It's insanely rare to find coverage of Chinese arms and doctrines without an unbearable amount of manipulative narration or tone policing. *Refreshing*
It's refreshing to see a video really about PLA structure & equipment, without hearing a india accent talking about any political BS but the real deal.
@@PlumSack79 If you're so sure the PLA is paper tiger, why comment multiple times throughout this video trying to convince everyone? Sounds to me you aren't actually sure and are trying to convince yourself.
Glad to see PLA and ccp, a paper tiger, is on your mind everyday. It's like chinese talking about india or africa or something. They don't do it because they actually are paper tigers
@@BattleOrder A simple question. How did you manage to acquire such classified information used in the video, that the Chinese government does not disclose?
@@backleft4917 There are plenty of channels in China that are Govt approved and focus on Military stuff, Blogs and such also appear and no you dont get Arrested but it will magically Disappear 😏
Please keep doing PLA content, so hard to find it elsewhere. P.s. I don’t know if you’ve considered covering non-ground forces but content on the PLAN/PLAAF/PLARF would also be cool
Its actually not so hard to find info about PLA. You just have to know where to look. The sad news is, most of the sites are blocked by western media and Google.
An excellent look at one of the most relevant militaries in the world. The PLA heavy brigades are truly formidable forces, even if they were to operate under strength. Liked and subscribed, thanks for the great content.
Is it okay to think Chinese Aviation brigades are next?? No one covered that. Chinese Land Forces Aviation units are the only ones that will match US Army Aviation operation modality and size some day.
@@Old-Dog00 yea but it would be good to see american structure utilizing Mi-17 Type helo's. There gotta be significant difference. Chinese tend to put attack capability in all the helicopter's. US too have that, but not in a Chinese extent.
@@BengalLancer Helos are not as important as you make them out bro. The only time they are is during a deep air assault mission and you have hundreds of them transporting troops and material.
@@backleft4917 In the Korean war, Chinese guys are shocked because "These asswhole's bombs seems be free of charge and countless ......" U.S. guys are shocked because "These bastards are just can't be knock down, no matter how many tons of bombs we throw at them, they could always fight back... "
@@obiwankenobi3574 despite popular depiction, the PLA doctrine at the time is more focused on movement warfare, on infiltration through mountainous terrains, envelopment and surrounding the enemy from multiple directions. It’s only later in the war when the US learnt to counter PLA tactics and the war became a stalemate that PLA had to resort to front assault, even then they tried infiltration tactics as much as possible. PLA didn’t like frontal charge either, but sometimes they had to do it, e.g. against surrounded US units who are well supplied by US Airforce.
@@CrasusC Bullshit Look at the Chosin Campaign. Eleven Chinese 'Iron' Divisions, versus one reinforced US Marine Division. The Chinese lost a division a day.
Need to give you a thumbs up for providing unbiased briefing about the PLA. For the content although I can't say it is 100% accurate, it is top quality you can find on UA-cam. Must be difficult for a foreigner to collect and translate those materials. One pity thing is that it didn't mention the PCL-181/171/161 howitzer. It is a new star in the army.
For the reconnaissance battalion, that radar vehicle is based on the ZSD-89A platform, not ZBD-04A. They look similar to each other, but they are different.
I agree, but the hulls are completely different. The ZBD-04 being based on the Type 97, itself heavily influenced by the BMP-3. The Type 89 is more a lengthened Type 63.
@@gizhou3034 I dont understand, ZBD-97 has not so much difference with ZBD-04.(wz502),But i know that ZBD-04A(WZ502G) has additional protection ,more informatization,and removed the propeller.The turrent of both 04/04A is almost same as BMP3,because russian sold one of their production line of BMP3’s turrent.
The news is that they're now replacing every remaining type 59 unit with type 96 In fact there' even rumour that they will actually adapt the type 96B into the army
In most case , The type 59D 's mission is fill up the shortage number of type 09 8X8 gun carrier in Chinese verision SBCT. But for some troops in Xinjiang(Last four divisions in PLAGF),they are really using Type59-1 and type 63 APC,they are as old as guys in museum, these four divisions are still waiting for the new equipment
@@proletommy7426 well, i mean xinjiang faces a friendly russia, pakistan, a weak mongolia and the stans, with only a tiny portion potentially facing india and that area is getting type-15 .
According to an April 2021 gov article: As of now, there are in total 82 combined brigades: 29 heavy, 25 medium , 17 light, 1 medium/light, 4 mountain, 6 amphibious. Of 29 heavy brigades, 12 are considered “digital combined heavy”. In addition, there are 4 divisions with conventional layout at Xinjiang.
@Rob Wilton Rearming to the teeth? Our military is not very big. Its comparable to France and UK. Example: Turkey has a pretty much bigger military while opposing against the NATO, western values and having a dictator (Erdogan). Germany is a Part of the NATO alliance since the 50's and all NATO Members are forced to Spend 2% of the GDP Into military and Take Part in NATO operations. Germany only spent 1,2%. Neo Nazis are Not a bigger Problem Here than in US or any other countries. We germans know our past and there is no Chance that the AFD or NPD get a majority in the federal election. No Party want sth to do with them. And Japan must protect themself because China become a new dangerous Power in the Region und due Donald Trumps anti NATO / Aliied Rethoric Nobody was Sure that the US would stand this his allies. Its pretty much ignorant to Take Out old Prejudicies while the US, Russia and China terrorizing the world since the Cold war.
@@Jan_Hannibal You said yourself that Germany only spent 1.2% on defense last year, while continuing to flood U.S market with German made cars. You want U.S support in NATO, then please hold up your end of the bargain.
@@DirtyBird28 What does the Export of Cars have to do with a state Budget? Seemingly some americans Like German Cars...so what? That the law of free market In my opinion we should leave NATO and Form a european defense union, because who want to support some illegal Interventions world wide ? But the EU is often a clumsy and incompetent bureaucracy, so they wont realize that.
@@Jan_Hannibal It matters because Germany continues to reap the benefits of access to the American market while still not paying it's fair share of NATO. I could care less what cars people choose to drive. If fact don't buy American, most of our cars are crap right now. But you needn't worry, as you Europeans seen in full display at G7. Our president is an old fumbling buffoon incapable of striking the best deal for U.S. In fact you might be better off coming to terms with the Russians. Putin is currently running circles around us.
@@Jan_Hannibal President Trump worked directly with Japan, and was never anti-NATO. He was anti other-nations-not-paying-their-share-while-the-US-foots-the-bill
I would wager that the PLA at all levels have a very healthy level of respect for the strengths of US forces along with their vast experience in combat operations. Its worth baring in mind, prior to US involvement in Europe and the Pacific in World War II, North American forces were also lacking combat experience and came up against battle-hardened adversaries. Lack of respect for one's enemies can compromise the not only the outcome of a battle but an operation and even the war.
The difference was that the Americans had the British to teach them the ropes, but China has to rely on Russia for their combat experience. The same Russia that is currently struggling to defeat Ukraine.
@@ObliviousPenguin How is Russia losing in Ukraine when they've laid waste to the best NATO can muster at the moment? They've only called up 20% of their forces. People like you cheerleading on the sidelines won't help on the battlefield. The Ukrainian government said they are losing up to 1k soldiers a day. Unsustainable rates for Ukraine, wake up please!
damn, I saw a dude in the comment section called the ERA "sheet metal" and claim a .337 mag could penetrate the turret, man, that's a new level of stupidity, a layman should never comment on something that he/she doesn't know anything about, period
Most people seem to think China can only manufacture cheap crap that falls apart after a week. They do make a lot of cheap crap, but that's because companies want their products made for the bare minimum possible. Doesn't mean they can't make high quality stuff, and I'm sure a lot of their equipment is better than 99% of other countries.
Correction: Pretty much every vehicle that you said was based on the ZBD-04A hull shown from 2:18 onwards (except the AFT-10 ATGM carrier) is actually based on the modernised ZSD-89 hull. This is a common mistake that many people make. Also, you used some footage of the VT-5 which is not same as the ZTQ-15. Anyways, keep up the good work.
The ZBD-04 hull, is based on the Type 97 hull, which was heavily influenced by the BMP-3. This is not good work as no sources are cited. And it is the Type 04 hull used with Hong jia-10. Unless, 'Tanke Zhuangjia Cheliang', is wrong.
@@gizhou3034 The turret of the original ZBD-04 is certainly from the BMP-3 but the hull is entirely different. It has a non-retarded layout with the engine in the front as opposed to the BMP-3 which has its engine in the back.
While China and Taiwan have been bitter enemies for a while, interestingly their contemporary armies are organized in very similar fashion. At top sits the Corps level HQ, PLAGF calls it group army (集团军), ROC Army uses the term army (军团). Neither armies maintain division, their tactical maneuver units are combined arms brigades. PLA has four types of combat brigades: heavy, medium, light, and amphibious while ROC Army has two: armored, mechanized infantry. Additionally both armies also retain second line combat units. Infantry Brigades in ROC Army. Border defense and coast defense brigades in PLAGF. Within each combat brigade, the basic maneuver battalions share similar name and concept: combined battalion (合成营) in PLA terminology while in Taiwan military it is known as combined arms battalion (联兵营). Again you can see the influences from US Army. PLA group army also commands a fixed types of support brigades: aviation, artillery, air defense, special op, logistics, and engineer/chemical defense. For ROC Army each of her armies has a brigade sized artillery command including air defense battalion plus two regimental sized units called group (群), one for combat engineer and another one is NBC defense. However unlike PLA group army, Taiwanese field army doesn’t have special op nor aviation assets, those are pooled together under a separate Army Aviation and Special Op Command.
Not surprising considering half of the PLA units consist of ancestry from ROC defector divisions and most communist officers and their original divisions were raised by people who graduated from the same Whampoon military academy as the ROC Army.
Excellently put together video, it's hard to find precise information on this on one's own so the effort is greatly appreciated. Keep it up. A similar breakdown of Chinese air brigades would be welcome.
Really appreciate your hard work and in depth research! Would you do a video about Chinese Naval equipments and 3 fleets? Chinese naval power is growing so fast and it hard to get a overlook of the entire picture.
@@prind142 by typing gibberish with your made in China keyboard? Destroy your keyboard first. Your hostility is the reason why China made those weapons. The barbaric nature of colonists never changed.
@Battle Order A video on Chinese PLA GF's light combined arms/mechanised brigade based on 8x8 and 6x6 wheeled vehicles will be much appreciated, specially describing the deployment of the ZTL 11 assault gun vehicles in their formations.
Yup, this is a very well-made and well-researched video. From this, we get the gist of how structured and modern the PLA is. Whoever thought that China is nothing but a paper tiger is due for a rude awakening.
I agree. Chinese policy is to get the enemy deeper in country. After this who knows what they have in store for the adversary. Pray that Diplomacy will prevail so we don't have to find out.
I actually like the term paper tiger for the PLA. If they were in a position of power then they wouldn't be uttering so many threats against countries. For example threatening Japan with a nuclear attack. Threatening 300,000 Canadians in Hong Kong (to be fair it was a Chinese ambassador that made this threat), flying warplanes through Taiwan airspace and escalating tensions with India as examples. If they were strong they wouldn't resort to biological warfare or attempting to infiltrate countries. Dont get me wrong, their military is up there as one of the strongest in the world. But they are also setting themselves up to be the Axis if a global conflict were to take place. They are alienating themselves. Especially when they ally with terrorists like the Taliban.
@@Amoore-vv9wx The actual definition of a Paper Tiger is "something or someone that claims or appears to be powerful or threatening, but is actually ineffectual and unable to withstand challenge." Seems to sum up the CCP perfectly. I dont see Japan, Taiwan, South Korea or Vietnam uttering threats.
@B J That's just blatantly false. It was a chinese ambassador that threatened 300,000 Canadians in Honk Kong. It is a fact that China is actively threatening Taiwan and increasing aggressive flights with military planes through Taiwan airspace. Xi Jinping has been telling the military and citizens to prepare for war while also pushing anti west propaganda. They openly allied with the Taliban. This is all verifiable fact.
Amazing work! It would be nice if you could cover the Chinese Combined Air Assault Brigades next and compare them to the American counterparts. Looking forward to it!
I would love to see a video about the Israeli army or maybe their military production system. They seem like such a unique kinda army and a very stand alone army surrounded by enemies.
ZBD-86 is more like a mix copy of BMP-1 and BMP-2. It depends on a variant, but from memory most that are in use have 30 mm autocannon or something similar. No 73 mm low pressure cannon. I'm not saying China didn't have them, but they used that platform so much that there are IIRC more than dozen combat versions (to say nothing of specialty versions like ambulances etc.).
Love your vids! It would be cool to see videos on more macro levels of military organization, like the CARS-USARS transition, or the fate of the ACR's (Armored Cavalry Regiments).
The United States uses a BCT system, while a lot of NATO countries like Canada and the U.K use a "battlegroup" system. Its very similar but its usually centered around crating a scalable combat group based on a mechanized or light infantry unit, and then attaching armoured, fires and combat service support as needed. Canada for example organizes their ground forces around a "Mechanized Brigade Group", it incorporates elements of all three BCT from the U.S but is rounded out to face a wide array of threats. Can't say much for Germany or France but I'd imagine they are very similar to the Mechanized Brigade Group.
@@paydenladeroute7129 French army order of battle consists of 6 combined arms brigades: 2 light, 2 medium, and 2 heavy, plus French contribution to the Franco-German Brigade. French combat brigades are larger than their US Army counterpart. For example its armored brigade had over 8000 authorized personnel organized into one tank regiment, one combined arms regiment (both tank and IFV) acting as recon formation, three armored infantry regiments (IFV), one artillery regiment, one engineer regiment, and brigade HHC. But without organic support units. The French Army regiment is slightly larger than US Army battalion.
The verhicles used by units are depent on frontier lvl. Example units facing Taiwan and elite units have they better equipment and verhicles and tanks. Second and reserve units have semi modern equipment mounted on older verhicles/tanks.
With the recent heat up between relations of the US and PRC a video like this is helpful to know what we're up against if war is unavoidable by the way I'm not biased against China I'm just saying if anyone has the means of challenging the us it's China so it's best to not be ignorant
@@rhythmray7429 The Chinese three letter designations are not used operationally. They were factory designations to identify a vehicle and are for bean counters.
From my understanding, no armoured brigade currently have ztz59. ztz99a is not so widely used, and it is usually called ztz99 phase 1/2/3 and ztz99 Kai.
Don’t underestimate PLA logistics. This is not your granddaddy’s PLA. China has the largest manufacturing base as well as the most extensive supply chain in the world right now.
@@aps125 yeah no disrepct to the PLA, I didn't mean to come off with a tone. I like logistics, and I'm curious to see how the largest army in the world would get it done if they ever fully mobilized. I'm not doubting China or the PLA, it would be an incredible military achievement for any country
@@jdstark24 IF they can build 10,000km of hsr every 12 months and simultaneously be building 300 dams, 50 nuclear reactors, and over 40 metro systems, they can supply a few thousand pieces of military hardware with ease for as long as they need them operational.
Battle Order : Thumbs up 2 your mechanized combat infantry unit videos. Have u a video on U S. Mechanized Combat Infantry units in Vietnam? You guys are the best !
@@damolux3388 Obviously not 6, PLA has 13 group armies, about 80 brigades, of which 30-40 are heavy armored brigades, but not all heavy armored brigades have the latest equipment
At least on paper. During Operation: Desert Storm, Iraq was defeated by a force less than a quarter of its size. The main purpose of the Chinese military is to keep its civilian population in line. After all, the military swears allegiance to the Communist Party and not China. To top it off, China thinks it has to defend itself from both India which has the manpower and the U.S. which has the firepower. This means that China's military is already fractured in three main parts before it can do anything.
@@orlock20 Who said anything about size? Iraq failed because it was under equipped and unprepared. China is both equipped and prepared, with equipment that can at the very least compete with its NATO equivalent, if not beat it outright. I mean, Iraq was using export versions of decades old Soviet tanks as the bulk of its armor. It didn't even have the productive capacity to build new equipment. The comparison to China is ludicrous.
Lol @ comparing iraq to modern china in terms of military. China has millions of PAP people's armed police and border guards for domestic security, they don't need military infantry. It was usa who called in military to control it's recent protests.. not china. See HK protests, not one death or military used. China is united, 95% of chinese support ccp, and chinese don't have guns. They don't need military to control.
@@zheyuxiang5596 indeed, they have similar requirements and may even share similar pool of parts, but they very different tanks from a development perspective. It's essentially the reverse of Type-90-ii/Al Khalid and type-99 relationship.
@@gizhou3034 they're technically different tanks(that's apart from the fact, that there are two known configurations of ZTQ-15, and two versions of VT-5 as well: "early" and "production"). Different configuration, different specs, different weight, even different designation&role.
china is the country with the worlds most advanced telecommunication technology (while us is still struggling with 5g, china is already developing 6g)... so don't you worry, these DJI are still better than the 40k toy drones that are used by the US army
@@infinitous_8610 Why on earth would China do that? Not in the forseeable future I would say. China has NEVER been known to occupy overseas territories.
Very nice, unbiased accounting of China's heavy divisions. The Chinese military is in a current state of modernization and change as it transitions from less of a Soviet Doctrine force into a force that is more capable of fighting the type of rapid maneuver warfare that we have seen in the 21st century. The issue for the US military is that China's modernization and restructuring runs almost directly counter to what the US military has done. During the War On Terrorism, the US military became lighter and smaller. The goal was to be able to deploy small, light forces that could respond rapidly all over the world. Trying to stop opposing heavy divisions would require a massive reliance on air support. The danger with relying on air support is that it is not always guaranteed, especially in combat against another major world power. The other problem is that every potential US opponent recognizes US air superiority. Therefore, the logical assumption is that these nations have all spent decades finding ways to nullify or limit the USA's advantage in the air. Ultimately, the US (civilians and military) need to view China and Russia as the high level threats that they are. The dangers of denigrating your potential enemies are manifold.
It's insanely rare to find coverage of Chinese arms and doctrines without an unbearable amount of manipulative narration or tone policing.
*Refreshing*
@Indian Streetshietters lol
Indeed, many seem to treat the Chinese as some kind of alien force when they are really a nation of humans.
@@MrMarinus18 relatable
@@MrMarinus18 I mean, they are actively commiting genocide and kidnapping their citizens for organ harvesting.
And no people from India hating😂😂
It's refreshing to see a video really about PLA structure & equipment, without hearing a india accent talking about any political BS but the real deal.
Lmao
Not gonna lie but this made me laugh
yep
yeah, if the Indians had some real shit they wouldn't be nagging on the Internet instead of taking Tibet for themselves.
hahahahahaha, I can't agree anymore
This is some prime PLA footage, great finds.
And, damn, does the ZBD-4A just look good. Outstanding.
I called the ZBD-04s as Sino BMP-3 despite it's only due to its turret
overview of the PLA in english is such fresh content
Agreed! Really glad to find some
Uh, The PLA Civil Affairs Division.
you forgot one thing
"MADE IN CHINA"
HAHAHAH
@@PlumSack79 If you're so sure the PLA is paper tiger, why comment multiple times throughout this video trying to convince everyone? Sounds to me you aren't actually sure and are trying to convince yourself.
Glad to see PLA and ccp, a paper tiger, is on your mind everyday.
It's like chinese talking about india or africa or something. They don't do it because they actually are paper tigers
I love how much research you put into these! Keep up the great work!
Thanks a ton!
@@BattleOrder A simple question. How did you manage to acquire such classified information used in the video, that the Chinese government does not disclose?
Nice work, Keep it up 👍
@@backleft4917 There are plenty of channels in China that are Govt approved and focus on Military stuff, Blogs and such also appear and no you dont get Arrested but it will magically Disappear 😏
@@BattleOrder 真的很不错,但是有些消息还是有些陈旧,比如说重火力覆盖营这个东西,其实2014年就已经全配备了
Please keep doing PLA content, so hard to find it elsewhere. P.s. I don’t know if you’ve considered covering non-ground forces but content on the PLAN/PLAAF/PLARF would also be cool
Its actually not so hard to find info about PLA. You just have to know where to look. The sad news is, most of the sites are blocked by western media and Google.
It's easy to find some info if you know some chinese on chinese website.
@@saviorlee8176 I’m 2 weeks into my introductory Chinese course so I’ll be relying on English content for a while still
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Most impressed by the quantity of drones and ground surveillance radars available on the company level.
Well, the biggest drone company DJI is Chinese.
The high-quality videos on PLA units after the 2017 reform has been must-watches, keep it up
Oh man this is some good stuff. It's so refreshing to finally watch some juicy content without a strong political context. Keep it real bro!
true i hate too political
war thunder player hate politic
Type 99s are pretty fucking good looking
Agree, that squarish turret kind of reminds me of Tigers
@@arbeiterz8491 Westsern turret design.
yeah
Check Type-15 light tank, even better looking, the Chinese killed it!
@@lucisleesion8824 Yeah
we got the export version vt-5
An excellent look at one of the most relevant militaries in the world. The PLA heavy brigades are truly formidable forces, even if they were to operate under strength. Liked and subscribed, thanks for the great content.
Is it okay to think Chinese Aviation brigades are next?? No one covered that. Chinese Land Forces Aviation units are the only ones that will match US Army Aviation operation modality and size some day.
They are copying American organic structure.
Modern Chinese Warplanes (a book series) should cover that?
@@Old-Dog00 yea but it would be good to see american structure utilizing Mi-17 Type helo's. There gotta be significant difference. Chinese tend to put attack capability in all the helicopter's. US too have that, but not in a Chinese extent.
@@yuyuyu25 56$ 😂😂
@@BengalLancer Helos are not as important as you make them out bro. The only time they are is during a deep air assault mission and you have hundreds of them transporting troops and material.
Great job, solid and unbiased content, keep going mate
You have done your research well without the political bs
You know that the Korean war made both Americans and Chinese shocked by each other.
So they started to learn from each other, and eventually become more and more alike....
@@backleft4917 In the Korean war,
Chinese guys are shocked because "These asswhole's bombs seems be free of charge and countless ......"
U.S. guys are shocked because "These bastards are just can't be knock down, no matter how many tons of bombs we throw at them, they could always fight back... "
@@rolandyin1595 more like: “how many men will they throw at our entrenched positions?”
@@obiwankenobi3574 despite popular depiction, the PLA doctrine at the time is more focused on movement warfare, on infiltration through mountainous terrains, envelopment and surrounding the enemy from multiple directions. It’s only later in the war when the US learnt to counter PLA tactics and the war became a stalemate that PLA had to resort to front assault, even then they tried infiltration tactics as much as possible. PLA didn’t like frontal charge either, but sometimes they had to do it, e.g. against surrounded US units who are well supplied by US Airforce.
@@CrasusC Bullshit Look at the Chosin Campaign. Eleven Chinese 'Iron' Divisions, versus one reinforced US Marine Division. The Chinese lost a division a day.
Need to give you a thumbs up for providing unbiased briefing about the PLA. For the content although I can't say it is 100% accurate, it is top quality you can find on UA-cam. Must be difficult for a foreigner to collect and translate those materials.
One pity thing is that it didn't mention the PCL-181/171/161 howitzer. It is a new star in the army.
那是中型旅装备
对,那些装备不是重型旅的,提醒你不要给外国人送情报,召中最适合他们
@@yeanxeno8793 没送 我就想看看他们怎么看 181服役又不是什么新闻了 我知道微博的事
I guess those are not suitable for the Heavy Combined Arms Brigades.
We need this stuff in wargame red dragon
@@backleft4917 we need a moder units... We only have 1995 units
Where is the javelin?... Where is the f22
@@Just-Sven wait for Broken Arrow game
@B J well you have a good sead plane and the HJ-9 that kill tanks very easy
We need these stuff in WarThunder !
For the reconnaissance battalion, that radar vehicle is based on the ZSD-89A platform, not ZBD-04A. They look similar to each other, but they are different.
I agree, but the hulls are completely different. The ZBD-04 being based on the Type 97, itself heavily influenced by the BMP-3. The Type 89 is more a lengthened Type 63.
@@gizhou3034Yep, The hull of 04/97 no association with BMP3 but the turrent is directly buy the production line of BMP3 turrent.
@@proletommy7426 You can't even get the designation right.
@@gizhou3034 I dont understand, ZBD-97 has not so much difference with ZBD-04.(wz502),But i know that ZBD-04A(WZ502G) has additional protection ,more informatization,and removed the propeller.The turrent of both 04/04A is almost same as BMP3,because russian sold one of their production line of BMP3’s turrent.
@B J Nope type 86 is BMP-1 copy, 63 is APC like M113
The news is that they're now replacing every remaining type 59 unit with type 96
In fact there' even rumour that they will actually adapt the type 96B into the army
In most case , The type 59D 's mission is fill up the shortage number of type 09 8X8 gun carrier in Chinese verision SBCT. But for some troops in Xinjiang(Last four divisions in PLAGF),they are really using Type59-1 and type 63 APC,they are as old as guys in museum, these four divisions are still waiting for the new equipment
@@proletommy7426 well, i mean xinjiang faces a friendly russia, pakistan, a weak mongolia and the stans, with only a tiny portion potentially facing india and that area is getting type-15 .
Great content with accurate translations. Keep it up!
Amazing video as always ! By the way, do you think you'll cover modern European armies organization anytime soon ?
Keep up the good work !
Any specific?
I for one would like to see the Romanian or the Turkish.
According to an April 2021 gov article:
As of now, there are in total 82 combined brigades: 29 heavy, 25 medium , 17 light, 1 medium/light, 4 mountain, 6 amphibious. Of 29 heavy brigades, 12 are considered “digital combined heavy”.
In addition, there are 4 divisions with conventional layout at Xinjiang.
Idea for next breakdown about organiziation: Modern Bundeswehr Mech inf Platoon, since germany has a different approach to combined arms.
@Rob Wilton Rearming to the teeth? Our military is not very big. Its comparable to France and UK. Example: Turkey has a pretty much bigger military while opposing against the NATO, western values and having a dictator (Erdogan).
Germany is a Part of the NATO alliance since the 50's and all NATO Members are forced to Spend 2% of the GDP Into military and Take Part in NATO operations. Germany only spent 1,2%. Neo Nazis are Not a bigger Problem Here than in US or any other countries. We germans know our past and there is no Chance that the AFD or NPD get a majority in the federal election. No Party want sth to do with them.
And Japan must protect themself because China become a new dangerous Power in the Region und due Donald Trumps anti NATO / Aliied Rethoric Nobody was Sure that the US would stand this his allies.
Its pretty much ignorant to Take Out old Prejudicies while the US, Russia and China terrorizing the world since the Cold war.
@@Jan_Hannibal You said yourself that Germany only spent 1.2% on defense last year, while continuing to flood U.S market with German made cars.
You want U.S support in NATO, then please hold up your end of the bargain.
@@DirtyBird28 What does the Export of Cars have to do with a state Budget? Seemingly some americans Like German Cars...so what? That the law of free market
In my opinion we should leave NATO and Form a european defense union, because who want to support some illegal Interventions world wide ? But the EU is often a clumsy and incompetent bureaucracy, so they wont realize that.
@@Jan_Hannibal It matters because Germany continues to reap the benefits of access to the American market while still not paying it's fair share of NATO.
I could care less what cars people choose to drive. If fact don't buy American, most of our cars are crap right now. But you needn't worry, as you Europeans seen in full display at G7. Our president is an old fumbling buffoon incapable of striking the best deal for U.S. In fact you might be better off coming to terms with the Russians. Putin is currently running circles around us.
@@Jan_Hannibal President Trump worked directly with Japan, and was never anti-NATO. He was anti other-nations-not-paying-their-share-while-the-US-foots-the-bill
I would wager that the PLA at all levels have a very healthy level of respect for the strengths of US forces along with their vast experience in combat operations. Its worth baring in mind, prior to US involvement in Europe and the Pacific in World War II, North American forces were also lacking combat experience and came up against battle-hardened adversaries. Lack of respect for one's enemies can compromise the not only the outcome of a battle but an operation and even the war.
The difference was that the Americans had the British to teach them the ropes, but China has to rely on Russia for their combat experience. The same Russia that is currently struggling to defeat Ukraine.
Well they pretty much adopt US BCT structure, so I say yes, they definitely have healthy level of respect of US Army.
@@ObliviousPenguin How is Russia losing in Ukraine when they've laid waste to the best NATO can muster at the moment? They've only called up 20% of their forces. People like you cheerleading on the sidelines won't help on the battlefield. The Ukrainian government said they are losing up to 1k soldiers a day. Unsustainable rates for Ukraine, wake up please!
@@davidmoss2576 Let the fools sleep. The more cheerleading they do now the harder disappontment will hit them.
Yes, the PLA has always regarded the US military as a potentially powerful enemy
damn, I saw a dude in the comment section called the ERA "sheet metal" and claim a .337 mag could penetrate the turret, man, that's a new level of stupidity, a layman should never comment on something that he/she doesn't know anything about, period
Lol yea
Most people seem to think China can only manufacture cheap crap that falls apart after a week.
They do make a lot of cheap crap, but that's because companies want their products made for the bare minimum possible.
Doesn't mean they can't make high quality stuff, and I'm sure a lot of their equipment is better than 99% of other countries.
脑子有病
果然最反华的是香港人,
Do one on the Nato quick reaction forces,
or the mixed Brigades Germany has with other countries
well doing reaction time is tricky and un accurate
Again good job 👍. Chinese is my mother tongue. This video captures pretty much all I can find in public domain/open source regarding the topics.
Try reading copies of Tanke Zhuangjia Cheliang, Qingbi Qi, and Bingqi Zhishi.
Correction:
Pretty much every vehicle that you said was based on the ZBD-04A hull shown from 2:18 onwards (except the AFT-10 ATGM carrier) is actually based on the modernised ZSD-89 hull. This is a common mistake that many people make. Also, you used some footage of the VT-5 which is not same as the ZTQ-15. Anyways, keep up the good work.
The ZBD-04 hull, is based on the Type 97 hull, which was heavily influenced by the BMP-3. This is not good work as no sources are cited. And it is the Type 04 hull used with Hong jia-10. Unless, 'Tanke Zhuangjia Cheliang', is wrong.
@@gizhou3034 The turret of the original ZBD-04 is certainly from the BMP-3 but the hull is entirely different. It has a non-retarded layout with the engine in the front as opposed to the BMP-3 which has its engine in the back.
I hope in the near future we see the equivalent of this video for the Medium and Light Brigades.
While China and Taiwan have been bitter enemies for a while, interestingly their contemporary armies are organized in very similar fashion.
At top sits the Corps level HQ, PLAGF calls it group army (集团军), ROC Army uses the term army (军团). Neither armies maintain division, their tactical maneuver units are combined arms brigades. PLA has four types of combat brigades: heavy, medium, light, and amphibious while ROC Army has two: armored, mechanized infantry. Additionally both armies also retain second line combat units. Infantry Brigades in ROC Army. Border defense and coast defense brigades in PLAGF.
Within each combat brigade, the basic maneuver battalions share similar name and concept: combined battalion (合成营) in PLA terminology while in Taiwan military it is known as combined arms battalion (联兵营). Again you can see the influences from US Army.
PLA group army also commands a fixed types of support brigades: aviation, artillery, air defense, special op, logistics, and engineer/chemical defense. For ROC Army each of her armies has a brigade sized artillery command including air defense battalion plus two regimental sized units called group (群), one for combat engineer and another one is NBC defense. However unlike PLA group army, Taiwanese field army doesn’t have special op nor aviation assets, those are pooled together under a separate Army Aviation and Special Op Command.
Not surprising considering half of the PLA units consist of ancestry from ROC defector divisions and most communist officers and their original divisions were raised by people who graduated from the same Whampoon military academy as the ROC Army.
PLA uses combined arm battalions
Excellently put together video, it's hard to find precise information on this on one's own so the effort is greatly appreciated. Keep it up. A similar breakdown of Chinese air brigades would be welcome.
Real deal and no politic. Pure facts. Love it! keep up the great work, subscribed! :)
Really nice content, deserve more views.
You didn't mention how the ATF-10's actually feature NLOS missiles which make them VERY unique. They also have drone scouts.
there based of the israeli pereh
Really appreciate your hard work and in depth research! Would you do a video about Chinese Naval equipments and 3 fleets? Chinese naval power is growing so fast and it hard to get a overlook of the entire picture.
Best to destroy it before then.
@@prind142 by typing gibberish with your made in China keyboard? Destroy your keyboard first. Your hostility is the reason why China made those weapons. The barbaric nature of colonists never changed.
@@prind142 Yes, let's try it.
This content grandly helps my Arma 3 content. Thank you so much!
Now I'm interested to see what you've got in store.
This was really interesting, and I was amused by the recognition that everyone's just waiting for the tanks.
They don’t have any cool names for their tanks just zzvxjxhwowkdwwzzz
@Battle Order A video on Chinese PLA GF's light combined arms/mechanised brigade based on 8x8 and 6x6 wheeled vehicles will be much appreciated, specially describing the deployment of the ZTL 11 assault gun vehicles in their formations.
Quality meets quantity! Well done!!
Objective and accurate descriptions.
Interesting and nicely done.
best military video out there! please make a similar video on infantry brigade too
I wonder if we’ll ever get a video on anything from the Hermit Kingdom
Yup, this is a very well-made and well-researched video. From this, we get the gist of how structured and modern the PLA is. Whoever thought that China is nothing but a paper tiger is due for a rude awakening.
I agree. Chinese policy is to get the enemy deeper in country. After this who knows what they have in store for the adversary. Pray that Diplomacy will prevail so we don't have to find out.
I actually like the term paper tiger for the PLA. If they were in a position of power then they wouldn't be uttering so many threats against countries. For example threatening Japan with a nuclear attack. Threatening 300,000 Canadians in Hong Kong (to be fair it was a Chinese ambassador that made this threat), flying warplanes through Taiwan airspace and escalating tensions with India as examples. If they were strong they wouldn't resort to biological warfare or attempting to infiltrate countries.
Dont get me wrong, their military is up there as one of the strongest in the world. But they are also setting themselves up to be the Axis if a global conflict were to take place. They are alienating themselves. Especially when they ally with terrorists like the Taliban.
@@Amoore-vv9wx didnt they lose to the Vietnamese?
@@Amoore-vv9wx The actual definition of a Paper Tiger is "something or someone that claims or appears to be powerful or threatening, but is actually ineffectual and unable to withstand challenge." Seems to sum up the CCP perfectly. I dont see Japan, Taiwan, South Korea or Vietnam uttering threats.
@B J That's just blatantly false. It was a chinese ambassador that threatened 300,000 Canadians in Honk Kong. It is a fact that China is actively threatening Taiwan and increasing aggressive flights with military planes through Taiwan airspace. Xi Jinping has been telling the military and citizens to prepare for war while also pushing anti west propaganda. They openly allied with the Taliban. This is all verifiable fact.
Great content brother subscribed.
Much appreciated!
Great breakdown. Keep up the awesome work.
Very insightful & interesting, thank you!
Amazing work! It would be nice if you could cover the Chinese Combined Air Assault Brigades next and compare them to the American counterparts. Looking forward to it!
The PLA armed with these equipment. A battalion of men. Beat a brigade of Russian troops in 40 minutes. Is it exaggerated enough?
I would love to see a video about the Israeli army or maybe their military production system.
They seem like such a unique kinda army and a very stand alone army surrounded by enemies.
ZBD-86 is more like a mix copy of BMP-1 and BMP-2. It depends on a variant, but from memory most that are in use have 30 mm autocannon or something similar. No 73 mm low pressure cannon. I'm not saying China didn't have them, but they used that platform so much that there are IIRC more than dozen combat versions (to say nothing of specialty versions like ambulances etc.).
I'm from China.,I can't say it's completely accurate, there are a few mistakes, but this is a good video,Very comprehensive, PLA needs experience
Hey man, would be great if you could point out some of the mistakes! It's tough for foreigners to get much insights!
@@LeCiel93 你这小心思掩藏的可真不怎么样。华裔我劝你别作恶。
@@xhchen3233 我来自大陆北方 朋友你能说的更明白一点吗🤣
Agreed on the video, but let's hope things stay peaceful. War is terrible.
别谢蜜
Awesome vid, thanks for the info!
有个错误,合成营的炮兵连有9门120毫米自行迫榴炮,外加1辆指挥车和3辆弹药车。战时一个合成营可以得到合成旅的一个连6门122毫米自行榴弹炮的支援。其他部分全都正确。另外希望讲讲PLA的中型旅、轻型旅和快速反应部队:)
155mm self-propelled guns are used in units operating the Type 99 and Type 96 main battle tanks.
这里头错误多了,不过很少有老外做这种视频。
@@georgedroid39 More mistakes than the Great Leap Forward.
@@gizhou3034 yes comrade
@@georgedroid39 'Junshi' please. I spent the odd decade in the military, as well as holding a PhD. :)
Whoa I never even seen such a good summary in Chinese media and magazine! This is good shit.
An extremely rare example of objective report of China by western journalist
Like your US Navy carrier wing video, I learned more than I anticipated. You always do fine work.
Love your vids! It would be cool to see videos on more macro levels of military organization, like the CARS-USARS transition, or the fate of the ACR's (Armored Cavalry Regiments).
Interesting! Great job dude
can't wait for you to do more countries, hopefully my country Singapore will be done soon
Singapore soldiers are lije boy scouts, too short and some too fat.
@@oberstleutnant787 oh 👋, I always see you demeaning SG soldiers in SG military related stuff. Have a good day
@@limxuanyi5398 truth hurts.
@@oberstleutnant787 Good for you 👍👍👍
@@oberstleutnant787 And what are you? Why so triggered? Inferiority complex perhaps?
Love this docs make more about other countries please❤️
Very detail and data oriented content
Are nearly all NATO commands structured like the BCT’s?
The United States uses a BCT system, while a lot of NATO countries like Canada and the U.K use a "battlegroup" system. Its very similar but its usually centered around crating a scalable combat group based on a mechanized or light infantry unit, and then attaching armoured, fires and combat service support as needed. Canada for example organizes their ground forces around a "Mechanized Brigade Group", it incorporates elements of all three BCT from the U.S but is rounded out to face a wide array of threats. Can't say much for Germany or France but I'd imagine they are very similar to the Mechanized Brigade Group.
Uh, Major League NO.
@@paydenladeroute7129 French army order of battle consists of 6 combined arms brigades: 2 light, 2 medium, and 2 heavy, plus French contribution to the Franco-German Brigade. French combat brigades are larger than their US Army counterpart. For example its armored brigade had over 8000 authorized personnel organized into one tank regiment, one combined arms regiment (both tank and IFV) acting as recon formation, three armored infantry regiments (IFV), one artillery regiment, one engineer regiment, and brigade HHC. But without organic support units. The French Army regiment is slightly larger than US Army battalion.
Great info
keep up the great work!I like your video!(im chinese)
Who needs S2 when we got Battle Order as our Intel Section
PLA: We will not attack unless we are attacked; if we are attacked, we will certainly counterattack.
PLA are cowards they attack in secret.
@@MikeJones-uc5eu Western movie is not good for brian
No one trust china bro..they will be defeated
@@communistpandaxi6770 Cold war is over bro, you need to leave bunker and face the real world, i am surprise that you can surf on the internet
@@MikeJones-uc5eu oh the americans are brave, they tell their enemies that they will attack....lol
Great video
9:21 Holy smokes the ZTZ-99A is a badass looking tank. Unfortunately a 11 minute long video you only showed a photo image of this tank once!
looks like uparmored T72, nothing a tandem rpg would not take out in a seconds lol
@@Pentazemin44 what do you think those little squares on the tank are?
@@Pentazemin44 So like every other tank on earth? Completely vulnerable to modern anti tank systems.
@@Pentazemin44 lol. the fy-4 era is designed with tandem warheads in mind. and no, the ztz99a objectively does not look like any t72
The verhicles used by units are depent on frontier lvl. Example units facing Taiwan and elite units have they better equipment and verhicles and tanks. Second and reserve units have semi modern equipment mounted on older verhicles/tanks.
With the recent heat up between relations of the US and PRC a video like this is helpful to know what we're up against if war is unavoidable by the way I'm not biased against China I'm just saying if anyone has the means of challenging the us it's China so it's best to not be ignorant
I'm Chinese. I think these are mostly prepared for US's lap dogs. Imagine US China in combat? Only nukes matter.
And that could be real, at least a few days ago RAND exercised nuke treats again China on NY times.
nice video😊
妈耶!很少见到老外讲解放军,相对能讲得详细的。Battle Order算一个!
有内鬼啊
有没有什么别的讲得好的推荐一下? 想看看他们这边讲的什么水平
我喜欢兔子的火力覆盖,越来越变得讨厌的样子。
Thank goodness for this channel
expected of the world's next superpower.
I heard this somewhere but I think it’s somewhere around 2055?
@@elliot5203 Sooner they will a SP - their economy is close to America's in scope and not locked into expensive war.
thanks for excellent content
you should DEFINETLY do vids about cold war factons units and modern present day and near future and future stuff
I’ve waited a long time for this...
It is speculation only. There is better material on the subject.
Great work on PLA man, keep it up
btw, can you use the term of type-xx next time, a lot of us more familiar with type 99 than the name of zbd99
ztz 99
@@waeknowdae599 makes my point anyway, a lot of us are not familiar with that name, more familiar with type-99 tho
@@rhythmray7429 The Chinese three letter designations are not used operationally. They were factory designations to identify a vehicle and are for bean counters.
Using type 99 would potentially confuse with the Japanese tank as they also use type 90, type 10 etc
@@richardmoskalyov8503 a video dedicated to china won't create the confusion
From my understanding, no armoured brigade currently have ztz59. ztz99a is not so widely used, and it is usually called ztz99 phase 1/2/3 and ztz99 Kai.
There is not armoured brigade in pla nowadays.
I fear ending up needing this information in the near future
Know your enemy
@@victorisordia9280 damn right
This is such a cool channel.
Thanks mate
Much love
Can you do a video on the south Korean military and how this might coincide with the Chinese and Japanese plans? This would be very interesting
Well done. Have you considered doing a piece on the modern Israeli Army?
Do one video on the JGSDF as well. Great video btw!
Have you covered the supply/logistics side of the PLA? I'm always wondering how, if at all possible, they would supply their entire army if mobilized
Don’t underestimate PLA logistics. This is not your granddaddy’s PLA. China has the largest manufacturing base as well as the most extensive supply chain in the world right now.
@@aps125 yeah no disrepct to the PLA, I didn't mean to come off with a tone. I like logistics, and I'm curious to see how the largest army in the world would get it done if they ever fully mobilized. I'm not doubting China or the PLA, it would be an incredible military achievement for any country
@@jdstark24 IF they can build 10,000km of hsr every 12 months and simultaneously be building 300 dams, 50 nuclear reactors, and over 40 metro systems, they can supply a few thousand pieces of military hardware with ease for as long as they need them operational.
He's not doubting it, he just wants to find out more details. Relax guys
Set up five first-level logistics centers, 20 second-level logistics centers, a logistics headquarters in Beijing, and a dedicated logistics force
Battle Order : Thumbs up 2 your mechanized combat infantry unit videos. Have u a video on U S. Mechanized Combat Infantry units in Vietnam? You guys are the best !
Pretty capable, how many fully equipped brigades do they have I wonder?
There are about six,
@@江城子-t2f so about two divisions, not that many really, certainly not enough to challenge the US
China has 14 group armies, each has several army brigades, go figure
@@damolux3388 Obviously not 6, PLA has 13 group armies, about 80 brigades, of which 30-40 are heavy armored brigades, but not all heavy armored brigades have the latest equipment
Here we go!
Holy hell that's a lot of firepower
At least on paper. During Operation: Desert Storm, Iraq was defeated by a force less than a quarter of its size. The main purpose of the Chinese military is to keep its civilian population in line. After all, the military swears allegiance to the Communist Party and not China. To top it off, China thinks it has to defend itself from both India which has the manpower and the U.S. which has the firepower. This means that China's military is already fractured in three main parts before it can do anything.
orlock20 Interesting mind set up
@@orlock20 Who said anything about size? Iraq failed because it was under equipped and unprepared. China is both equipped and prepared, with equipment that can at the very least compete with its NATO equivalent, if not beat it outright.
I mean, Iraq was using export versions of decades old Soviet tanks as the bulk of its armor. It didn't even have the productive capacity to build new equipment. The comparison to China is ludicrous.
Lol @ comparing iraq to modern china in terms of military.
China has millions of PAP people's armed police and border guards for domestic security, they don't need military infantry.
It was usa who called in military to control it's recent protests.. not china. See HK protests, not one death or military used.
China is united, 95% of chinese support ccp, and chinese don't have guns. They don't need military to control.
@@orlock20 Are you part of their foreigner tactic ‘fake news force’ for fooling us? So we can underestimate them?
great video as always! Do you mind if I ask the sources used for this video, thanks a lot!
😂everyone does this, but nevertheless.
ZTQ-15 and VT-5 are two very different tanks. Mixing them in video looks weird.
Terrific content, thumbs up!
The VT-5 is the export variant of the Type 15, unless my designation is incorrect. The add-on armour packages would change the turret profiles.
@@gizhou3034 15式坦克的立项时间在2008年左右,在2015年左右进入正样车阶段。VT-5则是在2014年之后根据国外军贸形势全新研制的产品。
@@zheyuxiang5596 indeed, they have similar requirements and may even share similar pool of parts, but they very different tanks from a development perspective. It's essentially the reverse of Type-90-ii/Al Khalid and type-99 relationship.
@@gizhou3034 they're technically different tanks(that's apart from the fact, that there are two known configurations of ZTQ-15, and two versions of VT-5 as well: "early" and "production").
Different configuration, different specs, different weight, even different designation&role.
@@neniAAinen Your knowledge on armour seems to be wanting. The final product rarely looks like the protoype.
2:55 yes, those are DJI Mavic consumer-grade drones with camo skins.
china is the country with the worlds most advanced telecommunication technology (while us is still struggling with 5g, china is already developing 6g)... so don't you worry, these DJI are still better than the 40k toy drones that are used by the US army
Anxiety increases
Hey I love your videos, but I have to ask can you make a video explaining the jargon you use
The CIA after seeing this video : *concern*
LOL
They really have no reason to be concerened, unless if they plan to invade China's mainland, which historically is not a good idea.
@@崔莱 or they’re afraid that China actually had the power to invade them back
Not that it’ll go well if it happens
@@infinitous_8610 Why on earth would China do that? Not in the forseeable future I would say. China has NEVER been known to occupy overseas territories.
The CIA already knows more about the Chinese armed forced than the maker of this video ever will, because it's their job.
Those mounted ATGM units at first I though it was Anti Air units since the tubes design are similiar with western AA
Very nice, unbiased accounting of China's heavy divisions. The Chinese military is in a current state of modernization and change as it transitions from less of a Soviet Doctrine force into a force that is more capable of fighting the type of rapid maneuver warfare that we have seen in the 21st century.
The issue for the US military is that China's modernization and restructuring runs almost directly counter to what the US military has done. During the War On Terrorism, the US military became lighter and smaller. The goal was to be able to deploy small, light forces that could respond rapidly all over the world. Trying to stop opposing heavy divisions would require a massive reliance on air support. The danger with relying on air support is that it is not always guaranteed, especially in combat against another major world power. The other problem is that every potential US opponent recognizes US air superiority. Therefore, the logical assumption is that these nations have all spent decades finding ways to nullify or limit the USA's advantage in the air.
Ultimately, the US (civilians and military) need to view China and Russia as the high level threats that they are. The dangers of denigrating your potential enemies are manifold.
Never underestimate the enemy
Interesting I wonder why the PLA doesn’t have a Combat Aviation Brigade?