L88, and L89, in my opinion are the best Chevy engines. I've seen the in Corvettes and Chevelle Malibus. AWESOME to see in person. God bless the 427. Sincerely, L. Albert Jackson Munoz
RE: 6:55 : Checking the spec numbers of the 454/425 engine in the Corvette ZR2, you have it labelled at 5.7 liters, if anything it would be 7.5 liters I'm sure others have noticed it too. I really like your show, I'm subbed now.
yes but that is the NET number...by comparison these older cars are over rated using the fake gross system..426 Hemi was only 350 net, and 440-6 was only 325 net....
@chadhaire1711 Actually, the numbers weren't fake. They just were made without a bunch of accessories sucking power from the engine. The net number was as it was installed in a car. If you were to check a channel called Nick's Garage, he tested a bone stock 69 426 Hemi and got well over the factory rating from it. I found it interesting that they plated with the numbers to make it easier to insure.
Let's see here, the last one, LS-7 was a 454, not a 427, while it was rated at 460 hp, it actually put out more like 600, same as the ZL-1. The LS-7 was never put in a production car. The L-72 427 put out at least 450 and the L-88 put out 540 hp and 560 lbsft of torque. As for the hemi, i'm sure that it put out at least 500 hp. Also, what they showed to be an LS-7 Corvette was actually a LT-1 Vette, you can see that in the video. Chevy NEVER put the LS-7 in a production car, it was an over the counter race motor. I'm sure this comment will open up a big can of worms, but so be it.
WARNING !!! ... This video is hopelessly screwed up and wrong! These young video makers need to run their scripts past an older knowledgeable person before making these totally WRONG videos!
This list is very misleading. hare are a few you missed, Ram Air V (475 HP) Pontiac 421 Super Duty (468 HP) Pontiac 428 H.O (425 HP). This does not even include the engines that got into cars that were WAY more powerful than their "official rating". Such as the 1972-73 455 S.D. that Pontiac scammed the EPY with that was in the low 500's. Do better research.
Most of your claims wrong, also aren't engines regular car buyers could buy... Ram Air V over the parts counter only... 1963 421 Super Duty 405 HP (480+ HP) was semi available... 428 HO about 390+ HP... '70's 455 S D about 400 HP...
@@brunosiegenthaler7001 I am very right-----try learning the difference between GROSS horsepower ratings and NET horsepower ratings.....The alloy 427 was not made for more horsepower, it was made for less weight.
Carroll Shelby admitted in a 1987 interview that he personally did not like the Cobra by design, the original 427 side-oiler engine, the cramped seating, and the engine so close to the firewall. He did not like that it had no hardtop. However, he appreciates the fact that it is successful in car enthusiast culture. Although he likes the Mustang Shelbys he built with Ford, he also helped Dodge with the design of the Viper. The 1970 Cuda is 375 hp hemi engine government was cracking down horsepower 427 = 435 hp copo central office production order 454 = 390 hp I worked in a car Restoration shop again government was holding back the horsepower. I have been in a 454 Camaro with 450hp and 500 ft lbs of torque it had been upgraded slightly
LS7 actually a 454 Cui which is 7.4 Liter and not 427 Cui or 7.0 Liter. Only one car are ever fitted with that engine from factory. Rest of them are dealer installed. According to Sports Car Graphic, with wide ratio 3.36 final, the car still able to hit 13.8 sec for 1/4 mile. You can imagine how fast it is on close ratio and slick. Probably hit 12 sec or high 11.
They developed the LS7 for the MY71. As far as I know, a car reporter found it too strong during testing and the idea of making an LS7 454cui ultimately became the LS6 for 1971.
My 1957 Oldsmobile 98 would put the speedometer needle halfway across that fuel gauge between 0 and 120 MPH! i0.wp.com/www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/8888.jpg
It is inconceivable that the L88 Corvette was not even mentioned, and it had the highest rated horsepower of ANY stock American car to date. This egregious oversight calls into question the validity of any information given in this VERY inaccurate video, not only of the Corvette but a few of the others as well. Do your research before making a video and presenting it to a nation of motorheads.
The 68 Dart with the A-990 drag racing version of the 426 HEMI. Grossly underrated at 425 HP (actual 609 HP). Why this car nails the 1/4 mile in 10.2 seconds at over 130 MPH on skinny tires (D78-14 (195/75R14))
A muscle car must be the two door, sport roofed version of the four door , formal roofed model. It must be a full size or intermediate chassis. If it is not that then it is something else. A sports car must be a two door, roof optional, inline engine in the front but behind the front axle centerline, manual transmission and rear drive. A gt car is any mix of these on any chassis but comfort is important. Camaro, mustang, challenger , amx and the like are pony cars. Pony cars can also be GT cars.
Muscle cars are mid sized family cars with big engine from full sized car... Muscle car can be 2, 3, or 4 doors... topped or convertible... automatic or manual... not a sports car or pony car or truck or body less... (big '71 - '73 Mustangs and heavy '70s Camaro/Firebird kinda close to muscle cars)
@@buzzwaldron6195 they are not. The engine has almost nothing to do with them being a muscle car. The body and trim package is what made it a muscle car. The pony cars were America's answer to European sports cars. A sports car must be... Inline four or six mounted behind the front axle center line, a manual transmission, two seater with or without roof, two door, rear wheel drive. The closest things we had back in the day was a thunder bird or a Corvette. So the big four made pony cars. Muscle cars are specifically a two door sport roofed version of the four door formal roofed model of a full sized or intermediate chassis. A mustang was never a muscle car, a nova can be. A Camaro is not but the Impala can be. The challenger possibly could be due to the satellite but since the challenger was their own model line it is not.
@@robsorgdrager8477 - How did you get so wrong? A sports car can have a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 , 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 cylinder engine mounted anywhere as long as it is smallish, sporty, good handling, fun amount of power for its weight... Hot Rod Magazine long ago described a "muscle car" as I did... although they also specified a minimum of 14 seconds or quicker in the 1/4... trim has nothing to do with being a muscle car... Pony cars are cute little cars aimed at secretaries... although Camaro/Firebird/Barracuda took that a little more seriously...
@@buzzwaldron6195 by definition, not by what you feel is correct. Always remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion even if it's completely wrong 😏. I'm just going off the definition.
@@chadhaire1711 - The L88's 430 HP rating was just to get it under the street 427's 435 HP rating so kids wouldn't order it... the L88 actually had 560 HP, but the maker of this video doesn't know that...
@@buzzwaldron6195 No engine back then put out 560 horsepower...they were all overrated using the fake gross system that was banned after 1971. This involved removing all exhaust, air filters, and belts then running on a dyno. That is the GROSS number. The NET number is when they put all that back on, in which you have lost 18-20%. Thus the 454 450 hp was only 330 hp, the 426 425 hp Hemi was only 350 horsepower....all the redone numbers were in the factory parts catalog starting in 1972. The 435 rating was only 360 net. No 454 or 427 ever put out 560 gross, or anything near it. That was a sales pitch to sell cars. Even the Baldwin-motion after market street racers with 454 and 427 motors were rated at 500 gross and they had the full mods. There is no way a 560 gross horsepower car would have been drivable on the street back then, Baldwin tried. The 560 hp rating of those 427 and 454 engines is and always has been a myth.
You have almost all the facts about the ZL-1 Camaro wrong. And you were clearly showing Barracudas with 440ci engines, not hemis. And most (if not all) of the horsepower ratings were the low-ball claims they made to downplay what they really had. There were several engines in muscle cars putting out 575-600 horsepower.
Bullshit...no engines back then were under rated...they were all over rated using the fake GROSS system with dyno bare engine. After adding muffler, air filter, and belts you have lost 20%. After 1971 ALL cars have to be rated net. 426 is 350 net, 440-6 is 325 net. there were NO muscle cars from that time putting out more than 370 hp.
Hottest regular production engine installed was semi-race 560 HP Chevy L88 427" deceptively labeled as 430 HP... so rich kids wouldn't order it over the street 435 HP 427"...
All these horsepower numbers are fake....based on the outlawed GROSS system that was banned after 1971. Gross is a dyno number with muffler, air filter, and belts missing. But put those items back on and you get the NET horsepower which is 18-20% LESS. After 1971 ALL cars have to be rated NET. The 426 was advertised at 425 hp, but is only 350. The 464 was listed at 450 hp but is only 365. NONE of the cars from that time ever put out more than 370 hp. The 2024 Dodge 5.7 beats them all at 375 hp NET.
@@ryze9153 wrong.....you watch too many youtube videos....426 425 hp gross at 5,000 rpm.....can go 465 hp gross at 6,000 over revving but that can destroy the motor.....which is why they came only a 90 day warranty. 425 gross is 350 net, 465 gross is 365 net. Even if you had a hand made custom 426 at 490 gross that is only 395 net.....any modern V-8 can beat that. My numbers are 100% correct.
@@chadhaire1711 idgaf about your numbers. its just a damn shame that those awesome big blocks werent as powerful as i thought. and i know those old motors were not power efficient for their size but i mean god damn, those things were fuckin big. i wasnt around back then but fuckin 1970s or whatever past time period i can blame. im not a boomer but this is fuckin bullshit.
Chryslers 426 hemi actually made over 500 horses till chrysler detuned it for street use. Rumour had it that it could smash out closer to 600 if unleashed.
The street issue 426 Hemi was a homologation effort to make the engine legal for use on NASCAR and NHRA events. Actual "racy" 426 Hemi engines were the real deal and made big power that is the stuff of Muscle car MOPAR legends and tall tales but you couldn't actually get something along those lines in street car "as delivered". The street Hemi in comparison to the RACY versions at drag strips and nascar tracks was fairly tame. Way down on Compression in the 10-10.5:1 range and by 1970 it even had a hydraulic cam for reliability replacing the previous racier mechanical design. Don't let the appearance fool you. The street car 426 Hemi was nothing close to what Sox and Martin was running at the drag strip and nothing close to what Richard Petty was running at NSACARs big oval tracks for power. Could you get 500HP out of a street HEMI? Sure but you'd have to dig in and change stuff first. They were no where close that number in stock configuration. Real race engines unleashed on the street in production cars are pretty unusual from any manufacturer. Chevy gave you the possibility to order an L88 and all aluminum ZL-1 427 with stupid for the street 12.5:1 Compression, big lift mechanical cam and lighter weight value train pieces between 1967 n '69 but these were super small production, most people didn't know what they were and even Chevrolet went out of their way to discourage purchase from anyone other than people who wanted to take their car directly to the track. L88 Corvettes were stripped of virtually any creature comforts. The factory even rated the engine 5 HP lower than the 427 they would prefer to see street car oriented buyer purchasing. The ZL-1 was a one year only offering. Just 2 or 3 Corvettes actually got one. The engine was mostly a result of an attempt to lighten up the front end of Camaro race cars at the drag strip. Again GM wasn't looking to sell this car to anyone beyond race teams and no where does that become more obvious than the price tag. A $,4,000+ engine option in a $3,500 car is all the proof needed for that. Both of these engines actually could make the 500-600HP with nothing more than headers and extensions replacing the stock exhaust. The list in the video goes off the rails when talking about Chevy engines. The 454's mention were good engines and on advertised power the list is accurate but most any Chevy guy knows the '67-'69 L88 and the '69 only ZL-1 were bigger power engines from the factory. Chey wouldn't top the power made by these two offerings until the 21st century and the introduction of Super Charged late model Camaro and Corvette engines came along. As for Chrysler's HEMI they absolutely could have done the same with it's 426 Hemi in street car. NASCAR Hemis and Drag Racing Hemi cars were doing it but for what-ever reason Chrysler didn't do what Chevy did and offer something that crazy in street going production car. You could still do it yourself but you'd have to add that extra compression and valve train required to make it happen after purchasing the car. They never offered it up as a production engine in a street car you could just buy, rip off the exhaust then go racing with that much power "on tap" from the factory. Did Ford ever offer this up? I'm not a Ford guy. I've owned MOPAR and Bow Tie cars only so maybe a Ford guy could chime in.
There is almost nothing correct on this list and some of the cars shown didn’t even have the motors that were being talked about. Lots of other high power cars weren’t even mentioned.
OK... at 06:54... one of many many mistakes in this video... And I think 1970 Corvette had LS6 engine... not LS7 iron 454", which was only available over the parts counter...
1970 LT1 350" Corvette rated 370 HP in early literature... but only 360 HP version actually installed... 1970 454" rated 460 HP in Corvette, 450 HP in Chevelle... L88 427" rated 430 HP but actually 560 HP @ 6600 RPMs...
@@buzzwaldron6195 BULLSHIT....no chevy 427 or 454 ever put out more than 450 gross...which was only 365 NET.........you are no clue just spewing BULLSHIT kid. L88 was 365 NET.
Tres beau reportage sauf qu`ils y a beaucoup d erreur dans le topo pour le nombre de HP dans plusieurs catégories de moteur sont completement faux,vous lisez trop de spec de l usine la réalité est toute autres la Viper a 450 HP fait moi pas rire c est 715 HP, la Chevelle SS 454 a 450 HP ont devraient lire 575 HP et tous sa c est de compagnie qu` elles sont comme sa dites donc les vrai choses au lieu de prendre les gens pour des imbéciles. C est de valeur gacher un bon reportage avec de belle image original Ceux qui sont d accord avec moi se manifesteront aussi merci de m avoir luent
The Chevrolet Corvette and the Shelby Cobra is not a muscle car, they are purpose-built sports car.
Umm a zl1 camaro has an all aluminum 427 ci big block. You were combining the L72 copo cars with the zl1.
L72 COPO 9561, ZL1 COPO 9562
AI voice, what do you expect?
These are all Rated HP numbers. The L88 is the King period by far....
The 68 Hemi dart would roast anything in the 1/4 back in the 60s....including the Shelby Cobra.
@@markdubois4882 The Hemi Dart was a specialized vehicle made 100% for drag racing so your comment is kinda lost
@@bluesky-ud9wg they made more Hemi darts than zl1 Camaros (80 vs 69)
L88, and L89, in my opinion are the best Chevy engines. I've seen the in Corvettes and Chevelle Malibus.
AWESOME to see in person. God bless the 427.
Sincerely,
L. Albert Jackson Munoz
Funny how times change. My family car has 670 horsepower from the factory. 3.8 ,0-60. , 11.8 quarter mile time.
Checkout 10:28, this thing is actually spitting out Viper Venom. That cameraman was taking a huge risk by getting that close.
RE: 6:55 : Checking the spec numbers of the 454/425 engine in the Corvette ZR2, you have it labelled at 5.7 liters, if anything it would be 7.5 liters I'm sure others have noticed it too. I really like your show, I'm subbed now.
427 with 425 GROSS horsepower is only 350 NET horsepower....only 15 more than a 2023 Camaro V-6 at 335 hp net.
Distributorless ignition in the 71 ZR2? WAY ahead of it's time!!
Was before even...
Transistorized Ignition. Biden has come close to as much sense
Buick GSX stage 1, Oldsmobile 442 ????
Pontiac RamAir IV or the 455 HO.
@@bunk-bn9eo RA IV on a Firebird 400, only a L78 Nova was faster with a rear seat.
Buick did have a GSX Stage 1 w/455 Buick engine.
@@BobbyTucker He asked why they are not mentioned...thenagain a GSX is heavier than a plain jane optioned GS STG1.
In 1999 the Dodge Viper ACR had 460 HP and 500 LB-FT of torque out of the factory.
Yes but that is not considered a classic by the definition used in the video. I do think the Viper is a modern classic.
yes but that is the NET number...by comparison these older cars are over rated using the fake gross system..426 Hemi was only 350 net, and 440-6 was only 325 net....
@chadhaire1711 Actually, the numbers weren't fake. They just were made without a bunch of accessories sucking power from the engine. The net number was as it was installed in a car. If you were to check a channel called Nick's Garage, he tested a bone stock 69 426 Hemi and got well over the factory rating from it. I found it interesting that they plated with the numbers to make it easier to insure.
What's the engine that keeps out running all the police cruisers in all those videos? Is it the hellcat? All I remember is it had a super charger.
holy smoke,that's kick ass design the Chevrolet Corvette which look like came out from a movie
That Dodge Viper Is CRAZZZYY 😮❤
It’s just a dodge
Let's see here, the last one, LS-7 was a 454, not a 427, while it was rated at 460 hp, it actually put out more like 600, same as the ZL-1. The LS-7 was never put in a production car. The L-72 427 put out at least 450 and the L-88 put out 540 hp and 560 lbsft of torque. As for the hemi, i'm sure that it put out at least 500 hp. Also, what they showed to be an LS-7 Corvette was actually a LT-1 Vette, you can see that in the video. Chevy NEVER put the LS-7 in a production car, it was an over the counter race motor. I'm sure this comment will open up a big can of worms, but so be it.
I own a 2015 corvette stingray and i love it!
Awesome ! 😎👍
Thank you! Cheers!
1967-1969 Corvette with the L88.....
WARNING !!! ... This video is hopelessly screwed up and wrong! These young video makers need to run their scripts past an older knowledgeable person before making these totally WRONG videos!
And 2 units ZL1 in 1969.
But he told ZR1 1970 BUT ZR1 was a RPO for 1971 that include the LT1 350cui, not 427. RPO ZR2 was a LS6 454cui.
1970 ZR1 had a 370 LT-1 350...no LS-7 was ever installed in a car
why did you leave out the 69 Z/28 cross ram , just a shade under 500 HP
426 Hemi,425 horsepower? You can take a spark plug wire off and pull 425 horsepower.
426 Hemi was 425 gross at 5,000 and only 350 net....2023 Dodge 5.7 is more at 375 net......stop spreading bullshit kid
This list is very misleading. hare are a few you missed, Ram Air V (475 HP) Pontiac 421 Super Duty (468 HP) Pontiac 428 H.O (425 HP). This does not even include the engines that got into cars that were WAY more powerful than their "official rating". Such as the 1972-73 455 S.D. that Pontiac scammed the EPY with that was in the low 500's. Do better research.
Most of your claims wrong, also aren't engines regular car buyers could buy...
Ram Air V over the parts counter only...
1963 421 Super Duty 405 HP (480+ HP) was semi available...
428 HO about 390+ HP...
'70's 455 S D about 400 HP...
All bullshit numbers 72 455 was only 290 net
The last car in the vid is a LT1 350, not a LS7. This not exist in 1970.
I was laughing so hard when he said LS7 on the 1970 vette with the LT1.
Why is a viper in a video about classic muscle cars? =
I thought that was funny too.
Got almost everything wrong about the engine for the #1 car.. engine code L88 not LS7 witch came in a 2008 Corvette.
1970s LS7 454" available over the parts counter... about 580 actual HP...
@@buzzwaldron6195 wrong....450 gross and only 365 net...you have no clue what you are talking about, pulling these numbers out of UR ass
You are exactly right thanks for educating some of these newbies that think they know something about cars@@buzzwaldron6195
Non of the cuda's in thuis video had a hemi in it lol
No L88?
ZL1 430 horsepower? More like 550 horsepower.
Rated 430 HP... actual about 530 HP with headers... aluminum heads(& block) bleed off heat/HP, but save weight...
BULLSHIT....NO chevy big block came close to 500.....was only 365 net
@@buzzwaldron6195 bullshit
what about the 69 Vette ZL1? That car made well over 500hp
Video thinks ZL1 is a car model name for '69 Camaro... LOL!
Thinks ZL1 vehicles had L72 engines... CRAZY!
@@buzzwaldron6195yes crazy, very wrong. Zl1 was the engine. 1969 corvette 2x Zl1 from factory.
wrong..that was only 365 horsepower net...you are using fake gross numbers
@@chadhaire1711 ZL1 was 365hp? 🤣 you're very wrong. This hp performance is L76 small block. ZL1 is a all aluminium engine 427cui.
@@brunosiegenthaler7001 I am very right-----try learning the difference between GROSS horsepower ratings and NET horsepower ratings.....The alloy 427 was not made for more horsepower, it was made for less weight.
Besides, the REAL "muscle cars" were in the Early 60's not the late 60's. I challenge anyone to have a gentle debate on this topic.
Carroll Shelby admitted in a 1987 interview that he personally did not like the Cobra by design, the original 427 side-oiler engine, the cramped seating, and the engine so close to the firewall. He did not like that it had no hardtop. However, he appreciates the fact that it is successful in car enthusiast culture. Although he likes the Mustang Shelbys he built with Ford, he also helped Dodge with the design of the Viper. The 1970 Cuda is 375 hp hemi engine government was cracking down horsepower 427 = 435 hp copo central office production order 454 = 390 hp I worked in a car Restoration shop again government was holding back the horsepower. I have been in a 454 Camaro with 450hp and 500 ft lbs of torque it had been upgraded slightly
That's why Shelby owned a Daytona coupe, which was a hard top.
LS7 actually a 454 Cui which is 7.4 Liter and not 427 Cui or 7.0 Liter. Only one car are ever fitted with that engine from factory. Rest of them are dealer installed. According to Sports Car Graphic, with wide ratio 3.36 final, the car still able to hit 13.8 sec for 1/4 mile. You can imagine how fast it is on close ratio and slick. Probably hit 12 sec or high 11.
They developed the LS7 for the MY71. As far as I know, a car reporter found it too strong during testing and the idea of making an LS7 454cui ultimately became the LS6 for 1971.
ZL-1 Camaro ran low 11's with slicks etc in a Hot Rod mag test
@@mikatamminen2786 they lied
@@chadhaire1711 Nope but cheated yes.
Owned a 70 454 cowl induction chevelle and you could peg the speedometer with no trouble.
My 1957 Oldsmobile 98 would put the speedometer needle halfway across that fuel gauge between 0 and 120 MPH!
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wrong..top end was 117 mph
What about the Viper with 650 horses..?
That is a modern classic, same as the hellcat with 707 horsepower.
That's a modern classic, same as the hellcat 707 horse motor.
It is inconceivable that the L88 Corvette was not even mentioned, and it had the highest rated horsepower of ANY stock American car to date. This egregious oversight calls into question
the validity of any information given in this VERY inaccurate video, not only of the Corvette but a few of the others as well. Do your research before making a video and presenting it to a nation of motorheads.
L88 "rated" 430 HP... actual 560 HP with iron heads and headers...
@@buzzwaldron6195 bullshit......was 365 net..NO Chevy big block came close to 560 gross...never happened..
The 68 Dart with the A-990 drag racing version of the 426 HEMI. Grossly underrated at 425 HP (actual 609 HP). Why this car nails the 1/4 mile in 10.2 seconds at over 130 MPH on skinny tires (D78-14 (195/75R14))
Uh, no
@@bluesky-ud9wg why no?
@@markdubois4882 Are you referring to the L023 car?
@@bluesky-ud9wg yes
@@markdubois4882 Lol, they were HARDLY on pizza cutters.
A muscle car must be the two door, sport roofed version of the four door , formal roofed model. It must be a full size or intermediate chassis. If it is not that then it is something else. A sports car must be a two door, roof optional, inline engine in the front but behind the front axle centerline, manual transmission and rear drive. A gt car is any mix of these on any chassis but comfort is important. Camaro, mustang, challenger , amx and the like are pony cars. Pony cars can also be GT cars.
Is this fact, objectively?
I been meaning to check this out but I never did. Over here its all just "muscle car".
Muscle cars are mid sized family cars with big engine from full sized car...
Muscle car can be 2, 3, or 4 doors... topped or convertible... automatic or manual... not a sports car or pony car or truck or body less... (big '71 - '73 Mustangs and heavy '70s Camaro/Firebird kinda close to muscle cars)
@@buzzwaldron6195 they are not. The engine has almost nothing to do with them being a muscle car. The body and trim package is what made it a muscle car. The pony cars were America's answer to European sports cars. A sports car must be... Inline four or six mounted behind the front axle center line, a manual transmission, two seater with or without roof, two door, rear wheel drive. The closest things we had back in the day was a thunder bird or a Corvette. So the big four made pony cars. Muscle cars are specifically a two door sport roofed version of the four door formal roofed model of a full sized or intermediate chassis. A mustang was never a muscle car, a nova can be. A Camaro is not but the Impala can be. The challenger possibly could be due to the satellite but since the challenger was their own model line it is not.
@@robsorgdrager8477 - How did you get so wrong?
A sports car can have a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 , 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 cylinder engine mounted anywhere as long as it is smallish, sporty, good handling, fun amount of power for its weight...
Hot Rod Magazine long ago described a "muscle car" as I did... although they also specified a minimum of 14 seconds or quicker in the 1/4... trim has nothing to do with being a muscle car...
Pony cars are cute little cars aimed at secretaries... although Camaro/Firebird/Barracuda took that a little more seriously...
@@buzzwaldron6195 by definition, not by what you feel is correct. Always remember, everyone is entitled to their own opinion even if it's completely wrong 😏. I'm just going off the definition.
where are the mustangs like ford mustang shelby gt500 super snake ? pontiac gto and many more powerful muscle
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What about 1969 Chevrolet Camaro yenko does it have 600 hp but it's stock i think im wrong
Yenko/Motion/Baldwin/etc. engines could be modified by the dealer... not factory produced stock engines...
What about FORD GT40
Race car isnt it?
Not a production car
@JohnSmith-rw8uh yes they are but corvettes are to
@@ivanboykin8185The original GT40?
@Fred_NaughT yes i believe they were from 1964-1969
All great cars,beautiful,damn sexy,but....they cant make a turn.
They turn good enough...
According to Rust Valley Restorers, every car made in the 60s and early 70s has 450 hp and 500 ft.lbs of torque. Lol. Even if they're just scrap.
WRONG...fake gross numbers..no car back then put out more than 370 net...the Hemi was only 350 net.
Wheres the GT 500 on this list lol, it has 500 ft of torque to the wheels easily the fastest muscle car from the 60s and 70s era.
Most GT500s back then were slugs... especially after Ford took them over from Shelby in 1969...
BULLSHIT..no Ford ever did 500 at the wheels...LOL...
Where's the L88 ?
Only rated 430 HP... so he left it out... LOL!
@@buzzwaldron6195 430 gross is only 350 net horsepower....any 2023 Dodge with 5.7 V-8 puts out 375 net and would beat it.
@@chadhaire1711 - The L88's 430 HP rating was just to get it under the street 427's 435 HP rating so kids wouldn't order it... the L88 actually had 560 HP, but the maker of this video doesn't know that...
@@buzzwaldron6195 No engine back then put out 560 horsepower...they were all overrated using the fake gross system that was banned after 1971. This involved removing all exhaust, air filters, and belts then running on a dyno. That is the GROSS number. The NET number is when they put all that back on, in which you have lost 18-20%. Thus the 454 450 hp was only 330 hp, the 426 425 hp Hemi was only 350 horsepower....all the redone numbers were in the factory parts catalog starting in 1972. The 435 rating was only 360 net. No 454 or 427 ever put out 560 gross, or anything near it. That was a sales pitch to sell cars. Even the Baldwin-motion after market street racers with 454 and 427 motors were rated at 500 gross and they had the full mods. There is no way a 560 gross horsepower car would have been drivable on the street back then, Baldwin tried. The 560 hp rating of those 427 and 454 engines is and always has been a myth.
@@chadhaire1711 - running headers lets you enjoy the full grossHP...
LOL, 1970 LS7, LOL. OMG.
gross HP. 13.9 quarter mile, LOL. Not too impressive. But they sound great.
You have almost all the facts about the ZL-1 Camaro wrong. And you were clearly showing Barracudas with 440ci engines, not hemis. And most (if not all) of the horsepower ratings were the low-ball claims they made to downplay what they really had. There were several engines in muscle cars putting out 575-600 horsepower.
Bullshit...no engines back then were under rated...they were all over rated using the fake GROSS system with dyno bare engine. After adding muffler, air filter, and belts you have lost 20%. After 1971 ALL cars have to be rated net. 426 is 350 net, 440-6 is 325 net. there were NO muscle cars from that time putting out more than 370 hp.
Hottest regular production engine installed was semi-race 560 HP Chevy L88 427" deceptively labeled as 430 HP... so rich kids wouldn't order it over the street 435 HP 427"...
bullshit...no engines were ever under rated..total myth.....no big block ever came closes to 500 hp...
@@buzzwaldron6195 bullshit...no 427 or 454 ever made anything near 500 hp....
All these horsepower numbers are fake....based on the outlawed GROSS system that was banned after 1971. Gross is a dyno number with muffler, air filter, and belts missing. But put those items back on and you get the NET horsepower which is 18-20% LESS. After 1971 ALL cars have to be rated NET. The 426 was advertised at 425 hp, but is only 350. The 464 was listed at 450 hp but is only 365. NONE of the cars from that time ever put out more than 370 hp. The 2024 Dodge 5.7 beats them all at 375 hp NET.
Somebody who actually knows the truth.
@@ryze9153 wrong.....you watch too many youtube videos....426 425 hp gross at 5,000 rpm.....can go 465 hp gross at 6,000 over revving but that can destroy the motor.....which is why they came only a 90 day warranty. 425 gross is 350 net, 465 gross is 365 net. Even if you had a hand made custom 426 at 490 gross that is only 395 net.....any modern V-8 can beat that. My numbers are 100% correct.
@@chadhaire1711 idgaf about your numbers. its just a damn shame that those awesome big blocks werent as powerful as i thought. and i know those old motors were not power efficient for their size but i mean god damn, those things were fuckin big. i wasnt around back then but fuckin 1970s or whatever past time period i can blame. im not a boomer but this is fuckin bullshit.
@@chadhaire1711 YT removed my comment, i hate this god damn site.
@@ryze9153 But you got to listen to me and learn something
The LS-7 didn't have Ti intake valves nor was it ever factory installed in a Corvette so WTF are you talking about?
Chryslers 426 hemi actually made over 500 horses till chrysler detuned it for street use. Rumour had it that it could smash out closer to 600 if unleashed.
That's false. 360 SAE Net HP was it, with some 315 at the wheels.
Bone stock street hemis have maxed the dyno just under 500hp. Nothing to be ashamed of since compression ratio was very low.
The street issue 426 Hemi was a homologation effort to make the engine legal for use on NASCAR and NHRA events. Actual "racy" 426 Hemi engines were the real deal and made big power that is the stuff of Muscle car MOPAR legends and tall tales but you couldn't actually get something along those lines in street car "as delivered". The street Hemi in comparison to the RACY versions at drag strips and nascar tracks was fairly tame. Way down on Compression in the 10-10.5:1 range and by 1970 it even had a hydraulic cam for reliability replacing the previous racier mechanical design. Don't let the appearance fool you. The street car 426 Hemi was nothing close to what Sox and Martin was running at the drag strip and nothing close to what Richard Petty was running at NSACARs big oval tracks for power. Could you get 500HP out of a street HEMI? Sure but you'd have to dig in and change stuff first. They were no where close that number in stock configuration. Real race engines unleashed on the street in production cars are pretty unusual from any manufacturer. Chevy gave you the possibility to order an L88 and all aluminum ZL-1 427 with stupid for the street 12.5:1 Compression, big lift mechanical cam and lighter weight value train pieces between 1967 n '69 but these were super small production, most people didn't know what they were and even Chevrolet went out of their way to discourage purchase from anyone other than people who wanted to take their car directly to the track. L88 Corvettes were stripped of virtually any creature comforts. The factory even rated the engine 5 HP lower than the 427 they would prefer to see street car oriented buyer purchasing. The ZL-1 was a one year only offering. Just 2 or 3 Corvettes actually got one. The engine was mostly a result of an attempt to lighten up the front end of Camaro race cars at the drag strip. Again GM wasn't looking to sell this car to anyone beyond race teams and no where does that become more obvious than the price tag. A $,4,000+ engine option in a $3,500 car is all the proof needed for that. Both of these engines actually could make the 500-600HP with nothing more than headers and extensions replacing the stock exhaust. The list in the video goes off the rails when talking about Chevy engines. The 454's mention were good engines and on advertised power the list is accurate but most any Chevy guy knows the '67-'69 L88 and the '69 only ZL-1 were bigger power engines from the factory. Chey wouldn't top the power made by these two offerings until the 21st century and the introduction of Super Charged late model Camaro and Corvette engines came along. As for Chrysler's HEMI they absolutely could have done the same with it's 426 Hemi in street car. NASCAR Hemis and Drag Racing Hemi cars were doing it but for what-ever reason Chrysler didn't do what Chevy did and offer something that crazy in street going production car. You could still do it yourself but you'd have to add that extra compression and valve train required to make it happen after purchasing the car. They never offered it up as a production engine in a street car you could just buy, rip off the exhaust then go racing with that much power "on tap" from the factory. Did Ford ever offer this up? I'm not a Ford guy. I've owned MOPAR and Bow Tie cars only so maybe a Ford guy could chime in.
Theres no muscle like American muscle
That blue Corvette was smoking more than I like to see. Beautiful ride, but why so much smoke?
Yeah what was going on there? Looked like it had no rings in the engine 😂
Had a 68 vette 427 remove. Hardtop. 4 sp. I had it up to 145. Seemed to float.😅
There is almost nothing correct on this list and some of the cars shown didn’t even have the motors that were being talked about. Lots of other high power cars weren’t even mentioned.
Correction-454 ZR2 Corvette is 7439cc not 5,7 as you state
OK... at 06:54... one of many many mistakes in this video...
And I think 1970 Corvette had LS6 engine... not LS7 iron 454", which was only available over the parts counter...
Honorable Mention: The Ford Pantera at 330 HP! Just a incredible design! 9:24 That idiot almost hit that Ferrari! Thank you, great video!
It's not a FORD, it's a DeTomaso Pantera
Actually the 1966 L72 Vette was rated at 450hp in adverts initially...
Extremely rare, but I loved how they advertised the 450hp right on the aircleaner.
That was 450 GROSS. real horsepower was only 365 NET
@@chadhaire1711 still made a 1966 Convert Vette run 12.8.
1970 LT1 350" Corvette rated 370 HP in early literature... but only 360 HP version actually installed...
1970 454" rated 460 HP in Corvette, 450 HP in Chevelle...
L88 427" rated 430 HP but actually 560 HP @ 6600 RPMs...
@@buzzwaldron6195 BULLSHIT....no chevy 427 or 454 ever put out more than 450 gross...which was only 365 NET.........you are no clue just spewing BULLSHIT kid. L88 was 365 NET.
The 1965 Shelby Cobra 427 has 485 horsepower at 6,500 rpm and 480 lb-ft of torque at 3,500 rpm, perhaps do your research, not 425.
485 gross is only 375 net..big deal
Should've specified advertised hp so I didnt have to watch the video.
Tres beau reportage sauf qu`ils y a beaucoup d erreur dans le topo pour le nombre de HP dans plusieurs catégories de moteur sont completement faux,vous lisez trop de spec de l usine la réalité est toute autres la Viper a 450 HP fait moi pas rire c est 715 HP, la Chevelle SS 454 a 450 HP ont devraient lire 575 HP et tous sa c est de compagnie qu` elles sont comme sa dites donc les vrai choses au lieu de prendre les gens pour des imbéciles. C est de valeur gacher un bon reportage avec de belle image original Ceux qui sont d accord avec moi se manifesteront aussi merci de m avoir luent
No nowhere near 575
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