E97 - Jeremy Riggs Ejects Gabriel Arias After Strikeout with 2 Low-Zone Strikes (The TV Box Jumped)
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2024
- HP Umpire Jeremy Riggs ejected Guardians SS Gabriel Arias for arguing strike calls in the 9th inning after striking out. Also, the on-screen strike zone graphic box jumped around during the pitch, so there's that. Report: www.closecallsports.com/2024/...
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hitters complaining about close calls are in for a rude awakening when robo ump comes.
yep, cant wait until the robos show how bad many of these hitters really are
100%. Ive said for a while now that when they institute the challenge system it's going to open alot of eyeballs to the boxes fans see on TV as well as players being forced to take some accountability for their own at bats.
Seriously...who are they going to complain to? Will the umpires get to laugh at the hitter and pitchers when they complain about the robo-umps' calls?
@@1969EType Why not? Plenty of managers still argue to umpires after a replay review even though it's the guys in New York that made the ruling.
@@brendonneely9456 Sorry...agree to disagree. If they institute the robo-umps in MLB then a player or coach who argues with the on-field umpires about a call the robo-umps have made should be an immediate ejection. A coach or player's inability to accept the ruling of the computer (which they all say they want...) is no excuse to then verbally abuse the human umpires. But, you make a great point and MLB will likely allow players and coaches to do just that because MLB is no longer in the competitive baseball business. They are in the entertainment business like WWE and there's nothing fans love more than to see their players and coaches verbally abusing the umpires...
"Yes, I'll have the homer announcing please with a side of weak sauce."
Honestly thought the announcers did an ok job here. They didn't say the pitch was a ball, they said the batter/manager thought it was a ball. They criticized him for getting thrown out of the game instead of controlling his emotions. I don't like the "weak sauce" comment but this is way better than 90% of the commentary we usually hear when there's an ejection.
@@marimbaguy715 I know, I just wanted to throw in weak sauce in a haha comment. These announcers were much better than average in reality.
@@marimbaguy715 yep, and even the other announcer countered the "weak sauce" with "it is, but ya know what, you still can't do it". I def give that a guy a high mark for being a _sensible_ homer. But @lastdance2099 comment is still pretty funny 😃
@@marimbaguy715 They get some credit for being better than most. But at the same time not necessarily enough to warrant the "weak sauce" comment in my opinion. Unless of course the "weak sauce" is directed at the player
Positive discussion, good to see
Looks like the interns in the broadcast truck were having a bad time with their graphic overlay console.
Cmon, theres no reason to shit on the people working on the broadcasts. It's an incredibly hard thing to do, and frankly the technology doesn't exist to do it perfectly. If it did they wouldn't keep delaying the implementation of ABS.
@@jeremygoldenberg9617 tell that to all the people who see the TV box as absolute truth in all things strikezone
Or maybe they were having a good time with it.
Hate to burst your bubble but there are NO interns in that truck. ZERO, NONE. That feed comes from MLB in NJ.
@@ericwildfong I do, frequently.
There are two potential scenarios that I see here. It could have been an insult like "You're f*** terrible". He also could have said something like "That's two pitches," referencing an earlier call.
Id lean towards "A"
"That pitch was low". The mouth shapes for You're and That's aren't remotely close
Great job by the catcher setting up properly so he wouldn't be called for illegally blocking the plate before getting the ball
Thanks!
How the eff do the announcers think they know it's "weak sauce" when they don't know what the batter says? If he calls the ump an mf'er or something similar, they wouldn't know.
Cause clearly the batter can do no wrong and it's the umpires fault for throwing him out 🙃
Stop applying amateur standards to the pros. Pro umpires hear profanity regularly, and their language isn't pristine. There was no yelling, throwing equipment, or getting in the umpire's face.
@@roberthudson1959 Even the pro standards limit what can be said directly to the umpire. Just cause there's a looser leash on profanity compared to younger levels, it still can't be personal. "f'ing terrible" or "that's f'ing terrible" and "you're f'ing terrible" are two different things. Also we don't know if he was saying anything to the umpire during the at bat which could push it into the realm of prolonged, same with referencing an earlier pitch
@@roberthudson1959 There's still a line. Calling something a "f'ing terrible call" is a whole lot different, for example, than calling the ref a "cheating mf'er." Obviously, I have no clue what was actually said, but pretty sure even in the bigs you can't just personally cuss out an ump. Seems like that's the basis of what Lindsay keeps saying.
@@Mehnwai397 Questioning an official's integrity is an automatic ejection. The only other exception to "just don't show me up" would be a physical threat.
Rick Manning is one of the best color analysts. He is fair at praise and criticism for both sides and isn't 100% homer like Hawk used to be.
How does the announcer know it was "weak sauce" to throw him out? Every time a batter is thrown out in a situation like this, there is his broadcasting team backing him up and using some version of saying that was "weak sauce" by the umpire? Prolonged, personal, and or profane is the standard for an ejection. It doesn't matter if a player or coach is walking away from the umpire when they say it. If the umpire hears something that meets that criteria, by rule, they must eject them. I do like the OTHER broadcaster's narrative here of, "...you can't get thrown out here in a situation like this." Until you know for sure what EXACTLY the ejected person said, you cannot draw any conclusions whatsoever.
You don't often hear situations like that....where the broadcast crew features one reasonable person who sees what actually happened here, and one homer who wants to heap the blame somewhere else (when every call was correct....and he cannot possibly know what the batter said...hey bud, if the dude turned and quietly told the ump his mother was a $&@%#$! #%@$*&, was that ejection still "weak sauce?")
It might be just me, but it seems a lot of these gripes the batters have are calls too close to get in an argument over.
Bring on challenges or do away with the TV strike box. Any part of the ball over any part of the plate.......
Wait wait wait. Mlb can track players in realtime 3d but can't figure out the vertical for the fucking strike zone, or use a the 3d for all the ipads?
if the tv box is jumping around, how do u know the robo box isn't jumping around. All we keep seeing is another box and its a strike. Who validates that box?
Agreed... and who validates the guy who validates? And so on...
RoboUmp is never wrong. If you don't believe me, just check the RoboUmp data, and you'll see that it is never wrong. It is not necessary for someone to watch the watchers. RoboUmp will watch that, too.
The TV computer needs to cut corners to achieve "real time" speed, such as using fewer significant digits and doesn't have the benefit of having the inputs double or triple checked by operators like post game processing would have. It's kind of similar to umpires and not having access to video replay, they need to call it in real time. The reality is though, the pitch tracking numbers do drift, which is why there's a margin of error. Also known as the tolerance in variations of the equipment output. If the ball is at (X1, Y1) but the tracking equipment spits out (X2, Y2) it's considered to be an accurate position so long as X2 and Y2 differ from X1 and Y1 by no more than the margin of error or the equipment's tolerance
I want robo ump. Robo ump wont care when people complain.
That's fine they'll still have check swings to mess up
Can't stand announcers who are Homers. Learn from Vin Skully.
Vin Scully was a treasure and once in a lifetime true professional.I miss him.
Pitches looked down to me……and I ain’t the only one. But if two strikes, need to be hacking. That close…..
The post game analysis confirms they were strikes. Once again you fail.
@@alanhess9306 the post post analysis says I don’t give a shit what you or a computer says…..looked down to me, and the batter, and if you were to quiz the catcher, I’m bettin he thinks it was down. Up/down isn’t definitive like in/out…..go back to sleep, mommy will wake you up when it’s ok to go outside.
@@kerrytodd3753 Right, we understand you have your opinion and don't care about facts. The facts derived from the post analysis is accurate, they were both strikes. Stick to coaching tee ball.
@@kerrytodd3753 Do you even know where the bottom of the strike zone is?
@@alanhess9306 ya know, I’ve never coached T Ball but I bet it would be interesting. At least we could do away with the Buffon behind the dish that’s probably never hit a pitched ball in his/her life. Teach some youngsters at the same time, win/win….i may just go sign up, with my cred they would hire me for sure but I wonder what the pay is? Last I coached in those lower ages, I’m purty sure it was volunteer work, but it mighta changed…..given todays crazy world of allowing for boxes being drawn on a screen, calling a game because of taking 2sec too long to pitch, or because you weren’t looking at the pitcher, or because any numerous ridiculous reasons….they may pay me, win/win/win
Perfect position by UIC for play at home
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The low strike wasn’t called for most of the game from what I recall until late in the game.
It literally was.
I didn't watch this one, so I'm not sure, but the graphic at 1:15 would indicate that there were two borderline low pitches "missed," both by half an inch. One was a low pitch called a strike, and one just caught the corner and was called a ball.
Except they put the scorecard up @1:15 showing that even within a zero error system only two pitches were missed low. Both of those pitches would be margin of error (thus not counted against the umpire) for even CCS's 1 inch MoE.
He was more tight on the RH batter's box side of the plate. He wasn't calling ANYTHING on that side to either team, regardless of whether someone was there or not. He definitely expanded that part of the zone late.
What's "weak sauce" is that dufus announcer using an internet-ism IRL. 🤦
Weak at bat. Pathetic performance. You can’t help your team win by watching pitches. If you swing the bat something good may happen.