I think Ford knew all along we would remove those traps .. they just needed to get the 24 mustangs out the factories within the guidlines 😂 why would they waste dual throttle bodies like that
Pretty good numbers for factory spec. Emissions definitely can mess up a car. Carbon Traps remind me of the late 70’s vehicles that came with carbon canister
Not being able to dyno the car in 1:1 causes hp and tq to read a little on the low side. Once tuning is possible, just being able to dyno in 1:1 (7th gear) will show the numbers you’re looking for.
The charcoal in the filters catch fuel/oil fumes that’s evaporate from inside the engine after it is shut off. Then when the engine starts the next time, it pulls those fumes back in.
Maybe 20min. I let the car idle for 3-4 min and drove on dyno for a min or two as well. From what I could tell everything was same temp. The car sat longer getting it on the dyno than it did pulling filters out. Made two pulls before and after. This was graph with most power from pre removal and lowest power post removal. Had full tank of 93.
No issues at all. Car with with Ford getting some body damage fixed that it had when we purchased. I have some suspension parts to test and will be doing an install/review video shorty.
They did it for EPA reasons. Removing the traps is also super easy, if Ford was serious they would have made it more of a pain to remove. Easiest and cost free way of making HP. You can’t do this in Cali tho as it’s one of the States with stricter emissions in other words illegal but in other states it’s not a problem.
@@theg-man6003I’m sorry how is California gona know if you removed baffles in your intake. That’s not something that falls under inspection or emissions testing.
Im struggling to see what that is really for..what carbon trap? Its in an air intake. Its maybe for moisture removal, or maybe to smooth the air, something like that. Dont think I've seen this on any other manufacturers cars.
There is charcoal in the filter. It catches fuel/oil vapor that evaporates from inside the engine when the car is shut off. When it starts again, those vapors are drawn in.
Pulls were 15min apart, both done in 5th gear. The car was up to temp from driving to the shop and putting straight on the dyno. I even ran the car some before both pulls to keep as much the same as possible.
480hp is what the engine itself is rated at. That’s without accessories like an alternator or A/C, power loss through the transmission/drivetrain, ect.
Damg thats gen 2, gen 3 power, This car is also 200lbs heavier. Tuning wise, they gonna have to wait some time to get access to the computer. This is kind of sad actually, reminds me of the 99 cobra.
Companies are already in the computers. Just waiting for them to get all the tables mapped and we will be tuning them in no time. The PCM will have to be removed from the car and sent in to be unlocked just like the 2021+ F150s.
Someone had an impact gun hammering in the background right after I started the first run with video. The runs would look/sound basically the same so I figured it wouldn’t matter. I have 10 other videos of dyno pulls of the car I could have posted, but would rather stick to facts and what we experienced for power. We have nothing to gain by it picking up power or not, so no reason to lie.
those traps are a joke..just what ford wanted to void everyone's warrenty...sucks for the people thinking they were getting a more powerful mustang in the 2024 model .
Not they are just trying to meet the emissions standards set by the stinking EPA, without the carbon traps it is more powerful than the outgoing Mustangs.
That’s a considerable difference wow
I think Ford knew all along we would remove those traps .. they just needed to get the 24 mustangs out the factories within the guidlines 😂 why would they waste dual throttle bodies like that
Over 400 whp stock is honestly astonishing considering its 5 liters .the coyote is a very potent engine
Awesome! Finally someone dyno'd it!
Thank for testing this! Can't wait for my 24. 2 more weeks
Very significant difference
Pretty good numbers for factory spec. Emissions definitely can mess up a car. Carbon Traps remind me of the late 70’s vehicles that came with carbon canister
They gotta be careful deleting emissions equipment, epa has been cracking down on a lot of shops.
That is a significant amount of totally free hp👌🏻
Take the cones out. Dedicated e85 tune and this thing is a beast.
So another 15 hp with out the paper air filters 😀
Great job on the video 📹 👍
Awesome testing. Thank you!
This is a warranty safe "mod"?? Can the filters easily be reinstalled for emissions?
500 rwhp NA in 7th is gonna be a breeze
Can you explain the low wheel torque numbers? I have a 24' on the way. Will be following this page closely.
Not being able to dyno the car in 1:1 causes hp and tq to read a little on the low side. Once tuning is possible, just being able to dyno in 1:1 (7th gear) will show the numbers you’re looking for.
Thanks, good info.
Can this damage or cause any problems with stuff getting into the intake ? I don’t understand what the filters are filtering.
The charcoal in the filters catch fuel/oil fumes that’s evaporate from inside the engine after it is shut off. Then when the engine starts the next time, it pulls those fumes back in.
Can you update us and let us know if it throws a code? I want to do this to mine.
250 miles so far and no issues at all.
what colour is this??? i like it
Iconic Silver
Wonder what K&N filter would yield?
We only picked up 3-5whp removing ours. Dynojet. Back to back pulls. No cooldown between runs. What was the difference in timing between the pulls?
Maybe 20min. I let the car idle for 3-4 min and drove on dyno for a min or two as well. From what I could tell everything was same temp. The car sat longer getting it on the dyno than it did pulling filters out. Made two pulls before and after. This was graph with most power from pre removal and lowest power post removal. Had full tank of 93.
Any current updates on the new mod has it given you any issues?
No issues at all. Car with with Ford getting some body damage fixed that it had when we purchased. I have some suspension parts to test and will be doing an install/review video shorty.
FORD...Lets add a dual inlet intake which will look really cool but lets fool our customers and restrict it with plastic
They did it for EPA reasons. Removing the traps is also super easy, if Ford was serious they would have made it more of a pain to remove. Easiest and cost free way of making HP. You can’t do this in Cali tho as it’s one of the States with stricter emissions in other words illegal but in other states it’s not a problem.
@@theg-man6003I’m sorry how is California gona know if you removed baffles in your intake. That’s not something that falls under inspection or emissions testing.
@ThorOdinson-zc2kq Yeah, I doubt they will open it up to see inside
Are there differences in dyno runs by using the different exhaust settings?
Every setting except the quiet mode opens 100% at wide open throttle. So in quiet mode, you might lose a couple.
Will this damage the car in any way?
Have 300 miles on the car since with zero issues.
When are you going to test a stick shift car! Not everyone wants an automatic car
Im struggling to see what that is really for..what carbon trap? Its in an air intake. Its maybe for moisture removal, or maybe to smooth the air, something like that. Dont think I've seen this on any other manufacturers cars.
There is charcoal in the filter. It catches fuel/oil vapor that evaporates from inside the engine when the car is shut off. When it starts again, those vapors are drawn in.
Has anyone experienced any issues after doing this to the air intakes? It’s been a few months now, so if any issues they should already be showing.
Our car is daily driven. 8,000 miles since this video. Zero issues.
I been telling others;)
same temps and DA??
Pulls were 15min apart, both done in 5th gear. The car was up to temp from driving to the shop and putting straight on the dyno. I even ran the car some before both pulls to keep as much the same as possible.
thought these came in at 480hp
480hp is what the engine itself is rated at. That’s without accessories like an alternator or A/C, power loss through the transmission/drivetrain, ect.
Damg thats gen 2, gen 3 power, This car is also 200lbs heavier. Tuning wise, they gonna have to wait some time to get access to the computer. This is kind of sad actually, reminds me of the 99 cobra.
Companies are already in the computers. Just waiting for them to get all the tables mapped and we will be tuning them in no time. The PCM will have to be removed from the car and sent in to be unlocked just like the 2021+ F150s.
If you have to ask if this will hurt your car in anyway, seriously, sell your car and get an EV. You are in way over your head.
Wait a second ,where is the before-and-after dyno comparison ? .... I'm not convinced I think that's a faulty number because you did one dyno Run.
Someone had an impact gun hammering in the background right after I started the first run with video. The runs would look/sound basically the same so I figured it wouldn’t matter. I have 10 other videos of dyno pulls of the car I could have posted, but would rather stick to facts and what we experienced for power. We have nothing to gain by it picking up power or not, so no reason to lie.
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those traps are a joke..just what ford wanted to void everyone's warrenty...sucks for the people thinking they were getting a more powerful mustang in the 2024 model .
Not they are just trying to meet the emissions standards set by the stinking EPA, without the carbon traps it is more powerful than the outgoing Mustangs.
@@Jimmyxsxand 200lbs heavier
@@ThorOdinson-zc2kq
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SO ITS A WASTE OF MONEY IS WHAT YOUR SAYING LOL SHUT THE HOOD AND SEE WHAT IT MAKES
Waste of what money? The hood was shut on all dyno pulls..