This Verse ALONE Disproves Islam
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- Опубліковано 2 лют 2023
- There is no shortage of such verses in the Quran. This one is particularly silly..
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The biggest objection to this video so far has been: "Muslim doesn't mean follower of Islam, it means submitter to Allah"
That doesn't really address the issue here. For the Quran to make any claim about Abraham and then invalidate other religions' claims to him because of the timeline.. that undermines the Quran's argument. Because it is the furthest on the timeline from Abraham.
Also, I said it clearly, this doesn't "disprove" Islam because it hasn't been proven to begin with. I'm just borrowing catchy religious titles.
Besides that and the absurd suggestion that disbelievers just wouldn't understand or not use their intellect, there are even more issues with this dubious verse.
To begin with, it asserts Christians and Jews would argue about Abraham, or claim he was a Jew or a Christian. They don't, and I have never met any Jew or Christian who would even think of such nonsense or waste time on that. The entire message of the verse was therefore already based on a lie or a pointless strawman, at best on a misrepresentation of other religions' claims which it only pretends to invalidate. There's nothing like a justified argument or truth in the entire verse, but only unsubstantiated claims and manipulative propaganda.
@@reinercelsus8299 are you fool or what. Jews and Christians used to do that debate at that time. And this verse is to address that issue.
And one more thing if you haven't observed something doesn't mean that it doesn't happen or exist. I never met you that doesn't mean that you doesn't exist.
This world is not revolve around your experiences. Grow up intellectually
Keeping in mind you recently made this comment, I can assume the recent objections came from a video who refuted this argument, from Farhan Ahmed Zia. All credit goes to him, and I hope this clears up any misconceptions and doubts. Bismillah, let’s start.
First, that sure is one way to take one part of the argument and leave everything else. The argue,not against your objection to the Quranic verse is as follows:
1) The verse addresses a group of Jews and Christians at the time who had an argument about whether Abraham was a Jew or Christian, and so Allah sent down this verse refuting both sides by showing how what defines their religion (ie the Torah and Gospel) wasn’t sent down until long after Abraham. This logic is sound because being a Jew or Christian is defined by following the Torah or Gospel, and since neither existed at the time of Abraham, he couldn’t have been following their religion in that sense. This makes it a matter of which they have no knowledge of except conjecture. Not only that, but one can also see how this is impossible in the definition of the words “Jew
“ and “Christian”, namely being “a member of the Kingdom of Judah” and “a follower of Christ”, both of which, again, came way after Abraham. Then you attempted to apply this to the Quran, which leads us to the next point.
2) A Jew or Christian is defined by them following their own books. Applying this to the Quran and then saying we can’t claim Abraham was a Muslim either is false because as you mentioned, being a Muslim doesn’t depend on the book sent down (ie the Quran), it depends on submitting to Allah. Hence the argument can’t be applied to the Quran because that would be assuming being a Muslim revolves around following the Quran, which throughout history isn’t true. As for Abraham, the term “Muslim” can still be used since he was a monotheist worshipping Allah, regardless of when the Quran was sent down. Since claiming he was a Muslim doesn’t depend on him following the Quran and rather him worshipping Allah alone, the argument remains valid.
As for the reply saying Jews and Chrsitians disagreeing about Abraham and that being a lie and a misrepresentation, this can be refuted on two points:
First, the prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم) used to debate the Jews and Christians on more than one occasion. They were basically the “Islam Critics” of their day, only to be refuted day in and day out. Had this been a lie against them, they would’ve instantly taken notice and used it against the Muslims.
Second, the following may be found in Tafsir Ibn Kathir page 184:
Muhammad bin Ishaq bin Yasar reported than Ibn ‘Abbas said, “The Christians of Najran and Jewish Rabbis gathered before the Messenger of Allah (صلى الله عليه وسلم). The rabbis said, ‘Ibrahim was certainly Jewish.’ The Christians said, ‘Certainly, Ibrahim was Christian.’ So Allah sent down, (يا أهل الكتاب لم تحاجون في إبراهيم) meaning, ‘How is it that you, Jews, claim that Ibrahim was Jew, although he lived before Allah sent down the Tawrah to Musa? How is it that you, Christian’s claim that Ibrahim was Christian, although Christianity came after his time?”
@@IsraHellandhypocriteeuropeans You're talking bullcrap. This world does not revolve around stupid rubbish, delusions and lies of medieval arabs. Grow up intellectually.
Critiques of Islam always hide their faces while critiques of Christian do it openly. That speaks loud about the religion.
yes because islam responds to criticism with violence
He dont want to get killed by your peaceful islam.
yes that is true
@@ZK1.0 yeah... no... thats just false
@@malaika777 give me proof
Imagine sending over 100,000 prophets and still not getting your point across. 🙃
Then to top it all off of all things sending one more that's illiterate.
It iz spelled "profit" not "prophet" and yes all capitalizm and profit is about greed and iz immoral. We need to share. Work for thu common good and not profit. You due not need 100,000 profits. u need Iz Lamb. u need All Law!
😀😁😆🤣🤪
Jesus is not the son of God Isaiah 44:6,8,24 KJV
@@teachmetheway7081 Masyaalah
Aman Rabbi Aman 😁
Christians never claim that Abraham is Christian because Christianity all about following Christ. They believe Abraham as a father of all believers. Also Christians accept that they are derived from Jewish beliefs. As Abraham was the father of Jewish generations, Christians also accept that.
Yep, that's true
Christians do believe Abraham was a christian, who sacrificed a lamb and believed in a redemption in the future through jesus on the cross, that is my christian friend told me. Even the time gap between Abraham and jesus is more than 8000 years😂😂😂
@@AbdulQadir-sp9gc your friend doesn't know. Christianity is about following Christ. We acknowledge Abraham, but to say that Christians saying that he is a Christian is false. There were no Christians during Abraham's time. Period.
I think you are getting caught up in the wrong definition. That's all.
I do know this though, that mahamed was NOT a prophet :
allah SPOKE to Adam, Moses, David and other prophets, BUT allah NEVER spoke to mahamed.
mahamed NEVER did any signs
mahamed NEVER did any prophecies
mahamed was DECEIVED by SATAN
mahamed is NOT a prophet.
@@polokucoch8112: That means Prophet Abraham did not know the existence of Son of God😂😂?
@@AbdulQadir-sp9gc abdool!! We're talking about definition against timeframe... Are you a child? Do you understand what the issue was? 🤦♀🤦♀
Genuine question: Are you a kid?
Islam is so peaceful even when u criticise it u must wear a mask ... such peace!
🤣🤣🤣the sarcasm
5:32 Quran have a good Day
like templars with the red cross desivers scammers
A religion so perfect and attractive that they will kill you if you leave.
@@user-ij6ve3rw6s Nur weil jmd ein Kreuz hat, ist er kein Christ. Da wurdest du getäuscht. Das Ankerkreuz gab es schon in Ägypten. Ist auch immer dasselbe Argument. Mimimi die Kreuzritter. Ich sehe keine Christen, die weltweit Menschen töten, weil sie nicht Christus folgen. Der Islam ist von Satan
Brother learned Quran and it’s context from BBC news
@@mafuzurrahman6573 well that's all the IQ of islamophobes can support
you proved his point LMAOOOO , he literally said "then they come at you saying ur ignorant without giving the reason why"
@@Madara_Uchiha69420 Abraham pbuh was a prophet, served and worshiped one true god, paid alm taxes. Which is the definition of a muslim. Muhammad pbuh was a prophet, served and worshiped one true god, paid alm taxes. Which is the definition of a muslim. so yes, Abraham was a muslim, like Muhammad pbut. Not a jew or christian. There is too much ignorance and hatred in this apostate aladdin's heart.
@@mahaimhaque629where’s the proof Abraham was a Muslim ? Lmao , Abraham never set foot in Arabia
@@Jomgg well, I don't have a time machine to take you back to Abraham to show you he prayed to one true god. LMAO
Came here from your collab with Genetically Modified Skeptic, and I love what I'm seeing!
Why love critic of Islam when. When islam show good life while, Atheism is insane with LGBTQ, gender means nothing anymore to the point, man cn destroy woman in sport just by being classified as a woman
Same!
I'm quite surprised, because for me, all the
- "Afala ta'qilun" (Will you not use your intellect?)
- "Afala yatadabbarun" (do they not then reflect?)
- "Afala Tatafakkarun" (don't you think?)
- "Afala tubshirun" (and in yourselves, don't you see?)
are actually the verses that bring me to Islam, the bold encouragement to be curious, to think, to be critical, to accommodate my curiosity, to learn, and alhamdulillah I found an ocean of knowledge in Islam, moreover I can still learn just about anything, I was born muslim (in the sense of religion, not fitra context) but there's agnostic kind of moment in my life and phase which I used to think that all religion is dull and dumb, but its no longer that way after I read the quran myself rather than presuming with prejudice (to justify my stance as agnostic) beforehand, anyway thanks for the video, it would encourage for those who seek the truth and start to be honest to themselves will actually begin to "think" about it, hopefully all my fellow agnostic found it as well, the ocean of knowledge that will satisfy your instinctual desire to learn, probabilistically speaking, it is us who lack the subject of field to understand a thing, lets say before I learnt software engineering my worldy point of view are so dull, I can't comprehend a thing or two, in the Islamic context there's alot that only revealed (in the sense of meaning) that only revealed to me after I finish my bachelor study, but the more subject I gather in different fields (psychology, math, algorithm), makes me exactly know that Islam is so vast, precise and amazing, Alhamdulillah, keep learning friends, learn every field and I suggest to not dwarf the idea and concept. open yourself to expandability.
"Do you not see how Allah compares a good word to a good tree? Its root is firm and its branches reach the sky." 14:24
here's the compiled in Indonesian translation (been in my notes for so long), the patterns that brings me to islam:
"Index berfikir" (index of thinking)
2:44, ...Maka tidakkah kamu berpikir?
3:65, ...Apakah kamu tidak berpikir?
6:32, ...Maka tidakkah kamu memahaminya?
7:169, ...Maka apakah kamu sekalian tidak mengerti?
12:109, ...Maka tidakkah kamu memikirkannya?
10:16, ...Maka apakah kamu tidak memikirkannya?
21:10 ...Maka apakah kamu tiada memahaminya?
23:80 ...Maka apakah kamu tidak memahaminya?
37:137-138 ...Maka apakah kamu tidak memikirkan?
11:51 ...Maka tidakkah kamu memikirkan (nya)?"
21:63-67 ...Maka apakah kamu tidak memahami?
36:62 ... Maka apakah kamu tidak memikirkan?
36:68 ...Maka apakah mereka tidak memikirkan?
2:242 ...supaya kamu memahaminya.
3:118 ...jika kamu memahaminya.
24:16 ...agar kamu memahaminya.
57:17 ...supaya kamu memikirkannya.
6:151 ...supaya kamu memahami (nya).
12:2 ...agar kamu memahaminya.
43:3 ...supaya kamu memahami (nya).
2:170 ...walaupun nenek moyang mereka itu tidak mengetahui suatu apa pun, dan tidak mendapat petunjuk?"
2:171 ...maka (oleh sebab itu) mereka tidak mengerti.
5:58 ...mereka benar-benar kaum yang tidak mau mempergunakan akal.
5:103 ...kebanyakan mereka tidak mengerti.
8:22 ...orang-orang yang pekak dan tuli yang tidak mengerti apa-apa pun.
10:42 ...mereka tidak mengerti.
10:100 ...orang-orang yang tidak mempergunakan akalnya.
29:63 ...kebanyakan mereka tidak memahami (nya).
49:4 ...kebanyakan mereka tidak mengerti.
59:14 ...mereka adalah kaum yang tidak mengerti.
25:43-44 ...apakah kamu mengira bahwa kebanyakan mereka itu mendengar atau memahami.
21:64 ...bagi kaum yang memikirkan.
30:24 ...bagi kaum yang mempergunakan akalnya.
45:5 ...bagi kaum yang berakal.
13:4 ...bagi kaum yang berfikir.
16:66-67 ...bagi orang yang memikirkan.
16:12 ...bagi kaum yang memahami (nya),
29:35 ...bagi orang-orang yang berakal.
22:46 ...mereka mempunyai hati yang dengan itu mereka dapat memahami atau mempunyai telinga yang dengan itu mereka dapat mendengar?....
30:28 ...bagi kaum yang berakal.
67:10-11 ..."Sekiranya kami mendengarkan atau memikirkan (peringatan itu)"...
Same! I would go to videos that question Islam to see other’s perspective and it encourages me to research further on my religion. Really helps to strengthen my faith.
@@jinxd8936 To be honest, the more people try to disprove Islam the more it proves Islam Is the Absolute Truth, here's the reason:
Islam has a lot of pre-emptive verses, anticipation verses which exactly reflect the current situation and I believe in any era before and after as well.
Those pre-emptive verses speak explicitly in detail regarding the criteria of a person who try to disprove Islam and what their doubts, their question and what's important is the answer is also there. that's just not something a human can even think of.
It's no wonder Qur'an are also known as The CLEAR Qur'an, I'm not a psycholog, but diving deep into qur'an makes me know myself better and can see the world with great clarity, the type of person and anticipate their behavior like a pure miracle, while in fact is, Islam teach me how to think, to make a reasonable deduction and everything. That's wondrous.
@@jinxd8936 It looks like you're in denial
well said!
if you blind... you will never see.
To challenge Islam is an important job.
What makes it so important? Is it because it's the only religion that makes u feel unsure about urs why just Islam what about all the other millions of religions out there do u all agree & just differ with Islam then that makes it only 2 religions
@@travisbenson5006 Islam is the only ideology still trying to replace the freedom, laws, cultures and intelligence of all people anywhere with backwarded arabic cultism, folklore and delusions from the 7th century. I don't even call it a religion anymore.
@@travisbenson5006you can research that people who challenged Allah got punished heavy
@@Entrypoint94993 indeed
@@Entrypoint94993mate, there are thousands of videos on youtube of broking there stupid logics. and why he is doing this islamophobes things for sure money!! before come to arguing with me he has member on his channel
And earning from that and absolutely from ads as well
He is earning good amount of money by doing this so why not?
I have watched till 4:04, up to the moment you made your point. Though I understand the reason why you think so, I understood it differently because I’ve read the sirat nabawiya and specifically came upon this verse. The jews and christians were arguing amongst themselves about whether Abraham was a jew or a christian. The said verse was meant to tackle both sides as in: how can you argue that Abraham was a jew or a christian when the Torah (Moses, judaism) and the Gospels (Jesus, Christianity) came after Abraham, making the point that he was neither jew nor christian but a muslim. I want to make a little sidenote that according to islam all prophets and believers were muslims i.e submissives to the Allah. I’m very happy to hear your take. In the meantime I continue to watch the video.
All prophets were never Muslim. They were all Christian. They were sent by Jesus with hints of his name in what they said. Even muhhamed was a Christina before he was decieved and make Islam
He totally ignored the point of the verse
@@nabeelshaikh4404 what was the point of the verse then?
@@yojoyboy What?
All the prophets were muslim. Obviously they didn't pray 5 times a day, but that kind of things are not the true definition of being muslim.
Muslim means who submits himself to God. By the time, as per time & region, the rules & regulations have changed. But, the fundamental belief is the same bruh!
& Quran is not just a New book but a Latest Book. A latest book obviously dismisses past rules & regulations.
No one I know, Jewish or Christian, claims that Abraham was the first Christian or Jew. They cite sources from Torah and Christian tradition that he was a grain buyer from Ur. So a Mesopotamian. That's something! An ordinary businessman who comes up with the idea that there aren't many gods (like Enlil or Enki or Ishthar), but only one god who is responsible for EVERYTHING.
Mesopotamia's gods did not always agree. They bickered with each other, and if anything went wrong on Earth, it could be traced back to that bickering. But Abraham's ONLY God must not have argued with himself - and yet things often went wrong. Abraham must have said that to himself too. What did he invent to explain this? That God's will is incomprehensible, or that he has an adversary who constantly messes with his work?
I don’t know of any Christian who claims Abraham was a Christian. Never the less, good video!
The Quran never said they claim Abraham was Christian. The Quran is saying ALL who submit to the creator, as Muslim, No sects, All true followers of the creator, are one. An inclusive defining of followers of the creator.
And the Islamophobes try twist it. While they keep supporting the genocide against Muslims by Nato nations. Then cry Muslims are the bad guy when they fight back.
For the muslims Abraham was a muslim😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Abraham was not a Muslim or a Jew . Christianity and jewdaism are after Abraham . Christians never say Abraham is a Christian.
Abraham the way he pray there's nothing there no idol or what else he pray alone
@@Girlie-vt9fk are you saying Abraham is a Muslim?
I never heard a cristitian saying Abraham was Christian 🤷🏻
Lmao 😂 so abraham worshipped Jesus
Exactly. Christians call jesus god, prophet, messiah, angel, holy spirit, let's not say how much they reject previous prophets
@@Sts19929abraham worshiped The God of jesus.
@@Sts19929So did Abraham took shahada and aknowledged Mohammed as the last prophet?😂😂😂😂
Bruh, even Jesus isn't Christian.
Did he really take ten minutes to make this tiny non-argument?
All very valid points, and things I never realised or questioned when I was a believer despite how obvious they should have been. When you read a scripture through the eyes of someone who takes its absolute truth as a given, even the most illogical bits of it can seem profound!
the human race is now smart enough to know that the square root is minus one is a number and someday we will understand that 1 plus 1 iz 3 and 7. it is so beautiful.
What points?
And when u read a scripture through de eyes of a HATER and a MOCKER even de most logical bits of it can can seem illogical or superficial.....
@@zehravesile You are right Zehra, it's almost as bad to approach a scripture with pre-existing prejudice or to approach it looking for faults. The best thing to do is approach it objectively and with an open heart and mind, and be willing to accept its good parts and bad parts. And that is very difficult to do when you already take it as absolute truth. I certainly don't hate Islam or the Qur'an, I was a believing Muslim for 32 years. I acknowledge it has some beautiful parts, and some terrible parts. And if anything, that is the biggest testament to its very human origins
@@TheEnlightenedRebel
What points?
I still didn't get the argument!
U only hear what you want to hear
@@mbplayzgames5484 What?🤣
Because hes just waffling
Nice video, but one comment was incorrect. Christians don’t claim that Abraham was Christian.. Christ was not born then, so he would have be Jewish..
Judaism didn't even exist yet in his timeline even.......................
when the Quran says Abraham was not a jew or Christian is because its anachronistic to use these names based on people that lived thousands of years after Abraham. but the name Islam is not a name of an Arab tribe, but describes a characteristic of humans have who submitted to Allah since the time of Adam.
so it's anachronistic to say Abraham was a jew or chrstian, but its not anachronistic to say Abraham was a Muslim, because the bible itself describes Abraham as someone who totally submitted his will to god
@@homer1273 oh please… cmon now…. That’s your belief… a made up story based on no facts… you’re telling m,e that Abraham was a Muslim because he submitted to your god…? That’s your religion not mine… next thing your be telling me Abraham help his son Ishmael in building the kabba… what proof have you got of that..
Islam is nothing but made up stories and lies…
You wanna be telling me Abraham was Muslim because he submitted to god… load of rubbish…
Blatantly rubbish with no proof.. just here say stories… without lies Islam dies…. Go comment somewhere else please and don t preach Islam pack of lies and demonic Satan worship…
Beautiful! Alas a common momin is trained not to be analytical and critical since birth and the one who needs this the most will have a very hard time understanding. I thoroughly enjoy your intellectual dissection of your topics. I also suggest if there is a way to simplify the message for those who are not intellectually well endowed.
I just disproved every argument of this guy, i am sure to disprove anyone else
I am a momin and i rhink analytically, i found islam, using historical reasearch
clearly you havent understood the verse . when the Quran says Abraham was not a jew or Christian is because its anachronistic to use these names based on people that lived thousands of years after Abraham. but the name Islam is not a name of an Arab tribe, but describes a characteristic of humans have who submitted to Allah since the time of Adam.
so it's anachronistic to say Abraham was a jew or chrstian, but its not anachronistic to say Abraham was a Muslim, because the bible itself describes Abraham as someone who totally submitted his will to god
clearly you havent understood the verse . when the Quran says Abraham was not a jew or Christian is because its anachronistic to use these names based on people that lived thousands of years after Abraham. but the name Islam is not a name of an Arab tribe, but describes a characteristic of humans have who submitted to Allah since the time of Adam.
so it's anachronistic to say Abraham was a jew or chrstian, but its not anachronistic to say Abraham was a Muslim, because the bible itself describes Abraham as someone who totally submitted his will to god
@@homer1273 agreed
Another great video. Love the production values and, personally, I didn't find the music intrusive at all :)
clearly you havent understood the verse . when the Quran says Abraham was not a jew or Christian is because its anachronistic to use these names based on people that lived thousands of years after Abraham. but the name Islam is not a name of an Arab tribe, but describes a characteristic of humans have who submitted to Allah since the time of Adam.
so it's anachronistic to say Abraham was a jew or chrstian, but its not anachronistic to say Abraham was a Muslim, because the bible itself describes Abraham as someone who totally submitted his will to god
Aladdin I think a book shelf tour video would be a interesting short low key vid, possibly on this channel or your second. Also i really like the clean editing.
I've never ever seen any christian saying Abraham was christian, or anyone else that came before Jesus either.
It's One of the false claims Quran makes about former scriptures
Like
Uzaih translated wrongly as Ezrah was the son of God by Jews is that true?
The God is not a father, Jesus is not son of God because God can't have a son without a wife.
Any bible for that.?
You see errors in claims never does bible say God has a wife?
Because it wasn’t called that because Jesus wasn’t born in earth yet
@@user-xu1hn3ic6bQuran is hard to translate to other languages other than Arabic, almost all translators would be inaccurate. So it should be recited in Arabic
That's true how can he be a Jew when he is their grand children and how can he be a christian when it comes with coming if christ.its nonsense
Like when Quran says the Jews say uziaih translated falsely as Ezrah is the son of God.
No where in History to date.
Then again it says Allah is a father to no one and how can Allah have a Son when he has no wife.
This again is nowhere in bible that God is a father and has a son because he has a wife.
It's Quran saying so.
So Allah the all knowing gives message in a language people can't translate yet we should follow it? That's why the learned ones lie to the 99% who are ignorant of Arabic.
It should then have been for Arabs alone who despite claim it's clear in Arabic has turned out to be a night nare with one verses translated into ,4 meanings.
Ooooooh all wise Allah
Your point 5 minutes in really resonated with me. I'm an atheist, always have been, but fairly recently a friend told me I was ignorant for asking questions. Not about a religion either, but about a political thing. I'm seeing more and more the evolution of politics into tribalism, and tribalism into blind faith in political leaders. It's worrying
Blind faith in political leaders has always existed, but the current political thing is to have intolerance at the same time for other people who have faith in other political leaders. Imagined moral superiority turning into a willingness to persecute other viewpoints and ignore long-established norms that preserve political diversity. Which is something with dire consequences as demonstrated by the former Communist bloc.
The problem is that any sort of extreme ideology tends to become its own religion. Followers typically respond badly to this conclusion, but that tends to prove its validity. Far left/far right politics have literally every single hallmark of a cult. Their leaders are idolized like gods, their dogma is unquestionable in any way and doing so will incite violence. Anyone who's not on their side is the enemy (who isn't for us, is against us) and they believe they hold a monopoly on absolute truth and justice. That's a religious cult. No two ways around it.
If the extreme conclusion of any political ideology inherently becomes a cult, the moderates on either side are simply the less problematic followers. But they ultimately still believe in their side's core tenets. They have the same arguments as moderate christians or muslims, like "yeah but there are good things in it too", leading to the assumption that all of the bad it brings doesn't matter, as long as it does some good alongside it. Politics are as inherently toxic and dangerous as any religion. Unfortunately that also leads to the uncomfortable conclusion that we're all living in some sort of theocracy. Religion rules the world just as much, if not more so than it did in the dark ages. It dictates law and actively persecutes those who don't submit to it. The best and only thing you can do is keep your head down and pretend to be a moderate. The alternative invariably means being publicly vilified, potentially imprisoned or worse. You lose your rights when people realize you see politics and politicians for what they really are. There really is no faster way to make a lot of enemies.
@@JohnA.Zoidberg You're spot on there, and great choice for youtube character! Have you seen the new series?
Yeah I remember writing this comment, it was about the more left-leaning people in my life. Since I wrote it, some of those friends have on their own abandoned their in-groups, feeling that the communities they were in were no longer 'safe spaces'. It's sad, because with this cult-like angle all political groups take, comes the sacrifice of the individual.
And I know individualism might be a more right-wing thing but deep down we all want to define ourselves. I spoke to someone about gender for example the other day and she said her gender identity was the only solid thing she knew about herself. These costumes we wear, the masks, the categories; it's all a way of discovering yourself.
But when you slot that discovery into a group, and that group wants you to be defined ONLY by those discoveries, it very quickly becomes a dehumanizing, spiralling game of who fits the group the best. Questions are unwelcome, dissent is met with ridicule, doxxing, bullying, and sometimes violence.
I consider myself incredibly privileged to have friends who can sit and talk about comedy, for example, without deciding they are the ultimate moral authority on what you can and cannot joke about. I've seen that happen increasingly in the arts and it is thoroughly depressing, this suffocation of expression under the guise of 'kindness' that in reality, only serves to silence people for whom dark comedy is not just a fun night out, but a much-needed release.
Anyway, lots of points for one comment, I'll leave it there. Thanks for replying dude!
All the gods of religion are MAN-MADE!
When you look deep into nature and see what it reflects about the Creator, you begin to look outside the Universe.
Google: The Parasitic Fly that kills the Fire Ants.
America has been inundated by Fire Ants in the past 50 years and cause billions of dollars damage.
By doing research in the lab, scientist traced their home base in Argentina, where their numbers are one tenth of those in America.
They observed the ants and saw tiny flies attacking the ants. What the flies were doing was laying eggs into the ant and flying away. The egg hatches and makes its way to the ant's brain and soon decapitates the ant and starts to feed off it. Soon it metamorphosis and breaks out to start the cycle all over again. Now Americans are bring these "aliens" to America and getting them to curb the numbers of Fire Ants.
Haven't you thought of Deism? God without religion. I mean the existence of a higher being is logical but religions could be man-made
something that i think is worth mentioning is related to what you said in regards to preservation. why did allah allow so many prophets to have his message knowing that they would corrupt it and cause other religions to form from it? allah never fails to mention how he despises other religiona even though he was responsible for their formation. not only that but he created a system where anyone that rejects islam goes to hell! he knew this would happen in advance but planned it anyway! thats insane!
Quite sadistic and illogical coming from a supposedly all-knowing, just, and merciful god
The entire idea of an omnipotent being who simultaneously wants us to be free while also following his explicit commandments doesn't make any sense at all. If god wants us to act in a certain way, either he's insanely cruel and we're his play things (puppets) that he has total control over (including all phenomena and other belief systems), or he's extremely incompetent.
He's also responsible for all of the suffering in the world, and our ability to feel it as suffering. If you believe god is omnipotent and monitors our thoughts, feelings for anything that might go against his teachings, while at the same time believing that he has supreme command of every aspect of the universe you leave yourself with the two possibilities above; either he's insanely stupid and inept, or he's a cruel benevolent dictator type.
Also, why would god reveal himself exclusively to illiterate peasants in the desert who lived conveniently in a time and era where human knowledge was relatively poor and largely communicated via word of mouth? And why not reveal himself to a culture that had long established collectively sourced knowledge and had widespread written history (China)?
Again, none of it makes much sense if you don't assume it's divinely derived.
Well I guess it just shows that 'Allah' is really just a person with grievance...i.e Muhammad et al
Allah is the worst of planners that's for sure😆
Just because God knows doesn't mean he facilitated man causing corruption on earth. Man is given free will to be a witness to himself.
Qur'an 2:30 "˹Remember˺ when your Lord said to the angels, “I am going to place a successive ˹human˺ authority on earth.” They asked ˹Allah˺, “Will You place in it someone who will spread corruption there and shed blood while we glorify Your praises and proclaim Your holiness?” Allah responded, “I know what you do not know.”"
This video is mad clean in production and the content is fire too
Imagine sending 100,000 prophets for your religion and you still can’t get your point across. Then your final prophet is illiterate.
Don't ask them who wrote quran. Because it wasn't ummayd but some pixie magic
@@jtj1295 😂 yep! it was a bunch of dudes
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@@LennyChildOfJesus actually that’s your “bible” your Bible was chosen by a group of people who would choose what books were apocrypha and what books were good too keep. Also here’s some Christian math just for gigglez. 1+1+1=1
Makes sense right!? 🤦🏼♂️
@@Sts19929 Looks like moslems just can't use intellect. If you are a son of your father, husband of your wife, father of your children, you are arguably three different things, yet still only one, or 1+1+1=1 (Prof. Dr. Bart Ehrman on Trinity). But after nonsensical logic from the brains of moslems, you were therefore either three gods or you can't be real.
Makes sense, right?
4:14
in the quote it says "last resort". last resort to what? what are they trying to achieve by burning the old copies?
@@babotond we burn old copies because, would you throw something holy in the garbage or on the floor for it to be stepped on? No you wouldn’t , so we burn it to it turns into ashes and it becomes normal ash and nothing holy
I'm glad that a lot of you seem to like the production quality, especially because this video took me the least amount of time to actually produce after I had written down what I wanted to say!
IDC...........
theres something to be said about these less-produced videos. the meat of videos like this is in the words and often times overly editing it just detracts from the message. i prefer this kind
@Rationality Seeker i second this as well
I’m sorry what’s different about this video from the rest ?
@@rationalityseeker true...the background music doesn't seem to fit completely, although I would say it's not too distracting
I love how you use logic to critique all Abrahamic faiths.
Not all Abrahamic faiths can be right, but all Abrahamic faiths can be wrong
Because Islam is not come from Abraham religion.....deep...
Islam is created by muhammad father name Abd Allah bin Al-Muttalib
And later on muhammad making himself a prophet....deep....ok bye²
@@fourtry Lol, it is. Stop denying the obvious. Islam is like a fan fiction version of Christianity and Judaism.
@@fourtry Did you know that in *ALL instances* where the word Muhammad was written (in writings, inscriptions etc) before 750 CE, *there is no patronym (ibn/bin)* after the word Muhammad?
All other quranic names have a patronym.
What does this prove? Muhammad was a title.
Then came the Abbasids around 750 CE.
*In the Abbasid-sponsored writings, Muhammad has a patronym!*
Suddenly, *Muhammad gets a father!*
@@kevinmathew4884 and a few other pagan religions too🤣
@@kevinmathew4884 But it is still not really an Abrahamic religion. Imagine a religion saying that Abraham (Avarachan) lived in Kottayam in India and worshipped Mahadeva the One True God by building the temple at Thirunakkara. Imagine the same religion rejecting all previous scriptures as corrupt which mention the life of Abraham. Pretty much what Mo did.
Would that religion be an Abrahamic religion? Christianity is an Abrahamic religion because Christians accept the same stories of Abraham in the Torah as the Jews. That makes sense. Mo's religion is too radical to merit the same label.
The wisdom is when you get to know that religions are there to divide and rule 😂
Are you exmuslim ?
Crazy, isn't it? Jesus is the King, the Lord, the Truth. He's here to rule, and he knew there would be division based on those who would follow or reject him.
@@francisgoin3112Amen
From what I read, I think the verses means that Jew and Christian are the term used for people following specific prophet (Musa and Isa AS). Because of that, Ibrahim AS cannot be categorized as neither of them.
Musa, Isa or Ibrahim as imagined by moslems are not even considered historical by jews or christians, but merely parodies or reinventions of Moses, Jesus and Abraham by just arabs.
Outside islam only, Jesus was not even called a prophet by anyone ever, so only moslems from the 7th century or christian heretics before them could have addressed him like that.
Christians and jews never debated if Abraham was either in reality and they never had any reason to do so, therefore arabs must have invented that. Christians didn't give a shit for any claims or opinions of jews about Abraham regardless, unless the jews accepted Jesus as their Christ in the first place. Never happened.
The tone is really the same that daawa people uses, I remember how during islamic education we learned about Mohamed and Quran being the best example to eloquence and speech like : using exemples, "the aren't you using ur logic" method and using comedy (which you will find most of time very cringy and manipulative when u are listening to this type of speech after becoming critical). I like the video a lot and I would love to see more of this content!
You’re not critical. You’re just arrogant.
Lol man I really can't understand how we are having these arguments in 2023 with our advanced technology😆. If u actually STUDY u will realize that islam was created as a COUNTER FORCE against Christianity which was the dominant power of that region and time, hence why Christianity is one of the the main focuses in islam lol. Both "religions" are COLINIAL SYSTEMS under the DISGUISE of spirituality. Christianity under the Europeans and Islam under the Arabs. Theres a reason why CONQUEST AND CONVERSION is their number 1 priority, NUMBERS/MAN POWER!💯. Hence why they BOTH are at the top of the food chain now lol🤷♂️. Once they conquer a region they completely destroy its native culture and replace it with theirs, this is called COLONIALISM my friends lol🤷♂️.
Proud EX muslim😉😊🙏
Your logic is flawed prophet Ibrahim (as) WAS indeed a Muslim because a Muslim is the one who submit his will to allah try harder next time
It's funny how you're not skeptical of his arguments this makes this video even more ironic because he just keeps reaffirming the belief that the quran if false with the same erroneous arguments that get DESTROYED with just a tiny bit of logic
@@no-nz2op Its funny because these "ex-muslims" are mostly ex-muslims because Islam didn't suit their desires. And now they try to find something wrong with Islam but they can try so hard yet what they argue they have clearly no understanding of. It's sad seeing so many people believing such nonsense so blindly.
What you said is very contradicting and SILLY too. Let me repeat what you have said but may not be your exact words followed by my comments:
You said:
Muslims believe all prophets starting with Adam came from the same source ALLAH.
My Response: 100% in agreement. We do believe that is true.
You said:
Muslims believe that each prophet told the message that aligns perfectly with the monotheistic Islam.
My Response: 100% in agreement. We do believe that is true. Except I would like to make a minor correction as follows:
Muslims believe that each prophet brought the original uncorrupted message that aligns perfectly with the monotheistic Islam.
You said:
Muslims believe the reason the Jews and Christians and all the messages of previous prophets don't seem to align with Islam today because those revelations were corrupted by humans and prophet Muhammad came to clear all the confusion once and for all.
My response:
With regard to Jewish and Christian scriptures, the statement is true. With regard to other original scriptures, they don’t exist for the Quran to state whether they were corrupted or not. All other scriptures simply no longer exist.
Also, you missed an important Islamic perspective on all previous scriptures. In Islam, ALLAH’s religion is one. The thing you need to understand what that means. The religion in all previous scriptures and Islam is the believe in and worship of ONE GOD. That is the definition of the religion of Islam.
However, in spite of the fact that all prophets came with the same religion (believing and worshiping ONE GOD), they had different Sharias (legislations) each suited for their own time and place. These revelations were meant for specific tribes, groups, or people and not for all humanity.
So, the Injeel (New Testament) was specific to the Jews. Also, the Torah was specific to the Jews for that time only. The Quran is for all humanity and most Muslims are not Arabs which is a testament to its universal appeal.
So, all previous scriptures came with the same religion but with different sharias (legislations) that were specific to the people receiving the message.
Then you mentioned:
The hadeeth that ALLAH sent 124,000 prophets since Adam and only Muhammad's message is incorruptible for some reason.
My response: As I mentioned before, all previous scriptures do not exist except for what is left of the Torah and New Testament (Injeel). As mentioned before, there is only one religion which is to believe in and worship ONE GOD. That is why Muslims believe all prophets came with the same religion.
Then you said:
The focal point being this, the Jews and Christians have no claim to Ibrahim because they came after Ibrahim much like the Quran which is revealed way after all these prophets. SO, by this logic, Muhammad has zero claim to any previous prophets or religions because the Quran is the newest of the scriptures.
My response:
Based on our believes as Muslims, you are wrong. Because if we believe all previous prophets came with the same message of worshiping ONE GOD and Muhammad peace be upon him came with the same message, then he is perfectly aligned with all previous messages.
Are the Christians aligned with this message? No.
Are the Jews aligned with this message? No.
Christians worship Jesus which conflicts with what Jews and Muslims believe. Both Muslims and Jews believe in ONE GOD. The Christians came up with a message that no previous prophet came with according to their own stories about previous prophets. Based on that, Christians has no claim to Ibrahim because their message was never taught by Ibrahim or any of the previous prophets as mentioned in their own Bible SILLY.
The Jews follow their Rabbis who created another holly book (Talmud) which is full of, to say it mildly, unacceptable stuff. One story, a Rabbi fought with ALLAH and defeated ALLAH. Another story where ALLAH conceded that he lost the argument with Rabbis who outsmarted him. The Jews follow what their Rabbis decree and not what ALLAH commanded them to follow. In Islam, the definition of worship is to FOLLOW ALLAH's COMMANDS. We pray because ALLAH commanded us to pray, we fast because ALLAH commanded us to fast, etc. So, based on this definition, the Jews believe in ONE GOD, but they worship their Rabbis because they follow what their Rabbis tells them. Also, the Jews identify their religion by their race. So, it’s a racial religion and ALLAH is not racist. Based on that, Jews has no clam to Ibrahim because Ibrahim followed ALLAH's commands and not other humans, and he was not a racist SILLY.
This is besides the many clear contradictions you can easily find in both scriptures.
Quran has ZERO (the biggest zero you can draw across the universe) contradictions.
For over 1400 years, thousands upon thousands of scholars (Christians, Jews, and all others) have tried to find ONE REAL (not FAKE) contradiction and they came out with nothing.
Now, you, Mr. smarts, found many contradictions!!! You must have more knowledge in comparative religions than the many theologians now settings in prestigious schools across the western world and beyond who are looking for anything wrong with the Quran. You should contact them and tell your great findings SILLY.
The FOCAL POINT SILLY:
It’s not about which came before, and which came after. It’s about who is right and who is wrong. Yes, the Quran tells them they have no claim to Ibrahim because they came after Ibrahim, but the Quran says that because Ibrahim had a different message than what they are preaching as I have explained above and below.
What you failed to do is taking these verses in the context of other verses as follows:
Verse 3:64 that you failed to mention:
Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “O People of the Book! Let us come to common terms: that we will worship none but Allah, associate none with Him, nor take one another as lords instead of Allah.” But if they turn away, then say, “Bear witness that we have submitted ˹to Allah alone˺.”
MY COMMENT: This verse defines what is the religion of ALLAH
Then it is followed by:
3:65
O People of the Book! Why do you argue about Abraham, while the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed until long after him? Do you not understand?
3:66
Here you are! You disputed about what you have ˹little˺ knowledge of,1 but why do you now argue about what you have no knowledge of?2 Allah knows and you do not know.
3:67
Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian; he submitted in all uprightness1 and was not a polytheist.
Then 3:68 that you failed to mention:
Indeed, those who have the best claim to Abraham are his followers, this Prophet, and the believers. And Allah is the Guardian of those who believe.
MY QUESTION: Who is following Ibrahim SILLY????
You need to learn that religion is different than scripture. ALLAH has one religion, but there are many scriptures most of which are lost, and two of the 3 remaining are corrupted as evident to any person who is willing to challenge himself or herself and uses their intellect.
ONLY ONE Remaining scripture is uncorrupted, the QURAN that revived ALLAH’s ONLY religion, to WORSHIP HIM ALONE.
SILLY YOU
Stupid people never tries to comprehend to think or dive deeper - they tries to attract others to their stupidness
May ALLAH bless you
You have educated us a lot thanks.
lol that's a really pretty messed up job for yollo as a g_d. 1400+ years and still messed up until now. what a sloppy g_d ever. 😂😂
May Allah bless you.
Damn bruh. That's a lot of words. I'm not gona read it but cool story bruh.
Out of curiosity, in 3:67, couldn't "حنيف" (true; upright) also be understood to mean a (or the first) "renunciate" who rejected polytheism? Seems on topic
ur background music sounds like my ringtone and it made me paranoid the whole video lol
The one about not bothering muhammad before and after supper did it for me! 😅
Yes, that verse would have been more appropriate as a sign on the door of Muhammad's house/s, rather than a verse in the Quran supposedly for all time and of importance for people who lived/live long after he and his wives are no more. It's beyond stupid!🤣🤦🏻♂
@@robmancuso964 But Mo was too shy to even say it out loud, and most people in his cult including himself couldn't read anyway, so clearly the creator of the universe had to step in.
Fr like that is hella sus how brainwashed do you have to be to still believe all the lies in islam after reading that
@rexsceleratorum1632
Muslim:
Sign: Don't bother me before and after supper, OR YOU WILL HURT ALLAH'S FEELINGS!
Muslim: "that sign can't stop me because I can't read!"
I liked this one! I think you should do more like this video. Your points about this verse are well explained and were easy to follow.
Because you’re also ignorant.
Can u summarize what are the points ?
@@zmnali78 islam is false.
@@crusaderknight6928 and how is that so?
Haha I love how relatable you are in your presentation. The comment on the word “thousandth” was something I was thinking about even before you acknowledge it - and I’m a native English speaker!
AP AL ! Nailed it with all Wisdom ! God Bless you ! Wow ! More and more of theses !
I found these verses the other day and showed them to my mom expecting her to understand the problem with them, but instead I got illogical responses, trying desperately to defend the book that makes no sense. When you get too deep into the rabbit hole of islam, your blind belief blocks off the thinking part of the brain and activates mullah speech regurgitation.
Assalam aleykum. The verse is not explicitly stating that Jews and Christians cannot claim that Abraham was following their religion because the Torah and the Gospel were revealed later. Instead, the emphasis IS ON QUESTIONING THE BASIS for disputes and arguments about Abraham when those scriptures were not revealed during his lifetime.
The broader message in the Quran is to emphasize the unity of the message across different prophets and scriptures, particularly the oneness of God and the call to submission (Islam). While the verse challenges the disputations about Abraham's faith in light of the chronological order of revelations, it does not explicitly say that Jews and Christians cannot claim any connection to Abraham.
The Quran encourages recognizing the commonalities in the message of monotheism shared by the Abrahamic faiths and suggests a focus on the fundamental principles rather than unnecessary disputes. The aim is to foster understanding and unity among believers in God, regardless of the specific religious traditions they follow.
Very tragically very true. Start with apostate prophet's video on scientific inaccuracies in the quran.
The word "muslim" means submitter of god in arabic, it is true that the jews and christians have no claim to say Abraham was a jew or christian because the only thing he was, was a submitter of god, and the verse is assuming that Islam is the correct religion meaning he would have been muslim, so no problem here, leave your poor mother alone.
@@محمد678 Islam was not invented until the 7th century. Check your facts
@@محمد678 Islam was not revealed or invented till muhammad. 640 a.d thereabouts. Abraham was neither, Jew, Christian or muslim
You up for an online debate? would love to do so
When I read the Quran I missed that logical inconsistency... I wasn't able to really consider the logic given how the verse was basically just insulting non-muslims. It's kind of how you gloss over youtube comments written by a kid that start and end with insults.
Its not inconsistent. Considering Quran is coming from God, God knows the past and he can reveal what happened in the past in the present. This was also proven my a mulitude of verses that not even the bible/torah has or in cases where bible is straight up historically wrong and the Quran has the correct statement that will eventually be historically proven 1000 years later.
Also God is speaking in the quran. When Jews and Christians were making up stories of Abraham being a jew/christian that is purely lying in the name of religion which is blasphemy. Also also, God can insult whoever he wants and he has a good reason to insult them.
This guy assumes that people think the quran was a random revelation that Muhammad made up and that people would question these things. They didn't. Both jews and christians were aware of the miracles and the quranic narrative so this is why God is speaking with such confidence in the verses. Only fools would ignore the Quran when they are experiencing the miracle in front of their faces.
Jews and christians in the are mass converted during Islam's run.
its not insulting non muslims, it seems like it to u but if u read it in Arabic its not insulting, its a warning to people who put partners next to Allah. Dont know why u take it like that but bible and torah also from Allah and u will almost see the same to who who disobay god.
@@abdullahbinmadhi8306
The Qu’ran who allows to kill the apostats and the non Muslims, who encourages slavery, marriage with young girls, stoning, amputation, beheading……
@@abdullahbinmadhi8306 allah and islam are of the devil!!
Yeah go read samuel 13 5, You will find out the TRUE meaning of a kid's writing
I love your energy man! Amazing video! Thank you for your courage
Well written and eloquently spoken! Aladdin you're a blessing 🙌
Too bad it’s all completely embarrassingly wrong.
@@johnluin6793 How is it wrong?
@@Lifeskeyishappiness Looooool… you don’t know….?😂🤣 I’m sorry I really don’t mean to be condescending but it’s okay for you to not know, but someone who claims to have been a Muslim and a native Arabic speaker even, the guy above definitely just clowned himself majorly.
@@Lifeskeyishappiness Hanif Muslim means that someone submits themselves to God without any revelation. That is what Abraham is. Abraham was neither a Jew nor Christian nor Muslim in the sense of believing after Muhammad (saw) since all those revelations came after. It’s that simple. A HANIF Muslim is one who believes in ONE GOD with ZERO revelation. That is what Allah called Abraham in this segment of verses. But Apostate Clownaddin does not know. This is too funny. Too funny.
@@johnluin6793 how about rest of Prophets
Moses , Daud, Isaiah ,Daniel , Zachariah etc
Were they Muslim too ?
I love everything about this video and you. The way you talk is so soothing bro, and you worded perfectly what threw me off when I started reading the Quran. It sounded very condescending, and being a non-Muslim native Arabic speaker, the language was abusive while staying loyal to its level of errancy.. I applaude you. Best vid and way of communication
8:20
you don't know shit, Allah knows everything because he says so
I wonder if you missed Aladdin's condescension in this video?
@@lapis_lazuli578 bro gave unearned respect in the way he spoke. Can't say the same of any religious knuckleheads
@@Gargindale ah he must have given the atheist version of respect, which involves acting like your opponents are mindless bots. silly me!
Also, I find it strange that you felt the need to point out that it was unearned, because you were just complaining about not being respected by the Qur'an, but when did you earn respect?
Hi brother. Let's start with this. The biggest mistake that people make is believing that it's a favor on God for them to believe, to the contrary it's a favor on us if God opens our chest to believe. The problem with your argument is that you assume that by the Arabic word Muslim it's referring to a "religion". He's addressing the people that have taken the "way of life" this system of guidance that was sent down before and then they broken it up into "religion". Instead of viewing the untranslated word Muslim as a religion translat it to English as you have the rest of the verse. Then you would see that he's saying that Abraham was not a Jew, (which was a nickname that the people refer to the followers of Moses after him that later became a "religion" called Judaism), nor was he a Christian, (which again was the nickname given to the people that followed Jesus and later was considered a "religion") , but he was a truly in the state of submission to the will of God. Which is what the Arabic word Muslim would translate to in English. And he was not one who was associated partners with God meaning he worship God alone. If you have read the entire Quran then you would see that throughout it constantly tells us that this way of life recommended by God is one way of life and that's submission to his judgments. Understanding that man is the one that he gave free will to. Example you don't have to teach a horse how to be a horse or to do things that horses do because they don't have free will. Man on the other hand we do have free will and with that free will is easy to incline to our emotions or our judgments and misjudgments. Just a touch on why the Quran what makes sense to be uncorrupted is to understand that everything that has a beginning also has an end and if God is truly a just God then it would only make sense for him to allow that the truth gets preserved before the day of judgment. If you looking for a sign you can see the sign and the fact that no matter what language is translated to you can always refer back to the original language because most of the time it's there with each translation. Another sign would be the fact that there are literally millions of people that have memorized this book from beginning to end. I agree with you that some or maybe even more than some don't understand its meaning that's between them and God. Yet still the word itself is there and if someone misquotes it, they are quickly corrected. And finally there's no arrogance in God he allows people pray to other than him, not believing him at all, not care to do good in this life etc yet he's still gives them blessings in this life the blessings of life itself with the law that he gives men what they strive for. And yet the evil people and the disbelieving people those who associated partners with God and those who didn't believe in him will deserve misery in the next life to come because they failed the test of this temporary life. And they forgot about the day of judgment One last note that really refers back to what I started with if one closes their heart and chooses to disbelieve God don't need us. He leaves that person lost and his word don't become clear to them yet when one strives to believe then he starts to open his word up to them and starts to make it clear and then he gives them the light to walk through this life with. If it's confusing to you then maybe it's because you're looking to be confused as opposed to looking to be guided. Peace!!!!
Lol man I really can't understand how we are having these arguments in 2023 with our advanced technology😆. If u actually STUDY u will realize that islam was created as a COUNTER FORCE against Christianity which was the dominant power of that region and time, hence why Christianity is one of the the main focuses in islam lol. Both "religions" are COLINIAL SYSTEMS under the DISGUISE of spirituality. Christianity under the Europeans and Islam under the Arabs. Theres a reason why CONQUEST AND CONVERSION is their number 1 priority, NUMBERS/MAN POWER!💯. Hence why they BOTH are at the top of the food chain now lol🤷♂️. Once they conquer a region they completely destroy its native culture and replace it with theirs, this is called COLONIALISM my friends lol🤷♂️.
Proud EX muslim😉😊🙏
Agreed, some of these people are just making a fool of themselves and think it's alright to make a show of peoples beliefs. They will get it back at them big time..
If Abraham was not a jew, what was he? *What was his religion* ?? Are you going to say that he was a Muslim? But that cannot be, because Muhammad said that he was the first Muslim! (Quran 39:12).
@@Herman47 true! Abraham was a believer in god himself thus proving the word uprighteness.
@@Herman47 Muslim simply means someoen who submits to God, "And I have been commanded to be the first [among you] to submit." is also part of the verse your referring to
Just discovered yow channel dawg, u got a new sub
Bro it’s never too late to do the right thing pls look upon miracles and revert to Islam
. Inshallah Allah will grant all my Muslim brother and sister in jannah
@@Ricumhot88no
I loved the video, the production quality, your super relaxing voice and all the points you made. I was surprised to have never stumbled over this before. Also yes please, make another video about a logical argument in the Quran.
Me too...I was looking up Apostate Prophet and found Apostate Aladdin instead...and yes his voice is really easy to listen to. I was reading the Koran as I was listening to him.
LOL
With all due respect, I am a layman Muslim and even I know how to refute his arguments with ease. This guy conveniently leaves out our perspective to his arguments for the sake of making sense in a yt video for views. After hearing and considering all his arguments, and knowing my answer to them, my faith has actually increased. Thank you sir.
@@agp4580 Good for you, you can believe in whatever you want. You don't have to accuse him for making videos simply for viewership though, you don't know what this man has sacrificed to support those who left Islam. You can join his regular livestreams where he talks to believers including Muslims and Christians if you want to talk to him.
@@agp4580 So what is your answer then...
So tldr you ignore the Quranic challenge made in 2:23-24 which the best poets could not complete, and the scientific miracles and historical miracles, and now your basically doing what the Christian missionaries do and that’s nit pick. Should the Quran rlly have to say in each verse it’s proofs?
This is literally nitpicking every verse with ignorance after every claim that the Quran is false has been refuted.
Brother thought he outsmarted every scholar of Islam and even regular muslims. I’m not scholar but I at least study my religion and understand it and research when the verses were revealed.
No doubt about it if you can mislead the ones in the comment the Dajjal will sweep up every disbeliever and weak believer.
So much yapping. The fact that you genuinely think there are irrefutable 'scientific and historical miracles' in the quran and that the quran itself can even remotely begin to stand up to any actual testing shows you've been living in a bubble. Mythical unproveable hogwash has no place in the real world and deserves no consideration. When a religion is founded on fear and abusive love & actively seeks to deter/punish detractors no one should ever give it any thought. It's disgusting. And regardless of its methods it's about as real as 'sperm coming from between the backbone and the rib'. Your comment screams 'I was raised with muslim parents/around muslims and I've never bothered to actually investigate my cultural nonesense.'
The condemnation of Islam was pronounced over a thousand years ago - with the words of the Quran and its interpreters.
Why does this intolerant religion still exist? Because it provides a convenient excuse for being allowed to rob, murder and oppress - justified by today's interpreters of Islam. ISIS was just one example of many.
I am NOT trying to claim that Christianity is even a bit better. The Patriarch of Constantinople's shit was sold to pilgrims as holy... Holy shit!
my guy
@@towhidalam9213 yea?
There is not a single miracle of any kind, scientific, or historical. Lmao. A good poet could write a book like the Quran, but they'd go to jail because that's illegal. Sound suspicious? It should.
Muslim here. I believe the verse can be interpreted as "Why do you claim that the teachings and practices revealed in the Bible and the Torah applied to Abraham when it was revealed long after him"?
Notice that the verse emphasizes the mention of the Books, not that Jews or Christians simply said Abraham was a Jew or Christian in the sense of the core belief. The books entail teachings and practices, which cannot be said to apply to all prophets because that is unknown to them as the next verse says.
You said, doesn't this apply also to the Quran, which came after Abraham? Well, where does it say in the Quran that it applied to Abraham? That Abraham fasted Ramadan maybe? We don't say that Abraham did exactly what the Quran says. That would be like saying Noah observed Eid al-Adha, which is illogical since Noah came long before that.. And Abraham came long before the Quran. We simply say that Abraham rejected paganism (Hanif) and believed and submitted to God (Muslim), not that he fasted Ramadan for example, which is exclusive to this Ummah.
As for the "why don't you use your intellect". This is a logical contradiction, one that doesn't require faith to figure it out, hence the use of "Intellect" (Aql) rather than "if you but believe". I don't see it condescending in any way. That's probably just prejudice from you.
P.S.: Supporting this from Hadith, at the second coming of Jesus, Jesus will rule with what was revealed to Mohammed and his teachings, as evident in Sahih Muslim ("He would lead you according to the Book of your: Lord (hallowed be He and most exalted) and the Sunnah of your Apostle (ﷺ).") Book 1, Hadith 299
Also in Sahih Muslim 156, Book 1, Hadith 300 : "I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say: A section of my people will not cease fighting for the Truth and will prevail till the Day of Resurrection. He said: Jesus son of Mary would then descend and their (Muslims') commander would invite him to come and lead them in prayer, but he would say: No, some amongst you are commanders over some (amongst you). This is the honour from Allah for this Ummah."
"This is the honour from Allah for this Ummah." This about this for a second.. Each Ummah has it characteristics and blessings. But the Quran says, they all submitted to God (aka are Muslims).
And God knows best.
Jazakallahu khair bro and ramadan mubarak. Thank you for answering this ignorant man
As a muslim, you should Repent.
@@crusaderknight6928your name is crusader Knight? Yet your a muslim? And why should he repent? He refuted the contradictions of the quran? Or maybe I'm just stupid and you mean someone else.
I liked the video and the background music, I agree with the consensus, you should make another
clearly you havent understood the verse . when the Quran says Abraham was not a jew or Christian is because its anachronistic to use these names based on people that lived thousands of years after Abraham. but the name Islam is not a name of an Arab tribe, but describes a characteristic of humans who have submitted to Allah since the time of Adam.
so it's anachronistic to say Abraham was a jew or chrstian, but its not anachronistic to say Abraham was a Muslim, because the bible itself describes Abraham as someone who totally submitted his will to god
Jews and Christians are attributed to something that came after Abraham. Jews being a clan of one of the sons of Abraham and Christians being referred to as the followers of Christ.
You can't follow somebody who is not born yet, so Abraham couldn't have been a Christian. And you can't be in the subcategory of Jews because Jews are the descendants of the son of Abraham himself.
As the verse says.
أفلا تعقلون
@@homer1273stop spamming
@@RealMephres stop spammin? The truth hurts you? You're not going to silence the true religion
A great short vid...I particularly liked your subtle filtration of music. Most of the time when others add music, if it isn't just plain annoying, it's coercive...I think, at least speaking for myself, your edit is neither, and if anything it was alloying me to better listen to what you are saying.
It's not great. 1/10. The guy hasn't understood the verse.
Always a delight to see your videos Alladin. Also eager to watch more animated videos, love the humour in them.
Try NABIL ASLI if you like animated videos about Islam.
8:51 glad to see that someone from far away with a similarly influenced but still different culture came up with the same term. Well, I call it "mental masturbation" and employ it against apologists too (among other comservatives). What a coincidence!
Annisa: thou shall marry up to 4. The boss had 9.
Over the years, 4 at a time.
Quality Content, Keep Improving Brother. 💗💗💗
I loved this! I never thought of it this way. Also, love the thumbnail 😄
What?
Because you’re smart. To think of it this way and miss the point like Alladin so bad you’d have to be very st* pid.
Are you ex-muslim, Lina?
@@uthman2281 This video was awesome! islam is FALSE.
Great one, keep it up AA!
8:30. Here is a free English lesson. That sentence would be more intelligent and meaningful if it was, "You don't know anything". "Anything" is your word of the day.
I am always baffled when I meet an exceptionally brilliant moslym who cannot see that eyslame is false. You Aladdin are one of those who saw through the falsity of eyslame with such clarity. May you find truth and I hope many more are able to free themselves from the clutches of blind belief.
@W Wrong! You cannot make such a claim until you have thoroughly explored all religions. I agree all Abrahamic/fear based religion can be matched to cult. Sanatan Dharma or vedic religions are not manmade.
@W That is YOUR BELIEF.
@W I have no need to argue or prove anything to you. I just stated that that is your belief. How is that arguing? And how does arguing with someone prove low iq? Just some thoughts. No need to answer me. I'm done. Peace!
@@Jiv509
How do you know what is true?
@Uthman You start by being true to yourself(that is without any social, emotional or religious influence) and then seek truth. You will know it when you genuinely realize it and in the meantime you will know what is false.
2:46 *Christians claimed that Abraham was a christian? No way.* Throughout history they have always been clearly aware of the difference btw the old & the new testament, the old & the new covenant. *Useful work, otherwise.* Keep that critical mind! *You're doing an awesome job.*
The famous verse of peace 5/32 is a copy of the Jewish Talmud = the Book of Rabbis.
@@twnb7733 《whosoever destroys a single soul of israel, scripture imputes [guilt] to him as though he had destroyed a complete world; and whosoever preserves a single soul of israel, scripture ascribes [merit] to him as though he had preserved a complete world.》 _(wikislam, Parallelism: Sanhedrin 37a)_
@@twnb7733 yeah... the Q, a boring hodgepodge of Jewish and Xtian texts/tales + a Zoroastrian sexual paradise, full of repetitive threats, violences, incitements to death.
@@rv5188 Yes, “the children of Israel “is mentioned 32 times in the Quran. No mention of any Palestinian ( philistine from the Crete. A white!)
@@twnb7733 I'm not really into the Palestinian stuff but I see their situation as obviously terrible---and horrific: these people are suffering unnecessarily - mainly because they are being hijacked by their own power-hungry "leaders".
This stuff sounds like the old Chinese philosopher confusion
It's interesting to see that the Quran really
was a baseline on how the ummah spread Islam and taught it throughout generations, even through the intonations
As a conservative American who was raised Christian, Alhamdulillah for this video for strengthening my imaan
and how is allah real?
@@ViralChimp. I’ll give you an explanation but first may I ask what your belief system is? I only ask to answer in the most comprehensive way possible.
@@acogjefe4769 I am Christain
@@acogjefe4769 I am a Christian, and I also own a quran, so don't tell me to read it. I already have
@@acogjefe4769 but please, don't just ignore me like all other muslims
First off, I want to apologize in advance for the long post.
I think that these verses consider Abraham (or Ibrahim) a muslim based on the fact that he practiced complete submission to God (Islam).
The Quran claims to come to abrogate and perfect what this practice of submission entails. That doesn’t mean that previous prophet were not able to practice submission according to their best understanding at that time.
The “don’t you reason?” Or “don’t you have intelect?” Doesn’t feel like an insult, but a call to stop the fighting and reflect.
As a former Christian, the passage “I know things that you don’t” reminds me of God’s response at the end of the Book of Job. I wonder if that’s by design.
For these reasons, I think the message here COULD be considered to be effective.
I am not a muslim at the moment. I still see validity in your critique, though I disagree in the conclusions.
Again, apologies for the long post.
God bless you. What I like about your videos is your empathy. Like you put yourself in the position of preachers, believers, disbelieving audience of the Quran, etc. You are such a great human being except possibly for whatever was going on with AP, of which I didn't finish reading up about, so I'm not sure who's the good vs bad guy. But I pray for both of you, both great human beings.
Lets pause the debate about religion and look into Tartaria. Suggestions: "Cry from the Abyss" and "Stolen History Parts 1 - 3"
Yay, I'm early for once! Excited.
Your videos are the best 💕 this is why I sub to your Patreon 💕 "critical thought is thought of as the devil's whispers" this is so true with any fundamentalist religion. My family member who is a evangelical Christian is exactly like that. He says "why do you have to question everything around you?" Angrily. But then me having my own pagan religion is automatically evil. And I'm just like you I have empathy for everyone, not sympathy but empathy.
When you have so many proofs and arguments that prove God's existence so called "skepticism" and critical thinking about the Deen is coming from the devil also notice how all of these "atheists" aren't skeptics when it comes to darwinism or to science in general love the hypocrisy and how they believe in it blindly without asking questions, how about you start questioning this guy's arguments, every time I use just a little bit of my brain all of his and his friends' arguments fall flat on their faces.
that's not my experience as a muslim. I see verses like "Have they not reflected upon their own being? Allah only created the heavens and the earth and everything in between for a purpose and an appointed term (30:8)" and "Do they not then reflect on the Quran? Had it been from anyone other than Allah, they would have certainly found in it many inconsistencies (4:82)" as encouraging critical thinking.
"critical thought is thought of as the devil's whispers". I think having doubts about something that you have good reason to believe are the devil's whispers. Not critical thought.
The only thing I, as a Christian and as all mainstream Christians, don't see Abraham as a Christian. Christianity became a religion centuries after Abraham. He was a prophet of the creator who revealed himself to Abraham and were the Hebrew nation arose
Where in the verse, it is mentioned that christians claim that Abraham is christian ?
I have to be honest you are the first ex-muslim who have made arguements I never thought of in different angles. I really enjoy your videos and logic. Would be nice to talk to you one day.
Your voice kind of reminds me of Iraqi UA-camr Hakim, hes an Iraqi communist. Your message of not trying to make atheist initiate dialogue, debating each and every point in quran or dawah or in videos of Muslim critics makes me wish you had atleast a milliom subscribers . I was wondering what do you want the future of your channel to look like if you ever plan to do a collab with ex christian atheist youtubers like cosmic skeptic genetically modified skeptic. Also I want you to debate the lack of dissent in Islam and the Muslim with prominent Muslim youtubers like Hakim.
I would 10/10 love to see more videos of various flaws/leaps of logic in the quran.
Van der Graaf Generator (The final part of White Hammer is one of the heaviest riff I have heard even if there are no guitar!) and King Crimson have so many songs that would turn into good metal.
I will take a leap of faith by defying gravity
the verse says Ibrahim was a muslim i.e. one who submits. It does not say that he practiced Islam as revealed in the Qur'an. Obviously he did not. just as he did not practice christianity or judaism.
would 10/10 love to see -more- videos of various flaws/leaps of logic in the quran. fixed that for you, as we have yet to see one
@@lapis_lazuli578i totally appreciate the delusional response, u totally made a great rebuttal 🤣
@@greatmusic142 please explain how I was delusional. would like to learn
edit: I have no desire to misrepresent Aladdin. If you can show me that I've gotten something wrong, I will retract. If you can't, stop pretending that you can.
Even the Old Testament is loonie. Did god really need prophets? Why didn't god just talk to everyone in the world at the same time, god is omnipresent, ain't he.
That verse might refer to Talmudist Jews and early-heretical Christian sects such as certain Gnostics living in the area. I haven't seen anyone take a look from that perspective. Maybe, eventually some academic might look from that angle and give us a different perspective. In the end, early Muslims seemed like a non-trinitarian Christian sect that observes 10 commandments. But, then again, this is my uneducated guess in that topic.
Bro you speaks so calmly that your criticism sounds like asmr
After watching this video, I left Islam. Thank you Aladdin.
Bro you should be a stand up comedian with these claims😂
thank u for sharing this..
I clicked so fast to watch the video! Okey let me see it first and give a constructive comment!
🤭
Great job !!!
umm, no
If every Muslim read the Quran with a critical mind, there will be no Muslims left in Islam
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@@Stahlhalter you will be out soon unless your brain is clogged
20+ year's still a Muslim.
And have memorized the Quran with it's translation and tafsir... So you're the one without a brain cell
@@StahlhalterNo ,its facts 💯
@@huios974ive read the quran and memorized it and understood it and millions of people did that and we are the fastest growing religion so get ur fax right before speaking kiddo
so much of the Quran is just screaming I Know and you don't! over and over in the most egressive and defensive manner.
Insecurity and arrogance.. Im an indigenous Bolivian and even here on this side of the world the Andeans and the Inca's were the same way. The Inca's had this mentality of "we can do no wrong" and "Only family and relatives of the Sapa Inca (king) are pure and anointed and can have a normal life, everyone else is a slave". My point being is plenty of civilizations that placed themselves on a pedestal like the Muslims.
Just like how muslims today argue lol
Yeah
when the Quran says Abraham was not a jew or Christian, is because its anachronistic to use these names based on people that lived thousands of years after Abraham. but the name Islam is not a name of an Arab tribe, but describes a characteristic behaviour of humans who have who submitted to Allah since the time of Adam.
so it's anachronistic to say Abraham was a jew or chrstian, but its not anachronistic to say Abraham was a Muslim, because the bible itself describes Abraham as someone who totally submitted his will to god
Errors in the Bible (:
Non-believers obtain mercy. Romans 11:32
Only believers obtain mercy. John 3:36;Romans 14:23
Only baptized believers obtain mercy. Mark 16:16
Mercy cannot be predetermined. Romans 9:18
Repentance is necessary. Acts 3:19;Luke 3:3
Repentance is not necessary. Romans 11:29
Good work. Keep it going.
Great video brother. You've booked 5 star lava-side accommodation in the after life. Regardless of what you believe, we can't change reality. So you can make red hot UA-cam videos in the afterlife about how unjust and arrogant your creator is.
There's no afterlife, brother. Enjoy the one life you've got and try to make it a better one for the people you surround yourself with. They'll return the favour.
@@garethmiguel agreed dear but once an athiest asked ahmed deedat HOW WOULD U FEEL WHEN U DIE N DUSCOVER DAT DE HEREAFTER WAS A LIE?ahmed deedat replied NOT WORSE THEN WHEN U DIE N DISCOVER DAT DE HEREAFTER IS DE TRUTH.....so i think its better 2 b on de safe side dear.....
@@zehravesile I don't consider living your life in fear and abusing and repressing others because of that fear as 'the safe side'. Its more, 'the fearful side'.
Is there a verse proving islam in coran ?🤡
There were 124k prophets, but not a shred of historical text pointing to Islam until after the 7th century. Hmmm 🤔
Bit sus
124k prophets warning humanity not to bow to their feudal lords, idols of stone, and free the slaves, and humanity still manages to not get it.
@@MelaninMagdalene - 124k prophets that didn’t mention Islam/Muslims it seems 🥴
@@bigboyshit1
That’s about 17 for every language spoken. 😆
They didn't need to mention islam, if the message from each prophet was the same. There should be an obvious theme @@bigboyshit1
I can sum the Quran up in one verse “you guys did all the bad things “ and then allah never has to write another verse after that to much redundancy allah just put my verse in your book and that’s the end of it
A good informative presentation. But why the background music? What does it add? I find it distracting.
So??
@@crusaderknight6928 I refer you to my original message. If you still do not understand it then keep repeating it until you do. But beware of getting stuck in a loop iterating to infinity.
what it means to be a christian, jewish individual and muslim has a play in it. this is a bad example, but it's like how something like asexuality existed before there was a name for it. if by being muslim just means someone who submits to god, then yeah muslims were chilling before muhammad showed up. what were they even arguing about? where's the context? you can find ways round any verse, especially if you slap a "it's not literal" label on it. but what's the point? out of all the things god could have said to us, this is what we have to work with. it has to be important in some way, right?
LOL This guy is your intellectual? How Allah has humiliated you people. XDDDDDDDDDD
Major cope.
The more I learn about islam the more convinced I become of Christianity
Agreed, the true God of the Universe and our Lord Jesus do not quickly anger at creation and instead made the ultimate sacrifice in Love and also tells us to TEST THE SPIRIT, test His WORD
HalleluYAH
The more I learn about Christianity the more I become Muslim
@@Ib1.08I hear it’s real easy to become one: all you have to do is take the mark and worship it’s image.
Both glorify a fallible and evil god.
This is why mohamet thinks he's the last prophet. Mohamet ask if jesus would come back and God said not in your lifetime,mohamet ask if men would fly so God said not in your lifetime.Then Mohamet ask if there would be anorher prophet like him and god said not in MY lifetime.
You got a good style Aladin. Intelligent and simple. God bless
👏 agreed cousin, completely agree!
Interesting analysis. Keep them coming.
The argumentation referred to in verse 65 was to decide whether Sayyidna Ibrahim (علیہ السلام) followed the way of the Jews, or that of the Christians. The futility of their exercise already stood exposed as both these ways in religion appeared long after the revelation of the Old and New Testaments. These just did not exist before that.
Here's a logical argument against Islam/Koran/Momo: "You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do." - Anne Lemott on a totally different topic but applicable nonetheless.
Doesn’t make sense but ok
@@rebeuoriginel have you thought it thru? A God who hates? And it happens to be the same people you hate? What are the odds of all of that?
@@kaneinkansasI see you haven't read any of the Quran and or the Hadhiths. There are at least three examples where the prophet peace be upon him let live the people he hated. One was somebody who killed his uncle in the battle of Uhud, the other a defector who later became a Muslim on the conquest of Madinah, third, a woman who swore by God she didn't commit adultery and then birthed a fatherless baby. All three were let go, and the first one was told never to show his face to him again. Peace be upon him.
@@ryuzaki5491 Indeed, I have read the Koran and Hadiths as I taught a unit on Islamic Jurisprudence for many years. Islamic Jurisprudence is reliant upon the Koran, the Sunna and the Hadiths to determine Islamic Law. But that is not the point. The point is, Mohammed hated and his God did too, and gave Mohammed license to kill the people he hated, and that . Period. End of story.
In Islam we see sanctioned hatred, deceit, death.
Judeo-Christians believe God is love and truth and embraces life and humility, love ;and truth - oh and paradox: he shames the strong and rich and violent with weakness, humility and peacefulness. As a result the Western (often Christian) view is that God loves all that he created, including all humans, and he gave us free will, so we can find our way, thru our own personal volition, to goodness and to God. God not only asks us to love our neighbor as ourselves, but love our enemies too and to pray for them. Why? Because God loves them too. God created them, and God loves his creation. If God did not want us to be free to find our own way to him in each of our own way, he wouldn't have given us Free Will, instead would have only created Muslims. Presumably, God has that power.
You should not presume I am a Christian or a type or kind of Christian, only that I am of the West and inherit Western thought.
But you should consider that to Christians, Islam and Mohammed are the anti-Christ and seemingly demonic - because it embraces hate, killing (of non-Muslims) and use of deceit. Also, Jesus is viewed as an expression of God's love for humanity. It is assumed that love is the ultimate elixir to sufferance - and that Jesus endures the massive amount of possible sufferance, in part, because the size (infinite) of his love for us. It is assumed that the more evil something is the less it loves or is able to feel and manifest love and to pray for those who do harm to us. This gets into the the crux of things. Islam's view of paradise is void of love, except or instead, it is presented as a sexual paradise. This is corporeal pleasure, not a manifestation of love. The Koran makes lots of mistakes about science and history and even religion - confusing Mary as being kin Moses and Lot, and tells stories related to the infantry gospel of Thomas. It also embraces deceit whereas the Gospels say Satan is the king of lies, and represents death, destruction, violence and hate.
There is the Islamic Dilemma - it upholds the validity of the Gospels, but the Gospels do not return the favor.
Then there is the theme of paradox. Muslims are hung up on logic, a very human thing, but logic is very simplex, more intriguing is paradox which is a huge theme in Christianity. God attacks hate with love, strength with weakness, greatness with humility, and so on. It is in giving that one receives, it is in pardoning we are pardoned. and it is in dying that one is born to eternal life. Much of Christianity is counter intuitive to Muslims because of paradox, but the Christian God seems to like paradox.
@@ryuzaki5491 "but have you read the hadiths which was written by biased Muslims though" smh
Brother, you nailed the truth about the Quran in a simple, humble and clarity that is understood by us to critical analyzed the argument of the author of the Quran book. Thanks to you and may be blessed you and continue to make more videos. I loved it.
this was a "nailed video" lol You can look at all the refutation of this
@@dahirismail5931the refutations provided are mostly trash. Just twisting stuff, beating around the bush, using a healthly dose of deceptions is the hallmark of Islamist defenders.
Critical questions are now called "insincere" by dawahgandist.
8:20 good mindset! I was thinking the same, I start reading the coran just so I can understand what muslims are about, there are way to many things that disprove the islam
Like what.
Loved this vid! Please do more of these!
One issue I have with theism alone is the image of God that they want to portray.
Ok, I am FINE with theists wanting to claim that their God has infinite wisdom, that he has infinite power, that he is timeless and that he is good. What I am not fine with are the follow-up scruptures that literally DISPROVE all of those claims.
A Timeless being means he's not bound by time at all, meaning he can literally see and have access to the entire timeline of our existence... in that timeline this being saw his message was going to flop, get corrupted all over the place, and that people use that same shady method to make thousands of man-made religion. Where's the wisdom in that?
An infinitely wise and timeless and perfect God would NEVER: Get angry over anything, Regret anything, WONDER about anything, but these man-made ones do.
Right. And some backward guidances are disgusting
Allah (swt) knew his message was going the be corrupted and he let it be as a test to his believers, he gave them hints as that message itself mentioned the coming of prophet Muhammad saw as the last prophet. Then he assured us he would protect the last message and he did as you see today there are millions of Muslims who memorized the quran from cover to cover in extreme detail to the point that even a small mistake gets spotted the ahadith also have classifications and chains of narrations to make sure its true or not, you should know that allah (swt) was the one who let his message get corrupted as he was the one who let iblees or the devil free to misguide the humans up until the day of judgement and he truly does know more than us one example is when gold was made haram to wear for men we didn't know why until recently when it was found that gold is toxic to the sperm
Also allah does not regret anything and he gets angry because we were made to worship him and most of us don't, you should be skeptical about your own arguments and not commit this agregious double standard when it comes to the concept of God
It also Say that a jinn Can use his power to corrupt and curse peoples in PERMISSION of Allah
So it mean every Time someone corrupted the Holy writtings it was because allah wanted it
And then Come to Say "you corrupted it!" Wtf ?
Even the famous satanic verses the prophet justified it by a jinn or a demon speaking to him instead of Gabriel, so even if him the PERFECT man Can be corrupted in his mind by the permission of Allah ... Well its absurd how do we know if the Quran was not corrupted too ? I mean, the corruptions happened in his life Time anyway