When I was a kid, I came across an article about Aikido in a magazine. It was a brief, high-level introduction, but I was immediately fascinated. Excited, I shared my newfound discovery with my cousin. Curious, he asked me what Aikido was all about. I told him it was simple-just draw circles in the air with your arms! He was skeptical, of course, and to prove his point, he punched me in the face without warning. Instinctively, I waved my arm in a circle, and to both of our surprise, I ended up throwing him into the air, his feet up and head down! He hit the ground hard, landing on his head. It almost knocked him out, and he cried like a girl. It was one of the most glorious moments of my life, and even after forty some years, we both still remember that day. LOL.
I was a witness to something like that when I was about 30. I saw my sensei throw 3 guys, with no aikido background training at all, two karate black belts and one a boxer. My sensei was in a sitting position. They couldn't move him. Once I saw a blind aikido sensei throw other senseis around. I didn't notice he was blind until later that I saw him pick up his dog and dark glasses.
It's a demo not real it is ridiculous that the commentator😮 tries to make out it's for real, later on and MMA fighter being beaten by a wrestler and we are told it's aikido 😂😂😂
Aikido is a defensive martial art that is not designed for fighting. It is fascinating, but unlike Karate, which I used to do, an Aikidoka needs to practice for a decade (even more) to see and feel its effectiveness and fruit of that. The video at 3:30 minutes is indeed prearranged and prepracticed. Honesty is the number one fact in any martial arts.
My uncle is black belt 3rd Dan, and i remember clearly his stories from 10 years ago, about witnessing spar / exchange between aikido masters (japan) and karate masters (japan), its kinda one sided and kinda sad that from that point all i hear from him is to pick aikido as martial arts if you got to pick one. Back then theres still no UFC tho, i honestly think MMA will come out on top vs aikido but who knows
Arranged - that's the point. In aikido you don't have free fights in training. I did judo and aikido. In judo there was always free fight in training, aikido only dance. Sometimes one training after another. Those in aikido assessed the skills of these judokas very poorly. One time the aikido trainer went to spar with a judoka - he happened to be the national champion. I fought him... - the guy was good. This aikidoka was on the mat in half a minute... My friends told me - he just did a throw over his back... - and the other guy didn't know what was happening.
Once, during an aikido training, there was no trainer for about half an hour, so I suggested a randori in pairs - to practice all the techniques they wanted..., but to fight to knock each other over. I transferred this from judo. They had very poor balance - they didn't have to fight for years to keep their balance during training. A slight undercut and they landed on the ground. They didn't know these techniques at all, and theirs were ineffective in my opinion.
@@AlirezaSol whatever martial arts, practice makes perfect. In a real fight, it is different. Depends on the aikido practitioner's capabilities in terms of speed n strength as with other martial arts too.
Some of these scenes ARE choreographed. In most tournaments, they are pretty honest about it, and put it in a category of stylized, rehearsed “demonstration”. But they will also have more authentic competition, where no one is doing that kind of acrobatic stuff. As the great Steve Sanders (Steve Muhammad) used to tell us, “If you’re in an actual street fight and the guy jumps up in the air, you better take his nuts off or don’t bother coming back here.”
I’m a great fan of Aikido, but the comments of this video just hurt. Only in the first 1,5 mins. were over a half a dozen of nonsenses. For example: Christian Tissies “fight” was indeed a demonstration (a really good one as always from him, but), not a real fight.
Having watched combat sports for years and the way real fight movement happens (non-flashy, sometimes chaotic-looking), the match of the two masters is clearly staged, too pretty-looking, almost like in a choreographed movie. A real fight neve looks as good. Totally fake. Rogan, HardTo Hit, and others have searched the internet for proof in the form of a real raw footage of aikido working and without success. I am sure they've seen this one and dismissed as fake.
Indeed...pretty much every real fight, whether it is in a competition or on the street, is usually very messy and often chaotic. Techniques are in fact rarely as clean and clinically executed as those depicted. I am not saying Aikido is good or bad (I actually see the merits of Aikido) but these "fights" just look so staged and choreographed.
you do realize that these AREN'T real fights? they're demonstrations: pre-arranged attacks, in order for the practitioner to demonstrate their techniques. and no, you're not going to find videos of aikido used in real fight scenarios. aikido doesn't include sparring or real-world combat. if that's what you're looking for, try MMA. if you think aikido is phony because nobody's actually fighting, you don't know much about aikido. but maybe you don't care? combat is a perfectly valid thing to train in, but aikido isn't a very good way to do that. Muay Thai is a hell of a lot more realistic.
@@outsidethegarden Yes, Aikido isn't combat. It's a mental exercise visualizing using the force of the opponent against him, so people can do it in real life, such as business decisions etc. I guess you might as well just meditate for similar purposes. But for sure it is not to pull some Seagal stuff, throwing guys into mirrors in the bar.
@@angeloschneider4272 I make you right, but then again, Martial Arts classes do protect the children, providing there not American, god, can they gang up on one person.
Aikido is a beautiful martial art , its technique is mainly for self defence more than on stage combat such as Boxing, Muay Thai, etc ... but its extremely effective. I really love it and would like my children learn it because most people are not professional ring fighters, We learn for physical strength and self defence.
If you watch the first 10 or so episodes of the UFC, you see that BJJ was dominant because it was a mixture of grappling and striking - with the emphasis on grappling and control. Royce Gracie won several bouts from guard. Since then MMA has evolved and no fighter has ever been dominant without a good blend of wrestling/grappling and striking - whether from a boxing, karate, or muay thai background. A number of elite wrestlers who developed their boxing have been successful as well as kick boxers (karate or muay thai) that learned to deal with grappling and submission techniques. No single style is ever going to be able to beat a well rounded mixed martial artist with both a solid striking and ground game.
Aikido sounds great until you take an aikido class and realize that even if you give them your arm and stand there and do nothing, they still struggle to take you down. And then tell you you're being a bad uke and need to cooperate more.
Ah ha ha ,'conditioned response' because the result could be dreadful? This is a real story; I joined a Ninjitsu club, I had a sound background in full contact 'kicky-punchy' stuff plus I must be the most experienced 'white-belt' in ju jitsu as my work would take me around, sometimes I would find a good club, train for a while and have to move on. Anyway, I ended up sparring with the 5th Dan instructor but I hadn't brought sparring gloves and I hadn't seen how they spar? My experience of sparring was a 'give and take' of punches/kicks/elbows/knees with the odd take-down, sad story short, he grabbed my lead hand and pulled a lock on it, SLAM, me down and my elbow wrenched. He apologized for injuring me but no apology necessary, I just wasn't ready for the speed of his technique nor was I 'conditioned' to react as he expected. There's a lot to think about there.
sorry you had a bad experience. most aikido instructors and students acknowledge that the learning curve in aikido takes a LOT more time than other martial arts: it's really not a great choice for self-defense or combat. we joke about it: "grab my wrist. no, with the other hand." so yeah, in the beginning you're working with really simple attacks: telegraphed, simple, no follow-through. no combat realism at all. you're learning how to keep your balance, and begin to be able to use that to harmonize with their attack, and re-direct it. a lot harder (IMO) than just blocking it. but meanwhile, you look really unimpressive. sorry you weren't impressed. hope you got what you were looking for, either in that aikido dojo or some other martial art.
Pinna is actually a great karate master and a real deal but even his confrontation with aikido master looks more like a demo fight and well staged. Compairing to him those shotokan fighers (5:10) were total joke. More likely beginners, who just put black belt on, to look cooler in that video.
Aikido is easy on the eye, and probably effective against drunks or other compliant "victims". There's another guy on UA-cam who was an Aikido teacher who swapped to MMA instead after a sparring session with someone who'd only been doing MMA for only 6 months - the Aikido guy got his arse handed to him. He was man enough to own up to it too. Put an Aikido guy in with a half decent student of another martial art who has serious intentions and see how effective it is then.
@@marc-andrebrun8942 If somebody is punching you then being a nice person won't save you. It's not about behaving like a thug it's about having the ability to deal with a thug
Look up the videos of Ryuji Shirakawa vs MMA where MMA fighters experiences the effectiveness of Aikido techinques for the first time from an Aikido master.
I train Aikido and I can say, there's a fight with respect and a real fight, Aikido uses techniques than can imobilize any attack since the defender have no fear to fight his enemy and throw back his own energy. A real Fighter respect any martial art, no matter If Karate, Jiu-jitsu, muay-thay, MMA. ALL martial art have a Lot to learn. Keep practicing Fighters.
I can say only HAHAHAHAH. I have had a friendly sparing with an aikido friend. Back than I was training shotokan and had an orange belt, he had over 10 years of aikido practice. He was so convinced that aikido is the best and challenged me (first mistake as he should not provoke). I then explained him how I'm gonna attack. I used one of the most visible and plain karate trust -> oi tsuki jodan. I shouted it at him and asked him for his readiness. He responded that he is ready. The result was, he did not manage to move at all, and my fist was touching his nose. He needed several seconds to understand what happened and what would have happened if I did not stop. The result was that he started learning Karate (Kiokoshin :-D)
this is probably the dumbest "Challenges" videos ive ever seen. In no way shape or form would a full contact Karate person who isnt pulling kicks or punches ever have an issue with an in tight stand up Aikido person. The guy with the goggles is a prime example, he just walks in to light pulled punches and does an Aikido throw like he has just walked into a kids playground. if they punch him in the face hard, he wouldnt be just casually walking up to them. Having the big bird man Segal the sea-gull just clothesline people magically running past with their hands down and through his shoulder and not changing their line of movement at all, makes it even funnier.
It is always funny to see the aikido technique being performed not with some sort of athletic effort, like in combat sports, but with casual walking and it beating all the other athletic effort.
If Aikido were that effective, all law enforcement would be using it😢. However, like Rener Gracie said, “use what you can do, not what you wish to do”.
actually, no. your first sentence explains why: this isn't actually aikido, for a lot of these matches. so it's definitely not "propaganda." unless you're clueless about aikido.
Of course aikido isn’t ‘the best’. I think the whole ‘the best’ mindset is a little ridiculous unless you’re looking to be a professional fighter.. Also generally on the street, people with legitimate martial art experience don’t go around looking for fights. So if all you’re looking for is a de-escalating -especially with some jerk who’s trying to cause trouble, then it is sufficient 👍
Yes. Like WWF, rehearsed for sure. Why? I guess, for purposes of exhibition & longevity/health. You can see obvious the Karate dude 1:27 rolling along the throw.. you can’t do that in a real Aikido throw unless rehearsed. I trained Aikido back then when I was young though only for short period (white) and you’ll be surprised that part of beginners training is learning how to roll along the throw in various techniques.. because if you don’t, it can cause serious injury /fracture during sparring or match. Those Steven Segal stuff & modern masters today are obviously for shows. If you like real ones, have to go back some more decades black & white films.
Try it to challenge aikido master you will have broken wrist, legs, ankles and neck.You will need an. orthopedic to put you together but you will never be the same again😢
When Steven Segal is tossing everyone around like feathers, and they walk up to get their turn at going airborne, it reminds me of those martial arts schools, where some sensei is touching people with one finger, and they crumble to the ground, as if knocked out cold. But when scheduled in a sparring fight with an outsider, with a different style, they seem to get rocked, and are usually left staggering in place. Way too much hype added!! "Mucha crema en los tacos" (Too much sour cream added to the tacos)
these are two different criticisms of aikido (or other martial arts on UA-cam): a demo involves pre-arranged attacks, and the point is to demonstrate ("demo") how a technique works. is it realistic? maybe, maybe not. Seagal can be pretty convincing: he's doing the same technique here, over and over, and the only way to avoid having him take you down (or take your head off) would be to back away. but then he'd probably come after you, at which point you'd better know some MMA or similar grappling art. and some videos involve minimal physical engagement, so the attackers seem to just fall down on their own. this can be pre-arranged (or even deceptive), or it can actually involve them losing their balance. you can't really tell unless you can take a fall from that instructor, and decide for yourself. You Tube know-it-alls are fond of dismissing these videos as "phony." sometimes they probably are.
Aikido is efficient, if aikido will be fusioned with taichi and judo and bjj and hapkido, can be mortal in all senses. A respectful defensive and antiofensive martial art aikido is truly. 💙💙💙💙💙
Aikido and Judo, as laudable as they are, just like mainstream Karate (I exclude Okinawan styles) are all off-shoots from Jiu Jitsu (so is Brazilian Ju Jitsu). Both Judo and Aikido are 'low alcohol' derivatives of real martial styles, deliberately 'sanitized' by their founders. Jigoro Kano and Morhei Ueshiba created these styles from something suitable to the battlefield, in a sense they removed the violence to be replaced with perfect form and a 'way' of defense that was not destructive. I applaud their aims and respect anybody who trains honestly with a good heart. But let me be clear, Judo, Aikido, Karate-do...anything that ends with 'do' is a way (to enlightenment etc) and is not a traditional martial art, in fact it is not a martial art at-all, it just looks like one Jiu jitsu is the mother of all these 'arts' and war is the Father; wearing armor on a battlefield, break or lose your weapon, the fight went on. or you died. I have nothing against, for instance, Judokas, I imagine getting picked up and dumped head-first into the pavement would result in a quick apology (if I was able) and likewise Aikido practitioners, my respect, that being said there is no way you can claim a lethal martial art. While I'm at it, let's see who else I might insult or impugn? Any fighting art, big difference from a ring with timed rounds and referee plus paramedics in attendance, take the gloves off, no rounds, kill or be killed, nothing is 'off the table', just like a real fight, nothing like Tae Kwon Do persons breaking wooden boards that would fall apart if dropped. Oh don't get me started about 'martial arts fakery'...... 'ef sake, one of the worst is breaking a long pole over the back of the 'shaolin monk' (for real, I have taken a baseball bat in the abdomen, knew it was coming, braced/tensed, took it but I remember the sting, baseball bat mark on me for about three weeks), so these charlatans show what the long pole can do, AT LENGTH, then they strike the invulnerable monk across the back with the same long pole, about half way between the point of balance and the rest of the weight of the pole, at it's end it's travelling fast, up close 'naah', not even fast but will break because the pole cannot take the kinetic energy from the end being disrupted with his enormous 'ki', horse-shit, simple physics. So you might ask, what does my opinion matter? Well 'eff -all if you can't admit the truth of it. All I will say about myself, I too was once that guy punching air, thinking I was brilliant, I moved on...
In fighting anything can happen. I worked with a guy years ago who took Karate and ended up with a yellow belt. Thing was, he was in a bar and his Karate didn't work (stools and such). So he left it and hit the gym. I myself like many watching this took Karate for a good few years, I learned what might and might not work. I was blessed with good Senseis who knew how too fight, not just do Kata. Your comment is spot on, but sometimes Karate can work. That being said, just cause it can work doesn't mean it will work for the guy at the bar. Peace
I like aikido, but not because I watched Segal's films. I think that aikido is 100% defensive and is not designed to attack, but what I don't like is that the sparring partners are too passive and don't allow for the evolution of the art of aikido.
Such passive compliance/cooperation can raise doubt about effectiveness in real competition or real-life defense, although I understand that it demonstrates aspects of the art form.
@@fred_2021yes the demos look fake I assure you it's a real art. I used to practice with Chun Lee a Korean master in Hapkido. It's very much the same art.
You should practice Tomiki aikido then, because there is sparring and tournament. I started learning it after taking my black belt in aikikai aikido and judo.
there is a reason for that : in Aïkido we don't like to waste time in fighting! when you spent 2 hours in the dojo, half of the time you really work and learn, and half time you help you partners to learn. there is no categories or division, everybody can work together : beginner with black belt, man with woman, old with young, tall with small and so on; it's the real life, you always learn something! during the fights in others martial art, we have a total waste of time, nobody is learning anything. fights are for children who like that!
Where were they at the 2024 Olympic games? Most of the technics described were in fact wrestling, grappling techniques. If I recall, NatGeo did comparison of kick power and Karate came at the bottom….
Not so fast. MMA is a sport, it is not totally real. In a real fight, you can’t be 150 lbs and the guy who wants to fight you weighs 230 and say “Well let’s come back in couple months so we can make weight.” You don’t have to take your shoes off or wear a mouthpiece. In a real fight, people bite, eye gouge, kick you when you’re down, and there is no referee to stop those. There is no rule against your opponent pulling out a knife and stabbing you, having a friend who smashes you over the head with a rock, a brick, or a club. There is nothing that says an opponent can’t slam you into a wall or hit you with a beer bottle. In a real fight, the best move is to avoid one and find other ways to resolve the problem. A real fight can mean your life if you run into the wrong person.
this is mere exhibition, people who had seen real combat knows how each hit goes, speed + intensity will unbalance any block or deflection and not only that, a grab will send you both sprawling on the floor, the opponent will not sushi roll himself on the ground
The leverage is real ive trained a little with a guy trained in it but if you are a grappler you arent going to get caught in those shoulder/wrist locks they use in order to control you
As much as I like to see different martial arts interacting with each other. The Aikido “master” and the Karate practitioners had me laughing, especially when I saw this Whopper (6:24) of a sensei for the ”hajime”. Let any of these “masters” have a round with a Kyokushin Kaikan black belt (or “master”) and we talk again.
The sparring looks fake but asure you it is a real art i used to practice with Chun Lee a Korean master in Hapkido. I asked him of he understood Akido he said yes. The two are very much alike.
4:10 I can even see somehow the aikido guy having success with the karate guy, but it would never be in such a fashion like here, him flying like a madman like in an early Seagal movie. It would be some sort of more boring-to-watch neutralizing the opponent thing, perhaps with hugging involved.
Aikido has been proven has completely ineffective in combat, thats why NO notable UFC fighter EVER has ever been an Aikido practitioner. All great MMA fighters are typically wrestlers, kickboxers, judokas, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu practitioners.
One thing people don't understand about any fight type of sport is that the faster better reflects fighter will most likely win it doesn't matter how much you train or know if you get a guy that has great reflects and is faster than you he going to make you bad lol
Any martial art is great when your opponent stands there or charges at you stupidly and lets you throw him around. Aikido has its good points, but it requires, much as many other forms of martial art, a combination of elements from other martial arts to function as a more well grounded discipline useful in many situations rather than a specific one or few.
As a former collegiate wrestler at 197 pounds, I had the opp to square off with an aikido master as he was kind enough to oblige me. I kept him front and center and moved as he moved which frustrated him and eventually shot, picked him up, slammed him to the ground, double-arm barred him, and pinned him. Nothing at all he could do but bow.
None of these people appear to be a master of anything. Aikido was taken from a jui jitsu style focused on defence against an opponent with a sword, not the modern jui jitsu most people know. That is why it's largely ineffective, because it only works in one context and that is an armoured attacker with a sword. But it appears aikido has forgotten that too
When you see MMA fighters being introduced, they seem to come from backgrounds in either Brazilian jiu jitsu, wrestling, judo, karate, wushu, muai thai, kickboxing and a few others, but none from aikido.
Well, the difference in the tell from the fake ones is that they have been practicing a long time correctly. Of course you won't see anything from the outside. So therefore it is hard to tell the difference from the beginner and a very good skilled.
Where do you think Aikido came from? It's watered down from Jui Jitsu and Judo because Morihei Ueshiba, the founder of Aikido, was a Zen Buddhist who believed in non-violence.
Ueshiba was not a Zen Buddhist, For many years he was a follower of Omotekyo, and in his later years he was more Shinto. He did not believe in non-violence, and nor was he a complete pacifist, even though he did want to promote peace.
That's not traditional karate, though. It is sport karate and has little to do with the original art. I am not saying sport karate is bad, by the way. Just classical karate is fought differently, with less striking and kicking and more trapping, locking, clinching, and takedowns.
So many wrong statement in this video. It was super cringe. I respect aikido and I find the martial art actually really good. But this video is just horrible. All fake and nonsense. I can provide actual videos of actual aikido masters in an actual spar. More than half of this video was from a demonstration which is not a spar. It's their partner actually letting the aikido techniques happen, but they make it look like it's a real fight scenario.
To all the clowns here that have never attempted a martial art let alone stepped foot into a dojo you know nothing but what Hollywood tells you. Most of which is all choreographed and meant to favor whoever looks tougher. Never taking into account actual technique. I once brought someone to the ground that was twice my size with one aikido technique. Needless to say he never messed with me again. Educate yourself before talking like you know better
Is this ai generated? I’d like to see a prime Dolph Lundgren, Andy Hug, Michael Jai White and/or Lyoto Machida have a full contact fight against those aikido practitioners next. Just as to see how effective aikido truly is against karate.
There are two different types of aikido. There's the woo woo mystical nonsense version where you get the videos of aikido people embarrassing themselves and there's the practical version that focuses on things that actually work. Both are steeped in traditional practices so don't be surprised if you can tell which is which at first glance. It's also important to remember that no single martial arts style is all you need. Aikido is a good addition to a diverse martial arts skill set, but definitely not the only thing you need.
salut . there are no better or worse fighting styles, just fighters with different abilities. and perhaps there are fighting styles with more or less restrictions.
Why so people always run head first into the aikido guy? Put your guard up, be responsiv, be flexible, they just throw themself into the aikido guys power. Ridiculous.
there wasn't any real fight in the whole video. Try putting together 10 serious boxe vs aikido, muay thai vs aikido, mma vs aikido. I could understand a judo comparison, as judo only lacks defense against strikes, but once solved the issue it's matter of "if the strikers ko's the judoka first, else he's dead"
Utter nonsense. When I practised karate, a fellow student was an Akido black belt, and whilst he was good at sweeps and throws, he certainly couldn’t simply avoid the punches and kicks I threw at him!
When I was a kid, I came across an article about Aikido in a magazine. It was a brief, high-level introduction, but I was immediately fascinated. Excited, I shared my newfound discovery with my cousin. Curious, he asked me what Aikido was all about. I told him it was simple-just draw circles in the air with your arms!
He was skeptical, of course, and to prove his point, he punched me in the face without warning. Instinctively, I waved my arm in a circle, and to both of our surprise, I ended up throwing him into the air, his feet up and head down! He hit the ground hard, landing on his head. It almost knocked him out, and he cried like a girl.
It was one of the most glorious moments of my life, and even after forty some years, we both still remember that day. LOL.
Nice story, gramps. Make it more believable next time.
I was a witness to something like that when I was about 30. I saw my sensei throw 3 guys, with no aikido background training at all, two karate black belts and one a boxer. My sensei was in a sitting position. They couldn't move him. Once I saw a blind aikido sensei throw other senseis around. I didn't notice he was blind until later that I saw him pick up his dog and dark glasses.
Pina stopped temperarily, extended his right arm so that the Aikido master could grab him! Watch it carefully @ 1:20 - 1:22 😂
Um, no he grabbed the left arm to perform the throw.
It's a demo not real it is ridiculous that the commentator😮 tries to make out it's for real, later on and MMA fighter being beaten by a wrestler and we are told it's aikido 😂😂😂
Aikido is a defensive martial art that is not designed for fighting. It is fascinating, but unlike Karate, which I used to do, an Aikidoka needs to practice for a decade (even more) to see and feel its effectiveness and fruit of that. The video at 3:30 minutes is indeed prearranged and prepracticed. Honesty is the number one fact in any martial arts.
Wasn't it originally only intended as a complementary style for people who already had black-belts in Jiu Jitsu?
My uncle is black belt 3rd Dan, and i remember clearly his stories from 10 years ago, about witnessing spar / exchange between aikido masters (japan) and karate masters (japan), its kinda one sided and kinda sad that from that point all i hear from him is to pick aikido as martial arts if you got to pick one. Back then theres still no UFC tho, i honestly think MMA will come out on top vs aikido but who knows
Arranged - that's the point. In aikido you don't have free fights in training. I did judo and aikido. In judo there was always free fight in training, aikido only dance. Sometimes one training after another. Those in aikido assessed the skills of these judokas very poorly. One time the aikido trainer went to spar with a judoka - he happened to be the national champion. I fought him... - the guy was good. This aikidoka was on the mat in half a minute... My friends told me - he just did a throw over his back... - and the other guy didn't know what was happening.
Once, during an aikido training, there was no trainer for about half an hour, so I suggested a randori in pairs - to practice all the techniques they wanted..., but to fight to knock each other over. I transferred this from judo. They had very poor balance - they didn't have to fight for years to keep their balance during training. A slight undercut and they landed on the ground. They didn't know these techniques at all, and theirs were ineffective in my opinion.
@@AlirezaSol whatever martial arts, practice makes perfect. In a real fight, it is different. Depends on the aikido practitioner's capabilities in terms of speed n strength as with other martial arts too.
This video is crap. Nothing but one sided aikido story
Some of these scenes ARE choreographed. In most tournaments, they are pretty honest about it, and put it in a category of stylized, rehearsed “demonstration”. But they will also have more authentic competition, where no one is doing that kind of acrobatic stuff. As the great Steve Sanders (Steve Muhammad) used to tell us, “If you’re in an actual street fight and the guy jumps up in the air, you better take his nuts off or don’t bother coming back here.”
Sure
We don’t just punch and kick in Karate-Do and we possess techniques Aikido uses 👌🏽
I’m a great fan of Aikido, but the comments of this video just hurt. Only in the first 1,5 mins. were over a half a dozen of nonsenses. For example: Christian Tissies “fight” was indeed a demonstration (a really good one as always from him, but), not a real fight.
Having watched combat sports for years and the way real fight movement happens (non-flashy, sometimes chaotic-looking), the match of the two masters is clearly staged, too pretty-looking, almost like in a choreographed movie. A real fight neve looks as good. Totally fake.
Rogan, HardTo Hit, and others have searched the internet for proof in the form of a real raw footage of aikido working and without success. I am sure they've seen this one and dismissed as fake.
Indeed...pretty much every real fight, whether it is in a competition or on the street, is usually very messy and often chaotic. Techniques are in fact rarely as clean and clinically executed as those depicted. I am not saying Aikido is good or bad (I actually see the merits of Aikido) but these "fights" just look so staged and choreographed.
you do realize that these AREN'T real fights? they're demonstrations: pre-arranged attacks, in order for the practitioner to demonstrate their techniques.
and no, you're not going to find videos of aikido used in real fight scenarios. aikido doesn't include sparring or real-world combat. if that's what you're looking for, try MMA. if you think aikido is phony because nobody's actually fighting, you don't know much about aikido. but maybe you don't care? combat is a perfectly valid thing to train in, but aikido isn't a very good way to do that. Muay Thai is a hell of a lot more realistic.
@@outsidethegarden Yes, Aikido isn't combat. It's a mental exercise visualizing using the force of the opponent against him, so people can do it in real life, such as business decisions etc. I guess you might as well just meditate for similar purposes. But for sure it is not to pull some Seagal stuff, throwing guys into mirrors in the bar.
It's called DEMO.
Pinna and Tissier were doing a fast-paced demo.
Aikido is beautiful... graceful and balanced... like a dance... and no one gets hurt... (?)...
much more "Art" than "martial-art"...
If we were in Middle-Earth, Aikido would be an Elven Martial Art!!!!!
Most likely not. They would use Kenjutsu and the related Taijutsu stuff. Similar to Aikido: but not the same.
@@angeloschneider4272 I make you right, but then again, Martial Arts classes do protect the children, providing there not American, god, can they gang up on one person.
Aikido is a beautiful martial art , its technique is mainly for self defence more than on stage combat such as Boxing, Muay Thai, etc ... but its extremely effective. I really love it and would like my children learn it because most people are not professional ring fighters, We learn for physical strength and self defence.
If you watch the first 10 or so episodes of the UFC, you see that BJJ was dominant because it was a mixture of grappling and striking - with the emphasis on grappling and control. Royce Gracie won several bouts from guard. Since then MMA has evolved and no fighter has ever been dominant without a good blend of wrestling/grappling and striking - whether from a boxing, karate, or muay thai background. A number of elite wrestlers who developed their boxing have been successful as well as kick boxers (karate or muay thai) that learned to deal with grappling and submission techniques. No single style is ever going to be able to beat a well rounded mixed martial artist with both a solid striking and ground game.
Aikido sounds great until you take an aikido class and realize that even if you give them your arm and stand there and do nothing, they still struggle to take you down. And then tell you you're being a bad uke and need to cooperate more.
Ah ha ha ,'conditioned response' because the result could be dreadful? This is a real story; I joined a Ninjitsu club, I had a sound background in full contact 'kicky-punchy' stuff plus I must be the most experienced 'white-belt' in ju jitsu as my work would take me around, sometimes I would find a good club, train for a while and have to move on.
Anyway, I ended up sparring with the 5th Dan instructor but I hadn't brought sparring gloves and I hadn't seen how they spar? My experience of sparring was a 'give and take' of punches/kicks/elbows/knees with the odd take-down, sad story short, he grabbed my lead hand and pulled a lock on it, SLAM, me down and my elbow wrenched.
He apologized for injuring me but no apology necessary, I just wasn't ready for the speed of his technique nor was I 'conditioned' to react as he expected. There's a lot to think about there.
Because, if the aikidoist moves as fast as in real combat, your arm would be broken in several places.
Exactly my experience!
sorry you had a bad experience. most aikido instructors and students acknowledge that the learning curve in aikido takes a LOT more time than other martial arts: it's really not a great choice for self-defense or combat. we joke about it: "grab my wrist. no, with the other hand."
so yeah, in the beginning you're working with really simple attacks: telegraphed, simple, no follow-through. no combat realism at all. you're learning how to keep your balance, and begin to be able to use that to harmonize with their attack, and re-direct it. a lot harder (IMO) than just blocking it.
but meanwhile, you look really unimpressive. sorry you weren't impressed. hope you got what you were looking for, either in that aikido dojo or some other martial art.
“Stand and do nothing” from aikido perspective there is no need to do anything in this case, no force is applied, nothing to work with
I can’t see any karate master nor any real black belt in this video😂😂😂
Pinna is actually a great karate master and a real deal but even his confrontation with aikido master looks more like a demo fight and well staged. Compairing to him those shotokan fighers (5:10) were total joke. More likely beginners, who just put black belt on, to look cooler in that video.
@@lauribirkan6367 I totally agree with you especially about Pinna: his "fight" with Tissier is really too clean to be real: totally choreographed.
Aikido is easy on the eye, and probably effective against drunks or other compliant "victims". There's another guy on UA-cam who was an Aikido teacher who swapped to MMA instead after a sparring session with someone who'd only been doing MMA for only 6 months - the Aikido guy got his arse handed to him. He was man enough to own up to it too.
Put an Aikido guy in with a half decent student of another martial art who has serious intentions and see how effective it is then.
if you want to behave like a thug in the life, of course aïkido isn't the best way!
@@marc-andrebrun8942what does it mean to behave like a thug?
@@gabrielorellana6544 looking for trouble
@@marc-andrebrun8942 If somebody is punching you then being a nice person won't save you. It's not about behaving like a thug it's about having the ability to deal with a thug
Look up the videos of Ryuji Shirakawa vs MMA where MMA fighters experiences the effectiveness of Aikido techinques for the first time from an Aikido master.
I train Aikido and I can say, there's a fight with respect and a real fight, Aikido uses techniques than can imobilize any attack since the defender have no fear to fight his enemy and throw back his own energy. A real Fighter respect any martial art, no matter If Karate, Jiu-jitsu, muay-thay, MMA. ALL martial art have a Lot to learn. Keep practicing Fighters.
I can say only HAHAHAHAH.
I have had a friendly sparing with an aikido friend. Back than I was training shotokan and had an orange belt, he had over 10 years of aikido practice. He was so convinced that aikido is the best and challenged me (first mistake as he should not provoke). I then explained him how I'm gonna attack. I used one of the most visible and plain karate trust -> oi tsuki jodan. I shouted it at him and asked him for his readiness. He responded that he is ready. The result was, he did not manage to move at all, and my fist was touching his nose. He needed several seconds to understand what happened and what would have happened if I did not stop. The result was that he started learning Karate (Kiokoshin :-D)
this is probably the dumbest "Challenges" videos ive ever seen. In no way shape or form would a full contact Karate person who isnt pulling kicks or punches ever have an issue with an in tight stand up Aikido person. The guy with the goggles is a prime example, he just walks in to light pulled punches and does an Aikido throw like he has just walked into a kids playground. if they punch him in the face hard, he wouldnt be just casually walking up to them. Having the big bird man Segal the sea-gull just clothesline people magically running past with their hands down and through his shoulder and not changing their line of movement at all, makes it even funnier.
It is always funny to see the aikido technique being performed not with some sort of athletic effort, like in combat sports, but with casual walking and it beating all the other athletic effort.
If Aikido were that effective, all law enforcement would be using it😢. However, like Rener Gracie said, “use what you can do, not what you wish to do”.
Aikido and Jiujitsu locks and holds are very similar as Aikido came from Jiujitsu sources.
Law enforcement does learn Aikido for the wrist locks and immobilizations.
Aikido guy using kicks, and a shooto fight claiming a karate master and Aikido master. Umm ok This is a propaganda video for Aikido
actually, no. your first sentence explains why: this isn't actually aikido, for a lot of these matches. so it's definitely not "propaganda." unless you're clueless about aikido.
Of course aikido isn’t ‘the best’. I think the whole ‘the best’ mindset is a little ridiculous unless you’re looking to be a professional fighter..
Also generally on the street, people with legitimate martial art experience don’t go around looking for fights. So if all you’re looking for is a de-escalating -especially with some jerk who’s trying to cause trouble, then it is sufficient 👍
From my personal experoence I can tell that, our aim is less to defeat an enemy and more to conquer our body through discipline and respect.
I felt second-hand embarrassment watching these fights
Looks so fake
Quanto ti piacerebbe…
Thats very fake😂
@@ykhoddamkhorasanivuoi testare?
Yes. Like WWF, rehearsed for sure. Why? I guess, for purposes of exhibition & longevity/health. You can see obvious the Karate dude 1:27 rolling along the throw.. you can’t do that in a real Aikido throw unless rehearsed. I trained Aikido back then when I was young though only for short period (white) and you’ll be surprised that part of beginners training is learning how to roll along the throw in various techniques.. because if you don’t, it can cause serious injury /fracture during sparring or match. Those Steven Segal stuff & modern masters today are obviously for shows. If you like real ones, have to go back some more decades black & white films.
Try it to challenge aikido master you will have broken wrist, legs, ankles and neck.You will need an. orthopedic to put you together but you will never be the same again😢
When Steven Segal is tossing everyone around like feathers, and they walk up to get their turn at going airborne, it reminds me of those martial arts schools, where some sensei is touching people with one finger, and they crumble to the ground, as if knocked out cold. But when scheduled in a sparring fight with an outsider, with a different style, they seem to get rocked, and are usually left staggering in place.
Way too much hype added!!
"Mucha crema en los tacos" (Too much sour cream added to the tacos)
especially when he pledges allegiance to his new master, a judoka Putin:)
Segal was insulting Van Dame so Van Dame challenged Segal & Segal ran away like a scared little girl
@@BBBYpsi yea, I can believe Segal is scared of ageing ballerinas:)
these are two different criticisms of aikido (or other martial arts on UA-cam):
a demo involves pre-arranged attacks, and the point is to demonstrate ("demo") how a technique works. is it realistic? maybe, maybe not. Seagal can be pretty convincing: he's doing the same technique here, over and over, and the only way to avoid having him take you down (or take your head off) would be to back away. but then he'd probably come after you, at which point you'd better know some MMA or similar grappling art.
and some videos involve minimal physical engagement, so the attackers seem to just fall down on their own. this can be pre-arranged (or even deceptive), or it can actually involve them losing their balance. you can't really tell unless you can take a fall from that instructor, and decide for yourself. You Tube know-it-alls are fond of dismissing these videos as "phony." sometimes they probably are.
Aikido is efficient, if aikido will be fusioned with taichi and judo and bjj and hapkido, can be mortal in all senses.
A respectful defensive and antiofensive martial art aikido is truly.
💙💙💙💙💙
Aikido and Judo, as laudable as they are, just like mainstream Karate (I exclude Okinawan styles) are all off-shoots from Jiu Jitsu (so is Brazilian Ju Jitsu).
Both Judo and Aikido are 'low alcohol' derivatives of real martial styles, deliberately 'sanitized' by their founders. Jigoro Kano and Morhei Ueshiba created these styles from something suitable to the battlefield, in a sense they removed the violence to be replaced with perfect form and a 'way' of defense that was not destructive. I applaud their aims and respect anybody who trains honestly with a good heart. But let me be clear, Judo, Aikido, Karate-do...anything that ends with 'do' is a way (to enlightenment etc) and is not a traditional martial art, in fact it is not a martial art at-all, it just looks like one Jiu jitsu is the mother of all these 'arts' and war is the Father; wearing armor on a battlefield, break or lose your weapon, the fight went on. or you died.
I have nothing against, for instance, Judokas, I imagine getting picked up and dumped head-first into the pavement would result in a quick apology (if I was able) and likewise Aikido practitioners, my respect, that being said there is no way you can claim a lethal martial art. While I'm at it, let's see who else I might insult or impugn? Any fighting art, big difference from a ring with timed rounds and referee plus paramedics in attendance, take the gloves off, no rounds, kill or be killed, nothing is 'off the table', just like a real fight, nothing like Tae Kwon Do persons breaking wooden boards that would fall apart if dropped. Oh don't get me started about 'martial arts fakery'......
'ef sake, one of the worst is breaking a long pole over the back of the 'shaolin monk' (for real, I have taken a baseball bat in the abdomen, knew it was coming, braced/tensed, took it but I remember the sting, baseball bat mark on me for about three weeks), so these charlatans show what the long pole can do, AT LENGTH, then they strike the invulnerable monk across the back with the same long pole, about half way between the point of balance and the rest of the weight of the pole, at it's end it's travelling fast, up close 'naah', not even fast but will break because the pole cannot take the kinetic energy from the end being disrupted with his enormous 'ki', horse-shit, simple physics.
So you might ask, what does my opinion matter? Well 'eff -all if you can't admit the truth of it. All I will say about myself, I too was once that guy punching air, thinking I was brilliant, I moved on...
Straight up, real talk!! Thank You!!
In fighting anything can happen. I worked with a guy years ago who took Karate and ended up with a yellow belt. Thing was, he was in a bar and his Karate didn't work (stools and such). So he left it and hit the gym. I myself like many watching this took Karate for a good few years, I learned what might and might not work. I was blessed with good Senseis who knew how too fight, not just do Kata. Your comment is spot on, but sometimes Karate can work. That being said, just cause it can work doesn't mean it will work for the guy at the bar. Peace
Judo has my respect.
I like aikido, but not because I watched Segal's films. I think that aikido is 100% defensive and is not designed to attack, but what I don't like is that the sparring partners are too passive and don't allow for the evolution of the art of aikido.
Such passive compliance/cooperation can raise doubt about effectiveness in real competition or real-life defense, although I understand that it demonstrates aspects of the art form.
@@fred_2021yes the demos look fake I assure you it's a real art. I used to practice with Chun Lee a Korean master in Hapkido. It's very much the same art.
@@BrianG-x4u I'm sure of that. The beauty of these demos and kata is captivating, even to this non-practitioner.
You should practice Tomiki aikido then, because there is sparring and tournament. I started learning it after taking my black belt in aikikai aikido and judo.
there is a reason for that : in Aïkido we don't like to waste time in fighting!
when you spent 2 hours in the dojo, half of the time you really work and learn, and half time you help you partners to learn.
there is no categories or division, everybody can work together : beginner with black belt, man with woman, old with young, tall with small and so on; it's the real life, you always learn something!
during the fights in others martial art, we have a total waste of time, nobody is learning anything.
fights are for children who like that!
Where were they at the 2024 Olympic games?
Most of the technics described were in fact wrestling, grappling techniques.
If I recall, NatGeo did comparison of kick power and Karate came at the bottom….
You can see from MMA now what real fighting looks like when two highly trained martial artists go at it! Nothing like this!
Not so fast. MMA is a sport, it is not totally real. In a real fight, you can’t be 150 lbs and the guy who wants to fight you weighs 230 and say “Well let’s come back in couple months so we can make weight.” You don’t have to take your shoes off or wear a mouthpiece. In a real fight, people bite, eye gouge, kick you when you’re down, and there is no referee to stop those. There is no rule against your opponent pulling out a knife and stabbing you, having a friend who smashes you over the head with a rock, a brick, or a club. There is nothing that says an opponent can’t slam you into a wall or hit you with a beer bottle. In a real fight, the best move is to avoid one and find other ways to resolve the problem. A real fight can mean your life if you run into the wrong person.
Nah! These Aikido matches look staged. When it is too perfect and clean it's likely staged.
A bit like the whole video :-)
this is mere exhibition, people who had seen real combat knows how each hit goes, speed + intensity will unbalance any block or deflection and not only that, a grab will send you both sprawling on the floor, the opponent will not sushi roll himself on the ground
These matches are choreographed. There's no pressure testing. This is why you never see aikido in an MMA fight.
MMA is a combination of mixed martial arts. Wing Chun, Muaythai, and Aikido is a very good combination.
Aikido is for speed, karate is for strength.
The leverage is real ive trained a little with a guy trained in it but if you are a grappler you arent going to get caught in those shoulder/wrist locks they use in order to control you
The most misunderstood art is Aikido. It's neither about offense or defense. It is essence of all martial art.
Everyone thinks they are an Aikido master until they get kicked in the face.
😅😂😅😂🤣🤣 Lmfao! Is this for real?!
Always helps when opponents cooperate.
In a real fight, aikido is good at finishing off a fight after starting with blocks and punches, with the occasional low kick=jujitsu
I sure you know Steven Seagal is a aikdo master. Lol.
Well thats one way to take dance lessons
As much as I like to see different martial arts interacting with each other.
The Aikido “master” and the Karate practitioners had me laughing, especially when I saw this Whopper (6:24) of a sensei for the ”hajime”.
Let any of these “masters” have a round with a Kyokushin Kaikan black belt (or “master”) and we talk again.
The sparring looks fake but asure you it is a real art i used to practice with Chun Lee a Korean master in Hapkido. I asked him of he understood Akido he said yes. The two are very much alike.
You are full of shit ...I assure you
What is the name of the Aikido Master starting from 3:30 and ending at 4:11?🙏🏾
That bloke was wearing glasses😂
When I was a kid, I also belived in santa claus. You can believe this if you wish, but don't go into a streetfight with this as you backup.
4:10 I can even see somehow the aikido guy having success with the karate guy, but it would never be in such a fashion like here, him flying like a madman like in an early Seagal movie. It would be some sort of more boring-to-watch neutralizing the opponent thing, perhaps with hugging involved.
fake
The 1998 supposed duel with someone named Christian Tissier at the beginning of this is an obvious exhibition.
I acknowledge the weaknesses of AiKiDo and accept that it might well be "the worst", but y'all have never felt a tekubi-osae.
It seems the only people who believe aikido works in real fight are the ones who have never been in a fight and failed physics at school.
This was completely cooperative
Aikido is poetry. Nothing else.
Martial Arts
Old Days One Kick One Punch End Of
Aikido has been proven has completely ineffective in combat, thats why NO notable UFC fighter EVER has ever been an Aikido practitioner. All great MMA fighters are typically wrestlers, kickboxers, judokas, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu practitioners.
aikido the art to intercept legs kick,punches, but you need to practice for years and practice in the street fights too
I have had a MMA school. There's a reason There's no Aikido school. Not disrespecting the art... just too narrow of an application.
next is a video of an actual MMA heavyweight champion getting wrecked by a 70 year old tai chi master
One thing people don't understand about any fight type of sport is that the faster better reflects fighter will most likely win it doesn't matter how much you train or know if you get a guy that has great reflects and is faster than you he going to make you bad lol
Clearly MMA will beat any traditional martial art.
Any martial art is great when your opponent stands there or charges at you stupidly and lets you throw him around. Aikido has its good points, but it requires, much as many other forms of martial art, a combination of elements from other martial arts to function as a more well grounded discipline useful in many situations rather than a specific one or few.
Most people DON'T understand the Karateka have too dive Forward or his arm breaks.
The aikido vs karate looks like they're rehearsing for an act.
Aikido vs Muaythai in real street fight will be interesting 😁
As a former collegiate wrestler at 197 pounds, I had the opp to square off with an aikido master as he was kind enough to oblige me. I kept him front and center and moved as he moved which frustrated him and eventually shot, picked him up, slammed him to the ground, double-arm barred him, and pinned him. Nothing at all he could do but bow.
None of these people appear to be a master of anything. Aikido was taken from a jui jitsu style focused on defence against an opponent with a sword, not the modern jui jitsu most people know. That is why it's largely ineffective, because it only works in one context and that is an armoured attacker with a sword. But it appears aikido has forgotten that too
Not much better than WWF. So orchestrated and clown show. 😂😅
When you see MMA fighters being introduced, they seem to come from backgrounds in either Brazilian jiu jitsu, wrestling, judo, karate, wushu, muai thai, kickboxing and a few others, but none from aikido.
because aikido is known (especially by aikidoka) to not be oriented towards combat or sparring.
Aikido could be effective if used as an accompanying martial art to another style. Probably better with a hard as the primary weapon.
Da li je ovo prava borba ili dogovoreni sparing ?
Aikido= hypnotism
lol. no, actually not. but criticizing videos on You Tube? yeah, that looks a lot like self-hypnosis.
Aikido comes in many forms/diffirent schools. Some good and effective, some fun/hollywood action and some forms are horrible.
Well, the difference in the tell from the fake ones is that they have been practicing a long time correctly. Of course you won't see anything from the outside. So therefore it is hard to tell the difference from the beginner and a very good skilled.
Where do you think Aikido came from? It's watered down from Jui Jitsu and Judo because Morihei Ueshiba, the founder of Aikido, was a Zen Buddhist who believed in non-violence.
Ueshiba was not a Zen Buddhist, For many years he was a follower of Omotekyo, and in his later years he was more Shinto. He did not believe in non-violence, and nor was he a complete pacifist, even though he did want to promote peace.
Ого, неужели в кои-то веки видео без насмешек в адрес айкидо? Спасибо
Should try this with a bareknuckle boxer.
That's not traditional karate, though. It is sport karate and has little to do with the original art. I am not saying sport karate is bad, by the way. Just classical karate is fought differently, with less striking and kicking and more trapping, locking, clinching, and takedowns.
Aikido is an M.A. Ballet
As an Aidoka, Seagal is a disgrace
Imagine Pereira using Steven Seagal's aikido. He would be deranked to the bottom. 😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂
THE VERY BEGINNING, WATCH THE GUY ATTACKING, NEVER REALLY ATTACKS, SIMPLY STICKS HIS NECK OUT TO BE HIT WITH ARMS DOWN. i'm callin bullshit
So many wrong statement in this video. It was super cringe. I respect aikido and I find the martial art actually really good. But this video is just horrible. All fake and nonsense. I can provide actual videos of actual aikido masters in an actual spar. More than half of this video was from a demonstration which is not a spar. It's their partner actually letting the aikido techniques happen, but they make it look like it's a real fight scenario.
When I was a child I learned Judo. It never helped me in a real fight. In a real fight the bad guy uses knifes, fists, knees and elbows.
To all the clowns here that have never attempted a martial art let alone stepped foot into a dojo you know nothing but what Hollywood tells you. Most of which is all choreographed and meant to favor whoever looks tougher. Never taking into account actual technique. I once brought someone to the ground that was twice my size with one aikido technique. Needless to say he never messed with me again. Educate yourself before talking like you know better
Is this ai generated? I’d like to see a prime Dolph Lundgren, Andy Hug, Michael Jai White and/or Lyoto Machida have a full contact fight against those aikido practitioners next. Just as to see how effective aikido truly is against karate.
I have great respect for Aikido, but many of the fights shown here are ultimately just demonstrations where the attacker doesn't seriously attack..
The deminstration looked rehearsed
There are two different types of aikido. There's the woo woo mystical nonsense version where you get the videos of aikido people embarrassing themselves and there's the practical version that focuses on things that actually work. Both are steeped in traditional practices so don't be surprised if you can tell which is which at first glance.
It's also important to remember that no single martial arts style is all you need. Aikido is a good addition to a diverse martial arts skill set, but definitely not the only thing you need.
Aikido Master please fight jon jones 🙏🙏😐😐
salut . there are no better or worse fighting styles, just fighters with different abilities.
and perhaps there are fighting styles with more or less restrictions.
Karate, Aikido and a little Bullshido too.
Why so people always run head first into the aikido guy? Put your guard up, be responsiv, be flexible, they just throw themself into the aikido guys power. Ridiculous.
I don’t believe because Aikido is NOT real…
Nice commercial 😂
there wasn't any real fight in the whole video. Try putting together 10 serious boxe vs aikido, muay thai vs aikido, mma vs aikido. I could understand a judo comparison, as judo only lacks defense against strikes, but once solved the issue it's matter of "if the strikers ko's the judoka first, else he's dead"
What if a karateka tried to break the rhythm? :-D
Utter nonsense. When I practised karate, a fellow student was an Akido black belt, and whilst he was good at sweeps and throws, he certainly couldn’t simply avoid the punches and kicks I threw at him!