Asmongold Reacts to "Bolvar Fordragon: WoW's Savior or Total Wimp?!" | By Platinum WoW
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Asmongold watches a video by Platinum WoW, who explains the story behind one of the most important character in the upcoming Shadowlands expansion, from Vanilla/Classic WoW to Wrath of the Lich King becoming the Lich King and the present day becoming a Bit#!, Bolvar has sure went through a LOT...
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Bolvar was stronger however Sylvanas started dating the Jailor so he handed her all the Raid Loot.
GAHHHHH!!!!
Bolvar is the Paladin of Bahamut that became a Warlock of Tiamat, so he lost his former powers and had to grind his way back up in the new ladder. Arthas had a lot longer to achieve that, so it makes sense that Sylvanas would lose to Arthas but win against Bolvar. Also the fact that apparently all death knights draw power from the Shadowlands, and the Jailer is directly connected to the Lich King, or atleast the Helm of Domination, which he was wearing, if you'll recall.
Agreed Bolvar was stronger it's just the jailor had her back
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Bolvar hadn't gotten any new loot since Wrath, while Sylvanas has been grinding soul ash in Torghast since Legion and has a full set of legendaries at this point.
ooh now i understand why sylvanas was always missing and nathanos make us do all quests during legion and bfa. She was in shadowlands patch 9.0 grinding for legendary items and gather so much power and she doesnt need horde anymore because she poses more power than everyone in the game. When we finally reach to her level it was patch 9.1 kortia but sylvanas had 2 legendaries and we had just one. So we need a raid group to kill her or beat her idk i didnt do that raid :D Poor Bolvar he face that monster alone. But how did he survived, confusing. May be sylvanas want us to go shadowlands and she can torture us. 400 iq :D
Same goes for Tirion. He wears T10 in Legion?
I'm laughing so hard that I'm crying. The hair flying across the screen is too much lmao.
I know right, fucking gold.
Oh it's his hair :D :D :D now i get it...
It literally looks like nothing. It doesn't even resemble hair
I didn't notice it until someone pointed it out in the original video. Lol
The REAL LORE: Sylvanas knew Bolvar had a bondage fetish. How else would those dainty little chains have tied down a walking juggernaut of runed metal and smoldering fury? He enjoyed having his armor stripped off, but he was disappointed when she stopped with his helmet.
Based
lol
@@primary2630 yes, he wanted to be dominated
So Arthas put Bolvar in that BDSM position because Bolvar asked him to
"There must always be a lich king"
"Yeah, but actually no."
@Rose's Zen Garden greatest comment on that situation ever
he became the assistant to the assistant manager
Sylvanas is a Karen that asked to see the manager and actually had success
if you do the paladin quest for the ashbringer, you will see that tyrion did not die when he was dropped in lava. he was pulled out and captured by the demons, dying. you manage to rescue him but he still died, not before giving you his ashbringer and asking you to lead the paladins
@@martinivanov1319 V OMEGALLUL ljin
Bless the omnissiah
@@martinivanov1319 Legion was supposed to be the endgame of the Burning Legion. The stakes needed to be high. That meant important characters had to die. Or would you rather just have everyone keep their plot armor and act like it's just another expansion?
@@user-uq4gr5nl5o right, and the great shadow hunter died to a shitty warlock pet
@@Zelein another thing is that all these characters die extremely early into the expansion if I'm not mistaken
THEY DIDN'T EVEN NEED TO MAKE SYLVANAS BEAT HIM! She could have just last second tricked him and shattered his helmet , and opened the Shadowlands regardless, then have her YEET away
The ultimate evil of arthas is, that he tied up Bolvar (who was burnt) and lett him see the ice all around him, he porably was like "Haha you cant have any of it!"
The thing is they never really showed her getting stronger she looked the same, was still getting her ass kicked, then all of a sudden she gets essentially a number buff and takes down a super powerful dude, then we are supposed to just accept a, "look guys see how strong she is now" moment when everyone just saw plain old sylvanas, beating the lich king. They did not do a good job conveying how much stronger she got, they just said it if they showed her getting stronger and using her new found powers it would have been more acceptable. The way it appeared, thanks to them not actually portraying the strength she got, it just looked like vanilla sylvanas beating the lich king which just makes him look weak.
Yeah, but if people saw her getting stronger they would get suspicious... she already was acting a weird, and everyone got confused about her (both characters and players). If they knew she was getting some new powers from somewhere and was getting too strong, they would suspect her reasons to get to war and BfA would be a different game... we say it would have been better now but back then, the fans were ecstatic that there was a was between the factions again. Blizzard just gave them what they wanted...
They said she made a pact with the Jailor
@@dawn-blade Bolivar being the actual lich king would have been way stronger than just a death knight. I think darion would have put up a better fight then the one we were given.
@@necrona they could have shown even some of her power during the fight with Bolvar though. We got nothing other than some chains that popped up though. So it appeared that nothing was different with sylvanas and that is what mattered.
They've been hinting at her power increase. The whole point is that we are supposed to be wondering where she got this power, which we now know is the jailer. Just telling us how she's getting stronger would ruin the point, the mystery of it.
13:06 I mean... imagine the death knights going over there and like "So would some of you paladins die for us so we can raise you into more of us against the legion? Also hand over Tirion, thanks."
Don't think it would really work.
4:27 Now everything makes sense, that's why he lost his hair.
I made the Bolvar part of the Bolvar Northrend loading screen in art class. It’s one of the few things I made in art that I actually thought looked really cool
8:40 hit me in the feels man :,(
@@dawn-blade post nut clarity. after busting a nut you get a slap of depression becaus we know that when busting a nut all we get is fake happiness but we want real happiness but becaus we want happiness we go after the fake happiness thats only temporary and after the nut has been busted we snap back to reality and realize we did it again we went after the fake happiness again.
Guts Theme... Platinum WoW just leveled up in my eyes.
Onyxia > The Jailor
also we never defeated arthas he was literally defeated by a deus ex machina so arthus is stronger than an old god
Arthas and Argus are the only that killed us - the players - lorewise afaik.
@Gogo Apples yeah because of a miracle of the light--tyrion didn't kill him, the light itself intervened as a whole through the ashbringer and gave tyrion an OP superbuff for that strike
@Gogo Apples the books, also the "light grant me one last blessing" is very obviously implying that the powerboost he gains is a one time thing, and is just that--a massive powerup. whether the sword channels it, or tyrion himself, whatever--tyrion in that moment became a vessel of the light itself. probably not literally the entirety, but enough that it would have probably destroyed a lot of VERY powerful beings.
To be fair, if we fought Arthas with the legion artifacts, we would have bodied him like a bitch. In the lore, that was the high point of the adventurer in term of power
@@Wellshem I don't think that with the legion artifacts we would have bodied Arthas as easily as you think. Arthas did ice the wielder of ashbringer for the entirety of his fight. Also Arthas with just frostmourne was able to beat Illidan at his peak who killed a naaru which are supposed to be extremely powerful. However with all the artifact weapons actually beating Arthas without divine intervention might have been possible.
Im still upset when I as a new deathknight got into legion stuff before really feeling like I did anything and everyone started bowing to me. That felt so unearned...
I've never understood why they didn't make Bolvar just line up all the Scourge and let them be destroyed. It never made sense to me. I thought they would use him to fight the Legion, but that didn't happen. There were so many ways to be done with the Lich King and his Helmet, etc.
There will never be bad ass antagonists like Illidan or Arthas ever again in our lifetime. And that makes me sad.
Is illidan badass? Idk
Illidan is a cucklord
@@darylsdog9521 He was, at least during Warcraft3. He's just another reflection of Arthas, he tried his best for his people, in his own way, but in the end ruined everything. That's why the final fight at the end of Warcraft3 was so irony and so good at the same time.
illidian isnt dead dont worry. and devs told us he is chilling and to wtch the sky ingame
yeah, now we got dudes like Klaus Schwab and George Soros and antagonists. Fucking sucks
i love at 16:33 that the tauren boy is losing its shit and the elf is laughing like a maniac lmao
Bro platinum straight savage with that hairpiece. The most subtle roast in history.
Whats terrible about WoW: The writing, the gameplay
Whats great about WoW: The visuals, the gameplay
Don't forget the music. WoW Music is ALWAYS great.
Okay I'm gonna say it
BALDvar
There it is dood
Didn't Asmon already name his Character that back in Shadowlands Alpha?
The pvp scaling comment about Sylvanus and Bolvar killed me at the end.
The Four Horsemen do lead an attack on the Legion. The Legion tried to launch a counter assault to retake the Broken Shore and kill Illidan and Co but the Ebon Blade caught wind of the attack and wiped them out with the Horsemen and a bunch of undead dragons and griffon riders. So in the end they do save the world despite the shenanigans Bolvar forced them to do.
Also the Ebon Blade have a short story leading into Shadowlands that explained Bolvar was seeing small glimpses of the future for a while now and was building the Ebon Blade's power to deal with the dark presence he sensed(Jailer). Its a good story and explains that a lot of distrust existed between Bolvar and the Ebon Blade because of the questionable orders he gave during legion.
Bolvar Fordragon.
The alpha, beta male.
@8:20 yep that was me. I started playing in Cataclysm, and that's the loading screen when you get to Northrend zones.
I saw the Lich King and knew who that was, and this didn't look like him, so I went a looooooong time without knowing what the heck was going on until I actually watched cinematics from defeating raid bosses and had one of the biggest 'aha' moments in my WoW experience.
I hate what happened to Tirion. He was going to be the leader of the new Horsemen, that's why he died like that, so he could return and become a DK. But people cried so Blizz made it Mograine, but then Tirion died for nothing.
The infiuriating thing is that Tirion would gladly become a death knight in order to help save Azeroth
If Tirion became a DK, DKs D would have became too huge that every class would be irrelevant.
Tirion was one of the greatest paladins in history. Making him be the class that oposses his life's work would have been an insult to his memory.
@@user-uq4gr5nl5o Not at all considering the fact that Tirion wanted to put on the Helm of Domination back in Wrath
@@WeedStriker Putting on the Helm of Domination doesn't necessarily make you a death knight.
dat thumbmail doe
Talanji, Baine and Vol’jin: Yo Bolvar, who tempted Vol’jin to make Sylvanas warchief?
Bolvar: GET THE HELL OUT!!!
T.B.V: Ok, ok, sheesh
11:42 Look at chat going wild after sally hahaha
That's literally every time they see a girl.
they picked up on whitemane a little bit faster i think
Ah so this video is what primed Asmon for the "That's not what happened to Bolvar" comment when he saw the cinematic for Draonflight when Alexstraza breathes fire on some barren land and it gets rejuvenated. Made me laugh so hard.
4:00 he has valid point here. zack's chat never ceases to amaze me. wtf is karen of jailing :D
"people loved fordragon" I never knew who is was until after he sat on the throne......
you know what the best part is? apparently im hearing in order to destroy the Helm of domination you'd need powers beyond what Lei Shen was capable of in his prime.
let that sink in for a moment. Apparently the jailer power boost she got put her beyond the power of one of the biggest badasses in the lore.
13:05 : The reason why Death Knights don't just go to Paladins and be like " Ye we need his body, can we please come and get it? "
Is because Death Knights are literally machines based on 1 Goal. If the Lich king/Deathlord commands a Death Knight of Acherus to retrieve said corpse, they will do it regardless of the consequences, because that's how a Death Knight was created in the first place. Cold, remoseless, no mercy just pretty much all the negative emotions put into this overpowered sack of meat and bones with crazy abbilities. Just absolutely ruthless giving no care for the innocents. In fact they don't have much of a choice either, if they don't fight/kill they will lose their minds and just go crazy. Death Knights NEED to be in battle most of the time.
Some Death Knights like Thassarian have more control over their thoughts and such but since YOU as the player back then are the Death Lord you pretty much did what was commanded.
I think it completely makes sense to the Lore and it showed that Death Knights aren't the "good guys" but more of a Neutral killing machine that acts on a single purpose without having any regard of anything or anyone.
That thumbnail I’m dead lol
Just realised it was posted like 30 seconds ago pog.
lol the lich king basically works the front desk.
Weren't the allied race death knights supposed to be a consensual thing? Like when you start out, Bolvar talks about how you have chosen to make the ultimate sacrifice or something?
It's disgusting how little action and time they give to Bolvar in SL
"Bailiff of the Damned" made me LOL
The life-binder wasn’t even there just some red dragons because when it shows the dragons flying off in the distance they were all the same size not one being bigger than the rest
Man, I still get shivers when Bolvar takes over the throne
his eyebrow twitches are so expected
Wotlk and that song WILL Always be the best it gives u chills
bolvar was always my favorite character when I first started playing wow back in vanilla I thought he was the king of SW and I used to think the black drake you can fight with him in there was so badass
months later and i still die when he throws the hair
Don't you mean "Lady Prestor was TWO of the best things in wow?"
The one year I was in Goldshire for this event, on Moon guard ironically, we didn't even manage to kill him before he left.
watching this vid today nostalgia hit me hard..
i remember reading about shadowlands and emerald dream on wowwiki.. imagination kicked in "brain explosion"... and here we are..
Came for the thumbnail
Came to the thumbnail
nice bro
16:28 I always thought they should make an addon that has loony toons sound effects.
maybe because Bolvar was only a half Lichking since, we did destroy(and recycle) Frostmourne, also as it stands Sylvanas was active all the time Bolvar slept, Arthas was actively gathering souls and became stronger Bolvar didn't. but agree the cinematic was BAD! I mean it's the king of the dead! (where the jailor kan be seen as a kind of God of death).
But if Sylvanas was that powerful she could have killed anyone on azeroth at any time she wanted pretty much. She can clearly fly and teleport anywhere as you saw in the orgrimar cinematic.
17:07 donno why but this always gets me 🤣
One logic issue I remember bugging me but the video reminded me of it. When you make a Undead Death knight, when you enter Undercity, how does the civilians even know your a death knight, undead, apart of the scourage, or however which one fits into the spot.
Blue glowing eyes
@@klabrdonko, there's plenty of undead with different glowing color eyes. I'm not really complaining, just one of those logic gaps that people can poke fun of and joke about.
16:05 the hair flying
It’s funny how the part that took the least effort for them to make had the best result.
Bolvar Fordragon is Lordaeronian? That's news to me.
I can't wait for the time he comes on stream literally bald
@16:00 Asmon's hair flies out of the bag second after a small sword... feels bald man
the pausing at the hair still kills me
I like how everyone he watches on stream just sprinkle in more and more of his subreddits memes lol
16:05 DID U SEE THAT CHAT POG
I hear berserk theme even for a second, deserves a like.
Dude, you don't even walk to the kitchen, you have a frig right behind you. LOL
Sylvanas watched a bunch of Rextroy videos and abused pvp scaling against Bolvar.
Death Knights: the only class that's hated by absolutely everyone both in lore and game
This is all about the Jailor and how strong/capable he is.
The Jailor created the Lich King and made him strong. Bolvar takes over the part, Bolvar is good at resisting the Jailor's influence and power. Therefore Bolvar becomes weak.
Sylvanas is in league with the Jailor. She is now empowered by the Jailor. Kicks Bolvar's ass.
The Jailor is the truly strong one.
The Jailor is trapped in a prison and manage to use/manipulate people to do his bidding one way or the other.
He's like a big mafia boss that's in prison but still manage to call the shots on the outside. :)
17:35 BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALD !
I am so sick of seeing Sylvanas. So bored with her being integral to WoW storylines. I would love to see Jaina, Thrall, and Bolivar go mid-evil on Sylvanas since she is mortal again. Thrall would be like "I'm gonna call up a couple hard-pipe-hitting orcs to go to work on Syl here with a pair of plyers and a blow torch."
The song down in the right corner... Tycho - A walk, such a chill song.. I totally forgot about it :)
So Bolvar got mindcontrolled easily by Onyxia with a necklace but he can withstand the Helm of Domination?
Well if you look, you'll see he's glowing orange with the flames of life. That is the reason he could not be controlled by the forces of death
lol
The Helm of Domination isn't as, shall we say, curvy. Since youtube didn't like my original draft lol
I haven't played WoW in awhile, but what happened to the original Ner'Zhul? I thought the spirit of Ner'Zhul was in the helmet the Lich King wears? Did something happen, or was he forgotten?
13:30 why didn't it make sense? The paladins would rather die than give tirion's body to the ebon blade
Bolver is basically a cupholder for the helm
Not the first time Blizzard changed their story after a cinematic. The hero from Diablo becoming the new Diablo in the 2nd game was done by the cinematic crew, not the writers.
She defeated him using borrowed power, curse we know will fail her in the end. Because those who use borrowed power suffer the inverse of the power once gone being even weaker than your base state when it was gained.
I would love to see a meme about the spider man, "everywhere I go, I see this"
LOL at the hair at 17:40
The part when he goes back and sees the hair is fucking funny god damn
Tirion Fordring death was so weak and would in no way have had happend in the lorewise, because of the fact that he is THE paladin, with the most in the holy light, even more than Anduin, and he could pull light shield in the damned of The Maw, so this is in fact, as stated by the man himself, "Horseshit!"
17:06 this shit is fire
Slyvannas was impowered by the maw from the jailer.
That thumbnail had me in stitches.
Then Taelia Fordragon becomes the new Lich Queen at the end of Shadowlands with a newly made helm to keep the restless scourage at bay...LOL. Tirion dying like that was such a joke as he can overpower spells of Arthus (Lich King) but not a minion of the Legion, WTF Blizz. That hairline flying across the screen PRICELESS as I didn't even see it the first time ....>
I thought we were going to get Fire DK’s in shadowlands because of Bolvar and the fire dk bone sword that leaked
We need fire for frost like how warlocks have green fire as an option after you do those quest lol
they took out "BITCH" out of the game
1:19
The hair was fucking priceless.
Forever the pausechamp
dude i didnt even notice the hairline and then when he played back i was laughing so hard!!!
Bolvar is like Jon Snow, fighting against the horde?? Wildlings?
Tbh I loved that DK campaign because you got to feel a bit evil for a bit
that hair bit though hahaha
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Guys, this reaction video has more views than the video itself. Go watch it and leave a nice comment. His videos are top notch he deserves views
People will do what they want
So players can't spit on each other, but the NPCs are free to...
Damn, I am too late for this but, the DeathKnights brute force their way in because the paladins with their stupid tenets would never allow that Unholy magic the literal opposite of the Light reaches one of the most righteous and powerful paladins in history of WoW. If they reached to them like Hey, we want Tirion´s body to create a hell of a Deathknigh. Probably the paladins would request extra reinforcements into light hopes chapel, creating a bigger massacre.