Because your orange master hired this fucking Aiji shit for Chairman of the FCC and Republicans are not doing anything for stoping what he is doing because the small minority cult 20% are against the net neutrality.
its not really. pundits and talk show hosts treat it like it is. 80 of the public are in favor of it. pretty sure that means both sides want it. the republicans who wanted it overturned are being bribed, and talk show hosts like ben trust them a little too much sometimes. Although, ben is usually really good at calling his side on this shit. Sad to see him wrong on this one.
Because it's a question of how much governmental regulation is necessary, which typically the left is in favor of more and the right is in favor of less.
And Ben Shapiro is clearly clever and smart when it comes to politics and laws. But he doesn't know how technology works or the actual implications of the removal of Net Neutrality. Republicans saw "Oh, Barrack Obama is in favor of Net Neutrality. We must destroy it then." Net Neutrality was always there prior to 2015. But in 2014, the ISP companies wanted to be greedy and force websites to pay an extra fee on them for people to access their website. Except that's not how the internet works. Without Net Neutrality. Then ISP who are supposed to give you the constant speed and data that to you paid for. Now they'll be able to slow down the speed to dial up status extremely slow so that you don't get to access these websites anymore. Then they'll charge big companies money for the privilege to access your website. So if say the Daily Wire wants to maintain their viewers, the ISP will ask you a fee so that people can see your website despite the fact that people are already paying for the service which is ridiculous. So if Daily Wire wants to maintain it's business model and have subscribers, part of that money will have to go to Comcast, forcing you to charge more to your viewers. Net Neutrality prevents Road Blocks but now the internet will be censored more than ever and little guy like Daily Wire will suffer from this.
Worker at comcast told me they had a meeting discussing this. He said his upper management said one of the things included in the repeal is that the ISPs can look at what you look up without a court order, so every link you visit is not private anymore. That is what he told me, do with it as you like.
Invid of INP You mean what Google does now? Or the NSA? Why does everyone believe the bullshit fear mongering? Title II was made back in 2015, friends. Nothing has changed since then besides a grinding halt of technological innovation.
Yappy Raccoon He doesn't know how the internet works and his "crystal clear logic" can be easily debunked by actual experts on the field. Sheeps like you who act like Ben is right all the time are hilarious.
X3C are you fucking blind? Yappy literally assumed that In Debt College Student was a "typical moron" who "can never explain himself" because "he doesn't make sense"
Considering that the capital needed to have a company compete in this industry is insane I think government needs to play a role. For much of the country there is only one ISP provider in their area and this will not change any time soon.
@@yangziouhci7014 News media was a textbook example of market failure in our time. It is more profitable to lie for the rich, so that's what they did. Deregulation made it worse because companies in unrelated sectors can own media houses. Viewers making informed decisions on who funds the media they consume is like expecting the average person to understand the fine print legalese used in apps to get permission to steal your data So making it so that all web domains have to be carried make it possible for smaller websites to compete with the Netflixes and Googles. Not to mention, not having net neutrality makes it extremely easy for bigger companies to block competition by simply paying ISPs to not carry them. Kinda like Robinhood dropping GameStop stock
An ISP slowed down speeds for Netflix users a few years back. Then charged Netflix a ton of money for their users to be able to use the site at a regular speed again.
This is a good thing considering the amount of resources Netflix uses up in comparison to most other web services. Netflix cost ISPs a fortune so it's only fair that they pay for that
If ISP's can't handle that sort of bandwidth, that's their fault, not Netflix's fault, nor the Netflix consumer's fault. A consumer should not pay for a service that can be throttled at any time for using certain websites. If someone pays for 100mb down speeds, and unlimited download size, they should get that.
I agree with the last thing you said, the consumer should get the service they pay for, but if Netflix causes heavy strain on the network then that prevents the ISP from providing this service, so I think it's perfectly reasonable for the ISP to charge Netflix. And it is the fault of Netflix since it's a poorly engineered service, there are much more efficient ways in which they could serve their media to avoid these issues. Maybe I'm slightly biased since I would never support a streaming service such as Netflix or Spotify but I don't think what I'm saying is unreasonable
Billy Carlyle even if they were more efficient it wouldn't matter, they are a service that provides up to 4k streaming, of long movies and entire TV series, it's always going to take A LOT of bandwidth. And it's also almost ubiquitous among Internet users, most households have Netflix. ISP's need to cater to demand, it doesn't matter how Netflix engineered their system, if no one used it, they wouldn't use a lot of bandwidth.
you need customer protection, fast lanes are going to be abused by large ISPs and most people in US have very small selection of ISPs anyway. As an economist I can say this is 100% going to be against consumer. Imagine you have 2 options : comcast and verizon. They both increase prices on your favourite sites and charge extra. You like this? If net neutrality exists they cannot do this, there is a law that protects us, consumers from getting exploited from such profit opportunities. If you are for non-regulated internet = you are against every single user on internet and small-medium corporations and their websites. Ben is totally wrong since repealing net neutrality does not benefit ANYONE but large few corporations from making more money. This is not about reporting "freedom", this is turning on Anarchy valve.
Song Bird LMAO ur a dumb ass. That's like saying pump and dump schemes should be legal because if someone is stupid enough to buy my stock that's worth 1 penny for $1000 then let them. That's called fraud buddy.
Anthony Maldonado You guys are so fallacious. When Ben Shapiro is finally wrong on something, you go "I'm so surprised he's wrong on this issue, and so blind. How?!" Ben usually takes conservative far-right positions on most topics. This is no exception. Quite being surprised your jewish god, Ben, is no god of reason after all.
Anthony Maldonado you disagree with him that's funny he's a political hack always supposed to do is disagree with the other side you shouldn't listen to a guy like this I'm not even in the politics but I've noticed the people on the rightmost of their channels are like this everything is bad on the left no matter what it is that's how they keep going disable find somebody to agree with them you are a fool to watch this guy
MrShaiya96 quit copy pasting your nonsense at everyone who simply says they disagree with ben. nobody is expressing that kind of surprise you are trying to project on them. what a creep
As others have pointed out, Ben Shapiro doesn't understand Net Neutrality. There is an entertaining UA-cam video exposing just how ignorant he is called "Ben Shapiro debunked by a network engineer on net neutrality."
the exact same they've been paying since they signed their contract with their ISP. The internet was just fine up till 2015 prior to net neutrality, it will be fine after it as well.
Robert N net neutrality began in 1996. In 2015 Obama changed it from title 1 to title 2 to stop ISPs from throttling due to a legal loophole. The FCC has reverted it back to before the 1996 NN.
Zachary Shuhart they repealed Title II but they also aren't Title I anymore. Both regulations have now been repealed meaning ISP can now put in fast lanes what can make daily wire slower than CNN since CNN pays the ISP more.
Ben doesn't understand the problem of throttling. T&T for example tried to stop iphone users from facetiming. They also throttled a live stream. Verizon, at&t and time warner tried to block apps on the google play store.
Actually Ben, you are right about one thing.. you don't know about net neutrality. No one does care about grandma's crochet website, until that website starts to grow and it's starts to pop up on the ISPs radar, so they decide to pressure them to pay to use their lines, but they can't and the establish crochet website can. What then. So the point is not to paint issues as liberal or conservative but as just issues. Anybody who doesn't financially gain from this will only financially lose and lose big. Do a little more research before you just attack something just because a liberal likes it.
Johann B do you actually watch these videos? He already said he wasnt an expert. He also discussed it with the fcc leader, which is why he chose the side that he did. Instead of acting like you understand his pov from the 3:41 video, go watch the 20 minute segment on his explanation from his point of view and from his understanding.
Zachary Fountain, I actually did watch and I know what head said, but that shows that he can not validate his opinion. If he has a show where all he all he does is give his opinion he should validate it. Talking to the head of the FCC and bring his mouthpiece is pointless.
Willy Annoying, how about the time attention and Verizon blocked tether function on phones only to give you the option to pay $20 for that function. How a bout the time they slowed Netflix until they paid a ransom. Who suffered? The people who paid for the ISP service and for Netflix. There are many more examples. I don't understand people like you, not doing research into an issue that will effect you and most people's everyday life. There is no way that removing this law will help the average person. Stop being a mouthpiece and have your own opinion.
Ben I agree on most things you discuss but honestly you don’t understand what net neutrality is, when it was created, what happened in 2015? Obama didn’t create net neutrality, he only reclassified it, net neutrality is basically the telecommunications act of 1996 where the internet provider can only provide the internet and the speed, you can choose which ever speed you like and pay for that, if you don’t want to pay for a 50mgb speed , you don’t have to, you can get a 5mgb plan and pay less. But I shouldn’t have to worry about what websites I can or can’t use based on the internet provider. Ben I’m a fan but you need to do more research on this.
zy lix OVER 22 years actually... I notice conservatives/libertarians agree with the left in support of net neutrality because if you UNDERSTAND it you'd know when you pay MORE for speed and the site pays MORE for servers you should get what u pay for which is what net neturality ACTUALLY PROTECTS! Net neutrality (ACTUALLY started) around 1996 and has helped fight the small number of large companies who have monopolies in many areas, like say many right wing rural areas, who try to take your $ and throttle out right wing sources (or any source) they dislike or are competing with. Enjoy censorship, or, as usual, think beyond left vs. right…There's a thing called karma and Dharma that God let dominate long before the left vs. right. I’ve details sources on that, & on other stuff I just said. Examples: "Majority of Tea Partiers Back Net Neutrality Principles, Polling Shows" (morningconsult.com/2017/12/13/majority-of-tea-partiers-back-net-neutrality-principles-polling-shows) "3 out of 4 Republicans oppose the government's plan to repeal its net neutrality" www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/12/12/this-poll-gave-americans-a-detailed-case-for-and-against-the-fccs-net-neutrality-plan-the-reaction-among-republicans-was-striking/ "83 percent of voters support keeping FCC's net neutrality rules" www.google.com/search?q=poll+americans+support+net+neutrality&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1
Interesting how even people who like Shapiro, who I would assume are on the right, act the same way liberals do when they disagree. Ton of comments saying Shapiro is stupid because you dont agree with his opinion.
Exactly, I want to see people making rational arguments and then we can get into a real debate, instead it’s just “Ben doesn’t know what he’s talking about’
“See the FCC won’t let me be, or let me be me so let me see, they try to shut me down on MTV but it feel’s so empty without me.” -Eminem Said once by a wise man...
How is he wrong? You don't get to just say he's wrong without qualifying yourself - why is he wrong? I want to know? I'm confused by this as a lot of other people are, and I haven't found anyone stepping it out clearly on either side of the discussion. I'm going back to listen to ua-cam.com/video/iu6o_IBCjjs/v-deo.html of Ben's to see if it clears up the confusion because I'd take Ben's information because he does very well at researching his data.
When someone says that another person is wrong, they typically also include some reasoning as to WHY that person is wrong. Since you did not, we must deduce that you don't actually KNOW why you think he's wrong. Seriously, throw us a bone here, why is he wrong?
Ben. Ending net nuetrality may not kill the internet but it has the potential to make it really really suck. It also had the potential to silence people like yourself. Why would you support that? Your a smart man but not so informed on this one.
I trust the Electronic Frontier Foundation, Choice and other community & consumer groups who have assessed the legislation and called in favor of preserving Net Neutrality. I can also say that all the network engineers, App, BIS & ERP teams, Business Analysts, Facilities & Comms management at my work all say the same. Ben has no understanding on this subject and has no place getting involved trying to be a spokes mouth. He just wants to pay the rent and it shows.
Beside ur example being a blatant strawman argument: To a certain extend we do have that. There are price regulations all over the food industry, which no surprise the industry wants to have erased. Also it's called "Internet SERVICE provider" for a reaseon: Their job is to provide the transfer of the data, as a service. The issue is that those are also owning content companies. That's where the capitalist oligarchy causes issues due to conflicting interests. If you want a comparison: Think of car lanes on the highway: Pay a 100$ per month and you can use the special fast lane. But you also need to buy cars from special dealers and have them maintained in certified carshops. Why? Because we gotta keep our shareholders happy, so fuck you consumer.
Charaykee Shilla you don't know how this works. OMG. The ISP already charges the customer for whatever they want. Sheesh. Your just repeating what Ben says. Net nuetrality says that the ISP cannot speed up UA-cam and slow down Vimeo. It cannot block Netflix and charge you extra for access. The ISP does not create anything on the web. They only give you access to this web. They already charge you on how much of the web you use and how fast you go. Now with net nuetrality gone they can also charge you based on what you see! Going back to the water company scenario. Do you believe that the water company should charge you more to wash your car than to wash your body? I would hope not. Water is water and you get charged by the gallon. If the water charged you a dollar per gallon for car washing and 10c a gallon for showers would you be ok with that???
I like Ben a lot, because he is very honest and does his research. That's why he's so hard to beat i na debate. Unfortunately he really doesn't know what he's talking about here, and it would be nice to hear his response to this ua-cam.com/video/oInAlTKlw64/v-deo.html
I like him overall and I think he is one of the "good guys." However I don't think he is the genius a lot of people seem to think he is. And he can come off as a little arrogant and condescending at times. Not saying I could do a better job, he obviously works hard and being on camera and being perfect is not easy.
Reguardless if it’s implications the fact that they ignored all public opinion even though they are supposed to be open to public opinion is pretty frightening.
charming 2.0 You guys are so fallacious. When Ben Shapiro is finally wrong on something, you go "I'm so surprised he's wrong on this issue, and so blind. How?!" Ben usually takes conservative far-right positions on most topics. This is no exception. Quite being surprised your jewish god, Ben, is no god of reason after all.
MrShaiya96 I'm not surprised he has been wrong before but this time it does because of how much research he usually does he didn't do it this time that's why im surprised he didn't double check himself instead he just talked with pie guy then that's that and nothing more that's what bothers me
charming 2.0 I am not into politics but if this guy got you into politics you are following an idiot leading you down the wrong path he has so much hatred he will go against his own self-interest I have been in telecommunications since 1995 net neutrality has been around since 1996 Obama just expanded it but now is there so much hate in the air they think they can kill it all and say look it was Obama's law no they know what they're doing this guy here knows what he's doing who do you think pays his bills you are a sucker to believe this fool
Don't let this distract you from the the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, Bubba "Spare Tire" Dixon.
Shapiro had me dying! “haha 😈now we got grandma in the cross hairs 🎯were gonna make her pay up! She wants her crochet website up there!?!? hahahah! gotta double her price!”💵💵💸💸
Exactly. It is only an issue because ISPs do have a monopoly. And while they do, the threat is potentially as bad as what the hysterical people are saying. We have given those corporations with a monopoly, the freedom to extort everyone. They might not go all the way, but they might, and even if they don't, there is no value that can be added by slowing down speeds. So basically we are allowing things to get worse, either a bit worse, or total dystopia worse. In exchange, there is no theoretical gain for society of the consumer.
Charaykee Shilla sorry maybe I should have put a period. Lol I agree with what ur saying all I was saying is we’ve always been limited to 2 per area and it’s bullcrap, sometimes 1. Some people are stuck with DSL
Charaykee Shilla Yes it limits them from manipulating information and favoring certain websites over others. How is this wrong? If a certain ISP wanted to shut down Ben Shapiro all they have to do is block all his internet content and if that is your ISP you have absolutely no choice to go somewhere else. Most of america is in an ISP monopoly. Do you think its ok if an ISP completely blocks ben just because they dont like his political beliefs? Its bad enough that UA-cam and Facebook tries to censor right wing politics. Do you want ISP's to do that too?
Net neutrality limits ISP's ability to charge different fees and tier services. In most industries, we want companies to have the freedom to do this, in the case of the internet, a select few ISPs have a monopoly, and the internet is such an essential utility, to give these ISP's full power to do anything, while there is no healthy competition, is terrible. Net neutrality is just a band aid, on top of a mess of politics and law. In a bubble, it might not make sense, but in the world we live in, its the only solution we have right now, and taking it away makes no sense.
I came here expecting what I normally see when watching a Ben video but got none of it. What's going on? Where are the facts, the reasons why people shouldn't worry, and other informative arguments. This video was just pure ribbing and joking on the people speaking out against the repeal of net neutrality. This is the first time I've ever been so disappointed in a Ben Shapiro video so as to give it a dislike.
TheElemynt You guys are fallacious. When Ben Shapiro is finally wrong, you go "I'm so surprised he's wrong on this issue. , and so blind. How?!" Ben usually takes conservative far right positions on most topics. This is no exception. Quite being surprised your jewish god, Ben, is no god of reason after all.
This is just a part of his podcast though. He goes more in depth in the whole show. You might not agree with his stance but he did make his case throughout the show.
clovehitch no you idiot everything is gone there are no rules three companies own the internet and make the rules I've been working in Telecommunications since 1995 you let your hatred for a couple people's go against your own self-interest and no I'm not into politics
I'm confused and have questions. If all data has to be provided at the same speed under 'net neutrality' doesn't that hurt small ISPs who may not capable of providing, say, video content at the same speed as email? In the areas where there is currently only one or a couple of ISPs, wouldn't word spread pretty quickly if they were to start inhibiting people's ability to access certain content? And if so, wouldn't the risk of bad publicity and potentially boycotts in other more competitive areas in which they may operate prevent them from engaging in such anti-competitive practices? Isn't it better for consumers to have the choice of fine-tuning which services they would like if they can get a cheaper deal? Wouldn't it still be in the interest of ISPs to offer customers the option of an internet service under net neutrality conditions? Is it not a good thing that customers have the option to not pay for access to Twitter, UA-cam, Netflix, if they wish, and instead opt for less well-known alternatives for which ISPs would presumably charge less? Wouldn't this also increase competition?
People are not going to notice that big of changes with this, they just like things to be over dramatic about. I’ve also noticed that this isn’t a right vs left issues, it’s a capitalist vs socialist issue. The left just tend to highly pick and choose where they want the government to intervene.
guillaume958 again... capitalism over socialism. Even though I too may get screwed in this situation, government should have no goddam say in how people run their businesses. This literally allows the internet to be treated like television. Not to mention the fact that a lot of lower ISPs got put out of business because they could not keep up with the standards set by net neutrality. This has opened up a competitive market and it’s going to be the ISPs underbidding each other for customers now. Some people might even get cheaper internet. You do not know. So again, don’t bitch about it, until the negative thing happens.
No, wanting reasonable restrictions to be put on powerful corporations to stop them from abusing their power doesn't equate to socialism. "the fact that a lot of lower ISPs got put out of business because they could not keep up with the standards set by net neutrality. " This is wrong and delusional considering the context. You really think that big ISPs like Comcast seek to help competition? Net Neutrality changes nothing in terms of the start up price of setting up an ISP company. It doesn't change the cost of operating that particular business either. Whether that 1 GB of data came from Netflix or your basement, it costs the same amount of money from that company to send it from sender to receiver. By opposing Net Neutrality, you are giving them the power to artificially discriminate and slow down the data from selected websites. Or charge you more for Data from selected websites. For example, Comcast might decide to charge you 200% more for data that comes from X websites. Or they might sign a deal with Hulu and decide to slow down Netflix for their customers. There is absolutely no upside to this. Anything you might've heard about it reducing investments, deterring competition or any other bullshit made up by literal shills Is just that, Bullshit that's been debunked a million times over. You are drinking the Kool-aid my friend.
guillaume958 guillaume958 1. The government still has regulations in place. For example, the ISPs legally have to tell us what they are doing. These are in place to assure that the choice of the consumer is the only thing that can screw them over. In that case, it’s time to be more informed instead of being as retarded as most consumers are nowadays. 2. Wanting the government to have control over major things like what companies sell, and how they sell it is the exact opposite of capitalism, and more on par with socialistic ideals. You gonna tell Mcdonalds they have to sell the McRib year round? You gonna force target to price match with Walmart? No, because you don’t care that much about that topic. There are things like medication that cost less than $1 to fill a bottle, which companies sell for over $100. None of you bitch about that. Why? Again, cuz you don’t care about that. 3. The internet was fine before 2015 and will be fine long after. 4. “ISPs could do this.” Sure they could, but they won’t make any life altering decisions that you all are acting like will happen. These businesses won’t succeed if they do things that will utterly frustrate their customers. I’ll come back here in a year to show you that. 5. No they don’t want competition, they want more control of their company. Competition is what happens when that control is given. They will be underbidding each other like the phone companies and cable companies do now. Nobody is “drinking kool-aid” we just aren’t doomsday prepping when there is no sign of doomsday. Let’s say for instance, everything you mentioned will happen for sure, if that’s the most you have to worry about, what a simple life you must have.... again though, let’s see who gets to tell who “I told ya so” in a few months.
1. That's irrelevant to the subject and I'm pretty sure they don't have to. There's been multiple cases where ISPs have done some behind the scenes fuckery that was exposed later on. You can easily find these cases with a few google searches. 2. Putting restriction on ISPs does not equal giving the government control of the internet. It is not socialism since ISPs are still privately run companies operating in a capitalist system. Your comparisons are also shit by the way. Net Neutrality is in no way comparable to the fucking McRib or any other type of food. I also don't care about your statement on medication cost because I'm not american so I don't deal with your shit medical system. 3. Net neutrality has been around since 1996. What Obama did in 2015 was change it from title one to title two. This was done to make Net Neutrality more enforceable because companies were constantly violating the law. 4. This is where I show you how shit your McRib comparison is. Compare the cost of making and selling sandwiches versus the cost of setting up your own ISP. ISPs especially in the US are giant oligopolies who already fuck over their customers all the time with their Cable. Comcast was already a meme long before this whole fiasco started but nobody can do jack shit because the market is very limited. A lot of Americans find themselves with very few options or in some cases no options at all. 5. Don't be so naive. If Net Neutrality is to fall then companies will take their time. They know this is a hot issue. They might even do some fun stuff for their customers for some PR but you'll come to realize what a mistake this was when these giant now unstoppable corporations are given the power to slow down their competitors, block websites they don't like, bully websites into paying them for standard internet speed thus killing most up-and-coming websites in their cribs, charge you extra for data that come from websites that aren't part of their special package. They won't do it immediately or even openly. Could even be a few years down the road but these fucks didn't push this hard for nothing. Torrenting and known Streaming sites will probably be the first to go down. Then you can expect some small internet packaging changes that will add up over time and so on and so on.
guillaume958 the McRib could be a car or a plane even. And the fact that you say we have a “shit medical system” proves you agree with things being socialized. Which is fine, but be consistent at least. Regardless, Internet is not a right or a necessity. It is a service and a convenience that we as humans rely very heavily on. That’s the only reason this is an issue. There is this bullshit irrational fear that it is all over and it simply is not. If cable type packages and slower speeds on certain sites is the worst you have to worry about, your life is a fucking cake walk. Either way, we don’t know what will happen, so might as well wait and see at this point, before being upset when nothing is wrong yet.
We've always had net neutrality, we've just never had it on the books since 2015, prior to that year, ISP's were classified as Title I and not Title II, but Verizon has always tried to be fully unregulated and not be classified as Title I and Title II which is exactly what happened
The problem is in the far majority of the USA, there is really only one option for internet. Net neutrality means that a monopoly like ComCast can't slow your internet connection speed whenever you connect to a website that isn't owned by or partnered with ComCast in some way. And yes, ComCast was doing this already before the current net neutrality laws took effect. It's not about the end of the internet, it's about the end of real freedom of speech and equal opportunity on the internet. Two issues which every conservative should want to protect, not oppose. Internet is information. And information is as important as water and electricity. These other things have appropriately strict regulations, information should have the same.
He is only pro neutrality because he does know what its even means... He is ending it because Obama net neutrality was his policy.... Obama was pro net neutrality and Trump tough that means its bad for internet... now he hired this Aijt for highest position possible and now he is ruining the internet.. This why you should never elect stupid people that has no clue as president. Trump is not doing anything to stop this because he wants corporates to steal your money. same with the tax reforms and Healthcare.. This will tears everybody tears.. not just liberal.
Titanfall222 jorge I can tell English isn't your first language, which is definitely why none of that made sense. It isn't anything to do with Trump approving or blocking the vote, though - he has no say whatsoever.
As much as I hate Jimmy Kimmel I want net neutrality. Imagine if the electric company could determine what appliances you could use "oh you need the power tools package for $14.99"
You remember how bad the internet was in 2015? It was a terrible place. The world was in the stone ages. Thank god over the last two years the internet became perfect
Henry Burris ah yes the good old competition argument. Sounds great until you realise about half of the American population have the option of only 1 ISP due to said ISP owning the infrastructure in those areas and obviously won't lease their infrastructure to other companies. It wouldn't be a problem if there were 100s of options to choose from.
No you fucking idiots. If companies did that, most people would not be able to afford it and switch to a minor competitor! And those people who say that there is no competition, are liars! There is competition. There are thousands of local ISPs that you can switch to if this gets real serious!
Being anti-free market is beyond strange to me. It's crazy how people get about Net Neutrality without fully understanding it. Let the companies compete for prices. We do that for everything else. Except health care.
Ben Shapiro, too much of a conservative republican. As always, one party thinks it’s right over the other. Do you want freedom of internet? Or do you want slow lanes but fast lanes on websites and services your providers favor?
thank you! some people get too full of themselves when they get a large following that they will do anything to push the agenda of their party. if he were soooo smart then why doesnt he know more about this topic than Kimmel? thats cause he was paid to say this. thats why ajit was in a video with someone from breitbart recently.
BrothersGamingTV exactly. I used to lol this guy but he's clearly just trying to manipulate his audience by telling them this supports less government regulation. I agree there should be less govt regulation but not absolutely none. The govt needs to regulate this or else the corporations can literally do whatever the fuck they want
Chris Pyle saying that you know more about something than kimmel is a pretty low bar to begin with, but the fact that he is on the wrong side of the issue shows that he is very ignorant
No. It is never a fair statement to categorically assume you know more than the other guy unless you have a record of study in that field. Talk about the issue, not your level of expertise.
I know absolutely nothing about net neutrality but I kept seeing people on my twitter talking about how insane it was, how it would be the end of the Internet, and to text “resist” to 50409... and I proceeded by doing nothing because I figured if liberals were making a huge deal about it there was a 100% chance that they were over exaggerating
Ben, you don’t understand net neutrality either. Don’t pretend you do. You have an opinion on net neutrality that was formed by widespread information on it. As a man who has respected you for so long due to your quick-witted arguments and use of facts, I am disgusted by your clear ignorance and lack of research on this topic that you have made SEVERAL videos about.
Ricardo Vazquez I’m aware of what he said, but that does not excuse the fact that he has misinformation, implying that he either failed to do research or his research was heavily biased in favor of the FCC. Either way, he failed to produce accurate news and, as such, deserves ridicule. When CNN and Fox produce false news, it is almost always called out. The Daily Wire should be no different.
He isn't an expert and could be wrong, but why is he against it? he doesn't know how it works and hasn't even taken the time to inform himself. He is just going with the idea that ALL regulations are the devil. That is a foolish stance to take, some regulations are needed in any modern government.
NoobifiedSpartan You guys are fallacious. When Ben Shapiro is finally wrong, you go "I'm so surprised he's wrong on this issue. , and so blind. How?!" Ben usually takes conservative far right positions on most topics. This is no exception. Quite being surprised your jewish god, Ben, is no god of reason after all.
Lotty oh now you see when it affects your life you don't agree do you ever think a lot of things Obama did was the right thing to do but it didn't affect your life so you believe idiots like this I think the world starting to wake they've been lying to you the whole damn time now you're starting to see
"I'm not an expert on net neutrality, I don't pretend to be an expert on net neutrality" then get an expert on the show to explain it. You're getting lazy Ben!
Chrisdaman417 Look into the history of NN and what it was originally supposed to do and who benefitted from it and who is REALLY in control... If u are for a free market then you cannot support NN. On the surface (and if your listen to Kimmel) this sounds wrong but thats where the details and history and outcome need to be looked at! Seriously NN isnt all that its cracked up to be! Its a government tool and NOW its not!
Walter Spencer I'm not into politics Steve kind of people are ruining mean America you don't see their bought and paid for they follow the Rush model everything on the other side is bad no matter what it is but now it is gotten so worse with Trump in there it is almost become tribalistic anything he does cannot be wrong it's the other side no we're all Americans and to tell you the truth if you watch this guy you're getting played man
Ben Shapiro doesn't have the basic facts about what net neutrality is and what it does from the consumers which really makes his onion on the matter counter productive. I normally follow Ben and like this views but i couldn't disagree more here. Its disappointing because a lot of people take his word for it and dont question the views for Themselves so they blindly follow his premise which is completely misunderstood. Its ironic he sais Jimmy Kimmel doesnt know what hes talking about because Ben doesnt know what hes talking about either when it comes to net neutrality
What the hell do you mean “I don’t know what qualifies him to talk about these things”. Dude it’s freedom of speech. He is just as qualified as you are.
Net neutrality is a debate on whether or not the internet should be regulated as a public utility. Do you think that the internet is ubiquitous enough to be regulated like a utility? I do, that's why I want the government to regulate it, that's why I want net neutrality.
How can this guys criticize Kimmel when he doesn't make a single substantive point...? Kimmel is vacuous, but at least he is more personable than this other vacuous knob.
So I recently heard about net neutrality and as a result I’m uneducated in this area and would like to hear the argument from both side to see where I stand.
The problem with the end of net neutrality is the isp can now charge more simply because we will accept this as a reality. Communications infrastructure is less difficult to produce than are profits. One could say we have reached a point where it is not profitabke to produce it. Remove Title II and expand the market as necessary. We end up ruining everything anyhow.
I still don't understand net neutrality all that much, but I don't recall ever having trouble with the internet pre-neutrality days. It's not like my quality of internet went up when net neutrality passed. I honestly never would've even knew it passed except for hearing other people talk about it. And from what I understand now, instead of the internet being regulated by the FCC, it is going to be regulated by the FTC. I don't know what that means, but I also don't see an end to the internet as we know it today.
We see something like this in Mexico, modelo pays bars to only sell modelo beers. Netflix will be able to pay Comcast to only show Netflix and ban Hulu or even youtube. Amazon could be able to pay Verizon so it's the only online retailer and ban grandma's crochet store
what was he even talking about for the first two minutes of this? He just went off on an exaggerated, illogical rant. He added nothing to this discussion and just says " I know more about it than Kimmel". Yes...then tell us about it. That's why we're all here...*video ends*
Ben I have deep respect for you but I’d like you to look closer on this one you don’t have me convinced, I’d like to keep net neutrality myself and I think it is a big deal.
Net Neutrality could only be put in place by regulating the internet AS A UTILITY. If the internet is a utility then the FCC has the power to grant a total monopoly to any company they want to. This is why it needed to be repealed. It had nothing to do with the net neutrality regulations themselves, because no one really objected to those. The objection had to do with the potential collateral damage. By the way, if you think the FCC would not grant a monopoly to some company like comcast eventually if they have the power to do so then you haven't paid attention to reality. the FCC has already done this with other utilities. They would obviously do it again if they have the power.
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why is this a left/right thing?
because obama supported it so naturally the right must oppose it
Because your orange master hired this fucking Aiji shit for Chairman of the FCC and Republicans are not doing anything for stoping what he is doing because the small minority cult 20% are against the net neutrality.
Obama were pro net neutrality. He approved net neutrality.. Trump is trying to destroyed it.
its not really. pundits and talk show hosts treat it like it is. 80 of the public are in favor of it. pretty sure that means both sides want it. the republicans who wanted it overturned are being bribed, and talk show hosts like ben trust them a little too much sometimes. Although, ben is usually really good at calling his side on this shit. Sad to see him wrong on this one.
Because it's a question of how much governmental regulation is necessary, which typically the left is in favor of more and the right is in favor of less.
Jimmy Kimmel doesn't understand a lot of things...
Erin Mack That's an understatement
Like his job
There are things that Jimmy DOES understand?
And Ben Shapiro is clearly clever and smart when it comes to politics and laws. But he doesn't know how technology works or the actual implications of the removal of Net Neutrality.
Republicans saw "Oh, Barrack Obama is in favor of Net Neutrality. We must destroy it then."
Net Neutrality was always there prior to 2015. But in 2014, the ISP companies wanted to be greedy and force websites to pay an extra fee on them for people to access their website.
Except that's not how the internet works.
Without Net Neutrality. Then ISP who are supposed to give you the constant speed and data that to you paid for. Now they'll be able to slow down the speed to dial up status extremely slow so that you don't get to access these websites anymore.
Then they'll charge big companies money for the privilege to access your website.
So if say the Daily Wire wants to maintain their viewers, the ISP will ask you a fee so that people can see your website despite the fact that people are already paying for the service which is ridiculous.
So if Daily Wire wants to maintain it's business model and have subscribers, part of that money will have to go to Comcast, forcing you to charge more to your viewers.
Net Neutrality prevents Road Blocks but now the internet will be censored more than ever and little guy like Daily Wire will suffer from this.
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If you're not an expert bring one on!
Holy shit Ben, you literally have no idea how net neutrality works.
Remember when people like you thought this would destroy the Internet?
Worker at comcast told me they had a meeting discussing this. He said his upper management said one of the things included in the repeal is that the ISPs can look at what you look up without a court order, so every link you visit is not private anymore.
That is what he told me, do with it as you like.
Invid of INP I can no longer Google "Asian high school rape fantasies, and poop" anymore..
you haven't a clue what your talking about sir you know shit nothing
Invid of INP You mean what Google does now? Or the NSA? Why does everyone believe the bullshit fear mongering? Title II was made back in 2015, friends. Nothing has changed since then besides a grinding halt of technological innovation.
hiblast629 actually title 2 was 1936
Jack Sylvester That's Title I friend, in 2015 it became Title II
Ben you have no idea what you are talking about..
jawwsh r you have no idea what your talking about 3 years ago net neutrality didn't exist
Daway Legit idk what you're talking about, but it's not socialism. It just limits the power of already monopolized ISPs
"I'm not an expert on net neutrality."
You should've ended it right there Ben.
46 and 2 Pops He understands it better than 99% of you people commenting
AwesomePossum Based on what?
AwesomePossum No. He didn't do his research
Yappy Raccoon He doesn't know how the internet works and his "crystal clear logic" can be easily debunked by actual experts on the field. Sheeps like you who act like Ben is right all the time are hilarious.
this grown up Damien looking fuck is lying through his teeth in this video.
Seems like you dont understand net neutrality either
In Debt College Student how?
Dan The Man
Well first off he said he wasn’t an expert on it. Come on man
Yappy Raccoon the same can now be said about you.
Janno_O no because yappy didn't make a claim
X3C are you fucking blind? Yappy literally assumed that In Debt College Student was a "typical moron" who "can never explain himself" because "he doesn't make sense"
This is undoubtedly his most ignorant video. Most of the things he said can be refuted with a two second google search. Come on Ben.
Remember when people like you thought this would destroy the Internet?
@@sublimesense7761 what?
At the end of the day, the question that you should ask yourself: who do you trust more with the future of the internet government or the free market?
Considering that the capital needed to have a company compete in this industry is insane I think government needs to play a role. For much of the country there is only one ISP provider in their area and this will not change any time soon.
MrDonManny i hope you meant the government or monopolies
@@yangziouhci7014 News media was a textbook example of market failure in our time. It is more profitable to lie for the rich, so that's what they did. Deregulation made it worse because companies in unrelated sectors can own media houses.
Viewers making informed decisions on who funds the media they consume is like expecting the average person to understand the fine print legalese used in apps to get permission to steal your data
So making it so that all web domains have to be carried make it possible for smaller websites to compete with the Netflixes and Googles.
Not to mention, not having net neutrality makes it extremely easy for bigger companies to block competition by simply paying ISPs to not carry them.
Kinda like Robinhood dropping GameStop stock
An ISP slowed down speeds for Netflix users a few years back. Then charged Netflix a ton of money for their users to be able to use the site at a regular speed again.
'twas Comcast.
This is a good thing considering the amount of resources Netflix uses up in comparison to most other web services. Netflix cost ISPs a fortune so it's only fair that they pay for that
If ISP's can't handle that sort of bandwidth, that's their fault, not Netflix's fault, nor the Netflix consumer's fault.
A consumer should not pay for a service that can be throttled at any time for using certain websites. If someone pays for 100mb down speeds, and unlimited download size, they should get that.
I agree with the last thing you said, the consumer should get the service they pay for, but if Netflix causes heavy strain on the network then that prevents the ISP from providing this service, so I think it's perfectly reasonable for the ISP to charge Netflix.
And it is the fault of Netflix since it's a poorly engineered service, there are much more efficient ways in which they could serve their media to avoid these issues.
Maybe I'm slightly biased since I would never support a streaming service such as Netflix or Spotify but I don't think what I'm saying is unreasonable
Billy Carlyle even if they were more efficient it wouldn't matter, they are a service that provides up to 4k streaming, of long movies and entire TV series, it's always going to take A LOT of bandwidth. And it's also almost ubiquitous among Internet users, most households have Netflix. ISP's need to cater to demand, it doesn't matter how Netflix engineered their system, if no one used it, they wouldn't use a lot of bandwidth.
You are obviously wrong here Ben sorry
How, though? I don't really understand this whole issue, so how is he wrong?
you need customer protection, fast lanes are going to be abused by large ISPs and most people in US have very small selection of ISPs anyway. As an economist I can say this is 100% going to be against consumer. Imagine you have 2 options : comcast and verizon. They both increase prices on your favourite sites and charge extra. You like this? If net neutrality exists they cannot do this, there is a law that protects us, consumers from getting exploited from such profit opportunities. If you are for non-regulated internet = you are against every single user on internet and small-medium corporations and their websites. Ben is totally wrong since repealing net neutrality does not benefit ANYONE but large few corporations from making more money. This is not about reporting "freedom", this is turning on Anarchy valve.
consumer choice and competition is the best protection.
there will be NO consumer choice at all if net neutrality is repealed! how are you missing this point????
Song Bird LMAO ur a dumb ass. That's like saying pump and dump schemes should be legal because if someone is stupid enough to buy my stock that's worth 1 penny for $1000 then let them. That's called fraud buddy.
A more eye catching title would be "Things Jimmy Kimmel does understand."
Ben I agree with you on a lot of things but I am gonna have to disagree with your opinion on net neutrality.
Anthony Maldonado You guys are so fallacious. When Ben Shapiro is finally wrong on something, you go "I'm so surprised he's wrong on this issue, and so blind. How?!" Ben usually takes conservative far-right positions on most topics. This is no exception. Quite being surprised your jewish god, Ben, is no god of reason after all.
Anthony Maldonado you disagree with him that's funny he's a political hack always supposed to do is disagree with the other side you shouldn't listen to a guy like this I'm not even in the politics but I've noticed the people on the rightmost of their channels are like this everything is bad on the left no matter what it is that's how they keep going disable find somebody to agree with them you are a fool to watch this guy
MrShaiya96
quit copy pasting your nonsense at everyone who simply says they disagree with ben. nobody is expressing that kind of surprise you are trying to project on them. what a creep
MrShaiya96
Boi, just because this guy agrees with Bens on most things. Doesn’t mean he sees Ben as a God.
As others have pointed out, Ben Shapiro doesn't understand Net Neutrality. There is an entertaining UA-cam video exposing just how ignorant he is called "Ben Shapiro debunked by a network engineer on net neutrality."
I'm curious to see how much daily wire will now have to pay for the bandwidth needed to stream their shows
the exact same they've been paying since they signed their contract with their ISP. The internet was just fine up till 2015 prior to net neutrality, it will be fine after it as well.
Less according to projections I've seen.
Robert N net neutrality began in 1996. In 2015 Obama changed it from title 1 to title 2 to stop ISPs from throttling due to a legal loophole. The FCC has reverted it back to before the 1996 NN.
+Dibby No. The FCC repealed Title II, not Title I. Stop lying. This is the most lied about subject iv'e ever seen.
Zachary Shuhart they repealed Title II but they also aren't Title I anymore. Both regulations have now been repealed meaning ISP can now put in fast lanes what can make daily wire slower than CNN since CNN pays the ISP more.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO PAY FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS EVERY GOOGLE SEARCH
Ryan from Ryan nah, you might have to pay for fast internet on some websites though
Matt TheDestroyer 2 I'm poking fun at the overreactions on the internet
Ryan from Ryan -- Again, you don't understand how this works.
Now you have a good reason to stop using google!
Ryan from Ryan well, u better make it a good one
Ben doesn't understand the problem of throttling. T&T for example tried to stop iphone users from facetiming. They also throttled a live stream. Verizon, at&t and time warner tried to block apps on the google play store.
sorry but i doubt you understand the problem any better.
autumnride6
I'm not wrong about these throttling practices, which btw occured before NN was implemented.
Remember when people like you thought this would destroy the Internet?
Actually Ben, you are right about one thing.. you don't know about net neutrality. No one does care about grandma's crochet website, until that website starts to grow and it's starts to pop up on the ISPs radar, so they decide to pressure them to pay to use their lines, but they can't and the establish crochet website can. What then. So the point is not to paint issues as liberal or conservative but as just issues. Anybody who doesn't financially gain from this will only financially lose and lose big. Do a little more research before you just attack something just because a liberal likes it.
Johann B do you actually watch these videos? He already said he wasnt an expert. He also discussed it with the fcc leader, which is why he chose the side that he did. Instead of acting like you understand his pov from the 3:41 video, go watch the 20 minute segment on his explanation from his point of view and from his understanding.
Zachary Fountain, I actually did watch and I know what head said, but that shows that he can not validate his opinion. If he has a show where all he all he does is give his opinion he should validate it. Talking to the head of the FCC and bring his mouthpiece is pointless.
Willy Annoying, how about the time attention and Verizon blocked tether function on phones only to give you the option to pay $20 for that function. How a bout the time they slowed Netflix until they paid a ransom. Who suffered? The people who paid for the ISP service and for Netflix. There are many more examples. I don't understand people like you, not doing research into an issue that will effect you and most people's everyday life. There is no way that removing this law will help the average person. Stop being a mouthpiece and have your own opinion.
Talking fast doesn't make you smart, it just reveals you are a corporate stooge.
Ben I agree on most things you discuss but honestly you don’t understand what net neutrality is, when it was created, what happened in 2015? Obama didn’t create net neutrality, he only reclassified it, net neutrality is basically the telecommunications act of 1996 where the internet provider can only provide the internet and the speed, you can choose which ever speed you like and pay for that, if you don’t want to pay for a 50mgb speed , you don’t have to, you can get a 5mgb plan and pay less. But I shouldn’t have to worry about what websites I can or can’t use based on the internet provider. Ben I’m a fan but you need to do more research on this.
Remember when people like you thought this would destroy the Internet?
Usually I agree with ya on some things Ben. However net neutrality is a good thing.
Gonser Ly. 3 years ago we had no neutrality and it was fine
zy lix OVER 22 years actually...
I notice conservatives/libertarians agree with the left in support of net neutrality because if you UNDERSTAND it you'd know when you pay MORE for speed and the site pays MORE for servers you should get what u pay for which is what net neturality ACTUALLY PROTECTS!
Net neutrality (ACTUALLY started) around 1996 and has helped fight the small number of large companies who have monopolies in many areas, like say many right wing rural areas, who try to take your $ and throttle out right wing sources (or any source) they dislike or are competing with. Enjoy censorship, or, as usual, think beyond left vs. right…There's a thing called karma and Dharma that God let dominate long before the left vs. right. I’ve details sources on that, & on other stuff I just said.
Examples: "Majority of Tea Partiers Back Net Neutrality Principles, Polling Shows" (morningconsult.com/2017/12/13/majority-of-tea-partiers-back-net-neutrality-principles-polling-shows) "3 out of 4 Republicans oppose the government's plan to repeal its net neutrality" www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2017/12/12/this-poll-gave-americans-a-detailed-case-for-and-against-the-fccs-net-neutrality-plan-the-reaction-among-republicans-was-striking/ "83 percent of voters support keeping FCC's net neutrality rules" www.google.com/search?q=poll+americans+support+net+neutrality&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1
Daway Legit how about the nearly 90% of people who support net neutrality?
Interesting how even people who like Shapiro, who I would assume are on the right, act the same way liberals do when they disagree. Ton of comments saying Shapiro is stupid because you dont agree with his opinion.
Deegs Deg Ben didn't do enough research but you can have a better understanding than him if you watch this ua-cam.com/video/oInAlTKlw64/v-deo.html
No, people are saying he is stupid not because we don't agree with his opinion, but because his opinion on this issue is in fact stupid.
Exactly, I want to see people making rational arguments and then we can get into a real debate, instead it’s just “Ben doesn’t know what he’s talking about’
@@macmos1 Remember when people like you thought this would destroy the Internet?
“See the FCC won’t let me be, or let me be me so let me see, they try to shut me down on MTV but it feel’s so empty without me.”
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Said once by a wise man...
The surpise is Ben doesn't understand net neutrality.
Wow Ben, not only being completely wrong but insulting someone who is actually correct. Smh
Remember when people like you thought this would destroy the Internet?
Sorry but you're wrong on this one Ben.
MA Hu Net neutrality is stupid
How is he wrong? You don't get to just say he's wrong without qualifying yourself - why is he wrong? I want to know? I'm confused by this as a lot of other people are, and I haven't found anyone stepping it out clearly on either side of the discussion. I'm going back to listen to ua-cam.com/video/iu6o_IBCjjs/v-deo.html of Ben's to see if it clears up the confusion because I'd take Ben's information because he does very well at researching his data.
Chef Boyardank How is it stupid
When someone says that another person is wrong, they typically also include some reasoning as to WHY that person is wrong. Since you did not, we must deduce that you don't actually KNOW why you think he's wrong. Seriously, throw us a bone here, why is he wrong?
tropolite Hey there. If you want more actual information on how Net Neutrality works then just watch this vid ua-cam.com/video/oInAlTKlw64/v-deo.html
I'm not an expert on Net Neutrality.
*proceeds to argue why everyone else doesn't understand NN*
Happy Chanukah Ben! חג שמח
Ben. Ending net nuetrality may not kill the internet but it has the potential to make it really really suck. It also had the potential to silence people like yourself. Why would you support that? Your a smart man but not so informed on this one.
Maybe Ben he has a paid agenda. He's a Jew what can we really expect?
I trust the Electronic Frontier Foundation, Choice and other community & consumer groups who have assessed the legislation and called in favor of preserving Net Neutrality. I can also say that all the network engineers, App, BIS & ERP teams, Business Analysts, Facilities & Comms management at my work all say the same. Ben has no understanding on this subject and has no place getting involved trying to be a spokes mouth. He just wants to pay the rent and it shows.
Beside ur example being a blatant strawman argument: To a certain extend we do have that. There are price regulations all over the food industry, which no surprise the industry wants to have erased.
Also it's called "Internet SERVICE provider" for a reaseon: Their job is to provide the transfer of the data, as a service. The issue is that those are also owning content companies. That's where the capitalist oligarchy causes issues due to conflicting interests.
If you want a comparison: Think of car lanes on the highway: Pay a 100$ per month and you can use the special fast lane. But you also need to buy cars from special dealers and have them maintained in certified carshops. Why? Because we gotta keep our shareholders happy, so fuck you consumer.
i would think he is going to partner with sinclair or faux. the guy is a hack and these recent videos exposes him for who he really is.
Charaykee Shilla you don't know how this works. OMG. The ISP already charges the customer for whatever they want. Sheesh. Your just repeating what Ben says. Net nuetrality says that the ISP cannot speed up UA-cam and slow down Vimeo. It cannot block Netflix and charge you extra for access. The ISP does not create anything on the web. They only give you access to this web. They already charge you on how much of the web you use and how fast you go. Now with net nuetrality gone they can also charge you based on what you see! Going back to the water company scenario. Do you believe that the water company should charge you more to wash your car than to wash your body? I would hope not. Water is water and you get charged by the gallon. If the water charged you a dollar per gallon for car washing and 10c a gallon for showers would you be ok with that???
Ben Shapiro doesn't understand technology, and therefore should avoid speaking about it.
People think he is smart because he talks fast. But a lot of what he says is BS.
I like Ben a lot, because he is very honest and does his research. That's why he's so hard to beat i na debate. Unfortunately he really doesn't know what he's talking about here, and it would be nice to hear his response to this ua-cam.com/video/oInAlTKlw64/v-deo.html
I like him overall and I think he is one of the "good guys." However I don't think he is the genius a lot of people seem to think he is. And he can come off as a little arrogant and condescending at times. Not saying I could do a better job, he obviously works hard and being on camera and being perfect is not easy.
Reguardless if it’s implications the fact that they ignored all public opinion even though they are supposed to be open to public opinion is pretty frightening.
The irony is strong with this one
I love and respect Ben Shapiro and is the person who got me into politics but I do believe he is incorrect when it comes to net neutrality
charming 2.0 how?
charming 2.0 You guys are so fallacious. When Ben Shapiro is finally wrong on something, you go "I'm so surprised he's wrong on this issue, and so blind. How?!" Ben usually takes conservative far-right positions on most topics. This is no exception. Quite being surprised your jewish god, Ben, is no god of reason after all.
MrShaiya96 I'm not surprised he has been wrong before but this time it does because of how much research he usually does he didn't do it this time that's why im surprised he didn't double check himself instead he just talked with pie guy then that's that and nothing more that's what bothers me
charming 2.0 I am not into politics but if this guy got you into politics you are following an idiot leading you down the wrong path he has so much hatred he will go against his own self-interest I have been in telecommunications since 1995 net neutrality has been around since 1996 Obama just expanded it but now is there so much hate in the air they think they can kill it all and say look it was Obama's law no they know what they're doing this guy here knows what he's doing who do you think pays his bills you are a sucker to believe this fool
yeah charming that really pissed me off that his main source on this issue was Ajit Pai himself. how is that not biased as fuck
I basically always agree with you, but maybe YOU should have a debate with someone who knows what they're talking about because you obviously don't.
Remember when people like you thought this would destroy the Internet?
@@sublimesense7761 lol what
Don't let this distract you from the the fact that in 1966, Al Bundy scored four touchdowns in a single game while playing for the Polk High School Panthers in the 1966 city championship game versus Andrew Johnson High School, including the game-winning touchdown in the final seconds against his old nemesis, Bubba "Spare Tire" Dixon.
Shapiro had me dying! “haha 😈now we got grandma in the cross hairs 🎯were gonna make her pay up! She wants her crochet website up there!?!? hahahah! gotta double her price!”💵💵💸💸
Net neutrality is very important and we need more ISPs
Exactly. It is only an issue because ISPs do have a monopoly. And while they do, the threat is potentially as bad as what the hysterical people are saying. We have given those corporations with a monopoly, the freedom to extort everyone. They might not go all the way, but they might, and even if they don't, there is no value that can be added by slowing down speeds. So basically we are allowing things to get worse, either a bit worse, or total dystopia worse. In exchange, there is no theoretical gain for society of the consumer.
Charaykee Shilla sorry maybe I should have put a period. Lol I agree with what ur saying all I was saying is we’ve always been limited to 2 per area and it’s bullcrap, sometimes 1. Some people are stuck with DSL
Yappy Raccoon oh big bad words on the internet lol...go hide under a rock and get back to your posting on Instagram.
Charaykee Shilla Yes it limits them from manipulating information and favoring certain websites over others. How is this wrong? If a certain ISP wanted to shut down Ben Shapiro all they have to do is block all his internet content and if that is your ISP you have absolutely no choice to go somewhere else. Most of america is in an ISP monopoly. Do you think its ok if an ISP completely blocks ben just because they dont like his political beliefs? Its bad enough that UA-cam and Facebook tries to censor right wing politics. Do you want ISP's to do that too?
Net neutrality limits ISP's ability to charge different fees and tier services. In most industries, we want companies to have the freedom to do this, in the case of the internet, a select few ISPs have a monopoly, and the internet is such an essential utility, to give these ISP's full power to do anything, while there is no healthy competition, is terrible. Net neutrality is just a band aid, on top of a mess of politics and law. In a bubble, it might not make sense, but in the world we live in, its the only solution we have right now, and taking it away makes no sense.
I came here expecting what I normally see when watching a Ben video but got none of it. What's going on? Where are the facts, the reasons why people shouldn't worry, and other informative arguments. This video was just pure ribbing and joking on the people speaking out against the repeal of net neutrality. This is the first time I've ever been so disappointed in a Ben Shapiro video so as to give it a dislike.
TheElemynt You guys are fallacious. When Ben Shapiro is finally wrong, you go "I'm so surprised he's wrong on this issue.
, and so blind. How?!" Ben usually takes conservative far right positions on most topics. This is no exception. Quite being surprised your jewish god, Ben, is no god of reason after all.
This is just a part of his podcast though. He goes more in depth in the whole show. You might not agree with his stance but he did make his case throughout the show.
This is a short clip ya cry babies.
let me explain thoroughly he's trying to get paid so he tells you lies
Remember when people like you thought this would destroy the Internet?
Has CNN forgot who is about to buy them...
on one hand, I'm a foolish idiot. on the other hand, I'm an idiotic fool.
Net neutrality is probably the only thing I will agree with with Obama
Please explain why...
clovehitch other guy but thx!
clovehitch I've had a bad thought on it. I was really confused, jumping back and forth. With NN, but I think I actually got it. Thanks
end local regulations that hinder small isp from starting up. LIBERTARIANISM FOR ALL -Gone Lucid
clovehitch no you idiot everything is gone there are no rules three companies own the internet and make the rules I've been working in Telecommunications since 1995 you let your hatred for a couple people's go against your own self-interest and no I'm not into politics
ehhh... I think Net Neutrality is important
Exodus 2017 yeah
so you want the fcc to charge you for youtube?
Then you should be against "net neutrality".
ಠ_ಠ the consumer is the one who is going to get screwed most in the end
Heavy regulation hinders competition, which is what hurts the consumer in the end.
I'm confused and have questions.
If all data has to be provided at the same speed under 'net neutrality' doesn't that hurt small ISPs who may not capable of providing, say, video content at the same speed as email?
In the areas where there is currently only one or a couple of ISPs, wouldn't word spread pretty quickly if they were to start inhibiting people's ability to access certain content? And if so, wouldn't the risk of bad publicity and potentially boycotts in other more competitive areas in which they may operate prevent them from engaging in such anti-competitive practices?
Isn't it better for consumers to have the choice of fine-tuning which services they would like if they can get a cheaper deal?
Wouldn't it still be in the interest of ISPs to offer customers the option of an internet service under net neutrality conditions?
Is it not a good thing that customers have the option to not pay for access to Twitter, UA-cam, Netflix, if they wish, and instead opt for less well-known alternatives for which ISPs would presumably charge less? Wouldn't this also increase competition?
looks at video title sees video. Palpatine* "ironic"
People are not going to notice that big of changes with this, they just like things to be over dramatic about. I’ve also noticed that this isn’t a right vs left issues, it’s a capitalist vs socialist issue. The left just tend to highly pick and choose where they want the government to intervene.
guillaume958 again... capitalism over socialism. Even though I too may get screwed in this situation, government should have no goddam say in how people run their businesses. This literally allows the internet to be treated like television. Not to mention the fact that a lot of lower ISPs got put out of business because they could not keep up with the standards set by net neutrality. This has opened up a competitive market and it’s going to be the ISPs underbidding each other for customers now. Some people might even get cheaper internet. You do not know. So again, don’t bitch about it, until the negative thing happens.
No, wanting reasonable restrictions to be put on powerful corporations to stop them from abusing their power doesn't equate to socialism.
"the fact that a lot of lower ISPs got put out of business because they could not keep up with the standards set by net neutrality. "
This is wrong and delusional considering the context. You really think that big ISPs like Comcast seek to help competition? Net Neutrality changes nothing in terms of the start up price of setting up an ISP company. It doesn't change the cost of operating that particular business either.
Whether that 1 GB of data came from Netflix or your basement, it costs the same amount of money from that company to send it from sender to receiver. By opposing Net Neutrality, you are giving them the power to artificially discriminate and slow down the data from selected websites. Or charge you more for Data from selected websites. For example, Comcast might decide to charge you 200% more for data that comes from X websites. Or they might sign a deal with Hulu and decide to slow down Netflix for their customers.
There is absolutely no upside to this. Anything you might've heard about it reducing investments, deterring competition or any other bullshit made up by literal shills Is just that, Bullshit that's been debunked a million times over.
You are drinking the Kool-aid my friend.
guillaume958 guillaume958 1. The government still has regulations in place. For example, the ISPs legally have to tell us what they are doing. These are in place to assure that the choice of the consumer is the only thing that can screw them over. In that case, it’s time to be more informed instead of being as retarded as most consumers are nowadays. 2. Wanting the government to have control over major things like what companies sell, and how they sell it is the exact opposite of capitalism, and more on par with socialistic ideals. You gonna tell Mcdonalds they have to sell the McRib year round? You gonna force target to price match with Walmart? No, because you don’t care that much about that topic. There are things like medication that cost less than $1 to fill a bottle, which companies sell for over $100. None of you bitch about that. Why? Again, cuz you don’t care about that. 3. The internet was fine before 2015 and will be fine long after. 4. “ISPs could do this.” Sure they could, but they won’t make any life altering decisions that you all are acting like will happen. These businesses won’t succeed if they do things that will utterly frustrate their customers. I’ll come back here in a year to show you that. 5. No they don’t want competition, they want more control of their company. Competition is what happens when that control is given. They will be underbidding each other like the phone companies and cable companies do now. Nobody is “drinking kool-aid” we just aren’t doomsday prepping when there is no sign of doomsday. Let’s say for instance, everything you mentioned will happen for sure, if that’s the most you have to worry about, what a simple life you must have.... again though, let’s see who gets to tell who “I told ya so” in a few months.
1. That's irrelevant to the subject and I'm pretty sure they don't have to. There's been multiple cases where ISPs have done some behind the scenes fuckery that was exposed later on. You can easily find these cases with a few google searches.
2. Putting restriction on ISPs does not equal giving the government control of the internet. It is not socialism since ISPs are still privately run companies operating in a capitalist system. Your comparisons are also shit by the way. Net Neutrality is in no way comparable to the fucking McRib or any other type of food. I also don't care about your statement on medication cost because I'm not american so I don't deal with your shit medical system.
3. Net neutrality has been around since 1996. What Obama did in 2015 was change it from title one to title two. This was done to make Net Neutrality more enforceable because companies were constantly violating the law.
4. This is where I show you how shit your McRib comparison is. Compare the cost of making and selling sandwiches versus the cost of setting up your own ISP. ISPs especially in the US are giant oligopolies who already fuck over their customers all the time with their Cable. Comcast was already a meme long before this whole fiasco started but nobody can do jack shit because the market is very limited. A lot of Americans find themselves with very few options or in some cases no options at all.
5. Don't be so naive. If Net Neutrality is to fall then companies will take their time. They know this is a hot issue. They might even do some fun stuff for their customers for some PR but you'll come to realize what a mistake this was when these giant now unstoppable corporations are given the power to slow down their competitors, block websites they don't like, bully websites into paying them for standard internet speed thus killing most up-and-coming websites in their cribs, charge you extra for data that come from websites that aren't part of their special package.
They won't do it immediately or even openly. Could even be a few years down the road but these fucks didn't push this hard for nothing. Torrenting and known Streaming sites will probably be the first to go down. Then you can expect some small internet packaging changes that will add up over time and so on and so on.
guillaume958 the McRib could be a car or a plane even. And the fact that you say we have a “shit medical system” proves you agree with things being socialized. Which is fine, but be consistent at least. Regardless, Internet is not a right or a necessity. It is a service and a convenience that we as humans rely very heavily on. That’s the only reason this is an issue. There is this bullshit irrational fear that it is all over and it simply is not. If cable type packages and slower speeds on certain sites is the worst you have to worry about, your life is a fucking cake walk. Either way, we don’t know what will happen, so might as well wait and see at this point, before being upset when nothing is wrong yet.
Ben Shapiro paid by Verizon.
We've always had net neutrality, we've just never had it on the books since 2015, prior to that year, ISP's were classified as Title I and not Title II, but Verizon has always tried to be fully unregulated and not be classified as Title I and Title II which is exactly what happened
The problem is in the far majority of the USA, there is really only one option for internet. Net neutrality means that a monopoly like ComCast can't slow your internet connection speed whenever you connect to a website that isn't owned by or partnered with ComCast in some way. And yes, ComCast was doing this already before the current net neutrality laws took effect. It's not about the end of the internet, it's about the end of real freedom of speech and equal opportunity on the internet. Two issues which every conservative should want to protect, not oppose. Internet is information. And information is as important as water and electricity. These other things have appropriately strict regulations, information should have the same.
Of course blame trump, trumps pro net Neutrality isnt he?
Matt TheDestroyer 2 Trump is anti net neutrality
He is only pro neutrality because he does know what its even means... He is ending it because Obama net neutrality was his policy.... Obama was pro net neutrality and Trump tough that means its bad for internet... now he hired this Aijt for highest position possible and now he is ruining the internet.. This why you should never elect stupid people that has no clue as president. Trump is not doing anything to stop this because he wants corporates to steal your money. same with the tax reforms and Healthcare.. This will tears everybody tears.. not just liberal.
Titanfall222 jorge I can tell English isn't your first language, which is definitely why none of that made sense.
It isn't anything to do with Trump approving or blocking the vote, though - he has no say whatsoever.
@chucknorris power Who appointed Pai?
It's true, Pai was appointed by Obama. The full story is that Trump appointed him as chairman, though, we can't leave that out.
As much as I hate Jimmy Kimmel I want net neutrality. Imagine if the electric company could determine what appliances you could use "oh you need the power tools package for $14.99"
Someone watched the rebuttal video to Ben's "Net neutrality break down" lol.
dpla9752 that's not how it would work, and competition would stop anyone from making retarded surcharges like that
You remember how bad the internet was in 2015? It was a terrible place. The world was in the stone ages. Thank god over the last two years the internet became perfect
Henry Burris ah yes the good old competition argument. Sounds great until you realise about half of the American population have the option of only 1 ISP due to said ISP owning the infrastructure in those areas and obviously won't lease their infrastructure to other companies.
It wouldn't be a problem if there were 100s of options to choose from.
No you fucking idiots. If companies did that, most people would not be able to afford it and switch to a minor competitor! And those people who say that there is no competition, are liars! There is competition. There are thousands of local ISPs that you can switch to if this gets real serious!
Being anti-free market is beyond strange to me. It's crazy how people get about Net Neutrality without fully understanding it. Let the companies compete for prices. We do that for everything else. Except health care.
Funny he mentions crosayed owls, he ordered for his bohemian grove buddies.
Ben Shapiro, too much of a conservative republican. As always, one party thinks it’s right over the other. Do you want freedom of internet? Or do you want slow lanes but fast lanes on websites and services your providers favor?
Yappy Raccoon It’s not much of an opinion. He’s not informing you about it. He’s persuading you what the outcome can be. So yes, he cannot
thank you! some people get too full of themselves when they get a large following that they will do anything to push the agenda of their party. if he were soooo smart then why doesnt he know more about this topic than Kimmel? thats cause he was paid to say this. thats why ajit was in a video with someone from breitbart recently.
BrothersGamingTV He's nowhere near being a republican what are you high?
Hibana True, he just bases his political platform on being a conservative
BrothersGamingTV exactly. I used to lol this guy but he's clearly just trying to manipulate his audience by telling them this supports less government regulation. I agree there should be less govt regulation but not absolutely none. The govt needs to regulate this or else the corporations can literally do whatever the fuck they want
Calm down people. Ben said he’s not an expert, only that he knows more about it than Jimmy Kimmle. Isn’t that a fair statement?
Chris Pyle saying that you know more about something than kimmel is a pretty low bar to begin with, but the fact that he is on the wrong side of the issue shows that he is very ignorant
Martsu44445 Didn’t things basically go back to a pre 2015 form? I’m not that familiar with it either, trying to learn more
No. It is never a fair statement to categorically assume you know more than the other guy unless you have a record of study in that field. Talk about the issue, not your level of expertise.
D I had heard almost the exact opposite so I appreciate that comment very much. Will continue to research before weighing in further. Cheers 🍻
No, it really isn't a fair statement when he's making a video "fact checking" another person.
blind leading the blind...
I know absolutely nothing about net neutrality but I kept seeing people on my twitter talking about how insane it was, how it would be the end of the Internet, and to text “resist” to 50409... and I proceeded by doing nothing because I figured if liberals were making a huge deal about it there was a 100% chance that they were over exaggerating
Ben, you don’t understand net neutrality either. Don’t pretend you do. You have an opinion on net neutrality that was formed by widespread information on it. As a man who has respected you for so long due to your quick-witted arguments and use of facts, I am disgusted by your clear ignorance and lack of research on this topic that you have made SEVERAL videos about.
Clearly you didn't watch the video, he outright stated that he doesn't pretend nor claim to be an expert on net neutrality
Ricardo Vazquez I’m aware of what he said, but that does not excuse the fact that he has misinformation, implying that he either failed to do research or his research was heavily biased in favor of the FCC. Either way, he failed to produce accurate news and, as such, deserves ridicule. When CNN and Fox produce false news, it is almost always called out. The Daily Wire should be no different.
I'm interested - what did he say that was factually incorrect?
He isn't an expert and could be wrong, but why is he against it? he doesn't know how it works and hasn't even taken the time to inform himself. He is just going with the idea that ALL regulations are the devil. That is a foolish stance to take, some regulations are needed in any modern government.
NoobifiedSpartan You guys are fallacious. When Ben Shapiro is finally wrong, you go "I'm so surprised he's wrong on this issue.
, and so blind. How?!" Ben usually takes conservative far right positions on most topics. This is no exception. Quite being surprised your jewish god, Ben, is no god of reason after all.
just another episode from good old yt series :
Shapiro destroying Kimmel
:)
john kowalski please watch this ua-cam.com/video/oInAlTKlw64/v-deo.html
It's hard to take anybody seriously when they have a bowl on their head
MSNBC played the Kimmel clip as a source of information.
I don't agree with you on this particular topic at all. Net neutrality is possiibly the one good thing Obama did
Lotty oh now you see when it affects your life you don't agree do you ever think a lot of things Obama did was the right thing to do but it didn't affect your life so you believe idiots like this I think the world starting to wake they've been lying to you the whole damn time now you're starting to see
I think he meant to say good not goof
Net neutrality was established in 1996 you Moron
"I'm not an expert on net neutrality, I don't pretend to be an expert on net neutrality" then get an expert on the show to explain it. You're getting lazy Ben!
UA-camr He had Ajit Pai on the day before the vote..
Yeah, his stance is he doesn't know much about it, but still get rid of it? that's a shitty way to operate for sure.
But at least he knows that Net Neutrality has only been around for 2 years. Did we all "die" before 2015? nope. Still had our internet.
Chrisdaman417 90% of net neutrality activists don't understand it either, how about just leave it to the FCC?
Chrisdaman417 Look into the history of NN and what it was originally supposed to do and who benefitted from it and who is REALLY in control... If u are for a free market then you cannot support NN. On the surface (and if your listen to Kimmel) this sounds wrong but thats where the details and history and outcome need to be looked at! Seriously NN isnt all that its cracked up to be! Its a government tool and NOW its not!
I am split on the net neutrality issue. Had a discussion about it with my liberal english teacher, and he said that he wanted to punch me in the face.
It’s like talking fast makes me smart
You are absolutely wrong ben. I lost a lot of respect for you today
Walter Spencer I'm not into politics Steve kind of people are ruining mean America you don't see their bought and paid for they follow the Rush model everything on the other side is bad no matter what it is but now it is gotten so worse with Trump in there it is almost become tribalistic anything he does cannot be wrong it's the other side no we're all Americans and to tell you the truth if you watch this guy you're getting played man
I don't agree with Ben right now either but you've got to be of radical left wing level to be that sensitive over an opinion.
+Walter Spencer
You're being close-minded.
Walter Spencer, nobody gives a shit what you think or cares about your respect.
That's not how this works, Kimmel. That's not how any of this works.
Good argument. Shapiro, that is not how any of this works.
Ben Shapiro doesn't have the basic facts about what net neutrality is and what it does from the consumers which really makes his onion on the matter counter productive. I normally follow Ben and like this views but i couldn't disagree more here. Its disappointing because a lot of people take his word for it and dont question the views for Themselves so they blindly follow his premise which is completely misunderstood. Its ironic he sais Jimmy Kimmel doesnt know what hes talking about because Ben doesnt know what hes talking about either when it comes to net neutrality
Apparently there's only one person in the world who knows the truth and it's not you or me.
What the hell do you mean “I don’t know what qualifies him to talk about these things”. Dude it’s freedom of speech. He is just as qualified as you are.
Net neutrality is a debate on whether or not the internet should be regulated as a public utility. Do you think that the internet is ubiquitous enough to be regulated like a utility? I do, that's why I want the government to regulate it, that's why I want net neutrality.
Ben should take over Jimmy's job because I was dying through that entire video!
"Ben Shapiro Doesn't Understand Net Neutrality". Fixed that for you.
Well I guess now you have something in common with Jimmy Kimmel Ben.
aye at least he's against the repeal, hes a talk host and does mostly comedy. what rocket science u expect outta him?
How can this guys criticize Kimmel when he doesn't make a single substantive point...? Kimmel is vacuous, but at least he is more personable than this other vacuous knob.
The internet was always intended to be an open tool. Fuck large companies taking the bandwidth.
Damn, Ben. You really messed up this time. I am disappointed in your argument and lack of logic. Step it up, little man.
Remember when people like you thought this would destroy the Internet?
The only benefit from this clusterfuck of a decision would be ISP’s throttling Down this walking brain foreclosure’s rants.
I'm still on the fence about nut neutrality because I have no H E C K I N G idea what it is or the effects of getting rid of nut neutrality
Ajit Pai is Indian.
“Indian racial slurs” is one of the top google search predictions
So I recently heard about net neutrality and as a result I’m uneducated in this area and would like to hear the argument from both side to see where I stand.
BEN YOU DONT UNDERSTAND NET NEUTRALITY LMFAO HOLY SHIT DUDE
Talk about it when your website is banned from the internet
It sucks we have to choose between big business or big government. And late night "comedians" make everything so much worse.
Time for beer 🍺
Please run for president Ben. This country needs a man like you in the Oval Office.
I'm canadian, and I'm sorry americans for Jimmy Kimmel...
The problem with the end of net neutrality is the isp can now charge more simply because we will accept this as a reality. Communications infrastructure is less difficult to produce than are profits. One could say we have reached a point where it is not profitabke to produce it. Remove Title II and expand the market as necessary. We end up ruining everything anyhow.
Time stamp for when he starts crying?
Wont this mean that people can choose to pay for the Internet service that they want? Instead of everyone paying the same for different services?
Read the comments here and it's obvious the millennials think they have secret knowledge on this issue that us old folks just can't understand.
I still don't understand net neutrality all that much, but I don't recall ever having trouble with the internet pre-neutrality days. It's not like my quality of internet went up when net neutrality passed. I honestly never would've even knew it passed except for hearing other people talk about it. And from what I understand now, instead of the internet being regulated by the FCC, it is going to be regulated by the FTC. I don't know what that means, but I also don't see an end to the internet as we know it today.
Can someone point me too the 'correct' information on this subject? I don't have Facebook, or Twitter. So I kinda live under a rock.
We see something like this in Mexico, modelo pays bars to only sell modelo beers. Netflix will be able to pay Comcast to only show Netflix and ban Hulu or even youtube. Amazon could be able to pay Verizon so it's the only online retailer and ban grandma's crochet store
To be fair understanding Net Neutrality and the consequences that can arise are pretty hard to grasp. I hope nothing comes of this I truly do.
what was he even talking about for the first two minutes of this? He just went off on an exaggerated, illogical rant. He added nothing to this discussion and just says " I know more about it than Kimmel". Yes...then tell us about it. That's why we're all here...*video ends*
Ben I have deep respect for you but I’d like you to look closer on this one you don’t have me convinced, I’d like to keep net neutrality myself and I think it is a big deal.
Remember when people like you thought this would destroy the Internet?
And neither do you
How is repealing it of any benefit to the general public?
Net Neutrality could only be put in place by regulating the internet AS A UTILITY. If the internet is a utility then the FCC has the power to grant a total monopoly to any company they want to. This is why it needed to be repealed. It had nothing to do with the net neutrality regulations themselves, because no one really objected to those. The objection had to do with the potential collateral damage. By the way, if you think the FCC would not grant a monopoly to some company like comcast eventually if they have the power to do so then you haven't paid attention to reality. the FCC has already done this with other utilities. They would obviously do it again if they have the power.
Reads the title-oh and you do?!