Central Hall | Is the Governor an Agent of the Union Government?

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
  • A position first conceptualised as an agent of the British Crown, the state governor has seen key changes in their remit through the years. From the time when India became a republic to 2014, the governor has largely executed their function within the purview of the constitution. In this episode of Central Hall, Kapil Sibal notes that "today governors are in fact the agents of the union government sitting in power."
    Has the constitution or the concept of federal structure been damaged in the process?
    Three experts shed light.
    Narinder Nath Vohra, popularly referred to as N. N. Vohra, is an Indian Administrative Service officer, who has been governor of Jammu and Kashmir, back when it was a state.
    Madan Lokur is former judge of the Supreme Court, former chief justice of the Andhra Pradesh HC and Gauhati HC, and former judge of the Delhi HC. He is a judge of the Supreme Court of Fiji.
    Dr P Thiaga Rajan is the Minister of Information Technology and Digital Services at Tamil Nadu. Sibal notes that he is one of the most articulate legislators in the country.
    Join The Wire's UA-cam Membership and get exclusive content, member-only emojis, live interaction with The Wire's founders, editors and reporters and much more. Memberships to The Wire Crew start at Rs 89/month. / @thewirenews

КОМЕНТАРІ • 187

  • @shanmugampn4571
    @shanmugampn4571 4 місяці тому +79

    Congrats PTR one of few leaders capable of such intellectual discussions

  • @ramya__manoj
    @ramya__manoj 4 місяці тому +31

    Welcome back PTR sir. Glad to see u in national (social) media. Been waiting to see u give interviews like in good old days. Hoping there's more to come

  • @siddhartha5186
    @siddhartha5186 4 місяці тому +29

    Kapil Sibal is a genius, he could handle so many diverse topics with such finesse and panache

  • @princepatel2287
    @princepatel2287 4 місяці тому +79

    Palanivel thiagarajan is a national treasure

  • @sathyanarayanae
    @sathyanarayanae 4 місяці тому +23

    Would love to see more such debates. Kudos team The Wire !

  • @hassobhatia2885
    @hassobhatia2885 4 місяці тому +33

    PTR ,a future PM? Guy from MIT, brilliant person

  • @s.j
    @s.j 4 місяці тому +19

    What would have been a pure academic discussion was made live by PTR. Thanks for that. Wire please bring in people with real experience with the topic being discussed that helps people like me.

  • @mouli0317
    @mouli0317 4 місяці тому +11

    "I miss Mr. PTR’s unique perspective. His views always made a lasting impact."

  • @satyakishoresaksenaadvocat3355
    @satyakishoresaksenaadvocat3355 4 місяці тому +13

    Each discussion is not only thought provoking but enlightening .The debate is always highly appreciable

  • @anadimohan1909
    @anadimohan1909 4 місяці тому +35

    Excellent initiative of Wire to hold such high level intellectual discussions - without any shouting or cat - dog fights, as is shown on godi media
    Congratulations to Kapil Sibal on how he presents the show

    • @lgopalakrishnan3181
      @lgopalakrishnan3181 4 місяці тому +2

      Fully agree.

    • @nirmalbhel3231
      @nirmalbhel3231 4 місяці тому +1

      This is also Godi media of Cong

    • @KobayashiMaru-
      @KobayashiMaru- 4 місяці тому +1

      @@nirmalbhel3231 What is worse is they are not shouting and they are debating facts !!!

    • @nirmalbhel3231
      @nirmalbhel3231 4 місяці тому

      @@KobayashiMaru- one sided debate will be always like this put one BJP member and see what happens

    • @KobayashiMaru-
      @KobayashiMaru- 4 місяці тому +1

      @@nirmalbhel3231 Very true it is only then we can have a shouting match ... Anyways why waste time here lets go watch godi media and arnob shout

  • @rozariorichard9241
    @rozariorichard9241 4 місяці тому +9

    Here to hear PTR

  • @Realchap
    @Realchap 4 місяці тому +12

    Excellent as usual. 👍

  • @syedmoinmunawar
    @syedmoinmunawar 4 місяці тому +9

    Very interesting and enlightening discussion. All participants are well informed and knowledgeable.

  • @nandhunatarajan2876
    @nandhunatarajan2876 4 місяці тому +2

    Excellent PTR

  • @shaunbird8051
    @shaunbird8051 4 місяці тому +19

    These Governors act like real clowns. They are not elected & theres is always a clash with the elected. CM. Secondly just look at the perks, free bungalow, free staff, free security staff, free TA, & so many, which is all being paid by the common man of the state. At the end how ,& in what way this Gov. helps the finctioning of the ruling govt. So sickening. Salute to PTR for his wonderful views on these Governors. Jai Hind !

  • @legaljurislawandjustice5334
    @legaljurislawandjustice5334 4 місяці тому +4

    We were lucky to have NNvohra as governor
    Intellectually good 👍 integrity honesty

  • @padavittandhayalan3542
    @padavittandhayalan3542 4 місяці тому +3

    Congratulations to wire media for eminent personalities useful information and elaborate discussion parliamentary affairs and states governors role.❤❤
    PTR Vaazhaga.❤❤

  • @KSD02
    @KSD02 4 місяці тому +33

    PTR Rocks🎉

    • @rajkumarganesan9417
      @rajkumarganesan9417 4 місяці тому +1

      @@KSD02 Brother, not only Tamil Nadu, he rocks for whole of India . He stands for " knowledge is power".He may bring IT COMPANIES in. TN to pole position..

  • @vedazachariah3472
    @vedazachariah3472 4 місяці тому +1

    An eye-opening and brilliant discussion of intellectuals! Thank you all participants.

  • @rajendran.a3248
    @rajendran.a3248 4 місяці тому +5

    PTR is very bold and knowedge person

  • @ugprashanth
    @ugprashanth 4 місяці тому +1

    Just the learning environment of these discussions is quite amazing. The men utter little and maximum effect.

  • @lourencodafatimasouza1479
    @lourencodafatimasouza1479 4 місяці тому +15

    Nominated Governor of Calcutta threatened Elected CM by Boycotting CM supporting the agitating doctors. Why not the Governor sit with doctors dharna?

  • @abumohammedsajidbasha5741
    @abumohammedsajidbasha5741 4 місяці тому +5

    Excellent discussion between eminent personalities. Hats off to Mr. Sibal

  • @anabalax
    @anabalax 4 місяці тому +10

    What Kabil said is right. Delhi became dysfunctional government. Last month I was in Delhi first time in my life for my daughter admission. I really shocked to see capital of India looks dirtiest city in our country. No Traffic rules followed , no law, takes its own course here. Cows are everywhere disturbing traffic. Pretty much everything. Behavior, driving sense, pollution, superiority complex . PG owners are money minded people. Most of the PG accommodations are filthy and not following hygienic rules. I was cheated by Punjabi PG owner. I paid 28,000 rs one month advance and security deposit for my daughter pg accommodation. I informed her please clean the place and make it pleasant to stay before arriving. Place was still dirty, unorganized, garbage on the stairs case. It was not a healthy place to stay for my daughter. So I told her please refund my money. But she refused to refund my money first. After two days she refunded 16,000 rs. She has taken 8,000rs my hard earn money from my pocket . I feel completely lost in Delhi.

    • @cliff311976
      @cliff311976 4 місяці тому +1

      Not only Delhi, entire Country looks like a big Dustbin 😅😅😅

    • @User-mncbjlfjrebxkl
      @User-mncbjlfjrebxkl 4 місяці тому +1

      Welcome to India

  • @MickyOWankhar
    @MickyOWankhar 4 місяці тому +27

    Governor office should be abolish it will save government revenue

  • @rajkumarganesan9417
    @rajkumarganesan9417 4 місяці тому +11

    R.N.Ravi, Tamil Nadu Governor may be crowned with Bharat Ratna. Why❓
    For his "outrageous neutrality". ⁉️

  • @prakashr.3544
    @prakashr.3544 4 місяці тому +1

    Excellent 🎉🎉

  • @paulm.k.8740
    @paulm.k.8740 4 місяці тому +2

    The opinions of these eminent people on the panel should be heeded to by those in power if they care for the constitutional and legal functioning of governments.

  • @RaviKumar-pp4iy
    @RaviKumar-pp4iy 4 місяці тому +1

    Profitable discussion.

  • @EriOliyanVaenthi
    @EriOliyanVaenthi 4 місяці тому +1

    Indian federalism has made India great and protected and built the Indian unity, it's diverse culture and traditions. Now everything is getting destroyed.

  • @AM-gb7rp
    @AM-gb7rp 4 місяці тому +9

    Look at the Karnataka Governor, how he is behaving unabashedly .No moral in his actions 😢

  • @tapendrakumarram2413
    @tapendrakumarram2413 4 місяці тому +1

    excellent discussion.

  • @rkn04
    @rkn04 4 місяці тому

    Excellent discussion 😊

  • @123xyzabccba
    @123xyzabccba 4 місяці тому +6

    Why just the Governor ? In view of how the PM is running the country we shld also think of abolishing the PM post…….The constitution is as good as its citizens

  • @SujitKumarP-yo4xc
    @SujitKumarP-yo4xc 4 місяці тому +2

    very interesting debate for constitution and nation related issues.

  • @amitmathews1884
    @amitmathews1884 4 місяці тому

    Good initiative by the wire.. Most needed.

  • @mvictorvijay
    @mvictorvijay 4 місяці тому +1

    Excellent conversation

  • @jgjeevaa
    @jgjeevaa 4 місяці тому

    Wow .. what an intellectual discussion.. these governer actions should be completely stipulated in all grave area

  • @Jayanthsanthosh
    @Jayanthsanthosh 4 місяці тому +1

    Very important topic.

  • @govinsiva848.
    @govinsiva848. 4 місяці тому +2

    Governor must be nominated by President of India . Selected and interviewed by the Chief Justice council. And not by the central Government

  • @PadmanabhanAnanth
    @PadmanabhanAnanth 4 місяці тому

    Brilliant debate!

  • @maruthiahashok4760
    @maruthiahashok4760 4 місяці тому +5

    As all of know that Port Blair name changed and reason have been told that to come out of colonial mind sets
    Since Governors post also symbol of colonial mindset. Then why can't scrap the Governor post

  • @lgopalakrishnan3181
    @lgopalakrishnan3181 4 місяці тому

    A gripping discussion. Normally long discussions on UA-cam videos put me off but when four people of such caliber, knowledge and articulation participate I am not able to quit watching.

  • @RamperChampion
    @RamperChampion 4 місяці тому

    great discussion

  • @praveengurawalia6841
    @praveengurawalia6841 4 місяці тому +2

    Very informative

  • @nh2368
    @nh2368 4 місяці тому +2

    In democracy, President and Governers should be directly elected by Public and they should not belong to any Party.

  • @advocate650
    @advocate650 4 місяці тому +2

    My question too is this "Why do we need the title of a Governor? Same applies to titular head of the office of President. These r decorations to squander money from the exchequer.

  • @williamjosephantronics6107
    @williamjosephantronics6107 4 місяці тому

    Very nice discussion between highly intellect, esteemed accolades on a very sensitive ongoing issue that grips the country in a sanghi regime.

  • @andrewthangaraj
    @andrewthangaraj 4 місяці тому +4

    Whichever government comes to power, it should abolish the post of governors & Lieutenant Governors.

  • @VigneshVignesh-vg6kh
    @VigneshVignesh-vg6kh 4 місяці тому

    Palani vel thiagarajan sir our tamil nadu pride 🎉🎉

  • @narasimhagowda7402
    @narasimhagowda7402 4 місяці тому

    Excellent

  • @BaselyTJ
    @BaselyTJ 4 місяці тому +2

    Excellent debate on the role of Governors of States. Taking into account the way Governors of many states are using their power to discredit constitutional Federalism, its time an open debate/Seminar be conducted to deliberate whether the post of appointed Governor is necessary to run a elected Govt. by the people.
    It will be wise to replace Article 357 of the constitution to a constitutional council by a body of the Supreme Court of India, in every state a committee of at least three members consisting of Retd. High Court Judge and senior Retd. Bureaucrat of that state, for a better Centre-State relationship under the law of Federalism.

  • @hassobhatia2885
    @hassobhatia2885 4 місяці тому +3

    Governor role is superfluous and ceremonial, it should be abolished altogether. In US the governors are elected just like CMs here, and can tell the federal president to bug off if he or his govt. interferes too much.

  • @sampaths5413
    @sampaths5413 4 місяці тому

    At 44:02, "the question then arises, do we need governors?". This requires a serious consideration. We need to scrutinise the role of the governor and reexamine the fundamental necessity for this position in the current scheme of things.

  • @JCP-Ghy
    @JCP-Ghy 4 місяці тому +2

    An (almost) hour long discussion which, sub silentio, confirms the redundancy the SC has reduced itself to - the only mention thereof being to say it isn’t deciding anything.

  • @AlokAsthana1954
    @AlokAsthana1954 4 місяці тому +2

    Is he an agent? Of course.
    Should he be! Of course not.
    This is India, मेरी जाँ।
    Here nothing happens as should.

  • @amitbrahmo
    @amitbrahmo 4 місяці тому +5

    Governors hold constitutional posts akin to the President in a state. They must rise above their erstwhile political affiliation. But these days, they are more or less 'party-san' persons( pun intended) and obedient servants of the party at the centre. They kowtow before the PM. Sad state of things. Politics has infiltrated every nook and corner of governance and institutions.

  • @jatinderbedi1373
    @jatinderbedi1373 4 місяці тому +2

    I do not know what happened to the No Confidence Motion against the most arrogant, unethical Chairman of the Rajya Sabha, we've ever had.
    He deserves to be thrown out unceremoniously ( My opinion). He is a disgrace on the post he holds. 😢

  • @Raz-o7x
    @Raz-o7x 4 місяці тому +2

    Nowadays, governors paralleley running government, it seems our constitution is getting week day by day and our central agencies too...

  • @DeepakShah53
    @DeepakShah53 4 місяці тому +1

    Governor's Care Fund on the lines of PM Care Fund. Wow !

  • @txlish
    @txlish 4 місяці тому

    Delhi case, following the dictate of Billa bestowing from his office - Exclamation point!

  • @rajumavilaa
    @rajumavilaa 4 місяці тому

    A very insightful discussion. In the end, it is the common people who suffer. I have one question regarding the point the Tamil Nadu minister made about the governor serving as the chancellor of state universities. Could you clarify which states have governors automatically appointed as chancellors, and what the law says about this?

  • @arulkumar4682
    @arulkumar4682 4 місяці тому

    In most instances the Governor's conduct is disrespectful to Voters Rights.

  • @Shyaman7382
    @Shyaman7382 4 місяці тому +1

    50 years of my Criminal reputation is gone

  • @_solo.37_
    @_solo.37_ 4 місяці тому

    Great Minds in one place

  • @EriOliyanVaenthi
    @EriOliyanVaenthi 4 місяці тому

    We want erudite men like PTR in key posts to lead India. What a guy he is.

  • @shril7
    @shril7 4 місяці тому

    Fan of PTR.

  • @adsdynamic9219
    @adsdynamic9219 4 місяці тому

    Not just cheap political agents but proxy politicians too.

  • @123xyzabccba
    @123xyzabccba 4 місяці тому +1

    Governors were always functioning as agents through indian history……the most striking agency action executed was when President rule U/A 356 got imposed in Andhra pradesh through Governor Ramlal dismissing the validly elected government of NT Rama Rao at the behest of Rajeev Gandhi…. what congress did with sophistication the bjp is doing it roughshod….thats the only difference

  • @Zakiaqatoon
    @Zakiaqatoon 4 місяці тому +7

    Yes Governor is an agent of Union Government.

  • @sethuv6706
    @sethuv6706 4 місяці тому

    I voted for PTR anna even though I don't like DMK or Dravidian politics in the state of Tamilnadu. Our MLA PTR is an intellectual and a humble person but in the wrong party.

  • @kavinanil7406
    @kavinanil7406 4 місяці тому

    This happens when governors are selected by union and not elected with a constitutionality and yet he functions as if he is above the that. Why make the appointment or selection of governors be vested with the union...? Why cant the states have a right to choose their own governor...? The states or people of the state should have a say or referendum in the selection of the governor. There should be people's movement where the appointment of selection should be made only after a state referendum from a pool of candidates being nominated. States should enact laws or amendments for the appointment of governors in their states. The governor residences are in states, the finances for governors' functioning are primarily from the state treasury. Then why should the Union government should appoint a governor on their own whims and fancies.

  • @skluthra
    @skluthra 4 місяці тому +1

    Governors r behaving like active part of their erstwhile political parties.
    The controlling strings r with PM / HM.

  • @sethuv6706
    @sethuv6706 4 місяці тому

    Governorship was a dummy post even during Congress govt rule.Those days Tamilnadu CM Karunainidhi used to criticize the role of congress govt nominated governors in the state.

  • @xfrtej8766
    @xfrtej8766 4 місяці тому

    Governor should be either elected by committee which includes CM of the state, Chief justice of High court of the state, speaker of the legislature assembly
    Or
    He should be elected same method like president or vice President

  • @josephjudy78
    @josephjudy78 4 місяці тому

    Hurray I gave the 900th LIKE

  • @nh2368
    @nh2368 4 місяці тому

    In a democracy, every section of society should have proportionate representation in Govt and Governance but it is sad to say that minorities are side-lined.

  • @prakashgajbhiye9697
    @prakashgajbhiye9697 4 місяці тому

    Yes, Governer is purely agent of Govt and hence he is appointed by Govt. Those only who are loyal to Govt and obey the Govt instructions and in turn they can hold the office till the pleasure of PM.

  • @R2kdamage
    @R2kdamage 4 місяці тому

    i wish RN Ravi sees it. thirundunga sir

  • @karthikeyang9747
    @karthikeyang9747 4 місяці тому

    ❤❤❤

  • @webdonbala
    @webdonbala 4 місяці тому

    Welcome back PTR 🔥 10:16

  • @sastro93
    @sastro93 4 місяці тому

    💐💐💐

  • @pmm7268
    @pmm7268 4 місяці тому

    Rahulian dystopia is sold here at Wire. The shop from where you can buy this is, " mohabath ka dhukhan " . Sibbal is thr sales man. That Tamil Gentle Man claims his father cooked the dish and added preservatives, and gurantees good sales, as it is overwhelmingly sold in Tamil Nadu, and holds the Karunanidhi dynasty to remain the perpetual rulers in spite of democratic threats.

  • @harishahimas6217
    @harishahimas6217 4 місяці тому

    Now the government appointing the governers on the base of following qualifications. 1 The governer must the follower of rss and act as per rss procedure. 2. He must disobey the constitution and act as central governments demand of demolisation of elected government in the states.

  • @yedukondalubyrisetty8027
    @yedukondalubyrisetty8027 4 місяці тому +1

    Only Governors? Why not President position included in the present discussions?

    • @balachandarv1571
      @balachandarv1571 4 місяці тому +1

      @@yedukondalubyrisetty8027 because president is at least indirectly elected by people unlike governors . There will be presidential candidates and votes were casted on them from Lok Sabha, raja Sabha and state assembly members . Governors are direct appointments of union ruling party. The need of president is when government collapses someone has to run a country for small duration until new government forms and by ethically even president should not intervene in the business of elected union government. They can suggest or give opinion nothing more than that. Even state government collapses president can take charge for a while instead governors. Governors of non union ruling party states are being more political and running parallel government, spreading propaganda and sitting on the bill where unanimous will of assembly.

  • @paulm.k.8740
    @paulm.k.8740 4 місяці тому

    There should be a time limit for giving assent to a bill passed by the legislature, say 90 days, after which it will be deemed to have been approved.

  • @AwareCitizens
    @AwareCitizens 4 місяці тому +1

    राज्यपाल के पद कोई समाप्त कर दिया जाना चाहिए संविधान मे संशोधन करके.

  • @edwarddavid3970
    @edwarddavid3970 4 місяці тому

    i saw this because of PTR

  • @JayannaJAYANNA-lo1mn
    @JayannaJAYANNA-lo1mn 4 місяці тому

    Governor should be removed they don't have any accountability to the state and people now a days they are more biased

  • @devanathanponnusamy4969
    @devanathanponnusamy4969 4 місяці тому

    Sir,
    It is Ok that you appear for the West Bengal Government. As you woukd know, This should be part of the process to bring out the truth and Justice to the affected. But you did not seem to do that. We are very disappointed. I was part of the organization which you started recently accross India.

  • @123xyzabccba
    @123xyzabccba 4 місяці тому +1

    You’ll shld have discussed the breach of constitutional convention by the pm and CJI instead ….

  • @palanivelraja1363
    @palanivelraja1363 4 місяці тому

    NOT ONLY GOVERNOR IS A AGENT OF MODI.
    NOW CJI IS ALSO ACTING AS A AGENT TO MODI GOVERNMENT.
    VERY SHAMEFUL 😭

  • @paulm.k.8740
    @paulm.k.8740 4 місяці тому

    Playing politics sitting on the high chairs where absolute neutrality is required has become common these days. The quality of material available or made available has become sub standard. Such a sad state of affairs!

  • @anjanadas2105
    @anjanadas2105 4 місяці тому

    Curse to india to have politician like this

  • @giridhark9889
    @giridhark9889 4 місяці тому

    Governors are subservient to the President of India not the PM of India. But interestingly under BJP rule both governors and the president of India have become subservient to a Monarch called the PM of India who rules with his Sengol. We are back to the days of monarchy when governors and governor-generals ( Presidents)will stay in power as long as they enjoy the pleasure of her majesty the queen of Imperial British India (King - Narendra Modi).

  • @rangavesa2016
    @rangavesa2016 4 місяці тому

    yes in opposition ruled states.

  • @brksk4309
    @brksk4309 4 місяці тому

    Each day comes with new set of issues and we keep debating and debating until one day it dawns upon us that Modi has completed his 3rd term making fools of everyone, be it however educated and honest we may be.😅

  • @parimalbardhan7367
    @parimalbardhan7367 4 місяці тому

    Is there a need to continue the position of Governor? Experience suggests the post of Governor to build bridge between State & centre isn't an ideal arrangement.Several instances of biases by a number of governors in different States make a strong case for considering other alternatives.If the present system is to continue judiciary ought to play expeditiously on matters of interference or causing bottlenecks.Needbased arrangements can be considered on a case by case basis as well.

  • @rayees.ahamed
    @rayees.ahamed 4 місяці тому +1

    Sadly no one listens to this kind of intellectual discussion. 4 days 24k views?

  • @groupfive8
    @groupfive8 4 місяці тому

    As a wise man once said, Beard to Goats and Governor to a country is always unnecessary 😂