I have one of the best examples of these on the road. Late 63 plate, 2.2, txs, almost all optional extras bar the crap ones like tmps and its in mint condition. Had it 5 years and its been amazing. Especially love the 8 way power seats and the upgraded adaptive cruise control. Sunroof drains need cleaning out every year so they don't block up though, nothing drastic though lol
Welcome Brother. I have one of those for 3 years, too - but with now 255,000km - and every option known to men - except the sunroof (because railing) and deleted air suspension because of a H&R suspension. Born as a showcar, abused as a lender, sold to an employee - drove it around and maintained it like a god for 6 years. Last official service with service bill at 238,000km. Now that I owned it for 3 years, I'm still willing to do an official service - because it's spotless and officially maintained for every service to this time. Also, I could do the service my self for a fraction of the price and finally let the heritage die off... EDIT: Yes, I did change the oil - 2 time before, every 10k km, just to be sure. I'm talking Mondeo Service Intervall, which gets you alerted in the dashboard.
Found my 2011 TXS with 1 owner and 54,000 miles. It is spotless inside and out and I'm absolutely in love with it. They also have heated windscreen washer jets! As you've discovered, the biggest problem with them is getting the power down on wet days. Decent tyres are really important.
Just bought a 2010 Mondeo 2.0 TDCi (140hp) Estate. Changed the entertainment system to a Chinese one that fits in the panel, but has navigation, bluetooth, Apple car play and stuff. Also needed two new tyres (the existing ones weren't completely round :)). But I have to say, coming from a Passat 1.8T Variant, the Mondeo has it all. Not quite as fast as the Passat from stand still, but the Mondeo just pulls like a freight train. And what a nice driver's car it is! You just feel safe, and enjoy yourself, driving one of these Mondeos. And when it comes to space, it's like a warehouse :) Looking into chipping mine a bit, bringing it to just over 170 hp. That would be enough to make this a complete car for me and my needs.
I have a 2.0 Ecoboost 240txs hatch in the same colour, its done over 160k now and is an excellent daily, economical and comfortable, highly recommended
Just watched a video from a dealer in Northamptonshire singing the praises of the same car almost, with a sunroof, I'm biased, I have one but older 2007 diesel, enjoyed the video, pity about the remap but I'd still like it.
It’s looking rather nice to be honest and with all them mods I’d say it’s definitely been remapped ❤, but I’m commenting at the start of the video so you might mention it at some point in the video, keep up the great content
Had a silver 2008 Titanium 2ltr for 11 years before the fuel pump blew up. Had to scrap the car. She was a work horse. Then got a Saab 93 for 1k until I killed that engine in a flood this year. Then recently went back to a Mondeo. 64 plate 2 ltr Titanium X sport estate in midnight blue. Love it.
I had a 2009 Mondeo for 4 years, was a pleasure to drive. I did have to tighten the bolts in the driver's seat frame, probably due to a heavy driver in the seat, something to watch out for.
@@DarrenDixon-mw6rt You can also (quite cheaply) get a washer kit of ebay if you run out of adjustment i.e. you can't tighten it further and the seat still squeaks.
Love these mondeos. Had a 2010 1.8 TDCI Titanium X Had pretty much all the toys that mondeo had, minus the cooled seats, I deeply regret selling it, although the only let down was the 1.8 engine, too underpowered for such a big car
Hi I loved your video on the mondeo I have a 2008 mondeo estate 2.o tdci titinam x not a sport though (I wish) But mines absolutely perfect as an every day car Mines now done 258000 miles Bus shes still going strong Always starts 1st push of the button I also have a few mk2s aswell Mondeos are I think one of the best all round cars money can buy I'm collecting up as many as I can as soon there just won't be any left
I have just picked up a mk4 Titanium, my brother has the TXS. Amazing cars and seeing a lot of love for them, but it is a shame people prefer MPVs and pseudo-SUVs nowadays which has led to a fantastic car being killed off.
We really get ripped off here in North America! (Ontario, Canada) There's so many really cool good looking cars we don't get here because station wagons (estates), don't sell in the US thanks to their lovely SUV addiction. That's why I chose a Volvo XC70 just to get that wagon look but also get the advantage of AWD for our Canadian winters.
I've got the 2 litre version of the same car ( with sunroof and ACC 😛), had mine 'tweaked' from 163 up to 209 and you can definitely tell the difference, still struggles to grip on a damp surface though
"Dave" is my go to for generically naming someone unless his name was actually Dave 🤔🤔🤔 Nice to see a well specified Mondeo especially as they've not long stopped production.... Damned SUV's
Mondeo nut here. I’ve had a st200, st24, st220 (x3), 2 of which were estates. Love them, so under rated but there is a strong community of enthusiasts. Never had one of these before but from this video they look really nice. Not sure about remapping a 2.2 diesel though lol
I've remapped all my diesels in the past, you gain a fair chunk of bhp and torque, plus the mpg improved every time. I think it's well worth doing it on a diesel!
@@ziefik sounds like fun tbf! Only diesels I’ve owned have mainly been work horses so never really wanted to spend money on them. Glad you’ve smashed it though
@@rjhandley556 to be fair I never thought diesels would be something I'd drive for fun, always was just something to drive daily and don't care about too much but the torque is very fun! My dad has a diesel Mondeo and that was surprisingly nippy, horses for courses and all that I suppose :)
Haha, it might be the wet roads holding it back. I have a Volvo C30 D5 with a remap, giving about 230BHP, it generally gets good traction from a standstill unless the roads are wet, definitely bothers Golf GTIs… it can torque steer a bit though!🤣 It really comes into its own when it’s already rolling though, mid range acceleration is great, if you’re doing 50 in 5th and plant your foot down, it pushes you back in your seat.
@@Mr330d it did in my Golf GTI, I shredded the clutch quickly before getting an upgraded clutch and flywheel fitted. The C30 has no issues at all, not a hint of slip or judder, although I don’t make a habit of abusing it in reality… I usually just stick it in cruise control on a run and just relax… getting too old for racing down the 3rd lane.🤣
@@Si1983h unfortunately dual mass flywheels don’t really enjoy remaps 😂 I’m waiting for clutch slip on my remapped diesel 🙄 . C30 D5 should have a beefy clutch though
I had one as a courtesy car for a few days a few years back. I was very pleasantly surprised. I couldn't buy one, because I had two TDCi focus's that caused me a lot of grief, which the dealer didn't help much with, so I haven't bought a Ford since. A shame, because I had owned several up until I went for Diesel, but lost confidence in the brand.
Love your review, you look and sound a genuine dealer. Nice to have that in this day and age, Shit 0 -60, yes back to ford setting. Keep up your reviews,
I have a 2011 Titanium x , one thing no temp gauge unless you go into the computer and put it on the screen every time you start the car , which does not take long but a little old school gauge would be better. Overall a very good car , this is my third Mondeo & 26th car since 1986 !!! Great video Regards Mark PS No relation to Jimmy !!!!
Could be worse I had a Volvo and they don't have any temperature gauge really scary when your in a slow moving traffic on a hot summers day. I found out to my cost. Absolutely stupid pointless way of cutting costs
Instead of 0 - 60, do it whilst moving & from 20 - 70 instead, that way it’s the same as a zero to 60 time, except without the traction control & wheel spin happening.
What can I say, I do really enjoy my 08’ Ford Mondeo MK4 2.2 tdci estate Titanium X. It’s not the fastest 0-60mph. But it’s fantastic from 40mph in 4th gear upto (cough*) 60mph 😂
In general that generation Mondeo (and the last) are truly competent cars, put the badge snobbery aside (forget the temperamental Powershift autos) and you’ve got decent reliable transport and a massive boot as an estate.
I've got the same car titanium-x estate silver mine has the powershift . The heated seats in mine feel like they burn me on setting 5 and I feel a bit sore after so maybe they door. I've got no padding though I'm rather slim 30-32" waist.
Nice looking cat that , but Ouch I'd forgotten how brutal you have to be to get a relatively powerful fwd car away quickly, I'm amazed how my reportedly " Not that quick" Lexus IS 250 fly's away from the light's without drama, leaving some performance cars scrabbling for grip, but that's old man Auto's for you😉
We had the exact same car but on a 10 plate and in panther black 7 years ago. Went like a stabbed rat when floored,the 19" tyres were a good few quid for premium rubber and when only 1 or 2 up we found the ride to be very stiff. For us it was almost to big of a car and make it a touch awkward to park. Being the auto I found that you tended to drive on the brake pedal.
I had a mondeo 2.0tdi 150 remapped not to successfully. The wheelspin was bad and going uphill I had to lift off the accelerator slightly to avoid the power overwhelming the clutch causing judder. I ended up taking back to original settings. I'm now on my 2nd a 2014 also a 2.0tdi and its just past 150 thousand miles. They really are great cars spacious and comfortable. But people nowadays prefer a "badge " their loss. Being unfashionable means cheaper for us that like them to buy.
I have main remapped at 135k now is 180 k is huge difference mate , when I got it to was very slow . Definitely remapped this ford (pegeout engine is reliable but slow )
i went frrom a mondeo estate 2.0 tdi 2012 to a 2010 c6 audi a6 avant 2.0 tdi? My word huge mistake? mondeo more comfy ? audi to low ? battery drain on audi rediculous? mmi system and cd player pain in the ar-se?
Personally I really like Ford Mondeo Cars but my favourite is Ford Focus I have had 2 one was a MK2.5 Style 1.6 Petrol and my current one I now have MK4 ST Line Mild Hybrid 1.0 Eco Boost Petrol
Got the mk5 estate version, with the 2.0 diesel, remappad to an alledged 218 bhp from 180. Could have fooled me. Doesn't feel much different tbh, and no more economical either. Really wish I hadn't bothered wasting £300 now tbh.Why do these re-map specialists always claim you'll get better mpg too? Fictitional imo. Lovely car though with all the toys like yours.
mondeo is under rated because top gear found them boring because they're amazing, I only have a 2ltr petrol zetec because I need ulez and omg it's well equipped! it's better equipped then my Focus st225
That's not running 240bhp ..... I have same car on a 2014 with a proven 205bhp but a massive 520nm of torque and it's way quicker then that looks and all laced in decent tyres ... like u say another randomer with a Chinese copy and a so called 240 bhp mate type b.s😂😂😂🤣 the give away is when usually someone says "about" is because ther picking figures out there bum
Why keep saying "faux" - why not just say fake or false after all "faux" is just French for false - sticking the odd French word in makes you sound like Del Trotter!
Great cars these,I had a titanium x hatch 2.0tdci has 195k when I sold it still running strong,really well equipped, loved it
I have one of the best examples of these on the road. Late 63 plate, 2.2, txs, almost all optional extras bar the crap ones like tmps and its in mint condition. Had it 5 years and its been amazing. Especially love the 8 way power seats and the upgraded adaptive cruise control. Sunroof drains need cleaning out every year so they don't block up though, nothing drastic though lol
Welcome Brother. I have one of those for 3 years, too - but with now 255,000km - and every option known to men - except the sunroof (because railing) and deleted air suspension because of a H&R suspension. Born as a showcar, abused as a lender, sold to an employee - drove it around and maintained it like a god for 6 years. Last official service with service bill at 238,000km. Now that I owned it for 3 years, I'm still willing to do an official service - because it's spotless and officially maintained for every service to this time. Also, I could do the service my self for a fraction of the price and finally let the heritage die off...
EDIT: Yes, I did change the oil - 2 time before, every 10k km, just to be sure. I'm talking Mondeo Service Intervall, which gets you alerted in the dashboard.
Found my 2011 TXS with 1 owner and 54,000 miles. It is spotless inside and out and I'm absolutely in love with it. They also have heated windscreen washer jets!
As you've discovered, the biggest problem with them is getting the power down on wet days. Decent tyres are really important.
"or maybe"...like many high torque diesels, the torque is restricted in 1st (and potentially 2nd gear) to stop knob ends smashing the gearbox to bits.
Just bought a 2010 Mondeo 2.0 TDCi (140hp) Estate.
Changed the entertainment system to a Chinese one that fits in the panel, but has navigation, bluetooth, Apple car play and stuff.
Also needed two new tyres (the existing ones weren't completely round :)).
But I have to say, coming from a Passat 1.8T Variant, the Mondeo has it all.
Not quite as fast as the Passat from stand still, but the Mondeo just pulls like a freight train. And what a nice driver's car it is! You just feel safe, and enjoy yourself, driving one of these Mondeos.
And when it comes to space, it's like a warehouse :)
Looking into chipping mine a bit, bringing it to just over 170 hp. That would be enough to make this a complete car for me and my needs.
Which head unit did you buy? What is it like to navigate? I always fear the screen will feel sluggish/slow.
I have a 2.0 Ecoboost 240txs hatch in the same colour, its done over 160k now and is an excellent daily, economical and comfortable, highly recommended
Great video as always. I had a 2016 Mondeo tdci 2.0 litre 150bhp and it was a brilliant car but I yearned for a German so that's what I've got now.
Just watched a video from a dealer in Northamptonshire singing the praises of the same car almost, with a sunroof, I'm biased, I have one but older 2007 diesel, enjoyed the video, pity about the remap but I'd still like it.
It’s looking rather nice to be honest and with all them mods I’d say it’s definitely been remapped ❤, but I’m commenting at the start of the video so you might mention it at some point in the video, keep up the great content
You need to learn how to open car doors, the way you swung that door bouncing back on its hinges is criminal.
Good call.
@@Pauljn67 he obviously doesn't care about the vehicles he's trying to sell.
Just a bit tricky with a camera in one hand,trying to keep things in shot, is all 🤷♂️
@@ShiftingMetal excuses, excuses.
@@adamweston4152 😂 Sue me
Had a silver 2008 Titanium 2ltr for 11 years before the fuel pump blew up. Had to scrap the car. She was a work horse.
Then got a Saab 93 for 1k until I killed that engine in a flood this year.
Then recently went back to a Mondeo. 64 plate 2 ltr Titanium X sport estate in midnight blue. Love it.
I had a 2009 Mondeo for 4 years, was a pleasure to drive. I did have to tighten the bolts in the driver's seat frame, probably due to a heavy driver in the seat, something to watch out for.
Mines just started to wobble abit, is it easier enough to
Tighten up
@@DarrenDixon-mw6rt You can also (quite cheaply) get a washer kit of ebay if you run out of adjustment i.e. you can't tighten it further and the seat still squeaks.
Love these mondeos.
Had a 2010 1.8 TDCI Titanium X
Had pretty much all the toys that mondeo had, minus the cooled seats, I deeply regret selling it, although the only let down was the 1.8 engine, too underpowered for such a big car
Hi
I loved your video on the mondeo
I have a 2008 mondeo estate
2.o tdci titinam x not a sport though (I wish)
But mines absolutely perfect as an every day car
Mines now done 258000 miles
Bus shes still going strong
Always starts 1st push of the button
I also have a few mk2s aswell
Mondeos are I think one of the best all round cars money can buy
I'm collecting up as many as I can as soon there just won't be any left
I have just picked up a mk4 Titanium, my brother has the TXS. Amazing cars and seeing a lot of love for them, but it is a shame people prefer MPVs and pseudo-SUVs nowadays which has led to a fantastic car being killed off.
I own a 2012 diesel mondeo titanium turbo with adaptive cruise control with push button start and I love it.
We really get ripped off here in North America! (Ontario, Canada) There's so many really cool good looking cars we don't get here because station wagons (estates), don't sell in the US thanks to their lovely SUV addiction. That's why I chose a Volvo XC70 just to get that wagon look but also get the advantage of AWD for our Canadian winters.
That is lovely. I've got a 2012 Titanium x sport hatch. Love them,
As a day to day good all round car the mondeo is a very underrated, and certain models can look very cool.
Great video I overlooked these Mondeo since watching this. Was surprised with the outcome but makes sense 👍
I've got the 2 litre version of the same car ( with sunroof and ACC 😛), had mine 'tweaked' from 163 up to 209 and you can definitely tell the difference, still struggles to grip on a damp surface though
What mods do you do to get over 200bhp?
If it had an Audi badge it would be twice the price. I had a mk1 Focus and it was a stunning car.
"Dave" is my go to for generically naming someone unless his name was actually Dave 🤔🤔🤔 Nice to see a well specified Mondeo especially as they've not long stopped production.... Damned SUV's
Mondeo nut here. I’ve had a st200, st24, st220 (x3), 2 of which were estates. Love them, so under rated but there is a strong community of enthusiasts. Never had one of these before but from this video they look really nice. Not sure about remapping a 2.2 diesel though lol
I've remapped all my diesels in the past, you gain a fair chunk of bhp and torque, plus the mpg improved every time. I think it's well worth doing it on a diesel!
@@ziefik sounds like fun tbf! Only diesels I’ve owned have mainly been work horses so never really wanted to spend money on them. Glad you’ve smashed it though
@@rjhandley556 to be fair I never thought diesels would be something I'd drive for fun, always was just something to drive daily and don't care about too much but the torque is very fun! My dad has a diesel Mondeo and that was surprisingly nippy, horses for courses and all that I suppose :)
Haha, it might be the wet roads holding it back. I have a Volvo C30 D5 with a remap, giving about 230BHP, it generally gets good traction from a standstill unless the roads are wet, definitely bothers Golf GTIs… it can torque steer a bit though!🤣
It really comes into its own when it’s already rolling though, mid range acceleration is great, if you’re doing 50 in 5th and plant your foot down, it pushes you back in your seat.
Doing 50mph in 5th and planting your foot with a remap is asking for clutch slip
@@Mr330d it did in my Golf GTI, I shredded the clutch quickly before getting an upgraded clutch and flywheel fitted. The C30 has no issues at all, not a hint of slip or judder, although I don’t make a habit of abusing it in reality… I usually just stick it in cruise control on a run and just relax… getting too old for racing down the 3rd lane.🤣
@@Si1983h unfortunately dual mass flywheels don’t really enjoy remaps 😂 I’m waiting for clutch slip on my remapped diesel 🙄 . C30 D5 should have a beefy clutch though
@@Mr330d haha, if it breaks or shows signs it’s going to, I’ll find a more robust solution. It’s good at the moment though, I don’t hammer it.
You should be able to hit 60 in third. Hold the revs longer maybe?
Who on earth at Ford thought putting heated seat switches inside a cup holder was a good idea? What could possibly go wrong?!
Yep I own a mk4 that got half a monster energy down the switch and knackered. Genius from ford
This mondeo estate looks amazing
The real hidden gem is the Mondeo 2.5T.
I had one as a courtesy car for a few days a few years back. I was very pleasantly surprised. I couldn't buy one, because I had two TDCi focus's that caused me a lot of grief, which the dealer didn't help much with, so I haven't bought a Ford since. A shame, because I had owned several up until I went for Diesel, but lost confidence in the brand.
Love your review, you look and sound a genuine dealer. Nice to have that in this day and age, Shit 0 -60, yes back to ford setting. Keep up your reviews,
I have a 2011 Titanium x , one thing no temp gauge unless you go into the computer and put it on the screen every time you start the car , which does not take long but a little old school gauge would be better.
Overall a very good car , this is my third Mondeo & 26th car since 1986 !!!
Great video
Regards Mark
PS No relation to Jimmy !!!!
Could be worse I had a Volvo and they don't have any temperature gauge really scary when your in a slow moving traffic on a hot summers day. I found out to my cost. Absolutely stupid pointless way of cutting costs
If you get the firmware updated to the instrument cluster, you get the time and temperature. Should have been done on an early service.
Instead of 0 - 60, do it whilst moving & from 20 - 70 instead, that way it’s the same as a zero to 60 time, except without the traction control & wheel spin happening.
What can I say, I do really enjoy my 08’ Ford Mondeo MK4 2.2 tdci estate Titanium X. It’s not the fastest 0-60mph.
But it’s fantastic from 40mph in 4th gear upto (cough*) 60mph 😂
In general that generation Mondeo (and the last) are truly competent cars, put the badge snobbery aside (forget the temperamental Powershift autos) and you’ve got decent reliable transport and a massive boot as an estate.
I've got the same car titanium-x estate silver mine has the powershift . The heated seats in mine feel like they burn me on setting 5 and I feel a bit sore after so maybe they door. I've got no padding though I'm rather slim 30-32" waist.
Nice looking cat that , but Ouch I'd forgotten how brutal you have to be to get a relatively powerful fwd car away quickly, I'm amazed how my reportedly " Not that quick" Lexus IS 250 fly's away from the light's without drama, leaving some performance cars scrabbling for grip, but that's old man Auto's for you😉
Very smart car.
We had the exact same car but on a 10 plate and in panther black 7 years ago.
Went like a stabbed rat when floored,the 19" tyres were a good few quid for premium rubber and when only 1 or 2 up we found the ride to be very stiff.
For us it was almost to big of a car and make it a touch awkward to park.
Being the auto I found that you tended to drive on the brake pedal.
I had a mondeo 2.0tdi 150 remapped not to successfully. The wheelspin was bad and going uphill I had to lift off the accelerator slightly to avoid the power overwhelming the clutch causing judder. I ended up taking back to original settings. I'm now on my 2nd a 2014 also a 2.0tdi and its just past 150 thousand miles. They really are great cars spacious and comfortable. But people nowadays prefer a "badge " their loss. Being unfashionable means cheaper for us that like them to buy.
I have main remapped at 135k now is 180 k is huge difference mate , when I got it to was very slow . Definitely remapped this ford (pegeout engine is reliable but slow )
Is this the same engine that went in the Jag XF?
Yes, the Peugeot DW12 engine (it was available in various states of tune, I think Peugeot stuck a 2nd turbo on it for their highest output version)
What watch are you wearing? Looks nice.
I have a 2011 2.0tdci tit x sport estate and it lovely as a daily. It needs a new clutch soon though and I'm dreading it 🤣
i went frrom a mondeo estate 2.0 tdi 2012 to a 2010 c6 audi a6 avant 2.0 tdi? My word huge mistake? mondeo more comfy ? audi to low ? battery drain on audi rediculous? mmi system and cd player pain in the ar-se?
Personally I really like Ford Mondeo Cars but my favourite is Ford Focus I have had 2 one was a MK2.5 Style 1.6 Petrol and my current one I now have MK4 ST Line Mild Hybrid 1.0 Eco Boost Petrol
Didn't the 2.2 TDCi have limited torque in first? I'd be interested to see what it does in the 50-80mph range.
These Mondeo 2.2 titanium x ones . Usually the reg starts with an E. Not sure why. Are they ex Ford employee cars?
Yes. Ex Ford Direct, usually loaded full of kit.
In the post 2001 plates, the first letter indicates where it was first registered. E is for Essex, where ford were based.
My 2.0 was, reg started EJ
No heated seats or motorised mirrors on my 2015 Focus mk3.5 titanium 😪
Got the mk5 estate version, with the 2.0 diesel, remappad to an alledged 218 bhp from 180. Could have fooled me. Doesn't feel much different tbh, and no more economical either. Really wish I hadn't bothered wasting £300 now tbh.Why do these re-map specialists always claim you'll get better mpg too? Fictitional imo. Lovely car though with all the toys like yours.
Is this James Garlah?
mondeo is under rated because top gear found them boring because they're amazing, I only have a 2ltr petrol zetec because I need ulez and omg it's well equipped! it's better equipped then my Focus st225
I presume you've now sold this? I'm right in the market for one
Hi where is this car for sale? Cheers
I have the same car, great car but very slow in first and second. Dpf is a pain as well better to get rid
Nice car paint work needs looking at
Nothing like buying your own old car back inn trade. Unsure why. Just has a modicum more excitement to the job that day
Used to have a mondeo mk3 had it mapped on eco it hardly used to drink any diesel 😅 performance was average for a Ford 😅
We tip dont keep air fresheners on the steering rack it rubs and burns plastic like nothin normal
Yeah very true, I put them down there for videos so they don’t swing around in front of the camera 👍
I have a 2.5T mondeo and you can get to 100km/h (62 mph) in second gear, you shifted to 4th and complain about the acceleration? :D
Painted calipers, induction kits? RUN
Dragy times lazy maybe wrong wheels fitted one size too big?
Titanium X sport had 19s as standard
The Mondeo Mk4 Titanium x 2.5t 2008 to 2010 was the best not many were manufactured in Belgium due to people wanting that awful diesel.
everyday guy no petrol head mondeo super
That's not running 240bhp ..... I have same car on a 2014 with a proven 205bhp but a massive 520nm of torque and it's way quicker then that looks and all laced in decent tyres ... like u say another randomer with a Chinese copy and a so called 240 bhp mate type b.s😂😂😂🤣 the give away is when usually someone says "about" is because ther picking figures out there bum
cry more
Why keep saying "faux" - why not just say fake or false after all "faux" is just French for false - sticking the odd French word in makes you sound like Del Trotter!
Because it’s in the English lexicon and I prefer it to fake 🤷♂️
rubbish lol! not only the speed but in general . BUY GERMAN .
Love German. But test drove an A4 quattro before the TXS... TXS better in every way
i dont like audi lol vw golf r estate 7.5 or bmw m sport g80 estate
@aceace5457 not in the same price range as a mk4 mondeo though
i dont want a mondeo lol absolutley cr.p lol
@aceace5457 cool, but you just mentioned cars 10x as much and compared them.