Installing Focal P60 Speakers in My 992 GT3 Touring
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2023
- Just doing what do I do best: take a perfectly stock car and tear it apart. This is a pretty sweet plug and play kit, so up next will be the amplifier and wiring.
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Matt's business model is pure Genius he gets to live out his dreams and get a tax break while he's at it!
"It's somewhere around six thousand dollars, I think." spoken in true Matt fashion. 😂
Matt is the kind of guy that spends $10K to listen to the Eras Tour better 😁
Dream spec Porsche + a Focal stereo?! YES PLEASE! 😍
Mike's camera work is the real star of this video!
Oddly I agree. Satisfying to watch
Definitely a cool plug and play set from focal…. But at that price point and higher I’m definitely just sending my car to vanguard automotive design/resonix/skiz some of the best high end audio car audio installers
Matt is the real deal. He‘s hands on, willing to take the challenge. Props brother! 👍😎💪
Awesome set up. I love my focal set up in truck with amplifier, dsp, and subwoofer.
The box is awesome! keep it
yeah you couldn't pay me to take apart my brand new GT3 Touring. I highly doubt you pump the tunes when you drive this car, lol.
He has said in the past that the car and garage despite not being the environments for music is where he listens to the most music
Matt does great work and I sure do love Focal
Helix is top-notch stuff. I have their 6-channel DSP amp. Tuned with a mic. Great equipment.
That packaging, wow
Loved the full video, great info. I would have liked to hear the factory setup with the Focal speakers…
That interior is beautiful.
I think so too.
That was fun. Cool video. At least id give that project a try after watching video. Thank you.
Mike put his glasses on at the end, that little triangle door trim will be in place 15 min after the end of the video :D
Mint! I’m curious of what your thoughts are on the difference of just the speakers and also what the new amp brought, enjoy! 👍🏻🔈
Really like the plug and play system
No roller for the sound deadening application? Glad you didn’t scratch anything with the metal pry tool. This video reminds me of the audio system Matt did on the blue GT3 I don’t think Matt would do that much again.
Yeah, I can't understand why the pry tool is not plastic. Looks like it chewed up the tweeter recess slightly.
@@herbpantaleon7485 I noticed that but he mentioned something about depth and how the tweeter would set. An my intent wasn’t to criticize or anything of the sort, many times Matt has alluded to his willingness to be the tester and take the bumps that come with doing so, I appreciate that. Some measurements ( on the sound levels before and after would be nice but I understand the relativity of it) but it is a trust thing I like more bass feel than Matt I have come realize ( I am also half his age if that so it makes sense) but totally agree on highs and mids.
Would LOVE to have a guy like this in the Munich area. I have a 991.2 Turbo with the shitty Bose system. I would do a similar upgrade if we had people here. It would be even better if the dealer would offer this as an upgrade option.
Nice job man!
@Sailingbill1 , you could upgrade yourself by just buying the components and saving a ton (a Focal Utopia 3-way component set is a hell of a lot cheaper than $6k, and for less, you can get better than Focal).... and if you just wanted a cheaper upgrade, you could hit Suncoast Porsche and start buying Burmester factory components that weren't specd on your 991.2 and pop them in place of the trash Bose.... anything is better than Bose 😅
Never in a million years would I have pictured Matty wearing western style jeans. 🤯😃
Great tutorial.
Matt, I’m surprised the GT touring did not come with the Burmeister. But you are a man with steel as very few people will attempt this.
I may just get a 911 Targa GTS with the Burmester Audio... there seems to be more used options out there with a manual, the AWD, and the stereo. I really wanted a GT3 though. Ha.
Matts next Pcar.. Turbo S. Plenty of options for interiors and Burmeister with performance of GT3 and then some. Exhaust sound will be sub par.
HI Matt. Great video. Do you have the part number of that amplifier harness? Thanks!!!
Roll the window down....then that pillar piece will snap back into place better.
about time Matt 😁 Helix DSP/amp combo is amazing bit of kit you will be impressed.
Once you go Focal, you’ll never go back.
Matt I think a DAP review is in order I Know Astell & Kern is the go to but would really appreciate if you compared a few and gave your opinion.
For sure keep that box, and put the OEM stuff inside for storage.
Wondering does installing acoustic mats in the door panels kill the amount of engine sound you hear inside the car? And is installing acoustic mats make a huge a diff to the sound coming out of the speakers?
Absolutely save the box
Real Man Rolex is really coming together.
I hope that soundskins holds up for ya. Not sure why so many shops use it when there’s so many records of it failing miserably
You are brave disassembling the Porsche....
Some day in the distant future, some collector is going to knock on the doors of this car looking for bondo and think it is absolutely full of it! hahaha
I can't see that happening.
Is there any value doing Focal + Bose, or does it achieve the same results by doing Focal alone?
You don't want to mix them. All of one or the other.
I have the base system in my 992 gt3 and it’s such garbage. Have thought about upgrading but sound insulation in this car makes it very loud as is. Let us know how this setup works out!
Did you end up doing the amps? Is it worth it? I'm about to have this and a sub installed in my 23 992.
I haven't put it in yet, but it's on the docket.
Nice setup, surprised you did, go Dunedin.
What is Dunedin?
😅😂 I think you meant Dundon, probably autocorrect but he did use that exhaust.
E92 m3 with standard hifi is definitely crying in the corner 🤣
you didnt mention the reason why you are going to disconnect the center channel. Im a simpleton when it comes to audio so I just think more is better right, plus its included in the kit so the people who create these things reccomend it. But I guess it maybe has something to do with tuning the system, where you define low-pass, hi-pass, time delays, etc. and this center channel just makes it more complicated to tune for what little effect it would give in the end? or is there something else?
Stereo imaging is the reason. We have an available channel in the DSP and amp, but when Matt Schafer tested the system in his last install, he ended up turning off the center channel. It's a real pain get the clock out, so he suggested I not mess with it since it doesn't add to sound stage.
What is the reasoning behind disconnecting the center speaker rather than replacing it with the focal one?
My guess is with the center speaker in the mix there is just to much sound bouncing around and it could muddy up the good side 3 way system. Kinda more is not better
Choosing the Milwaukee scissors over the ARS?
Very random but have you ever looked at Linus Tech Tips and his screwdriver? I feel like that would be a great tool for these projects. I am sure you have one similar but just an idea. Love the channel!!!
Yeah. I don't think it's the one for me.
Where did you source the harness cable btw?
Matt Schafer
Curious why you are passing on the center channel. Does it involve total disassembly of the dash?
Matt Schafer did an install recently and found it to detract from the front stage. He ended up turning it off, so he suggested I not risk taking the clock out.
@@ObsessedGarage Gotcha. Makes sense.
That is still a bargain compared to the Honda Civic sound system upgrade that was I think around 20 + grand
are they kevlar the new ones, instead of paper?
They have a glass and foam composite cone with a beryllium dome on the tweeters.
There's a there's a world-class tile installer in Clearwater Florida
Has the amplifier upgrade part been posted yet...can't find it but maybe I've missed it.
Not yet.
@ObsessedGarage How does it sound relative to stock with just the speakers changed?
Matt...the suspense is killing me already man...was it any better just changing the speakers?
Yes...it is better, but certainly not $6000 better with the stock amp.
You didn’t show the center channel install? How do you remove the cover there?
I’m not doing the center. It’s a big, risky job to remove it. We don’t want the center anyway. Matt Schafer tested with and without and ended up defeating the center.
@@ObsessedGarage I ended up doing it just now, and yeah, it's the biggest pain in the arse ... but doable. The Helix he tuned likely isn't using the CC, or just as fill I assume. If one is just replacing the speakers though (and not the amp), I think you have to replace the center as 1) the Bose tune puts a lot of emphasis on the CC, and 2) the Bose speakers are much more efficient so if you leave the CC it sounds louder and overpowers the side midranges IMO.
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Should have used a sound deadening roller and apply heat to sheet before and after applying it sticks better. There's a chance they may start peeling off.
its fine
@BarbWaltersMusic depends how sticky the butyl is.
MURAD form Toronto 🇨🇦👋👌🤘🏻
I thought I remember this guy claiming Focal's were "too bright"
They are.
My anxiety seeing the metal panel popper was thru the roof
6k not using center channel.. 😅
Why don’t you like Focal? They’re solid speakers?
Beryllium is super bright and thin sounding to me.
Question to the Focal fans have you tried Morel in real life? Not judging just curious?
Yes, I have Morel softdome in my E36. I like it a lot more.
Wouldn’t touch an interior like that in case it causes rattles etc. in the future.
It kinda come with the territory more vibrations (sound waves, more air movement) more rattle but you try to mitigate it, it can be done though
Normally I would agree, but in my experience taking apart Porsches, that isn't an issue.
Bose! HAHAHAHAHA
Dang those are some nice jeans
Janky window trim piece that’s loose after install. That would bother me.
Yeah.. I've got to figure that out. I might have to get a new piece to replace it.
@@ObsessedGarage I think I had a similar issue with my 718 Cayman
Mike fixed it. I had the reflector in wrong.
We all need a Mike F. in our lives. Such a great addition to OG. It’s the Matt and Mike dynamic for me.
@@ObsessedGarage Thank goodness I found this comment, my OCD was running wild.
Why not a Focal fan? Lol
Too bright
@ObsessedGarage they are definitely on the bright side. I just got some Focal floorstanders for my home and I'm already thinking about getting a powered sub.
Porsche tax lol jesus
Why does Matt charge 3 days labour when you can do it in a day and you never do this kind of work? Matt should be twice as fast since he’s done a ton of them. $5k install seems extremely excessive.
That's for Amp install and tuning. I only did the speakers.
$9500 and all that work, still not as good as the stock Burmester for just slightly more than half the cost. Porsche what are you thinking not offering it for the GT3? Look at what Matt had to go through!
For $6k I’d go to musicar for their stage 3 system
I think Matty just wants to try this set-up. For the peoples.
How can you be happy to pay 6k for some speakers but then cheap out and shill for sonic tools
Because Sonic tools are really good for their price…look up some tool tests, a lot of their tools perform better than Snap On etc etc for a fraction of the cost
@@jonengelbird7051 Don't take the bait. Sounds like a butthurt Snap-On guy who got his feelings hurt.
I’m actually not a fan of snap on, their only stand out products are their ratcheting wrenches and specialty tools.
Koken socketry, nepros ratchets, vessel screwdrivers, knipex pliers are all better options than sonic
@@180jp4 Are you paying attention? Matt is buying up all brands of tools to tryout. He just started with Sonic. If you're settling a trap, I just bit. Wtf do you care what tools Matt is using? This video is about some audio and you're soapboxing about handtools.
It's not about the price. It's about the quality.
Speaker system $6,000. Speaker box $1,000.