Incredible sounding motor, sounds like a NASCAR with a German accent. I was at Le Mans in the late 80’s and 90, the a sight and sound that won’t ever leave me is of the Merc coming down into Indianapolis and then blasting out of Arnage in the small hours of a Sunday morning
The more I watch this, the more I think the C11 actually surpasses the 917 in my all time top 2. I was lucky enough to be track/stage side most weekends in the 80's and got to see Group C, Group B, Group A, F2/F3000 and F1 perhaps at their pinnacle of speed without tech killing them. The C11 was incredible.
Was lucky enough to see these race at Sandown in Australia. I still remember it like yesterday hearing this thing come down the straight for the first time. Its a sound thats cant be understood till its heard live. Just pure hairy balls horse power. The silk cut Jags got their doors blown off that day. Just an amazing car and absolutely beautiful to look at.
Anyway, engineers did a good job, putting "quite" short gears, if you are brave enough to call a 130 km/h first gear "short"... The ratio of every gear is close to each other.
It was designed specifically to race on tracks like this. Look at the list of tracks used in the 1990 World Sportscar Championship: Suzuka, Silverstone, Monza, Nurburgring, Mexico City. Fact is that, according to Martin Brundle, who raced against it in a Jaguar, the C-11 just had more downforce while maintaining the same top speed.
small correction : actually 400kph flat, the WM Peugeot prototype in 1988 was clocked at 405kph. racing drivers had to be completely mental to do that ... at NIGHT !!!
Justus Raw me thinks the Pug did 408 and Kenny {Facebook mate of mine} did 405...but your damm right doing 230 mph + at night , I give them all the credit they are due on those roads back then, and even now....I will check with Kenny mate
Quadrant14 Justus Raw is correct, the WMP88 did 405kph(251.5533MPH) in the 1988 24hr of LeMans, the driver was Roger Dorchy and he set the LeMans speed record that still stands today because of the added 1990 Mulsanne Straight Chicane's 1 and 2. The C-9 Mercedes of 1989 did 400kph (248.5484 mph) driven by pole winner Jean-Louis Schlesser.
The difference between the WM Peugeot and the Sauber Merc was, the Merc did 400km/h every lap no problem do so.and the guys at WM duct tape all the gaps and inlets for less drag. But with no air going into the cooling inlets the WM gave up the ghost very soon after the Mulsanne speed run.
I miss the Group C days, the sheer diversification of cars/sounds etc… it was an incredible time for motorsport which will unfortunately never be replicated☹️
C11 virus is grove in me every time I look and listen this peace of racing art. Love Mazda, Porsche, AM, Panoz, ... but this car is every time deeper under my skin. Great video!
C-9, C-11, 787, xjr-9, and a little longer back in time the 917, these cars really sound like they are cars that are really on the edge and the Public wants to hear that when they go to a race. 2018 911RSR is not bad in that regard for now
When Mercedes make race engine, they extract all emotions and harmonics, they leave only hamers of hell. That is why those engines sound so brutal, sawage and demonic. I never ever hear any of their racing car to produce just a little of merciful harmonic. Don't know is that one of reason why I love them so. Such beautiful plain and functional, to me this is one of best racing car ever built.
SCshooter85 Nope, its DOHC. But its a torquy crossplane V8 with a similar exhaust arrangement to the american cars so it sounds like an american pushrod =)
Dimitris Varsos they are right hand drive so when they pit they can get in and put of the car faster since the next driver has to climb from the right side
That racetrack sadly lacks the long LeMans straight this fab car was built for, allowing speeds in excess of 400 kph. Must be frustrating not to be able to run over 280 with this greatest of racing car.
cobrafan427 they used the mercedes arena section in WEC and they didn't here, so wec would probably beat this car on this configuration of the nurburgring
Even it's "Sauber C9" name sounds so beastly, I instantly fell in love the first time I saw this car, was almost 10 years ago, and I still fear this saint beast of group c... damn I wish I could hear it in live...
No they're not actually lol?? First gear going 120 and 2nd to 180 and 3rd 230+ are not short gears lol. It's just the 8 cylinders and turbos that go through them very quick
Yes, it was a Group C machine. 950 hp in QUALIFYING trim to set a lap. 720 hp for the races. It was "mildly" turbocharged in comparison to the Porsche flat 6. Mercedes struck a great "middle ground" with just enough turbocharging and just enough engine size to meet requirements, make power and "save" gas.
Incredible sounding motor, sounds like a NASCAR with a German accent. I was at Le Mans in the late 80’s and 90, the a sight and sound that won’t ever leave me is of the Merc coming down into Indianapolis and then blasting out of Arnage in the small hours of a Sunday morning
Sounds better than that ! Sounds like Armageddon !!
Buba Ganoush hahaha
The sound is of a cross-plane V8
MUCH better than nascar lol
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This Group C, the F1-V10 time, Rally Group B, DTM of 80s&90s were the best Racingcars and Typ of all Time.
F1 V12 in the 90s and V6 turbo in the 80s too 😊
Can-am and F1 V12 too!
@@janosh4664 i'd say no to turbo f1 from the 80's but the 90s 3.5L spec engines were not that bad.
Don't forget as well: 4 Rotor
@@RosalieValentineCHENG 4 rotor was a shit engine always losing everything.
Todays F1 looks and SOUNDS like a bad joke compare to this!... This car is a fuckin racing beast! Awesome!!!
Group C racing cars (and GT1, GT2, and IMSA also come to mind) are like the military jets of the automotive..... Spectacular everything about them!
never liked mercedes's muscle-ish engines but this is just plain brutality
1:35
Perfection... Simply the perfect engine sound...
The more I watch this, the more I think the C11 actually surpasses the 917 in my all time top 2. I was lucky enough to be track/stage side most weekends in the 80's and got to see Group C, Group B, Group A, F2/F3000 and F1 perhaps at their pinnacle of speed without tech killing them. The C11 was incredible.
QUE MIERDA TIENE Q VER LA F1 Y F2 CON UN ENDURANCE CAR IMBECIL
Was lucky enough to see these race at Sandown in Australia. I still remember it like yesterday hearing this thing come down the straight for the first time. Its a sound thats cant be understood till its heard live. Just pure hairy balls horse power. The silk cut Jags got their doors blown off that day. Just an amazing car and absolutely beautiful to look at.
Every sound is so pure and raw audio excitement
Poor baby is hating that tiddly little track. Wants to be at LE MANS!!!! What a missile.
Anton Spilhaus Nordschleife is better, it has a nice long straight too
Anyway, engineers did a good job, putting "quite" short gears, if you are brave enough to call a 130 km/h first gear "short"...
The ratio of every gear is close to each other.
It was designed specifically to race on tracks like this. Look at the list of tracks used in the 1990 World Sportscar Championship: Suzuka, Silverstone, Monza, Nurburgring, Mexico City. Fact is that, according to Martin Brundle, who raced against it in a Jaguar, the C-11 just had more downforce while maintaining the same top speed.
That violent Sauber Mercedes engine... In a blindfolded sound quiz, I would recognize it easily.
Monster Group C car along with the Merc C-9. Kenny Acheson was clocked at 405 kph on the Mulsanne at Le Mans, listen to that engine
small correction : actually 400kph flat, the WM Peugeot prototype in 1988 was clocked at 405kph.
racing drivers had to be completely mental to do that ... at NIGHT !!!
Justus Raw me thinks the Pug did 408 and Kenny {Facebook mate of mine} did 405...but your damm right doing 230 mph + at night , I give them all the credit they are due on those roads back then, and even now....I will check with Kenny mate
Quadrant14 Justus Raw is correct, the WMP88 did 405kph(251.5533MPH) in the 1988 24hr of LeMans, the driver was Roger Dorchy and he set the LeMans speed record that still stands today because of the added 1990 Mulsanne Straight Chicane's 1 and 2. The C-9 Mercedes of 1989 did 400kph (248.5484 mph) driven by pole winner Jean-Louis Schlesser.
The difference between the WM Peugeot and the Sauber Merc was, the Merc did 400km/h every lap no problem do so.and the guys at WM duct tape all the gaps and inlets for less drag. But with no air going into the cooling inlets the WM gave up the ghost very soon after the Mulsanne speed run.
I miss the old Mulsanne
I just love straight cut gears
Simply my favourite Group C of all time and to my ears the best sounding
I miss the Group C days, the sheer diversification of cars/sounds etc… it was an incredible time for motorsport which will unfortunately never be replicated☹️
These cars have to be more interesting than even F1 today. Brutal sound, beautiful design. Intoxicating.
Wow...magnificent. I could listen to the onboard portion audio all day, playing in the background like Bach, Mozart, or Chopin. Absolutely symphonic.
The golden era of car racing
C11 virus is grove in me every time I look and listen this peace of racing art. Love Mazda, Porsche, AM, Panoz, ... but this car is every time deeper under my skin.
Great video!
The engines that made all the guys look at each other and just nod their heads.
This is beautiful.
What a car. What an engine. What a sound !!
Back when cars had a manual gearbox
Mechanical manual
@@drrichasaini3598 with a pedal clutch!!!!!
And a H pattern shifter
And no driving assistances!
OK it said it was a sequential shifter in the beginning but does this stil have a clutch pedal
Pure sound of joy
C-9, C-11, 787, xjr-9, and a little longer back in time the 917, these cars really sound like they are cars that are really on the edge and the Public wants to hear that when they go to a race. 2018 911RSR is not bad in that regard for now
When Mercedes make race engine, they extract all emotions and harmonics, they leave only hamers of hell. That is why those engines sound so brutal, sawage and demonic.
I never ever hear any of their racing car to produce just a little of merciful harmonic.
Don't know is that one of reason why I love them so.
Such beautiful plain and functional, to me this is one of best racing car ever built.
Oh now this is a real race car. That sound is incredible and manual shifter. Thanks for this great video. More videos like this
Awesome videos! Thank you for posting. That car has serious thrust. Love the turbos.
LOVE this car. Loved, and still love Group C. I saw them in Canada and Mexico City. Fabulous.
Mercedes Benz always had the best sounding V8s and that's not debatable.
The lap time is even faster then that of recent F1-Cars (lap record 2013: 1:41.147) In a car, that ist 25 Years old! Absolutely insane.
@@ueberlicht_ they are not even driving the same version of the track. lol
not true and they are not even the same track layout
realSteak86, LOL!!!!
🤣😂😆
Modern F1 cars would show any endurance race car around *ANY & ALL* race courses.
They cannot be compared - SPEEDWISE.
Wonderfull Sound!
Sounds better than all current F1 cars combined!
SCshooter85 Nope, its DOHC. But its a torquy crossplane V8 with a similar exhaust arrangement to the american cars so it sounds like an american pushrod =)
Yu Omori it sounds like NASCAR
@@omarlopez7089 except without turbos
Awesome machine!
That was strong heel-toe game.
Wicked good. Thanks for great posting
Everytime I see onboard Gr.C footage, I can't help to notice the awessomeness of being a manual transmission beast!
Dimitris Varsos they are right hand drive so when they pit they can get in and put of the car faster since the next driver has to climb from the right side
Thank You very much!!
And secondly, most of the circuits turn clockwise and balance is better when you sit inside the corner.
Ohhh, and among clockwise circuits is De La Sarthe! Now I see!!! Thanks a lot!
The acceleration on this car is exceptional. Wouldn't mind drinking it on South African roads.
Watch out for potholes ;-)
If The Terminator was a car…
Well done Frank...ich liebe die Sauber Gr.C
Fastet Race Lap of the F1 GP 2013: F Alonso 1:33,4
22 year old Sauber C11 : 1:35,8 (with quicker chicane)
Pretty impressive performance!
Also with half of the first sector cut. Still pretty impressive
The same engine used in CLK-LM and CLR...
But with larger displacement and different crankshaft...
😮real race car
If the Devil went car racing recon he'd chose this car
This and the CLK GTR are probably my 2 favourite race cars of all time
This thing is an absolute rocket
Utterly... Utterly... Awesome
Best sound period!
2:28 thats the sound from assetto corsa
Ye God's of Thor ! What a machine !! That sound !!!!!!!
The mix of the turbo V8 and the gear changes he's doing sound surprisingly similar to a late model Koenigsegg in cabin
Both very high boost v8 flatplane crank engines i believe
@@HelixBeats98none of the older koenigsegg used flat plane until the newest renditions. Jesko etc
The sauber also is crossplane
@@azeQify ahhh yes i messed up, i meant crossplane. Just like the yamaha r1 2008+ models that have this low grunting sound , also crossplane.
Is it wrong i only see the GP track as a way to warm up your tires before going on to "the real track" ?
This is the most insane sound in the world :-)
Next to the V12 Jags, that is THE COOLEST sounding group C car ever...
brilliant!same MOTEC on the porsche Cup car!
That racetrack sadly lacks the long LeMans straight this fab car was built for, allowing
speeds in excess of 400 kph. Must be frustrating not to be able to run over 280 with this
greatest of racing car.
brutal sound......... so nice
Ferocious!
Beautiful cars, they are missed.
man this car can reach more than 400 km\h !!!! this is freaking awesome
No it can't. Never did. The Sauber C9 achieved 400 km/h _once_ at Le Mans in 1989. This car never raced on the old 5.8 km Mulsanne straight.
@@thethirdman225 you just said it did
@@afoxwithahat7846 No, I was talking about the C9. This car is a C11.
Le son du moteur 😍🔊🔊🔊
where the fuck did this engine go. it belongs in Every damn SMH model today. that sound is incredible.
That is a Hewland 5-Speed gearbox.
Is nobody gonna talk ab how accurate the telemetry is?
utter beast
Why does it say sequential gearbox in the beginning when he's clearly shifting a dog leg pattern?
Hey I sent a video response about the sauber Mercedes c9, do you think you could accept it. I would love it if you could, thank you! :D
does that one fly as well?
Sauber forever 😩
MB C-11 😘👌 Chef's kiss.
Eargasm i love this Car
that turbo spool at 5th gear 6500rpm... 👌👌👌 real airplane turbine taking off
And the Sauber is doing qualifying. Look at F1 qualifying times compared to race lap times
Man that coiled radio line would drive me up the wall.
It goes like hell...
What recent car sounds like this?
Amazing video!
The C11 is so fast thanks to those Turbos that helps it accelarate so fast, Awesome car😊
What a monster :D
It's not a sequential like the text said at the start. It's manual.
That looks like proper fun to drive though
To put the speed in perspective, the average time the Audi R18 clocked to get pole in the WEC race was 1:39
cobrafan427 they used the mercedes arena section in WEC and they didn't here, so wec would probably beat this car on this configuration of the nurburgring
Ah yeah, didn't even notice the two slowest corners on the circuit were missing. Must've been distracted by the engine note lol
cobrafan427 haha that isn't a strange thing, it sounds amazing!
C11 vs 787B: who would've won?
One of the greatest race car in history! Sad that the FIA killed the group C.
I never had this car in truismo but always raced against it fucking fast
That's because you didn't sit the full 24 hours
Very good Race line. Late apex all the way. Top!
Is this the Nürburgring GP circuit?
Even it's "Sauber C9" name sounds so beastly, I instantly fell in love the first time I saw this car, was almost 10 years ago, and I still fear this saint beast of group c... damn I wish I could hear it in live...
now THAT is a racecar!
Was für ein Monster!!!
This baby, garage 56 Camaro and Cadillac V.R lmdh have the best v8 engine sounds in le mans
Bloody brutal
it is correctly and officially called the _mercedes-benz c11_ .
Yesssss
man those gears are freakin' short.
No they're not actually lol?? First gear going 120 and 2nd to 180 and 3rd 230+ are not short gears lol. It's just the 8 cylinders and turbos that go through them very quick
It's a race car, what would you expect
Sehr geiles Video Frank. Die hatten noch E.... in der Hose.
I'd be relieved not to have to go 400kph. That's such a scary speed for a race track with alot of bumps!
Mercedes-Benz M119
I wonder how this car could meet group c requirements . v8 5.0 twinturbo engine with 1000 hp . While porsche 962 had twice smaller capacity
This car _was_ a Group C car. It did not produce 1,000 hp. Anyone who thinks it did does not understand Group C racing.
Yes, it was a Group C machine. 950 hp in QUALIFYING trim to set a lap. 720 hp for the races. It was "mildly" turbocharged in comparison to the Porsche flat 6. Mercedes struck a great "middle ground" with just enough turbocharging and just enough engine size to meet requirements, make power and "save" gas.