Mexican Strat-off | Fender Player Series vs Mexican Standard Stratocaster
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- We got our hands on matching white Player Series and Made in Mexico (MIM) Standard Stratocasters... and realise how confusing it can get doing a comparison video with guitars of the same colour!
We really do like the Player Series Stratocasters. We take an in-depth listen and feel of the new Alnico pickups which are classic strat spanky! In comparison, the old ceramic pickups almost sound like humbuckers... that buzz. Skip ahead to the 6:30 mark for the sound comparisons.
Special thanks to Music Junction Camberwell and the Etiemble family for lending us the Player Series and MIM Standard Stratocasters used in this video.
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This is literally the BEST comparison between new Strats and older MIM Strats on the internet. I don't know why it's buried all the way down in the search results.
This is THE best comparison of the 2 Strat generations that I have seen so far on UA-cam (and I've seen a lot of videos the last couple of weeks). First of all, you get a guy who knows how to play and use chords, not just a wannabe shredder. I'm a rhythm guitar player first, and a soloist second. It was refreshing to see a player who knows how to play a wide variety of chords and play rhythm in addition to fancy solo guitar licks. I can't find a used or new old stock Standard......so I'm going to get a new Player model, in buttercream finish very soon. If I DO find a used/NOS Standard, however, I'm fixing to buy in the future when I come across one. It has its place in my sound collection and I like ceramic pick ups. Thanks for posting this comparison video......great job!
Great video. He played MIM Standard in one episode with no smile. He played MIM Player Series in another frame exact same licks, A BIG HUGE SMILE. That says it all.
Scott S Damn right! A smile tells a million words!
I think the player series alnico pickups have a brighter tone... Awesome video guys... fender forever
Mine was so bright that I found it unusable
Great comparison video with nice side-discussion. You did a great job clearly labeling the differences between the guitars, and I was a big fan of the swipe-over comparisons - made it easy to distinguish the differences in sound. Great playing as well. Well done!
Standard seems to be a better all around tone. Would set well in the mix with a live band. Player series is so spanky and full of treble. Really cool vintage tone. As other comments have said you can just change tone nob on player to dull that top end. Great comparison video.
I prefer playing warmer ceramic pickups of the standard series.. Turn down the tone pot to 9 to have a better sound for player series
You are right. Just turn down the tone pot and done.
Player sounds very brittle clean in a live band mix, standard sounds warmer and turned up the clarity is awesome, I have both guitars
I really like the warm tone of the Mexican Standard
Right on me2 I'll stay with my 2017 mim..std....I also have a 1983 sq series 70s model Japanese Squier..a 96 American Standard Sonic blue ..2 Peavey American falcons.and a 1990 Yamaha 721 super strat so to sqy....I think I'm covered on the strat sound .
Best comparison I have seen yet Thank you...
Thanks ! Found the ultimate comparison, I'm looking for that polar white myself. This made it easy. 👍
The standard fender stratocaster mexico sounds exactly twice the size of the player. And the reason is not only the pick ups but above all else. The six-screw bridge is definitely another story!
Fantastic review. I’m digging the neck pickup on that Player.
Great video, Simply clear and useful 😇👍
Great job guys!! I have 4 Players and love them!!
great review guys !
Great comparison. I picked up a 2019 HSH a couple of weeks ago. Just so everyone knows the pickups that the Player currently is using are the same as the American Standard before they changed to the Fat 50s. The electronics are the same components that are in the American Standard. The bridge is also an American bridge. The saddles are marked Fender and don't have metric screws, they're imperial. Basically other than the neck, Fender has built a lower price American Standard. So far it's been a great instrument. Keep up the good work Gas TV!
Both are great but I prefer the warmer sounding ceramic pickups
Great review best one I've found so want this model 😁
This has made my mind up. Really useful
Great review. Subscribed
I really like how you compare the difference between two Fender Stratocaster, especially in clean tone. To me, I play Fender Stratocaster in the clean tone more than engaging the drive tone, or just use some TS9 or Boost to have some crunchy sound. Keep going and I am looking forward to seeing more video from you!!
I agree. When I listen to guitar comparisons it's much harder to compare tones with all the overdrive and distortion added...plus I just love the sound of a clean stratocaster.
Very helpful Video. I saw a few comparison videos with this two guitars and this is the best! (Strange?) Question: How many springs do you had in the claw of the tremolo system on the Player Series Strat?
Thanks for the kind words. We are trying to make these reviews as candid as possible to give you guys our feedback as working musicians. We figure it’s more valuable and fun to share our personal experiences and opinions rather than just do a straight comparison. We didn’t open up the back of the Player Series to check how many springs were in there. From another video we saw 3 springs that come as standard (I think).
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The players strats are basically the same as the older American Standard Strats...the players strat is the very best Strat fender has put out in a long while...just got mine paid $674 American dollars for it and worth every penny
The standard fender stratocaster mexico sounds exactly twice the size of the fender stratocaster player series. And the reason is not only the pick ups but above all else. The six-screw bridge is definitely another story!
Great review. Thanks 👍
Best review so far 👍👍👍
Now I know that I need to get both guitars. 😎 Thanks a lot! 😜
The player series have the brighter Alnico tone but they really are a weak pickup ,
Very squire like !!
The mim standard ceramics are prob the most versatile pickup going you can do everything
I definitely like the crispness of the player series. I have a PRS that sounds alot like the ceramic pickups so I ordered the HSS player strat.
The color on the standard, body and neck looks really sweet. Both could benefit from new pickups.
Hey guys I'm thinking of changing the pick ups of the Player, and use The Fat 50's instead. What do you think?
I want to get the HSS one with Floyd Rose, very few reviews on it.. I think all it needs is a white/pearl pick guard for looks..
Best comparison I’ve seen.
For the strokes? Strat Player sss or Deluxe Roadhouse sss?
What amp are you using
im getting one but what color? aaarrrrggh. anyway is the white player series that much more white than the standard mim? on the video the player looks SUPER bleach white, i like the more mellow white of the standard mim. is the player really that white?
Aaaaarrrrgggghhhhh! We feel your pain. You’ll only really notice it if you have them side by side. My favourite colour is the buttercream (yellow) to be honest, it’s a really nice yellow... check it out.
Great review love both guitars but the player series is the best sounding to me .great pickups
Idk why but the mim seems to be better
What a nice review. Congratz!
Do you believe that going from a Squier Classic Vibe 60' to one of these Fender Player Stratocaster is a great update?
Cheers
Whether you will prefer one guitar over another always has an element of subjectivity. Objectively speaking, there are number of significant improvements in the Player series over the Squier classic vibe: the satin neck, 2 point tremolo, 22 frets, tone control for bridge pickup. The pickups for both are Alnico V but my recollection (and Fender’s description) of the Squier is that it has a warmer, mid-range sound. The Player series pickups are likely voiced differently and are really spanky. It’s been a while since I played the Squier Classic Vibe but it certainly didn’t make me stop and think that I was playing something special they way the Player series has. Fender has done something really nice with the Player series strat.
Exactly 💯 percent
I do prefer the bridge pickup of Standard...more hot for hot tones. Player has weak pickups..
could someone help me to find a pre-2018 mexi strat?I live in australia
The standard is much better overall, higher ouput so you can set your amp overdriven and tame that with your vol knob on your standard Strat, put in a treble bleed and you're good to go, way more versatile guitar.
Killer video
I'll take the player alnicos any day of the week. The bass and compression on the standard feels in my face and not in a good way. I ordered the yellow one to mix it up with my gibsons. Life is not always bad.
Comparison starts at 6:30
Even thought everything said has been factual. There seems to be a bit of bias towards the mim strat (not the player series). Like a car, does one say a 1967 impala is worse than a 2023 impala because it doesn't have heated seats? 🤔
Best video ever!!!
You guys say GAS = Guitar Acquision Syndrome. I always said it as GEAR Acquisition Syndrome to it can extend to amps, pedals, etc. as well as any other hobbies you might indulge in. Regardless of my nit picking this video was very helpful for my. Thanks.
Thanks for the kind words. We say Guitar Acquisition Syndrome because it rolls more easily off the tongue and is more fun to say... and we still extend it to basses, ukuleles, amps, pedals, picks, straps etc.... because we’re crazeeeeee like that. Check some of our other videos out while you’re here and don’t forget to subscribe and yell us at some more in the comments... I’ll try to find a funny response to every single one.
how does the new player series stand against the 2018 American special ? I'm torned between the two ....which one to go for !
it's better than the old American Special, you have to remember the American Special was the entry level. the Player series is what the old American Standard used to be,
The American Pro and Pro 2 have the alnico 2 pickups, the Player has alnico 1 which was in the American Standard.
@@Jeymez thanks i bought the player plus(MIM) in perl white two months back in SSS configuration. 🙏It's beautiful bro!
@@sourav2328 sweet, how has it been since you had it.
@@Jeymez superb...it's slightly better than the player series...in terms of build and finish. Two point trem.. locking tuners and noiseless pickups. Some people complain about the pickup but I don't hear any difference. The fret board is delicious...you wouldn't get tired even after long hrs.
Just some feedback for you...great video, but I feel that the background music was unnecessary and distracting :)
Lol they were accidentally complimenting the standard until they realized they had the guitars mixed.. showing their bias . Just because it’s new doesn’t mean it’s better ... it’s just different
I think overall the player series is better in my opinion
they are also playing them for you to hear.
M so confused which 1 to buy, i jst want to play n get a tone like mateus asato, tom misch,ruben wan
Plsss suggest me which 1 yo get
A moderna é um upgrade da antiga por isso pela lógica deves comprar essa. E é a guitarra ideal se mais tarde quiseres mudar os pickups.
Why is your audio never in sync?
I'm firmly happy with the MIM standard. I have the 2017 MIM FSR Gilmour vibe ...It has the warmer tones but the one you have may just be dialed different than mine as mine is not quite as warm but not as bright and over twangy like the player. Which most preferred. I am a strange one i suppose. I love gilmours work...I like to stay closer to that. Most of his sound warmer and way less twangy. Strange too as he uses usa strats with his own pups which are a few different variants over the years. I do want a a tele next. Modern player. With the hss one lipstick. Nice.
I agree Robert. I much prefer strat tones of Gilmour or Pearl Jam than twangy stuff. I find the MIM in this video to sound pretty crappy (fuzzy and lacking spank) but I’ve heard demos where they sound amazing.
I’m looking for a warmer yet thick sounding strat in the $600 range. Something that can achieve Gilmour style tones (ex: Animals, Dark Side of the Moon) and that great tone from Pearl Jam’s Yellow Ledbetter for example. I’m just not sure where to turn. I’m thinking a more current MIM standard since quality control has apparently improved in recent years, though I also want a tremolo that doesn’t go out of tune so easily. Even my 97 American Strat had issues with the trem going out of tune instantly. Maybe I could upgrade the trem.
Would you recommend specific years of a Standard or other strat model to look for or avoid? Ceramic pickups or Fat 50’s? And when you say FSR Gilmour, did Fender make a specific MIM model tailored to the Gilmour style, or are you saying the FSR in general provides more of a Gilmour style tone?
Sorry for so many questions. Since your shooting for the same thing I am I figured maybe you could point me in the right direction. Thanks for any input you can provide.
@@graphicartdude Hi!! I'll be honest. I am happy with most omy guitars. I've found that since I perform only in my little camper studio, I am able to dial in tones that seem to be my own sound which is very gilmourish I suppose due to my playing style albeit not a pro....The strat I have is 2017 Dec built. Maybe one of the last Standards but under the Guitar Center or big box special runs FSR. They used to flood the market it now they do not sell them new anymore. It has the appointments like spaghetti logo , and the fender classic trem and not sure other than the neck maple also sprayed front and back with poly. Those are diff along with color scheme which was Black on black with 3 play black guard on black poly. Creme or parchment plastic knobs and pup covers giving it the gilmour appeal visually. The pups are the standard affair ceramic. I plan to put some alnicos in but mainly because I want to make this as close to DGs as possible albeit MIM I could care less with that as I know MIM and US are in spitting distance and use same tools and people and spec for the most part. Hahaha. To be honest man, Classic Vibe squier makes one now that looks same. They have alnicos. I know you and I like the warmer tones not country twang. Hahah. Anyway you might find one like mine used fair price! But check squier if that name doesn't bother you they have a 50s that looks the part and sounds magical for 399 usd!! Full size body. Beautiful necks! Same colors. I may release a David Gilmour string review today on my channel which will be a first for me playing the black strat or any guitar without all my effects. Hahahaha. You'll hear its tones but I didn't use my interface sadly.
Thank you kindly for the comment!
@@robertclarkguitar Wow thanks for sharing all of that! Muchly appreciated. I was actually looking into Squires. I’m not a brand snob. I picked up a used Squire Tele for $90 a couple years ago and am amazed how good of an instrument it is. Well made, great looking tobacco sunburst finish, decent tuners, lots of volume unplugged (which is usually a sign of a good guitar), plays well, and sounds good in my amps.
I grew fond of the ceramic pickups after hearing a particular demo here on UA-cam of a MIM Standard Strat played through a Kemper. It had that Gilmour tone.
I’m still in the learning process of which pickups sound more to my liking. I was considering a 2020 Player Strat (found a used one listed for $420) though I just don’t like the sound of them or the steep string angles from nut to posts and string tree (which I assume would be a pain to achieve tuning stability with whammy bar use). I guess I could swap the pickups and have a nearly New more modern guitar for cheap. Or maybe I should just go the Squire or MIM route.
I’ll do some more research into pickups and what Dave used. Thanks again for the quick and thorough reply. I’ll check out your channel for sure!
@@graphicartdude Cool, I would buy that player in a heart beat! Hahah. The string tree id swap for a t or roller. Perhaps a nice tusq nut. Should have no problems with tuning if set up right! But you already know that! Hahah. True about the squiers! I have neither of my strats floated but I have a Harley benton floated that has the 2 point wilkenson trem and tusq nut locking tuners and I have zero issues. Probably the set up is right. Hahah anyway I hope you find what you like! I'm very much in same boat. Looking for my own sound and really happy so far with what I have. In the 80s that was hard with affordable guitars. I guess they never paid attention to set up. Hahahah. Poor kids with bowed necks and all. Heheheh. Peace!
that's the exact colour I've order for a lefty version...waiting nearly 3 weeks now..obviously these are flying out the door as Fender are struggling to keep up with demand.
let us know what its like...I'm tempted to pick up one next and modify it for HSH etc
Airblazer there’s an HSH version you can buy stock just FYI
Aqueous_Tunes not left handed though :( , anyway while I was waiting the MIA fender Strat 2016 came back up for sale for only €250 more so ended up going for that :)
Airblazer well that’s an even better deal! Congrats on your awesome deal! 🤘🏻
mike dothan that’s shocking for a €650 guitar. I don’t care if it’s the cheaper version it’s still a wad of cash to be handing out.
Oh hey Melbourne fuck yeah
Cool video!
The old MIM standard has a fuller sound
AMEN TO YOUR EARS, I AGREE.
I bought both the standard and player, after a while, I decided to sell the player and keep the standard. The player seems like a better guitar than the standard, however, it is trying to be too perfect, too clean, too nice, too shiny, with the brand new alnico 5 and blah blah blah, all that's good and all, but I prefer the character, attitude and imperfection of the standard. Compared to the player, the standard is stupid loud and bassy, but you just need to dial down the volume and the low mid on your amp, then you can get that vintage tone.
Imo, there is no point in playing the standard with all the eq's pointing at 12 o'clock on your amp, you have to dial down the bass and the mid, because it is way too much on these Mexican standards, to the point that it masks all the higher frequencies and everything else. But as soon as you dial down the bass and the mid, you'll hear the familiar "straty-ness" that people talk about. It's not that complicated really. But I like the vibe on the standard way more, the player is too clean and vanilla.
The player sounds more thin to me vs the Mexican, guess it comes down to preferences at the end
I am really looking forward to this.I played the older one at a friends house.absolutely beautiful...and they wouldn't sell it to me because she paid over $2000 for it at a charity auction(every oz rock icon from the last 40 yrs signatures on it,but I didn't give a fuck.was about the sound for me).I offered 1000 which is the price for a mexi strat,she did not accept.Anyway,i played 3 mexican "player" series at my local music shop through my own mesa boogie amp like I did with my friends guitar and they just sounded like any guitar,not bad,but no strat beautiful wow factor...shithouse actually compared with my friends.One sounded the best,and the other 2 came in at 2nd and 3rd.
You legit offered $1000 for a used Mexican Standard???? Dude, WHY? That's way too much!! They normally go for like $400-$500, give or take. I just picked up a used 2017 model in excellent condition for $350.
@@RC-bs6eb this is australian money.and it was brand new,and signed by legends of Australian rock music
@@kaneo67 I somehow missed the part about it being signed by rock legends 😳 Whoops. Good thing I'm used to looking like a jackass 😂. Can I be forgiven for not catching on that you were talking Australian money, though?
both guys seem to agree that the player series sounds better but it clearly doesn't....fender really fucked up here.some other forum said that brightness of the player series is not well suited for live playing in bands...I am so glad I didn't get all turned on by the one I nearly bought at Byron music just cos it sounded the best of 3 and looked amazing....I need the older non-player one....
could someone help me to find a pre-2018 mexi strat?I live in australia
Na
The player s white looks pinky. All the pictures i see it s pinky. How is it in real ?
Me think s it look s white.
Prefer the lighter maple tint on the Player Strat.
Guys...you lost me a 12.20...The Standard pickup is not a humbucker that buzz's....Both Ceramic and Alnico single coils will outshine a humbucker.....on everything from recorded track to live....But thanks for you video
not true at all, so not they don't outshine it, single coil pickups generally are brighter than humbuckers, but during a recording they sound the same. Live is different than in studio, but in a live situation single coils can be heard louder through a speaker.
most bands run there guitar through pedals and amps, but in studio a Les Paul cuts better in a mix. with a Strat you have to make a few adjustments so that your not overpowering everyone else. there are better single coil pickups that helps eliminate some brightness.
The best guitar review. I find the modern player so bright that it was unusable, the old one is better . I returned my modern player and kept my old mex .
Did yours not come with tone knobs? Mine did. So I used them.
The Modern Player is a different series from the new Player series. The Modern Player is made in China and doesn't even compare to the Player.
have you guys stopped making videos permanently?
Gary C Thanks for your query. We really love making these videos, but Felix had to take a break to try and spend more time with his dad who was diagnosed with terminal cancer. 2 years later, dad passed away followed 2 mths later by last surviving grandma... just as COVID hit. We plan to get back into it but it’s been a little tough. Thanks for watching and showing your support, the more support we get the more motivation we have to get back into it sooner rather than later :). Hope you’re staying safe in these crazy times.
@@GASTV ah really sorry to hear that, it is a terrible way to go. Your videos were really high in quality so it was strange to see such effort seem to stop. I don't know much about the youtube world and gaining followers but your content and quality should have definitely gained you more subscribers. Take care guys
Are you two made in Mexico?
Yes
Gotta say yes
So basically the player is a standard with better pickups.
Player series sound more like a classic strat than mexican Standard
Cold at your head ?😂
🤣😅🤣😂🤣😅🤣
So confusing with hundreds of Strat models and years and no large guitar stores near me to demo. I much prefer strat tones of Gilmour or Pearl Jam than twangy stuff. I find the MIM in this video to sound pretty crappy (fuzzy and lacking spank) but I’ve heard demos where they sound amazing. I don’t like the sound of the Player Strat here either (at least for the tones I’m seeking).
I’m looking for a warmer yet thick sounding strat in the $600 range. Something that can achieve Gilmour style tones (ex: Animals, Dark Side of the Moon) and that great tone from Pearl Jam’s Yellow Ledbetter for example. I’m just not sure where to turn. I’m thinking a more current MIM standard since quality control has apparently improved in recent years, though I also want a tremolo that doesn’t go out of tune so easily. Even my 97 American Strat had issues with the trem going out of tune instantly. Maybe I could upgrade the trem on whatever guitar I get.
Knowing what sound I’m looking for could anyone recommend specific years of a Standard or other strat model to look for or avoid? Ceramic pickups or Fat 50’s? Again, I’m trying to stay within a budget, which I know reduces my buying options. Thanks for any input from anyone willing to assist.
Difficult to point you in any direction by I got a second hand deluxe HSS American Strat which has noiseless pickups and a humbucker on the bridge . The neck and middle don’t have that bright spank that the Player has but much more controlled and the bridge is just dynamite -polar opposite of a single coil . If you see a second hand Strat with noiseless pickups give it a go , might work for you or try a G and L as the pickups on their budget models are American and they are so much better than the Player ones .
You need to replace your pickups with EMG active single coils. That's the Gilmour sound your after it won't get you all the way their but it's a start.
Strats aren't twangy there bluesy, Telecasters with single coils are twangy. when you put effects pedals and different things through an amp, your not gonna hear that.
also i got news for you, Gilmour used an American Standard on all Pink Floyd albums not Mexican. Pearl Jam used a Gibson Les Paul in studio, one of the guitarist used a Strat live, but in Studio the albums were recorded with a Les Paul.
The player is better
mexican made looks cooler.
They're both made in Mexico.
Sorry, Mexican was better.