Great video! I'm building my first gaming pc with an i5 14600k and a 4070. I chose this case and my parts should arrive by the end of the week. I'm super excited!
Got the same case last week. I will be ordering the rest of the build in a couple weeks. Im going with a 7800x3d, 32gb dd5 and a 7900xtx. Looking forward to going AMD as it will be all new to me. I have had ATI card....9800XT, does anyone remember that one, how old are we haha.
I have this case and used it as a portable pc. Best advice i can give to anyone, cable management is tough and please be patient as you build. I was able to fit the 360mm Arctic liquid freezer iii inside it but there are complications. Because i used an ATX power supply, it limits the gpu i can put inside it to only a two fan card design. The rear fan i had to take out and install on the outside of the case because of the AIO tube clearance, on top of it all i will say if you dont have custom cables making it easy to bend, certain defualt psu cables may be difficult to use because of the angles. If you go for any large AIO make sure you are getting an SFX power supply to try and make more clearance or just stick with the 240mm aio's. Oh last thing, depending on what motherboard you have it might only have 1 or 2 fan plugs on it so get a fan hub if you can fit it inside. Last bit of advice to anyone building, Patience is key and RTFM for everything 😂
@@jordanash exactly. The mistakes I made are on me because I should have done a bit more research on people building in it and their experience. I did my own and only when off specifications. Everything fit but I had to improvise a few times. Main mistakes on my end were just parts that I picked were a bit tricky to get everything working together
Unfortunately Arctic have higher requirements for samples otherwise I'd get one to use as a demo for smaller cases. Will have to try and get one another way, would be handy.
Checking the vid because i plan on using the same case for my build and wants to check if my component size will fit the case. Ended up watching the whole things and enjoying it. Good job.
It’s actually pretty huge case coming from itx (never ever again!). Arrived today - pretty good for the price I paid but if it was aluminium it would be brilliant. Steel cases are just very cheap looking in comparison.
Good angles to view the details of this case, this def saved me time getting familiar before mine arrives next week. Now im excited to see how my 4070 S stacks up against the ti 😈
Great review and build video! I got this case and motherboard based on your review, got a custom made clear side panel, really nice case. The front ports make it for me, not many cases have front usb anymore, on the side isn't ideal. I'd like to see your thoughts on aio vs fan cooling... I went for a noctua cpu cooler, I feel that water cooling is still air cooled anyway if you think about it.
Thank you! Ah, they have a side panel version now, hopefully, you saw that before you got yours made. I like AIOs for SFF builds generally, as long as the case says support for 240mm AIO you don't need to think about compatibility then. Also, I also consider the CPU you're using compared to the amount of air coming in. For example, if there's no intake but you're using a mid-tier CPU, I'd use an AIO as you'll have a bigger surface area plus two fans, over using a top-down cooler with a single fan. I get what you mean with the air cooling, but that's just the fans cooling the rad. From what I've seen (except BIG air towers like the Noctua NH-D15, AIOs generally keep CPUs a lot cooler, they are more expensive for the most part though.
Great build mate! I got myself the same case not that long ago and I have to say that it is a beauty :D Paired my 5600 with a 6700XT from XFX and the temps are really good. The only problem I had was fitting the cables since my Corsair 750w has braided cables and they occupy so much space :(
I got only two fans in mine AP201. I'm even using the same water cooler up at the top sucking any heat out the top through the radiator. Under cinebench23 the hottest I got was 90 degrees for about 45 seconds then the rest of the time it maintained around 62 degrees. You don't need all those stupid fans. The case is completely "mesh". You don't need any intake fans. The case is the intake. I forgot to mention. I have a 12900k and a rtx 4080 super running on a 850-watt psu with "load intel limits by default" set in the bios
You can get away without any, but I build these videos for the majority of viewers who would like their case to have some airflow. Also, some people wouldn't like to make a PC without fans as they might worry it will overheat, so fans give peace of mind. Don't worry, there's a reason for adding the "stupid fans" 😉
I wish I'd listened more carefully. This case will absolutely NOT take anything bigger than 55mm (max 60mm) TALL 280 AIO (140mm wide). Mine is 65mm tall and it's dead weight. This is using m-atx board with cpu ports at the top.
Yeah the Arctic 280mm AIO is 38mm thick plus the 25mm fan so it's a bit thick but will fit depending on "certain" mb vrm heatsinks. Some vrm heatsinks are too tall for that AIO setup.
Hey man great video. I’m planning on copying this build except I’ll be using a 7900gre and 7800x3d. This is my first build and putting all the parts in pc part picker it’s showing that the psu you used is too long? Hope you can help!
To be fair I think the TUF 4070ti in this is about the same length as the Powercolor GRE, maybe have a Google but I don't think you'll have any problem.
This is very close to my current build, except that I have a i5 12600k and a rtx 3070. I'm considering an upgrade to a i5 14600k and rtx 4070 ti (maybe the super variant, if it's even real). But the thing is, I wonder if I should also upgrade my Motherboard and RAM to DDR5 or if that wouldn't make that much of a difference right now for gaming.
@@jordanash lol I've played the entire video w/o sound coz @ work. Anyway, I'll try to translate later because the UK english is lot faster than I'm used to. Thanks
Hmm, if you have some more thermal paste I'd try remounting the pump block. Double check the posts too, it might not be making enough contact, I ran into that issue in the LC II 360 video.
Check out my overview, I cover limitations in that - ua-cam.com/video/mWWNQzbUucU/v-deo.html I'd tell you straight out but I can't remember what it supports
@@jordanash I mean for case fans on top of the psu, for my pc the intake is front, top and back are exhaust. Just don’t know what way to make my PSU shroud fans
Difficult to understand what do you mean. If you have itx psu and use the top bracket you can fit an 140mm fan art the front with some tweaking. You'd need to clear the cables away for air although I've done it on my build. Not sure if it help with the flow or makes things worst.
Very orderly wording. I can't get used to the idea of the power supply switch having no access outside the case ? Nice build - but what a squiggly mess of wires on the back of that case !!! Horrifying. I really wish I had chosen the Thermaltake cube. More space - better Hard Drive mounting. Auuuugh !!!
Thank you. It's a little bit odd, but I don't think it could have any negative effects. If any rgb stays on when the PC is shutdown then that could be disabled in the bios.
Nope, guessing you've not been on my channel before because we don't hide issues here, look at my second most recent review of the Tecware case. At launch, Starfield was like this for *every* GPU I tested. I covered the AMD 7700/7800XT and Arc A750/A770, and it was the same issue for those too, very poor FPS. Not a single GPU I tested at Starfield's launch got over 60FPS in 1440p high, it was very poorly optimised at launch.
Bottom fans are useless, they are interfering with gpu’s fans crating turbulence… I have the same case with 4090 and no bottom fans and great temperatures and airflow
Was trying to get some more air to the AIO mainly. Also, If I didn't add any in the bottom, people would complain about it, so that's another reason why.
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I'm buying this case for a budget build, and this video has helped me pre-figure out some of the cabling. Thank you!
Awesome, glad it helped! Thanks for watching.
i'm also about to build a budget pc on this case, can you just tell about your pc's components?
@@egesevtekin9450 its on desc.
I think they mean the spec of the system from the person that commented
Great video! I'm building my first gaming pc with an i5 14600k and a 4070. I chose this case and my parts should arrive by the end of the week. I'm super excited!
Thank you! That'll be a great system, enjoy!
Lovely video mate, very much like the tempo of everything and how it's all explained. ❤
Thank you mate, I really appreciate that!
9:32 "Deeznuts"
Got em'
That cable spaghetti on thje back side :D I have issues with only necessery cables but your case is special. Congrats for cable management XD
That's the only big thing I don't like on this case, the lack of space behind the motherboard.
Got the same case last week. I will be ordering the rest of the build in a couple weeks. Im going with a 7800x3d, 32gb dd5 and a 7900xtx. Looking forward to going AMD as it will be all new to me. I have had ATI card....9800XT, does anyone remember that one, how old are we haha.
That sounds awesome! Oh blimey, now I feel old haha
What mobo did you go with?
@@coolgamegozebra116 Asus b650 tuf matx
haha im doing the exact same thing
I have this case and used it as a portable pc. Best advice i can give to anyone, cable management is tough and please be patient as you build. I was able to fit the 360mm Arctic liquid freezer iii inside it but there are complications. Because i used an ATX power supply, it limits the gpu i can put inside it to only a two fan card design. The rear fan i had to take out and install on the outside of the case because of the AIO tube clearance, on top of it all i will say if you dont have custom cables making it easy to bend, certain defualt psu cables may be difficult to use because of the angles. If you go for any large AIO make sure you are getting an SFX power supply to try and make more clearance or just stick with the 240mm aio's. Oh last thing, depending on what motherboard you have it might only have 1 or 2 fan plugs on it so get a fan hub if you can fit it inside. Last bit of advice to anyone building, Patience is key and RTFM for everything 😂
Yeah I think I mentioned in the overview that it can fit a 360mm AIO but that's on the basis of it being standard thickness, unlike the Arctic.
@@jordanash exactly. The mistakes I made are on me because I should have done a bit more research on people building in it and their experience. I did my own and only when off specifications. Everything fit but I had to improvise a few times. Main mistakes on my end were just parts that I picked were a bit tricky to get everything working together
Unfortunately Arctic have higher requirements for samples otherwise I'd get one to use as a demo for smaller cases. Will have to try and get one another way, would be handy.
Update, an old contact now leads the marketing and is sending some samples 😀
Love how clean this build looks with this case. I'm personally divided on the mesh or the TG since both look so cleannnn!
Glad you like it! I'd get the TG, annoyingly it came out just after I got this one.
Checking the vid because i plan on using the same case for my build and wants to check if my component size will fit the case. Ended up watching the whole things and enjoying it. Good job.
That's what we like to hear!
It’s actually pretty huge case coming from itx (never ever again!). Arrived today - pretty good for the price I paid but if it was aluminium it would be brilliant. Steel cases are just very cheap looking in comparison.
I've got a few ITX builds to do, not looking forward to this to be honest 😅
@@10secondsrule yeah i was gonna use nr200 but the sfx psu cost too much for my budget build 🤣
Good angles to view the details of this case, this def saved me time getting familiar before mine arrives next week. Now im excited to see how my 4070 S stacks up against the ti 😈
Glad it helped!
Congrats, amazing build. This case is stunning
Thank you! Great, isn't it. Might do another with this at some point.
Great review and build video! I got this case and motherboard based on your review, got a custom made clear side panel, really nice case. The front ports make it for me, not many cases have front usb anymore, on the side isn't ideal. I'd like to see your thoughts on aio vs fan cooling... I went for a noctua cpu cooler, I feel that water cooling is still air cooled anyway if you think about it.
Thank you! Ah, they have a side panel version now, hopefully, you saw that before you got yours made.
I like AIOs for SFF builds generally, as long as the case says support for 240mm AIO you don't need to think about compatibility then. Also, I also consider the CPU you're using compared to the amount of air coming in.
For example, if there's no intake but you're using a mid-tier CPU, I'd use an AIO as you'll have a bigger surface area plus two fans, over using a top-down cooler with a single fan.
I get what you mean with the air cooling, but that's just the fans cooling the rad. From what I've seen (except BIG air towers like the Noctua NH-D15, AIOs generally keep CPUs a lot cooler, they are more expensive for the most part though.
You do a nice job of explaining, thanks!
I'm glad, thanks for watching!
I was a bit sceptic about the front prime fan. That turned out good 😂
Good old bodge job 😂
Great build mate! I got myself the same case not that long ago and I have to say that it is a beauty :D Paired my 5600 with a 6700XT from XFX and the temps are really good. The only problem I had was fitting the cables since my Corsair 750w has braided cables and they occupy so much space :(
Very nice! Yeah I can imagine that was a pain, this was bad enough with soft cable haha
GREAT VIDEO! 👍
Thank you!
I got only two fans in mine AP201. I'm even using the same water cooler up at the top sucking any heat out the top through the radiator. Under cinebench23 the hottest I got was 90 degrees for about 45 seconds then the rest of the time it maintained around 62 degrees. You don't need all those stupid fans. The case is completely "mesh". You don't need any intake fans. The case is the intake. I forgot to mention. I have a 12900k and a rtx 4080 super running on a 850-watt psu with "load intel limits by default" set in the bios
You can get away without any, but I build these videos for the majority of viewers who would like their case to have some airflow. Also, some people wouldn't like to make a PC without fans as they might worry it will overheat, so fans give peace of mind. Don't worry, there's a reason for adding the "stupid fans" 😉
i just built this nearly identical pc but with a 13700k and 4080 super! this video was so helpful thank you🫶
Nice one! You're welcome, thanks for watching.
Awesome video!
Thank you!
Des nuts 9:32
Got em'
I wish I'd listened more carefully. This case will absolutely NOT take anything bigger than 55mm (max 60mm) TALL 280 AIO (140mm wide). Mine is 65mm tall and it's dead weight. This is using m-atx board with cpu ports at the top.
What AIO are you using? Not heard of many thicker than 55mm total
Yeah the Arctic 280mm AIO is 38mm thick plus the 25mm fan so it's a bit thick but will fit depending on "certain" mb vrm heatsinks. Some vrm heatsinks are too tall for that AIO setup.
@@jordanashcat I fit a be quiet dark rock pro 5 in here? Or a cool master MA824? 🙏 thanks
Dark Rock Pro 5 will *just* fit, 168mm in 170mm of space@@julianc691
@@jordanash thank you 🙏. Is it a good idea?
Thanks for the guide! excited to build my own..still lacks the cpu and mb
You're welcome, I hope yours comes out well
nice setup!
Thank you
Loved the build, but the Borat style 'very nice' was the star of the video.
Haha I don't remember doing that but glad it was entertaining.
I'm planning to buy this case. How is the dust buildup?
Not sure I'm afraid. Unfortunately I can't use these builds long term as I need the parts for other videos.
Hey man great video. I’m planning on copying this build except I’ll be using a 7900gre and 7800x3d. This is my first build and putting all the parts in pc part picker it’s showing that the psu you used is too long? Hope you can help!
Thank you! Hmm, that's odd. The Powercolor GRE is a similar size, I think most are apart from anything ASUS make. What model are you looking to use?
@@jordanash hey man, I’m looking to use the power colour hellhound. Pc part picker doesn’t like the mobo or psu though!
To be fair I think the TUF 4070ti in this is about the same length as the Powercolor GRE, maybe have a Google but I don't think you'll have any problem.
How's the case? If it's only using the bottom intake fans are they enough for the airflow? Or a case with front intake fans better?
I put one in the front too, it's in the video. Thermal testing is also in the video haha
I feel a 12600K, Arc A750, and air cooling would have better kept with the value theme.
I might do something budget orientated with this in the future.
So many cables I'm so confused 😢😢
Just take your time and use the instruction manuals, it's all in there.
Can you air cooled this? Instead of aio? With highend gpu?
Yeah course ☺
This is very close to my current build, except that I have a i5 12600k and a rtx 3070. I'm considering an upgrade to a i5 14600k and rtx 4070 ti (maybe the super variant, if it's even real). But the thing is, I wonder if I should also upgrade my Motherboard and RAM to DDR5 or if that wouldn't make that much of a difference right now for gaming.
If you've got a fast-ish kit, I wouldn't worry about it.
Hello, are the standoff pre-installed in the case?
Yes they are.
Is the cooler master watercooler 360L compatible with the Asus ap201??
Not sure specifically as I've not tried that combo, but the AP201 *can* take a 360mm AIO, but make sure your psu had enough space as I mentioned
@@jordanash Got it, thanks!
No worries
Just a heads up that the link of CPU and the GPU on the description was reversed.
Thank you! Appreciate it
Seems fine for me?
@@jordanash Used to when I click the gpu the cpu shows up, its fine now
@@jordanash wait I jus realized I clicked the wrong links from the affiliates mb 😓
Ah right
Which is the first game's title being tested at 17:02 ? nice build
I mentioned it in the video 15:43
@@jordanash lol I've played the entire video w/o sound coz @ work. Anyway, I'll try to translate later because the UK english is lot faster than I'm used to. Thanks
Oh right, it's Starfield. Yeah I do talk fast, that's the adhd sorry
@@jordanash np, thanks a lot for the clarification
No worries, thanks for watching
T'S SO BEAUTIFUL, I THINK I SHOULD PUT THE 2 FANS OF THE AIO HEAT Sink DOWN TO THE BOTTOM TO NOT BLIND THE LED LIGHTS, I DID THAT
An AIO flat in the bottom is not recommended for longevity, it makes the liquid flow harder for the pump
Never put the radiator below the pump noobie.
will a i7-13700k work as well?
Yep, I'd go for a 360mm AIO though as that's a higher TDP SKU
will a 360mm fit?@@jordanash
Yes!@@Twyke
Of course, I wouldn't recommend something that wouldn't fit knowingly ☺
Should i get the version with the glass side panel or the one with the mesh? And if u think the mesh is better do u see rgb through the mesh?
I'd go for the window version. This case arrived literally three days before the windowed one came out 🙃 You can see the rgb through, yeah.
@@jordanash ok! And what fans should i get? I like lian li fans and phantek d30's but they 100 bucks for 3 fans
The ones I used the video are like $45
@@jordanash for each fan?
No, three. I covered it's a triple pack in the video
How did you install the front fan … just wedge it?
I'm sure I talk about it in the video?
I have absolutely same parts(except storage and memory), but cpu temperature much much higher 😢
Hmm, if you have some more thermal paste I'd try remounting the pump block. Double check the posts too, it might not be making enough contact, I ran into that issue in the LC II 360 video.
@@jordanash ty, I’ll try
Does anyone know if it fits the phantom spirit CPU air cooler? it is a 154mm tall
Check out my overview, I cover limitations in that - ua-cam.com/video/mWWNQzbUucU/v-deo.html
I'd tell you straight out but I can't remember what it supports
If I put my PSU facing down, do I put my fans as exhaust on the psu shroud?
No need to change the fan on the PSU, it'll be fine either way around.
@@jordanash I mean for case fans on top of the psu, for my pc the intake is front, top and back are exhaust. Just don’t know what way to make my PSU shroud fans
I'm not too sure where you mean if I'm honest, but I've always gone front and bottom intake, rear and top exhaust.
Difficult to understand what do you mean. If you have itx psu and use the top bracket you can fit an 140mm fan art the front with some tweaking. You'd need to clear the cables away for air although I've done it on my build. Not sure if it help with the flow or makes things worst.
@@10secondsrulehi, i planning this case with SFX PSU, so i can use 140mm fan at front? It will fit?
how is the ram temp? mine i get 58~ gaming.
No idea, to be honest. Not something I monitor during testing.
Since when is 33L SFF? :D
I just read what it said on the site haha 🤷♂️
@@jordanash Haha ok, i have that case its really nice but when i was building my machine i realized that our old 486 AT mini tower was smaller :D
Haha, yeah thing have certainly got bigger over the years.
Very orderly wording. I can't get used to the idea of the power supply switch having no access outside the case ? Nice build - but what a squiggly mess of wires on the back of that case !!! Horrifying. I really wish I had chosen the Thermaltake cube. More space - better Hard Drive mounting. Auuuugh !!!
Thank you. It's a little bit odd, but I don't think it could have any negative effects. If any rgb stays on when the PC is shutdown then that could be disabled in the bios.
i guess give it time ?
Yep, processing takes forever now. Not helpful for us small creators that don't have a video backlog 🙃
@@jordanash like your videos still watching
@@jordanash appreciate your work
Thank you! I'm full of cold today and debated leaving this till tomorrow. It was a solid six hours of editing but that comment made it worth it.
Wish I could get myself editing my videos I suck
17:12 people always make excuses for nvidia products 😭
Nope, guessing you've not been on my channel before because we don't hide issues here, look at my second most recent review of the Tecware case. At launch, Starfield was like this for *every* GPU I tested. I covered the AMD 7700/7800XT and Arc A750/A770, and it was the same issue for those too, very poor FPS. Not a single GPU I tested at Starfield's launch got over 60FPS in 1440p high, it was very poorly optimised at launch.
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Bottom fans are useless, they are interfering with gpu’s fans crating turbulence… I have the same case with 4090 and no bottom fans and great temperatures and airflow
Was trying to get some more air to the AIO mainly. Also, If I didn't add any in the bottom, people would complain about it, so that's another reason why.