3 Uses of Hydrogen Peroxide for Starting Seeds Indoors: Fungus Gnats, Molds, Fungi, & Germination
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- All the recipes for using hydrogen peroxide indoors for you seed starts and transplants. These are my modified ratios and recipes for 2023.
Initial Soil Drench for Sterilizing & Germination
Soil Drench: 4 parts water and 1 part hydrogen peroxide
Managing Molds and Fungi
Spray: 6 parts water and 1 part hydrogen peroxide
Soil Drench: (maintaining health) 5 parts water and 1 part H202
Fungus Gnat Infestation
Spray: 4 parts water and 1 part hydrogen peroxide
Soil Drench: 3 parts water and 1 part H202
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I was gifted a beautiful Hibiscus plant that was full of gnats...I mean full! I used a 4:1 once a week for 4 weeks and it worked wonders!
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This is my second year gardening. I've learned so much but still have a ways to go. I will be trying this method to get rid of the fungus gnats that have taken over my seedlings. I've tried Neem oil too but hydrogen peroxide seems much safer for my seedlings. Thank you so much for this video!
Thank you Gary. I'm a Master Gardener and I still have a lot of questions! Love this
H202 works well!
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Oh my gosh! I really needed this video. My husband and kids told me all my plants should go outside tonight because the gnats are so bothersome. I tried neem oil spray and they’re still flying everywhere. I’ll do the hydrogen peroxide soak tomorrow.👍
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Thanks Gary I will be trying this idea. I just purchased two large bottles of 3% peroxide and was going to give away one, but now I will be using one for my seedlings.
I really like it. It has so many uses.
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I started my seeds a few days ago and I added cinnamon. I didn’t know about this thank you 😊.
H202 is my favorite tool nowadays.
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I am a fan of sprinkling on ground =cinnamon on my seed srart trays. No fungus mites or other porblems.
You are awesome! Thanks for all the great tips this was so timely for seed starting.
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Thank you, I needed this video!
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When using the peroxide can you continue to use it for every time watering is needed until the infestation is gone? Also can you mix the peroxide with fertilizer?
Lovely plants 🪴
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My friend, thank you for good sharing 😊
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Good info! Thanks!
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On my vegetable plants that are not seedlings but a month old, the soil drench of 3 to 1 is what I need? Tomatoes, broccoli, cucumbers, etc.
Thanks to you I always put 1:37 boiling water into potting soil and cover the container; especially soil I am reusing
It make a difference
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Had to comment on your seed starting room. Mine is much worse than yours, not even counting the beer bottles, lol.
Made a commitment last year to keep the outside garden more clutter free, and for the most part it was a success!
Just bought some new lights for my new wire shelf system. Looked like a bomb hit the place, took me 10 minutes to find my pliers.
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Most of mix that has stuff growing in it, goes outside. Any unused stuff just sits in the house until I need it.
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Thanks for the Tip. Great gardening channel.
Thanks so much
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Can’t wait to try this! Thanks!
Test it out. It is good stuff.
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Thank you! Exactly what I needed. ❤️
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Thank you, Gary! Very helpful info!
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I did a drench for my plants and also added sticky butterfly shaped plant inserts (but put them just near the plants) to catch the adults and worked like a charm! Now I just keep one under my grow lights and no knats! Catches the adults if around.
Nice.
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I have very healthy fungus gnats in my houseplant jungle. I have only used sticky tabs which are pretty effective but not enough!! I will use the H2O2.
Also put sand on top of your house plants like 1 inch. It stops their life cycle.
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Gary, QUESTION: I would like to prepare seed starting mix and have it reserved for next season. I’ve used boiling water to sterilize the mix as you’ve showed us. Should I use the boiling water even if it’s going to sit for several weeks or can I cover it and let it sit - will the potential fungus gnat eggs die? I have a 35 gallon barrel with a top, I was gonna either soak the mix with boiling water or maybe just cover it. What do you recommend?
You dont need to use boil water again if it is sealed and sits some where safe. You kind of want it to dry in the house and they cover. Covering we mix makes mold and such.
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Hi is this Hydrogen Peroxide mix of use for aphids and white fly etc as the plants grow? Or only for seed raising.
I use it outdoors for fungus on tomatoes. Look up my hydrogen peroxide and tomato videos. You could use it outside.
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I have old seed starting mix and indoor potting mix from cells that didn't germinate or I never potted up, so they died. If I pour boiling water over it, do you think it would be ok to use for potting up seedlings? Especially if I add some slow release fertilizer and water with diluted fish emulsion?
Yep it will work perfectly well.
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Great info! Thank you!
Thanks for watching.
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Thank you. My last frost date is March 28th. When should I start my seeds indoors?
Look up a seed starting calculator, in particular johnny seeds. Nice table for veggies and flowers. UA-cam filters out addresses and stuff, but you can figure it out.
Lucky you! Ours is in May, and I'm chomping at the bit! I want to start too early every year lol!
I have a video on it. But with 8 weeks to go, you can start most things now. It just vary so much 4-12 weeks before last frost.
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Can the spray be used on microgreens that will be consumed? Thank you.
In theory yes. I would spray and wait a few days before harvesting.
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Thank you! I'm going to make some spray tomorrow I have a few seed starts with green mold on top of the soil. I wish I knew about this spray for indoor plants a few years ago. I might have been able to save my large collection of houseplants which became infested with gnats, nothing I tried eliminated them so I had to throw them out, some of those plants I had for 17 years.
It could be algae which is best managed by letting surface dry, that helps with fungi too. Good luck. Putting sand like an inch on your house plant soil stops their life cycle and that can help.
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@@THERUSTEDGARDEN Thank you, tried sand trick at that time. I must have had Terminator gnats-- I would think they were gone, then I'd here one say "I'm back."
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So, you put the starter mix in the bucket & add boiling water. How much boiling water, and then do you drain it, or let it all absorb?
Let it absorb. I put it in a pale and fill with hot water so it get full absorb. With practice there is no excess but if there is you can just let it dry a couple days.
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Getting Put on game again...Thanks Brotha 3% Hydrogen Peroxide gonna check out what i have at home and use it before it goes bad i do have green stuf on the top layer of my soil now know why its Algea from n8t drying off on top layer...
Does the hydrogen peroxide kill the beneficial michorhiza in the soil?
Inside you dont need soil life. Your transplants dont need it. Yes it will. Outdoors some spray will kill some but not enough to change the quality of your soil.
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Hi Gary. Been following you for a few years now. Question: Had a 1/2 5gal bucket of seed start mix sterilized with boiling water left over last year. Had lid on it & kept in basement. Still moist, no visible issues. Is it ok to use? Just getting going this w/end. Thanks.
It is fine to use if it stayed indoors.
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Thanks. I really needed this video, I swear it seems like they overwinter in my house! Anyways, what about my Aerogarden? Should I fill the tank with a the 3:1 mix? I have an outbreak, I’ve sprayed neem oil 2x’s so far. 🌸 Thanks!
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An Aerogarden is all water with an aerator, no soil.
Could you do a soil drench with seedlings growing in them? I think im having a prob with root rot just starting and want to kill it off.
Root rot is usually from lack of oxygen do to too much watering. But if you think it's not water related. Yes.
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Do the hydrogen peroxide sprays and drenches work well when the plants have been up-potted to potting soil and are still indoors under grow lights?
It should in theory. I dont use it often of that. Luckily by then the problem is mostly under control.
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Do you leave the 1/4 inch of water / H20 in the bottom and just leave it?
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im a seed collector, can you advice tips of how to store them and what to do if i collect one infected fungal seed on my storage area, is thier any solation like adding hydrogen peroxide wash before storing
You can probably just spray will quick with h202 but make sure its like on a plate so it dries fast.
Gary how do you dry out your peat moss for 6-12 months? Step by step please. Thanks in advance
Oh it just sits in a bind in my house with a loose lid. Nothing fancy.
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I had an issue with white mold ON THE STEMS of my tomato seedlings and had a total panic attack. Used your spray and it seems to have helped. Im gonna do the soil drench as soon as it dries…you think the seedlings will be ok?
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I have some fungus growing on my celery tray which just germinated. Can I still spay hydrogen peroxide solution without killing celery seedlings?
Probably so...just use the dilution chart
Yep at the 6:1 ratio works. Start with more dilute and concentrate more if needed.
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Can you use a clear sprayer or does it need to be in an opaque sprayer? Can you store the mix or make it everyday?
Dark is better but out of the sun, in house or cabinet, lets it last a while in a clear container.
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Gary for the first seeding H202 soil dredge do you let it fully absorb into the soil and dump excess or just let it sit until evaporated? I planted my peppers last night and used the mix at the same time, I hope I didn’t do something wrong by using the dredge at seeding time. The liquid was about a half inch in in the tray with the cells, I’m using medium cells i purchased from your shop, and this morning the liquid was fully evaporated and the soil is moist. Also, I’m hoping I won’t have to pot up but Im planting lots of peppers so the large cells wouldn’t work for me because of space restrictions.
Absorb and throw out excess.
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Can you do the Hydrogen Peroxide without doing the boiling water first? I have some mix from last year I boiled but didn't use, do I need to boil it again to be safe?
Treat it. It should be fine.
Once boiled and left inside it is fine.
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A lot of people have those seed starting trays with a wicking mat and reservoir of water underneath. Do you think those lead to overly wet soil? If you use those then I wonder if the soil ever has a chance to dry out.
I dont really use them. I like a drying period so I think there is a risk of it being too saturated. Many larger transplants dont mind as they use a lot of water. But early on it might not be liked.
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I microwave the soil mix right after I hydrate it with boiling water. The steam and microwave will nuke everything.
Super effective.
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I've started sterilizing potting mix in the oven but have not used the microwave, which seems like a really good idea. I battled fungus gnats for over a year and am finally free and clear of them for a couple of months now. Am almost afraid to start seedlings inside the house 😁. Just need to take some new precautions and keep my fingers crossed.
I have been seeing algae and white fungus but no ghats. Should I go ahead and treat aggressively?
Yes
Those arent always bad. Let the surface of you soil dry between waterings and let it stay dry 1-2 days after that. I would spray the surface for sure. And aggressive treatment wont hurt but it might not be needed.
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Thank you! I added boiling water to my soil before I started my seeds but I must have not done it correctly because I now have fungus gnats. 🥴 I've only seen one or two everyday should I treat aggressively?
I would treat. You have time so test out the ratios first and wait 48 hours. It's good practice to test new mixes and ratios, even if it works for me.
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A week ago I placed a couple of sweet potatoes in moist potting soil on a heat mat to promote slips. I want to keep the soil moist but not wet but now discovering some white mold(?) forming on the soil surface. I lightly sprayed HP/H2O mixture this morning hoping to eliminate this growth and not impede slip formation. Any other recommendation?
That should do it! Dont keep it too wet! Warmth is key. Moisture can be overdone easily.
That should help. You can spray it more often too. Sweet potatoes sometimes rot, if you notice that, cut the piece that is root off and spray wound.
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Yep. Thanks
I had no fungus gnats in my seed starting area until I bought some bare root plants from walmart. I potted them up and put them under the grow lights near where my seedlings are. Big mistake! But it sounds like I could've soaked the bare roots in a h2o2 solution and prevented that?
Yep that happens too. Sadly.
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Hey Gary, I was wondering can I start my tomatoes,peppers, and eggplants together? Or will they not germinate relative together, I have a heat mat. Please get back with me.
They are good to do together. Tomatoes will pop first
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@@THERUSTEDGARDEN how long can I keep the heat mat on the seedlings, how long do I keep the humidity dome over them sense they will sprout at different times, and how far does the grow light need to be from the seedlings?
hey gary. i need to catch up on ur latest videos!! missed out on a lot. any tips on getting rid of grubs in the soil. i was thinking beneficial nematodes. any experience or tips? they killed all my fall seedlings in 2022. i was so upset
I havent used beneficials a lot. All grubs arent bad. I have done a neem oil drench a couple times and that seemed to help with wire worms
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Gary, would this work for aphids? I have a raised bed in my greenhouse and have battled aphids in there for three last two years
I would try it. Test spray. Soft bodied insects are impacted by h2o2. But it's not a guarantee.
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Gary, slightly off topic question. I will be expanding my container garden this year, mostly using grow bags, but some earth boxes. As far as medium, I've tended to just throw in Miracle Grow Potting mix. Everybody and their cousin seems to have a version of their own potting mix recipe and one of the main benefits that is mention is price. What I never see is though is mentioning that the diy potting mix does not by default come with the fertilizer that is included with Miracle Grow. The slow release fertilizer that it includes is supposed to last up to 6 months. Once you start adding the fertilizer/admendments needed to the DIY potting mixes, are you actually saving that much money? With DIY I know it gives you more control over what and how much is in the soil for the plants, but even if you have to tweak the Miracle Grow (or other pre fertilized mix) you are starting from an already establish base level of npk for 6 months that you would otherwise have to provide from other sources for the DIY mix. What are your thoughts on this? I know there are other benefits, but I'm curious as to this part of the equasion and completely avoiding the organic vs chemical debate right now.
It is just expensive by the bag and the MG fertilizer works but it is low. It feeds, but feeds what, most likely flowers and not the more demanding vegetables. I treat bagged products that have fertilizer, as if they dont. So it doesnt save me money. Making it is a huge money saver. While you are at HD buy a bail of peat, and cheap bags of topsoil and mix them 50/50. That works well to and amend as you wish with compost and fertilizer. Good luck.
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@@THERUSTEDGARDEN Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I guess I just need to sit down and actually do the math. It just always seemed that the DIY mixs "start" with Peat/coco coir/Pearlite/Vermiculite etc..but... then when it's time to actually plant it's "add some bone meal, add some lime, add some worm castings, add some epsom salts, add some rock phosphate, and .. and.. and.. then add these 3 things every two weeks, etc. etc. so started to wonder if in the end something like the MG bypassed the majority of that and all that was left was add a thing or two during the rest of the growing season to either top off npk, or address an individual need. Again I greatly apreciate you replying and I am slowing working through all your videos.
@@nathanielsaville3361 I always think about that too. By the time you add this, this and that, could I have just bought some bagged soil?🤷🏽♀️
@@carleanr4051 I think it's a trade off between time, money and scale. I sat down and looked at what I had available to me from the various stores and started working out the math. There is no doubt that it is less expensive to make your own, but there is a trade off particularly if you are doing small scale or modest container gardening. To mix your own, particularly to match some of the most common ratios/recipes you end up buying certain things in bulk which inflates your starting cost. At the smaller scale, just buying the premixs can end up being a lesser expendeture (when you add time/tools/space) for that year. The cost savings (which aren't small) for the mix your own in bulk gets realized either at a larger scale, or over time. But space = storing the remainder of the bulk product somewhere till next year. Plus there is the cost of your time and labor. There is a differnce between just filling a container straight from a pre-mix bag and getting everything together to mix your own. To do your own requires space, plus things you don't think about like a tarp to mix it on, or a wheelbarrow, lots of buckets, etc. If you don't already own those things that is another up front cost, or replaced with time and effort, again, if you continue to use those things year after year the cost per year keeps getting smaller. So it's all a matter of investment. If you have the time/tools/space/initial up front cost etc.. You come out better as a return as it is realized over either a larger garden or split across multiple years of use/reuse. For a smaller garden/containers, and if time and space are precious, then going with a premix could have a smaller up front cost (when adjusting for time/tools/space) for that year, but if you repeat that year after year in the long run you are absolutely spending more overall. I figured out that I'm at a scale that crosses the overlap between the two for me. I will be mixing my own/but not completely. I've found a relatively economical premixed potting mix that seems to be a very good quality and I am ammeding it with Cow Compost at a 2-1 ratio. 2cuft mix, 1cuft Compost. I need 18 total cuft for my containers. If I went with a name brand premixed I'd need 12 bags and it would be about $12 per cuft. With the mix I am doing to get a total of 18cuft it will cost me about $6.30 per cuft, so almost half. But I have the time and space to mix and store working with 18cuft of material, I also already have on hand fertilzer to make up for what would have been already in the premix, not that buying it new would add that much spread over 18cuft. But heres the thing, if I were only doing say 6cuft, the price per cuft would remain the same for each, but I'd end up buying $72 worth of premix vs. $57 worth of the build my own and have 3cuft left of material that I would need to store etc. So $15 dollars savings for the year, but I have to spend time, tools, space to mix, and store + small additional cost to match ferts in the bagged premix. At small scale, not a bad trade off, as the scale increases though, it rapidly becomes harder to justify inital cost.
How long is h2o2 last in bottle
WOULD BOILING WATER KILL THE SOIL BIOLOGY ?
It does for starting mix. Soil biology is not needed for seed starting. The plants get all the great stuff once planted.
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I cant as I just never did hydroponics so I would be able to teach well.
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So annoyed that I didn’t watch this two weeks ago. I kept waiting for my tips to dry out to pour the peroxide solution from the top🤦♀️ We had a warm up in November right before Thanksgiving in DE. We had our floors done and the guys left the front door open. We didn’t notice until the left that one of the room they were in had the window open with no screen and with the light in we noticed 100’s of gnats that I am still trying to get rid of. I’m finally seeing a few here and there but what a pain🤦♀️ I went in panic mode when I was starting my herbs and onions with worry they would all come back😂🤦♀️🤔🤨
Thank you for this. I've been battling fungus gnats for the past few weeks. Do you know if this solution would hurt composting worms? I've got a very small tub set up indoors. I've seen the fungus gnats when I go to feed them. Digging down into the bedding, I don't know if they are juvenile gnats or mites, but I'd like to try this one them.
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H202 will kill microbes and impact worms. You dont need soil life indoors for starts. In a composter it would impact the worms and soil life. Spraying the surface wont, but a drench will.
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It would as a drench.
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You will not seen fungus gnat larva in your worm bins unless you have eagle eyes. Do you have any flying insect get liberated when you disturb your worm bin? There are many visible arthropods that will inhabit your worm bins, they are beneficial.
I would not add hydrogen peroxide to my worm bin.
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I have 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide what mix should I use please
I dont know but I am using 3%. So you have to cut it down to that.
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Could you just put the starting mix in microwave for 5 min to kill any fungus Nat larva?
In theory yes but be careful with heat and burning peat.
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Doesn't h2o2 become h2o over time? One needs to check that the h202 is still good?
Yep. That is why it disinfects in part. H202 breaks to h20 an O and it cleans. I have had bottles sit for years and it stays good. You can actually take a small sip and if it bubbles you're good. Or put a drop on the soil and it will bubble. Once mixed, I use it right away as a drench. My spray bottle is opaque and it stays stable in there too btw.
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good to know. Does it also kill aphids?
It does kill soft bodied young insects. It will certainly knock them back.
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What if I have true leaves that are turning brown?
Brown usually means roots are dying. Not sure what to do without seeing the whole process. Could be light are too close.
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Could you just use the Hp at the same time you are using the boiling water when you are initially trying to kill any eggs?
Yes you could for strictly fungus gnat eggs. The extra oxygen does help with speeding up germination a the seeds should be present for that.
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I’ve got my pen and paper ready whenever I get a notification from you. Always great information. I’m grateful for you!💚🪴
Thanks so much
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If I wait to start my seed exacly 5 weeks before my last frost date I can usually get my starts outside before any problems are incubated... 🥧
That works.
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The easiest way to not bring in bugs is to not bring anything from the outside, to your indoor garden.
Very true.
Peroxide isn't actually GOOD for cuts. Use iodine.
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Too much repetition. Just explain what you did
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