The insane tone of a VOX FULL STACK may SURPRISE you!
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- I'm playing a completely amazing 1965 Vox AC50 full stack with 1964 Celestion T530 Alnico Blues using a 2021 Fender Telecaster 60 CS Relic and a 2008 Gibson Les Paul R9. This is one of the best and most vintage sounding rigs I have played. I completely LOVE IT!!
used by Noel Gallagher, and also the brilliant Frank "Poncho" Sampedro in Crazyhorse with Neil Young.
This technic of recording the ambience sound really natural and also spectacular!!!Great!
Thanks, glad you like it. Yeah I’m panning the close mic 30% left, the room mic 50% right and the hallway mic 95% right
Hi Johan!
Really love that sound. Despite of very bad situation in Israel, where I live, this video was good support!
See you!
S.
Hi Siegfried, I’m glad you like the tone. I was heartbroken to see what had happened to your fellow countrymen. It’s beyond words. Take care man. See you
Sending prayers to Israel and thank you Johan for cheering up so many during hard times. ❤️ from USA 🇺🇸
@@mitchellferre1652 Thanks, brother!
That sounds amazing. The impact of speakers is huge too. I have a very cheap Vox AC4 head from about a decade or so ago. Through a 4 by 12 it sounds amazing. Through 1 by 12 it's dreadful.
Keep up the great work!
Thanks glad you like it!
Re. Speakers surviving. An AC30 turned all the way up can output perhaps 40 watts or more. A couple of blues only handle 30 watts on paper, but can hang in there - most of the time.
A 100 watt Superlead from the Plexi era can reach about 140 watts when dimed. Old Greenbacks only handled 20 watts, so the amp needed eight of them, i.e., a couple of 4x12s for a total of 160 watts power handling. Even then they could blow.
I read something on Celestion's FAQs recently. They said if the amp is rated 100 watts, then 100 watts worth of speakers will always be able to cope. That means four 25 watt greens should cope with a Superlead. I have trouble believing that, but maybe. I do not want to test the statement for veracity though. I am not cashed up enough to risk destroying a quad's worth of new greens.
P.S. Some 100 watt reactive loads out there can not cope with a dimed 100 watt Plexi. They can not even cope with a dimed JMP 50 or 1987x. A Suhr one can and so can the 200 watt rated Freyette one I have now. I almost found out the hard way with my previous reactive load and let the magic smoke out of the amp, i.e, almost blew it up when the reactive load overheated and went into auto shut down mode, which leaves the amp running without a load on the output transformer. I realized what was happening and scrambled to turn the amp off in time. No damage as far as I can tell.
Thanks, interesting about claimed new Greenback power handling. Either there’s a new version of the Greenback or they misunderstood the question. And if you don’t change some other parameters more power handling means impaired sound.
Glad your amp survived! Cheers!
Love how airy and open it sounds with the Alnico speakers and open backs.
Of course your tasteful playing also showcases the rig extremely well!
Thanks that’s kind of you!
I'm an (ageing) stuck record but I rank these amps (still) above JTM45's and 5F6 tweeds. The only reason they aren't 10k a pop is because of post-war politics keeping them out of the American mainstream.
Edit: Best way to describe them is a Marshall with the soul of a clinically depressed husky.
Hahaha! Really interesting feedback. I always wondered why they weren’t more highly regarded in terms of price
The Telecaster sounded fabulous through the Vox. Proved the old saying true there Johan, Tele/Vox can't be beaten!
Thanks! Yeah my favourite combo for cleans
Even sounds good just on my phone without any headphones. Vox chime for real. The telecaster sounds amazing.
Thanks! Really good to hear that
That sounds amazing! Best clean tone I've heard on your channel, and that's saying quite a lot.
Thanks! Really good to hear that. I also think this is the greatest clean tone I’ve had.
My favourite amp. I bought my 1966 AC50 a few of years back after watching you demo one. Now coupled with my 4X12 Orange cab it's a beast. I had been using my Powerbrake with it but have now found a combination of pedals that seem to work just as well...and help preserve its longevity too. Thank you Johan
Thanks great to hear, Stephan! Cheers
Awesome sounding amp Johan! I own a 66 AC50 and it’s one of my favourite amps. One of the last bargain vintage amps out there. Amazing tones Johan and great playing!
Thanks Jeff! Yeah they are surprisingly affordable
Will you be doing a speaker shootout for vintage and modern Vox speakers any time soon?
I actually did that for some of the speakers here:
Does Celestion’s New MONSTER ALNICO hold up to the ORIGINALS?
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@@JohanSegeborn thank you!
Thanks Johan!😃
Cheers Paul!
pure rocknroll
The Tele sounded so good! What a great sound. Killer!
Thanks! Great to hear that!
killer tone
Thanks
Boy...Fenders and Vox amps go SO well together 😊
Thanks, they do indeed
What a sound!😊
Thanks! :-)
What a sound!
Thanks, glad to hear it!
Fabulous Johan! Really captures the dynamics.
Thanks Eddie! Yeah this room really makes the amps justice
EL-34 50watter with alnico speakers = magic. This, or 68 plexi 1987, doesnt matter. It is THE sound to me.
Didnt noel gallagher use this in oasis as well after the marshall/wem combo
Interesting! I’ll look into that right away!
@@JohanSegebornhaha Johan! Please only after your evening meal and chores ! He mentioned it in the That Pedal show interview. It was next to his Marshall/wem setup. It was an AC50 head but through a marshall 4*12 😁
Finally, I get to hear a version of my dream speaker combo JBL D120F with blue celestions. Magical together it seems
Hi Gary! Yeah they sound great together. The JBL is a bit louder/more efficient though. I chose the least efficient unit I had for this
@@JohanSegeborn mixing drivers can be so tough, what with wattage, sensitivity, ohmage...and then whether their voices complement or detract. I guess the blues and jbl worked because the blues are so mid-focused that the sensitivity of the flat response JBL didn't really step too much on that part of the frequency spectrum.
I bought two AC50s last year because of you. I kept the better one - buts thats a really magic amp! It compresses in a way that nothing else does. It really plays the guitar by itself 😅 might be my best amp - thanks for that!
Btw, you just make the best content regarding amps/speakers etc ! Its like s big libary. Whatever i wanna know/hear - you made a video about it! Also bought some mojotones, an or80 and got my amp modded my tommy folkesson because of you 😅
Thanks, makes my day to hear that!
Another great video thanks Johan - the sound with the Tele is *so* good, it often feels like Vox amps were voiced for Fenders (Jennings imported Fender guitars and some amps in the early days). But I also love a T-Top in the bridge position! I can (kind of) replicate this sound at home with my AC30 Super Twin, but I think I need to get a Fryette or some kind of attenuator …
Another great video by the king of the blues.well done my friend .great tone from that amp.🎸🙏🙏👍👍👍⚘⚘
Thanks! Glad you like it!
it has this rory galligher style of tone nice amp
Thanks!
TRICKS:Some strings dont sound like the others.Intonation,wrong width etc.Tune,overtone,hit chords several in harmony.1 gets louder,to well tuned.If you tune the string out\down,volume receeds.And all is flat.
Great playing and recording, sounds so sweet! Always a pleasure watching you demos Johan, thanks!
Thanks Bengt! I’m so glad to hear that!
Great sounds coming from the Vox line up!
Thanks Brandon! Glad you like it!
Such a fantastic sound! 'Å Floden blev mitt liv va'
Thanks! I’m playing versions of two songs in the video actually; first the ending of Sir Psycho Sexy by RHCP and then 6 Ribbons by Jon English. Cheers!
That T top sounds amazing. I will never own a late 50s les Paul so my realistic attainable dream guitars are a 1974 to 1977 les paul standard and a custom from the same era . A large chunk of my favorite guitar tones come From T top Equiped 70s Gibosn les Paul.. A les Paul Deluxe with Factory humbucker routes would dover nicely as well but they are alot more expensive due to their rarity . From 1970 to the end of 73 if you wanted a les Paul Stnandard with Humbuckers you could only order them from the factory but all they did was take a finished deluxe body and expand the mini humbucket routes for full size buckers and put on a truss rod cover that said Standard .
Alex lifeson had a tobacco sunburst 1970 Standard that started out life as a deluxe but got the factory expanded humbucker routes and that guitar sounds absolutely amazing. The 1974 standards also sound Killer
I would like a 74 Standard and a 1977 standard. I want a 77 because it's got a maple neck and 77 was the first year they dropped the Pancake body after introducing it in 1969. Also I I find after 77 the T tops take a nose dive in tonal quality . They get bland and generic sounding To my ears 76/77 are the last years that T tops still have that classic T top sound .
The Maple neck les Paul's have a sound all their own . They have a less compressed and open crunch and are very percussive and firm in the low end . They also stay very clear under heavy drive and distortion. They are not as chewy or vintage sounding. They have a crispness and snap to them
I wish Gibson would do something like a USA standard 70s les Paul with a maple neck the narrower nut width And a proper mid to late 70s neck carve which are unique and not like your run of the mill 60s slim taper and throw a set of the gibosn T type pickups in them .
Maple necks were a staple for a 7 year period and I want a maple neck les pauls . Of course for the price Gibson would ask you could get a clean example of a real mid to late 70s standard for just a 1000 dollars to 2000 dollars more and you would get most Likely a better guitar. I don't know how the T type pickups stack up the the real mid 70s T tops but by guess is that the originals will be better if the original vs current Gibson PAF offerings are an indication. Although I do love some Of Gibsons modern PAF style pickups like Custombuckers and all their variations as well as the BB1 or BB2 as neck pickups with a BB3 bridge and in the right guitar a 57 classic or Classic Plus both as bridge pickups. Don't like any type of 57 in the neck although the new underwound 57 classic sounds promising but as much as I love those pickups they don't sound as good as the originals but them again nothing really does . Some of the very expensive clones get a little closer than modern Gibsons but not so much more closer that I think the difference is worth the outlay . . They get closer but not that much closer and they still don't nail it any stretch. Once you pass the high end Gibson and Duncan custom shop pickups the law of diminishing returns really kicks in at the point and If your not using vintage amps or vintage clone single channel amps or your using dirt boxes then it matters even less . When your using dirt boxes and channel switching amps with built in drive channels alot to the subtle nuances of your expensive boutique pups go out the window .
This one brought tears to my eyes. Oh my God that amp is incredible. Oh yeah, your playing is pretty spot on too bro
Thanks brother! Great to hear that
I have this amp, same year wit the bottom cab loaded with silver bells. Plug it into a 4x12 and you get the best clean sounding amp ever, and one of the best overdrives too.
Cool, do you have the horn/tweeter left in your cab?
@@JohanSegeborn oh yes! I think it is a goodman.
The Vox AC50 is what Page used to record whole lotta love .
A T top in the bridge with a BB1 in the neck is a good Approximation of what Page used in his number 1 les paul from June 72 to the very ealry 90s . He had a 72 T top in the bridge paired with the original 59 PAF in the neck which most likely had an A2 magnet . It was that combination of the A5 T top and A2 PAf that Gave Page that unique middle position tone he had on the How The West Was Won The Song Remains The Same and at the Earls Court 75 shows and Knebworth 79..
Alnico 5 in the bridge with a 7.5k output and Alnico 2 or 3 in the neck with An 8k to 8.3k neck are key specs to that Page Middle position tone .
I saw a video of a guy who put an A5 magnet in a Gibson 490r neck pickup and used it for the bridge position and took a Burstbucker 2 and swapped out the stock A2 Magnet for An A3 mag and used it for the neck position and the Page tones he was getting blew me away.
The A5 490 was meant to be a poor man's T top and A3 BB2 was a poor man's Jimmy Page custombucker as the Jimmy Page signature pickups were Alnico 3 and measured between 8k and 8.2k.
According to Gibson the current Custombuckers are supposed to be the same pickups that they developed and used for the Page guitar . This makes sense as the Page signature replica guitars finished in 2010 and then in 2011 the Custombucker started to show up in other artist Replica guitars and in CME and wildwood guitars and by 2013 all Custom Shop Reissues were getting Custombuckers .
The best neck pickup I ever heard was BB2 with an A3 magnet .it Sits in between a stock BB2 and a Custombucker.
I would love the hear Johando some experimenting pairing the T Top in the bridge with different neck pickups that he has like the BB2 and the Custombucker and get a duncan whole lotta humbucker and see what combo gets closest to the mid 70s Page middle position tone.
Another option is the new Gibson T type pickup paired with a BB2 or Custombucker
Truly amazing tone 😮
Thanks! :-)
I have a browser extension that lets me pitch videos down in semitones and I have to say; These all sound even better in the equivalent of Eb and D standard.
Awesome tones Johan! I have a 65 Ac50 that Daniel Forsberg repaired and modded for me, with master volume and fx loop. Great amp! The tone stack is a little bit odd to get used to, but ones i got it tuned in its a beast👍😊
Thanks man! Yeah the tone stack is pretty aggressive
Great tone on the Who type riffs. Sounds very much like Pete Townshend in the 60’s with a Tele.
Thanks! Really good to hear that!
Great video as usual, I also like the AC series Vox tone , however my favourite are the vintage UL series , also Vox Conqueror
Thanks! Yeah the UL series is very interesting! I’ve only played the UL710 on the channel, but that one is actually just an AC10 with UL cosmetics as I have understood it. Those hybrid ones would be cool to try for some vintage zeppelin tones.
The AC-50 sounds very similar to the Selmer T&B amps. But, they are made up of almost the same parts, so it's not so strange.
Yeah very similar tone. I think the EQ on the vox is a bit more aggressive though
Intro sounds like best RHCP sound I’ve ever heard. Maybe under the bridge outro?
Thanks! It’s a version of the outro of Sir Psycho Sexy from the same record! Cheers
This might make a good bedroom/practice rig! (I wish)
😂👍
Is the AC50 a 50 watt head that has been recapped? It sounds wonderful.
Yeah it’s a 50watter, you can check it out here: www.voxshowroom.com/uk/amp/ac50bb2.html
Peavey Blazer 158 redstripe with blue marvel does a similar tone very well
Interesting, haven’t played that one yet
When i heard the townshed riff...
Cheers! :-)
I have an amp with a switchable rectifier section (tube/silicon). I like silicon way better.
Yeah I have that on a couple of amps too and usually go for solid state
Shiiiiiiiiiit!!!!!
Cheers!
I hear Peter Green
Thanks! A very nice compliment!
Sound like led zeppelin
Thanks! That’s very kind of you!
Ive never been a fan of Vox amps. Something about their tone that doesn't sit with me?
Tone is indeed subjective but maybe you haven’t tried the amps with speakers you like with them?
@@JohanSegeborn that's true.
Heard some Vintage Pete Townsend Tones in there Johan.
Thanks, glad you noticed