LET'S SETTLE THIS! Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition VS Xenoblade Chronicles 2!
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- Опубліковано 8 гру 2021
- Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition vs Xenoblade Chronicles 2 on the Nintendo Switch, let's finally settle this....
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I like X the best. The fact theres no falling damage makes your character feel like a superhero especially the way you run and jump.
For an Open World Game it's amazing. But in comparison with XC 1+2 the storytelling sucks hard.
@@nFinity1985 yeah your right story telling wasnt better. It did keep me invested though
This is the correct answer. When it comes to the overall package, X is the superior game in my opinion. Character development was handled through side quests, the story telling wasn't great, but the overall story is interesting and leaves players wanting to know what the hell is going on in Mira. I honestly would have traded in X2 (which I enjoyed) and XC:DE (which is a remake of one of my favourite games of all time) for XCX2. I need that game so badly. A switch port of X would make me happy as well.
fall damage: the definitive decider of a game’s quality
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I enjoyed Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition a bit more, but I do love both games. The second one had a few more annoying aspects to me, like blade skills, that blocked progress artificially sometimes. But the first one is almost perfect to me, with the story, characters, and fun quests! I do think Pyra/Mythra are some of the best characters in the franchise though. I wonder where Xenoblade Chronicles 3 will enter into this conversation when it eventually releases.
If the past is anything to go by, there will be a lot of complaints. There has never been a Xenoblade release where people don't complain about the game somehow.
Well we finally got our first look at it. It seems to take on the DE art style which I like so there’s that.
I would choose Xenoblade Chronicles as it is the JRPG that got me fully into JRPGs, but XC2 is just as good as an argument. The ending of 2 was the most hype I’ve been because it felt like a payoff of playing XC1 first, and in some regards, the combat of 2 is better than 1.
So…both are equal to me, and X is still, imo, their superior.
Me: why not both?
Or why not all three, since X was my favorite out of these three amazing games that are all in my top 20 of all time list out of maybe 3000 games.
No time
No because they have different story’s
We're humans we don't belive in middle ground jk.😭
Aight lemme just settle this once and for all
Xenoblade 1 - *Better story, better characters, better nostalgia factor*
Xenoblade 2 - *Pyra*
Facts.
Xenoblade 2 definitely has better characters tho
That's a funny way to spell Mythra.
@@ShallBePurified but Pneuma is objectively and subjectively better than both of them.
Oppaira
Both are fantastic and I feel that they balance out overall and come out very similar when you take the net of all the pros and cons for both. Personally for me, 2 is what got me into the franchise and I like it more but DE is right behind it.
2 is by no means fantastic
@@philipsparks6089 2 is fantastic to me. My 2nd favorite game of all time right behind mario 64
I first got into Xenoblade back in 2014, when 1 was the only game. It's thanks to chuggaaconroy that I got introduced to it, before Shulk even joined smash. I was obessed. I loved it so much.
When Xenoblade X came out, I got it day one. And I played it literally every single day. I was going through a really bad time in my life and it saved me from suicide. One game held that much power. I made X my life and cared more about my Shulk avatar than I cared for myself.
Xenoblade 2 got announced at Nintendo's switch event and I screamed so hard. I was so happy that we were getting another game. It didn't seem possible but it happened.
Xenoblade X was my favourite game ever and when 2 came out, I was in yet another tragic spot of my life. So just as X, I played it every single day. I loved it. But if I'm honest, I really was just distracted from any flaws. I didn't care, I didn't want to criticize it, I just wanted to play Xenoblade and be happy.
It was my favourite game then. But after Torna came out, which I literally stayed up an entire 48hrs to beat so I didn't get spoiled, eventually I fell off.
I replayed through 2 for like the 4th or 5th time and I started to really notice how flawed it is. How unpolished it is. I never enjoyed the over-sexualized designs but I ignored it back then. But it reallly bugged me. I suddenly just wasn't having fun anymore. I hated Chapter 4. I hating how the pacing was really slow sometimes. I hated how Morag and Zeke got so little screentime compared to Rex and Pyra. I hated how Rex got a lot handed to him and never had to struggle for long before he became OP. (Such as when Jin transforms and we barely get to see him be threatening becuase literally next chapter Rex becomes OP enough to beat him.) I didn't enjoy the game's framerates and really poor resolution. I hated how Nia had a crush on Rex even though it was never once hinted while Melia's was. And I didn't like the ending anymore other than the hope that the new land was a way to connect 1 and 2. 2 started to really grow sour for me.
During this time, I rewatched Chugga's entire 1 playthrough for like the 4th or 5th time. And I just became so much more in love with it again. It brought me comfort. It still gave me chills. It was when I realized, "This is my favourite game."
Boom. After a long time, DE is revealed. And I lose my mind. Finally, 2 fans can actually play it. Finally, so many tiny flaws are fixed along with the really poor wii graphics.
And so, DE is my favourite game of all time. And I don't think that'll change anytime soon. Even though a lot of the cast lacks as much depth as some of the 2 cast has, I don't feel it's needed. The characters are just so strong already from the start. And Shulk is just such an incredible protag. I love the music. I love the world design. I love the story and oh the twists. The ending. It's just something nobody could ever convince me not to love.
Currently I rank X as my 3rd Favourite game, behind Bowser's Inside Story. I wish more people could experience it, it means so much to me. That game easily has the best gameplay in any JRPG or Open World, hands down.
As for 2, it really is in a need for a DE. Otherwise, I'm stuck in this love-hate relationship. Thanks for reading this.
Look XC1 is not a bad game, I really like it but having played XC2 first I just couldn't get into XC1. Yes I know I'm in the minority. XC2 does it for me and I just played XC1 to get the story and finish the game and never looked back. Meanwhile I have 800 hours in XC2 and is my most played game on Switch. To me almost everything in XC2 is better than XC1. Another thing, everyone holds Shulk as such a great protagonist. I played the entire game and I couldn't care less for Shulk, Firoa & Reyn. Dunban is alright. I agree that Rex is far from the greatest but I still prefer him over Shulk. If only he had a different voice but I got accustomed to it. I cared more for XC2's cast than in any other game I can think of. XC2 is a masterpiece for me. The music, world, cast, battle and story to an extent just does it for me. Meanwhile I cannot for the life of me finish Future Connected. I tried several times and just keep quitting. Really really want an opportunity to play XCX on Switch one day.
Future connected wasnt very fun at all tho lol
I think the gameplay of XC1 'seems' simple but is actually incredibly complex. I played both games when they first came out (2010 - 2017); XC1 is my absolute favorite game of all time, and XC2 is an amazing game with great characters and solid world and music.
People say Shulk is cocky and the only character that the game spends time on, when that is not how he is portrayed at all. He is very humble in the game so I don't get where people are coming from on this one. Fiora was literally dead at a big portion of the game is the main driver (haHaa lol) of the story plot. How is that not tragic and interesting? Reyn is a juxtaposed by being displayed as this meathead who is also very protective and caring. Dunban give you a glimpse of what if feels like to lose family, and how strong you should be to keep living. All the other characters bring very complex subplots to the story for you to get to know and love them. I don't really see how people can hate them. Even Riki (who I hated at first) turned out to be a dad who can relate to what happening and acts a comic releaf to easy the burden on everyone.
I think the online debate of which game is better might have tainted your experience with XC1. I am glad you love XC2 though.
@@GameTimeNLL I agree FC was really bad
@@GameTimeNLL The boredom is why I keep quitting. It’s just not keeping me interested. As a Xenoblade fan I must finish it though, one of these good days.
@@xord5293 Definitive was my most anticipated game when it was announced. Before I played this game I never read anything negative about it. I also usually like to go in blind like I did with XC2 so unless I finish the game I don't look at too much info on it. Nothing was tainted for me is what I'm saying. I was 100% excited for the game. Also please don't get me wrong I don't hate the game. Far from it, I think it's a good game. However I do agree I was spoiled by XC2 just like how BotW spoiled a lot of other games for me. Concerning Fiora, the game introduces her and before you know it that 'something' happened to her. Umm am I supposed to care? They never allowed me to care for her so I couldn't. In XC2 by the time that event happened with Mythra at the end I more than cared for her. I don't want to go further into things that rubbed me the wrong way with XC1 because it would appear that I hate the game which is not true. But the bottom line is I didn't care for majority of the cast in XC1 because to me the development was just not there. I am glad you and many others enjoyed the cast. One thing I think we can all agree on is the music is astounding in both games.
Xenoblade 2 for me. Loved the blades system
Xenoblade DE feels more like a well thought out product. Xenoblade 2 feels a bit random at times, probably because they had such a small team and had to outsource and collaborate with many different artists.
2,5 years for 2, X took 6 years after 1 to release, the game was rushed and understaffed
@@fieldkaiju but Zelda was so good, and IMO worth Monolith not really paying much mind to XC2.
That would explain why some Blades feel authentic and well thought-out and others look like garbage that fetishists from deviant art/pixiv slapped together.
@Nhat Anh Hoang Yeah, 3 characters isn't anywhere near as bad as an entire blade cast (Wulfric is best boy though) that is literal fan service for incels, weebs and lonely dudes. It's also a pedo baiting game...Again, Dunkey don't lie. And you think the stuff with Almalthus was deep lol. XC2 wasn't good until Torna came out...Torna is good XC2
@Nhat Anh Hoang I mean 1 tackled homicide and bodily horror and manipulation creating living breathing mechon pilots. The second half of the game was very gruesome, especially what happens to shulk and the High Entia. Id say both are equally dark. 2 didn't give me the same feeling of hopeless despair the way 1 did.
Both games are great. But i think enjoyment wise it just goes to what game you played first. Like xenoblade 2 is my favorite game of all time. It got me into this great series, but I know it has flaws. But every xenoblade game is very great.
I like both Games Honestly, both have great storylines, it’s hard to make a choice
I played Xenoblade 1 first but ultimately, I liked Xenoblade 2 more, so it's not just whichever game you started with. It just depends on which game clicks with you more. There are people who couldn't get into 2, and people who couldn't get into 1, and a lot of people who can't play X because it's stuck on a Wii U.
Nah I don’t think it necessarily has to do with which game you played first. My first entry in the Xenoblade series was XCX back in 2015 and fast forward to now having played every title in the Xenoblade series it’s actually my 3rd favorite (XC1 then followed by XC2). At the end of the day it’s just what the game has to offer to each individual player that allows them to resonate strongly or weakly to each title in the series. Also this is no disrespect to XCX either as I think it’s still the most unique Xenoblade Chronicles title and has by far the best gameplay/exploration, just story wise, characters, music, etc I think the other games outshine it
@@ShallBePurified Coudnt have said it better myself
@@ShallBePurified well idk for me that's how it is. I guess I cant speak for everyone though your right. It's just the memories I have with 2 are so good and cant be topped. The feelings and the music the story all of it hit so hard and I dont know if I can enjoy 1 as much as 2. So yes 2 just clicked with me like you said
Both games are equally perfect.
I have a preference for XCDE over XC2.
But they both complement each other very well especially with where both games lift each other up.
XCDE made XC2 better while XC2 made XCDE better. (If you know why they both raise each other up that’s why.) {Alvis}
Xenoblade 2 is definitely my favourite, I started with 2 and then played definitive but I latched on to 2 much more than 1, both still fantastic though, also torna is fantastic
Coming from someone who played XC1 before 2...
XC2 is my favorite game ever.
Xeno 2. Not even close. Blades in 2 were amazing period
The whole thing with the battle system not being explained properly in Xenoblade 2 really ruined the experience for me.
I really wanted to enjoy that game a lot more, so I think I'm going to replay the whole game from the beginning, making sure I know what to do by looking up guide.
You won't regret giving it another chance. It really is an amazing game, bogged down by horrible tutorials.
I kid you not Xenoblade 2 became INCREDIBLE once you actually understand the combat 😂
This is one of the questions I had when I started overviewing what games I plan to get at first when I get my Switch. Thank you! 😅
Xenoblade Chronicles 2, hands down.
Xenoblade Definitive edition was pretty good for a remake.
The next Xenoblade Chronicles game needs to implement the best from every Xenoblade game thus far.
Imagine someone waiting for the anniversary of a game, and then making a cringe video of throwing it on the ground and flipping it off. And then when the fans understandably show how immature this act was, this person gets offended that he’s receiving backlash. Man, what a world we live in
Imagine being so petty to purposefully make fans of a game upset on the game's anniversary to boost their own ego.
Wait, the creator made this just to start a flame war and is freaking out people are pissed? Where is all of this going down lol
@@chooongusbug724 It was on Twitter. Not worth getting involved.
@@ShallBePurified I wasn't gonna but that's funny
I loved XC:DE and I'm currently 55 hours in to 2.
2 is a great game so far, but I feel like I'm constantly in and out of menus. Merc missions finishing, changing blades for field skills, checking affinity chart skills / unlocks etc. I think that aspect could have been streamlined a lot better.
Have you finished the game?
@@preci9938 Yeah I finished it, also played Torna after :) Not moved on to 3 yet, but I have it.
Pros:
You can own Xenoblade 1 and 2
Cons: Xenoblade 3 isn't out yet
Pro: It was announced yesterday
I prefer XC2. The characters are just so compelling and the combat is so much fun and only gets better the more you play. I don't care if the voice acting is a little weird, I got used to it right away. I also think the dlc and prequel really give the game so much more than xenoblade chronicles 1.
Again, my opinion, and I like both, but I love XC2. Never finished X.
I'm playing Xenoblade 2 for the first time and enjoying it way more than 1, but in terms of story and characters for me Xenogears trumps all the other Xenos together. My favorite game of all time
I feel the same way. Although torna is my favorite combat wise. Xenogears had the best story period.
Absolutely, Xenogears is a masterpiece. Also dig 2 so much more than 1 btw. There are a ton of things that piss me off in the XCDE, while there's close to none on XC2. Maybe some of tutorials but, idk, I never had many issues with them to begin with.
Torna represent! Such a good game, and compliments XC2 so well.
Oh and that ending too!
Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition has the better story progression arc and world building. However, XC2 has the better combat system regarding the blades. In all I'll leaning for the first game
haha this video is very relevant for me right now as I literally just beat XC 1 like 2 days ago! I havent played XC 2 yet but im really hoping I'll enjoy it even more then the first game because I fell in love with the characters, setting, music of the first one and am excited to play the second one and Torna aswell.
I love all three Xenoblades a ton but I think XC2 is definitely my favorite. The story and themes really go above and beyond, the different topics it handles such as how people view being remembered and trying to find some goal in life, and how the different characters' personal life philosophies clash throughout the plot, are all really interesting, and I think some of the character development (such as Rex, Pyra/Mythra, and especially Jin) is beautiful. The ending of the base game and of Torna: The Golden Country are the most emotional I have gotten from any game. I love the gameplay too, it's pretty complex but once you get it down you feel so smart and the long team combos are super satisfying. Again, I love the first game (and X) too but for me XC2 really just kinda does everything I want.
Fax’s
XC 2 is my favorite the best, XC- 3 is confusing 😅for me
What I tend to notice is that which ever game you played first, ends up being your favorite most of the time. I played XC first and like that more but I have a friend who played XC2 first and he likes that more. But at the end of the day we can agree that both are fantastic games and are better than XCX
I played 1 first and I like 2 more
I actually played 2 first and I prefer 1 more 😅
I play 1 first but i like 2 ways more
I like X the best. Heh. But I’d go with DE. It’s a bit more polished.. though I liked Rex.
XC2 has kept in for 200+ hrs for its gameplay so id say XC2 is my favorite but in terms of plot XCDE.
Xenoblade 1 had better story pacing but Xenoblade 2 had a stronger personal impact.
It all comes down to opinions. People can argue which game has the better story, but ultimately, it's whichever game has more personal value to you. Neither story is strictly better because they are very different. Xenoblade 1 taught me how great video games can be at telling a great story, and it set the standard for me. Xenoblade 2 hit me hard on a personal level I didn't expect it to, and it made a lasting impression on me.
"It all comes down to opinions."
Finally. Thank god, there are persons who actually understand the concept of subjectivity! You made me regain trust in humanity.
If I had to pick a favorite, it would have to be XC-2's base game, but I haven't played XC-X yet. For me, the story and the battle mechanics are what I loved the most. I also had a lot of fun collecting all the remaining blades on my second and third playthrough and appreciate that the game had so much content that I could play it that many times and still have fun. I played XC-2 and Torna before XC-1 and Future Connected, so I think that is affecting how I rank them. If I had played them in chronological order, then I might have loved XC-1 more than I do. I think you can't go wrong with any game from the series tho, They're all amazing!
Before watching-
XBC1: Better story, map and Character development.
XBC2: Better gameplay, party dynamic and villains.
both games had me feelin sad, happy, shocked and entertained, but going by gameplay alone I have to go with 2, music was good on both games and I cant really choose, my overall favorite character is Morag despite her lack of screen time.
I personally feel like there's way more character development in 2 than in 1. Your party members barely change at all during the entire playthrough... You get some info and arcs based on their pasts and you could kinda count that as character development, but in the end they are the exact same characters during the whole game.
I think the first one have more interesting mechanic and story but everything is wrapped around only Shulk if he not around most of the mechanics fell shallow compare to other game and with a quite long game like this make it less variety and two the overall mechanics is more hooked than the first but make getting some good blade with random chance is not good but so many quests that get you a fix blade also exist to me it’s just how dev try to pad the runtime if they can adjust to more interesting way I believe the sequel is way better to play and replay it.
You’re absolutely right that Torna is the best of both! The combat was awesome (and I think that’s what I’m most excited for in XC3).
Love your videos, man.
Take care and stay well, OJ ✌️
I played XC1 when it first came out on the Wii. My favorite game of all time.
I played XC2 when it first came out too, great game with amazing characters, gameplay, and sountrack.
XC2 for sure, most of the characters (including blades) are lovable. Combat was a bit complicated and hard at first but once you master it, it is one of the best combat system on RPG. Overall, XC2 is soooooooooooooooooooooo good
It's pretty funny how in this comment section many people seem to like 2 more because of the emotional impact it left on them, but personally, while it was my first game in the series and I had a lot of hype when I bought the game on release, I ended up not being affected much by it. Yes the story was pretty incredible, but also very chaotic, and the many plot twists were what really keep me on toe at the time, but in the end it didn't resonate with me that much. I just found that there was a lot of bullshit in this story, and the end was completely anticlimactic. The final boss was audio visually stunning, but really I was not really into the fight because of the fact we are really just fighting someone blinded by Amalthus hatred for humanity, that no words, even if they are senseful, can reason. It's not my only gripe with the game and while I still have really good memories of it, of the 140h I have put in my first playthrough of it, it's right now the game I like the least in the series. I then played Torna, still on release, and loved it a lot, the Torna titan was beautiful, I liked the cast more than in the main game (Jin is one of my most hated character in the main game while I found him really enjoyable in Torna), I liked Addam more as a main character than Rex, I liked the story more, the combat system more, the quest more, and even it's short length. I immediately put it well above the main game.
Then I played Xenoblade 1 at release and from the start I was hooked. I started the game blind though, with no prior knowledge of it, but I immediately was so hooked on the scenario and the characters, and it lasted until the end, with the exception of one moment on Mechonis where I found the pacing was a bit too slow for my liking. The intro of Xenoblade 1 is so perfect each time I play it I get chills.
Music of 2 is excellent, but I prefer the style of 1 better. Torna's jazz was also really great and blend well with the mix.
Graphically they are all excellent but Torna was probably the most advanced one overall, which is pretty logical.
Gameplay of 2 is really slow to start and overwhelming at the end, I never quite got along with it, while I loved the take of Torna on it. I liked 1's combat system more than 2, but probably around Torna.
In a side note I also played around 10 hours of Xenogears and still have to continue it, but I like it a lot right now, even though many things are still quite mysterious right now. And I still have to start X someday.
I've purchased the first Xenoblade Chronicles a total of three separate times at this point (on the Wii, New 3DS and now the definitive edition on Switch). That said, I still feel like the original was a fantastic RPG but for sure was the lesser of the three main entries (with Torna and Future Connected under the umbrella of their parent games respectively).
I had never finished the original Xenoblade until now on the Switch. The quality of life improvements really went a long way and I can't imagine having the patience to figure out those obscure side quests even way back when I actually had some reasonable free time on my hands. Though I'm starting Future Connected this weekend, I really really loved the Torna expansion and considering how much more I liked 2 before that was even part of the package, Future Connected is gonna have to kill it to move the needle for me.
X is still my favorite by a country mile tho and Nintendo should at least try to pay more attention what people want: Real talk, X was what sold the Wii U for an enormous quantity of Nintendo's player base.
*Edit*
Obviously, this is just, like, my opinion man. Xenoblade is tied with Dragon Quest for my current favorite JRPG series and I'll probably buy whatever TF Nintendo greenlights from Monolith Soft. That studio deserves so much more attention than it's currently given.
I like both games equally, and I hope to be able to play X one day. In certain situations, where one game falls, the other succeeds. Both are relatively equal in their expansive worlds. While Definitive Edition had the better final boss, 2 had the better DLC.
Xenogears is still the best in the series.
Heck yea, can't wait to watch this. I've played both, but more of 1. Havnt beaten either, but I am liking 1 better so far.
i prefer 2 because of the anime style and i prefer the party + the blade system, but both are my 2 favourite switch games
This may be a hot take, but I really did not enjoy XC2 as much as many others did. I still feel the story, setting and characters in the first game was much more stronger than 2. While 2 has it's moments, I just found the overall story to be less intriguing, characters like Rex and Tora was annoying.
I can hear the Xenoblade 2 fans getting their blades ready for you already...
Fully agree.
@Nhat Anh Hoang Personally Rex's hard life didn't impacted me neither did he seem to bother Rex. He was too upbeat and too much of a boy scout if that makes sense. He always looked at the bright side of things. Like the first scene he accidentally caught a crabble instead of treasure, he was fine with it cuz he could at least eat the crabble. There was no sense of struggle as you make it out to be. He's no desperate boy and they probably should've made him one in the beginning.
@Nhat Anh Hoang I never said he wasn't lonely. He never felt lonely because the game never emphasized it especially since he was satisfied with having gramps. Like I said the way you describe Rex isn't actually how he feels. As far as we see, his past or current situation never effected his emotions negatively. His village looked after him after his parents died and he was only like 3. As far as he's concerned, his whole village is his family.
@Nhat Anh Hoang The story never shown he was "hiding" his lonliness. There was never a time where he admitted to being lonely, so it was never a problem to begin with. You're just projecting that onto his character. Literally his only flaw is that he's naive and that doesn't make a realistic character. He's just not a complex character. How can I feel bad for a character when they don't even feel bad or don't have self-destructive behavior?
the perfect xenoblade chronicles 3 would be
Xenoblade 1 kind of story
Xenoblade Torna combat and level of comedy
Xenoblade 2 music and sidequests
Xenoblade X world map
100% agree! If we actually get a game like this omg I would never stop playing it 😂
XC2 for me - battle system is a whole lot more better. I also liked the story more on 2..and the characters and the music.
I replayed XDE but once you already know the battle system, there's not much else to it - I already stopped replaying quarter way
I could finish XC2 the third time no problem because the battle system is so intricate you can do a lot of things with it.
Both amazing. 2 was my personal fave. Probably because it was my first.
Both! My favorite RPG series!
Definitive does certain things better as does xc2. Both brilliant games with their own strengths
I still don't know why they decided to to make the blades gacha instead of like putting specific rare blades in chests or something.
But yeah as frustrating XC2 was at some points for me, I like XC2 more that XC1. As much as I like 1, sometimes it felt too linear and the side characters didn't play that large of a role outside of when they were introduced. Made them feel like extras.
I know now that the developers can reflect on both these games and make XC3 even more of a masterpiece.
Replay value.
Just beat xeno 2 and I have to say, once I learned the combat, it blows the definitive editions combat out of the water for me. More weighty, moving is intentional and there are abilities like raising evasion or healing while moving, but you aren't attacking when you move so it's awesome to decide when to do what strategically. Going back to the first game feels mediocre now lol
To me it felt like if you didn't have sharla or sulk in the party you would just die. When you get more anti mechon weapons the shulk dependency pretty much stops but I still didn't like how restrictive it felt.
I think overall I like 2 more. The combat was more enjoyable, the party mixing (anyone could be a healer), the world building and size.The only con I would give it is how dense they made rex at times (THAT moment with Nia comes to mind 🙄, like bro you can't be that stupid).
"I had this really big fancy shmancy video..."
Yeah, I think I've heard enough to not care anymore...
XC1 is 90s anime, XC2 is modern anime.
This extends to the actual gameplay too, with XC1 being spiritually similar to 90s-early 2000s JRPGs and XC2 being the more complex/"overdesigned" JRPGs that came out after the PS3.
Xenoblade 2 for me. My first xenoblade game
That's such a tough choice....2 came at such a good time in my life, 1 I recently finished and my life was ok, but X, it came during one of the toughest times in my life and helped me quite a bit. With that said, Xenoblade Chronicles 2.
It's not even a contest, XB2 ALL THE WAY!!!
By faaaar XC2. Its funnier, biggest areas, equal or better ost and the best combat system of any JRPG.
X2 has a better battle system hands down. It may seem “complex”, but it’s very simple and straightforward once you understand it. When that happens, it’s a matter of chaining orbs and the right ones with your team. It becomes a matter of battle strategy. Do you seal self destruction or stop reinforcements? Quick! Run to the side for your next art. The gotcha mechanic of the blades has never been a problem for me. It makes sense within the story and a great surprise to see who you get, whether you like them or not. 😀
Torna’s vanguard battle system makes sense because you don’t have the option and story length/scope to search for new blades being a DLC and all. It is a condense version of X2’s battle system. It’s intense and great for a shorter game overall. However, it lacks variety for the longer main game without the blade option.
As for X1… that’s a mess. The UI is clunky. Picking an art is a chore, and I am not sure how effective some members really are. Story wise, they are both great. Can’t say which is “better” per sae, but I do like the cast in X2 more. They seem more developed.
Edit: haven’t played X yet, so can’t say much about it aside I hope they port it and add in all the parts they removed in the original release like the Ghosts’ sections.
Tell me you're an XC2 fanboy without telling me you're an XC2 fanboy
@@chooongusbug724 Contrary to your belief, I see XC1 and 2 as two sides of the same coin literally and figuratively. They are both amazing games, but better together.
Fiora is by far my favourite character to play as in both XC1 and 2. Future connected tied up Melina’s story with her sister lovingly. The best side quests are in Torna and not in XC2. They are interwoven tighter together than even those in Future Connected (which came technically after). And if you are interested in the same thematic ideas Takahashi and Saga have been exploring in all their xeno series, Mythra is a masterful embodiment of that. Shulk is a very close second. I can’t wait to see what happens in XC3.
But as I stated before, XC1 has a horrible UI. That in itself is the major factor if I have to compare them as video games objectively. But without XC1’s clunky UI, I doubt they would have developed XC2’s.
@@No-One-Important-Here yeah, you think menus and tutorials that were poorly optimized were good. You get tutorials in XC2 literally until the final boss, but yes...XC2 and it's terrible menus are very well optimized lol
@@chooongusbug724 I could care less about selection menus and such. I am talking about clunky gameplay UI. I had to double check if I was choosing the right art in XC1 all the time, especially for Shulk.
As for tutorials, I didn’t have any problem with them providing an explanation for a gameplay element that is only used for the last boss fight before that fight. I would have forgotten it if they had done so earlier when we first crashed on Gormont.
And it’s ok if we disagree. Neither of us is right or wrong 😉
@@No-One-Important-Here so, you ignore things that bog down XC2...Like a fanboy? Good to know
Definitive Edition for sure, mang
It’s really tough to decide which is the best because they are both very good games! Personally I’d prefer XC2 since I spent much more time in it, it has better combat and characters. While XC1 has a significantly superior story. And both games have god tier music.
In my opinion I would say that if you get Xenoblade 2 with the DLC I honestly believe that it’s better. However if you don’t get the DLC Xenoblade 1 is better.
I honestly feel like xenoblade 1s story as a whole is better but there are specific points in 2 such as chapter 8 and onwards where in my opinion the level of story surpasses the original, it just upsetringly very few. But i absolutly agree with the characters and combat.
@@gastar805 yeah, xc2 combat becomes super fun and fast paced in the post game imo, it’s also quite customisable, post game xc1 combat is literally just topple locking and it get boring after a bit. Also, the DLC in Xc2 allows you to push the combat to its absolute limits with the bringer of chaos challenges and Elma redux which is super cool.
XC1 is the better story, but I liked XC2 more overall.
For me Xc2 and XC1 are really close but 2 edges out for me. I prefer the combat, narrative, themes, and characters more than 1. It has a more deep and rich narrative with interesting themes that I can go on and on about. The characters also have more screen time which leads to them being more fleshed out. Combat has a lot more to do which I enjoy compared to 1's which feels a bit lackluster.
I have not played 2 and only have gone through about a third of Definitive Edition but I can 100% agree regarding the gem crafting. It definitely does feel cumbersome and kind of overwhelming. I see there are bonuses to do it but it also feels strangely detached from progression. I think I would have preferred the different types and levels just being discoverable instead finding a million of the same thing so you can craft something better. The implementation inadvertently de-values the items you find and it doesn’t take very long to lose interest in the mechanic.
I do really enjoy the story and the bigness of the world but it has felt a lot more linear so far than I anticipated.
If the characters weren’t completely over sexualized, and some of the mechanics with blades and the gacha system were better I think it would be a lot closer. But XC1 by a quite a bit as is imo
I loved the time I spent on 2. I only finished Xenoblade 3DS and I loved that version specifically because of the fact that it is a huge world in a tiny cartridge. I prefer 1 over 2 and the 3DS version over the definitive of 1.
1 feels more polished than 2. 2 had many things going for it but it felt like it had too much and I think they were better off letting go of the gacha mechanic and just focused on meaningful quests to obtain the blades. To be fair Torna was a very solid experience and I loved it.
You prefer the new 3DS version of Xenoblade Chronicles over the Switch version?? Have you actually played it on Switch, it's way better. I had the 3DS version but it was way too hard to see everything.
@@fruity7886 Oh definitely. I did finish it on the 3DS and played the switch version until prior to falling on the legs of the Mechonis. I know the switch version has quality of life and the characters are all pretty but I kinda like the charm of the old art. I also find it amazing that a huge open world game with an epic story fits on a device as tiny as the 3DS.
2's development was a mess and 1's had a lot less issues just from the teams not splitting up for multiple projects. BOTW is the reason why 2's overworld, mapping, and design is jankier than 1.
Loved the Swerve with the Golden Golden Country at the end. I laughed out loud. I liked the Gameplay Torna the best. But I likde X2 the best out of all of them IF Xenoblade X is not included, Because that is my favorite Xenoblade game overall and Favorite game of all-time. Last point is Xenoblade Pt 1 or Def Ed. is my least favorite by far.
I like them all, 2 i like most, including the blades and the gacha mechanic, torna i like the least
Overall I prefer XC2 over XC1 DE, and the reason is... let's put it this way. In XC1 DE, I only care about some of the characters in the game. In XC2, I care about all of them. I feel like the characters in XC2 stand out a lot more, they have more personal stories and growth, and they all interact with each other really well.
The story as well. In XC1 DE, there are many pauses in the story that I felt like not going through with the story, and just wait a bit, or do the side quests, or just grind. In XC2, the story just keeps moving. I always feel like I want to know what happens next, until the very end.
As for graphics and gameplay, both have their own pros and cons, that I felt like they are both great in their own way. Though for character design, I felt more towards XC2, but that is just me.
I prefer the story of 2 over all because of the characters and world but I don’t agree that xb1 story had pauses and that xb2 kept moving, I think the biggest flaw of 2 is it’s really bad pacing especially in chapter 4 where the story goes nowhere and the overall plot can feel like one big fetch quest where you go from character to character telling that this other character can get you to the world tree, the only . I don’t think 1’s story is perfect and I think 1 in general is overrated but I’d be lying if I said I preferred the actual *plot* of 2 more than 1 (I put plot characters and world in the word “story”)
@@Luma_64 Fair enough.
Also I only care about a few characters in 2 like I only care about a few characters and in 1, melia is still my favorite character in the franchise
Xenoblade 2 had multiple pauses to the story, such as the entirety of chapter 4 and parts of chapter 5 and 6. 2 has really slow pacing during those chapters. It doesn't pick up until the very end of Tantal.
Xenoblade 1 on the other hand had a slight pause in Alcamoth but I don't see anywhere else in the game where it slows down other than Fallen Arm, but that was much needed just as Chapter 8 in 2 was.
Keep in mind, I've played both off them tons of times. 2, 6 times. 1, not sure how many but probably even more than 6 times.
@@MeliariMelody I think 1's story suffers due to the lack of pauses in the story. It didn't feel like the characters needed times to rest, understand each other, or ground themselves and reflect for a moment. It always tends to push for an epic adventure thing regardless of how excessive all of the action or twists really are getting.
IMO, XC1 is the best JRPG since 2010 until now
Imo even one of the best executed games ever.
I actually can’t pick between XDE of XC2! I just know I like XCX more! 😂
Xenoblade chronicles 2 for me was better, especially the 'Earth bit' below the clouds. It really felt like his past game - Xenogears.
Sounds like OJ doesn’t know about stutter stepping for XC2 🤷🏽♀️
Why not both ?
There is a very way to end this. Let's settle this in Smash!
Xenoblade 2 for me
I love both but I prefer xenoblade chronicles 2. Xenoblade chronicles 1 is really good but I prefer the combat and world of xenoblade chronicles 2.
XC2 is my favorite by a decent margin and I've played all three.
xenoblade 2 is the best for sure. Both are like 9.5/10 games for me but i just love xenoblade 2 more.
I feel like you didnt pick between xenoblade 1 and xenoblade 2 😆
Torna is definitely great but i was curious about your main game opinions
I prefer Xenoblade Chronicles definitive edition personally. I played the original back on the Wii while looking for open world games. It was a bit pricey at the time ($80 iirc), but it was definitely worth it. It's the only game for me aside from twewy where I'd say "yeah I would've paid more for this game" if I got it at lower price.
The story pulled me in right away after the mechon attack, and subverted my expectations multiple times. This game uses gameplay to tell the story too. I also think the first Xenoblade has the better soundtrack.
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is a game I really liked, but it didn't live up to my own expectations from Xenoblade 1. The combat, just like the story, has the problem of "it doesn't get good until later". And I think the combat suffers more because of the awful tutorials. But there's a lot of characters in Xenoblade Chronicles 2, and they're very fun and I like them, except for Rex. Rex just waters down the experience for me. Oh, The rare unique blades have their own side stories too, and unfortunately I think many skipped out on those. Shame since they're fun, and with cutscenes!
The thing that kept me from liking Xenoblade 2 as much as the first were: the story pacing, slow pacing in general, awful tutorials, rex, terrible main objective directions, some things were done in cutscenes instead of in-game (Myhtra's foresight, and canonically losing a battle when you won in-game, for example).
That's my own take on things.
Can of worms officially opened lol! Personally I never like getting into this topic because it can get pretty toxic because some people internalize, "I like X game better," as "I think the other game sucks and has no redeeming value whatsoever." Personally, I have things I like better with each of the games.
I like the Voice Acting in XC1 more simply because XC1 had better overall voice direction than XC2 did on the whole. I also think XC1 has the stronger opening act, making it the easier game to get emotionally invested in. XC1 also has an easier to understand game interface and combat is a heck of a lot easier to grasp initially.
On XC2's side of things, I think the characters are deeper and more fully developed than XC1's cast. They have more pronounced and nuanced character arcs and I was definitely more invested in their stories than I was in XC1's cast. I also think while XC1 has the better opening, XC2 has the more compelling ending for me. XC2's combat is also more complex and it feels better to master than XC1 where I never felt that I needed to change my play style at all for.
There are a variety of factors that I can weigh as to what aspects I think one did better than the other, but ultimately I think it all comes down to which overall experience did I enjoy playing more. For me that is the total package of XC2 and Torna the Golden Country, but if you like what XC1 brought to the table more, then that's fine too so long as you don't crucify anyone who has a different opinion. Shock of all shocks, it is even okay if XCX is your favorite XC game. That is a completely valid opinion.
2 has too many things that bog down the adventure, from a terrible waypoint, tutorials, slower basic combat, Indoline being the worst chapters in the game and other small things that keep the game from being 100% polished. 8/10. XB:DE on the other hand is a 10/10
I have put more hours in XB2 (and Torna) than the rest combined.
There is more replay value in XB2, more tools to create your own fun (see difficulty slider and nuzlocke style gameplay with NG+ made by the community)
The story hits hard, and still brings a tear to my eye in that final chapter.
So XB2 gets my pic.
That isnt to say the others are bad by comparison. Not at all.
XB1 is still a fantastic game and DE improved much of jank found in the original.
The only thing I wished DE changed was the combat, Sharla is a good character with horrible gameplay design. Melia must be controlled by the player, and to a degree Riki has similar AI issues.
These issues limit party choices and is very frustrating.
X is probably the best open world game I have ever played.
What holds X back is the story, it very much feels fragmented or salved from a grander plan that was cut for time. The ending doesnt help here. If it got a full remake with a coherent story it would easily be one of the best games around.
In terms of story, to me the best is XC1. In terms of gameplay, content and fun my absolute favorite is XCX.
I tried my best to like XC2. I literally got into the franchise because I wanted to play 2 but I patiently went through 1 first and it became one of my favorite games of all time. After putting 70 hours in XC2 I decided it was time to quit. Nothing worked for me, except the combat, which is fantastic and Morag. Aside from that everything is a downgrade IMO.
I only played the definitive edition and I love it!! I have 2 and the expansion physical copies just chilling waiting for me to play them. I'm still confused on which I'm supposed to play first lol maybe after smt 5 I'll dig into that.
Definitely play the base game first or the DLC will spoil things from the main story. Then play Torna and you'l appreciate the base game's story and characters all the more.
@@Julio3324 alrite cool thanks man. Gotta see what all this pyra hype is all about. Definitely a fun character to play in smash bros. At least for me.
Xeno Chron 2 battle system is hugely confusing and very complicated with ahuge earning curve. But once it is mastered is is majorly rewarding. no more boring fights, u r paying attention all over the place at what is hapenig and what to do during battle. Very aweosme. but I did not master it until probably 15 or 20 hours nto the game. 90 hours in and I am only on chapter 5 too, HUGE game if u decide to fuly explore stuff.
I refuse to choose each are great
I give it to DE for a few reasons based on a bit more of a serious, epic adventure akin to a Star Wars or Fellowship of the Ring style travel-battle-event story cycle. XC2 has this but I think it veers more into a Disney-ish, Shonen Anime approach, which personally I fell in love with, but I was more captivated and moved by XCDE. I personally feel that XC2 is way overly criticized and hated by people who probably didn't get super deep into the game, which can be seen as a fault of XC2, but I still think there is an incredibly memorable game and story within the package.
I just started the first but plan to play both games
love both games, battle systems more fun for me in 2 you can do a lot more in it. and story is great for both. exploration both fall short of X, and the amazing dolls tbh.
Torna was awesome, especially playing after XC2
Xenoblade 2 for me. All great games though.
The music and combat in XC2 is wayyy better than XC1, and the characters were more charming. They both do everything else excellently.
Music was composed by the same person and had really similar composition??? You could prefer it, but "wayyy" better naahhhh
I Love All three Xenoblade’s but XENOGEARS Hands Down.
So Xenoblade Chronicles is one of my favorites series of all-time and I don’t think there is a bad one. That being said I would actually have to agree on a lot of points.
1’s story and character development I believe was great. The writing was so good and the world building was phenomenal. I liked the customization of the arts you could assign to your characters. I didn’t mind the gem system but I can get why people would. I do believe pouch items and chip modifications in 2 was a better alternative.
2 simplified the arts down a bit, going from 8 to 4 but also not cutting back on what you can do because of the blade system and you could essentially have 12 arts. Combat was more fun with the blade combos. Obtaining the rare blades was awful though, I didn’t care for them (but the blade quests were good imo).
Now what Torna did was take what 2 did and scale it back and I think it hit the nail of the head. Rather than what seemed like hundreds of pouch items you had crafting skills each member of your party could do and it was like 15 max (or each) per, much more manageable and streamlined. The Vangaurd system I also prefer too and reducing blades from 3 to 2 and blades from like 40+ to 6 I think did wonders. Now I believe you could do more, maybe have an additional party member or two and hence some more blades. Get the writing and character development from XB1, the character interactions from XB2 and put that into Torna’s formula but make it a bigger game like 1 or 2 and I think you got the perfect Xenoblade
I will add XC2 was a little too fan service-y & anime tropey. They should scale that back. Sure XC1 had its "jiggle physics" but that never had me roll my eyes. Torna didn't have anything that came to mind to be that bad. A small thing but things you did hear about. Just go with some more natural proportions and don't draw overwhelming attention to it. Just my opinion (I still enjoyed the games regardless because I'm not obsessed with those things like a lot of people seemed to be but they did go over the top in 2, I can admit that
@Nhat Anh Hoang not as bad though
@Nhat Anh Hoang the point of Shulk sparing Mumkhar was to show Shulk's growth and realizing just getting revenge wasn't gonna solve anything. Mumkhar wasn't killed for the plot, he was killed because he didn't learn that lesson, that he was still driven by petty revenge and it lead to his demise. It was a contrast between the two paths and showing how revenge consumes you till it inevitably leads to your downfall. Also, at that point the party surpassed Mumkhar, so he wasn't a threat to the colony. It went down to Shulk because he's their leader and they all trusted his decision.
As for Rex, well his journey was different from Shulk's and he was a different person. His was about growing up and becoming someone people could depend on. Whether he'd kill Mumkhar....he wasn't put in that situation. He doesn't kill needlessly, he spared people. I guess the closest situation would be Bana and he didn't kill him, Bana committed suicide, but they were gonna let him be arrested. So idk how cut & dry him letting Mumkhar go is. (the situations aren't 1:1 so the possibility is still there)
I really love Xenoblade Chronicles 2 the best. The world is amazing with all the different cultures, the colors,... the characters are great and I love the story, it really stayed with me after playing it. I liked Xenoblade Chronicles : Definitive Edition and I think the story flows better in terms of pacing but it was not as memorable as a whole as 2 for me and the characters were in general not that interesting to me. Every time I see pictures of Xenoblade Chronicles 2 I have a big smile on my face and it's one of my favourite games of all time.
the first one without a doubt. To me, it has a better story and more charismatic hero. But at the end what matter is i couldn't finish xenoblade 2, first try i give up at chapter 5 and the second time at chapter 8. And i'm not gonna judge torna as i never played it
My favorite one is always the one I've replayed last