get ignorant in these comments if you want to, just know, you will be BLOCKED. i want my channel to be a place where everyone can share their opinions safely. and i would like to apologize if i gave off the impression that i hate any of the girls. it's not their fault it's mnet's and those evil ass producers.
I agree with everything, especially with the dance Juwon and Sujung should have gotten a higher score than Saebi. I just wish the positions were not up to the highest rank cuz that is just so unfair.
ur really rude with jiyoon when it comes to jungeun. calling her a mental warfare and saying she wouldn’t win if she had to dance. that was uncalled for
FINALLY SOMEONE HAS THE SAME OPINIONS AS ME!! The money performance, I truly think Jeemin deserved it because her techniques and skills are good but Sujung and Juwon deserve more points than Saebi tbh. This the DANCE unit, but the producers just judged based on the facial expression so it's kinda unfair. Yuju was literally SO good, but literally 16 points difference???? Koko is excellent but why did the producers based on the dance more than rap??? This is literally the RAP unit. And literally, Sarang cracked her voice and she got 84, WHILE Jungeun sang SO heavenly and only got 80??? This show is SO biased, wth???
If u will exactly notice all the points were given acc to the stage presence the stage presence of yuju is not as good as kokos just seeing koko make u feel energetic and exciting it shows she is an idol but seeing yuju is like she is a rapper
@@TShrutiit was a rapper position. Yes with a performance but thats a plus. They didnt even wrote their own rap, can you guess why? Because they know Koko cant, and they want her for the rapper position. Its so obvious
@@Anahi-z4v these days the amount idols who write their own rap has been reduced their are few who write their raps and being an idol is not about creativity its all about their skills and how they execute it . Yuju is a great rapper and koko is good to but not as good as her and in dance also both are good but the only thing is yuju has a bit awkward expression acc to me but kokos vibe and expressions matches the song she has that rapper quality
It’s so obvious how they set Yuju up to be overshadowed by Koko. The RAP battle was mainly focused on DANCE because they wanted Koko to stand out. None of the Judges are rappers so they only ranked them by dance. Even though Yuju is a far better rapper, they didn’t point out her rapping at all. It’s also OUTRAGEOUS that Sujung and Juwon got the lowest scores as professional dancers. These rats are so shameless when they’re not hiding their favoritism. I seriously need Sujung, Jungeun, Juwon, and Yuju to LEAVE. They need to get out of there as quick as possible because these evil ass producers and mnet are out to ruin their lives. I’m extremely concerned about their mental health. They should take Fuko with them to because I can tell they’re trying to make us forget about her.
It’s a rap performance. What did you want them to stand still during a dance break? Also being a professional at something doesn’t mean you should automatically do better. You don’t need to be a professional rapper to rank rapping because it’s subjective. I could be a “professional rapper” and say Yuju sucks while another “professional rapper” says she’s good.
@@parasol3561 The point is that there shouldn’t be a dance break in the first place. It’s a Main Position mission. Their main position is RAP, not DANCE. That’s what the dance unit is for. A main rapper mission should require them to write their own rap and show their own colors on stage. Rap stages don’t usually come with a set choreography. They’re just supposed to attract the audience with their own unique swag and emotions. They were given no creative freedom as “main rappers.” You said that they could have different opinions on rap but the thing is they didn’t even talk about rap in their feedback at all. If they didn’t prefer Yuju’s rap over Koko, then they would have said that, but they didn’t. They only pointed out Koko’s facial expressions, pronunciation, and dance. All they said to Yuju was “you did good.” It’s clear that they were biased from the start.
the favoritism in this show is crazy.. in part 1 yuju made a mistake and got sent to ground immediately, but sarang can mess up twice and get into the top 6? 😵💫 and mind you it’s PART 2, the judges should be stricter like the trainees are so close to debuting there is no room for error 😭
Yuju baggy jeans mistake looked so unbothered and she continued to dance with confidence. Sarang looks so awkward when her voice cracks shows towards the end of the perfomance
Yesssss u r veryyyyyyyyy right imma say it again Mnet is blind and thinks we are blind too but no one actually said that bcz when Sarang voice cracks everybody is like ooh it's okay she is our baby she is nervous it's okay this and that but when Yuju did that or someone else they be like become monsters and hate them and send them to ground
This episode had me so upset. I love Sarang, but the judge’s favoritism towards her is lowkey ruining her for me. How did she get in the top 6 when she made a mistake, but Jungeun delivers a flawless preformance and gets 10th??? I was confident the judges were gonna have her back but now i’m not sure. She’s been one of the best contestants since episode 1, yet it seems like neither the fans or the judges are acknowledging her. If she doesn’t make it into the lineup i’ll go crazy. Everyone in the top 12 is so talented that I feel like so many girl’s will be robbed regardless of the outcome. Also I don’t really understand the hype around Mai. I like her determination to improve and her attitude, but I feel like she’s only liked for her visuals and stage presence. She’s not untalented, but she doesn’t really stand out talent wise and she doesn’t deserve to debut over Jungeun. Anyway this is my lineup 1. Jungeun 2. Jeemin 3. Jiyoon 4. Saebi 5. Fuko 6. Koko VOTE JUNGEUN ON MNET+ SHE MUST DEBUT‼️
The people who deserve to score higher was the rap group and the all rounder group. Why? Because they had to sing n dance or rap and dance. How do yoy expect the dance group that danced only and the vocal group that sang only to be on the same scale with them. Since you are obviously not a sarang fan please stop mentioning. You are obviously trying to bring hate to her as if she is not better that some on your line up.
THAT WAS LITERALLY WHAT I SAID 4 WALLS WAS NOT AN ALL ROUNDER SONG. IT DIDN'T REALLY HAVE MUCH DANCE BUT MORE VOCAL AND I GENUINELY DO NOT KNOW WHY THEY DIDN'T HAVE A RAP. ITS AN ALL ROUNDER 😭😭😭😭🤚
I literally cried when Jungeun scene (Her crying and saying she can't talk to anyone, Jiyoon mad at her) AND I CRIED EVEN MORE when they apologized, hold hands, laughed. ISTG I love Jungeun and Jiyoon more than my whole life (Crazy, but it might be real) Also, here are my opinions too BECAUSE I AM PISSED AND NEED TO RANT AND IT\S LONG -Also I kinda agree with the whole rap has dance AND also the highest thing, that's so stupid but it's also a motivational thing and I don't mind it, -I kinda liked the training thing, It was funny but didn't really matter that much - I'M LIKE so sad with Saebi being 7 and the trio breaking up -Also, there was a rap verse? Isn't it all-rounder? - It was so sweet of her to hug Mai and seeing Mai cry, I cried too (I cry for everyone) -I like her lip bites tho, also with Saebi's expression it's like JUST GOOD??? - Tbh idk how you thought there was favoritism to Jungeun but yeah, I think it's because Jiyoon had more emotions on her parts and acting BUT JUNGEUN LITERAL DID GOOD TOO?? They even praised her?? FOR AN 80? BISH U BETTER BE JOCKING OR I'M GONNA RUNWAY MY FAT AS THERE AND RIOT??? I get that Jungeun isn't always gonna be better BUT DUDE?? She showed EVERYTHING here (wanted her in all-rounder ngl) wouldve "accepted an 85+ BUT HELL NA 80???? -I don't think it was pretty privileges, but it's obvious they want Sujung OUT -6 WAS little, there HAS to be a producers pick - Who put Saebi in dance when stage presence, vocals, and being center was literally made for her, but okay sure mnet?/ More rant on Jungeun and Jiyoon -I JUST WANT JIYOON AND JUNGEUN TO DEBUT OKAY MNET U BETTER SHUT UR EDITING AND DEBUT THEM BOTH. Like 10th? (I think) bfr I'm gonna whack a whoopie cushion on ur face mnet. THE WAY THEIR VOICES BLENDED TOGETHER IS SOLID PROOF ON WHY THEY NEED TO DEBUT TOGETHER. Istg I'm gonna lose my mind. I'm gonna bang my head on the wall rn Thank you for reading my rant, if you did:>
Agree!! 85+ would be acceptable (but for me she deserves at least 89 or 90) BUT 80?!? I hate how they praised her before revealing the score then proceeded to give her an 80. Their whole performance was flawless, the combination of their voices were really good and Jungeun's acting really did improve it even made me cry. I'm losing hope in this show, they're not giving any attention to Jungeun's vocals and skills anymore since they're seeing that the others are improving. I'm hoping that something will change for Jungeun, I want her to debut.
A rap unit, but no lyrics were written, a damn rap unit with a dance break? None of those judges were even qualified to be judging anything that had to do with rapping, Koko should’ve been in the dancing unit.
@@ilovpuresoul8366 There's no such thing as rap performance tbh, that was a made up category for koko to look better because we ALL know if they stuck to rapping yuju would've won, so they made them dance when in reality they should've strictly made them rap just like they did with the main vocal unit.
@@ediiixy no such thing -_____- you didn't watch the whole episode or didn't understand, Mnet made 4 position unit and for main rap performance unit description was clearly the member must do perform attractively as idols with rapping skill. So it's not just rap, it's rap dance. "they should've strictly made them rap just like they did with the main vocal unit" lol why are you organizing this should be this should be that, make your own show then 😂 viewers should realize and admit that Koko's performance >>> Yuju's.
@@ilovpuresoul8366you’re blind to the way mnet is manipulating the show to debut who they want. No show ever has had a ‘rap performance’ unit. It was created for Koko to shine over Yuju because Yuju’s rap pronunciation and skills are better
i am really glad you changed your opinion about jungeun favourism because all the praise she got before was valid she was THAT GOOD honestly if i had to pick between jiyoon and jungeun i would pick jungeun she is all rounder so she will be very useful in group so i kind of have hopes that she will debut
i feel like jiyoon voice suits more of a soloist. a lot of ppl says she sounds like rose and i can hear it also. she has a very unique voice. the producers making them look like rivals throughout the episodes was dragging it honestly. im just glad they reconcile
I really think that in the dance team Juwon and Sujung would have outshined the others if they had more screen time. And for the last episode when the « I am the best » team performed Juwon caught my attention from the first seconds. She’s really changed and is more impactful since she worked on her facial expressions. _ The main vocal position performance was so beautiful and pleasant to listen. Justice for Jungeun because what the heck is this rank.
definitely. in the pep rally preshow performance, jeemin had to perform a hip hop dance i wasnt even looking at her 😭 jungeun and minsol ate her uppppp. she was the person i knew before this show and was rooting for but she was ultimately outshined there 😭
Jungeun carries EVERY performance, she’s just vocally so far ahead of the other girls and the audience refuses to admit that. I’m also not saying the other girls are bad at all, they just are progressed more in other areas, Fuko is not far behind her. Fuko, Saebi, Jeemin, Jungeun, Jiyoon, and Gyuri are my top 6 rn. All the girls have worked their tails off and they all deserve all the praise. But if Choi Jungeun doesn’t debut, you KNOW this show is rigged in every way.
The way everytime they just bite their lip to have better expressions when the producers tell them is fun because sometimes it doesn't match with the song's meaning so it's giving "a bit too much" effect.
the main dancer position is not even a main dancer battle y’all. because the key point of that performance is who could do the lip bite expression better lol. jeemin and saebi did not even use their height to their advantage. they’re awkward and stiff. as a street dancer myself the score given by the judges last night is so ridiculous that make monica and leejung lose their credibility as a dancer in my eyes. both girls clearly still held on that “i’m pretty” expression during the performance. son juwon doesn’t even appear much last night. or did she? i only see her 3 seconds giving reaction and that’s it. pretty sure both juwon and sujung will be out next episode
@_aerinaI mean the whole main point of being an idol is to stand out is it not? If it was really about who is the best dancer then we would be talking about dancing careers this is to be an idol not a dancer, a trot singer, or a rapper. The most important aspect of being an idol at the end of the day is to stand out. Especially with how competitive the industry is talent is important but if you can hold your own and stage it doesn't matter if someone is more talented than you because if you stand out more that you will always win. Why do you think girls like Wonyoung are so popular
I've said this many time They only care about facial expressions when it comes to jeemin, saebi and mai But recently they have forgotten about mai ig Jeemin and saebi just live off their face Plus jeemins gets votes not because she's talented most of them are sympathy votes It is true she was a better trainee than who debuted in illit but in here she couldn't even come near some people's skill level
If Jungeun did not debut, they literally just used her with all the drama with Jiyoon. If there's a producer's pick and either of these two is already at the line up, im certain that the other one would not get chosen. Lastly, i dont see a difference between Fuko and Jungeun yet Fuko still got a higher score. They said Fuko is always stable and do good job every performances but so is Jungeun yet Jungeun got way way lower than everybody else.
That what I've been saying since the beginning of the drama. They only use jungeun to promote and gain fanbase for jiyoon, everybody saying it evil edit, no they know what they are doing. They know people will sympathise, they use jungeun to build the main character story for jiyoon
They really screamed at Yuju last time but when Mai was doing bare minimum she was called beautiful and a good dancer lol. The difference in treatment is crazy.
Remember when they kept giving her dirty faces looked so angry. I feel so bad for she's 16 and telling her to be more "boyish". Spice there was only 2 ppl yet they only gave koko feedback
Tbh I was excited to watch the Spicy performance since Yuju is my #1 pick, but I just felt frustrated watching the performance because mnet made it very obvious through their editing they actually wanted it to be a Koko solo performance with Yuju as background dancer. Nothing against Koko though, I like her, but mnet can't make it any less obvious they want her to debut and Yuju not to debut. Yuju gets so little screentime so people might look over her, but all her fancams show exactly how good her stage presence is and why she deserves to debut
I like Koko, I think the dancing position fits her best. I don’t know why they did put her in that position. That being said it’s great see her put effort in it. Seems like they want a rapper, but they don’t want Yuju to be it (which is sad because she’s a good contestant).
when I was watching the ranking of ep 9 I can’t even express how pissed off I was. People start hating on sujung just because she just started talking bad about Mai but wasn’t she saying what we were all thinking? Mai, although she has potential, doesn’t particularly shine out amount the ilanders. In no way am I excusing sujung’s behaviour, but I kind of understand where her anger comes from. This is a survival show and they aren’t required to help one another. The entire ep9 was biased and extremely infuriating. Why did the rap unit need to dance, but the vocal unit didn’t need to?? The producers did yuju wrong. Her rap skills definitely eat koko up, but they were ranked based on dance. Saebi should not have been ranked higher than sujung and juwon. They have so much potential but the producers just choose to ignore it?? And everyone just likes Mai for no reason. She doesn’t have a particularly good area that she shines in, such as vocals or dance. All I’ve seen people praising her for is her visuals. But idols are t just visuals, they need to be able to sing and dance well. About sarang though, her voice cracked in La Vien Rose and the4 walls, but the producers say she’s improving? And she ranks higher than so many others who should’ve been in the top 6?? If this isn’t bias if I don’t know what this is. My ideal lineup would be sujung, jiyoon, jungeun, fuko, gyuri, koko and jeemin
I agree with most of what you said but, Sujung didn't really "talk bad about Mai." All she said was that she knew what the problem with Mai's vocals was and in the past she would've told her about it but since its an individual mission, she wont. I dont get how thats offensive.
@@Chaereallywon_1I completely agree with what you said, but i wanted to avoid some conflict among other people if they believed that sujung did talk bad about mai. Anyway, sujung already proved that she redeemed herself (even though she didn’t need to) since she was the first one to hug mai when mai was crying, which shows that sujung DESERVES TO DEBUT. Everyone just judges her based on one line. It’s really sad.
well thats not really jeemins fault now is it?? i love juwon too! but I feel like jeemin is able to shine more on a stage alone idk? juwons technical dancing is better, but jeemin has more appeal on a stage to the audience
@@39myki no no i totally agree with that!!! i feel like gyuri, juwon, sujung, fuko, and yuju are the contestants that would shine SO MUCH if mnet gave them a chance. all the girls are so talented and these judges are picking and choosing. :(( I love jeemin so much she is my top pick, but I wish the judges would focus on the other girls along with her, since her debut is pretty much secured. i agree with u 100%!
for the part about jiyoon saying “how does it feel to be in 8th place” I don’t think that’s something she said to jungeun 😭 im very sure it was a voiceover that mnet did, maybe even from jiyoon talking about herself from her ranking before
Dont forget to include Yuju - in the latest episode, my girl's screen time was taken up by koko and other contestants/judges screaming "OMG KOKO DAEBAK!!!" I like Koko but cmon... show atleast 1 Yuju appreciation scream like "Yuju omg your rapping tone is amazing" i lowkey raged :p
Honestly, it would be better for Jungeun, Yuju, Sujung, and Juwon aka the robbed ones so that mnet’s and the producers’ favorites could shine to not debut here. Although I do want them to win a spot, but with the disrespect their getting throughout part 2??? You CAN’T tell me that the show’s best rapper, best technical singer with the most flexible range (mind u she wasn’t even vying for a vocal position she was mostly trained in dance like her older sister), and the two best and properly trained dancers (one was even a LEADER in SFWG, like?!) are all part of the bottom ranks . The debuting group would be under Wakeone anyway not the blacklabel nor YG. So honestly don’t mind if they don’t debut because MNET/Wakeone does not deserve these talents.
it’s like, if you are going to treat participants this way, what’s the point of doing a show like this, just debut your favorites instead of doing all of this lol
my lineup is koko jeemin saebi jiyoon jungeun yuju fuko sarang mai gyuri sujung juwon it hurts me how saebi jeemin and koko is out on your top 6 but i hope you'll not be mad if they debut tho :( they all deserve to debut ! let's support whoever debuts < 33
I was definitely getting anti koko vibes from this video…. I’ll be supporting koko for sure. I won’t be mad at final line up tho because all 12 girls work hard and are talented in their own ways. We should definitely normalize not tearing another contestant down to boost up another
Tell me one reason why koko is better than jungeun juwon jiyoon??. And other trainee. I swear people are voting stupidly srsly?? And Mai being above Jungeun?? Wowww.
@@Arian673 sarang got mistake in back 2 back performances and still ranked higher. And the producers still gave her a good score. I know sarang is one of their fav. But dont make it really obvious. No hate for sarang she is one of my picks too. I just want a fair competition.
I do agree at some points but had to disagree on some but no hate, i do respect ur opinions tho. 1. Like i prefer yuzu rap tone but i also think koko is good in rapping too. In lovesick girls u said that yuzu deserved more but u forgot that in lovesick girl they were fighting for main dancer position not rapping, and even with small part I think koko really showed herself. I don’t even stan koko but watching the performance I could kinda get why judges like her. Cuz I would prefer yuzu rap but koko more in stage. But i do think that yuzu doesn’t deserve such low marks. 2. Yes I completely agree that jiyoon and jeunguen are completely incomparable but why jiyoon got more scores?! I still remember while watching and judges were praising jiyoon saying how she got expressions feeling the music something.. and bam..jiyoon face shows up.. she’s singing with her eyes closed completely feeling herself. And at that time I couldn’t agree more with the judges. But I also think that junguen doesn’t deserve less. I think she’s could already debut given her talent! 3. I totally agree when you said sujung and juwon deserved more. For me the worst dancer was Mai. What surprised me was that even mai was the worst they decided to give juwon and sujung same score as mai. Totally undeserved. 4.JEEMIN slayed the stage down! Like god forbid she bit her lips two time and yall here complaining. But i see the full picture and I could see that she gave the vibes from start to finish. If i had to rank then 1.jeemin 2.sujung 3.juwon 4.saebi 5.mai 5. Totally agreed what u said about sarang. Girl really had a lot of expressions to show but vocally she did not and yet she got more scores?? That’s questionable. Whereas fuko and gyuri did extremely well. Well in the end i can confirm Jeemin, jiyoon, jeungeun, fuko, saebi, koko are going to debut. I could really see the potential in sujung but my gurl really pushed herself in something she could have otherwise not had been. Like i know she is focused in getting main vocal every time but if from start she could display of what she’s actually is an expert of i.e, dancing..maybe things could have gone different. And juwon, my girl really tries hard . Like she is good dancer and have good expressions but in every performance she gets overshadowed. No hate but I really think that she doesn’t stand out too much. Or maybe it’s the editing. That’s all or maybe I have some more? Idk after writing this much my brain stopped working
But that’s the problem with Sujung. She did try to take the main dance parts, but the producers kept telling her “you look like a dancer who can just sing, not a singer who can dance” (?? As if there’s a problem with that?💀💀) and that if she’s going to keep only showing her dance then she should’ve just stayed in Street girl fighter (which is so fucked imo). Sujung tried to show her stage presence, vocals, and even choreographing, but the judges want too much from her.
I was TIRED of jiyoon's lowkey bullying and mean girl attitude, so i'm happy it's probably done. jungeun did nothing to deserve any of that, she's been getting shat on by everyone even the producers and i'm so done too
Idk why people are complaining about screen time.. the ones who aren’t getting much screen time now were the ones who got a decent amount in part 1.. like the amount of times they focused on Juwon in part 1.. honestly they didn’t even focus on koko much in part 1 besides that last episode.. Gyuri would probably be the only one that got very less in general..
well some contestants had a lot of screen time in both parts why can't juwon have that same treatment? they don't even give her credit we have every right to complain.
First of all, I want to highlight that I used a translator for English, so some parts may not be understood well, but I wanted to give my opinion 😭😭 It's very noticeable favoritism, and it's very obvious that they want to push certain specific girls through the editing of the program. I mean, all the good things only go to them, all the good comments are only directed towards them, the highest scores only go to them, when it's clear they're not the most outstanding, but rather those forced to stand out. *Cough Koko cough Saebi cough Jeemin cough.* 1. The rap unit: I'm tired of Koko being highlighted all the time, like she's an anime character, with Koko this and poor Yuju doesn't even exist, it seems like she did nothing. It was practically the Koko show, and in my opinion, Yuju did the best in rapping. In the part where the chorus was half sung, Yuju was the one singing but they focused on Koko. Even if Koko was at the back of the stage and Yuju was in front, they only focused on Koko. The dancing was another thing I didn't understand because supposedly it was a rap position, but rap is rap, not dancing. I mean, it wasn't even hip hop style to justify it, just normal dancing. 2. Then we have the dance unit. I don't understand the decision to include all 5 in this unit when two of them aren't the best dancers. They practically put them in this unit because they don't stand out in anything, just in being pretty. Since the audience and judges praise Saebi so much, I wonder how she made it to the top 12 when she has NEVER stood out. But the producers and the audience love her as if she sings and dances super well, when she's really basic. 3. Finally, there's Jeemin. Since episode 1, all she does is bite her lip, she hasn't done anything else. In every performance, she bites her lip and puts on a "sexy" face, and there are the producers and the audience so surprised because "it's a side of her we haven't seen". WTF, it's always the same, she always does the same thing. The only performance that I feel was consistent was the All Round one, where yes, it lacked rap, but the producers were fair with their scores. Finally, Gyuri stands out, but the audience scores for this unit gave higher points to the one who was off-key. 4. Lastly, the vocal unit. Both were on par. In short, it's known that Koko, Saebi, and Jeemin have a guaranteed spot in that group, by far. I don't know why the producers set such a high bar for some contestants (Sujung, Jungeun, Fuko). For them, the comments are: "They don't step out of their comfort zone, they're consistent but always the same." And then there's a lower bar for other contestants, where the comments are: "How refreshing, they've improved so much." When they've had the same shitty expression since episode one and haven't evolved at all. Because for some, it's bad to be in their comfort zone when they actually stand out there, and for others, it's the best thing when they keep doing the same thing since minute one of that program.
The only person that danced as much as jeemin was sujung I watched their fancams Did U watch jeemin's though? If U haven't, then do that first I don't think U should be blaming a pick for Doing well and getting very high scores direct Ur blame to meet for lowering Ur picks scores( btw U can keep coughing 😂) As for Saebi, do U know I was kinda jealous bcos I thought she might even be better than jeemin when I actually watched her for the first time I like expression actually, dance can't just draw u in if it's done with a robotic bite and did jeemin bite her lip in LVER 🙄🙄🙄
why have all people suddenly started hate chain towards Jeemin?? honestly my girl just gave the best performance... and people are like she is so overrated and blah blah blah can u blame us we are sticking with her since runext ... it's her aura that draw us towards her just becuz ur fav doesnot get favor from judges and audiences doesnot mean you can bash on her
I thought about it too so let me share my opinion: Why do people like saebi so much? The same goes for Mai (not in the worst way possible). Like what's so special about them? To be honest, they are not even that talented. All they could do is smile or make a "good" expressions when performing (especially Saebi). It's so obvious that it's pure favortism and nothing else. Like in IWALY test, I was so pissed off by it that I had no motivation to continue watching the show or whatsoever. (yes, I'm yapping about it again, cry about it if you don't like it). Koko should've won, Yuju too. How would Mai debut if you couldn't even sing one single like stably? And the worst part is, people were praising her for it and ignoring the fact that her voice was trembling and out of control. And Koko too, because saebi was too focused on making a good impression to the pds. And in this episode, Saebi, Koko and Jeemin were getting on my nerves. (really)
Same Koko's rap is just yelling, why can't she just be a dancer and leave it to more skilled yuju? And of course Sebi the OA Expressions and Jeemin the overhyped
@@Kiwipoi cry about it lol there's a reason why people like them. If you want Yuju to have the better parts in rapping because "she's so good at it" and Koko is "just good at dancing" then maybe she should rank higher than Koko. Y'all just mad because she's higher than your faves 🤭 Saebi is better at showing her facial expressions than your faves so stay mad. Jeemin is not overhyped, she's popular with the knetz and intl fans because she's that good. Yuju also came from another survival show but she's not on the same level as Jeemin because "she's not that good" and you have to face that. I rest my case. Bye!
I was scared watching this video bc I saw sooo many bad & stupid opinions on youtube & esp on twitter, but I honestly agree with 100% of what you said! I feel like so many people (esp the international ones) just like the girls which Mnet gave a storyline & they don't really care about talent. The amount of discussions I had with people who didn't understand why I support Gyuri, while their main pick was someone who just got the most average vocals & average dancing skills, and just a pretty smile + some mnet storyline...💀 I'm so glad that the producers are more in charge in part 2, I feel like the ranking is a lot more fair compared to part 1 Edit: Also your point about the "i don't get why the highest ranks always get the main parts" LITERALLY SAME!!! I'm still so mad at La Vie En Rose that someone who wasn't even able to hit the notes got the bigger parts while Gyuri, who is super stable & would have easily made it, did not 😭
I def agree with the producers about Sarang's potential, but idk if she's had a performance so far where her stage presence and vocals have been consistent throughout...it's really a sign that she needs more time to train. This is okay; Fuko also needed the time to train after gp999 and she's super ready to debut now.
honestly we have like the same top 6, because mine is 1. Sujung 2. Jungeun 3. Gyuri 4. Fuko 5. Jiyoon 6. Saebi 7.Yuju (if there is one) and for the rest of the girls 8. Juwon (i feel bad for her, she's really talented) 9. Koko (she's definitely improving but i'm not sure about her) 10. Jeemin (i know this is controversial, but she's made it through the whole show with just popularity) 11. Sarang (i'm not saying she's bad but she needs to improve her mistakes these last 2 episodes) 12. Mai (she's pretty but skillwise not near the other contestants)
I have an opinion and you are free to disagree with it no hate intended whatsoever. The reason why jiyoon ranks higher than jungeun is mainly because the easy to listen to quality and emotion of jiyoons voice. I feel like at some points jungeun kind of strains, and produces this kind of nasal voice, but I totally love her voice especially her high notes. And she should definitely be more shameless like the rest of the contestants so that imates just can't help but take a good look at her talent
@@shelfwarrior42 She dosent but imates are a about stylised vocals but jungeun is more of a belter, straight singing style kind of vocal. And it's more about the visuals don't be fooled into thinking they didn't vote because she was bad cause she wasnt
@@lovelyseo.18 I already know why the Korean fans hate her. But what I don’t understand is why the PRODUCERS have her an 80. It makes no sense at all. They clearly don’t want her to debut and I don’t want her to either. I just want to her to get out of there before they completely ruin her confidence and self esteem.
@@shelfwarrior42 if you watched runext you'd get it. The same thing happened to jiwoo. They say that because she has been consistently delivering, she should transcend to super human realms cause of course we know you're great already so give us more reasons to keep backing you up. Plus she is not really a fan pick so producers thought no one would notice if they casually dropped her. Plus she dosent really mesh well with the other contestants
@@lovelyseo.18 I’m not oblivious I know how survival shows work. They rig it from the beginning so the people they want can debut, that’s not a new thing. What we need to do is to stop normalizing that and just letting them control the votes like that. People decide not to vote for talented girls because they don’t think it is “realistic” for them to make it into the group when the producers hate them. People need to realize that that is exactly what they want to happen. The only way they can make it is if we actually vote for them. There is no “realistic” lineup until the final lineup is announced.
how was yuju in a black t-shirt with untouched hair and koko was given flattering outfit with an ariana grande ponytail, i love koko but they really hate yuju it’s sad
i started watching this late..so i havent seen the latest episode yet, but what i do know is that jungeun deserves to debut..that girl is just TOO TALENTED! (if she doesnt then my faith in survival shows is gone istg!)
Like finally someone who recognize that Gyuri is such a solid vocalist. She hasn't got main parts yet but I think she is able to and would pull it better.
I feel like Knetz are biased more than ever and judges can't stop showing their favouritism lol. Like a contestant can make mistake on the live stage but they will still give them high scores but jungeun gave the perfect performance but gave her one of the lowest score. I have already lost hopes from the knetz anyways because they will always choose visual over talent but atleast the judges could have performed their job better. I am honestly so disappointed. And now they have even added 50% Korean and 50% global votes. Bfr 50% KOREAN VOTES ??? No way at this rate Jungeun is making it. Forget about debuting I fear if she will even make into top 10. Also knetz are so hypocrite. They will tear the group to the shreds when the group can't sing but still won't vote for the talented people who can sing. Then don't complain if the group sounds awful. Honestly speaking the only reason jungeun will not make it to the group would be knetz and that's why I ranted so much here about them...
THE BACKLASH for not debuting Jungeun will HARSHER than ILLIT and Jiwoo mess at least in RUNext there are many trainee who can sing well, but ILAND 2 IS SO LACKING IN OPTION, even more than Produce 48 & 101
runext has more good singer? they had like 4 and none of them debuted only minju and said WONHEE herself that she can't sing live, they lip syncing all the time in runext.
Koko never stood out to me? Gyuri gives me vibes that she isn’t really ready for debut. I already know who is debuting just by looking at the ten girls left.
1:46 I highly agree, cuz a high placed contestant ofc gonna take the center/best part, and they would probably end up outshining others so they're gonna be ranked high again, it becomes a loop and was totally unnecessary tbh
My Top 6: Jungeun- Main Vocal, Lead Dancer, FOTG Jiyoon-Main Vocal, Visual Fuko-Leader, Lead Vocalist Koko-Main Dancer, Main Rapper Mai-Visual, Lead Rapper Saebi-Maknae, Center, Sub Rapper Honorable Mentions: Jeemin/Sarang/Juwon
@@aellnao Mai is not as bad as you think, all girls want center lines, but has Mai ever performed with them?No. I think she is talented and would shine if she were in the center, I hope that she will make her debut, but it is unlikely that this will happen
2:47 i also thought the same but maybe they think difference bc after the unit was revealed all the contestants were talking abt dance and vocal but no rap so idk
sadly, this is nothing new. i've been into kpop since 2009, i'm not a fangirl anymore (i'm 29 lmao), yet i keep watching survival shows like this (i like watching them idk) and everytime i end up being disappointed lmao. i still remember how disappointed i was with r u next's final lineup yikes??? visuals/favoritism are more important in the kpop industry than talent, that's a sad reality. i liked mai and jeemin at first, but i saw little/almost no improvement in them. i was shocked when i read that jeemin's been a trainee for six years, yet her level is still, let me say, low for someone who's been training for that long. i still think that she has potential, but why is she improving so slowly for someone who trained for so long? her dancing is not great, her singing is bad. that's weird. as for mai, at least she trained for less time (1 year and ? months idk)...but she still has to improve a LOT. i agree with you about the final lineup, gyuri will literally be wonhee 2.0, no doubt. i hope jungeun (and jiyoon) will debut, i really like both of them. mnet's shows will always be rigged, sigh.
I agree with gyuri being wonhee 2.0 based on visual and age preference for korean fans but based on talent I feel like gyuri is clearly superior so I wouldn't be mad if she debuted (even if she isn't in my top 6) Just hope we get jungeun, jiyoon and fuko in the final lineup so the group can at least be decent at live singing
@@via4000 Gyuri has kept up well with the group despite her age. With Wonhee the only compliment I can really give her is that she has a lovely vocal color. Unfortunately R.U.N. successfully gaslit people into believing that she is stable live even though the girl straight up said that she couldn't sing live. But enough about that mess of a show, at the end of the day Gyuri while favored by Koreans for her visuals + age actually has the talent and skill to back it up. She's been serving vocals since After Like and I feel like not enough people talk about that.
@@confusedgrapes349 plus not to mention her other qualities, she's a decent dancer and has good stage presence (especially while performing songs like after like and like ooh aah)
They make it so obvious who is going to debute with the screen time distribution and the story line given. Like we get it that they want Sarang to debute. They purposely treat some contestants like background characters. From the latest episode, I was so scared that jungeun might not debute because they kept giving her low score and low vote. Have to admit that during the latest vocal battle , it was one of her weakest performances, but she is still one of the best contestants in the show.
it wasn't a dance competition, but and acting / stage presence competition in this sense I can see why saebi ranked over sunjung. One little thing Ive notice is that being visuals girls taller then the other girls makes their dance look bigger / fuller. Honestly I prefer saebi over jeemin as the visual / center role, but jeemin is already a guaranty pick due her popularity, so I dont think that getting mai or /and saebi too dont make sense in a smaller group, they need more skilled people to actually sell sound only music in the long run, but the styles of songs chosen are easy in vocal technique so yeah they can go to just for popularity too.
Finally someone else thinks Gyuri did the best someone was fighting with me saying Sarang did better and if Gyuri is put in the lineup it’s gonna be another Wonhee💀
My top 6 with explanation Jiyoon great vocalist Jungeun also great vocalist and dancer Gyuri stable vocalist the industry need stable vocals more than anything else especially this gen Yuju main rapper material with Great flow and attractive tone Jeemin a center with a great skills Juwon dancer but she can sing she can save the group in the encore
Exactly! Why the hell does the rap unit has performance in it? Like we need to hear the rap. Idk about you, but when i heard both of them rapping for the "main dancer" part in lovesick girls. It was so fucking obvious who was better. They knew koko was good with performance but isn't that good at rapping. That's why they chose koko to be in rap unit instead of dance (which she should've been in). They also chose jeemin and saebi for the dance unit which is kinda dumb, like those two should have competed in the all rounder unit. They obviously don't have enough skills to compete sujung and juwon.
1:19 exactly what i was thinking! adding a dance choreography to the vocal unit would have been harmful for jiyoon, as the judges would be required to admit that jungeun's dance was better than jiyoon (not saying that jiyoon is a bad dancer) and consequently add points to jungeun's score (and maybe remove some from jiyoon's) i hate mnet and their favoritism, everything is just planned to help their pick (like the rap/performance unit, picking parts by ranks and some contestant's scores that weren't deserved imo)
after I saw R U NEXT and iland2 at that point I just wanna watch a real survival show based on real talents not visual and face expressions with no favoritism…
Honestly the one where you pointed out that many ppl dislike or hate sujung just bcz of her opinion in an individual battle. I appreciate you for voicing it. Sujung is one of my favourites. But when she voiced her opinions about mai. Ik she did that wrong. But it's literally an individual battle. It's clear everyone wants to be better than others. She was not that bad. And after they added the clips of sujung comforting mai. I am thankful to the editors. We know she's not bad. She even helped the teams so much by her ideas, and whenthe judges blamed sujung for taking over the leadership, i lost my mind. Like she didn't do it on purpose. Koko couldn't do it so she just helped her. What's so wrong about it?. After she got eliminated, she accepted it and said good things about every one of them. She deserved better. I hope sujung debuts soon
I'm so sad for Yuju and Sujung. You know what happens to Sujung, she's such a good dancer and a good vocalist, I really like her but the treatment she got was horrendous. And with Yuju, she's such a good rapper come on! I hate that they've been putting her together with Koko and making her less talented than Koko. And don't get me started in jungeun who is such an all-rounder yet her position and debut is so unstable and we don't know if she will make it
the same knetz voting and supporting for visuals over talents r the ones that r gonna be dragging these same girls when they inevitably struggle in encores and shit!! pls vote with ur brains and not mnets guys watching the full ver and the ver with reactions of these performances feel like two different stages the bias is insane
i don’t get how juwon is given the same score as mai and even lower than saebi when i think she actually performs the second best (i think jeemin did her part well) IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE?? and honestly… i think the producers might have their favorites but i do think mnet played a big role on the editing part, hence some of the praises or even comments about other trainees not being aired, idk tho it’s just my opinion, bcs wdym they only commented on some of the trainees and praised them but not the other…
Its funny how we already know the lineup 😂 mai have a chance in that lineup as well but now they are finally showing interest in gyuri so its either mai or gyuri for that last spot others are jeemin , saebi, sarang, koko, jiyoon if this ain't the lineup i will be gagged by mnet
Looking at jungeun in this episode honestly felt like she was burnt out and mentally unstable ( like u can see her fidgeting with her fingers it was concerning to see a 16 year old that way) and i think that she lost alot of weight after coming to i land 2 I'm honestly concerned for her health at this point... Also the vocal unit honestly was neck to neck and i can see why jiyoon won but i don't think that jungeun deserves that score i mean the difference should have been of not mor than 3 points but... i just hope they're all well and healthy.
100% agree with your rank of 12 and your opinion. I didn't even watch the show (I just watched the performances online). I was shocked to hear what their final scores were. Favoritism is so blatant. I don't care to watch the final episode -- I'll just watch a recap and see final results. 😔
im also not against like saebi and koko and sarang but like the things that mnet and producers grade them on is like what the heck but at this point i want some of them to just debut on their own and get the heck out of mnet
they’re dancing cause it’s called rap PERFORMANCE unit. I think they thought it’d be boring if it was just a rap and no dancing cause in vocals you get better emotion but rap has so much energy that it feels like dancing (just my opinion)
This has got to be one of the worst handling survival shows in history. I’ve even stopped watching it myself.. Yui and Lingling was literally gonna save this svs and they just eliminated her…. And they gave them soo much hope. All of it is red flags. I won’t even get my hopes up anymore
Okay I'll share my opinions too (let me know what you think) IF I WERE A BOY TEAM (JIYOON AND JUNGEUN) 1. I am so happy that Jungeun and Jiyoon finally apologized and honestly I wouldn't expect Jiyoon to apologize first but I'm glad she did since she is an Unnie and Jungeun was too shy to go up to her firstly 2. Seeing Jiyoon struggling and Jungeun helping her was really good and funny, I'm so glad the she managed to hit the note that wasn't in her vocal range 3. The performance was lit, the vocals were amazing and I'm so happy for both of them 4. Their voices mix very well, my ears were blessed while hearing them singing istg 5. I think this performance helped them not only to be friends again but also to improve their weeknesses (Jungeun improved her singing with adding some emotions and Jiyoon managed to hit an higher note than her usual) 6. I'm so happy that Jiyoon ranked 3rd but I'm very sad for Jungeun, she deserved way better, i think they both shined in their own way SPICY TEAM (KOKO AND YUJU) 1. They were so funny togheter! I really liked watching their funny moments! 2. I think the internim check was good but the producers praised it so much because the other teams were not as good as them 3. The producers are sleeping on Yuju, she was so good but since Koko got the 1st part she shined less than her 4. Koko was really good. I'm not korean but I can hear the improvement on her pronounciation 5. I don't know why they also had to dance as well 6. I definitely felt energy on the stage, the girls shined 4 WALLS TEAM (FUKO, GYURI AND SARANG) 1. First, this is an all-rounder performance, and this song only requires good vocals, some stage presence and decent dance... but where's the rap? the producers need to understand that this isn't all rounder if there's not the rap! 2. It's always the 3 of them performing the soft songs (like la vie en rose) 3. Fuko was good but nothing more, i think i already know hoow good she is that she can't surprise me anymore lmao 4. Gyuri was actually really good, i enjoyed a lot her vocals, a lot of praises to her (and she is also gorgeous lol) 5. Okay...guys don't hate me but...I think that Sarang is overrated. I mean, she did a mistake, it's okay, that happens, but it happens too often. And the producer don't notice it, but keep praising heer. She has good vocals, she dances good and she is also pretty but i think she is too tired now (I need the Sarang of the mic drop x sugarcoat) 6. Overall, the performance was okay MONEY TEAM (JEEMIN, SAEBI, MAI, SUJUNG AND JUWON) 1. Okay...Jeemin was the best. I really like that she is versatile and she can pull off almost every concept. Yeah, I know that she got the center position and we all knew she would stand out but hey, she did it and she was gorgeous. I have nothing more to say! 2. the freaking producers are sleeping on Juwon!!!!!! Y'all she is so talented and always catches my eyes, but she never gets noticed by the producers. I'm so sad she was eliminated, she is our main dancer!!!! 3. Saebi...There's a lot to say about her. I do think that Lee Jung was right, she only focused on being charming and pretty but she worked on that and her performance was decent. But I still don't think that she was better than Juwon or Sujung and also, why they would put Saebi in this performance team?! 4. I'm really sorry but I can't understand why you all like Mai that much. Her dancing isn't that good and i'm not a big fan of her facial expressions, but obiouvsly the producers keep picking her for the highest spots. Idk whyyyy, sorry Mai (I'm not hating her, she is a good girl but maybe she is not ready to be a kpop idol yet?) 5. Sujung, my little bean, she was sooooo good! Her dance is always very powerful but again, she is underrated and she got eliminated with Juwon (I'll miss her so much) 6. Overall, this seemed like a Jeemin and her back up dancer performance: it was good but not perfect OVERALL PERSONAL RANKINGS IN MY OPINION ONLY AFTER THIS EPISODE (NO HATE): 1. Jiyoon 2. Jeemin 3. Saebi 4. Fuko 5. Jungeun 6. Koko 7. Gyuri 8. Juwon 9. Yuju 10. Sujung 11. Sarang 12. Mai Disclaimer: this is not only based on the 9th episode, but i also considered the previous episodes and how much i am connected to the different girls! This was long, but thanks and let me know what you think!
my dream lineup (based on talent, not idol star quality (this is soo weird) ) 1. Sujung- she is the best dancer, leader and have stable vocals 2. Jungeun- whe need a main vocal pls 3. Gyuri- cute maknae with stable vocals and dance 4. Yuju- the main rapper 5. Jiyoon- main vocal 2.0 6. Fuko or Juwon- these 2 have they talent and deserve debut + Jeemin- she dont have a standard talent but if she dont debut all go crazy
the favouritism towards to sarang is killing me, i was support her but i don't want to see her debuting anymore just because of this favouritism cuz she'll be likely debuting as an PD choice exc in the end and it's not fun
they definitely don't want yuju in the line-up, which is why they're pushing koko as a rapper to prove that the debut group can already have a member that can rap without yuju. even someone who knows nothing about k-pop could take one look at their outfits and tell who the favourite is.
I think yuju is a great performer but I honestly dont see the hype with her rapping but that could just be me. Like the lovesick girl performance was mid for her. Koko did better with the rapping and dancing together. Most rappers in kpop groups are strong dancers. Unfortunately yuju is still a mid dancer. Im happy that koko debuted and will probably be the rapper and main dancer. It suits her well.
It is so obvious that suddenly the songs and performance are kept on favoring in Jeemin and suddenly she is shining because 70% of screen time is on her. Also, I find I-Mate unfair mainly because most of them are there to see and cheer for Jeemin and Koko, while the others with less fans but better talent are hidden under the stone, which affect other rankings badly. The advantage of higher ranks is also suspicious, because the others only have 2 members, so why is it necessary? Another, when Sarang voice cracked in her 2 performance it's called improvement because she's nervious. But when it comes to Jungeon they always said, "I expect a lot more."
Discrediting koko will not give you peace. No matter how someone trained long but matter is when she can put the effort in stage. For me koko deserved the fcking victory and this is why she's p01 , stay mad on Koko she's a main rapper and main dancer as well. No one will care who's technically better cuz in stage koko seems to be good and captivating than yuju then you guys will say she got lots of lines , yes cuz she's a center this is why . Remember yuju took main dancer position on lsg performance but even didn't stand out cuz she can't pull stage as koko where koko got least line but i won't deny she's a great rapper/ dancer
FINALLY A CHANNEL WHO HAVE THE SAME OPINION AS ME Girl i love your so much i mean so much YOU ARE SO BRAVE FOR SPEAKING ALL THIS FACTS LOUD!!! bow down to your braveness, and thanks a lot for understanding my baby yuju and sujung!!!!!!
omg agree with everything! worst of all is that the audience that is voting for them is the same audience who constantly hates on recent gen Kpop saying they only focus on debuting visual not talent...as if they weren't the ones voting for the visuals themselves💀. also I know I will get hate but jee min has no reason to be ranked so high. she's talented yes, but there are A LOT of contestants way better than her. better dancing, raping and specially singing. im voting for jungeon since the begging, my top three are jungeun, jiyoon and fuko.
I have a strong feeling that Mai will be choosen as a producers pick atlast !!!! YK there always a controversial pick in a survival show and this time it can be mai Ik she been Falling apart in part 2 but let's all be real She was clearly shown as a great trainee with good nature and a positive thinking by which it will make people to let her in the group Later they pushed her portraying as a very understanding and sacrificing person during the ( see-saw game ) where she gave up on whitsle for YUJU !!!! Thats a clear stunt to show her as a good contributing person for this line up This was not enough that later they pushed her as a very creative , manageable person who has a great sense of imagination and creativity over that they gave her as a great leader role to show us all that how great person Mai is and she can be a great leader too ( during the unit battle creative ep this was not enough that , that Judge 24 just randomly praised Mai that she is doing good in back ( that's a clear thing to say that they wanted us to believe Mai did better than yuju and she was quiet memorable while YUJU was so forgettable and got unnoticed unlike mai ) Then there was lee jung who named her as impact princess!!!! And in part 2 in ep 9 like lmao Mai was being so rough and lazy during the practice time And lee jung PLAYED AS A ' POLITE LEADER FOR HER ". While they are YUJU alive during love sick girls practice check Even Monika was there too !! Like two grown ass women eating a 16 year old girl 🤡🤡 bcs she was not doing the way they want her to do While they are being angelic towards Mai This is clearly favouritism to me YK half of the producer's love her !!! Like for being pretty and idk some impact ( which I don't feel ) but umm they do !!! They loved mai from day 1 Like in drama part when she did that Karina rap part "ZIGI ZIGI" She lowkey sound like tone deaf ( like fr it was her worst perfomance imo ) After the perfomance ended I was so ready to see Mai being bashed by the judges But they say they were enchanted???? 🤡Like tf ??? Girl imagine you are hearing that "ZIGI ZIGI MAI PART THROUGH A EAR PIECE ALL OF A SUDDEN AND ITS IN THE STARTING OF THE SONG" how they managed to listen it ???? Girll Monika said she was enchanted by Mai tough energy in BEGINNING LIKE GIRL YOU ARE ENCHANTED BY HER SOUNDING TONE DEAF ??? 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀 AND THE MOMENT THEY WERE CALLED LEE JUNG JUST DROOLED OVER MAI VISUAL SAYING SHE HAS A TRENDY FACE AND ALL !! BY THAT ONE STATEMENT I WAS SURE PRETTY PRIVILEGE GONNA HAPPEN FR 😍 And you can see how much producers even love her bcs they didn't showed us the clip where she was actually being criticised ( as she should be ) by taeyung but the producer's didn't show that bcs that can show her as a weak contestant from the begining of the show which can make it very hard for the producers to push her harder in further episode to be in the final line up!!! Atlast I wanna say mai is deserving She is really talented and has a good mindset it's not her fault she is being favoured but This favouritism is wild assf and so fking noticable Well she is one of my pick And I love her And this judges ughh will kick them in their ass !! If this favouritism like this continues ( except taeyung ) bcs he is the most genuine one their it seems and that girl vvn too like she is just basic judge and i don't have alot issue about her
get ignorant in these comments if you want to, just know, you will be BLOCKED. i want my channel to be a place where everyone can share their opinions safely. and i would like to apologize if i gave off the impression that i hate any of the girls. it's not their fault it's mnet's and those evil ass producers.
I agree with your views on your video. It was accurate 👌🏼
I agree with everything, especially with the dance Juwon and Sujung should have gotten a higher score than Saebi. I just wish the positions were not up to the highest rank cuz that is just so unfair.
ur really rude with jiyoon when it comes to jungeun. calling her a mental warfare and saying she wouldn’t win if she had to dance. that was uncalled for
@user-lr2hh3bv1n koko can dance, and she performs well on stage. Yuju does more than that.
@@Rhewi imo koko is better
FINALLY SOMEONE HAS THE SAME OPINIONS AS ME!!
The money performance, I truly think Jeemin deserved it because her techniques and skills are good but Sujung and Juwon deserve more points than Saebi tbh. This the DANCE unit, but the producers just judged based on the facial expression so it's kinda unfair. Yuju was literally SO good, but literally 16 points difference???? Koko is excellent but why did the producers based on the dance more than rap??? This is literally the RAP unit. And literally, Sarang cracked her voice and she got 84, WHILE Jungeun sang SO heavenly and only got 80??? This show is SO biased, wth???
If u will exactly notice all the points were given acc to the stage presence the stage presence of yuju is not as good as kokos just seeing koko make u feel energetic and exciting it shows she is an idol but seeing yuju is like she is a rapper
@@TShrutiit was a rapper position. Yes with a performance but thats a plus. They didnt even wrote their own rap, can you guess why? Because they know Koko cant, and they want her for the rapper position. Its so obvious
@@TShrutithey are picking idols, withstanding rap AND performance, not plain rappers
@@Anahi-z4v these days the amount idols who write their own rap has been reduced their are few who write their raps and being an idol is not about creativity its all about their skills and how they execute it . Yuju is a great rapper and koko is good to but not as good as her and in dance also both are good but the only thing is yuju has a bit awkward expression acc to me but kokos vibe and expressions matches the song she has that rapper quality
@@Anahi-z4v i like rappers like lisa and jennie who have great stage presence u enjoy such raps
It’s so obvious how they set Yuju up to be overshadowed by Koko. The RAP battle was mainly focused on DANCE because they wanted Koko to stand out. None of the Judges are rappers so they only ranked them by dance. Even though Yuju is a far better rapper, they didn’t point out her rapping at all.
It’s also OUTRAGEOUS that Sujung and Juwon got the lowest scores as professional dancers. These rats are so shameless when they’re not hiding their favoritism.
I seriously need Sujung, Jungeun, Juwon, and Yuju to LEAVE. They need to get out of there as quick as possible because these evil ass producers and mnet are out to ruin their lives. I’m extremely concerned about their mental health. They should take Fuko with them to because I can tell they’re trying to make us forget about her.
I agree with absolutely everything you said!!
Real. Sujung, Yuju and Jungeun were robbed.
not rats 💀💀
It’s a rap performance. What did you want them to stand still during a dance break? Also being a professional at something doesn’t mean you should automatically do better. You don’t need to be a professional rapper to rank rapping because it’s subjective. I could be a “professional rapper” and say Yuju sucks while another “professional rapper” says she’s good.
@@parasol3561 The point is that there shouldn’t be a dance break in the first place. It’s a Main Position mission. Their main position is RAP, not DANCE. That’s what the dance unit is for.
A main rapper mission should require them to write their own rap and show their own colors on stage. Rap stages don’t usually come with a set choreography. They’re just supposed to attract the audience with their own unique swag and emotions. They were given no creative freedom as “main rappers.”
You said that they could have different opinions on rap but the thing is they didn’t even talk about rap in their feedback at all. If they didn’t prefer Yuju’s rap over Koko, then they would have said that, but they didn’t. They only pointed out Koko’s facial expressions, pronunciation, and dance. All they said to Yuju was “you did good.” It’s clear that they were biased from the start.
The special guest judge was giving me hope, when everyone was complimenting koko and Jiyoon he at least also praise yuju and jungeun
Ig they forgot to give jaehwan the script so he was being real
@@jawadhasan8287he didn’t receive the email titled Ridicule Yuju Jungeun Sujung and Juwon Under any circumstance
Honestly by watching the show I thought it was obvious the company wants to debut Jungeun, Yuju.
But we will see in the last ep😮
Every judge has their favourite
For example: Monica Sarang
Leejung Saebi
Taeyang jiyoon
omg this is so accurate
the judges least favorite
monica - sujung
24 - basically dislike everyone
@@kaia5868 totally agree 💯
Especially they underrate juwon who is actually better than saebi koko
Tbh LeeJung is most sensible and doesn't favor anyone.
Monika always has a break down when a contestant makes a mistake but praises sarang. Like dude wtf
The favoritism in this show is too muchhhh!! So annoying
the favoritism in this show is crazy..
in part 1 yuju made a mistake and got sent to ground immediately, but sarang can mess up twice and get into the top 6? 😵💫
and mind you it’s PART 2, the judges should be stricter like the trainees are so close to debuting there is no room for error 😭
Yuju baggy jeans mistake looked so unbothered and she continued to dance with confidence. Sarang looks so awkward when her voice cracks shows towards the end of the perfomance
Yesssss u r veryyyyyyyyy right imma say it again Mnet is blind and thinks we are blind too but no one actually said that bcz when Sarang voice cracks everybody is like ooh it's okay she is our baby she is nervous it's okay this and that but when Yuju did that or someone else they be like become monsters and hate them and send them to ground
This episode had me so upset. I love Sarang, but the judge’s favoritism towards her is lowkey ruining her for me. How did she get in the top 6 when she made a mistake, but Jungeun delivers a flawless preformance and gets 10th??? I was confident the judges were gonna have her back but now i’m not sure. She’s been one of the best contestants since episode 1, yet it seems like neither the fans or the judges are acknowledging her. If she doesn’t make it into the lineup i’ll go crazy.
Everyone in the top 12 is so talented that I feel like so many girl’s will be robbed regardless of the outcome.
Also I don’t really understand the hype around Mai. I like her determination to improve and her attitude, but I feel like she’s only liked for her visuals and stage presence. She’s not untalented, but she doesn’t really stand out talent wise and she doesn’t deserve to debut over Jungeun.
Anyway this is my lineup
1. Jungeun
2. Jeemin
3. Jiyoon
4. Saebi
5. Fuko
6. Koko
VOTE JUNGEUN ON MNET+ SHE MUST DEBUT‼️
I HAVE THE SAME LINEUP 😝
MY EXACT LINEUP
The people who deserve to score higher was the rap group and the all rounder group. Why? Because they had to sing n dance or rap and dance. How do yoy expect the dance group that danced only and the vocal group that sang only to be on the same scale with them. Since you are obviously not a sarang fan please stop mentioning. You are obviously trying to bring hate to her as if she is not better that some on your line up.
my line up
same line up
THAT WAS LITERALLY WHAT I SAID 4 WALLS WAS NOT AN ALL ROUNDER SONG. IT DIDN'T REALLY HAVE MUCH DANCE BUT MORE VOCAL AND I GENUINELY DO NOT KNOW WHY THEY DIDN'T HAVE A RAP. ITS AN ALL ROUNDER 😭😭😭😭🤚
Make sure to vote choi jungeun!!
i will
I literally cried when Jungeun scene (Her crying and saying she can't talk to anyone, Jiyoon mad at her) AND I CRIED EVEN MORE when they apologized, hold hands, laughed. ISTG I love Jungeun and Jiyoon more than my whole life (Crazy, but it might be real)
Also, here are my opinions too BECAUSE I AM PISSED AND NEED TO RANT AND IT\S LONG
-Also I kinda agree with the whole rap has dance AND also the highest thing, that's so stupid but it's also a motivational thing and I don't mind it,
-I kinda liked the training thing, It was funny but didn't really matter that much
- I'M LIKE so sad with Saebi being 7 and the trio breaking up
-Also, there was a rap verse? Isn't it all-rounder?
- It was so sweet of her to hug Mai and seeing Mai cry, I cried too (I cry for everyone)
-I like her lip bites tho, also with Saebi's expression it's like JUST GOOD???
- Tbh idk how you thought there was favoritism to Jungeun but yeah, I think it's because Jiyoon had more emotions on her parts and acting BUT JUNGEUN LITERAL DID GOOD TOO?? They even praised her?? FOR AN 80? BISH U BETTER BE JOCKING OR I'M GONNA RUNWAY MY FAT AS THERE AND RIOT??? I get that Jungeun isn't always gonna be better BUT DUDE?? She showed EVERYTHING here (wanted her in all-rounder ngl) wouldve "accepted an 85+ BUT HELL NA 80????
-I don't think it was pretty privileges, but it's obvious they want Sujung OUT
-6 WAS little, there HAS to be a producers pick
- Who put Saebi in dance when stage presence, vocals, and being center was literally made for her, but okay sure mnet?/
More rant on Jungeun and Jiyoon
-I JUST WANT JIYOON AND JUNGEUN TO DEBUT OKAY MNET U BETTER SHUT UR EDITING AND DEBUT THEM BOTH. Like 10th? (I think) bfr I'm gonna whack a whoopie cushion on ur face mnet. THE WAY THEIR VOICES BLENDED TOGETHER IS SOLID PROOF ON WHY THEY NEED TO DEBUT TOGETHER. Istg I'm gonna lose my mind. I'm gonna bang my head on the wall rn
Thank you for reading my rant, if you did:>
Agree!! 85+ would be acceptable (but for me she deserves at least 89 or 90) BUT 80?!? I hate how they praised her before revealing the score then proceeded to give her an 80. Their whole performance was flawless, the combination of their voices were really good and Jungeun's acting really did improve it even made me cry. I'm losing hope in this show, they're not giving any attention to Jungeun's vocals and skills anymore since they're seeing that the others are improving. I'm hoping that something will change for Jungeun, I want her to debut.
where can i watch it with eng sub
I DID AND I AGREE
@@hhhhtt3 bilibili
@@hhhhtt3 BILIBILI
A rap unit, but no lyrics were written, a damn rap unit with a dance break? None of those judges were even qualified to be judging anything that had to do with rapping, Koko should’ve been in the dancing unit.
it's not rap unit, you need watch the episode 9 again. It's Main Rap Performance = Rap + Dance
@@ilovpuresoul8366 There's no such thing as rap performance tbh, that was a made up category for koko to look better because we ALL know if they stuck to rapping yuju would've won, so they made them dance when in reality they should've strictly made them rap just like they did with the main vocal unit.
@@ediiixy no such thing -_____- you didn't watch the whole episode or didn't understand, Mnet made 4 position unit and for main rap performance unit description was clearly the member must do perform attractively as idols with rapping skill. So it's not just rap, it's rap dance.
"they should've strictly made them rap just like they did with the main vocal unit" lol why are you organizing this should be this should be that, make your own show then 😂 viewers should realize and admit that Koko's performance >>> Yuju's.
@@ilovpuresoul8366you’re blind to the way mnet is manipulating the show to debut who they want. No show ever has had a ‘rap performance’ unit. It was created for Koko to shine over Yuju because Yuju’s rap pronunciation and skills are better
@@morgenstern3086 just think about why Yuju lost
i am really glad you changed your opinion about jungeun favourism because all the praise she got before was valid she was THAT GOOD honestly if i had to pick between jiyoon and jungeun i would pick jungeun she is all rounder so she will be very useful in group so i kind of have hopes that she will debut
I just hope they both will debut, but I'm honestly really fearing for Jungeun's chances to debut since mnet clearly doesn't want her to...
i feel like jiyoon voice suits more of a soloist. a lot of ppl says she sounds like rose and i can hear it also. she has a very unique voice. the producers making them look like rivals throughout the episodes was dragging it honestly. im just glad they reconcile
@@onlymoon1 she definetly has ability to put emotion in her voice but i dont think it will fit as main in a group where teddy is composer
Yes
I really think that in the dance team Juwon and Sujung would have outshined the others if they had more screen time. And for the last episode when the « I am the best » team performed Juwon caught my attention from the first seconds. She’s really changed and is more impactful since she worked on her facial expressions.
_ The main vocal position performance was so beautiful and pleasant to listen. Justice for Jungeun because what the heck is this rank.
i literally meant to put in the video that if sujung and juwon would have took jeemin and saebi’s part, it would’ve been over for them.
definitely. in the pep rally preshow performance, jeemin had to perform a hip hop dance i wasnt even looking at her 😭 jungeun and minsol ate her uppppp. she was the person i knew before this show and was rooting for but she was ultimately outshined there 😭
Jungeun carries EVERY performance, she’s just vocally so far ahead of the other girls and the audience refuses to admit that. I’m also not saying the other girls are bad at all, they just are progressed more in other areas, Fuko is not far behind her. Fuko, Saebi, Jeemin, Jungeun, Jiyoon, and Gyuri are my top 6 rn. All the girls have worked their tails off and they all deserve all the praise. But if Choi Jungeun doesn’t debut, you KNOW this show is rigged in every way.
YES!!
YOUR TOP 6 SLAYS
@@Lex_L12345 thank youuu!🫶🏻
This is honestly the best opinion I’ve heard on ILAND2 yet
The way everytime they just bite their lip to have better expressions when the producers tell them is fun because sometimes it doesn't match with the song's meaning so it's giving "a bit too much" effect.
yesss! for me, it was sarang on iwaly.
the main dancer position is not even a main dancer battle y’all. because the key point of that performance is who could do the lip bite expression better lol. jeemin and saebi did not even use their height to their advantage. they’re awkward and stiff. as a street dancer myself the score given by the judges last night is so ridiculous that make monica and leejung lose their credibility as a dancer in my eyes. both girls clearly still held on that “i’m pretty” expression during the performance. son juwon doesn’t even appear much last night. or did she? i only see her 3 seconds giving reaction and that’s it. pretty sure both juwon and sujung will be out next episode
@_aerinaI mean the whole main point of being an idol is to stand out is it not? If it was really about who is the best dancer then we would be talking about dancing careers this is to be an idol not a dancer, a trot singer, or a rapper. The most important aspect of being an idol at the end of the day is to stand out. Especially with how competitive the industry is talent is important but if you can hold your own and stage it doesn't matter if someone is more talented than you because if you stand out more that you will always win. Why do you think girls like Wonyoung are so popular
@_aerina you got the point, it's all about who can stand out on stage 💯
@_aerina see watching an idol who cannot deliver emotions and is talented is not fun at all u need to have a really good stage presence to be an idol
I've said this many time
They only care about facial expressions when it comes to jeemin, saebi and mai
But recently they have forgotten about mai ig
Jeemin and saebi just live off their face
Plus jeemins gets votes not because she's talented most of them are sympathy votes
It is true she was a better trainee than who debuted in illit but in here she couldn't even come near some people's skill level
If Jungeun did not debut, they literally just used her with all the drama with Jiyoon.
If there's a producer's pick and either of these two is already at the line up, im certain that the other one would not get chosen.
Lastly, i dont see a difference between Fuko and Jungeun yet Fuko still got a higher score. They said Fuko is always stable and do good job every performances but so is Jungeun yet Jungeun got way way lower than everybody else.
Absolutely right. No Justice. Annoying shows
That what I've been saying since the beginning of the drama. They only use jungeun to promote and gain fanbase for jiyoon, everybody saying it evil edit, no they know what they are doing. They know people will sympathise, they use jungeun to build the main character story for jiyoon
They really screamed at Yuju last time but when Mai was doing bare minimum she was called beautiful and a good dancer lol. The difference in treatment is crazy.
Remember when they kept giving her dirty faces looked so angry. I feel so bad for she's 16 and telling her to be more "boyish". Spice there was only 2 ppl yet they only gave koko feedback
Now i'm voting everyday to yuju, juwon and jungeun
omg I'm voting for those exact 3 as well!
@@nathalie1793 🙏 lets make at least one of them debut!!
Tbh I was excited to watch the Spicy performance since Yuju is my #1 pick, but I just felt frustrated watching the performance because mnet made it very obvious through their editing they actually wanted it to be a Koko solo performance with Yuju as background dancer. Nothing against Koko though, I like her, but mnet can't make it any less obvious they want her to debut and Yuju not to debut. Yuju gets so little screentime so people might look over her, but all her fancams show exactly how good her stage presence is and why she deserves to debut
It was PAINFULLY obvious. That performance was literally made to highlight Koko.
Thank you! Especially when looking at their outfits it becomes blatantly obvious that they are pushing Koko.
From a fellow yuju one pick
Yuju was robbed
I like Koko, I think the dancing position fits her best. I don’t know why they did put her in that position. That being said it’s great see her put effort in it. Seems like they want a rapper, but they don’t want Yuju to be it (which is sad because she’s a good contestant).
Yooo I was watching the performance and the camera barely landed on Yuju. I was so confused😭😭
GUYS ALWAYS THE THEME SONG CENTRE DEBUTS !!!!
SO HOPING JEUNGEUN TO DEBUT!!!
JIYOON LESSGO WITH JEUNGEUN TO ( DEBUT STAGE )
She will debut
Manifesting this to happen
when I was watching the ranking of ep 9 I can’t even express how pissed off I was. People start hating on sujung just because she just started talking bad about Mai but wasn’t she saying what we were all thinking? Mai, although she has potential, doesn’t particularly shine out amount the ilanders. In no way am I excusing sujung’s behaviour, but I kind of understand where her anger comes from. This is a survival show and they aren’t required to help one another. The entire ep9 was biased and extremely infuriating. Why did the rap unit need to dance, but the vocal unit didn’t need to?? The producers did yuju wrong. Her rap skills definitely eat koko up, but they were ranked based on dance. Saebi should not have been ranked higher than sujung and juwon. They have so much potential but the producers just choose to ignore it?? And everyone just likes Mai for no reason. She doesn’t have a particularly good area that she shines in, such as vocals or dance. All I’ve seen people praising her for is her visuals. But idols are t just visuals, they need to be able to sing and dance well. About sarang though, her voice cracked in La Vien Rose and the4 walls, but the producers say she’s improving? And she ranks higher than so many others who should’ve been in the top 6?? If this isn’t bias if I don’t know what this is. My ideal lineup would be sujung, jiyoon, jungeun, fuko, gyuri, koko and jeemin
I agree with most of what you said but, Sujung didn't really "talk bad about Mai." All she said was that she knew what the problem with Mai's vocals was and in the past she would've told her about it but since its an individual mission, she wont. I dont get how thats offensive.
@@Chaereallywon_1 yes!! sujung was not rlly even talking about mai. if anything she just showed her character!!
@@Chaereallywon_1I completely agree with what you said, but i wanted to avoid some conflict among other people if they believed that sujung did talk bad about mai. Anyway, sujung already proved that she redeemed herself (even though she didn’t need to) since she was the first one to hug mai when mai was crying, which shows that sujung DESERVES TO DEBUT. Everyone just judges her based on one line. It’s really sad.
@@jxynily_xoxo Yeah exactly. People are being stupid.
@@celieistrying Exactly
the amount of screentime for jeemin is soooooo annoying like let me see juwon
lol 💀
well thats not really jeemins fault now is it?? i love juwon too! but I feel like jeemin is able to shine more on a stage alone idk? juwons technical dancing is better, but jeemin has more appeal on a stage to the audience
@@lalalalala11112 of course its not her fault, i dont hate her its just that i wish they would put more screentime on others too
@@39myki no no i totally agree with that!!! i feel like gyuri, juwon, sujung, fuko, and yuju are the contestants that would shine SO MUCH if mnet gave them a chance. all the girls are so talented and these judges are picking and choosing. :(( I love jeemin so much she is my top pick, but I wish the judges would focus on the other girls along with her, since her debut is pretty much secured. i agree with u 100%!
@@lalalalala11112 yes exactly jeemins debut was secure the second she was announced!! i rlly wish to see the other girls shine more
for the part about jiyoon saying “how does it feel to be in 8th place” I don’t think that’s something she said to jungeun 😭 im very sure it was a voiceover that mnet did, maybe even from jiyoon talking about herself from her ranking before
i meant to say if “she she even said it” Mnet so damn shady.
There ain’t no way she said that, like it had to be editing or something. Idk why Mnet is bullying these girls, it’s so frustrating.
I feel like it was scripted
@@sarah40212 Same, they got the lineup and we’re just watching for fun I guess.
Mnet doesnt give screen for jungeun , sujung , juwon . Its insane
Dont forget to include Yuju - in the latest episode, my girl's screen time was taken up by koko and other contestants/judges screaming "OMG KOKO DAEBAK!!!" I like Koko but cmon... show atleast 1 Yuju appreciation scream like "Yuju omg your rapping tone is amazing" i lowkey raged :p
To be fair Juwon got plenty of screen time in part 1.. Same with Jungeun and Sujung.. Gyuri is the real victim.. Less screen time in part 1 and 2..
@@MrYuyu143 well yesss
@@MrYuyu143 but part 2 is very important
@@MrYuyu143 atleast she got complimented - the producers said stuff about her being good, they did not about yuju
Honestly, it would be better for Jungeun, Yuju, Sujung, and Juwon aka the robbed ones so that mnet’s and the producers’ favorites could shine to not debut here. Although I do want them to win a spot, but with the disrespect their getting throughout part 2??? You CAN’T tell me that the show’s best rapper, best technical singer with the most flexible range (mind u she wasn’t even vying for a vocal position she was mostly trained in dance like her older sister), and the two best and properly trained dancers (one was even a LEADER in SFWG, like?!) are all part of the bottom ranks . The debuting group would be under Wakeone anyway not the blacklabel nor YG. So honestly don’t mind if they don’t debut because MNET/Wakeone does not deserve these talents.
i completely agree w ur ranking!! justice for jungeun, juwon, & sujung bc those girls are too talented for this rigged show
it’s like, if you are going to treat participants this way, what’s the point of doing a show like this, just debut your favorites instead of doing all of this lol
my lineup is
koko
jeemin
saebi
jiyoon
jungeun
yuju
fuko
sarang
mai
gyuri
sujung
juwon
it hurts me how saebi jeemin and koko is out on your top 6 but i hope you'll not be mad if they debut tho :( they all deserve to debut ! let's support whoever debuts < 33
I was definitely getting anti koko vibes from this video…. I’ll be supporting koko for sure. I won’t be mad at final line up tho because all 12 girls work hard and are talented in their own ways. We should definitely normalize not tearing another contestant down to boost up another
Tell me one reason why koko is better than jungeun juwon jiyoon??. And other trainee. I swear people are voting stupidly srsly?? And Mai being above Jungeun?? Wowww.
The actual ranking should be
1) Koko
2) jiyoon
3) Fuko
4) Jeemin
5) Jungeun
6)Yuju
7) Sujung
8)Saebi
9) Gyuri
10)Juwon
11) Mai
12) Sarang
@@saifn.7747 well I think sarang is great vocalist her ranking should be 3or4
It is due to fans' bias and favoritism -- including the producers. Talent is not measured when someone is securing a spot in the group unfortunately.
@@Arian673 sarang got mistake in back 2 back performances and still ranked higher. And the producers still gave her a good score. I know sarang is one of their fav. But dont make it really obvious. No hate for sarang she is one of my picks too. I just want a fair competition.
I’ll give u two, she’s a better dancer and rapper than the mentioned trainees.
Also love (note: sarcasm) how you can clearly see the show's bias down to the outfits
I do agree at some points but had to disagree on some but no hate, i do respect ur opinions tho.
1. Like i prefer yuzu rap tone but i also think koko is good in rapping too. In lovesick girls u said that yuzu deserved more but u forgot that in lovesick girl they were fighting for main dancer position not rapping, and even with small part I think koko really showed herself. I don’t even stan koko but watching the performance I could kinda get why judges like her. Cuz I would prefer yuzu rap but koko more in stage. But i do think that yuzu doesn’t deserve such low marks.
2. Yes I completely agree that jiyoon and jeunguen are completely incomparable but why jiyoon got more scores?! I still remember while watching and judges were praising jiyoon saying how she got expressions feeling the music something.. and bam..jiyoon face shows up.. she’s singing with her eyes closed completely feeling herself. And at that time I couldn’t agree more with the judges. But I also think that junguen doesn’t deserve less. I think she’s could already debut given her talent!
3. I totally agree when you said sujung and juwon deserved more. For me the worst dancer was Mai. What surprised me was that even mai was the worst they decided to give juwon and sujung same score as mai. Totally undeserved.
4.JEEMIN slayed the stage down! Like god forbid she bit her lips two time and yall here complaining. But i see the full picture and I could see that she gave the vibes from start to finish. If i had to rank then 1.jeemin 2.sujung 3.juwon 4.saebi 5.mai
5. Totally agreed what u said about sarang. Girl really had a lot of expressions to show but vocally she did not and yet she got more scores?? That’s questionable. Whereas fuko and gyuri did extremely well.
Well in the end i can confirm Jeemin, jiyoon, jeungeun, fuko, saebi, koko are going to debut.
I could really see the potential in sujung but my gurl really pushed herself in something she could have otherwise not had been. Like i know she is focused in getting main vocal every time but if from start she could display of what she’s actually is an expert of i.e, dancing..maybe things could have gone different.
And juwon, my girl really tries hard . Like she is good dancer and have good expressions but in every performance she gets overshadowed. No hate but I really think that she doesn’t stand out too much. Or maybe it’s the editing.
That’s all or maybe I have some more? Idk after writing this much my brain stopped working
But that’s the problem with Sujung. She did try to take the main dance parts, but the producers kept telling her “you look like a dancer who can just sing, not a singer who can dance” (?? As if there’s a problem with that?💀💀) and that if she’s going to keep only showing her dance then she should’ve just stayed in Street girl fighter (which is so fucked imo). Sujung tried to show her stage presence, vocals, and even choreographing, but the judges want too much from her.
I was TIRED of jiyoon's lowkey bullying and mean girl attitude, so i'm happy it's probably done. jungeun did nothing to deserve any of that, she's been getting shat on by everyone even the producers and i'm so done too
Idk why people are complaining about screen time.. the ones who aren’t getting much screen time now were the ones who got a decent amount in part 1.. like the amount of times they focused on Juwon in part 1.. honestly they didn’t even focus on koko much in part 1 besides that last episode.. Gyuri would probably be the only one that got very less in general..
well some contestants had a lot of screen time in both parts why can't juwon have that same treatment? they don't even give her credit we have every right to complain.
First of all, I want to highlight that I used a translator for English, so some parts may not be understood well, but I wanted to give my opinion 😭😭
It's very noticeable favoritism, and it's very obvious that they want to push certain specific girls through the editing of the program. I mean, all the good things only go to them, all the good comments are only directed towards them, the highest scores only go to them, when it's clear they're not the most outstanding, but rather those forced to stand out. *Cough Koko cough Saebi cough Jeemin cough.*
1. The rap unit: I'm tired of Koko being highlighted all the time, like she's an anime character, with Koko this and poor Yuju doesn't even exist, it seems like she did nothing. It was practically the Koko show, and in my opinion, Yuju did the best in rapping. In the part where the chorus was half sung, Yuju was the one singing but they focused on Koko. Even if Koko was at the back of the stage and Yuju was in front, they only focused on Koko. The dancing was another thing I didn't understand because supposedly it was a rap position, but rap is rap, not dancing. I mean, it wasn't even hip hop style to justify it, just normal dancing.
2. Then we have the dance unit. I don't understand the decision to include all 5 in this unit when two of them aren't the best dancers. They practically put them in this unit because they don't stand out in anything, just in being pretty. Since the audience and judges praise Saebi so much, I wonder how she made it to the top 12 when she has NEVER stood out. But the producers and the audience love her as if she sings and dances super well, when she's really basic.
3. Finally, there's Jeemin. Since episode 1, all she does is bite her lip, she hasn't done anything else. In every performance, she bites her lip and puts on a "sexy" face, and there are the producers and the audience so surprised because "it's a side of her we haven't seen". WTF, it's always the same, she always does the same thing.
The only performance that I feel was consistent was the All Round one, where yes, it lacked rap, but the producers were fair with their scores. Finally, Gyuri stands out, but the audience scores for this unit gave higher points to the one who was off-key.
4. Lastly, the vocal unit. Both were on par.
In short, it's known that Koko, Saebi, and Jeemin have a guaranteed spot in that group, by far. I don't know why the producers set such a high bar for some contestants (Sujung, Jungeun, Fuko). For them, the comments are: "They don't step out of their comfort zone, they're consistent but always the same." And then there's a lower bar for other contestants, where the comments are: "How refreshing, they've improved so much." When they've had the same shitty expression since episode one and haven't evolved at all. Because for some, it's bad to be in their comfort zone when they actually stand out there, and for others, it's the best thing when they keep doing the same thing since minute one of that program.
The only person that danced as much as jeemin was sujung
I watched their fancams
Did U watch jeemin's though?
If U haven't, then do that first
I don't think U should be blaming a pick for Doing well and getting very high scores direct Ur blame to meet for lowering Ur picks scores( btw U can keep coughing 😂)
As for Saebi, do U know I was kinda jealous bcos I thought she might even be better than jeemin when I actually watched her for the first time
I like expression actually, dance can't just draw u in if it's done with a robotic bite and did jeemin bite her lip in LVER 🙄🙄🙄
why have all people suddenly started hate chain towards Jeemin??
honestly my girl just gave the best performance... and people are like she is so overrated and blah blah blah
can u blame us we are sticking with her since runext ... it's her aura that draw us towards her just becuz ur fav doesnot get favor from judges and audiences doesnot mean you can bash on her
@@tsonica07 why is any criticism hate? jeemin is one of my favs!! i HATE those biased ass producers!
the comment about the high bar for some and lower for others, it's exactly my thougths. It should be at least the same criteria for everybody
I thought about it too so let me share my opinion:
Why do people like saebi so much? The same goes for Mai (not in the worst way possible). Like what's so special about them? To be honest, they are not even that talented. All they could do is smile or make a "good" expressions when performing (especially Saebi). It's so obvious that it's pure favortism and nothing else. Like in IWALY test, I was so pissed off by it that I had no motivation to continue watching the show or whatsoever. (yes, I'm yapping about it again, cry about it if you don't like it). Koko should've won, Yuju too. How would Mai debut if you couldn't even sing one single like stably? And the worst part is, people were praising her for it and ignoring the fact that her voice was trembling and out of control. And Koko too, because saebi was too focused on making a good impression to the pds. And in this episode, Saebi, Koko and Jeemin were getting on my nerves. (really)
Same Koko's rap is just yelling, why can't she just be a dancer and leave it to more skilled yuju? And of course Sebi the OA Expressions and Jeemin the overhyped
@@KiwipoiI don’t think it’s her choice to be given a rap position so there isn’t a point for hating on her
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@@Kiwipoi cry about it lol there's a reason why people like them. If you want Yuju to have the better parts in rapping because "she's so good at it" and Koko is "just good at dancing" then maybe she should rank higher than Koko. Y'all just mad because she's higher than your faves 🤭
Saebi is better at showing her facial expressions than your faves so stay mad.
Jeemin is not overhyped, she's popular with the knetz and intl fans because she's that good. Yuju also came from another survival show but she's not on the same level as Jeemin because "she's not that good" and you have to face that.
I rest my case. Bye!
@@tanjiro3337 your case sucks bye :D
This video was not full of opinions …….. only straight facts!!!!!!! You are so right The favoritism is blatant in the show it’s so sad
I was scared watching this video bc I saw sooo many bad & stupid opinions on youtube & esp on twitter, but I honestly agree with 100% of what you said! I feel like so many people (esp the international ones) just like the girls which Mnet gave a storyline & they don't really care about talent. The amount of discussions I had with people who didn't understand why I support Gyuri, while their main pick was someone who just got the most average vocals & average dancing skills, and just a pretty smile + some mnet storyline...💀 I'm so glad that the producers are more in charge in part 2, I feel like the ranking is a lot more fair compared to part 1
Edit: Also your point about the "i don't get why the highest ranks always get the main parts" LITERALLY SAME!!! I'm still so mad at La Vie En Rose that someone who wasn't even able to hit the notes got the bigger parts while Gyuri, who is super stable & would have easily made it, did not 😭
I def agree with the producers about Sarang's potential, but idk if she's had a performance so far where her stage presence and vocals have been consistent throughout...it's really a sign that she needs more time to train. This is okay; Fuko also needed the time to train after gp999 and she's super ready to debut now.
Why is every survival show rigged 😭😭😭
honestly we have like the same top 6, because mine is
1. Sujung
2. Jungeun
3. Gyuri
4. Fuko
5. Jiyoon
6. Saebi
7.Yuju (if there is one)
and for the rest of the girls
8. Juwon (i feel bad for her, she's really talented)
9. Koko (she's definitely improving but i'm not sure about her)
10. Jeemin (i know this is controversial, but she's made it through the whole show with just popularity)
11. Sarang (i'm not saying she's bad but she needs to improve her mistakes these last 2 episodes)
12. Mai (she's pretty but skillwise not near the other contestants)
finally a sujung stan
Plz I just hope that my gurl jungeun debuts😭😭😭
oh girl u ate with this one
This is it! I couldn’t even express how mad this episode made me, but you explained it so well. ❗️❗️ Justice for jungeun
I have an opinion and you are free to disagree with it no hate intended whatsoever. The reason why jiyoon ranks higher than jungeun is mainly because the easy to listen to quality and emotion of jiyoons voice. I feel like at some points jungeun kind of strains, and produces this kind of nasal voice, but I totally love her voice especially her high notes. And she should definitely be more shameless like the rest of the contestants so that imates just can't help but take a good look at her talent
They gave her an 80. In no world did she deserve an 80.
@@shelfwarrior42 She dosent but imates are a about stylised vocals but jungeun is more of a belter, straight singing style kind of vocal. And it's more about the visuals don't be fooled into thinking they didn't vote because she was bad cause she wasnt
@@lovelyseo.18 I already know why the Korean fans hate her. But what I don’t understand is why the PRODUCERS have her an 80. It makes no sense at all. They clearly don’t want her to debut and I don’t want her to either. I just want to her to get out of there before they completely ruin her confidence and self esteem.
@@shelfwarrior42 if you watched runext you'd get it. The same thing happened to jiwoo. They say that because she has been consistently delivering, she should transcend to super human realms cause of course we know you're great already so give us more reasons to keep backing you up. Plus she is not really a fan pick so producers thought no one would notice if they casually dropped her. Plus she dosent really mesh well with the other contestants
@@lovelyseo.18 I’m not oblivious I know how survival shows work. They rig it from the beginning so the people they want can debut, that’s not a new thing.
What we need to do is to stop normalizing that and just letting them control the votes like that. People decide not to vote for talented girls because they don’t think it is “realistic” for them to make it into the group when the producers hate them. People need to realize that that is exactly what they want to happen. The only way they can make it is if we actually vote for them. There is no “realistic” lineup until the final lineup is announced.
how was yuju in a black t-shirt with untouched hair and koko was given flattering outfit with an ariana grande ponytail, i love koko but they really hate yuju it’s sad
And juwon and sujung being given the shittiest outfits compared to the rest of the team members
That disgusting matte glove and shirt should be fired lmao vote yuju
this is brutally honest and reallest opinion tho.
1:15 and 2:47 is so real
My first thought was "its weird that there is no rapping if it's all rounder unit"
i started watching this late..so i havent seen the latest episode yet, but what i do know is that jungeun deserves to debut..that girl is just TOO TALENTED! (if she doesnt then my faith in survival shows is gone istg!)
Like finally someone who recognize that Gyuri is such a solid vocalist. She hasn't got main parts yet but I think she is able to and would pull it better.
I feel like Knetz are biased more than ever and judges can't stop showing their favouritism lol.
Like a contestant can make mistake on the live stage but they will still give them high scores but jungeun gave the perfect performance but gave her one of the lowest score. I have already lost hopes from the knetz anyways because they will always choose visual over talent but atleast the judges could have performed their job better. I am honestly so disappointed. And now they have even added 50% Korean and 50% global votes. Bfr 50% KOREAN VOTES ??? No way at this rate Jungeun is making it. Forget about debuting I fear if she will even make into top 10.
Also knetz are so hypocrite. They will tear the group to the shreds when the group can't sing but still won't vote for the talented people who can sing. Then don't complain if the group sounds awful. Honestly speaking the only reason jungeun will not make it to the group would be knetz and that's why I ranted so much here about them...
THE BACKLASH for not debuting Jungeun will HARSHER than ILLIT and Jiwoo mess
at least in RUNext there are many trainee who can sing well, but ILAND 2 IS SO LACKING IN OPTION, even more than Produce 48 & 101
runext has more good singer? they had like 4 and none of them debuted only minju and said WONHEE herself that she can't sing live, they lip syncing all the time in runext.
Koko never stood out to me? Gyuri gives me vibes that she isn’t really ready for debut. I already know who is debuting just by looking at the ten girls left.
1:46 I highly agree, cuz a high placed contestant ofc gonna take the center/best part, and they would probably end up outshining others so they're gonna be ranked high again, it becomes a loop and was totally unnecessary tbh
My Top 6:
Jungeun- Main Vocal, Lead Dancer, FOTG
Jiyoon-Main Vocal, Visual
Fuko-Leader, Lead Vocalist
Koko-Main Dancer, Main Rapper
Mai-Visual, Lead Rapper
Saebi-Maknae, Center, Sub Rapper
Honorable Mentions: Jeemin/Sarang/Juwon
Why is Mai there.. (no hate)
sorry but mai never rap in iland
Sujung is missing
@@aellnao Mai is not as bad as you think, all girls want center lines, but has Mai ever performed with them?No. I think she is talented and would shine if she were in the center, I hope that she will make her debut, but it is unlikely that this will happen
Yall don't gaf about talent ijbol
You’re so real for this
2:47 i also thought the same but maybe they think difference bc after the unit was revealed all the contestants were talking abt dance and vocal but no rap so idk
i think some of the girls already know they won't get to debut after the latest results
sadly, this is nothing new. i've been into kpop since 2009, i'm not a fangirl anymore (i'm 29 lmao), yet i keep watching survival shows like this (i like watching them idk) and everytime i end up being disappointed lmao. i still remember how disappointed i was with r u next's final lineup yikes??? visuals/favoritism are more important in the kpop industry than talent, that's a sad reality.
i liked mai and jeemin at first, but i saw little/almost no improvement in them. i was shocked when i read that jeemin's been a trainee for six years, yet her level is still, let me say, low for someone who's been training for that long. i still think that she has potential, but why is she improving so slowly for someone who trained for so long? her dancing is not great, her singing is bad. that's weird.
as for mai, at least she trained for less time (1 year and ? months idk)...but she still has to improve a LOT.
i agree with you about the final lineup, gyuri will literally be wonhee 2.0, no doubt. i hope jungeun (and jiyoon) will debut, i really like both of them.
mnet's shows will always be rigged, sigh.
I agree with gyuri being wonhee 2.0 based on visual and age preference for korean fans but based on talent I feel like gyuri is clearly superior so I wouldn't be mad if she debuted (even if she isn't in my top 6)
Just hope we get jungeun, jiyoon and fuko in the final lineup so the group can at least be decent at live singing
@@via4000 Gyuri has kept up well with the group despite her age. With Wonhee the only compliment I can really give her is that she has a lovely vocal color. Unfortunately R.U.N. successfully gaslit people into believing that she is stable live even though the girl straight up said that she couldn't sing live. But enough about that mess of a show, at the end of the day Gyuri while favored by Koreans for her visuals + age actually has the talent and skill to back it up. She's been serving vocals since After Like and I feel like not enough people talk about that.
@@confusedgrapes349 plus not to mention her other qualities, she's a decent dancer and has good stage presence (especially while performing songs like after like and like ooh aah)
Gyuri reminds me of wonhee a lot too lol, but she's more talented and she's in my top 6 ❤
Jeemins dancing being “not great” is a complete lie 💀
They make it so obvious who is going to debute with the screen time distribution and the story line given. Like we get it that they want Sarang to debute. They purposely treat some contestants like background characters. From the latest episode, I was so scared that jungeun might not debute because they kept giving her low score and low vote. Have to admit that during the latest vocal battle , it was one of her weakest performances, but she is still one of the best contestants in the show.
it wasn't a dance competition, but and acting / stage presence competition in this sense I can see why saebi ranked over sunjung. One little thing Ive notice is that being visuals girls taller then the other girls makes their dance look bigger / fuller.
Honestly I prefer saebi over jeemin as the visual / center role, but jeemin is already a guaranty pick due her popularity, so I dont think that getting mai or /and saebi too dont make sense in a smaller group, they need more skilled people to actually sell sound only music in the long run, but the styles of songs chosen are easy in vocal technique so yeah they can go to just for popularity too.
girl…i got chills when you predicted the debut lineup…and being hesitant about fuko…wth
Finally someone else thinks Gyuri did the best someone was fighting with me saying Sarang did better and if Gyuri is put in the lineup it’s gonna be another Wonhee💀
My top 6 with explanation
Jiyoon great vocalist
Jungeun also great vocalist and dancer
Gyuri stable vocalist the industry need stable vocals more than anything else especially this gen
Yuju main rapper material with Great flow and attractive tone
Jeemin a center with a great skills
Juwon dancer but she can sing she can save the group in the encore
Exactly! Why the hell does the rap unit has performance in it? Like we need to hear the rap. Idk about you, but when i heard both of them rapping for the "main dancer" part in lovesick girls. It was so fucking obvious who was better.
They knew koko was good with performance but isn't that good at rapping. That's why they chose koko to be in rap unit instead of dance (which she should've been in).
They also chose jeemin and saebi for the dance unit which is kinda dumb, like those two should have competed in the all rounder unit. They obviously don't have enough skills to compete sujung and juwon.
Honestly the girls that deserves debut are jeemin, saebi, mai, koko, jungeun. the REST is bullshit
1:19 exactly what i was thinking!
adding a dance choreography to the vocal unit would have been harmful for jiyoon, as the judges would be required to admit that jungeun's dance was better than jiyoon (not saying that jiyoon is a bad dancer) and consequently add points to jungeun's score (and maybe remove some from jiyoon's)
i hate mnet and their favoritism, everything is just planned to help their pick (like the rap/performance unit, picking parts by ranks and some contestant's scores that weren't deserved imo)
after I saw R U NEXT and iland2
at that point I just wanna watch a real survival show based on real talents not visual and face expressions with no favoritism…
Honestly the one where you pointed out that many ppl dislike or hate sujung just bcz of her opinion in an individual battle. I appreciate you for voicing it. Sujung is one of my favourites. But when she voiced her opinions about mai. Ik she did that wrong. But it's literally an individual battle. It's clear everyone wants to be better than others. She was not that bad. And after they added the clips of sujung comforting mai. I am thankful to the editors. We know she's not bad. She even helped the teams so much by her ideas, and whenthe judges blamed sujung for taking over the leadership, i lost my mind. Like she didn't do it on purpose. Koko couldn't do it so she just helped her. What's so wrong about it?. After she got eliminated, she accepted it and said good things about every one of them. She deserved better. I hope sujung debuts soon
I'm so sad for Yuju and Sujung. You know what happens to Sujung, she's such a good dancer and a good vocalist, I really like her but the treatment she got was horrendous. And with Yuju, she's such a good rapper come on! I hate that they've been putting her together with Koko and making her less talented than Koko. And don't get me started in jungeun who is such an all-rounder yet her position and debut is so unstable and we don't know if she will make it
I strongly agree with you ! The judges are so disappointing....
the same knetz voting and supporting for visuals over talents r the ones that r gonna be dragging these same girls when they inevitably struggle in encores and shit!! pls vote with ur brains and not mnets guys
watching the full ver and the ver with reactions of these performances feel like two different stages the bias is insane
i don’t get how juwon is given the same score as mai and even lower than saebi when i think she actually performs the second best (i think jeemin did her part well) IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE?? and honestly… i think the producers might have their favorites but i do think mnet played a big role on the editing part, hence some of the praises or even comments about other trainees not being aired, idk tho it’s just my opinion, bcs wdym they only commented on some of the trainees and praised them but not the other…
Its funny how we already know the lineup 😂 mai have a chance in that lineup as well but now they are finally showing interest in gyuri so its either mai or gyuri for that last spot others are jeemin , saebi, sarang, koko, jiyoon if this ain't the lineup i will be gagged by mnet
Looking at jungeun in this episode honestly felt like she was burnt out and mentally unstable ( like u can see her fidgeting with her fingers it was concerning to see a 16 year old that way) and i think that she lost alot of weight after coming to i land 2 I'm honestly concerned for her health at this point... Also the vocal unit honestly was neck to neck and i can see why jiyoon won but i don't think that jungeun deserves that score i mean the difference should have been of not mor than 3 points but... i just hope they're all well and healthy.
100% agree with your rank of 12 and your opinion. I didn't even watch the show (I just watched the performances online). I was shocked to hear what their final scores were. Favoritism is so blatant. I don't care to watch the final episode -- I'll just watch a recap and see final results. 😔
Jeemin will always be no.1 for me
is anyone else watching make mate 1? it’s a next survival show airing right now and it’s so good
im also not against like saebi and koko and sarang but like the things that mnet and producers grade them on is like what the heck but at this point i want some of them to just debut on their own and get the heck out of mnet
My ranking:
1. Koko
2. Jiyoon
3. Jungeun
4. Yuju
5. Jeemin
6. Sujung
7. Fuko
8. Juwon
9. Saebi
10. Gyuri
11. Sarang
12. Mai
my lineup: 1. jungeun 2. jiyoon 3. juwon 4. jeemin 5. saebi 6. mai (I'm thinking rather mai or koko for 6)
i’m so tired of ppl acting like gyuri is a talentless dozen, she carried 4 walls and still gets so much hate😭😭
they’re dancing cause it’s called rap PERFORMANCE unit. I think they thought it’d be boring if it was just a rap and no dancing cause in vocals you get better emotion but rap has so much energy that it feels like dancing (just my opinion)
okay I respect it! I was about to come for you bcus you commented something about me hating jiyoon, but I'm glad to see you edited that out!
@@celieistrying yes help i wrote That before i watched the entitet thing and then i realised i was too fast to judge so i edited it out sorry 😭
No Jungeun this group will be another Kepler for me
6:00 THAT'S LITERALLY MY TOP 6 WDYM
1. Jungeun
2. Sujung
3. Jiyoon
4. Fuko
5. Gyuri
6. Yuju
This has got to be one of the worst handling survival shows in history. I’ve even stopped watching it myself.. Yui and Lingling was literally gonna save this svs and they just eliminated her…. And they gave them soo much hope. All of it is red flags. I won’t even get my hopes up anymore
justice for yui and lingling fr!!
Okay I'll share my opinions too (let me know what you think)
IF I WERE A BOY TEAM (JIYOON AND JUNGEUN)
1. I am so happy that Jungeun and Jiyoon finally apologized and honestly I wouldn't expect Jiyoon to apologize first but I'm glad she did since she is an Unnie and Jungeun was too shy to go up to her firstly
2. Seeing Jiyoon struggling and Jungeun helping her was really good and funny, I'm so glad the she managed to hit the note that wasn't in her vocal range
3. The performance was lit, the vocals were amazing and I'm so happy for both of them
4. Their voices mix very well, my ears were blessed while hearing them singing istg
5. I think this performance helped them not only to be friends again but also to improve their weeknesses (Jungeun improved her singing with adding some emotions and Jiyoon managed to hit an higher note than her usual)
6. I'm so happy that Jiyoon ranked 3rd but I'm very sad for Jungeun, she deserved way better, i think they both shined in their own way
SPICY TEAM (KOKO AND YUJU)
1. They were so funny togheter! I really liked watching their funny moments!
2. I think the internim check was good but the producers praised it so much because the other teams were not as good as them
3. The producers are sleeping on Yuju, she was so good but since Koko got the 1st part she shined less than her
4. Koko was really good. I'm not korean but I can hear the improvement on her pronounciation
5. I don't know why they also had to dance as well
6. I definitely felt energy on the stage, the girls shined
4 WALLS TEAM (FUKO, GYURI AND SARANG)
1. First, this is an all-rounder performance, and this song only requires good vocals, some stage presence and decent dance... but where's the rap? the producers need to understand that this isn't all rounder if there's not the rap!
2. It's always the 3 of them performing the soft songs (like la vie en rose)
3. Fuko was good but nothing more, i think i already know hoow good she is that she can't surprise me anymore lmao
4. Gyuri was actually really good, i enjoyed a lot her vocals, a lot of praises to her (and she is also gorgeous lol)
5. Okay...guys don't hate me but...I think that Sarang is overrated. I mean, she did a mistake, it's okay, that happens, but it happens too often. And the producer don't notice it, but keep praising heer. She has good vocals, she dances good and she is also pretty but i think she is too tired now (I need the Sarang of the mic drop x sugarcoat)
6. Overall, the performance was okay
MONEY TEAM (JEEMIN, SAEBI, MAI, SUJUNG AND JUWON)
1. Okay...Jeemin was the best. I really like that she is versatile and she can pull off almost every concept. Yeah, I know that she got the center position and we all knew she would stand out but hey, she did it and she was gorgeous. I have nothing more to say!
2. the freaking producers are sleeping on Juwon!!!!!! Y'all she is so talented and always catches my eyes, but she never gets noticed by the producers. I'm so sad she was eliminated, she is our main dancer!!!!
3. Saebi...There's a lot to say about her. I do think that Lee Jung was right, she only focused on being charming and pretty but she worked on that and her performance was decent. But I still don't think that she was better than Juwon or Sujung and also, why they would put Saebi in this performance team?!
4. I'm really sorry but I can't understand why you all like Mai that much. Her dancing isn't that good and i'm not a big fan of her facial expressions, but obiouvsly the producers keep picking her for the highest spots. Idk whyyyy, sorry Mai (I'm not hating her, she is a good girl but maybe she is not ready to be a kpop idol yet?)
5. Sujung, my little bean, she was sooooo good! Her dance is always very powerful but again, she is underrated and she got eliminated with Juwon (I'll miss her so much)
6. Overall, this seemed like a Jeemin and her back up dancer performance: it was good but not perfect
OVERALL PERSONAL RANKINGS IN MY OPINION ONLY AFTER THIS EPISODE (NO HATE):
1. Jiyoon
2. Jeemin
3. Saebi
4. Fuko
5. Jungeun
6. Koko
7. Gyuri
8. Juwon
9. Yuju
10. Sujung
11. Sarang
12. Mai
Disclaimer: this is not only based on the 9th episode, but i also considered the previous episodes and how much i am connected to the different girls!
This was long, but thanks and let me know what you think!
I looove that lineup
my dream lineup (based on talent, not idol star quality (this is soo weird) )
1. Sujung- she is the best dancer, leader and have stable vocals
2. Jungeun- whe need a main vocal pls
3. Gyuri- cute maknae with stable vocals and dance
4. Yuju- the main rapper
5. Jiyoon- main vocal 2.0
6. Fuko or Juwon- these 2 have they talent and deserve debut
+ Jeemin- she dont have a standard talent but if she dont debut all go crazy
the favouritism towards to sarang is killing me, i was support her but i don't want to see her debuting anymore just because of this favouritism cuz she'll be likely debuting as an PD choice exc in the end and it's not fun
they definitely don't want yuju in the line-up, which is why they're pushing koko as a rapper to prove that the debut group can already have a member that can rap without yuju. even someone who knows nothing about k-pop could take one look at their outfits and tell who the favourite is.
Tf was that ugly fit that stylist most likely forced to do so by mnet to make her look like a backup dancer
I think yuju is a great performer but I honestly dont see the hype with her rapping but that could just be me. Like the lovesick girl performance was mid for her. Koko did better with the rapping and dancing together. Most rappers in kpop groups are strong dancers. Unfortunately yuju is still a mid dancer. Im happy that koko debuted and will probably be the rapper and main dancer. It suits her well.
It is so obvious that suddenly the songs and performance are kept on favoring in Jeemin and suddenly she is shining because 70% of screen time is on her. Also, I find I-Mate unfair mainly because most of them are there to see and cheer for Jeemin and Koko, while the others with less fans but better talent are hidden under the stone, which affect other rankings badly. The advantage of higher ranks is also suspicious, because the others only have 2 members, so why is it necessary? Another, when Sarang voice cracked in her 2 performance it's called improvement because she's nervious. But when it comes to Jungeon they always said, "I expect a lot more."
Discrediting koko will not give you peace. No matter how someone trained long but matter is when she can put the effort in stage. For me koko deserved the fcking victory and this is why she's p01 , stay mad on Koko she's a main rapper and main dancer as well. No one will care who's technically better cuz in stage koko seems to be good and captivating than yuju then you guys will say she got lots of lines , yes cuz she's a center this is why . Remember yuju took main dancer position on lsg performance but even didn't stand out cuz she can't pull stage as koko where koko got least line but i won't deny she's a great rapper/ dancer
FINALLY A CHANNEL WHO HAVE THE SAME OPINION AS ME
Girl i love your so much i mean so much YOU ARE SO BRAVE FOR SPEAKING ALL THIS FACTS LOUD!!! bow down to your braveness, and thanks a lot for understanding my baby yuju and sujung!!!!!!
1:18 OMGGG THE MOST TREU THING I SEE IT TODAY ! 😂😂 I LITERALLY HAPPY TO SEE SOMEONE LIKE MY BRAIN !
omg agree with everything! worst of all is that the audience that is voting for them is the same audience who constantly hates on recent gen Kpop saying they only focus on debuting visual not talent...as if they weren't the ones voting for the visuals themselves💀. also I know I will get hate but jee min has no reason to be ranked so high. she's talented yes, but there are A LOT of contestants way better than her. better dancing, raping and specially singing. im voting for jungeon since the begging, my top three are jungeun, jiyoon and fuko.
i agree with your no.3 opinion
because why a rap performance have dance part???😭
i think mai is weakest dance in money than saebi...
I have a strong feeling that Mai will be choosen as a producers pick atlast !!!!
YK there always a controversial pick in a survival show and this time it can be mai
Ik she been Falling apart in part 2 but let's all be real
She was clearly shown as a great trainee with good nature and a positive thinking by which it will make people to let her in the group
Later they pushed her portraying as a very understanding and sacrificing person during the ( see-saw game ) where she gave up on whitsle for YUJU !!!! Thats a clear stunt to show her as a good contributing person for this line up
This was not enough that later they pushed her as a very creative , manageable person who has a great sense of imagination and creativity over that they gave her as a great leader role to show us all that how great person Mai is and she can be a great leader too ( during the unit battle creative ep this was not enough that , that Judge 24 just randomly praised Mai that she is doing good in back ( that's a clear thing to say that they wanted us to believe Mai did better than yuju and she was quiet memorable while YUJU was so forgettable and got unnoticed unlike mai )
Then there was lee jung who named her as impact princess!!!!
And in part 2 in ep 9 like lmao Mai was being so rough and lazy during the practice time
And lee jung PLAYED AS A ' POLITE LEADER FOR HER ". While they are YUJU alive during love sick girls practice check
Even Monika was there too !! Like two grown ass women eating a 16 year old girl 🤡🤡 bcs she was not doing the way they want her to do
While they are being angelic towards Mai
This is clearly favouritism to me
YK half of the producer's love her
!!! Like for being pretty and idk some impact ( which I don't feel ) but umm they do !!!
They loved mai from day 1
Like in drama part when she did that Karina rap part "ZIGI ZIGI"
She lowkey sound like tone deaf ( like fr it was her worst perfomance imo )
After the perfomance ended I was so ready to see
Mai being bashed by the judges
But they say they were enchanted???? 🤡Like tf ??? Girl imagine you are hearing that "ZIGI ZIGI MAI PART THROUGH A EAR PIECE ALL OF A SUDDEN AND ITS IN THE STARTING OF THE SONG" how they managed to listen it ???? Girll
Monika said she was enchanted by Mai tough energy in BEGINNING
LIKE GIRL YOU ARE ENCHANTED BY HER SOUNDING TONE DEAF ??? 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
AND THE MOMENT THEY WERE CALLED LEE JUNG JUST DROOLED OVER MAI VISUAL SAYING SHE HAS A TRENDY FACE AND ALL !!
BY THAT ONE STATEMENT I WAS SURE PRETTY PRIVILEGE GONNA HAPPEN FR 😍
And you can see how much producers even love her bcs they didn't showed us the clip where she was actually being criticised ( as she should be ) by taeyung but the producer's didn't show that bcs that can show her as a weak contestant from the begining of the show which can make it very hard for the producers to push her harder in further episode to be in the final line up!!!
Atlast
I wanna say mai is deserving
She is really talented and has a good mindset it's not her fault she is being favoured but
This favouritism is wild assf and so fking noticable
Well she is one of my pick
And I love her
And this judges ughh will kick them in their ass !! If this favouritism like this continues ( except taeyung ) bcs he is the most genuine one their it seems and that girl vvn too like she is just basic judge and i don't have alot issue about her