This is really wild! What an amazing platform, REE! It addresses SO many pain points of fleet management! Thank you, Munro, and great job Kim, Cory, and Grace!
Impressive, thanks to REE for this development,this lady is really smart and does an excellent job. Really appreciate Cory taking the time to do this.Seems Munro may get one of these units to tear down. REE would have been smart to have some engineers present at the booth to step in to be part of the conversation. Looks like a great future for this company. Real value out of this video.
The military is really into having modular power packs (engine & transmission) that can be pulled and swapped out. They require speed of repair so the vehicle is back out to the front lines ASAP. This looks like something they'd be interested in.
This is what out of the box thinking does !!!! Forever we've been subjected to prototype vehicles and ideas that never come to fruition. Nice to see a company talk the talk and walk the walk.
Cory, this is excellent, you've probably saved me a few hours of research! The possibilities for such a system extend in a number of directions: Powered trailers, specialised equipment such as airport or seaport machinery and so much more. I've remarked to colleagues that with the coming-of-age of battery and motor systems there is the potential to see the return of coachbuilding as a viable business.
Four-Wheel steering on a delivery truck, or city bus, would be a great improvement. I can't tell you how many times traffic has been held up while a delivery truck was trying to park in a tight space so he could reach his customer.
A city bus! That will be a great application for this. A municipal fleet will be large enough to stock their own modules to be swapped in anytime a repair is needed.
Good lord, that's a compelling package for the small-to-medium delivery system. REE has clearly thought through their product and the production of it. I've never been more excited about the future than I am right now. EDIT - Is Ree a Canadian firm? Every once in a while I detect Kim with a Canadian pronunciation of certain words.
Firts thank you to Kim Mathers for this clear and thoughtful presentation !!! I was thinking at first that this module was designed to replace the main engine and will be connected to the main shaft where the clutch and gear box was located. But instead, making a separate unit for each wheel is the perfect solution. Just eliminating the main shaft and differential on each of the axial is a great energy saving. I can't wait to see an UPS truck making a 'crab' U-Turn in from of my home using vectoring control !!!
Feels like I’m staring into the future of EVs. X By Wire holds so many opportunities for improving steering, braking and safety! It has the potential to completely eliminate driver error in future vehicles. Great work REE (and Munro)! 🥰
Would the range of a battery-electric motorhome work for you? It wouldn't for me. How much would you be willing to pay for a motorhome using these? All but the most expensive production motorhomes use the cheapest available truck chassis; they are in a very different world from all-aluminum fully independent suspension.
yup! I like this 1 the best! this would make a great custom auto snap-in!! good luck!! I hope it's hardened & ready 2 go... Cory's all gears! tear down champ! lean design!
I wouldn’t be surprised to see something similar on cybertruck, which would like make a great Humvee replacement, but I’d rather see Tesla tell US military to F off
The military has been using "power packs" of engine+transmission for decades for armored vehicles. Fastest way to get them back to the front lines and it simplifies the capabilities a forward repair depot needs. They'll love to do this with a variety of other vehicles.
I’m impressed. Thanks Corey for the information and insight. I am enthusiastic about the concept and applications of this unique and inventive product. I’m curious about the control system, which I assume would be a plug-in box that would accept the controls, steering plug-ins, etc. Does that exist and who has/is developing it and the related software? Also, who are they dealing with in the box van developments for battery packs? I see an awesome application of this not only to work / delivery vans, but also the RV industry. Thank you. P.S. I was sufficiently impressed, so I bought stock in REE Automotive!
These would be perfect for RVs because they could provide a completely flat floor from front to back. No need for stairs in the RV. Winnebago should be all over this system for its motorhomes before someone beats them to it.
@@mikedx2706 I agree. However the only downside is that when we RV we're off the grid and access to the kind of EV charger needed to power the vehicle may be limited, at this point in time. This will definitely be a game changer when the charging infrastucture is where it needs to be.
I agree that four of these (or six for a very large motorhome) could be the basis of a great motorhome; however, almost all RVs are built for minimum cost, not maximum functionality. These units would be far too expensive.
What's the downside to this design. There has to be one doesn't there? I'm a professional design engineer and I can't see one. I really like this on my first look at it.
I suppose the overall weight of the chassis might be higher, but could be entirely modular in length, width, wheelbase, and whatever box is placed on top. Might not be as efficient as making tens of thousands of identical trucks, but would be the best way to make ten of anything.
Producing a 'corner" is a cool idea. But I'd rather see it with ultra cheap construction with sheet metal and stamped parts. This looks like it's going to be way more expensive than it needs to be. Your box truck doesn't need race car performance parts
This a fantastic idea , leads the way to conversions as well, reduction of emissions and economic competitiveness for shippers. Kudo Monroe Live for the interview !
Doesnt look like it is set up at all for conversions. It requires some pretty specific mounting points and the illustrations of the trucks have huge outboard fenders, suggesting that it does fit into normal truck packaging.
With no mechanical connection to the driver...what happens if there isn't any power in the system? Is it locked in gear? How do you activate a parking brake? Or deactivate? What happens to steering?
I can see two other markets right off the get go, one would be the RV market....this platform opens up all kinds of opportunities in that space, the second would be for powered trailers or campers so if your pulling with an EV it doesn't eat up so much of the EV's battery if the trailer is acting as an assist.
Weight penalty in overall vehicle design based on the additional interfaces between corners and box frame? A very cool design, and I suspect it will maximize the cargo volume of the box truck as well - is that the trade off here?
I Reesearched this myself last year. Thought it had tons of potential. Working as a Truck & Equipment mechanic in industry where f450, 550 are the standard was curious if Viable Solutions for this were out there. Most Info is low resolution. I had similar questions and see similar potential. For example a Large Fleet could afford to have "Corners" on the shelf. Downtime virtually eliminated. I promise I could do this side of road, Let that Sink in... I did diesel tech early 2000's looks like I need some continuing ED lol.
Quite literally the only moving parts on a van are in the 4 modules, each of which can be unbolted and swapped in an hour. The rest of the van is basically 'solid state'. Whoah.
1 how open are you about owners able to self adjust the parameters. ie will it be john deere locked out and e-waste after a few years no repurposing in the back yard. 2 were can i find 2 of these in the scrap heap i have a welder and some ideas for my lawn mower "racing circuit"
At least the upper part looks very symmetrical, so I assume that it is one module, adjusted differently. The steering actuators and arms would probably need to be installable in either position, to match the opposite side corner. The brake calipers would presumably also swap positions, and any anti-dive/anti-squat suspension angles would need to be set as well.
This is the 2nd video I have seen on REE. After seeing the 1st video, I put in a bid for some stock. After seeing this video on Sandy's homepage, I will be placing another bid for more stock once I get some more money from my dividends. At the current price, REE appears to be a good company on which to place some bids( = gamble) on the "Wall Street Casino". If you can't afford to lose it, then you should not gamble. I using the "House's Money"(dividends), so I am not using my own money to gamble.
I like the way you are thinking. No need to throw out working parts because a different part is not usable anymore. They specifically mention taking a corner off for refurbishment and putting another one in immediately. That implies to me that the refurbished unit can then go on back on another chassis. So I think just taking four working one off a chassis and putting them on a new chassis would not be a problem.
Corey kinda started down this "Advantages" path when talking about brakes being more like Rivian style. (thanks for reminding me what FNC stands for with rotors by the way) Unsprung weight reduction here is insane compared to standard solid axle setup. Unsprung weight has biggest effect on ride feel. Not to mention Rotational mass. Redundancy with Brake fluid cant take out the entire system, assuming electrical failure has failsafe. Would be interested to see brake actuation design.
Imagine you are Amazon, you go to a car service and get everything done in an hour then leave. You're saving thousands of $$$ every year. No downtime, more productivity. Game changer!
Do they have a unified connector? Seems like it would be good to develop a connector that houses all the power and communication needs of each drive unit so wiring is literally one wire and connector per drive unit. With four connections at the battery/ECM. Then only need one other connection going to the control pod at the driver location. They should also develop a modular battery ECM, specifically to interface with their units.
I can see a big future for this kind of thing not only in new platforms but in retrofits. If someone would come up with one to retrofit smaller vehicles the change over to EVs would be faster and cheaper and of course greener. Why destroy and make anew when you could refurbish still good parts of the fleet?
My first thought was, do commercial operators need their trucks repaired so quickly they need a swap-out module? Then realized the answer is yes, every day a truck isn't on the road is a day it's not earning its monthly loan payment.
I found it interesting that she said their first American manufacturing facility is going to be just north of Pflugerville TX. Then she said they like to be close to their customers. Pflugerville... Hummmm Not very far from Giga Texas. Could it be..... ? She also said REE would be "in market" in the second half of this year. I'm not sure if she was referring to just the UK or if that would be in the U.S. too. Isn't TSLA saying the schedule for the cybertruck will be in mid 2023?
The should offer an offroad version where all the components mounted on top of the wheel (vs below in current design) and possible offset the drive shaft like a unimog. They can EASILY provide necessary drivetrain for a low-volume EV UNIMOG producer - which can be a game changer in the offroad community (not to mention commercial applications which REQUIRE unimog capabilities like power companies and other utilities).
Really hope that desperation will drive the graft-a-looza Oshkosh Defense company to use something like these to implement the electric postal delivery vehicle they sold without knowing how to build.
This is really wild! What an amazing platform, REE! It addresses SO many pain points of fleet management! Thank you, Munro, and great job Kim, Cory, and Grace!
Impressive, thanks to REE for this development,this lady is really smart and does an excellent job. Really appreciate Cory taking the time to do this.Seems Munro may get one of these units to tear down. REE would have been smart to have some engineers present at the booth to step in to be part of the conversation. Looks like a great future for this company. Real value out of this video.
Man, that’s the kind of stuff that mechanics dream of! It would be nice not to curse the engineers and all their ancestors 😂
The military is really into having modular power packs (engine & transmission) that can be pulled and swapped out. They require speed of repair so the vehicle is back out to the front lines ASAP. This looks like something they'd be interested in.
Been searching for a REE Auto CES video for a while now. Thank you Munro👍
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching.
Thank you Cory. Great video. Kim knows her stuff and if she does not know she tells you. 🇨🇦
This is what out of the box thinking does !!!! Forever we've been subjected to prototype vehicles and ideas that never come to fruition. Nice to see a company talk the talk and walk the walk.
Cory, this is excellent, you've probably saved me a few hours of research!
The possibilities for such a system extend in a number of directions: Powered trailers, specialised equipment such as airport or seaport machinery and so much more.
I've remarked to colleagues that with the coming-of-age of battery and motor systems there is the potential to see the return of coachbuilding as a viable business.
The whole thing can fit on a pallet. Fantastic.
Been following REE for a while. They have really honed their offering. Would love some info on a few customers and get their experience
Great info. That white van on the poster looks like it could work as a mail truck. And look better than the new mail truck.
I appreciate the response provided by Kim, she only provides accurate information to the best of her knowledge. 08:00- Priceless
Thanks Cory for this interview showing leading edge EV developements that are ready for production now.
Four-Wheel steering on a delivery truck, or city bus, would be a great improvement. I can't tell you how many times traffic has been held up while a delivery truck was trying to park in a tight space so he could reach his customer.
A city bus! That will be a great application for this. A municipal fleet will be large enough to stock their own modules to be swapped in anytime a repair is needed.
Good lord, that's a compelling package for the small-to-medium delivery system. REE has clearly thought through their product and the production of it. I've never been more excited about the future than I am right now.
EDIT - Is Ree a Canadian firm? Every once in a while I detect Kim with a Canadian pronunciation of certain words.
REE is an Israeli Company.
Her LinkedIn profile says she has an engineering degree and an MBA both earned in Ontario. Presumably she's Canadian. Oh and a member of Mensa.
Firts thank you to Kim Mathers for this clear and thoughtful presentation !!!
I was thinking at first that this module was designed to replace the main engine and
will be connected to the main shaft where the clutch and gear box was located.
But instead, making a separate unit for each wheel is the perfect solution.
Just eliminating the main shaft and differential on each of the axial is a great energy saving.
I can't wait to see an UPS truck making a 'crab' U-Turn in from of my home using vectoring control !!!
Feels like I’m staring into the future of EVs. X By Wire holds so many opportunities for improving steering, braking and safety! It has the potential to completely eliminate driver error in future vehicles. Great work REE (and Munro)! 🥰
Thanks for showing this, Cory! Awesome idea. Modularity rocks! So many benefits to this.
Great interview with REE at CES. Thanks Munroe Live with great questions from Cory and answers from Kim and Grace.
Amazing innovation! If it proves durable/reliable, this should really take off.
This looks like a huge game changer. Converting your fleet to electric just got way easier
Very informative, the industry is moving quickly, nice to see these inovations, great video, thank you for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Been watching Ree, good progress.
Excellent
Great stuff! Great find Cory.
This would be just fantastic for motorhomes.
Would the range of a battery-electric motorhome work for you? It wouldn't for me.
How much would you be willing to pay for a motorhome using these? All but the most expensive production motorhomes use the cheapest available truck chassis; they are in a very different world from all-aluminum fully independent suspension.
I Like that Idea - Looks well made - Thanks for showing
Thanks for watching!
Wow, the mind boggles, this is absolutely fabulous and almost limitless in it’s potential applications.
Nice coverage! Asked the right questions and got pretty good answers! I hope this tech can be scaled down to regular cars.
Very clever!
Dang Cory looking in shape. Great job!
yup! I like this 1 the best! this would make a great custom auto snap-in!! good luck!! I hope it's hardened & ready 2 go...
Cory's all gears! tear down champ! lean design!
Looking good, Cory!
Thank you guys for this!
Very exciting product and future of commercial.
Glad to be no longer in conventional brakes business.
Wow!
Wow. I don't even have words so many ideas of what you could do with this pop up. amazing well done thank you.
Good one Corey! Thanks! Can't wait for more!
Cornering the competition? I see what you did there!=)
Thank you!
Welcome!
Brilliant, so much potential
Could you imagine re-powering a VW Bus or Vanagon Westy with these power units?
That looks like a great system...
Imagine the military applications. No vehicle out of service for maintenance for more than an hour.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see something similar on cybertruck, which would like make a great Humvee replacement, but I’d rather see Tesla tell US military to F off
The military has been using "power packs" of engine+transmission for decades for armored vehicles. Fastest way to get them back to the front lines and it simplifies the capabilities a forward repair depot needs. They'll love to do this with a variety of other vehicles.
@@donjones4719 …especially now that military planners are keen to go full EV.
: ) . . . . IMPRESSIVE , thanks
Thanks, fascinating.
Glad you enjoyed it
awesome!
Thanks!
I’m impressed. Thanks Corey for the information and insight. I am enthusiastic about the concept and applications of this unique and inventive product. I’m curious about the control system, which I assume would be a plug-in box that would accept the controls, steering plug-ins, etc. Does that exist and who has/is developing it and the related software? Also, who are they dealing with in the box van developments for battery packs? I see an awesome application of this not only to work / delivery vans, but also the RV industry. Thank you. P.S. I was sufficiently impressed, so I bought stock in REE Automotive!
So cool!😀
A really interesting design!
impressive
I got a friend with bennys In Pflugerville. Might need to come see the factory
I am a stock owner of REE Automotive and I think that this will also be great for taxis and ride share vehicles.
Interesting concept, nice review 👍.
Thanks! 👍
Awesome interview Cory.
Thanks, Johnny!
very nice system would make it easy to build a truck looks like a great system wonder if they have a stock available
looked it up yes
Want a RV using these, with all wheel steering, drive, etc… how easy it would be to maneuver around parking and cities… and pulling a trailer…
As an RVer and REEer... trust me I'm making the suggestion!
These would be perfect for RVs because they could provide a completely flat floor from front to back. No need for stairs in the RV. Winnebago should be all over this system for its motorhomes before someone beats them to it.
@@mikedx2706 I agree. However the only downside is that when we RV we're off the grid and access to the kind of EV charger needed to power the vehicle may be limited, at this point in time. This will definitely be a game changer when the charging infrastucture is where it needs to be.
I agree that four of these (or six for a very large motorhome) could be the basis of a great motorhome; however, almost all RVs are built for minimum cost, not maximum functionality. These units would be far too expensive.
This one was good
What's the ground clearance? Can it be adjusted on the fly?
What about motor in wheel? Is that on the radar?
Not sure, but I think I remember hearing that each corner can kneel, as busses do.
Very intelligent young lady
THANKS CORY ,KIM and GRACE FOR SHARING THIS WITH US AND WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EFFORTS 🤗👍💚💚💚
Our pleasure!
What's the downside to this design. There has to be one doesn't there?
I'm a professional design engineer and I can't see one.
I really like this on my first look at it.
I suppose the overall weight of the chassis might be higher, but could be entirely modular in length, width, wheelbase, and whatever box is placed on top. Might not be as efficient as making tens of thousands of identical trucks, but would be the best way to make ten of anything.
Producing a 'corner" is a cool idea. But I'd rather see it with ultra cheap construction with sheet metal and stamped parts. This looks like it's going to be way more expensive than it needs to be. Your box truck doesn't need race car performance parts
@@calholli 100% agree. There's a lot of stuff there designed to look great on the show stand that the end user will want cheapened up for production.
@@jondiaz3475 I agree too.
Though castings are fashionable for their cheapness at scale at the moment.😉
This a fantastic idea , leads the way to conversions as well, reduction of emissions and economic competitiveness for shippers. Kudo Monroe Live for the interview !
Doesnt look like it is set up at all for conversions. It requires some pretty specific mounting points and the illustrations of the trucks have huge outboard fenders, suggesting that it does fit into normal truck packaging.
With no mechanical connection to the driver...what happens if there isn't any power in the system?
Is it locked in gear? How do you activate a parking brake? Or deactivate? What happens to steering?
How are you this sunny morning in Goonellabah on North Coast NSW, Australia? This 🥰👍👍REE Automotive's REEcorner work in Australia.👍👍🥰🤑
I can see two other markets right off the get go, one would be the RV market....this platform opens up all kinds of opportunities in that space, the second would be for powered trailers or campers so if your pulling with an EV it doesn't eat up so much of the EV's battery if the trailer is acting as an assist.
Weight penalty in overall vehicle design based on the additional interfaces between corners and box frame? A very cool design, and I suspect it will maximize the cargo volume of the box truck as well - is that the trade off here?
I Reesearched this myself last year. Thought it had tons of potential. Working as a Truck & Equipment mechanic in industry where f450, 550 are the standard was curious if Viable Solutions for this were out there.
Most Info is low resolution. I had similar questions and see similar potential.
For example a Large Fleet could afford to have "Corners" on the shelf. Downtime virtually eliminated. I promise I could do this side of road, Let that Sink in...
I did diesel tech early 2000's looks like I need some continuing ED lol.
Quite literally the only moving parts on a van are in the 4 modules, each of which can be unbolted and swapped in an hour. The rest of the van is basically 'solid state'. Whoah.
A game changer...wow...I hope they succeed
It Would Be Awsome To See What A System Like This Would Mean To The Proposed New Mail Truck Fleet As Opposed To What They Have Planned .
1 how open are you about owners able to self adjust the parameters.
ie will it be john deere locked out and e-waste after a few years no repurposing in the back yard.
2 were can i find 2 of these in the scrap heap i have a welder and some ideas for my lawn mower "racing circuit"
I'm assuming the caster is adjustable or are they specific right and left modules?
At least the upper part looks very symmetrical, so I assume that it is one module, adjusted differently.
The steering actuators and arms would probably need to be installable in either position, to match the opposite side corner. The brake calipers would presumably also swap positions, and any anti-dive/anti-squat suspension angles would need to be set as well.
Apparently each corner is identical...
I like it.
I want to install two of these into my 1988 Yugo.
This is the 2nd video I have seen on REE. After seeing the 1st video, I put in a bid for some stock. After seeing this video on Sandy's homepage, I will be placing another bid for more stock once I get some more money from my dividends. At the current price, REE appears to be a good company on which to place some bids( = gamble) on the "Wall Street Casino". If you can't afford to lose it, then you should not gamble. I using the "House's Money"(dividends), so I am not using my own money to gamble.
ferritic nitrocarburizing brake rotors is the first thing that came to my mind 😂
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Strange question, would it be feasible to move these drive units to a new chassis at end of life for the old one?
I like the way you are thinking. No need to throw out working parts because a different part is not usable anymore. They specifically mention taking a corner off for refurbishment and putting another one in immediately. That implies to me that the refurbished unit can then go on back on another chassis. So I think just taking four working one off a chassis and putting them on a new chassis would not be a problem.
Legacy OEMs, are you seeing this?
Yeah, their busy, they’re working on their next gen paint color, and need a new commercial to sell it.
Make cars with this. A sub compact SUV.
electric motor technology, well understood, deep institutional knowledge, no need for EPA emissions validation.
batteries are really the only hold up
The system is energy agnostic. You could use a fuel cell or even a generator.
Cory’s shoe game 👍
Corey kinda started down this "Advantages" path when talking about brakes being more like Rivian style. (thanks for reminding me what FNC stands for with rotors by the way) Unsprung weight reduction here is insane compared to standard solid axle setup. Unsprung weight has biggest effect on ride feel. Not to mention Rotational mass.
Redundancy with Brake fluid cant take out the entire system, assuming electrical failure has failsafe. Would be interested to see brake actuation design.
Great! Send me a matched pair for the rear corners of a medium-duty truck (RV).
And a fabulous Canadian accent. 😃 One very smart woman.
Imagine you are Amazon, you go to a car service and get everything done in an hour then leave. You're saving thousands of $$$ every year. No downtime, more productivity. Game changer!
Is this the four wheel steering system and power train that Tesla cyber truck will be using in Austin, Texas ?
Do they have a unified connector? Seems like it would be good to develop a connector that houses all the power and communication needs of each drive unit so wiring is literally one wire and connector per drive unit. With four connections at the battery/ECM. Then only need one other connection going to the control pod at the driver location. They should also develop a modular battery ECM, specifically to interface with their units.
I can see a big future for this kind of thing not only in new platforms but in retrofits. If someone would come up with one to retrofit smaller vehicles the change over to EVs would be faster and cheaper and of course greener. Why destroy and make anew when you could refurbish still good parts of the fleet?
Awesome! I bet the RV industry is going like REE. Hope the will right.
The RV industry won't pay what these units will cost. A few specialty manufacturers might go for them, in million-dollar vehicles.
My first thought was, do commercial operators need their trucks repaired so quickly they need a swap-out module? Then realized the answer is yes, every day a truck isn't on the road is a day it's not earning its monthly loan payment.
I found it interesting that she said their first American manufacturing facility is going to be just north of Pflugerville TX. Then she said they like to be close to their customers. Pflugerville... Hummmm Not very far from Giga Texas. Could it be..... ?
She also said REE would be "in market" in the second half of this year. I'm not sure if she was referring to just the UK or if that would be in the U.S. too. Isn't TSLA saying the schedule for the cybertruck will be in mid 2023?
The final nail in Rivian's coffin.
I wonder if Cybertruck is like this. I’m sure it would be perfect for an exoskeleton.
Doubtful. Tesla has a pretty clear pedigree at this point.
I wonder how many different combinations they could configure.. 30-50?
Only 29 .. oops
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The should offer an offroad version where all the components mounted on top of the wheel (vs below in current design) and possible offset the drive shaft like a unimog. They can EASILY provide necessary drivetrain for a low-volume EV UNIMOG producer - which can be a game changer in the offroad community (not to mention commercial applications which REQUIRE unimog capabilities like power companies and other utilities).
That's called a portal axle; it is not unique to the Unimog.
Really hope that desperation will drive the graft-a-looza Oshkosh Defense company to use something like these to implement the electric postal delivery vehicle they sold without knowing how to build.
As usual the question is, why didn't someone think of this before? I wish the manufacturer much success.
The idea is not new; it just hasn't been sold commercially.
@@brianb-p6586 Thanks
Is this a system that be added to a older truck?