern about how long it would take before one day they would be building airplanes themselves..."
    Yeah, it's been 30 years and I think you don't have to worry about that anymore Big Guy xD

  • @o0prince
    @o0prince 9 років тому +16

    everything is better in the 90's

    • @juancflorentino
      @juancflorentino 7 років тому +1

      including docu

    • @marvin19966
      @marvin19966 7 років тому +4

      women weren't

    • @MrBahjatt
      @MrBahjatt 5 років тому

      Nostalgia for the 1990s; it felt like it was the future, and that the 2000s would be an incremental improvement.

    • @ndlben7129
      @ndlben7129 5 років тому +3

      "Démocratisation" of the internet in late 90's
      "Démocratisation of the cellular phone" with SMS
      early 90's in USA, late 90' in the world
      Emergence of the motion capture in movies
      -Armageddon (1998)
      -Star Wars ep1 (1999)
      -Matrix (1999)
      And
      -1st DVD players arrive in 1998
      And also
      Iconics series "Urgence" and "The X Files"
      (Many series copie them today)
      Many musical influences that continue today
      -Electro Pop
      -RAP
      -Electro/Dance/House (David Guetta today)...
      Emergence of the 3D game
      1st Sony Playstation 1995
      Nintendo 64. 1996
      Iconics game.
      1st Resident Evil (1996)
      1st Tomb Raider (1997)
      1st Crash Bandicoot (1997)
      1st Zelda 3D "Ocarina Of Time" (1998)
      1st Mario 3D "Super Mario 64"(1996)
      1st Mario Kart and Star Fox originally in 3D released in 1992-1993
      On 2D Super Nintendo console
      Industrie transport
      -B777 Enter In Service (EIS 1995)
      -A380 study (1997)
      -Tramway, subway and train "Boa system" study
      (Subway line 14 in Paris Boa and autonomous system. (EIS 1997)...
      Many Improvements in 2000's
      -1st Smartphones and internet emerge (SMS/MMS)
      -Birth of Google/Wire/Broadband
      (The world will accelerate and change dradistically from 2000)

    • @ndlben7129
      @ndlben7129 5 років тому +1

      @@marvin19966 lol yes!!!

  • @germangamer2976
    @germangamer2976 3 місяці тому

    THE MUSIC NEEDS TO BE LOUDER!!

  • @tomnordquist9209
    @tomnordquist9209 5 років тому +2

    Large companies often pressure small companies after major design changes. Asta should have told boeing: we built to your drawings, if the drawings change, that is your problem. The focus is safety, and this program adhered to it. The max proved different

  • @allandavis8201
    @allandavis8201 3 роки тому +1

    It strikes me that Boeing played the “penalty clause” card against ASTA, but it wasn’t their fault, Boeing made those design changes and rightly so, passenger safety has to be paramount, in my opinion Boeing implemented a manufacturing system that on the surface was designed to make the whole system flow, but it was to rigid and didn’t have the inevitable time delays factored into the system, building a brand new type of anything to such a rigid timescale was not a wise decision and was close to failure on more than one occasion, the system was untested and so the chance of it not working were magnified ten fold.
    All I seem to be hearing is “schedule, schedule, schedule” and that goes to show how much of a folly they actually made.

    • @qalba3016
      @qalba3016 3 роки тому

      That’s exactly what Russian did build their Concord that crashed at France air Show ONLY to beat the French and British by 2 months and launched the plane, time was everything to them , unfortunately crashed, by breaking a wing on the show flight test killing 14 including 6 onboard the flight

  • @JohnSmith-xs4fq
    @JohnSmith-xs4fq 7 років тому +1

    Do you think airbus copied Boeing with the a380 idea when the 747 was being designed as a full double deck aeroplane because airbus wasn't even a thing yet

  • @billwest8815
    @billwest8815 3 роки тому

    Hopefully without corporate production pressure and shortcuts

  • @m0ther_bra1ned12
    @m0ther_bra1ned12 4 місяці тому

    "Tempers flared" while civilized people calmly express thier concern. 😂

  • @giancarlogarlaschi4388
    @giancarlogarlaschi4388 3 роки тому +5

    So after 16 hrs. flying , I have to land this Beast at Auckland , New Zealand.
    Heavy rain , ceiling /visibility at minimums plus a gusting crosswind to 42 knots.
    The Autopilot CAN'T LAND, we are Out of the Autopilot's landing parameters ( max 15kts /25 kts xwind ).
    Our alternate airport, Wellington is not a good option, and fuel is on the limits.
    I add another 5 kts. to our final approach airspeed ...
    We barely make it on the Absolute Minimum parameters for a safe landing ...
    We Pilots , will Never be Replaced.
    That was a tough Command Decision , Plus ...I knew I had the Skills needed to land at the limits.
    B 777 , B 747 , B 767 , Douglas DC 8 71 Commander.
    Qatar Airways , USAF , LAN CHILE , Air Force of Chile. ( Ret. )
    Ps. I entered the Air Force Academy at 15 years old .

    • @thatmatty231guy
      @thatmatty231guy 3 роки тому

      What airline sir? I live in Auckland ! I love 777

  • @jamzal
    @jamzal 10 років тому +4

    Pepsi product placement? I count two so far.

  • @206dp
    @206dp Рік тому

    Why fly it to LA? Why not fly it to Paine Field?

  • @mixingof12
    @mixingof12 11 років тому +1

    Has anybody encounter that the video stopped

  • @aerlial360
    @aerlial360 9 років тому +10

    This shows, if you've watched any of the A380 manufacturing videos, that Airbus ripped off every procedure they have from what Boeing developed 20 years earlier.

    • @SpectreMk2
      @SpectreMk2 9 років тому +3

      +aerlial360 : Airbus was the first to produce a large double engine aircraft. Deal with it.

    • @beaumatthews3457
      @beaumatthews3457 8 років тому +4

      +SpectreMk2 Boeing was the first to produce in conduction with Pan Am the first double deck aircraft of the world revolutionizing over seas travel and the cargo industry with the nose door.

    • @ChrisCokeRobinson
      @ChrisCokeRobinson 8 років тому +2

      +SpectreMk2 you need to study your aviation history over again...concretely...late 1960s

    • @SpectreMk2
      @SpectreMk2 8 років тому +1

      ***** Can you be more specific?

    • @ChrisCokeRobinson
      @ChrisCokeRobinson 8 років тому +1

      SpectreMk2 bfy.tw/5eHA
      skip the second article about the A380. Look at the first article about double decker aircraft. and notice the search terms.

  • @DanielCrowder
    @DanielCrowder 11 років тому +5

    The porn-stache had to golden ages: the 1970's and as seen here, the early 1990's.

  • @TRPGpilot
    @TRPGpilot 4 роки тому +1

    With so many outside contractors, all of whom were metric countries, was the 777 designed in metric or US standard measures?

    • @jaredjeffs
      @jaredjeffs 4 роки тому

      Many items built in the U.S. are designed and built in metric units. So, very possibly it is.

    • @TRPGpilot
      @TRPGpilot 4 роки тому

      @@jaredjeffs Fair enough.

    • @straightpipediesel
      @straightpipediesel 3 роки тому +7

      @@jaredjeffs Airplanes are always built in inch, which carries on to the aerospace industry in general. Basically airlines refused to buy expensive new tools, which killed several European aircraft. Airbus decided to stay in inch on the A300, and are inch hardware/soft-metric to this day.

    • @jaredjeffs
      @jaredjeffs 3 роки тому

      @@straightpipediesel Interesting. That’s something I never knew until now. By the way, I like how you’re not one of those people who reply with “oh you’re so stupid it’s actually this other way.”

    • @straightpipediesel
      @straightpipediesel 3 роки тому +5

      @@TRPGpilot Yeah you don't know crap. You've never touched an airplane as far as I can tell. As I said Airbus structures are soft metric. They write stupid metric decimals to keep European purists like yourself happy, but they are actually inch. An A320 cabin is 143 inches wide but they write 3632 mm instead. All the hardware is AN inch. If you ever touched an airplane you'd know this.

  • @cw7784
    @cw7784 Рік тому

    It's good if Boeing says it's good on the cracking aluminum. SMH

    • @GlutenEruption
      @GlutenEruption 9 місяців тому +2

      This was back when Boeing was led by engineers back before the merger. The original 777 was and still is one of the best and safest airplanes ever built. They were discussing microcracks on non load bearing components which was purely an aesthetic issue and from an engineering and technical perspective had absolutely no impact on safety. Any the decision they came to was to spend more money to build a better product.
      And yes, the manufacturer specifies the tolerances, component life, allowable deviances, etc. When the customer discovers a potential issue, they call the company and the company's engineers tell them whether the part needs to be replaced of if it's an acceptable deviance in that specific part. That's how literally *everything* works. It's specifically because the engineers at Boeing aren't the ones deciding these issues anymore like they did here that makes it a problem.

    • @cw7784
      @cw7784 9 місяців тому +1

      @@GlutenEruption sad how it is now

    • @GlutenEruption
      @GlutenEruption 9 місяців тому +1

      @@cw7784 really sad. I come back and watch this every now and then when I feel like remembering what they used to be. This was the end of an era, before greedy executives started to treat engineering excellence as merely an inconvenience standing in the way of exponential corporate profits. They should be in jail.

    • @cw7784
      @cw7784 8 місяців тому +1

      @@GlutenEruption couldn’t agree more.

  • @snickerinmuttley1204
    @snickerinmuttley1204 Рік тому +1

    NIPPON SEIKI😃

  • @LinearElasticity
    @LinearElasticity 10 років тому +5

    this is bullshit, Boing making out that ASTA is at fault as a result of their decisions to change the rudder....Maybe if Boeing could design good aircraft/design fit for purpose at first issue...

    • @Apricotham
      @Apricotham 10 років тому +9

      I like @47:40"we've got a number of issues we need to fix" the aussie blokes like "money" haha

  • @rottinguranium7789
    @rottinguranium7789 3 роки тому +1

    boeing > airbus

  • @stevem7508
    @stevem7508 3 роки тому

    That's the problem when nothing is built in house.... what can the company expect

  • @aom808
    @aom808 3 роки тому

    53:13 Bon Jovi

  • @kylerider5519
    @kylerider5519 9 років тому +2

    There schedule is dumb. The plane will fly when it's ready to fly

    • @aerlial360
      @aerlial360 9 років тому +2

      +Kyle Rider If you have unlimited cash that may be a logical concept, however it's not when you're banking the entire future of a multi-billion dollar corporation, in a recession, developing a revolutionary product.

    • @get_emld
      @get_emld 8 років тому +3

      +Kyle Ryder u stupid

    • @macsrule94
      @macsrule94 7 років тому +3

      If they are late it will cost them big money. United committed in advance to purchase the plane with first delivery on May 15 1995. Boeing had guaranteed money to develop the plane as long as they met specifications

    • @Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis
      @Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis 4 роки тому +1

      They had customers, who already payed for something with the expectation of getting the product ready to go by a specific date.

  • @mikewatt8706
    @mikewatt8706 4 роки тому +1

    I flew the 777 many times and I always fealt uneasy. Didnt like 2 engined longhaul over water

  • @rossroderickwhitney
    @rossroderickwhitney 6 років тому +2

    If you love to look at talking heads, this is for you.

  • @craigparkinson4154
    @craigparkinson4154 4 роки тому +4

    I have absolutely no faith in boeing, I love the 777 I have flown on it maby times from san Francisco to the Philippines. But since I watched the broken dreams, 787 aljazera video and all the issues with the 737 I hope not to ever fly boeing again, far too friendly with the FAA, shame on them both for being too friendly abd putting the flying passengers at risk.I think air bus is way more safety conscious then boeing, and the quality is of a much higher standard.
    I personally hope boeing goes belly up, but it looks like they just got a huge amount from the orange guy.
    Boeing has cut corners and compromised their own safety rules just to meet deadlines.

    • @jaredjeffs
      @jaredjeffs 4 роки тому +5

      That broken dreams documentary is impossible to reconcile with its own self. I watched it myself, and it contradicts its own points no less than 26 times in the first half.

    • @iLoveBoysandBerries
      @iLoveBoysandBerries 3 роки тому +5

      Broken dreams was the most bs documentary ever made. There are over 1500 787s flying for over ten years now with zero incidents nor fatalities

    • @Videos888
      @Videos888 2 роки тому

      I am pretty sure refusing to fly the 787 is why you are actually still safely living still to write this comment!

  • @MikeSmith-wh7kf
    @MikeSmith-wh7kf 6 років тому +2

    Airbus made the FIRST wide body aircraft, the A300. Airbus also came out with fly by wire first and the composite. Just facts.

    • @griffith211
      @griffith211 6 років тому +13

      Mike Smith that is very true. True if you ignore the fact that the 747 came out before the A300

    • @DS-wo8wr
      @DS-wo8wr 6 років тому +10

      Let’s not forget the DC-10 and the L-1011...both of which predate the A-300 by several years...

    • @Sciolist
      @Sciolist 5 років тому +3

      1st TWIN ENGINED wide body

    • @SawdEndymon
      @SawdEndymon 4 роки тому

      The A320 was the first FBW airliner

    • @sarahl7080
      @sarahl7080 3 роки тому

      Just wrong lol

  • @rouser301
    @rouser301 4 роки тому +2

    Just too much time wasted on executives kissing their own asses and unimportant footage, Japanese workers exercising, the entire trip of a wing being shipped, endless over-detailed discussions. This whole series could be shrunk into two 1 hour features. I found myself skipping ahead repeatedly. thumbs down

    • @TRPGpilot
      @TRPGpilot 4 роки тому +7

      Unimportant to you, just as your unsolicited opinion of what was relevant is unimportant to anyone . . .

    • @rouser301
      @rouser301 4 роки тому

      @@TRPGpilot roflmao

    • @linesided
      @linesided 3 роки тому +2

      maybe you just have OCD?

    • @leejesson
      @leejesson 3 роки тому +1

      Hell

    • @teamtoken
      @teamtoken Рік тому +1

      I bet this dude pee’s sitting down

  • @obadiahyasharahla7704
    @obadiahyasharahla7704 2 роки тому +1

    This is SO DARN COOL. WOW

  • @dadjdemitri
    @dadjdemitri 10 років тому +4

    Thanks so much for this!