It's not just Bollywood, you just need to read the comments under some posts by "normal" Indians. It's like parents have stopped teaching their kids how to respect other humans.
Respect is earned... It's not your 90's or 2000's behen 😂 you can't expect to get respect by doing nothing or bare minimum, just because you're a WOMAN 😂
@@arpan9937 yes, shift all the blame onto the westerners. No fault of the poor innocent Indians. I guess it's also their fault for India's scam centres. After all it was the idea of the westerners to open call centers in India in the first place. Before westernisation sub India mein doud ke dulhe they. 🙄
While films are a mirror to society, the damage that Bollywood films have inflicted on the position and life of women in real life is enormous, especially in the low-education sections, where you will still find people following the same narrative of sati savitri aurat and ijjat etc while treating women like scum. So happy that discussions like this are now happening and so happy to see this video on your channel.
It's the same everywhere. Hollywood me dekho, they are virtually-castrating their male characters and ruining legacy studios, in the name of "empowerment". A feminine but strong woman is what most people like seeing. I hope we don't copy the west into bringing that batshit crazy genre into India.
As a woman, i am thankful to you for educating your audience. Its interesting how Indian cinema went from progressive and ahead of their times to PANDERING TO THE ILLITERATE MALE AUDIENCE...and that slowly becoming a norm for modern Bollywood even though the country has changed a lot since then
@@rohankashyap4016 vo gali aur ashleel bate nahi karti BB aur carry jaise, kyuki log unhe slut shame karenge aur indian audience ko kachra hi dekhna pasand h tabhi carry k itne views hote h
Have you seen Sofia Ansari, Poonam and hundred more creators like this who show body and earn . Girls themselves becoming object and criticising others for objectifying them
Sandeep R Vanga is compared to Tarantino to justify the violence. But the thing is Tarantino has made films with well written characters and that includes female characters as well.
rockstar mai he's pretty deranged waise bhi. also animal mai jyada kuch nahi bas violence hai halka sa, baaki bas gun chala raha hai. aur cheating part toh usse suit karta hai so 🤷🏾♀️
I am a big fan of Lara Dutta even today. She is the miss universe, the bollywood doesn't give her roles, but for me, she is definitely one of the greatest female actors. Also, Vidya Balan is an actor who didn't make age a barrier for herself, she needs appreciation for her.
@hassanabdullah2425 Her glamour cant be matched again. Only Harnaaz Sandhu has the ability to replace her but then she is into punjabi cinema and not Bollywood.
And then there was oscar winner director Satyajit Ray, who throughout his film career spanning decades gave us films like Tin Kanya, Mahanagar, Debi and so on. He was way ahead in female potrayals, and could logially write and represent the thinking of women character beautifully.
Exactly there were no hero or heroine in his movies, they had characters be it male or female and they were well fleshed out. And anyways, old bengali movies had good female characters even if they were secondary
He also told that masses in india are backward audience as we can see how commercial films are so cheap and its so true if movies like jawan gadar 2 still are so hit shows majority of india is still backward and craves for cheap entertainment due to low socio economic status leading to more depressed lives hence more worship of heroism
Not just chandni and sadma but most of sridevi movies had strong women characters , be it chaalbaaz , Lamhe, nagina, Mr india, sherni, banjaran, gumraah (brilliant performance), laadla, judaai, english vinglish , mom and tons of south movies too. And i think that is why she became the first female superstar of INDIAN cinema (not alone bollywood) . Just like you made a video on Rajesh khanna , the first superstar. I would appreciate if u make a video on Sridevi as well on her journey of becoming 1st female superstar of country. Equality to yaha bhi honi chahiye na 😂.BTW a very well made video. loved it.
@@preetiraut7700 yess it was opposite amitabh bacchan that she played double role and shared climax with him, it was the only time amitabh bacchan shared climax with heroine.
I think sridevi ji is the only superstar who was ruling the Bollywood in that male dominated industry ...my mother told me that what a fan base sridevi ji had which any other male actor didn't have ....and we can see she has done mom, chandni,English vinglish. .and even in Mr india and chalbaaz she was doing comedy and her acting was best she overshadowed other..what a women she was❤
@@KryptonitePeter 90s too and when she did comback in 2017 with movie named mom and she when she did English vinglish too ...1997 when she did judaai movie ..her fans across India and other countries were sad that she is quitting movies after this ...no other star reached this kind of stardom till date be it srk and Salman...sridevi ji outshined every actor and actress😗
@@CG___2789 only in the 80s. 90s she gave huge flops 😂 1993 to 94 flops movies and 1996 she gave Army it’s another flop. Judaai was only hit because of Anil Kapoor not Sridevi.
@@KryptonitePeter judaai was only revolving around sridevi character kajal🤣till date people only know judaai movie as of sridevi movie not anil kapoor..😂..and people came to watch judaai as it was announced that It is going to be her last movie ...you can live in delusion...🤪
South Industry also suffers from this problem. The infamous scene of Pushpa. The stars of that industry being in romantic roles with 30 years younger female.Heck I don't even remember last time when I watched a women centric mainstream south film. Also did I mention Item songs? Don't get me started with their commercial "love"stories.I remember a south movie where I am not kidding the hero threatens the heroine of r*ping her if she doesn't fall for him and its shown in a comedic light.Many actresses of that industry have called out this sexism in their interviews.
@@vedantrusty आपका टॉपिक बहुत ही अच्छा होता है बॉलीवूड मे 90s के दशक मे बहुत ही अच्छे संगीत के लिए जाने जाता हैं मगर दुर्भाग्य से 20s के दशक से आजतक बॉलीवूड मे अच्छे संगीत म्यूजिक मूवी क्यो नही दे पा रहा है इसके उपर भी वीडियो बनाये? 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Are wo South hai Sanatan ka rakshak 😂 Faltu mai bullywood ko accha batane ke chakar me bhagwan Rajnikant, chiranjivi ki wood ko badnam mat kar samjha jai shree rama 😂
Proud of directors like Mani Ratnam & Priyadarshan who showed strong women characters and atleast they had identity if the film is not completely woman centric & sometimes in their movies, the male lead felt weak. Ex: Roja by Mani Ratnam or Kilukkam by Priyadarshan.❤
@@manishsuresh4996 He also portrayed her well in Vellanakalude Nadu, where she played a strong independent woman, also Menaka in Poochakkoru Mookkuthi where she played a strong role. Even his child actresses are amazing.
@@vedantrusty आपका टॉपिक बहुत ही अच्छा होता है बॉलीवूड मे 90s के दशक मे बहुत ही अच्छे संगीत के लिए जाने जाता हैं मगर दुर्भाग्य से 20s के दशक से आजतक बॉलीवूड मे अच्छे संगीत म्यूजिक मूवी क्यो नही दे पा रहा है इसके उपर भी वीडियो बनाये? 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@atulkumarvermaofflmao you are commenting this everywhere, you sound butthurt. I would suggest checking out good movies in south industries too, the ones which focus on women or are having balanced characters. KGF or Pushpa aren’t the only South Indian movies.
The reason why women as they get old, start to loose roles is "they were hired because of their looks". When whole PR for an actress is her looks then as soon as she physically ages, her career starts to fall. And this applies to men as well. Actor Taylor Lautner (played wolf in twilight) was hired because of his looks. Women were crazy for him. But the moment he started to gain weight, he lost his stardom. And unlike him Robert Patterson (played vampire in twilight) after twilight went on to doing indie movies. He openly stated that he did not wanted to associate with twilight. He established himself as an actor and he is still relevant. This whole twilight example applies to women in bollywood as well.
Taylor launtner not only get irrelevant because of his looks by his height too.. One woman on Facebook posted a picture of her with Taylor launtner.. And literally said something like.. He looks like a brother or son and maked fun of his height..and in comments all woman get along and decided to make fun of his height.. Hence he lost his majority of him being likable.. Since woman believe what other women says blindly ( not applicable to everyone but majority) this too contributed to Taylor launtner's down fall
That's why women opted for serials for a longer period of time coz they provide a platform where adequate amount of female characters can take places. For eg- wo rehne wali mahlo ki, Ye Rishta Kya Kehlata hai, Ye Hai Mohabbatein, Uttaran, Pavitra Rishta, Chhoti Bahu, Na Aana is Desh Meri laado, Pratigya, and so on
But that has its own sets of problems. Most early 2000s soap shit I saw conformed to a very traditional household. Dunno if this has changed in 20 years or not
The thumbnail was so accurate….Aish is fat shamed by the netizens a lot but I just love the fact that she doesn’t give a damn about them and embraces her own body❤❤❤ huge fan of aish❤❤
@@vedantrusty He started wrestling at 40 and wins World Championships... and Anushka , who has been training since childhood, stops participating... Because Bhai ki movies mei... females ka bahut bda role hota h... bhai ko jabardasti ka HEROIC show krne k liye toh bilkul hi nhi hoti..
@@quizudita oh it was because of of her untimely pregnancy and she will not be in her prime for for next olympics i think but i still feel like it is anuskha"s most underwhelming roles because always plays unique independent strong woman roles in every movie but it still earned her a star for being salman's costar and one of the few actress who had acted with all 3 khans in industry that too a very big female role for a salman movie after zoya's character
man, is it just me or these days yt recomendations are getting so good that I keep about 6 videos opened in new tabs to watch them and the list just keeps getting bigger and bigger..
Bollywood is mirror of society, we as a society still not managed to create safe nation for our children and women . Bollywood is showing what society is consuming .
Indian wymn shouldn't be shy, homesick, scared anymore.. there is lots of freedom for them in India.. but they aren't utilizing it.. Don't blame Indian men for why wymn here aren't progressive
I don't know how much the Hindi audience knows about the works of The Greatest Indian Film Maker Satyajit Ray. His craft in film making has enriched our Film industry immensely & the way he used to portray women in his cinema is a treat to watch. Movies like Apu Triology, Maha Nagar, Charulata, Sonar Kella (Golden Fort of Jaisalmer) is a treat to watch for every film viewer & cinema buff.
@@vedantrusty ब्रो आपका टॉपिक बहुत ही अच्छा होता है बॉलीवूड मे 90s के दशक मे बहुत ही अच्छे संगीत के लिए जाने जाता हैं मगर दुर्भाग्य से 20s के दशक से आजतक बॉलीवूड मे अच्छे संगीत म्यूजिक मूवी क्यो नही दे पा रहा है इसके उपर भी वीडियो बनाये? 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@vedantrusty आपका टॉपिक बहुत ही अच्छा होता है बॉलीवूड मे 90s के दशक मे बहुत ही अच्छे संगीत के लिए जाने जाता हैं मगर दुर्भाग्य से 20s के दशक से आजतक बॉलीवूड मे अच्छे संगीत म्यूजिक मूवी क्यो नही दे पा रहा है इसके उपर भी वीडियो बनाये? 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@preetiraut7700This might be a start of changing things in the Telugu film industry...hope so...but yeah Bollywood in female representation have come a long way than this one...even with a few obnoxious products 😂😂
Ek chiz ye bhi ki jab 70-80-90's me family drama movies aati thi unme modern women character roles ko bade galat tarike se dikhaya jaata tha, ki modern womens jealousy, greedy type hote hai, aur Ghoonghat odhi hui, pati parmeshwar wale dialogues marne wale hamesha acche hote hai. If you think I am wrong bhai aapne wo movies dekhe hi nahi shayad... For example, Judaai of Anil Kapoor, late Shree Devi ji, Urmila Matondkar
I remember there was this film starring Anil Kapoor and Meenakshi Sheshadri which had Meenakshi's character as a well educated modern woman who fixed anil Kapoor's dysfunctional family (as far as I can remember ) it had Kader Khan as well who was breaking the fourth wall during the late 80s and 90s and he was funny , there was another film with Rekha which was also Salman Khan's debut in a supporting role , she played a village woman but she later turned out to be an educated woman in the end (i don't remember the story ), these are two examples from the 80s-90s bollywood where we can see modern women being shown in positive light.
Indian movies😂 vs Hollywood Jb Indian movies dekhata hoo TB ladhai karne ka motivation aa jata hai...😂😂😂 Aur jb Hollywood movie dekhta hu tab lagata hai Duniya abhi khatam hone hi wali hai 😂😂😂
@@vedantrusty आपका टॉपिक बहुत ही अच्छा होता है बॉलीवूड मे 90s के दशक मे बहुत ही अच्छे संगीत के लिए जाने जाता हैं मगर दुर्भाग्य से 20s के दशक से आजतक बॉलीवूड मे अच्छे संगीत म्यूजिक मूवी क्यो नही दे पा रहा है इसके उपर भी वीडियो बनाये? 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Very true but sometimes bollywood give a very absurd direction to female characters in the name of empowering movies like four more shots, thank you for coming ,vere di wedding .where character just try to normalise people with low morals.I don't think so cheating ,drinking ,smoking ,abusing should be glorified in the name of empowerment for male or female Movies like mother india,english vinglish,queen Darling are real feminist movies where women hold power of their opinions and feeling .Strong enough to break leashes in their own head . People with low morals and principles should be portrayed but not glorified .I hope people uderstand the difference
people been glorifying promatic behaviour of men in lots of men-centric movies from really start of the time. and it is also thought as cool by men. but 2 movies which talks about women doing this things then they gets called out. like ypu only want to portray women in some sterotypical chacter. and can't fathom women having fun and living basic life. i watched thank you for coming. and other than last part of movie everything of okay. people don't even watch movies but try to attack beforehand like they did in animal. but animal actually had problamatic themes which are glorified by sigayma males.
@@pc_hmk2204 I m not the kind of person who talk without watching movies I have watched all the mentioned movies There is no problem in making such movies and portraying men or women in such way .But problem is selling it in the name of feminism which clearly far away from something real which women fight for .I believe people are more critical of movies in general nowadays Misogynist and glorifing nature of male centric movies have been called out .And if we are talking about such behaviour then definitely testimonial that people are aware what they are watching and critical about situation of our society. Personally talking animal and thank you for coming both written very superficially I didn't liked any of them to revist anytime. But I liked animal for its visual representation and songs
@@pc_hmk2204 Yeah, a lot of assumptions in your comment. He literally said that the old movies were literally loved by women too, automatically assuming that it was "cool by men". Those 2 movies, "4 more shots" and "thank you for coming" are directly very open to cheating. In the final episode of season 2, one of the character who was cheating on her bf for the entire season got caught and actually victim blamed the bf. This is the epitome of "feminism" bollywood portrays? "like ypu only want to portray women in some sterotypical chacter. and can't fathom women having fun and living basic life" so cheating and getting away with it is basic life? Animal was indeed bad but I never understood how it hated women, ranbir cheated and his wife left him, He literally got the consequences of his actons. What consequence the girl from 4 more shots got? like the movie by Alia bhatt "live you zindagi" was about mental health but the movie show that she got cheated on and got her mental health ruined, ok but alia also cheated on another character in her movie? You seem damn pissed that "4 more shots" is getting called out because there are also male centric female, you somewhere feel that 4 more shots is justified too. But let me tell you, just because there are toxic male centric movies doesn't justify the toxic female centric movie. That is how it works, don't like it then cry about it
Bolleywood is business if female audience will support good female movies and criticize those things they will stop potraying women like this Bolleywood actress cannot change this because they not the costumer
Brother you haven't take Kangna Ranaut's Name , that girl literally given her life to make women centric film...no sexy scenes, no item song, no unhealthy talks...her movies are full of empowerment and entertainment ... hopefully in recent era more such women centric Films are comming and they are really doing good Just like Article 370 , lapata ladies and now crew ❤❤❤
@@amandadarkwood535 mene ak baat notice kiya h bollywood ki actress ko mostly girl bola jata h specially heroines logo ko bhale unki age 35-40 saal ho 😮
@@raja-jl9os and Bollywood actors are romancing girls their daughters age but I don’t see ur sexist bums complaining about that! Yet you’re so triggered just because no one is age shaming women that u made the same comment 3 times?
The thing is jis audience ko ye video samjh aata h unki demography itni kam h ki wo sayd society me change nii la sakte... Rest don't bother about any of this anyway... But the good thing I liked in this video is that you kept it indigenous mostly. It was not West vs. Us. So good work!
Its not only Bollywood's problem but whole indian cinemas, from telugu tamil films where throwing fruits on female's body is turned to be heroic to men forcing them into things ,they doesn't want As a Bengali person even our regional movies shows women's as docile and submissive, and regarding bihari movies it should be taken 😂away from this type of discussion.
Movies essentially reflect our society. In the 80s and 90s, women were not portrayed as strong. If filmmakers created films with strong, independent women, the audience might not have connected with them. This is evident in movies like 'Silsilay' and 'Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna.' While these movies are quite realistic, they go against societal norms. Hence, filmmakers face pressure to depict what the audience wants to see. Now, with feminism being a hot topic, the audience has evolved. Therefore, it's important not to confuse different eras with each other… that why I like @thestorybee she has good analysis
A very eye opening video. I would say we need a change in our culture too. Cinema is a mirror to the culture. If we start respecting women more in our culture and refuse to pay money for movies where female characters are just "Window dressing" then the film makers will also have to change to reflect the culture. But unfortunately in India in my opinion the outlook towards women has not changed much. While in big cities and some areas there is a better more modern outlook towards women, in majority of india the state and respect towards women is still 10-20 years behind compared to the rest of india and modern society.
The movie "the dirty picture" Is a great movie as it shows the problems faced by women in movie industry Would highly recommend to anyone if interested
Women primary comodity is beauty , their is a reason why make up is billion dollar industry , plastic surgery industry is booming , men are visual creatures so they like younger women, this is basic biology , ... But we should accept everything (sarcasm)
@@vasusharma4519 i partially understand your point , but their is a reason why item songs exist and it to cater to the male audience , and generally speaking female leaded movies don't garner much at box office , and some female leaded movies are just about degrading men and showing men cruel and inferior , and promoting promiscuity (eg; thank u for coming , 4 more shots).
@@yashvardhan4884 those movies aren't degrading men, women enjoying their lives and regarding promiscuity, literally most bollywood movies had a Casanova hero who would sleep around with multiple women but guys like u never have any objections with that. this selective preaching ain't nice
Bhut h acha topic cover kia, is se audience ka mindset pata chalta k ham khud h kitne regressive mindset k hai art khud s h katam kardia, jabki hamara country has beauty and art in every profession
This is the situation in bollywood mainly (not sure about other industries tbh). Please watch the bengali movies. There are many women-centric movies from the beginning.
But there's a huge factor that you forgot to talk about.. That women are commonly very less interested in certain fields like Writing, Editing, Direction, Camera.. etc. which ultimately leads to the less representation of them in cinema! I have seen every other woman is interested in medical, doctoring, accounts, banking etc. but rarely any girl who wants to become an editor or writer or director.
There are many female actresses who r still far better than many male high paid actors. Main audience of movies in theaters are men so they will promote male centric than female centric so the directors slowly stops making female centric and promote more male centric. In those movies females are just used as objects so it will reflect in audience too .... Until the portrayal of actors and actresses in movies change our society will still remain same... Hope the industries change for good
@@vyshnavi7320 these movies are male centric because the majority of consumers are male..if I was a owner of a pencil company.. I would have created the typical wooden pencil because of the cost of making it and it can be used way longer than the plastic lead pencil... People watch what they can relate to..there's no reason for the bollywood to create female centric movies.. Their is akira a whole female centric movie.. It was failed miserably rotten tomatoes 33% imdb 5.8 .. You know why people couldn't find that relating factor..and I guarantee that till will continue for more 30,40 years unless and until.. It would be an excellent movie..which is an expection
Movies aren't influential as social media influencers they're the main culprits.. If we look at trending influencer fighting each other and sexualizing them selves promoting being nalf naked..these should be banned for the sake of the society in a true manner
@@JustMogged yeah true I agree with you but for example if u ask them how do they let someone know that they love them they say - "we stalk them wherever they go " if u ask why they say the heroes donthe same with heroines.... This is just one of the small infuences..
The day when women stat to respect themselves in reality not run after successful men and care about their own beauty rather than thier character it's a long day ahead for them in Indian Cinema
As a Real Woman I do naturally rather Love the MEN ! * I do not care about other females particularly, rather. I am nicely old fashioned and traditional, rather.
This just shows how filmmakers like satyajit ray were way ahead of their times.Even shyam benegal.I feel parallel cinema throughout the 70s,80s always had solid female performances.Smita patil,shabana azmi,sureka sikhri classic examples.
I think between the time of 2000s to 2010s, Bollywood was at its peak of showing women as eye candy. Tabu, Vidya, Kangana, Priyanka were the actresses who changed the dynamics by starring in successful female led films for the later actresses like Deepika, Anushka, Taapsee, Aalia, Yami etc.
This behavior towards women is not only prevalent in bollywood but in music industry also you would see female vocalists getting merely 2 lines in the whole song .Earlier there used to be duet songs where the male and female vocalists both had their equal parts but now you see very less female songs ...
I totally agree with this "spending power" point and i think the best example of this is Barbie. It became a superhit coz women have spending power in west imagine esi movie india mai release hoti, ladkiya bechari to dekhne jaa nahi pati ulta so called sigma male roasters roasting videos or bana dete.
Not just bollywood, even the south film industry does the same. Whenever im watching TV along with my family and start watching a south movie, most of the times there are scenes where they focus a lot on actress's waist and keep objectifying them it makes me very uncomfortable and the fact that she has no important role other than just being actor's gf or trophy wife.
I just hope this video can reach many people 🙏 gg great video bro sharing it ,u perfectly pointed out the things thats so normalized in the name of cinema which inspires millions
Such a beautifully researched video highlighting in intricate manner of the problems we have and have had in decades cinemas also as a society what we have done to fuel it . Thank you 🙏 for this gem of a video .
@@cybercop3108 I think south movies are successful because of the same gravity defying reason But all in all I feel masala chahiye sabko and a little mindless comedy
i always feel like you have the talent to make great videos its the selling of topic and adding the spice rather than talking about and analysing the reasons and solutions
@@rohankashyap4016How so? Talking about right issues and speaking valid points isn't milking brother. And btw you'll find many men too agreeing with his opinion in this comment section, those men who aren't cheap wanna be sigmas.
So you think it's only about Bollywood? It has become a fashion to talk about Bollywood only, not the Indian film industry in general, irrespective of languages.
I agree with everything here and I hate to see when some movies use this whole smashing patriarchy propaganda to market their movie, I'm talking about "thank you for coming"
In sridevi's case this statement is different .she had done more powerful role then male actors even sometimes she get more or same salary as equal as male actors .
Films like bareilley ki barfi and mimi (kriti sanon best performance)has also given plafform for significant female potrayal with limited budget leading to which it doesnt matter it has grand setup and expensive locations...but promoting more of small town limited budget film with great story...
Didnt have to make a 20 min drag video on this topic when the clear answer is that big corporates have taken over where Profits > Story and Character development
kangana Ranaut is the only outsider whos doing female centric powerful movies by herself without any support of big nepo or production gang.....she took risks everytimes.....its just audience just like Animal type movies....they don't care about female centric movies.....she has opposed item songs n fairness brands ....helped paved the way for modern women .....one of the talented, versatile n capable actor of this generation....She has done so many women centric films but this society diacourage them....they hate opinionated women....u should have mentioned her.....be it Queen, be it Tanu weds Manu, b it Fashion or Manikarnika or Panga or Tejas etc.....she has done many good films.....everyone has different opinions so respect that ....people just hate her coz she insulted back their nepo favourites....but she was being slut shamed, cornered, exploited, insulted first.....anyway....she is the only one whos taking risks for women..
Seriously, this is the reason why Bollywood hasn't improved because they don't believe in change and being creative because apparently that won't get them money.
Women actress got replaced because most of them or many of them were showed as glam girl and still it going on.but manny girl still going on through their talent and acting
I respect all women out there Entertainment has no gender If a female centric movie is fun to watch I'll watch it But my point is the sole purpose of movie is to Entertain people It should be above all the world issues There are documentaries and other things for awareness But at the same time I agree women should not be portrayed as weak character
movies or art in general have always been political. There were no age in cinema where movies weren't political. Art meant for People to speak their ideas to the public.
Women ought unto be portrayed as weak within every essence. Rather. Women art naturally weaker than Men. Man is naturally Dominant. Fortunately. As a Real Woman I do naturally rather Love the MEN ! *
I guess it has always been audience centric. Starting from the 50s and 60s majority of the cinema audience were men who were going out which changed later on and hence more female centric movies for female audience. We can also see same examples in TV where serials circle around female characters because females were main audience of TV then.
14:55 The only way I see a change is for these 90s female actresses to make a comeback yet again in the industry. I mean... c'mon, the recently released Terminator: Dark fate movie had a female-centric plot, with both the old actor & actress from the initial terminator series- Arnold and Linda present in it. And everyone knows how successful the Terminator series was in the 80s.
even in Zoya Akhtar movies like gully boy or Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara both written and directed by her don't have strong women character and about women centric movies although i don't about Bollywood but many of such movies made for women empowerment put down men like every men in the movie is incompetent ,power abusing and pervert except one the love interest while the all women are shown without flaws which makes me as audience not connect to it and because of those movies i feel image of women centric movies has gone down and i don't have incentive to watch it
True I don't know why filmmakers think female centeic filsm has to be men bashing. Like just write a good story and have good female characters in it. That's what we want.
I believe Anushka's character in "Sultan" is quite centric and essential for the character arc of Salman's character. So I don't think the movie would pass the 'sexy lamp test'.
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who is your fav actress? Also, like karo, varna algorithm push kaise karega?
It's a common take but definitely Tabu.
Kriti Sanon
karan johar
Kriti sanon
Sridevi ji and hema malini ji
It's not just Bollywood, you just need to read the comments under some posts by "normal" Indians. It's like parents have stopped teaching their kids how to respect other humans.
Hmmmm
So true
Respect is earned...
It's not your 90's or 2000's behen 😂 you can't expect to get respect by doing nothing or bare minimum, just because you're a WOMAN 😂
Well, it's a lot of nuances. Simplified criticism- westernization is root cause.
Ayesa kyu hua, tali hamesha do hatho se bajti hai.
@@arpan9937 yes, shift all the blame onto the westerners. No fault of the poor innocent Indians. I guess it's also their fault for India's scam centres. After all it was the idea of the westerners to open call centers in India in the first place.
Before westernisation sub India mein doud ke dulhe they. 🙄
While films are a mirror to society, the damage that Bollywood films have inflicted on the position and life of women in real life is enormous, especially in the low-education sections, where you will still find people following the same narrative of sati savitri aurat and ijjat etc while treating women like scum. So happy that discussions like this are now happening and so happy to see this video on your channel.
Indeed!
@AdeteDahiya Mam , mere liye to aap kisi Bollywood actress se kam nhi ho ❤😅😊
,Films society ka mirror nahi hai , ye galatfahmi dur kar lo apni 😏
@@MohitYadav-th7fz Agreed 💯💯
Us hisab se to kgf dekhne ke bad ladko ko gangster ban jana sahuye tha 😅
Men ko strong dikhane k liye women ko weak dikhana shuru kr dia
Yup
Mmmm..Men are on average stronger than women. How is showing the truth discrimination?
It's the same everywhere. Hollywood me dekho, they are virtually-castrating their male characters and ruining legacy studios, in the name of "empowerment". A feminine but strong woman is what most people like seeing. I hope we don't copy the west into bringing that batshit crazy genre into India.
South ke filme dekhe hai? Wahan pe har film mein ladki ko thappad aur slut shame kiya jaata hai.
South ka cringe bhi toh dekho.
As a woman, i am thankful to you for educating your audience. Its interesting how Indian cinema went from progressive and ahead of their times to PANDERING TO THE ILLITERATE MALE AUDIENCE...and that slowly becoming a norm for modern Bollywood even though the country has changed a lot since then
Bollywood is a buisiness not a moral values classroom. They will make what works.
literate males too don't have any morals
Its because of the cheap paisabaaz actor-producers like sharu, sallu, akki.. we should not watch their movies
If you see South Indian commercial films you will
stop watching films.
@@Abhishek-pi5rloh..waha or bura haal h ky
Not only in cinemas,I can see this on social media platforms, especially UA-cam
True, the most popular youtubers are mostly male.
Banati hai videos but bachho ke liye😅
@@rohankashyap4016
If u find maa behen ki gaali wali videos funny to actual funny videos bachho ki hi lagengi.
@@rohankashyap4016 vo gali aur ashleel bate nahi karti BB aur carry jaise, kyuki log unhe slut shame karenge aur indian audience ko kachra hi dekhna pasand h tabhi carry k itne views hote h
Have you seen Sofia Ansari, Poonam and hundred more creators like this who show body and earn .
Girls themselves becoming object and criticising others for objectifying them
Sandeep R Vanga is compared to Tarantino to justify the violence. But the thing is Tarantino has made films with well written characters and that includes female characters as well.
Tarantino inspired by jhon woo
@@raja-jl9os although I consider Bong better than QT, Trantino has been in industry way before Bong started hi career.
@@anshuman230 abe m jhon woo ki baat kar raha hu vo action movies banata h
@@raja-jl9os acha Hong kong wala
rockstar mai he's pretty deranged waise bhi. also animal mai jyada kuch nahi bas violence hai halka sa, baaki bas gun chala raha hai. aur cheating part toh usse suit karta hai so 🤷🏾♀️
I am a big fan of Lara Dutta even today. She is the miss universe, the bollywood doesn't give her roles, but for me, she is definitely one of the greatest female actors. Also, Vidya Balan is an actor who didn't make age a barrier for herself, she needs appreciation for her.
Good point
Her role in partner made many men consider marrying a single mother
@hassanabdullah2425 Her glamour cant be matched again. Only Harnaaz Sandhu has the ability to replace her but then she is into punjabi cinema and not Bollywood.
@@agastyamishra6850 she easily outshone Katrina who was overacting as usual.
bruh that's not now how it works. If Katrina brings more revenue why would Bollywood give roles to Lara?
And then there was oscar winner director Satyajit Ray, who throughout his film career spanning decades gave us films like Tin Kanya, Mahanagar, Debi and so on. He was way ahead in female potrayals, and could logially write and represent the thinking of women character beautifully.
Exactly there were no hero or heroine in his movies, they had characters be it male or female and they were well fleshed out. And anyways, old bengali movies had good female characters even if they were secondary
@@thegreenjellybean77 he perfectly understood that even simple stories can be beautiful
@@thegreenjellybean77 that's the problem of Indian mainstream we always obsessed with hero - heroine formula
He also told that masses in india are backward audience as we can see how commercial films are so cheap and its so true if movies like jawan gadar 2 still are so hit shows majority of india is still backward and craves for cheap entertainment due to low socio economic status leading to more depressed lives hence more worship of heroism
@@Qwmnenbvctyzioswo avtar , titanic , avengers , Jurassic world ye sab hollywood ki highest grossing movies h
Not just chandni and sadma but most of sridevi movies had strong women characters , be it chaalbaaz , Lamhe, nagina, Mr india, sherni, banjaran, gumraah (brilliant performance), laadla, judaai, english vinglish , mom and tons of south movies too. And i think that is why she became the first female superstar of INDIAN cinema (not alone bollywood) . Just like you made a video on Rajesh khanna , the first superstar. I would appreciate if u make a video on Sridevi as well on her journey of becoming 1st female superstar of country. Equality to yaha bhi honi chahiye na 😂.BTW a very well made video. loved it.
All are medicore films
@@rakshithnayak1206 i am talking about the characters she played.
Even in Khuda gawah like movie she had strong female character.
@@preetiraut7700 yess it was opposite amitabh bacchan that she played double role and shared climax with him, it was the only time amitabh bacchan shared climax with heroine.
meena kumari has even better charecter like in saheb biwi aur gulam
I think sridevi ji is the only superstar who was ruling the Bollywood in that male dominated industry ...my mother told me that what a fan base sridevi ji had which any other male actor didn't have ....and we can see she has done mom, chandni,English vinglish. .and even in Mr india and chalbaaz she was doing comedy and her acting was best she overshadowed other..what a women she was❤
Only in the 80s 😂
@@KryptonitePeter 90s too and when she did comback in 2017 with movie named mom and she when she did English vinglish too ...1997 when she did judaai movie ..her fans across India and other countries were sad that she is quitting movies after this ...no other star reached this kind of stardom till date be it srk and Salman...sridevi ji outshined every actor and actress😗
@@CG___2789 only in the 80s. 90s she gave huge flops 😂 1993 to 94 flops movies and 1996 she gave Army it’s another flop. Judaai was only hit because of Anil Kapoor not Sridevi.
@@KryptonitePeter judaai was only revolving around sridevi character kajal🤣till date people only know judaai movie as of sridevi movie not anil kapoor..😂..and people came to watch judaai as it was announced that It is going to be her last movie ...you can live in delusion...🤪
@@KryptonitePeter movies can be flop but unki acting nhi ....
South Industry also suffers from this problem. The infamous scene of Pushpa. The stars of that industry being in romantic roles with 30 years younger female.Heck I don't even remember last time when I watched a women centric mainstream south film. Also did I mention Item songs? Don't get me started with their commercial "love"stories.I remember a south movie where I am not kidding the hero threatens the heroine of r*ping her if she doesn't fall for him and its shown in a comedic light.Many actresses of that industry have called out this sexism in their interviews.
true man
@@vedantrusty आपका टॉपिक बहुत ही अच्छा होता है बॉलीवूड मे 90s के दशक मे बहुत ही अच्छे संगीत के लिए जाने जाता हैं मगर दुर्भाग्य से 20s के दशक से आजतक बॉलीवूड मे अच्छे संगीत म्यूजिक मूवी क्यो नही दे पा रहा है इसके उपर भी वीडियो बनाये?
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I was about to comment on the same-especially Telugu and Tamil film industries.
Which infamous scene is he talking about? I searched and didn't find anything!?
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Are wo South hai Sanatan ka rakshak 😂
Faltu mai bullywood ko accha batane ke chakar me bhagwan Rajnikant, chiranjivi ki wood ko badnam mat kar samjha jai shree rama 😂
Proud of directors like Mani Ratnam & Priyadarshan who showed strong women characters and atleast they had identity if the film is not completely woman centric & sometimes in their movies, the male lead felt weak. Ex: Roja by Mani Ratnam or Kilukkam by Priyadarshan.❤
Indeed
Yeah, Priyadarshan's portrayal of Shobhana in Thenmavin Kombath was really beautiful
@@manishsuresh4996 He also portrayed her well in Vellanakalude Nadu, where she played a strong independent woman, also Menaka in Poochakkoru Mookkuthi where she played a strong role. Even his child actresses are amazing.
@@vedantrustyI think you didn't watch super hit Priyadarshan's Garam Masala 😂😂
@@tanvitripathi3997 dhol
In my opinion, i don't want a male or female in industry, i want talent.
Wah kya baat
@@vedantrusty आपका टॉपिक बहुत ही अच्छा होता है बॉलीवूड मे 90s के दशक मे बहुत ही अच्छे संगीत के लिए जाने जाता हैं मगर दुर्भाग्य से 20s के दशक से आजतक बॉलीवूड मे अच्छे संगीत म्यूजिक मूवी क्यो नही दे पा रहा है इसके उपर भी वीडियो बनाये?
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@@pin2xpress430 already bana chuka hai wo
@atulkumarvermaofflmao you are commenting this everywhere, you sound butthurt. I would suggest checking out good movies in south industries too, the ones which focus on women or are having balanced characters. KGF or Pushpa aren’t the only South Indian movies.
@@thusharsm but mostly south ki whi movie hit hoti jisme bs ladkiyo ko eye candy ki treat krte hai jaise ki kgf aur pushpa mei
The reason why women as they get old, start to loose roles is "they were hired because of their looks". When whole PR for an actress is her looks then as soon as she physically ages, her career starts to fall. And this applies to men as well. Actor Taylor Lautner (played wolf in twilight) was hired because of his looks. Women were crazy for him. But the moment he started to gain weight, he lost his stardom. And unlike him Robert Patterson (played vampire in twilight) after twilight went on to doing indie movies. He openly stated that he did not wanted to associate with twilight. He established himself as an actor and he is still relevant. This whole twilight example applies to women in bollywood as well.
Excellent point
@@vedantrusty thanks
Taylor launtner not only get irrelevant because of his looks by his height too.. One woman on Facebook posted a picture of her with Taylor launtner.. And literally said something like.. He looks like a brother or son and maked fun of his height..and in comments all woman get along and decided to make fun of his height.. Hence he lost his majority of him being likable.. Since woman believe what other women says blindly ( not applicable to everyone but majority) this too contributed to Taylor launtner's down fall
@@JustMogged agreed. His looks and height wasn't something women wanted and he lost his stardom
@@Digdigi appreciated
That's why women opted for serials for a longer period of time coz they provide a platform where adequate amount of female characters can take places. For eg- wo rehne wali mahlo ki, Ye Rishta Kya Kehlata hai, Ye Hai Mohabbatein, Uttaran, Pavitra Rishta, Chhoti Bahu, Na Aana is Desh Meri laado, Pratigya, and so on
But that has its own sets of problems. Most early 2000s soap shit I saw conformed to a very traditional household. Dunno if this has changed in 20 years or not
The thumbnail was so accurate….Aish is fat shamed by the netizens a lot but I just love the fact that she doesn’t give a damn about them and embraces her own body❤❤❤ huge fan of aish❤❤
Agreed,also the so called experts of instagram claim that she had done botox .lol
@@sadiq-hr8iv yup..they don’t have any other work to do except of….
@@sadiq-hr8iv Kisi ko pata kaisa chalta hoga? Kisine botox karwaya hai ki nahi...
People also should face shame her as well 😂🤦 Botox queen
@@arpan9937
Chehra dekh ke hi 😂😂
In Sultan whole character arc of Salman Khan was because of Anuska's character.
So it was kind of Important for story
Hmmm considerable
Ofcourse 😂 female is very important in salman movies
Even in his life
Women has taken unspoken responsibility of That man
Agree.
@@vedantrusty He started wrestling at 40 and wins World Championships... and Anushka , who has been training since childhood, stops participating...
Because Bhai ki movies mei... females ka bahut bda role hota h... bhai ko jabardasti ka HEROIC show krne k liye toh bilkul hi nhi hoti..
@@quizudita oh it was because of of her untimely pregnancy and she will not be in her prime for for next olympics i think but i still feel like it is anuskha"s most underwhelming roles because always plays unique independent strong woman roles in every movie but it still earned her a star for being salman's costar and one of the few actress who had acted with all 3 khans in industry that too a very big female role for a salman movie after zoya's character
Laapataa Ladies is good example in today's date for women centric movies
Surprised to see kangana is not included in the list.
Balki sabse jyada khulke kangana hi karti ha ye sab ....female centric movies ....😂😂😂
Vedant is breaking youtube with these red thumbnails 🗣🗣🗣🗣🦅🦅🔥🔥
Ye jab Tak chalege tab tak chalaege
man, is it just me or these days yt recomendations are getting so good that I keep about 6 videos opened in new tabs to watch them and the list just keeps getting bigger and bigger..
If you’re new to the channel then you’ll find lots more!
@@vedantrusty not exactly new, have watched many of your vids, still finding more. keep it up> ;')
Bollywood is mirror of society, we as a society still not managed to create safe nation for our children and women .
Bollywood is showing what society is consuming .
Indian wymn shouldn't be shy, homesick, scared anymore.. there is lots of freedom for them in India.. but they aren't utilizing it.. Don't blame Indian men for why wymn here aren't progressive
South ki filmo me to women ka role condition to Bollywood se bhi jyada bura hai...
Or bhojpuri ki to sab jante hai...
South ko kuch nhi bolenge ye kyuki uska trend nhi h .😅 Trend h ki har baar Bollywood ko roast karo😅
South Indians ke fans jyada toxic hote hai isliye unko koi kuch nhi bolega
I don't know how much the Hindi audience knows about the works of The Greatest Indian Film Maker Satyajit Ray. His craft in film making has enriched our Film industry immensely & the way he used to portray women in his cinema is a treat to watch. Movies like Apu Triology, Maha Nagar, Charulata, Sonar Kella (Golden Fort of Jaisalmer) is a treat to watch for every film viewer & cinema buff.
What do YOU know about Mrinal Sen, Rittik Ghatak, Hrishikesh Mukherjee?
@@loveyourself-n6y Don't ask me... I know them & their work very well.
@@loveyourself-n6y They're great too but Satyajit Ray is the greatest ever in the history
Right.. Ray portrayed ordinary stories as extraordinary ❤
ur content is sooo good, why so underrated 😭😭
Bas kya kare but thanks
To kya overrated chahiye rehne de usko
@@vedantrusty ब्रो आपका टॉपिक बहुत ही अच्छा होता है बॉलीवूड मे 90s के दशक मे बहुत ही अच्छे संगीत के लिए जाने जाता हैं मगर दुर्भाग्य से 20s के दशक से आजतक बॉलीवूड मे अच्छे संगीत म्यूजिक मूवी क्यो नही दे पा रहा है इसके उपर भी वीडियो बनाये?
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@@vedantrusty आपका टॉपिक बहुत ही अच्छा होता है बॉलीवूड मे 90s के दशक मे बहुत ही अच्छे संगीत के लिए जाने जाता हैं मगर दुर्भाग्य से 20s के दशक से आजतक बॉलीवूड मे अच्छे संगीत म्यूजिक मूवी क्यो नही दे पा रहा है इसके उपर भी वीडियो बनाये?
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2 lakh subs underrated 😂
Vedant: Female representation in Bollywood is bad.
Telugu industry: Uhh antawa mama uh uh aah aah😂
Lolllll
First read the lyrics of Ohh antava song. Then say anything
@@preetiraut7700This might be a start of changing things in the Telugu film industry...hope so...but yeah Bollywood in female representation have come a long way than this one...even with a few obnoxious products 😂😂
U know that song was feminist?
Telugu movie's are full of cringe
I love female centric movies and sadly, they're very rare
My dear even women don't watch those movies
True@@zackbrown5201
Thee society and mindset of masses need a reform. Even these videos help shape the minds of many! :)
Yes they do
Ek chiz ye bhi ki jab 70-80-90's me family drama movies aati thi unme modern women character roles ko bade galat tarike se dikhaya jaata tha, ki modern womens jealousy, greedy type hote hai, aur Ghoonghat odhi hui, pati parmeshwar wale dialogues marne wale hamesha acche hote hai.
If you think I am wrong bhai aapne wo movies dekhe hi nahi shayad...
For example, Judaai of Anil Kapoor, late Shree Devi ji, Urmila Matondkar
I remember there was this film starring Anil Kapoor and Meenakshi Sheshadri which had Meenakshi's character as a well educated modern woman who fixed anil Kapoor's dysfunctional family (as far as I can remember ) it had Kader Khan as well who was breaking the fourth wall during the late 80s and 90s and he was funny , there was another film with Rekha which was also Salman Khan's debut in a supporting role , she played a village woman but she later turned out to be an educated woman in the end (i don't remember the story ), these are two examples from the 80s-90s bollywood where we can see modern women being shown in positive light.
Apne username mai Christopher bhi job leta bich mai kahi 😂
This happen in Indians TV shows till now
Indian movies😂 vs Hollywood
Jb Indian movies dekhata hoo TB ladhai karne ka motivation aa jata hai...😂😂😂
Aur jb Hollywood movie dekhta hu tab lagata hai Duniya abhi khatam hone hi wali hai 😂😂😂
Lol
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@@vedantrusty har comment par bd lol 😂 hi reply karte ho bro
Jab Indian movies dekhta hu to achha feel hota hai 😊 par jab hollywood film dekhta hu to tharakapan aa jata hai 🤤🥵
@@vedantrusty आपका टॉपिक बहुत ही अच्छा होता है बॉलीवूड मे 90s के दशक मे बहुत ही अच्छे संगीत के लिए जाने जाता हैं मगर दुर्भाग्य से 20s के दशक से आजतक बॉलीवूड मे अच्छे संगीत म्यूजिक मूवी क्यो नही दे पा रहा है इसके उपर भी वीडियो बनाये?
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the scenes in hindi movies have gone so bad, watching them with parents feels so problematic
Very true but sometimes bollywood give a very absurd direction to female characters in the name of empowering movies like four more shots, thank you for coming ,vere di wedding .where character just try to normalise people with low morals.I don't think so cheating ,drinking ,smoking ,abusing should be glorified in the name of empowerment for male or female
Movies like mother india,english vinglish,queen Darling are real feminist movies where women hold power of their opinions and feeling .Strong enough to break leashes in their own head .
People with low morals and principles should be portrayed but not glorified .I hope people uderstand the difference
I hope so too
people been glorifying promatic behaviour of men in lots of men-centric movies from really start of the time. and it is also thought as cool by men. but 2 movies which talks about women doing this things then they gets called out. like ypu only want to portray women in some sterotypical chacter. and can't fathom women having fun and living basic life. i watched thank you for coming. and other than last part of movie everything of okay. people don't even watch movies but try to attack beforehand like they did in animal. but animal actually had problamatic themes which are glorified by sigayma males.
@@pc_hmk2204 I m not the kind of person who talk without watching movies I have watched all the mentioned movies There is no problem in making such movies and portraying men or women in such way .But problem is selling it in the name of feminism which clearly far away from something real which women fight for .I believe people are more critical of movies in general nowadays Misogynist and glorifing nature of male centric movies have been called out .And if we are talking about such behaviour then definitely testimonial that people are aware what they are watching and critical about situation of our society.
Personally talking animal and thank you for coming both written very superficially I didn't liked any of them to revist anytime. But I liked animal for its visual representation and songs
@@pc_hmk2204 Yeah, a lot of assumptions in your comment. He literally said that the old movies were literally loved by women too, automatically assuming that it was "cool by men". Those 2 movies, "4 more shots" and "thank you for coming" are directly very open to cheating. In the final episode of season 2, one of the character who was cheating on her bf for the entire season got caught and actually victim blamed the bf. This is the epitome of "feminism" bollywood portrays? "like ypu only want to portray women in some sterotypical chacter. and can't fathom women having fun and living basic life" so cheating and getting away with it is basic life? Animal was indeed bad but I never understood how it hated women, ranbir cheated and his wife left him, He literally got the consequences of his actons. What consequence the girl from 4 more shots got? like the movie by Alia bhatt "live you zindagi" was about mental health but the movie show that she got cheated on and got her mental health ruined, ok but alia also cheated on another character in her movie? You seem damn pissed that "4 more shots" is getting called out because there are also male centric female, you somewhere feel that 4 more shots is justified too. But let me tell you, just because there are toxic male centric movies doesn't justify the toxic female centric movie. That is how it works, don't like it then cry about it
south industry disrespects woman the most...
Except mollywood❤
Oh but it's than bollywood
You are right
So glad to see people having a discussion on this topic. Thank you Vedant. ❤ much needed
Bolleywood is business if female audience will support good female movies and criticize those things they will stop potraying women like this
Bolleywood actress cannot change this because they not the costumer
Correct
Brother you haven't take Kangna Ranaut's Name , that girl literally given her life to make women centric film...no sexy scenes, no item song, no unhealthy talks...her movies are full of empowerment and entertainment
... hopefully in recent era more such women centric Films are comming and they are really doing good
Just like Article 370 , lapata ladies and now crew ❤❤❤
How does kissing take away from women empowerment?? What rubbish??
@@amandadarkwood535 ye bollywood ki actress ko girl kab tak bolte rahnge ? kagana to young bhi nhi dikhti h 😂
@@amandadarkwood535 real life m 38 saal ki aurat koi ladki nhi bolta h
@@amandadarkwood535 mene ak baat notice kiya h bollywood ki actress ko mostly girl bola jata h specially heroines logo ko bhale unki age 35-40 saal ho 😮
@@raja-jl9os and Bollywood actors are romancing girls their daughters age but I don’t see ur sexist bums complaining about that! Yet you’re so triggered just because no one is age shaming women that u made the same comment 3 times?
dear zindagi, phobia, kahaani, are good females oriented movie
I do rather detest the Dear Zindagi Film.
Laapata ladies didn't work in theatre because it was released in parallel to Article 370 which was also led by a female character i.e. yami gautam
Interesting point
Your way of presenting the facts is phenomenal:)
Reality: Bollywood doesn't hate or love women. Bollywood likes money as any other industry.
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@@jaylogu5675 not his fault. everyone is doing that. bollywood, capitalists, media, hollyweird. double people = double money
The thing is jis audience ko ye video samjh aata h unki demography itni kam h ki wo sayd society me change nii la sakte... Rest don't bother about any of this anyway... But the good thing I liked in this video is that you kept it indigenous mostly. It was not West vs. Us. So good work!
Thanks
Its not only Bollywood's problem but whole indian cinemas, from telugu tamil films where throwing fruits on female's body is turned to be heroic to men forcing them into things ,they doesn't want
As a Bengali person even our regional movies shows women's as docile and submissive, and regarding bihari movies it should be taken 😂away from this type of discussion.
your video ideas are really different from others,really appreciate it👍👍
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Movies essentially reflect our society. In the 80s and 90s, women were not portrayed as strong. If filmmakers created films with strong, independent women, the audience might not have connected with them. This is evident in movies like 'Silsilay' and 'Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna.' While these movies are quite realistic, they go against societal norms. Hence, filmmakers face pressure to depict what the audience wants to see. Now, with feminism being a hot topic, the audience has evolved. Therefore, it's important not to confuse different eras with each other… that why I like @thestorybee she has good analysis
Priyanka Chopra will always be my fav❤
Wah
She also was my fav in childhood.. but not anymore.. after she showed her feminist side and other things
That priyanka is an awful radical, rather. *
Your video will be very useful for my thesis on Indian parallel cinema. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
A very eye opening video. I would say we need a change in our culture too. Cinema is a mirror to the culture. If we start respecting women more in our culture and refuse to pay money for movies where female characters are just "Window dressing" then the film makers will also have to change to reflect the culture. But unfortunately in India in my opinion the outlook towards women has not changed much. While in big cities and some areas there is a better more modern outlook towards women, in majority of india the state and respect towards women is still 10-20 years behind compared to the rest of india and modern society.
Indeed
The movie "the dirty picture"
Is a great movie as it shows the problems faced by women in movie industry
Would highly recommend to anyone if interested
I hath viewed the Film. Rather.
Finally saw a good Indian UA-cam channel for a change. I'm gonna check out your whole channel lol the content seems interesting
Women primary comodity is beauty , their is a reason why make up is billion dollar industry , plastic surgery industry is booming , men are visual creatures so they like younger women, this is basic biology , ... But we should accept everything (sarcasm)
I kinda disagree plot of a film has nothing to do with physical appearance.
@Navsgirl-ep6yw for male gaze
@@vasusharma4519 i partially understand your point , but their is a reason why item songs exist and it to cater to the male audience , and generally speaking female leaded movies don't garner much at box office , and some female leaded movies are just about degrading men and showing men cruel and inferior , and promoting promiscuity (eg; thank u for coming , 4 more shots).
Most logical person here
@@yashvardhan4884 those movies aren't degrading men, women enjoying their lives and regarding promiscuity, literally most bollywood movies had a Casanova hero who would sleep around with multiple women but guys like u never have any objections with that.
this selective preaching ain't nice
Bhut h acha topic cover kia, is se audience ka mindset pata chalta k ham khud h kitne regressive mindset k hai art khud s h katam kardia, jabki hamara country has beauty and art in every profession
This is the situation in bollywood mainly (not sure about other industries tbh). Please watch the bengali movies. There are many women-centric movies from the beginning.
But there's a huge factor that you forgot to talk about..
That women are commonly very less interested in certain fields like Writing, Editing, Direction, Camera.. etc.
which ultimately leads to the less representation of them in cinema!
I have seen every other woman is interested in medical, doctoring, accounts, banking etc.
but rarely any girl who wants to become an editor or writer or director.
There are many female actresses who r still far better than many male high paid actors.
Main audience of movies in theaters are men so they will promote male centric than female centric so the directors slowly stops making female centric and promote more male centric. In those movies females are just used as objects so it will reflect in audience too ....
Until the portrayal of actors and actresses in movies change our society will still remain same...
Hope the industries change for good
Exactly.. Female models earns 10x more than male models.. And it's similar with the scene you mentioned..
@@JustMogged the topic discussed here is far from ur mentioned topic.
@@vyshnavi7320 these movies are male centric because the majority of consumers are male..if I was a owner of a pencil company.. I would have created the typical wooden pencil because of the cost of making it and it can be used way longer than the plastic lead pencil... People watch what they can relate to..there's no reason for the bollywood to create female centric movies.. Their is akira a whole female centric movie.. It was failed miserably rotten tomatoes 33% imdb 5.8 .. You know why people couldn't find that relating factor..and I guarantee that till will continue for more 30,40 years unless and until.. It would be an excellent movie..which is an expection
Movies aren't influential as social media influencers they're the main culprits.. If we look at trending influencer fighting each other and sexualizing them selves promoting being nalf naked..these should be banned for the sake of the society in a true manner
@@JustMogged yeah true I agree with you but for example if u ask them how do they let someone know that they love them they say - "we stalk them wherever they go " if u ask why they say the heroes donthe same with heroines.... This is just one of the small infuences..
The day when women stat to respect themselves in reality not run after successful men and care about their own beauty rather than thier character it's a long day ahead for them in Indian Cinema
As a Real Woman I do naturally rather Love the MEN ! * I do not care about other females particularly, rather. I am nicely old fashioned and traditional, rather.
You missed NH10..!
One of the best films on this genre...❤
This just shows how filmmakers like satyajit ray were way ahead of their times.Even shyam benegal.I feel parallel cinema throughout the 70s,80s always had solid female performances.Smita patil,shabana azmi,sureka sikhri classic examples.
I think between the time of 2000s to 2010s, Bollywood was at its peak of showing women as eye candy. Tabu, Vidya, Kangana, Priyanka were the actresses who changed the dynamics by starring in successful female led films for the later actresses like Deepika, Anushka, Taapsee, Aalia, Yami etc.
This behavior towards women is not only prevalent in bollywood but in music industry also you would see female vocalists getting merely 2 lines in the whole song .Earlier there used to be duet songs where the male and female vocalists both had their equal parts but now you see very less female songs ...
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I totally agree with this "spending power" point and i think the best example of this is Barbie.
It became a superhit coz women have spending power in west imagine esi movie india mai release hoti, ladkiya bechari to dekhne jaa nahi pati ulta so called sigma male roasters roasting videos or bana dete.
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Omg another mind blowing video man good job 😊😊
Thank you so much 😀
Not just bollywood, even the south film industry does the same.
Whenever im watching TV along with my family and start watching a south movie, most of the times there are scenes where they focus a lot on actress's waist and keep objectifying them it makes me very uncomfortable and the fact that she has no important role other than just being actor's gf or trophy wife.
I was waiting for you to mention these 3.
1) Charulata
2) Zoya Akhtar
3) AIB Diva song
2/3🎉
I just hope this video can reach many people 🙏 gg great video bro sharing it ,u perfectly pointed out the things thats so normalized in the name of cinema which inspires millions
Thank you man!
Such a beautifully researched video highlighting in intricate manner of the problems we have and have had in decades cinemas also as a society what we have done to fuel it . Thank you 🙏 for this gem of a video .
This is leftist horsehsit. This man is trying deny basic biology
@@cybercop3108 I think south movies are successful because of the same gravity defying reason
But all in all I feel masala chahiye sabko and a little mindless comedy
i always feel like you have the talent to make great videos its the selling of topic and adding the spice rather than talking about and analysing the reasons and solutions
Milking female audiens😅
@@rohankashyap4016How so? Talking about right issues and speaking valid points isn't milking brother. And btw you'll find many men too agreeing with his opinion in this comment section, those men who aren't cheap wanna be sigmas.
Sare ke sare Pura bollywood cringe hai 😂😂😂😂
Your efforts are paying off, keep it up❤
Thank you
Merry Christmas is such an example where the superstar paid more than vijay sethupathi
14:20 this question in itself is unfair
My god Kangana was so ahead of time 🛐
Consistency at its peak 🛐🛐🛐🛐🛐 vedant bro delivering bangers left right and centre 😂😂
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So you think it's only about Bollywood? It has become a fashion to talk about Bollywood only, not the Indian film industry in general, irrespective of languages.
I agree with everything here and I hate to see when some movies use this whole smashing patriarchy propaganda to market their movie, I'm talking about "thank you for coming"
Good point
In sridevi's case this statement is different .she had done more powerful role then male actors even sometimes she get more or same salary as equal as male actors .
Films like bareilley ki barfi and mimi (kriti sanon best performance)has also given plafform for significant female potrayal with limited budget leading to which it doesnt matter it has grand setup and expensive locations...but promoting more of small town limited budget film with great story...
Didnt have to make a 20 min drag video on this topic when the clear answer is that big corporates have taken over where Profits > Story and Character development
Rocky bhai to his so called gf in kgf: tujhe maine yahan laaya hai apna entertainment karne ke liye
Audience: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
kangana Ranaut is the only outsider whos doing female centric powerful movies by herself without any support of big nepo or production gang.....she took risks everytimes.....its just audience just like Animal type movies....they don't care about female centric movies.....she has opposed item songs n fairness brands ....helped paved the way for modern women .....one of the talented, versatile n capable actor of this generation....She has done so many women centric films but this society diacourage them....they hate opinionated women....u should have mentioned her.....be it Queen, be it Tanu weds Manu, b it Fashion or Manikarnika or Panga or Tejas etc.....she has done many good films.....everyone has different opinions so respect that ....people just hate her coz she insulted back their nepo favourites....but she was being slut shamed, cornered, exploited, insulted first.....anyway....she is the only one whos taking risks for women..
Female jab Tak attention seeker rahengi aor self respect built nahi karenge aor uski jagah dhikhawa karengi toh unka kuch nahi ho sakta 😂😂
Seriously, this is the reason why Bollywood hasn't improved because they don't believe in change and being creative because apparently that won't get them money.
It would be good if you gave English subtitles. Lot of us don't understand Hindi that much.
You are raised by a strong women as well as by an asli mard i can see that 🤗🙌🙌
Women actress got replaced because most of them or many of them were showed as glam girl and still it going on.but manny girl still going on through their talent and acting
Raazi was awesome ❤❤
But so underrated 😢
I'm glad so many people are finally talking about this.
"Sadly, it's a man's man's world" - Ranvijay Singh Balbir (Animal)
NOT SADLY "
Priyanka Chopra always proved herself... and she is the real Queen❤ not even Bollywood but Hollywood also❤ and Anushka Shetty, Madhubala❤
No. That priyanka is an awful radical, rather. *
I respect all women out there Entertainment has no gender If a female centric movie is fun to watch I'll watch it
But my point is the sole purpose of movie is to Entertain people It should be above all the world issues There are documentaries and other things for awareness
But at the same time I agree women should not be portrayed as weak character
movies or art in general have always been political. There were no age in cinema where movies weren't political. Art meant for People to speak their ideas to the public.
Women ought unto be portrayed as weak within every essence. Rather. Women art naturally weaker than Men. Man is naturally Dominant. Fortunately. As a Real Woman I do naturally rather Love the MEN ! *
most of the south Indian movies r like mysogynistic sexist..
Loved the video and subscribed you immediately!
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Vedant females are also paid more on Indian television,where males are the side kicks and are paid less...say what ..
I guess it has always been audience centric. Starting from the 50s and 60s majority of the cinema audience were men who were going out which changed later on and hence more female centric movies for female audience. We can also see same examples in TV where serials circle around female characters because females were main audience of TV then.
14:55 The only way I see a change is for these 90s female actresses to make a comeback yet again in the industry. I mean... c'mon, the recently released Terminator: Dark fate movie had a female-centric plot, with both the old actor & actress from the initial terminator series- Arnold and Linda present in it. And everyone knows how successful the Terminator series was in the 80s.
even in Zoya Akhtar movies like gully boy or Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara both written and directed by her don't have strong women character and about women centric movies although i don't about Bollywood but many of such movies made for women empowerment put down men like every men in the movie is incompetent ,power abusing and pervert except one the love interest while the all women are shown without flaws which makes me as audience not connect to it and because of those movies i feel image of women centric movies has gone down and i don't have incentive to watch it
True I don't know why filmmakers think female centeic filsm has to be men bashing. Like just write a good story and have good female characters in it. That's what we want.
I do not desire for there unto be female centric Films. Rather. *
Zoya in tiger series is one of the most powerful woman character in history of Bollywood.❤❤❤
I believe Anushka's character in "Sultan" is quite centric and essential for the character arc of Salman's character. So I don't think the movie would pass the 'sexy lamp test'.
Yea agree but that movie goes by the name of Salman Khan's movie and anuska's character is not praised that much. So it's still a male centric movie
We make it male centric or a better term - Hero centric - even though many other actors show better performance-
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