I’m so sorry you’re trip was no fun. That’s one reason I prefer to camp a little more isolated. That being said, I appreciate the lessons learned and look forward to seeing how you adapt to the challenges. I love tents but really appreciate the camper van for iffy weather, redundancies as you always tell us. I have a 5 gallon water setup but carry extra gallons of water just in case of malfunctions. I’m so glad you’re here with us, continuing to teach. You both are a blessing.
Pam when you use a thermal cooker you put the boiling water in the bottom pan, try cooking your food that you will be eating in the top one. That’s how I cook with mine then you don’t get water in it and it stays hot and good the whole time. Sorry for the all the things that went wrong. I hope someone helped you when all your gear was flying away. So grateful you’re all safe.😊
I wish there was a hug or caring option next to the thumps up button! I'm sorry no one helped you with all that clean-up. So glad you are both home safe & thank you for the water lesson. Rest up
I'm so sorry to hear you had rude neighbors at the campsite you went to. I'm glad to hear you are both uninjured from the having to fight the wind. I'm also glad to hear you will continue to go camping and this experience will not stop you from doing that. GOD Bless you both and prayers it will be much better next time. Looking forward to the next trip.
So scary, glad you're okay! This world would be such a better place if people would have respect for one another. Praying your next camping experience is enjoyable!
Jim and Pam I'm so sorry to hear of the challenges your encountered on your trip. It's sad when you embark on a trip with happy anticipation only to find Mother Nature and those around you are set against you. It saddens me to hear of people being so disrespectful and inconsiderate to their (temporary) neighbours - I'm sure they will feel just as you did when it happens to them. I'm glad you both were able to turn a not-so-fun experience into a positive one by taking the lessons you could from it to better prepare for your next outing. You both are so special to take the time to share you life and experience with us so we can learn to be better prepared in future. Many thanks for all you do!
Years ago when my children were toddlers, we camped nearly every weekend at Natural Bridge. After each trip we learned what to take next time and inevitably forgot something important regardless. We were primitive campers without any luxury items. Every trip was a brand new experience. Some were disasters for various reasons but most were pleasant but exhausting. I'm glad you and Jim were able to learn new things and what to do next time. Thanks for sharing your trip with us and I'm glad to know that neither of you were seriously injured in the windstorm disaster. I love your videos.
What an ordeal! Equipment issues & wind aside, the noise alone would make me want to leave & would ruin it for us. I never understand how people in public places think it is ok to subject others to their music. I hope you find a perfectly peaceful campsite for your next tent experience & that all goes even better than expected! ❤
I'm so sorry you had such a terrible experience, both with the people and the weather. We can tell in your voice how much it shook you up, but glad to hear you are determined to not let it dissuade you. It looked like so much fun as you were packing! I'm glad you were both ok. Thank you for always sharing so much, the good and the bad! We learn from experiences, our own and others.
Awwww!!!! I’m so sorry for your dreadful experience. I’m just glad that you are both okay. Unfortunately, these days many people are inconsiderate and disrespectful. Another lesson learned is not to camp near hooligans. Follow your instincts. At the first sign of a problem--pack up and leave. It’s not worth it.
Wow! I am so sorry about your troubled camping trip. I am also thankful that you are both safe and have the ability to see the lessons that are gained from such an awful experience. Thank you for sharing!
Pam & Jim - So sorry that the trip went south. Like many others here I truly don't know why some people go camping and have to have their music annoyingly loud and have to have the testosterone contest with the engines. The good news is that when you retire you will be able to go during the week when campgrounds are much less crowded and usually it is a more mature crowd, lol!! We are considering the screen room and are glad to know about the staking! Hugs to you both! 🫂🫂
It's really sad that it was such a bad trip for you both but I'm so glad you were not too far from home and are not injured badly. This may be one of the very best teaching videos however and I appreciate you sharing it. The more people where you camp the bigger the problems possibly with not just rudeness, but theft, vandalism and violence. Good to keep in mind and adjust your trips accordingly with few people and/or protection. Extra water and food (that doesn't need cooked) kept in the vehicle is always a good idea because you never know when a two-day trip will be extended indefinitely for whatever reasons. Your experiences are such a blessing and I pray you get rested and can enjoy many more wonderful adventures soon. Take care!!! 💕🙏
I love your comment. Those of us who always over pack are always thinking of contingencies. Of course we rarely need everything we bring. I have done every kind of non-extreme camping, from week long backpacking trips to 2 week long hunting camp and I always have too much stuff. The bottom line is this: I am responsible for my safety at all times (unless unconscious), and I only associate with people whom I would trust to care for me if I were unconscious. Conversely, they can count on me as well. I provide food, water and shelter for myself and anyone else in our immediate group. I also leave anywhere I don’t feel absolutely safe. Pam and Jim, you reacted appropriately in leaving. People who blast music and rev engines are enjoying themselves their way, but it is incompatible with me enjoying myself my way. I always relocate. They will never understand or accommodate another perspective. In Alaska we learned that there are quiet sports (hiking, backpacking, cross country skiing, fly fishing) and there are noisy sports (snow machining, jet skiing, ATVing, shooting). You have to be in the right mindset for each one.
Happy you made it home safe. One time camping and bicycle trail riding in San Angelo, TX, we got seven flat tires in five days. Four on the bicycles, two on the Pop-Up tent camper, and one on the pick-up truck at Walmart after we got home. Not as scary as what you went through - although a challenge. ❤
Oh Miss Pam Bless ya'll! So happy you both survived and hopefully you'll find something to chuckle about someday. Camping around strangers can be dicey but I'm shocked nobody came to help you! So home safe and sound with time to expand that master list. Hugs and love to you both!
Thank you for sharing this traumatic event. As I consider you and Jim "professional campers" and see how this event upended your trip, I can only imagine what a newbie camper would go through. We can't be prepared for everything, we can only try! Again, thank you for sharing! So much learned from this video!
I grew up in a camping family, and one of the reasons we stopped going as often was the other campers. They were loud, rude, and one time our stuff got stolen while we were hiking. I’m glad you’re safe.
I am so sorry this happened. I think it’s very sad that these neighbors were not more considering. And the fact that they didn’t come to your aid in your hour of need is just awful 😞
Sorry about your bad experiences camping! Thank you for sharing this with us.lm thankful you were close to home.A lesson learned about the water,even in a situation like that who would think of something happening to your complete water supply,that will help everyo e you shared with,it confirms that we don' t need to put all of our eggs in one basket ! Thank you and Jim for sharing your experience with us,as we need to all remember that so often things dont go as planned,sorry those people were rude to you .Hope your next trip will go smoothly so you can enjoy it and there will be more considerate ,and friendly campers around ! God bless you both.⛺️
Such a shame. That wind! Phew! That’s the trouble with a campsite close to home... it’s also close enough for others to head out on a Friday arvo and have a weekend of drinking and carousing. Still, live and learn. So glad you could take positives from the experience. I’m lucky enough to be heading off for a couple of days free camping, and even luckier that my job means I can have my “weekend” on Wednesday and Thursday this fortnight. I wish you still days, a neighbourless pitch, and cloudless evenings on your next camping trip.
Oh my goodness, what a disastrous trip. It all happened, didn't it. Must have been terrifying getting caught up like that. Yes, definitely take 2 separate Water stashes next time. Sorry the thermal cooker meal got diluted too. Hopefully the incidents & that mean Person hasn't put you of going there again. Glad your both Home Safe & Sound.👍🤗 TFS TG, take care & keep busy everyone. ❤🙂🐶
Bless your hearts! So sorry for all the negatives that happened on this trip, but also thankful that you and your husband are okay. Thank you for sharing what happened… more people will be better prepared for their trips because of what you shared. 🙂
When I saw your title I wondered if you had one of "those" experiences. We had one of those when we went hunting one year. I think people have gotten ruder than I have ever seen them. I am sure if they had people treating them like that they would be furious. I am glad you are still gong to go on your trips. I pray you never have to experience that again!!
Love that positive attitude! As Winston Churchill said, "Never, Never, Never give up!!" It's hard to keep a good camper down. We got chased away one time from a campground, because Hurricane Katrina decided to send some winds our way, when she wasn't supposed to!! It was scary then, but kinda funny now, after all these years.
As soon as you showed your ‘shared’ campsite, I knew it would be a source of stress. I wonder if google reviews would’ve be a help when choosing a place to camp.
My son has a screen house like yours and we took it to the beach well first time it blew away! So we went to Walmart got some reusable bags filled them with sand and tied them to the upper tabs then one time the wind popped the center in and we got a bungee cord and attached it to the sand bag. So when we are done we just empty the bags and pack them in with the clam. I love watching your adventures!
Goodness! What an experience! I’m glad you are ok! I’ve done years and years of car camping and learned things the hard way! Then after a season or two, have to re-learn! We got picky about our tent site - level for the tent, of course, but also as far away and as screened off from other people as possible. And yes, even on a mild day, fully stake out the tents. Perhaps some of your other listeners can weigh in, but I suspect that a round tent with inner pole frame might be more wind-proof than the big, classic square ones. The rounded tents, aren’t as big as yours, but they can be 6’ tall with big attached vestibules. I used to do a lot of canoeing with a group. Our eccentric trip leader would get revenge on noisy neighbors by banging out the dents in his aluminum canoe at 6 am! (I’m not recommending that!) For meal planning, I set up 3 columns on my page. Column 1 - the menu, col 2 - all the components, food items, utensils, etc., col 3 - either ‘to buy’ or things to make ahead, like your sauce.
What a great lesson! I am not a camping fan, yet this video was valuable to me. We can prepare as much as possible but the unanticipated variables test us. Being brave and fortunate, one does learn when everything goes wrong.
You guys are awesome. Yup, all campers have our stories of things that went wrong and things we forgot this time. You went to a whole other level that trip. So glad you weren’t hurt too much! I just started watching this second channel - you are already my favourite food prep channel!
Oh, I’m so glad that you got home safely! Thank you for sharing the negative lessons learned, along with the positive lessons. SO very important. You are such an inspiration! Thank you for all of your hard work!
Camping is no fun when neighbors are jerks. We retired recently and now plan our trips for Monday through Thursday. Traffic is better and the camping neighbors are better. Keep that in mind after you retire and can schedule your trips for off the weekends. Thank you for reporting your good, bad and scary experiences.
Oh, wow. What an experience. Thank you for sharing what you learned with us. I wonder if using dried beans, heated dry in the oven so they're good and hot, would work to replace the water and allow you less worry while keeping the temperature up? Those folks that were neighboring you have a lot to learn. May God continue to bless you and yours, always 💙
I’m so sorry Pam and Jim. I can hear the agony and disappointment in your voice Pam. My husband and I are of similar ages as you and Jim. We are learning our limits, physical and mental. We love to camp but prefer the RV anymore. Years ago, when using our tent, we didn’t find people as rude as they are now. Like you with this trip, we would have been less than tolerant concerning loud music. It’s unfair that others feel they can blast music and machines for reasons only known to them. I applaud that despite the many things that weren’t ideal, you handled each situation the best you could. I’m glad neither of you were hurt. Pam, you are a warrior, but a human one with feelings and emotions. The difference is that you look for a way to make things better. You share what you’ve learned. You dab your tears and then you find your inner strength. From one (professional) woman to another, I hold upmost respect for you. Also, thank you for all that you and Jim do to help educate another generation of eager learners!
Oh Pam! Bless you and Jim!! I know you were so looking forward to having a wonderful time! I’m really sorry things didn’t work out! I completely understand about the noise! My husband and I sold our home in February to find land to Homestead, which we are still searching for. In the mean time we have a camper and staying in a campground for long term campers like contract workers, traveling nurses, etc. We have a camper diagonal from us and they have 2 dogs that bark constantly. My husband works nights, so getting his sleep is important! We’ve talked to them, and the campground owners to no avail. We are currently looking for another campground, but in the mean time we’ve purchased sound machines to try to drown out the noise, I wear ear plugs the entire time I’m home, we’ve purchased bark inhibitors, which haven’t worked, and I’m doing a lot of praying!! I know you and Jim will try camping again soon! I’m praying it all goes smoothly for you next time!! 🙏🏻❤️😊
So glad you weren't injured! What an ordeal. God bless you both for sharing what happened, and precautions for next time. Do take some time to rest from this incident.
Bless your hearts! Mother nature can be a beast. Don't let that day pull you away from doing what you love. Things happen, people can be rude, etc. Chalking it up to being a learning experience is the best thing. I bought one of those pop up shelters after you introduced yours, a few weeks ago. Haven't had the chance to use it yet. Cant wait. Keep on trying! Love your videos. Be blessed.
We are up at Bryce right now and are about to set it up again. This time with better stakes and tie-downs. We will be showing it in a video in a few days.
So glad you were close to home and no injuries. AND there seems to always be a pooper at the party, I don’t understand why people are rude, so unnecessary. Thank you both for always sharing your experiences, good & bad with us all ❤
Oh Lord…what a scary experience! I’m so glad you guys are Ok. Frankly, I’ve had bad camping experiences camping too, with rain and flooding. I didn’t see any trees? You were wide open for that wind and sun beating down on you. And yep..terrible neighbors, rowdy, blasting music…ruins everything. But your Ok and your back safe at home….
So sorry to hear your trip was a disaster, and grateful you were not seriously injured. The forces of nature can be shocking and wreak havoc quickly. It will take some time to overcome the residual emotions after such an event. Rude, loud people with an entitlement belief system make me angry too. Be well you two and be safe. I'm so happy I found your second channel.
We have owned two different thermo pots when were were traveling Australia. I found that if I didn’t take the lid off the pot after heating it formed a vacuum. We had beautiful meals every night after a full day of traveling. Best cooking utensils we ever purchased. Love watching your videos. Shelley New Zealand
@@trailgrazers3690 the instructions for mine said to make sure you didn’t lift the lid after the 15 minutes of heating the food. I put either rice or veggies in the top pot. I even cooked roast size corned beef and vege
I am so so glad that you Both are ok. It sounds terrifying and you are allowed to be upset. Thank you for still updating us with the truth and not making out it was all wonderful like some other channels ❤❤❤
Oh gosh ... what a disaster ... but I'm glad to hear this experience will not stop you from future camping trips ... and yes ... in a short while ... I promise - you will be able to laugh when re-telling your story ... it is a good one to tell. As for the screen tent ... we too have learned to guide off the sides and use an extension pole (like a painter would use) to support the roof to keep it from collapsing on itself in adverse conditions ... as for the trapping of heat inside ... we found a small fan was all it took to make the environment become very comfortable ... and enjoyable to be in. Thank you for all your stories and lessons learned ... it is nice to listen to down to earth folk as yourselves
Sadly people like your neighbours are everywhere, including Australia. What is wonderful is seeing far more people amongst your followers expressing concern, commiseration for the experience, sending best wishes and thanks for your sharing the lessons you learned. May the good always outnumber the not so good. Thank you for all you do. ❤
Thank goodness you were not hurt any worse. I have had my share of disasters while camping, you will laugh a little more later on. I am sure it was scary to be "out of control" in an "away from home" environment where neither of you could help the other one. Thank you for the frank video. I had to laugh, but not too much, because I have been there and done that too! You two are both stubborn and won't let it get you down. I am sure your new list is extensive!! Can't wait for a NEW TENT CAMPING video update!!
I absolutely love that you seem to approach everything scientifically😍 (I'm not done with the video yet, just wanted to say that) 20:04 .. I was gonna say crap shoot😞 Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. My heavens, how nerve wracking and frightening😨 I'm sure thankful you're both a couple of tough cookies that I'm learning so much from. God bless and keep you both protected.
Well, I couldn’t “like” this video because I felt so bad for your and Jim’s experiences! So disappointing for both of you! But, I did respect and admire your take on it - lessons learned. Life is always about learning, then applying what we learn. There are only so many things we can control though, and unruly, rude “neighbours”, and weather can’t be controlled. But you two are troopers! Keep on with what you are doing. And thanks for sharing!
OMG! You will see how funny it was once time goes by a bit. Thank the lord neither of you were injured. Mother Nature has been messing with you guys lately. Please stay safe and sending hugs to you both 💜🙏😎
I am so sorry this happened to you and hope, like you said, that someday you can laugh about it. I am so glad your arm itself wasn’t caught, like your sleeve. I hope the first part of this note is found! Ha. The dogs were on the bed with me and they both barked, tore off the bed, and out the dog door, I jumped and accidentally sent the message, I guess when startled. I am glad you got home safely, that you were not hurt, and you survived the loud music. Let’s just call that trip an experiment, and it was successful in what you learned. God bless you both. That was a nightmare trip.
Those Clam style screen houses are a disaster in the wind! My sister and I were at our camp in the desert, and had one of those set up, when a huge storm came upon us. We popped that thing down so fast, while the wind, rain and hail kicked our asses! Camping is always an adventure. It helps to be either brave or stupid…😂 We still laugh about to this day. Someday, you will too.
It sounds like the trip was a real trial. Next time you set up a pop up like the screen house it’s very important to stake out the pop out sides in addition to staking the bottom. This helps prevent the wind from pushing the sides in and from the tent rolling. We live in an area with VERY high winds and this works for us here. Again, I’m so sorry you went through all this and am impressed that you took the e positive view of the whole experience
Thank you. We learned that the hard way! We recently went to Bryce Canyon for a few days and set it up there and staked the pop out sides and it worked great.
Thank you for sharing your camping story.... I am sorry it was not what you were hoping for. This experience you shared will get me better prepared for our camping trip, (I hope). Thank you again for sharing your experience.💗👍
Pam and Jim you are both an absolute inspiration. Yes there are a few things to tweak and I am very relieved you are both ok but if anyone is going to come back stronger and better sorted than ever its you both.
I'm grateful you all were not hurt physically but sound SO scary!! As life long campers both tent and pop up camper we find each campground has its own culture particularily from locals who come to the same campground with their friends. We value quiet and birda etc some campgrounds value late night party atmosphere- We have been stuck like you were with the wrong crowd. You may want to write a review so party people can stay away from nature loving quiet people...hugs
Oh my! What a trip! I am sure in a few weeks you'll be able to laugh about this experience. My husband and 3 young boys and I were camping at a coastal campground when a severe storm came up. We went to our car to wait it out, at the rangers recommendation. So glad we did. Our tent was blown over, everything was soaked! We packed up and headed home. Then driving home in the dark, I took a wrong turn and we ended up lost. Just thinking about it I laugh. It was a very memorable camping trip. We still camp. I love your tent, lookingat them on Amazon, we need something easier to set up.
Great learning experience so difficult. Recently we went camping in monsoon rains with friends knowing the weather would be harsh. Because we were prepared we were able to endure and our tents held up. It was a great test and we learned a lot. I was grateful for friends who are willing to come along and learn with us. Our little Coleman stove was so easy to use and our food was packed in bottled jars pre-prepared, so we only needed to cook up some hot water. This made meals much easier while learning to adapt. One evening it poured monsoon style, so we went to the local campground restaurant. The buddy heater also worked wonderfully inside the tent. This was a four day trip while boating, and we were blessed to have a few days out on the lake.
What a wonderful adventure! Sound exciting. We had a little rain and I was please with our tent. I would like to try it in monsoon rains...at least I think I would. Maybe not for a while, however!
Pam, I’m glad you’re both safe! This is a learning experience not a failure by any means. It’s a good thing this happened while you were this close to home. I call these “training opportunities “ and nature is the one training y’all how to prepare for a better experience!
I'm sorry you're trip did not go as planned but it was a great learning experience, not just for you but those of us that watch your video. I am in my seventies and I used to primative camp when I was very young but I have not been camping for decades. I am planning a two week camping trip for September and I will be going about a thousand miles from home but I am meeting people there so I won't be alone. Since all my camping equipment has either dry rotted or never returned home from when my children have used it I am having to buy new. I now have my four season tent and a sleeping bag, good for -30°F, camp tools and my luggable loo. Still have a lot to purchase between now and Sept. After seeing this I think I will do a couple of trial runs this summer in my local state park just to be safe. I don't have a freeze dryer but I have been watching your Rose Red Homestead videos on making meals in a bag, so I will be taking several of those. I really appreciate the detail you go into on your videos, it's so very helpful. Looking forward to more great videos. Thank you so sharing.
Sounds like a real nightmare! I had the same thing happened to me in Quartzsite Arizona in my clam tent. It’s a 12 x 12 tent and I had it all set up with tables and chairs and everything inside. Then the wind came up and has I was standing inside the top came down and hit me on the head. I ran out just in time before the whole tent and all the stuff inside rolled away. Plain old tent stakes just do not work. It was really frightening! Now I will take it down if it gets over 15 miles an hour wind. And also I put my pick up truck between my class a RV and have it hooked to the pick up truck and the RV and I have extra long stakes that I put into the ground. Life’s lessons are never over! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Someday I’ll have to tell you the story about how a bear went under the bottom of my clam tent and ripped both sides of the tent at 1 o’clock in the morning. I was just ready to walk out the door thinking that the wind was picking it up but it was a bear going inside. I am lucky I looked out the window before I went out.
I’m so sorry you’re trip was no fun. That’s one reason I prefer to camp a little more isolated. That being said, I appreciate the lessons learned and look forward to seeing how you adapt to the challenges. I love tents but really appreciate the camper van for iffy weather, redundancies as you always tell us. I have a 5 gallon water setup but carry extra gallons of water just in case of malfunctions. I’m so glad you’re here with us, continuing to teach. You both are a blessing.
Thank you. Yes, we learned important lessons.
Pam when you use a thermal cooker you put the boiling water in the bottom pan, try cooking your food that you will be eating in the top one. That’s how I cook with mine then you don’t get water in it and it stays hot and good the whole time. Sorry for the all the things that went wrong. I hope someone helped you when all your gear was flying away. So grateful you’re all safe.😊
Thanks for the tip! I plan to do more experimenting!
I wish there was a hug or caring option next to the thumps up button! I'm sorry no one helped you with all that clean-up. So glad you are both home safe & thank you for the water lesson. Rest up
Thank you. We are OK now.
That makes me really sad that people were mean to you. The world is growing colder by the day. Literally.
God bless you Trail Grazers :)
Thank you!
I'm so sorry to hear you had rude neighbors at the campsite you went to. I'm glad to hear you are both uninjured from the having to fight the wind. I'm also glad to hear you will continue to go camping and this experience will not stop you from doing that. GOD Bless you both and prayers it will be much better next time. Looking forward to the next trip.
Thank you.
So scary, glad you're okay! This world would be such a better place if people would have respect for one another. Praying your next camping experience is enjoyable!
Thank you. We think our next one will be much better.
Jim and Pam I'm so sorry to hear of the challenges your encountered on your trip. It's sad when you embark on a trip with happy anticipation only to find Mother Nature and those around you are set against you. It saddens me to hear of people being so disrespectful and inconsiderate to their (temporary) neighbours - I'm sure they will feel just as you did when it happens to them. I'm glad you both were able to turn a not-so-fun experience into a positive one by taking the lessons you could from it to better prepare for your next outing. You both are so special to take the time to share you life and experience with us so we can learn to be better prepared in future. Many thanks for all you do!
You are very welcome. Thanks for your kind words.
Years ago when my children were toddlers, we camped nearly every weekend at Natural Bridge. After each trip we learned what to take next time and inevitably forgot something important regardless. We were primitive campers without any luxury items. Every trip was a brand new experience. Some were disasters for various reasons but most were pleasant but exhausting. I'm glad you and Jim were able to learn new things and what to do next time. Thanks for sharing your trip with us and I'm glad to know that neither of you were seriously injured in the windstorm disaster. I love your videos.
What happy memories you created for your children! That is terrific!
What an ordeal! Equipment issues & wind aside, the noise alone would make me want to leave & would ruin it for us. I never understand how people in public places think it is ok to subject others to their music.
I hope you find a perfectly peaceful campsite for your next tent experience & that all goes even better than expected! ❤
My heart was sinking as I listened. I am so thankful that you are both home and safe.
Thank you.
I am so sorry that happened! Thank goodness you were so close to home!
I'm so sorry you had such a terrible experience, both with the people and the weather. We can tell in your voice how much it shook you up, but glad to hear you are determined to not let it dissuade you. It looked like so much fun as you were packing! I'm glad you were both ok. Thank you for always sharing so much, the good and the bad! We learn from experiences, our own and others.
Thanks so much for your words of encouragement! We appreciate that.
Awwww!!!! I’m so sorry for your dreadful experience. I’m just glad that you are both okay. Unfortunately, these days many people are inconsiderate and disrespectful. Another lesson learned is not to camp near hooligans. Follow your instincts. At the first sign of a problem--pack up and leave. It’s not worth it.
We agree! Thanks.
So glad you are both safe and healing up!
As they say here in the South, Bless Your Heart. Glad you are home and safe!
Thank you. We are glad as well.
Wow! I am so sorry about your troubled camping trip. I am also thankful that you are both safe and have the ability to see the lessons that are gained from such an awful experience. Thank you for sharing!
You are welcome.
Pam & Jim - So sorry that the trip went south. Like many others here I truly don't know why some people go camping and have to have their music annoyingly loud and have to have the testosterone contest with the engines. The good news is that when you retire you will be able to go during the week when campgrounds are much less crowded and usually it is a more mature crowd, lol!!
We are considering the screen room and are glad to know about the staking!
Hugs to you both! 🫂🫂
Thank you! Yes, I think the staking will help a lot.
Thank you for sharing all that went right and all that went wrong. I am glad you are both doing well after this experience.
It's really sad that it was such a bad trip for you both but I'm so glad you were not too far from home and are not injured badly. This may be one of the very best teaching videos however and I appreciate you sharing it. The more people where you camp the bigger the problems possibly with not just rudeness, but theft, vandalism and violence. Good to keep in mind and adjust your trips accordingly with few people and/or protection. Extra water and food (that doesn't need cooked) kept in the vehicle is always a good idea because you never know when a two-day trip will be extended indefinitely for whatever reasons. Your experiences are such a blessing and I pray you get rested and can enjoy many more wonderful adventures soon. Take care!!! 💕🙏
I love your comment. Those of us who always over pack are always thinking of contingencies. Of course we rarely need everything we bring. I have done every kind of non-extreme camping, from week long backpacking trips to 2 week long hunting camp and I always have too much stuff. The bottom line is this: I am responsible for my safety at all times (unless unconscious), and I only associate with people whom I would trust to care for me if I were unconscious. Conversely, they can count on me as well. I provide food, water and shelter for myself and anyone else in our immediate group. I also leave anywhere I don’t feel absolutely safe. Pam and Jim, you reacted appropriately in leaving. People who blast music and rev engines are enjoying themselves their way, but it is incompatible with me enjoying myself my way. I always relocate. They will never understand or accommodate another perspective. In Alaska we learned that there are quiet sports (hiking, backpacking, cross country skiing, fly fishing) and there are noisy sports (snow machining, jet skiing, ATVing, shooting). You have to be in the right mindset for each one.
Great comments from both of you. Thank you both.
Even though it was a rough ,rough experience.,you're out there living a real life. Glad you both came thru it!
We are, too! Thank you.
Happy you made it home safe. One time camping and bicycle trail riding in San Angelo, TX, we got seven flat tires in five days. Four on the bicycles, two on the Pop-Up tent camper, and one on the pick-up truck at Walmart after we got home. Not as scary as what you went through - although a challenge. ❤
Oh goodness! That was a real challenge!
Oh Miss Pam Bless ya'll! So happy you both survived and hopefully you'll find something to chuckle about someday. Camping around strangers can be dicey but I'm shocked nobody came to help you! So home safe and sound with time to expand that master list. Hugs and love to you both!
Thank you.
And a big thank you for telling this adventure will help lots of people
I hope so! Thanks. We sure learned a lot!
Thank you for sharing this traumatic event. As I consider you and Jim "professional campers" and see how this event upended your trip, I can only imagine what a newbie camper would go through. We can't be prepared for everything, we can only try! Again, thank you for sharing! So much learned from this video!
Our pleasure! Thanks for your comment.
I grew up in a camping family, and one of the reasons we stopped going as often was the other campers. They were loud, rude, and one time our stuff got stolen while we were hiking. I’m glad you’re safe.
Thank you. It is sad, for sure.
I am so sorry this happened. I think it’s very sad that these neighbors were not more considering. And the fact that they didn’t come to your aid in your hour of need is just awful 😞
Yes, it is sad, but not surprising I am sorry to say. We will have a better experience next time.
Glad you are both safe, and hopefully most of your equipment survived!
Thank you. Yes, almost everything was spared. I lost a spoon to one of my table settings, but that is nothing compared to what it could have been.
Sorry about your bad experiences camping! Thank you for sharing this with us.lm thankful you were close to home.A lesson learned about the water,even in a situation like that who would think of something happening to your complete water supply,that will help everyo e you shared with,it confirms that we don' t need to put all of our eggs in one basket ! Thank you and Jim for sharing your experience with us,as we need to all remember that so often things dont go as planned,sorry those people were rude to you .Hope your next trip will go smoothly so you can enjoy it and there will be more considerate ,and friendly campers around ! God bless you both.⛺️
Such a shame. That wind! Phew! That’s the trouble with a campsite close to home... it’s also close enough for others to head out on a Friday arvo and have a weekend of drinking and carousing. Still, live and learn. So glad you could take positives from the experience. I’m lucky enough to be heading off for a couple of days free camping, and even luckier that my job means I can have my “weekend” on Wednesday and Thursday this fortnight. I wish you still days, a neighbourless pitch, and cloudless evenings on your next camping trip.
Thank you! We are looking forward to my retirement so we can have our weekends whenever we want as well!
Oh my goodness, what a disastrous trip. It all happened, didn't it. Must have been terrifying getting caught up like that. Yes, definitely take 2 separate Water stashes next time. Sorry the thermal cooker meal got diluted too. Hopefully the incidents & that mean Person hasn't put you of going there again. Glad your both Home Safe & Sound.👍🤗
TFS TG, take care & keep busy everyone. ❤🙂🐶
Thank you. We have loved the thermal cooking tips everyone is contributing!
Bless your hearts! So sorry for all the negatives that happened on this trip, but also thankful that you and your husband are okay. Thank you for sharing what happened… more people will be better prepared for their trips because of what you shared. 🙂
Thank you so much!
I can see how much this all upset you. I really hope that your next trip is more successful. Thank you for making these videos for us to watch. 🇬🇧👍
You are welcome.
You are loved! So happy you're both safe and not too bashed up. Thanks for sharing your experiences and your solar setup.
You are welcome.
Bless your ❤️ heart
Im so sorry you both had such a horrific experience. I Praise God you both are safe.
Thank you. We are feeling much better and are focusing on the things we learned.
When I saw your title I wondered if you had one of "those" experiences. We had one of those when we went hunting one year. I think people have gotten ruder than I have ever seen them. I am sure if they had people treating them like that they would be furious. I am glad you are still gong to go on your trips. I pray you never have to experience that again!!
Thank you.
Love that positive attitude! As Winston Churchill said, "Never, Never, Never give up!!" It's hard to keep a good camper down. We got chased away one time from a campground, because Hurricane Katrina decided to send some winds our way, when she wasn't supposed to!! It was scary then, but kinda funny now, after all these years.
That would be really scary--glad you can laugh about it now.
As soon as you showed your ‘shared’ campsite, I knew it would be a source of stress. I wonder if google reviews would’ve be a help when choosing a place to camp.
Worth a try. Thank you.
My son has a screen house like yours and we took it to the beach well first time it blew away! So we went to Walmart got some reusable bags filled them with sand and tied them to the upper tabs then one time the wind popped the center in and we got a bungee cord and attached it to the sand bag. So when we are done we just empty the bags and pack them in with the clam. I love watching your adventures!
Great idea! Thanks.
Goodness! What an experience! I’m glad you are ok! I’ve done years and years of car camping and learned things the hard way! Then after a season or two, have to re-learn! We got picky about our tent site - level for the tent, of course, but also as far away and as screened off from other people as possible. And yes, even on a mild day, fully stake out the tents. Perhaps some of your other listeners can weigh in, but I suspect that a round tent with inner pole frame might be more wind-proof than the big, classic square ones. The rounded tents, aren’t as big as yours, but they can be 6’ tall with big attached vestibules.
I used to do a lot of canoeing with a group. Our eccentric trip leader would get revenge on noisy neighbors by banging out the dents in his aluminum canoe at 6 am! (I’m not recommending that!)
For meal planning, I set up 3 columns on my page. Column 1 - the menu, col 2 - all the components, food items, utensils, etc., col 3 - either ‘to buy’ or things to make ahead, like your sauce.
Thanks for all your tips! Love learning from everyone.
What a great lesson! I am not a camping fan, yet this video was valuable to me. We can prepare as much as possible but the unanticipated variables test us. Being brave and fortunate, one does learn when everything goes wrong.
Oh almost forgot to mention, magazines from pre-1930 showed multiple examples of "fuelless cookers" they were a valued appliance.
Glad it was helpful!
Awe you two are so tough and you are so wonderful to post it all what great lessons we can all glean from this. Thank you for posting so much
Thank you so much!
Oh my! Thanks for sharing your experience and allowing us to learn through your unfortunate camping adventure.
You are very welcome! We learned a lot ourselves!
You guys are awesome. Yup, all campers have our stories of things that went wrong and things we forgot this time. You went to a whole other level that trip. So glad you weren’t hurt too much! I just started watching this second channel - you are already my favourite food prep channel!
Wow--thank you!
Oh, I’m so glad that you got home safely! Thank you for sharing the negative lessons learned, along with the positive lessons. SO very important. You are such an inspiration! Thank you for all of your hard work!
You are so welcome!
Camping is no fun when neighbors are jerks. We retired recently and now plan our trips for Monday through Thursday. Traffic is better and the camping neighbors are better. Keep that in mind after you retire and can schedule your trips for off the weekends. Thank you for reporting your good, bad and scary experiences.
That sounds like a great plan! We are talking about doing just that.
Glad that you are both ok. Thank you for all you do and sharing your adventures.
You are welcome.
I'm thankful y'all weren't injured!! 🙏
Thank you...so are we!
Oh, wow. What an experience. Thank you for sharing what you learned with us. I wonder if using dried beans, heated dry in the oven so they're good and hot, would work to replace the water and allow you less worry while keeping the temperature up? Those folks that were neighboring you have a lot to learn. May God continue to bless you and yours, always 💙
Thank you.
So sad and scarey after all your preparations.
Yes, it was, but we learned good lessons.
I’m so sorry Pam and Jim. I can hear the agony and disappointment in your voice Pam. My husband and I are of similar ages as you and Jim. We are learning our limits, physical and mental. We love to camp but prefer the RV anymore. Years ago, when using our tent, we didn’t find people as rude as they are now. Like you with this trip, we would have been less than tolerant concerning loud music. It’s unfair that others feel they can blast music and machines for reasons only known to them. I applaud that despite the many things that weren’t ideal, you handled each situation the best you could. I’m glad neither of you were hurt. Pam, you are a warrior, but a human one with feelings and emotions. The difference is that you look for a way to make things better. You share what you’ve learned. You dab your tears and then you find your inner strength. From one (professional) woman to another, I hold upmost respect for you. Also, thank you for all that you and Jim do to help educate another generation of eager learners!
Thank you so much for your kind words, Susey Q. We learned some good lessons. Like you, I think most of the time we will go in our RV from now on.
Oh Pam! Bless you and Jim!! I know you were so looking forward to having a wonderful time! I’m really sorry things didn’t work out! I completely understand about the noise! My husband and I sold our home in February to find land to Homestead, which we are still searching for. In the mean time we have a camper and staying in a campground for long term campers like contract workers, traveling nurses, etc. We have a camper diagonal from us and they have 2 dogs that bark constantly. My husband works nights, so getting his sleep is important! We’ve talked to them, and the campground owners to no avail. We are currently looking for another campground, but in the mean time we’ve purchased sound machines to try to drown out the noise, I wear ear plugs the entire time I’m home, we’ve purchased bark inhibitors, which haven’t worked, and I’m doing a lot of praying!!
I know you and Jim will try camping again soon! I’m praying it all goes smoothly for you next time!! 🙏🏻❤️😊
Thank you! So sorry about your thoughtless neighbors. Hope you are able to relocate soon.
So glad you weren't injured! What an ordeal. God bless you both for sharing what happened, and precautions for next time. Do take some time to rest from this incident.
Thank you. We are very glad to have that behind us.
Bless your hearts! Mother nature can be a beast. Don't let that day pull you away from doing what you love. Things happen, people can be rude, etc. Chalking it up to being a learning experience is the best thing. I bought one of those pop up shelters after you introduced yours, a few weeks ago. Haven't had the chance to use it yet. Cant wait. Keep on trying! Love your videos. Be blessed.
We are up at Bryce right now and are about to set it up again. This time with better stakes and tie-downs. We will be showing it in a video in a few days.
@@trailgrazers3690 I hope all goes well. Have a great time! Looking forward to the video. Blessings
So glad you were close to home and no injuries. AND there seems to always be a pooper at the party, I don’t understand why people are rude, so unnecessary. Thank you both for always sharing your experiences, good & bad with us all ❤
You are welcome. It is good we can all learn from each other.
Oh Lord…what a scary experience! I’m so glad you guys are Ok. Frankly, I’ve had bad camping experiences camping too, with rain and flooding. I didn’t see any trees? You were wide open for that wind and sun beating down on you. And yep..terrible neighbors, rowdy, blasting music…ruins everything. But your Ok and your back safe at home….
Yes, thanks. It was sure good to get home again! But we are OK now!
So sorry to hear that all this happened to you, but grateful that you’re ok. Thanks for sharing the good and the bad, as learning comes from both.
You are welcome. And I agree that learning does indeed come from both.
So sorry to hear your trip was a disaster, and grateful you were not seriously injured. The forces of nature can be shocking and wreak havoc quickly. It will take some time to overcome the residual emotions after such an event. Rude, loud people with an entitlement belief system make me angry too. Be well you two and be safe. I'm so happy I found your second channel.
We are happy you found us as well!
We have owned two different thermo pots when were were traveling Australia. I found that if I didn’t take the lid off the pot after heating it formed a vacuum. We had beautiful meals every night after a full day of traveling. Best cooking utensils we ever purchased. Love watching your videos. Shelley New Zealand
Thank you, Shelley. Loved hearing about the vacuum...ours didn't do that, but perhaps I can rig it to o that. It makes a lot of sense!
@@trailgrazers3690 the instructions for mine said to make sure you didn’t lift the lid after the 15 minutes of heating the food. I put either rice or veggies in the top pot. I even cooked roast size corned beef and vege
Thank you for sharing this disaster; we can all learn from this. Not a total loss-you learned some valuable lessons!
Yes, we surely did! Thanks for your comment.
I am so so glad that you Both are ok. It sounds terrifying and you are allowed to be upset. Thank you for still updating us with the truth and not making out it was all wonderful like some other channels ❤❤❤
Thank you so much!
Thankful that you are both ok!
Thank you!
I'm so sorry your trip didn't go well. At least you keep your head on and was able to learn some good lessons. I hope things go better next trip.
We are on our next trip right now, but we are in our trailer and up at Bryce Canyon. It is glorious! Thank you.
Oh gosh ... what a disaster ... but I'm glad to hear this experience will not stop you from future camping trips ... and yes ... in a short while ... I promise - you will be able to laugh when re-telling your story ... it is a good one to tell. As for the screen tent ... we too have learned to guide off the sides and use an extension pole (like a painter would use) to support the roof to keep it from collapsing on itself in adverse conditions ... as for the trapping of heat inside ... we found a small fan was all it took to make the environment become very comfortable ... and enjoyable to be in. Thank you for all your stories and lessons learned ... it is nice to listen to down to earth folk as yourselves
Thanks for those tips--loved the center pole idea.
Sadly people like your neighbours are everywhere, including Australia.
What is wonderful is seeing far more people amongst your followers expressing concern, commiseration for the experience, sending best wishes and thanks for your sharing the lessons you learned. May the good always outnumber the not so good.
Thank you for all you do. ❤
I do believe the good outnumber the bad by lots and lots! Thank you.
Thank goodness you were not hurt any worse. I have had my share of disasters while camping, you will laugh a little more later on. I am sure it was scary to be "out of control" in an "away from home" environment where neither of you could help the other one. Thank you for the frank video. I had to laugh, but not too much, because I have been there and done that too! You two are both stubborn and won't let it get you down. I am sure your new list is extensive!! Can't wait for a NEW TENT CAMPING video update!!
We will be doing most camping this summer in our trailer. Maybe in the fall we will do another tent camping video.
The disaster camptrips are always the most memorable ones. I'm glad you guys are ok.
Thanks! We are heading out again in a few days, but taking our trailer this time!
So sorry this. happened. Glad that you both are ok
Thanks.
Oh, sounds so horrible. I am happy y'all weren't terribly Injured.
Thank you. We are fine, now.
So glad you made it home safely!
Thank you. So are we!
My goodness, what a traumatic experience! Thankfully you were testing this equipment close to home. I'm glad you are both safe.
Thank you!
I absolutely love that you seem to approach everything scientifically😍 (I'm not done with the video yet, just wanted to say that)
20:04 .. I was gonna say crap shoot😞 Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
My heavens, how nerve wracking and frightening😨 I'm sure thankful you're both a couple of tough cookies that I'm learning so much from.
God bless and keep you both protected.
Thank you so much.
Glad you’re home safe
Thank you...so are we!
Well, I couldn’t “like” this video because I felt so bad for your and Jim’s experiences! So disappointing for both of you!
But, I did respect and admire your take on it - lessons learned. Life is always about learning, then applying what we learn. There are only so many things we can control though, and unruly, rude “neighbours”, and weather can’t be controlled. But you two are troopers! Keep on with what you are doing. And thanks for sharing!
Thank you.
Oh my goodness. So happy that you are home safely.
Thank you! So are we.
OMG. What an experience!!! Glad you two made it out alive!
Thank you. We were really glad to get home!
I'm glad you are safe. What a great positive learning attitude you have, no surprise after watching your videos for awhile.
Thank you for your kind words and encouragement.
So glad you are both ok
Thank you.
OMG! You will see how funny it was once time goes by a bit. Thank the lord neither of you were injured. Mother Nature has been messing with you guys lately. Please stay safe and sending hugs to you both 💜🙏😎
Thank you, Vikki. Yes, I think we will be able to laugh about it at some point. I just wish I could have captured it on camera!
I am so sorry this happened to you and hope, like you said, that someday you can laugh about it. I am so glad your arm itself wasn’t caught, like your sleeve. I hope the first part of this note is found! Ha. The dogs were on the bed with me and they both barked, tore off the bed, and out the dog door, I jumped and accidentally sent the message, I guess when startled. I am glad you got home safely, that you were not hurt, and you survived the loud music. Let’s just call that trip an experiment, and it was successful in what you learned. God bless you both. That was a nightmare trip.
Thank you for your concern. We are OK now and I think we will be able to laugh about it soon!
What an adventure! 😊 Glad everyone is safe.
Us too! Thanks.
Those Clam style screen houses are a disaster in the wind! My sister and I were at our camp in the desert, and had one of those set up, when a huge storm came upon us. We popped that thing down so fast, while the wind, rain and hail kicked our asses! Camping is always an adventure. It helps to be either brave or stupid…😂 We still laugh about to this day. Someday, you will too.
I think we are almost there! We have the Clam with us up at Bryce and will be trying it out again.
So thankful that you and Mr. Jim are alright. We love to camp and I have learned from you two how to camp with just what we need.
Thank you!
“It’s not quite super funny” Lol
Thankful you both are ok. Valuable lessons learned! God bless.
Yes! Thank you!
It sounds like the trip was a real trial. Next time you set up a pop up like the screen house it’s very important to stake out the pop out sides in addition to staking the bottom. This helps prevent the wind from pushing the sides in and from the tent rolling. We live in an area with VERY high winds and this works for us here.
Again, I’m so sorry you went through all this and am impressed that you took the e positive view of the whole experience
Thank you. We learned that the hard way! We recently went to Bryce Canyon for a few days and set it up there and staked the pop out sides and it worked great.
So so sorry that you had such a terrible tent camping trip. Thank goodness you made it thru. So many new lessons learned.
Yes, indeed. We will be much better prepared next time.
Thank you for sharing your camping story.... I am sorry it was not what you were hoping for. This experience you shared will get me better prepared for our camping trip, (I hope). Thank you again for sharing your experience.💗👍
Thanks for watching!
Pam and Jim you are both an absolute inspiration. Yes there are a few things to tweak and I am very relieved you are both ok but if anyone is going to come back stronger and better sorted than ever its you both.
Thanks for your confidence! We appreciate that.
I'm grateful you all were not hurt physically but sound SO scary!! As life long campers both tent and pop up camper we find each campground has its own culture particularily from locals who come to the same campground with their friends. We value quiet and birda etc some campgrounds value late night party atmosphere- We have been stuck like you were with the wrong crowd. You may want to write a review so party people can stay away from nature loving quiet people...hugs
Thank you!
Oh my! What a trip! I am sure in a few weeks you'll be able to laugh about this experience. My husband and 3 young boys and I were camping at a coastal campground when a severe storm came up. We went to our car to wait it out, at the rangers recommendation. So glad we did. Our tent was blown over, everything was soaked! We packed up and headed home. Then driving home in the dark, I took a wrong turn and we ended up lost. Just thinking about it I laugh. It was a very memorable camping trip. We still camp. I love your tent, lookingat them on Amazon, we need something easier to set up.
Wow--what a story. Yes, we can look back and laugh about it now.
Great learning experience so difficult. Recently we went camping in monsoon rains with friends knowing the weather would be harsh. Because we were prepared we were able to endure and our tents held up. It was a great test and we learned a lot. I was grateful for friends who are willing to come along and learn with us. Our little Coleman stove was so easy to use and our food was packed in bottled jars pre-prepared, so we only needed to cook up some hot water. This made meals much easier while learning to adapt. One evening it poured monsoon style, so we went to the local campground restaurant. The buddy heater also worked wonderfully inside the tent. This was a four day trip while boating, and we were blessed to have a few days out on the lake.
What a wonderful adventure! Sound exciting. We had a little rain and I was please with our tent. I would like to try it in monsoon rains...at least I think I would. Maybe not for a while, however!
I'm so sorry you had to go through all of that. HUGS!!!
Thank you so much!
I'm so sorry you guys had such rude people and such a scary adventure. So very very glad you're both ok!!!!!!!
Thank you. We certainly did learn a lot though, so at least some good came of it.
Sorry for the mishaps 😢. I am thankful you came out of it okay. And thank you for sharing your lessons from your experiences!
You are so welcome! Thanks for watching.
Wow sounds like a rowdy crowd there! Hopefully the next trip will be much more relaxing. ❤️
I am sure it will. Thanks.
I’m so sorry you had to endure all of that ❤
Thank you--we appreciate that.
Pam, I’m glad you’re both safe! This is a learning experience not a failure by any means. It’s a good thing this happened while you were this close to home. I call these “training opportunities “ and nature is the one training y’all how to prepare for a better experience!
I like that terminology! Thank you.
I'm sorry you're trip did not go as planned but it was a great learning experience, not just for you but those of us that watch your video. I am in my seventies and I used to primative camp when I was very young but I have not been camping for decades. I am planning a two week camping trip for September and I will be going about a thousand miles from home but I am meeting people there so I won't be alone. Since all my camping equipment has either dry rotted or never returned home from when my children have used it I am having to buy new. I now have my four season tent and a sleeping bag, good for -30°F, camp tools and my luggable loo. Still have a lot to purchase between now and Sept. After seeing this I think I will do a couple of trial runs this summer in my local state park just to be safe. I don't have a freeze dryer but I have been watching your Rose Red Homestead videos on making meals in a bag, so I will be taking several of those. I really appreciate the detail you go into on your videos, it's so very helpful. Looking forward to more great videos. Thank you so sharing.
I am excited for you! You are doing a great job getting ready and I think it would be a great idea to do some trial runs close to home.
Sounds like a real nightmare! I had the same thing happened to me in Quartzsite Arizona in my clam tent. It’s a 12 x 12 tent and I had it all set up with tables and chairs and everything inside. Then the wind came up and has I was standing inside the top came down and hit me on the head. I ran out just in time before the whole tent and all the stuff inside rolled away. Plain old tent stakes just do not work. It was really frightening! Now I will take it down if it gets over 15 miles an hour wind. And also I put my pick up truck between my class a RV and have it hooked to the pick up truck and the RV and I have extra long stakes that I put into the ground. Life’s lessons are never over! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Someday I’ll have to tell you the story about how a bear went under the bottom of my clam tent and ripped both sides of the tent at 1 o’clock in the morning. I was just ready to walk out the door thinking that the wind was picking it up but it was a bear going inside. I am lucky I looked out the window before I went out.
Yikes!