@@geopoint_yeah South Korea has about 0.40 ratio of fertility, while Japan has almost double that. If we think Japan’s in trouble, then double that for South Korea. Also, South Korea is now the top of Suicide Rates in the world. While Japan is now the same rate as Finland, the happiest nation on Earth. That’s means something.
Population decline is not necessarily a bad thing, as long as it's managed. If you want everyone in the world to enjoy the same, high standard of living, that's difficult because resources are limited. I don't think there's a workable solution if each country, on its own, has to jerryrig their own demographics. It should be a worldwide coordinated effort. Immigration is a good first step.
When you have a culture that is more focused on careers and work, instead of people and families, less people will marry, and have children. Japan and other Asian countries are reaping what they've sown.
Actually it is the opposite. Japan male politicians try to do a lot to increase birth rate, but zjey do not ask what women want. Same in South Korea. Women are just not acceping anymore beeing slaves of men.
Not just those asian nations. In Europe too. It is this idea of a "career" (originally a military concept) what pushes people to invest all their time and effort on it. It was wrong when it was only something that affected men, but now that women have falled for this scheme, it is destroying entire countries. And no, accepting immigrants (mostly young men) from very different cultures is not going to help, because the root cause is not being addressed.
The idea that people want to have more and more money was invented by Calvin. Before it was a sin to be rich and beggars were cherished. In our days even outside the USA we think it is normal to consume unnecessary things and buy cars.
@@maritaschweizer1117 Vastly overstates Calvin’s influence in the world, as well as Christianity’s influence in general. Early Christian values of caring for the poor were pretty unique and revolutionary in the ancient and medieval world, and not all that dominant even within Christendom.
Japan is not alone. All developed countries and east Asian countries have below-replacement fertility, and in most of them it is declining further. When careers are emphasized, and to get one, a person must spend their youth at university, children don't happen.
@@AgathaLOutahere There are very few areas/regions on Earth where it doesn't have below replacement rates right now. US is definitely not one of them. Only Africa and the Middle East has above replacement rate whereas everywhere else, it's below.
@@AgathaLOutahere It 100% is. Please show me the official source(s) where the US is not below the population replacement level? In 2021, the official birth rate in the US was 1.66. However, in 2023, the birth rate in the US was 1.78 so an increase. Having said that, you need 2.1 kids in order to sustain and replace the dying population. The US is not nearly as bad as what's going on in Japan, S. Korea, China and similar countries, but it's still not at replacement level.
I am from Turkey, I hope our population starts to decrease too. Our population increase has dropped significantly, young people have shifted to secularism, morality has deteriorated.
You touched on the cost but you missed the number one reason that is semi hidden. Employment instability. Japanese people especially men used to start work in their early 20s and be pretty much guaranteed to work at the same company for 50 years with steadily increasing wages. Many young people now work at the same companies but as contractors at a much lower salary and without job security. They never have enough money or stability to start a family.
that's not the reason. Here in Austria, we have both good salaries AND job security yet we still aren't having kids, either. It's about women joining the workforce amd not mentally being willing to sit on two chairs at the same time. (I'm a career woman.) It is expected that after 1yr of age of my child, I return to the workforce like a robot and leave the child....where exactly? Children are a nuisance to the corporate world. And my career will never recover.
@@NoctLightCloud I think you missed the point. MEN had enough salary and job security to support a family to a reasonable degree and that freed the women to have several children and be there to raise them. Now a Japanese young couple barely has enough to support themselves on two salaries so supporting 3 or 4 family members on one unreliable salary is out of the question.
@@NoctLightCloud There you go, my dudes. The real issue is not economic, but, rather, cultural. As long as women prioritise career, freedom and "girl bossing" over children and family, the Western civilisation will continue declining. Turd Flinging Monkey has an idea on how to solve this issues. I would suggest to check him out.
Exactly! used to live and work in rural Japan. taxes depends on previous year's income, fine if you're on the escalator of lifetime employment, not so great if you've been told "you can keep your job, but we're only going to pay you half as much" , in hindsight, losing my permanent residence status due to the pandemic was a blessing; yes I lost the "privilege" of being able to work here, but Japan lost the privilege of being able to tax me. I'm on a tourist visa now, enjoying cheap yen.
@@LamLawIndy Working is the key, taxes isn't. Taxes is what makes people work, and the work is what is desired. The government can create currency, but they can't create nurses or farmers. You support pensioners by having enough nurses and the like to give them the care, and farmers to provide the food. Running out of workers means you run out of supply of goods and services. And when you run out, the nation becomes poor. The currency is just an accounting tool. That is why they are now giving out so much currency for children to be born; because they realised the child is more valuable than a million dollars.
In addition to promoting people living in villages, the government should provide tax breaks to businesses that allow employees to work remotely. That way, people can live in underpopulated villages and work from home!
@@SystemBD They won't. 8 million abandoned homes in Japan. No one wants them because no one wants to live in the sticks. Schools closed down and/or turned into care homes for the elderly. You're talking about a subject you have scant knowledge about.
we can't all be software engineers, somebody has to harvest the cabbages or clean the lavatories at the train station; Japan doesn't have negative income tax for the working poor, there is no rebate in February as in America, no GST rebate as in Canada, instead you get a deluge of demands for payment from City Hall, which is more similar to an Ottoman empire tax farm than a North America municipality.
I married a lovely Japanese woman 24 years ago. We have three children together. If the Government of Japan is listening...I did my part in trying to help with your population issues. The pleasure was all mine*)
China’s population started to decrease by 800k in 2022, and a whopping 2 million in 2023, all the while China’s GDP/Capita is still only 10k+, as opposed to to Japan’s 52k. I think China is in a way deeper crisis than Japan; they got old before they got rich.
The problem is worse than simply lower fertility rates. Childbirth is also being delayed. Having children at 38 rather than at 18 means that not only is the next generation smaller, it is effectively skipping generations.
They are not alone. Italy is disappearing, China did it to themselves intentionally, and Russia is killing off all of its young men. The world is changing, all over. Same problem, different routes taken, same result.
So, I'm progressing through JLPT certs, but here in the US I can work a flat 40 hours a week in engineering and go home. If I move to Japan even at a salary match, I feel that I can expect to work 60 hours or more for no gain. I can use Japanese here to benefit my career and company. Japan is really cool with a beautiful language, a rich history and amazing sights to see, but I struggle to realize even with the mindset of adapting to Japanese culture and not bringing my own with expecations for them to change for me, the draw beyond novelty of immigrating my skilled labor with my wife.
Money alone will not help much. Make work life balance a priority so that patents spend time at home with family and basic necessities more affordable and easily accessible. People will only procreate if they have leisure time and money.
...peace of mind, don't forget that. If everything you have can be taken away at the next layoff at no fault of your own, you will never have peace of mind.
Yeah, most weekdays it seems like so many people don't do anything outside of work. How are they supposed to meet new people, date, and make a life outside of work that will lead to marriage and kids? Work is important to a degree but clearly there are more important things
Yes, it is! But Japan's population is much smaller and its population decline is happening at a much faster rate, which means its way closer to the "point of no return" than China or any other country. Beyond that, there are some underying cultural issues causing this that I didn't touch on here. Would you watch a video on that?
@@geopoint_yes we would. The hikiko mori situation has had a horrendous impact. Japan also just plain ignored it the same way they ignore mental health and physical disabilities.
That's probably true in many countries, just because kids grow up and out of diapers pretty quickly while many old folks live many years needing diapers.
Having spent a fair amount of time in Japan, I would add that there are some problematic cultural dimensions as well. Far fewer Japanese are even getting into relationships. Even if the government gave you 80k for each baby you have, you can't make babies if you're not having sex.
Amazing how the Middle East where people die in every way possible but suicide is nowhere near this situation, don't you find it interesting that Iraq which suffered from war isn't suffering from population decline while the safest countries in the world are having a hard time convincing their people to carry on living?
@sadhu7191 My point is that cultures without any sort of spirituality and beliefs won't survive long even with the best quality of life, the middle east has strong faith that's why they pull through no matter how hard it is
True I've noticed this too I'm from Somalia, the literal shithole of the world and the suicide rate is almost non existent, then you look at countries like Finland (the happiest country in the world) and they have one of the highest suicide rates in Europe I find it interesting
@zuesadam7143 because Somalia are Muslims, don't be sad brother, have faith in Allah, our test is hard but look at Gaza they have the toughest test yet they haven't given up and they believe in Allah and they always say Alhamdulliah, we must stay strong because Allah is merciful no matter what happens to Muslims Allah will make it ok , and he will be gentle with us because he is closer to us than our veins, he is more merciful than our parents and than ourselves, even if we don't understand the hardships that we are going through we must believe that Allah knows best and that if we believe in him all the hardships we will end well. I'm a Palestinian myself but I live in Jordan not Palestine, it's not dangerous here but we also suffer from poverty lack of basic needs and jobs are scarce, but Alhamdulliah for everything we have here, my relatives live in Palestine and their lives are much harder than we could imagine
@@leenamustafabooks1377 thank you brother, it's heartwarming to see fellow Muslims this faithful despite all the hardships we're going through, Sometimes I get depressed thinking about the situation of the Muslim world but then I see despite all the advantages the westerns have it still isn't enough for them Alhamdulilah for Islam because no matter how hard life gets Allah will always be merciful And I pray for things to get better for you and for the people of Palestine that have endured so much yet so steadfast insha'Allah the sun will shine on us again
As someone that gave birth in Japan, it’s not enough. Funnily enough, currently I had to take a long break from work because I had to move neighborhoods, meaning I need to find another nursery. But there aren’t enough nurseries available, and it takes so much time and effort to get in one. Imagine you can only apply latest by a month before admission, and there is a 22 people waiting list 🤯 People only use bicycles and trains so if there is no nursery in the vicinity, I would have to go more than 5km by bike with a child, then go bak the other direction just to get to the train station?? So basically I’ve been waiting for months to get into a nearby school and at this rate my child cant get into school until the new school year in April. To put into perspective, I live in Osaka. There should be more nurseries available. And my company is making me write a list of reasons, coupled with documentation from the city hall on why my kid can’t get into school cuz I’m not allowed to take long breaks. I mean I’m not even getting paid so why is it a problem. Crazy thing is my job is remote workable but thy prefer me to the office. Now I have no salary and trying to raise a kid with hardly any help from the government. All I got was around 120 USD a month but that isn’t even enough to cover buying diapers and milk a month. Rather than feeding us this meager amount of money, create more situations where women can live a healthy lifestyle juggling work and having kids. And companies should have more empathy on mothers and stop penalizing them for not being men that can leave all home issues to their wives
Developed countries around the world need to get serious about tackling this problem before it's too late. They need to offer incentives large enough to where being a stay at home mom with 5 kids is a viable career option. I know that sounds weird. But that's the only way to save us from total collapse across the globe. People go where the money is nowadays.
Money can't solve this. It's a (female) mindset thing. People have been brainwashed to be cowards, make excuses, hate themselves and their families etc.
In about 100 years or so, Japan may end up like Mongolia. The capital is heavily populated but the rest of the country is mostly empty. This means many popular tourist destinations around the country would probably be abandoned and the country’s iconic bullet trains would probably go bankrupt since not many people may ride them as they’d go to cities/towns with little to no population, let alone civilization.
The global population was 1 billion in 1804. The population exploded to over 8 billion. That was extremely concerning, on which we didn’t talk. The explosion of the population is the major reason for global warming, ocean acidification, disappearing forests, pollution of the entire earth and extinctions of numerous species. “Collapse” is a vocabulary of fear mongers. When the population decline slowly till 2100, we can manage the transition. We have lots of technologies to manage it. And it is in our hand, to do it in a socially acceptable and human way. The last years since pandemic made us clear, that the majority isn’t immune against deception, manipulation and brainwashing. It made us clear, that our greed, laziness and negligence is the real threat. The USD is “collapsing” ( fear monger alarm :-) right now. And it gives us the chance to reflect on our own thoughts and improve our future.
Unfortunately, Japan has a very ethnocentric culture -- foreigners encounter strong discrimination. You are very much a second-class citizen as a foreigner in Japan. As for the Japanese government policies, they simply won't work. The gap between the current birth rate (about 1.2) to the replacement rate (2.1) is simply too great. Japan's policy changes are just tinkering around the edges of the problem.
They would need to reform a lot more aspects of the workforce to give people more free time to have a life outside work Like making overtime pay mandatory if one works more than 40 hours no matter in what industry as a way to incentivize companies to stop keeping people longer at work if not absolutely necessary
If they accept immigrants it's over for Japan. Look at Europe. They got wrecked by immigrants. Hopefully Japan keeps its borders VERY closed except for maybe a few people from China and Korea. Also maybe a few from SE asia but if people from Africa come it will be very sad
I would not underestimate the capability of Japanese society, to change drastically. Japan was the only country, which could change from a medieval society directly to an industrial society and thus escaping colonization. Japan also changed drastically after 1945. I believe, they can also change their demograhic patterns. Of course, that does not happen immediately, but I think, twenty years can be a reasonable time, to achieve a change. And concerning demography, 20 years is a short period. But I think, European societies are not able to change. When Immigration from middle eastern countries will suceed to gain a majority, the most active parts of the European population will emigrate and those, which stay, will finish to reproduce, because they feel, there is no future for their children. To adopt European immigration politics would mean, to destroy everything, what made Japan successfull.
Foreigners can work in Japan but most salary is capped at $2000 per month with no increment. Foreign workers also complain of being isolated by their Jap peers so most wont work long term.
@@schurlbirkenbach1995 In the modern world we often forget that Europeans regarded each other as ennemies for most of history. I think each European country is handling birth rate decline in a different fashion. For example, Poland and Hungary want to remain ethnically pure. Their governments are giving economic incentives for couples to have more kids. Germany has a large Turkish population that is not integrating. Moroccans and Algerians in France are having an easier time assimilating. Similar for the Caribbean black community in Britain. They have a very high rate of out-marriage, mostly with whites. As for Japan, that's an excellent point.
Number of births in Japan was about 726 tsd in 2023 but numer of deaths is above 1,5 mln. So about 800 tsd less people a year. In a decade Japan will shrink its popualtion about 8 mln. Median age in Japan is 49,1 years,
No problem, Japan already has literally the final solution for aging population problem. That's called 'ubasute-yama' or oldies dumping yards, which has been part of Japan's history for thousands of years.
@@To411u What's important is their dna is japanese. I would think their children attending japanese schools, watching japanese tv, they would pick up the culture quickly.
Why would they go back...the pressure on the working part of the population will increase every year..longer working hours..higher taxes to pay the old...you give your children a harder life than outside Japan...if i were a Japanese parent i would learn my kids to speak English fluently and give them an international outlook...
Nah, the people don't really emphasize on career either as most people don't even have career planning/strategy Their focus is simply scattered No life plan No career plan and it's just getting worse with social media
Yes it has! Australia tried it and had some short-term success. I made a video about it. Watch here: ua-cam.com/video/tYSCZj6H-vY/v-deo.htmlsi=9RwKg70pXYFBqDrD
Population collapse in Japan is not a problem. The wealth of the country will be shared wit 1/2 the population. Fine. Please do not destroy Japan by allowing foreigner's to replace Japanese.
Japan is doomed, and it has no one to blame but itself. You can't just throw money at the problem, hoping it will go away, especially when the older generation, especially the leaders, still run it the old way: 1) group first individual not at all, 2) Seniority over creativity, 3) Work over family, 3) Low wages, 4) discrimination against women and foreigners, etc. Those responsible should Seppuku to save the country.
And the money they give is laughably not enough, are they even serious at trying to fix it? It's like what, $4000 per child? That barely covers anything
@@TheSilverShadow17 Can't keep growing forever on a finite planet. Planned degrowth is the answer to avoid horrible pain, suffering and collapse. We won't do that will we? How about some evidence from you?
@@maglemose7843 The Earth is capable of supporting more than 8 billion of us but I can see why that isn't feasible in the long run. That being said it's not impossible for some countries to maintain and stabilize their population either. I mean yeah less people means more room and resources and all but at the same time there are downsides to it as well.
@@edheldude why don't you try to explain this to a 9 year old child dying from cancer or to the people dying from starvation in Yemen because of war or to the families living in extreme poverty from 10 generations...
@@ameygade1977 Well in Yemen's case you have to forgive your parents for being such f%ckups and not taking better care of their society and culture. Pain they have is the direct consequence of their actions and inactions. Depending on cancer it can be the result of your lifestyle choices or in rare cases some genetic glitch. You can accept the pain of the situation in either case. Imperfection, or dukkha in Buddhism, is painful and you can free yourself from it by accepting it. I myself lived in hell for 20 years and am now pain-free.
Sorry guys it's worse then that. Humanity has 18 days before the great reset. The world population peak was in 2018 at 9.176b ppl. Now we at 1750million world wide with 10million ppl dying a day since COVID began. Every country world wide Japan, China India all has drop to extinction lvls when then then the world with most populated countries including south and central America. All you have to do is open your eyes and see there ain't as much ppl in your home town as there used to be
The stupid part is English speaking clever people would say "all you have to do is import a bunch of people who aren't like you, don't like you, and don't want to be like you." You know, because Japan would still be Japan if the Japanese were replaced by, well, anybody. It would not be so bad if old people had the ability to pick up and carry stuff. And to think. I'm on the cusp of old, and I am shocked at how many 55+ people just decide to stop thinking. Is that the case in Japan, too? And Japanese government forces retirement? Did I hear that right?
Good, will be the best thing for the planet and everyone…. People will start to breed again when the population drops and life becomes more pleasant. Less people, less competition, people will become more tolerable, so people will socialise more and therefore breed more. The population boom in the past 200 years was extreme, this is just a natural correction.the centuries before the boom population growth was glacial.
When I was living in Japan, Japanese women told me that they don’t want to become the caretakers of their husband’s elderly parents as is the tradition in Japan for centuries. The Western Women I know who married Japanese guys say that he was so sweet and nice when they were dating but he then turned into a totalitarian dictator once they were married. Young Japanese Women want to have fun. They want to travel, have their own interests. And it’s extremely difficult for Japanese kids who are under pressure cooker type conditions to excel academically. They are under far too much stress. Young people don’t want to have kids and put them through all of that. A father and son both committed suicide together when I was there because the son didn’t get accepted to the university they’d chosen.
"Functioning" means different things to different people. When workers are harder to get, employee salaries and benefits increase. The thing that causes governments trouble is the fact there are fewer young people paying taxes, part of which supports "old folks". This decline has been going on for years. Women became more liberated and got tired of sitting at home evenings while the hubby was "out with the boys".
I think many people don't realize how exponential decrease works. If the current trend continues (that is not sure) , Japan will reach the density of population of a country like Spain (that is currently in its historical high) after THREE generations (aprox a century). Hardly a short-term catastrophe. I often see too how many people don't realize that the demographic explosion in 20th century was very dramatic. People are calling the rebound back to middle 20th century levels a tragedy. As far as we know, what is currently happening in developed countries is not dramatically dangerous and looks as a come back to levels of decades ago. This repeated catastrophic message reminds me about certain catastrophic predictions about the covid. Those predictions were unbelievably inaccurate and caused damaging knee-jerk reactions. Let's see how population numbers would evolve in a mathematical way, not giving random figures. Then, let's compare with the population of decades ago. Yes, the population gets older on average when birth rate decreases, but it doesn't get older and older, it reaches an equilibrium. Let's not forget we now have an enormous advantage in technological advanced over mid or early 20th century. There is no problem of maintenance with the current numerical trends of population decrease, for generations.
Nobody can calculate how a country can function with 30%+ of retirees, population shrinking by 1% per year while supporting a financial system that can't eliminate debts.
Japan's debt to GDP is already astronomical, you seriously think they will be fine with their population getting older and having less and less tax revenue and labor supply?
Either labor gets to be in such short supply that there's premium on wages and people can afford kids, or they die out. Immigration is just a stop gap.
It sounds as if Japan is moving in the right direction to help their population problems. Once people start moving to smaller towns and working online they will be together more to let nature take its course. Maybe the other countries with this problems should do the same. None of these countries be ignoring their orphan children. Maybe the seniors can be paid to adopt these childrens and give them a home in a small town in the country.
7:01 this is the best and goodnews for people want working in japan expecially young people from southeast asia like malaysia thaialdn vietnam philipines and indonesia also have even the basic japanese language that need to help and increase they ability to help japan economy for two country benefit
Foreign workers are discrimunated in Japan. Their salaries are capped and they cannot progress up the corporate ladder...many professional migrant workd will leave Jaoan after a year or two after realizing they cant progress...so many professionaps in South East Asia will prefer to go to other countries that are more progressive towards migrant. workers like Australia, Germany, Canada and even US that need young prifessoonals.
@@hijazzains ok thanks for telling me, I'm sure if I had the power I would have pissed off the Japanese even though I respect them doesn't mean I have to let them go. did they make a mistake? if you have a friend who does wrong, you don't want to let it go, do you? you have to be angry and reprimand him so that he realizes that his actions are wrong and bothering others, about discrimination, my country has faced a lot of racial discrimination, the economy and many other things, so we are used to that situation even though our country is safe but the security is not remain for a long time if the people of his country fail to solve the problem, great chaos will be triggered not because of the war but because of the attitude of the rebels, that must be avoided no matter what happens, it is not like the UN which failed to solve the problem of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict which only increases the number of Muslims who will embrace the religion that's beautiful and true because of our steadfastness, God's pepper never goes out, Japan should also understand that every nation has the same spirit as them, if they have a reason to discriminate us, please, we have the right too, our intention is to help, can't we do more, right??? you are human he is human Otherwise, if Japan is a robot, it will be difficult to understanding 😒😒 anyway i knoe japan is not like that, they just so protect what they like to follow, so genius but also stupid
@@afizi1213 japan is not solving their problems, their economy is in long term decline, only Toyota is in the top 50 fortune company, Japanese are increasingly lookiing inward unfortunately
It is the precursor of Urban modern society. The major key factor is house is getting more expensive and size decrease so it is too crampy to start family. This is the mismangement of most country by builidng smaller and smaller house. In affluent societies, the cost of raising children is too extorbitant.
Pay one person female or male to be full time parent. A small amount extra for extra kids. Otherwise, only those already going to have kids by choice will have the benefit. Government saying I'll give you $100 to go buy a car and the rest is up to you. Not a good deal!
The “west” is importing millions of people. That’s the only reason it’s not as bad as Japan. Actual home grown people don’t have kids anymore, I think it’s a good thing.
As a medical doctor I wonder why using negative words "collapse, scaring, worrying"? It seems you did not take into account a huge factor : progress such as in medicine and life extension, transhumanism and people living centuries. In other words ; Accept to age and treat seriously the "consequences of aging". Because old age is not necessarily a shipwreck if you can be young for centuries. Lastly, you did not consider AI and robotics which will compensate the workforce : Agility Robotics is constructing the first massive humanoid factory to produce 10 000 robots a year. It is time to move from traditional view, don't you think?
Agree with robotics being a big factor in not really needing a large population, but unnatural life extension is another problem we don't need. Bluntly put, the human race doesn't need a 200 year-old A**hole around, 80 years would be bad enough. Recycling is a good thing. Less to recycle isn't a bad thing.
How is it collapse if it will be like in the 1960s? I mean in the UK that'd be great as houses will be cheaper since the corrupt system won't allow new social housing
Somehow someone keeps gaming the market to avoid letting property prices be influenced by supply and demand. Sure there’s plenty of land for everyone to live on but it is all owned by oligarchs who use it as uncharitably as possible. Just google for the Highlands Clearances in Scottish history, but realise it’s not unique.
Bitcoin solves this. If it's true that money is ultimately the main reason behind it, then the sooner Japan adopts bitcoin and educates its people about it, the better off they will be. If they do it before most other countries, they can benefit massively from it. If they drag their feet and do it later, they will get fucked over.
Japan could probably do it if they became the “America “ of Asia. Open their country to up to citizens from other Asian countries especially ppl looking for a better life. They could probably invite ppl to populate the country towns.
Yes, but where will they go? They have been raised in a way that almost none of them have the language skills or the ability to adapt to a foreign lifestyle
@@ak47323good question...we are looking at a whole new social experiment coming up and thecworld will look closely how China, Japan and especially South Korea will deal with it...i guess there will come a fierce international competition for young and talented people...if i were a Japanese parent i would stimulate my children at least to speak English fluently, go abroad in summerholidays and stimulate them to have an international outlook... They could go to Brazil or Germany where there is already a large Japanese community...
Speaking for myself, the two women I was most interested in, who I met almost thirty years ago, weren't people I wanted sex with. That's not to say I wouldn't have done it if the occasion arose, but the interest was not centered around either of them physically at all. I did not find them appealing physically, or unappealing, just neutral. However, the spirit or mind that occupied them interested me for a long time.
China has also passed peak population and it will be entering a fast population decline soon down to 600 million this will mean it will decline as an industrial powerhouse because an aging population means fewer people will be able to do the jobs. Both China and Japan have no immigrants coming to replace the population and there is no indication that policy will change.
😂😂Why many in UA-cam spreading fear about the decline of population? I will be very happy if it happens in my country...less crowd, easier to find job, easing the burden of nature, less energy consumption...I've been to Japan on JR Pass ,get down in wrong small station and no train schedule to stop till 4 hr later. Decided to walk around, I found it very quiet, nice and peaceful , it is amazing to be able to hear the wind blow and river streaming in the center of the village without nuisance caused by overpopulation. Yes GDP may be impacted, but quality of life is not counted by only money and amount of production.
Agree. My nephew is an urban planner. What they teach at universities now is that "good" urban planning is packing people into small apartments like sardines because it's more cost-efficient. It's pathetic.
This comment is typical...its NOT about absolute numbers....its about the number of workers and non workers at a given moment and how fast that relation alters in time..
@@herbayum76 I assume that's replacement level. At that rate, the relationship between workers and non-workers remains steady. The population would neither increase nor decrease. Why do you believe absolute numbers has no bearing?
Take 25% off rent or mortgage for young couples, another 25% off for every child. With three kids, parents live free of all housing costs. You do that in any country today, and the birth rate would spike. It is otherwise impossible to contemplate having children in today's world.
It has been tried and _it does not work_. This is not a money issue. It's the result of decades of propaganda to change people's (women's) values. It started changing during the s%xual revolution. My country had clear studies and statistics on this.
Debunk ! the People that die are old people and that means less pensions to pay and that's good for the economy ! As for population with all the people that want to come for South East Asian and Europe , etc if japan allow them all in that will mean more that 10 million people !
Tokyo is too big. They need to decentralize. Incentivise big companies to move to other large or midsized cities. That will grow the suburbs around them with people looking for work. Aside from that the black companies are mostly to blame for depopulation because of the unpaid overtime. Dying at your job from overwork is a reality there so much that even has it's own word in Japanese. Maybe create worker protection hotline so workers can report bad business practices anonymously. That will allow for workers to be with there families and not just when they are asleep. You can't make babies if you're too tired to do your wife or if your dead at your desk. 😅 I really wish they could get this done. I always wanted to visit Japan but at this rate it will become a new Part of China before I can save up because the country will disappear and the Chinese will move in.😢
I have an idea... A really popular TV show or anime/ franchise that somehow glamorizes having lots of children There have been lots initiative and programs to get women into STEM courses and careers now. When I was in high school, 90% of boys in AP physics were male and 10% were female. IMO, the most successful thing was purely accidental. It was the show The Big Bang Theory. Physics majors for both men and women skyrocketed and some articles even said "we have no idea why". There was kid's show called Project MC2 which I thought was fcking brilliant because it associated science with girliness, fashion, spies, gadgets, adventures and dolls. Literally each science experiment toy kit came with a doll and .. well it worked lol
Same like in the rest of the world. Only africa have population rise. And Japan is in better situation than western europe. Without mass migration they keep stability of the society.
This is what happens in every places ahead that chooses profits above all. You get people living individualistic lifes working their ass off to barely pay the bills in + and + bs jobs that could be soon or already remplaced by machines. Corporations are the "new" force of power. Sure you can vote, but in masses I think people don’t realize how much power they have in selecting they purchase of good by buying, only when it comes to boycotts ppl do that bc they also want the cheapest above all, thats a vicious circle. This phenomena has been at the root of most of modern societies major problems economically ecologically socially families/birth rate geopolitical etc ..
A shrinking population can only be a good thing for an overpopulated country like Japan. They set an example for the rest of Asia and the whole world. Let the oldies look after the oldies and the problem will sort itself out over time.
If they want to increase permanent residency of immigrants, they are eventually going to have to repeal the law that prohibits non-ethnic Japanese from owning property in Japan. If you want foreigners to stay in your country, you have to give them the option of eventually OWNING their houses, not just renting them forever. Plus, let them own property and they may build more houses themselves (I know there is very little shortage in housing in the non-urban areas, due to the population drop, but a big family needs a big house, and there are fewer of those.
I own property in Japan, bought it when I realized I'd never be able to afford land in Canada. City Hall is so desperate for cash that they don't care where it comes from. Permanent residence timed out in 2020, on tourist visa now. BTW, half the houses around here are empty & abandoned.
Collapse because there's no future generations. If every generation is ~62% of the previous one (1.3/2.1), you have geometric collapse in time. In the three generations you have 24% (0.62^3) of people left. In South Korea there will be only 4 great grandchildren for every 100 current people. 96% of population will not be born in comparison to current population. Basically it means North Korea will take over the peninsula.
As serious as that population collapse is, the Koreans are doing it even quicker.
Yep! I've got a video coming out next week about that!
@@geopoint_yeah South Korea has about 0.40 ratio of fertility, while Japan has almost double that. If we think Japan’s in trouble, then double that for South Korea. Also, South Korea is now the top of Suicide Rates in the world. While Japan is now the same rate as Finland, the happiest nation on Earth.
That’s means something.
@@rolandaustria7926 and add that with who south korea borders... invasion might be soon
And china even faster
@@badmaw7073 not true, it's pretty fast but not THAT fast
Modern societies are all going this way. Maybe we're valuing the wrong things?
We are valuing the wrong things. We must focus our minds upon family and childbearing rather than upon work.
@@c.guibbs1238 Isaiah 13:12 I will make mortal man scarcer than refined gold, and humans scarcer than the gold of Oʹphir.
@@timothycarrington9884No we need to focus on the males working and the females bearing children. Equal value placed on both.
Population decline is not necessarily a bad thing, as long as it's managed. If you want everyone in the world to enjoy the same, high standard of living, that's difficult because resources are limited. I don't think there's a workable solution if each country, on its own, has to jerryrig their own demographics. It should be a worldwide coordinated effort. Immigration is a good first step.
True.Worshipping money is not a good idea. Cultures that value family and children in Africa and South America apparently will inherit the earth.
When you have a culture that is more focused on careers and work, instead of people and families, less people will marry, and have children. Japan and other Asian countries are reaping what they've sown.
Actually it is the opposite. Japan male politicians try to do a lot to increase birth rate, but zjey do not ask what women want. Same in South Korea. Women are just not acceping anymore beeing slaves of men.
Not just those asian nations. In Europe too. It is this idea of a "career" (originally a military concept) what pushes people to invest all their time and effort on it. It was wrong when it was only something that affected men, but now that women have falled for this scheme, it is destroying entire countries. And no, accepting immigrants (mostly young men) from very different cultures is not going to help, because the root cause is not being addressed.
What choice do people have other than to work constantly? The world has been squeezed and squeezed by the 1% until there is no juice left to give.
The idea that people want to have more and more money was invented by Calvin. Before it was a sin to be rich and beggars were cherished. In our days even outside the USA we think it is normal to consume unnecessary things and buy cars.
@@maritaschweizer1117 Vastly overstates Calvin’s influence in the world, as well as Christianity’s influence in general. Early Christian values of caring for the poor were pretty unique and revolutionary in the ancient and medieval world, and not all that dominant even within Christendom.
90000 people older than 100 years is an astonishing fact!
that's like Tuvalu's population 4.5 times! 🇹🇻🇹🇻🇹🇻🇹🇻
Japan is not alone. All developed countries and east Asian countries have below-replacement fertility, and in most of them it is declining further. When careers are emphasized, and to get one, a person must spend their youth at university, children don't happen.
The U.S doesn't have below replacement birth rate.
@@AgathaLOutahereYes it is. It’s at 1.6 now and a minimum of 2.1 is needed.
@@AgathaLOutahere There are very few areas/regions on Earth where it doesn't have below replacement rates right now. US is definitely not one of them. Only Africa and the Middle East has above replacement rate whereas everywhere else, it's below.
@@baiqi44 The U.S. is not below replacement level.
@@AgathaLOutahere It 100% is. Please show me the official source(s) where the US is not below the population replacement level? In 2021, the official birth rate in the US was 1.66. However, in 2023, the birth rate in the US was 1.78 so an increase.
Having said that, you need 2.1 kids in order to sustain and replace the dying population. The US is not nearly as bad as what's going on in Japan, S. Korea, China and similar countries, but it's still not at replacement level.
I live in Japan. This is the cause of a declining economy. Its a vicious cycle. Culture too.
Thats an excuse..
@@Theggman83 you live in Japan?
@@kcjfilms2946 don't need to, kid. Your deflection says way more about you than it does me.
I am from Turkey, I hope our population starts to decrease too. Our population increase has dropped significantly, young people have shifted to secularism, morality has deteriorated.
You touched on the cost but you missed the number one reason that is semi hidden. Employment instability. Japanese people especially men used to start work in their early 20s and be pretty much guaranteed to work at the same company for 50 years with steadily increasing wages. Many young people now work at the same companies but as contractors at a much lower salary and without job security. They never have enough money or stability to start a family.
that's not the reason. Here in Austria, we have both good salaries AND job security yet we still aren't having kids, either. It's about women joining the workforce amd not mentally being willing to sit on two chairs at the same time. (I'm a career woman.) It is expected that after 1yr of age of my child, I return to the workforce like a robot and leave the child....where exactly? Children are a nuisance to the corporate world. And my career will never recover.
@@NoctLightCloud I think you missed the point. MEN had enough salary and job security to support a family to a reasonable degree and that freed the women to have several children and be there to raise them. Now a Japanese young couple barely has enough to support themselves on two salaries so supporting 3 or 4 family members on one unreliable salary is out of the question.
@@NoctLightCloud There you go, my dudes. The real issue is not economic, but, rather, cultural.
As long as women prioritise career, freedom and "girl bossing" over children and family, the Western civilisation will continue declining.
Turd Flinging Monkey has an idea on how to solve this issues. I would suggest to check him out.
As always, the problem is boomers, be it Asia or America. Life expectancy was a mistake.
Exactly! used to live and work in rural Japan. taxes depends on previous year's income, fine if you're on the escalator of lifetime employment, not so great if you've been told "you can keep your job, but we're only going to pay you half as much" , in hindsight, losing my permanent residence status due to the pandemic was a blessing; yes I lost the "privilege" of being able to work here, but Japan lost the privilege of being able to tax me. I'm on a tourist visa now, enjoying cheap yen.
Life is not only about working...
True, but the Japanese govt won't be able to pay pensions if it doesn't have people working & paying taxes to cover the pensions' costs.
@@LamLawIndy Working is the key, taxes isn't. Taxes is what makes people work, and the work is what is desired. The government can create currency, but they can't create nurses or farmers. You support pensioners by having enough nurses and the like to give them the care, and farmers to provide the food. Running out of workers means you run out of supply of goods and services. And when you run out, the nation becomes poor. The currency is just an accounting tool.
That is why they are now giving out so much currency for children to be born; because they realised the child is more valuable than a million dollars.
Who said that 😂
You got That right. I haven't worked for, actually never
@@VallenChaosValiantlol governments cant create currency when their population and productivity is collapsing...
In addition to promoting people living in villages, the government should provide tax breaks to businesses that allow employees to work remotely. That way, people can live in underpopulated villages and work from home!
Living in ghost towns with limited facilities?And those that can't work remotely, should they get extra vehicle and travelling expenses?
I've been thinking the same thing.
Not ghost towns, if there are enough people there, those facilities will be created, because there will be a need for them.
@@SystemBD
They won't. 8 million abandoned homes in Japan. No one wants them because no one wants to live in the sticks. Schools closed down and/or turned into care homes for the elderly.
You're talking about a subject you have scant knowledge about.
we can't all be software engineers, somebody has to harvest the cabbages or clean the lavatories at the train station; Japan doesn't have negative income tax for the working poor, there is no rebate in February as in America, no GST rebate as in Canada, instead you get a deluge of demands for payment from City Hall, which is more similar to an Ottoman empire tax farm than a North America municipality.
I married a lovely Japanese woman 24 years ago. We have three children together. If the Government of Japan is listening...I did my part in trying to help with your population issues. The pleasure was all mine*)
Haha! Well done for your service.
Pleasure??? U might have an addiction. Get abortion an vote biden
You mean SES Pleasure.???
*Reads last sentence* *Deep breaths* Im an adult! Im an adult! Im an adult!
China’s population started to decrease by 800k in 2022, and a whopping 2 million in 2023, all the while China’s GDP/Capita is still only 10k+, as opposed to to Japan’s 52k. I think China is in a way deeper crisis than Japan; they got old before they got rich.
Really? Correcting for purchasing power parity those two numbers are actually pretty close.
Japan is overpopulated as is many parts of the world. It is not a crisis - it is a correction.
I feel bad for the disappearing villages. There is so much culture lost to time...
The problem is worse than simply lower fertility rates. Childbirth is also being delayed. Having children at 38 rather than at 18 means that not only is the next generation smaller, it is effectively skipping generations.
Also, generation born at 38 won't be as healthy. We do accumulate toxins in 20 years difference.
They are not alone. Italy is disappearing, China did it to themselves intentionally, and Russia is killing off all of its young men. The world is changing, all over. Same problem, different routes taken, same result.
Young men have always been ended. You don't need that many men to replenish the population.
They're all disappearing, but at what rate? Japan and S. Korea are screwed.
*Ukraine
@@DelapazTotong both Ukraine and Russia are killing their young men
This sounds scary for Japan. Such a paradox with the country’s high life expectancy.
So, I'm progressing through JLPT certs, but here in the US I can work a flat 40 hours a week in engineering and go home. If I move to Japan even at a salary match, I feel that I can expect to work 60 hours or more for no gain. I can use Japanese here to benefit my career and company. Japan is really cool with a beautiful language, a rich history and amazing sights to see, but I struggle to realize even with the mindset of adapting to Japanese culture and not bringing my own with expecations for them to change for me, the draw beyond novelty of immigrating my skilled labor with my wife.
Money alone will not help much. Make work life balance a priority so that patents spend time at home with family and basic necessities more affordable and easily accessible. People will only procreate if they have leisure time and money.
...peace of mind, don't forget that. If everything you have can be taken away at the next layoff at no fault of your own, you will never have peace of mind.
Yeah, most weekdays it seems like so many people don't do anything outside of work. How are they supposed to meet new people, date, and make a life outside of work that will lead to marriage and kids? Work is important to a degree but clearly there are more important things
But iam to jealous to allow that
@@herp_derpingsonor if the government can just steal it by jacking taxes, what is the point.
Japan's population issues seem almost similar to China's. 25 years without a child being born in a village is wild though.
Yes, it is! But Japan's population is much smaller and its population decline is happening at a much faster rate, which means its way closer to the "point of no return" than China or any other country. Beyond that, there are some underying cultural issues causing this that I didn't touch on here. Would you watch a video on that?
@@geopoint_yes we would. The hikiko mori situation has had a horrendous impact. Japan also just plain ignored it the same way they ignore mental health and physical disabilities.
I find it interesting that China had a one child law but few other countries did.
There's more adult diapers sold in Japan than kids diapers.
That's probably true in many countries, just because kids grow up and out of diapers pretty quickly while many old folks live many years needing diapers.
Man, this is sad.
You have a low birth rate and people stay old for a much longer period of time.
These videos keep getting better and better!!!! Love them! ❤
Having spent a fair amount of time in Japan, I would add that there are some problematic cultural dimensions as well. Far fewer Japanese are even getting into relationships. Even if the government gave you 80k for each baby you have, you can't make babies if you're not having sex.
Cause people are too overworked to even consider that
I lived in Japan trust me they having sex 👍
How can we force people to have aex?
SES is dirty. Should be avoided at all costs.
2:35 Being the only kid in town must be terribly lonely. Thats gotta leave you messed up as an adult.
Amazing how the Middle East where people die in every way possible but suicide is nowhere near this situation, don't you find it interesting that Iraq which suffered from war isn't suffering from population decline while the safest countries in the world are having a hard time convincing their people to carry on living?
Jordan peterson explains that.
@sadhu7191 My point is that cultures without any sort of spirituality and beliefs won't survive long even with the best quality of life, the middle east has strong faith that's why they pull through no matter how hard it is
True I've noticed this too
I'm from Somalia, the literal shithole of the world and the suicide rate is almost non existent, then you look at countries like Finland (the happiest country in the world) and they have one of the highest suicide rates in Europe
I find it interesting
@zuesadam7143 because Somalia are Muslims, don't be sad brother, have faith in Allah, our test is hard but look at Gaza they have the toughest test yet they haven't given up and they believe in Allah and they always say Alhamdulliah, we must stay strong because Allah is merciful no matter what happens to Muslims Allah will make it ok , and he will be gentle with us because he is closer to us than our veins, he is more merciful than our parents and than ourselves, even if we don't understand the hardships that we are going through we must believe that Allah knows best and that if we believe in him all the hardships we will end well.
I'm a Palestinian myself but I live in Jordan not Palestine, it's not dangerous here but we also suffer from poverty lack of basic needs and jobs are scarce, but Alhamdulliah for everything we have here, my relatives live in Palestine and their lives are much harder than we could imagine
@@leenamustafabooks1377 thank you brother, it's heartwarming to see fellow Muslims this faithful despite all the hardships we're going through,
Sometimes I get depressed thinking about the situation of the Muslim world but then I see despite all the advantages the westerns have it still isn't enough for them
Alhamdulilah for Islam because no matter how hard life gets Allah will always be merciful
And I pray for things to get better for you and for the people of Palestine that have endured so much yet so steadfast
insha'Allah the sun will shine on us again
How can they not disappear? Women can't work when they have children, and the men work all hours and are never home. What do they expect?
As someone that gave birth in Japan, it’s not enough. Funnily enough, currently I had to take a long break from work because I had to move neighborhoods, meaning I need to find another nursery. But there aren’t enough nurseries available, and it takes so much time and effort to get in one. Imagine you can only apply latest by a month before admission, and there is a 22 people waiting list 🤯
People only use bicycles and trains so if there is no nursery in the vicinity, I would have to go more than 5km by bike with a child, then go bak the other direction just to get to the train station??
So basically I’ve been waiting for months to get into a nearby school and at this rate my child cant get into school until the new school year in April. To put into perspective, I live in Osaka. There should be more nurseries available. And my company is making me write a list of reasons, coupled with documentation from the city hall on why my kid can’t get into school cuz I’m not allowed to take long breaks. I mean I’m not even getting paid so why is it a problem. Crazy thing is my job is remote workable but thy prefer me to the office.
Now I have no salary and trying to raise a kid with hardly any help from the government. All I got was around 120 USD a month but that isn’t even enough to cover buying diapers and milk a month. Rather than feeding us this meager amount of money, create more situations where women can live a healthy lifestyle juggling work and having kids. And companies should have more empathy on mothers and stop penalizing them for not being men that can leave all home issues to their wives
Developed countries around the world need to get serious about tackling this problem before it's too late. They need to offer incentives large enough to where being a stay at home mom with 5 kids is a viable career option. I know that sounds weird. But that's the only way to save us from total collapse across the globe. People go where the money is nowadays.
Money can't solve this. It's a (female) mindset thing. People have been brainwashed to be cowards, make excuses, hate themselves and their families etc.
Remembering the Australia model. This is just crazy! could a whole country seize to exist because everyone don’t wanna have kids?
I think you mean "cease to exist".
Australia has a low birth rate, too. Not much better than Japan's, and has a population of just 26 million.
Cease.
@@Pikrodafni lol well spotted. Thank you.
@@markcynic808Australia can't afford a large population, most of Australia is inhospitable desert
Good narration.
Maybe I need to move to Japan.
9M free houses are being given to people over there.
@@edheldudeis not free you have to paid a lot of things and you are forced to repair them
@@flor2637oh shit tent life it is then
So these are much concern for economy not for People... How sad 😢...
In about 100 years or so, Japan may end up like Mongolia. The capital is heavily populated but the rest of the country is mostly empty. This means many popular tourist destinations around the country would probably be abandoned and the country’s iconic bullet trains would probably go bankrupt since not many people may ride them as they’d go to cities/towns with little to no population, let alone civilization.
The global population was 1 billion in 1804. The population exploded to over 8 billion. That was extremely concerning, on which we didn’t talk.
The explosion of the population is the major reason for global warming, ocean acidification, disappearing forests, pollution of the entire earth and extinctions of numerous species.
“Collapse” is a vocabulary of fear mongers. When the population decline slowly till 2100, we can manage the transition. We have lots of technologies to manage it. And it is in our hand, to do it in a socially acceptable and human way.
The last years since pandemic made us clear, that the majority isn’t immune against deception, manipulation and brainwashing. It made us clear, that our greed, laziness and negligence is the real threat.
The USD is “collapsing” ( fear monger alarm :-) right now. And it gives us the chance to reflect on our own thoughts and improve our future.
100 percent my opinion.
Unfortunately, Japan has a very ethnocentric culture -- foreigners encounter strong discrimination. You are very much a second-class citizen as a foreigner in Japan. As for the Japanese government policies, they simply won't work. The gap between the current birth rate (about 1.2) to the replacement rate (2.1) is simply too great. Japan's policy changes are just tinkering around the edges of the problem.
They would need to reform a lot more aspects of the workforce to give people more free time to have a life outside work
Like making overtime pay mandatory if one works more than 40 hours no matter in what industry as a way to incentivize companies to stop keeping people longer at work if not absolutely necessary
If they accept immigrants it's over for Japan. Look at Europe. They got wrecked by immigrants. Hopefully Japan keeps its borders VERY closed except for maybe a few people from China and Korea. Also maybe a few from SE asia but if people from Africa come it will be very sad
I would not underestimate the capability of Japanese society, to change drastically. Japan was the only country, which could change from a medieval society directly to an industrial society and thus escaping colonization. Japan also changed drastically after 1945. I believe, they can also change their demograhic patterns. Of course, that does not happen immediately, but I think, twenty years can be a reasonable time, to achieve a change. And concerning demography, 20 years is a short period. But I think, European societies are not able to change. When Immigration from middle eastern countries will suceed to gain a majority, the most active parts of the European population will emigrate and those, which stay, will finish to reproduce, because they feel, there is no future for their children. To adopt European immigration politics would mean, to destroy everything, what made Japan successfull.
Foreigners can work in Japan but most salary is capped at $2000 per month with no increment. Foreign workers also complain of being isolated by their Jap peers so most wont work long term.
@@schurlbirkenbach1995 In the modern world we often forget that Europeans regarded each other as ennemies for most of history. I think each European country is handling birth rate decline in a different fashion. For example, Poland and Hungary want to remain ethnically pure. Their governments are giving economic incentives for couples to have more kids. Germany has a large Turkish population that is not integrating. Moroccans and Algerians in France are having an easier time assimilating. Similar for the Caribbean black community in Britain. They have a very high rate of out-marriage, mostly with whites. As for Japan, that's an excellent point.
This was seen as the perfect society. Anyone coming into Japan is not Japanese. Xenophobia or racism. Whose fault is it and who cares?
Number of births in Japan was about 726 tsd in 2023 but numer of deaths is above 1,5 mln. So about 800 tsd less people a year. In a decade Japan will shrink its popualtion about 8 mln. Median age in Japan is 49,1 years,
And it is exponential.
No problem, Japan already has literally the final solution for aging population problem.
That's called 'ubasute-yama' or oldies dumping yards, which has been part of Japan's history for thousands of years.
The ballad of Narayama?
Ask the japanese people in usa, australia, and brazil to move back
It's not a bad idea, but then alot of them would also face issue's assimilating into the culture because of the language barrier.
@@To411u What's important is their dna is japanese. I would think their children attending japanese schools, watching japanese tv, they would pick up the culture quickly.
Why would they go back...the pressure on the working part of the population will increase every year..longer working hours..higher taxes to pay the old...you give your children a harder life than outside Japan...if i were a Japanese parent i would learn my kids to speak English fluently and give them an international outlook...
@@herbayum76 it's a human-made policy it can change at a snap of a finger
Nah, the people don't really emphasize on career either
as most people don't even have career planning/strategy
Their focus is simply scattered
No life plan
No career plan
and it's just getting worse with social media
Very interesting! Paying citizens when they have children is a fascinating concept. Has this been tried anywhere else in the world? Did it work?
Yes it has! Australia tried it and had some short-term success. I made a video about it. Watch here: ua-cam.com/video/tYSCZj6H-vY/v-deo.htmlsi=9RwKg70pXYFBqDrD
Hungary started a few type of programs like that in the last 40-50 years, with different results.
They tried it in Italy as well & it didn't work.
It hasn't worked anywhere in the world. Australia has a birth rate of less than 1.6. 2.1 is the minimum requirement.
It can increase the birthrate, but still not enough to stop the population from sinking.
There are plenty people in undeveloped countries who are able to take up the labour shortfall
Are they japanese? Do they have japanese culture?
@@fabriceaxisa
No but is Japan willing to accept them or not ?
Population collapse in Japan is not a problem. The wealth of the country will be shared wit 1/2 the population. Fine. Please do not destroy Japan by allowing foreigner's to replace Japanese.
Japan is doomed, and it has no one to blame but itself. You can't just throw money at the problem, hoping it will go away, especially when the older generation, especially the leaders, still run it the old way: 1) group first individual not at all, 2) Seniority over creativity, 3) Work over family, 3) Low wages, 4) discrimination against women and foreigners, etc. Those responsible should Seppuku to save the country.
And the money they give is laughably not enough, are they even serious at trying to fix it? It's like what, $4000 per child? That barely covers anything
How is this not a good thing for the planet and the environment in the long run?
It isn't, to say the least
@@TheSilverShadow17 Can't keep growing forever on a finite planet. Planned degrowth is the answer to avoid horrible pain, suffering and collapse. We won't do that will we? How about some evidence from you?
@@maglemose7843 The Earth is capable of supporting more than 8 billion of us but I can see why that isn't feasible in the long run. That being said it's not impossible for some countries to maintain and stabilize their population either. I mean yeah less people means more room and resources and all but at the same time there are downsides to it as well.
@@TheSilverShadow17 Neither way will be easy. That's for sure.
@@maglemose7843 Indeed
What is scary is existence that is filled with suffering and not extinction
Antinatalism FTW
@@Nickelodeon81I'm antinatalism too 😮
Suffering is a choice, pain isn't. Suffering is just pain you don't accept.
@@edheldude why don't you try to explain this to a 9 year old child dying from cancer or to the people dying from starvation in Yemen because of war or to the families living in extreme poverty from 10 generations...
@@ameygade1977 Well in Yemen's case you have to forgive your parents for being such f%ckups and not taking better care of their society and culture. Pain they have is the direct consequence of their actions and inactions.
Depending on cancer it can be the result of your lifestyle choices or in rare cases some genetic glitch. You can accept the pain of the situation in either case. Imperfection, or dukkha in Buddhism, is painful and you can free yourself from it by accepting it. I myself lived in hell for 20 years and am now pain-free.
Sorry guys it's worse then that. Humanity has 18 days before the great reset. The world population peak was in 2018 at 9.176b ppl. Now we at 1750million world wide with 10million ppl dying a day since COVID began. Every country world wide Japan, China India all has drop to extinction lvls when then then the world with most populated countries including south and central America. All you have to do is open your eyes and see there ain't as much ppl in your home town as there used to be
Their lack of work life balance might hv something to do
People choosing to go 'childfree' is a GOOD thing.
Only ones panicking over shrinking populations are the rich (billionaires)
The only ones panicking over this are either rich billionaires or people who love humanity in general and don't want it to go extinct.
Population decline is not a problem, in fact it is a good thing. The problem is managing that decline.
When they make adoption hard and almost illegal then this bound to happens . 🤡💩🤢🙄😤😮💨🤨
Not collapsing, it is scaling down to their current economic size.
The stupid part is English speaking clever people would say "all you have to do is import a bunch of people who aren't like you, don't like you, and don't want to be like you." You know, because Japan would still be Japan if the Japanese were replaced by, well, anybody.
It would not be so bad if old people had the ability to pick up and carry stuff. And to think. I'm on the cusp of old, and I am shocked at how many 55+ people just decide to stop thinking. Is that the case in Japan, too?
And Japanese government forces retirement? Did I hear that right?
It's sad, but I hope it will make my dream of living my life there more likely 😅
Good, will be the best thing for the planet and everyone…. People will start to breed again when the population drops and life becomes more pleasant. Less people, less competition, people will become more tolerable, so people will socialise more and therefore breed more. The population boom in the past 200 years was extreme, this is just a natural correction.the centuries before the boom population growth was glacial.
When I was living in Japan, Japanese women told me that they don’t want to become the caretakers of their husband’s elderly parents as is the tradition in Japan for centuries. The Western Women I know who married Japanese guys say that he was so sweet and nice when they were dating but he then turned into a totalitarian dictator once they were married. Young Japanese Women want to have fun. They want to travel, have their own interests. And it’s extremely difficult for Japanese kids who are under pressure cooker type conditions to excel academically. They are under far too much stress. Young people don’t want to have kids and put them through all of that.
A father and son both committed suicide together when I was there because the son didn’t get accepted to the university they’d chosen.
"Functioning" means different things to different people. When workers are harder to get, employee salaries and benefits increase. The thing that causes governments trouble is the fact there are fewer young people paying taxes, part of which supports "old folks". This decline has been going on for years.
Women became more liberated and got tired of sitting at home evenings while the hubby was "out with the boys".
I think many people don't realize how exponential decrease works. If the current trend continues (that is not sure) , Japan will reach the density of population of a country like Spain (that is currently in its historical high) after THREE generations (aprox a century).
Hardly a short-term catastrophe.
I often see too how many people don't realize that the demographic explosion in 20th century was very dramatic. People are calling the rebound back to middle 20th century levels a tragedy.
As far as we know, what is currently happening in developed countries is not dramatically dangerous and looks as a come back to levels of decades ago.
This repeated catastrophic message reminds me about certain catastrophic predictions about the covid. Those predictions were unbelievably inaccurate and caused damaging knee-jerk reactions.
Let's see how population numbers would evolve in a mathematical way, not giving random figures. Then, let's compare with the population of decades ago.
Yes, the population gets older on average when birth rate decreases, but it doesn't get older and older, it reaches an equilibrium. Let's not forget we now have an enormous advantage in technological advanced over mid or early 20th century. There is no problem of maintenance with the current numerical trends of population decrease, for generations.
Nobody can calculate how a country can function with 30%+ of retirees, population shrinking by 1% per year while supporting a financial system that can't eliminate debts.
Japan's debt to GDP is already astronomical, you seriously think they will be fine with their population getting older and having less and less tax revenue and labor supply?
Its not the absolute number of your population that counts but the relation between working versus not working and the prospect of that relation...
Either labor gets to be in such short supply that there's premium on wages and people can afford kids, or they die out. Immigration is just a stop gap.
Why its worse than we think? Its because we don't care.
Next time, try "How Japan's population collapse is worse than you think. "
It sounds as if Japan is moving in the right direction to help their population problems. Once people start moving to smaller towns and working online they will be together more to let nature take its course. Maybe the other countries with this problems should do the same. None of these countries be ignoring their orphan children. Maybe the seniors can be paid to adopt these childrens and give them a home in a small town in the country.
7:01 this is the best and goodnews for people want working in japan expecially young people from southeast asia like malaysia thaialdn vietnam philipines and indonesia also have even the basic japanese language that need to help and increase they ability to help japan economy for two country benefit
Foreign workers are discrimunated in Japan. Their salaries are capped and they cannot progress up the corporate ladder...many professional migrant workd will leave Jaoan after a year or two after realizing they cant progress...so many professionaps in South East Asia will prefer to go to other countries that are more progressive towards migrant. workers like Australia, Germany, Canada and even US that need young prifessoonals.
@@hijazzains ok thanks for telling me, I'm sure if I had the power I would have pissed off the Japanese even though I respect them doesn't mean I have to let them go. did they make a mistake? if you have a friend who does wrong, you don't want to let it go, do you? you have to be angry and reprimand him so that he realizes that his actions are wrong and bothering others, about discrimination, my country has faced a lot of racial discrimination, the economy and many other things, so we are used to that situation even though our country is safe but the security is not remain for a long time if the people of his country fail to solve the problem, great chaos will be triggered not because of the war but because of the attitude of the rebels, that must be avoided no matter what happens, it is not like the UN which failed to solve the problem of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict which only increases the number of Muslims who will embrace the religion that's beautiful and true because of our steadfastness, God's pepper never goes out, Japan should also understand that every nation has the same spirit as them, if they have a reason to discriminate us, please, we have the right too, our intention is to help, can't we do more, right??? you are human he is human Otherwise, if Japan is a robot, it will be difficult to understanding 😒😒 anyway i knoe japan is not like that, they just so protect what they like to follow, so genius but also stupid
@@hijazzains i hope they can solve this problem so we can living in comfort
@@afizi1213 japan is not solving their problems, their economy is in long term decline, only Toyota is in the top 50 fortune company, Japanese are increasingly lookiing inward unfortunately
@@hijazzains so what can japan do to recover slowly? hoping for external wealth? or still in debt to America
5:00 yes you can.
It was 40 years said that the number of persons will end life on earth. Now the number gets down - again wrong? Not for our planet.
It is the precursor of Urban modern society. The major key factor is house is getting more expensive and size decrease so it is too crampy to start family. This is the mismangement of most country by builidng smaller and smaller house. In affluent societies, the cost of raising children is too extorbitant.
There are still a lot of Japanese people. Swedes in the mean time only 6-7 millions and declining fast.
They need to make dramatic changes. Work culture, social culture, everything. I hope they fix it and have pure Japanese
Maybe it is not so bad to have a declining population... adapt to fewer people.
The chinese did it to themselves with that one child policy.
Good, maybe this will force people to realize there’s more to life than work
Expect for when the light dont turn on. Or there is no food. Because nobody is standing in the fields. Its dangerous
coincident or not, those countries with pornography industry, brothel industry, all having population collapse problem.
coincidence
True. No man wants the risk of having a daughter involved in those industries.
did you actually watch it? that is not what the issue is
You are wrong. It is all about education. As more educated as less Kids.
Pay one person female or male to be full time parent. A small amount extra for extra kids. Otherwise, only those already going to have kids by choice will have the benefit. Government saying I'll give you $100 to go buy a car and the rest is up to you. Not a good deal!
The “west” is importing millions of people. That’s the only reason it’s not as bad as Japan. Actual home grown people don’t have kids anymore, I think it’s a good thing.
Whats going to happen to the anime industry 😢
I'm worried too 😢
As a medical doctor I wonder why using negative words "collapse, scaring, worrying"?
It seems you did not take into account a huge factor : progress such as in medicine and life extension, transhumanism and people living centuries.
In other words ; Accept to age and treat seriously the "consequences of aging". Because old age is not necessarily a shipwreck if you can be young for centuries.
Lastly, you did not consider AI and robotics which will compensate the workforce : Agility Robotics is constructing the first massive humanoid factory to produce 10 000 robots a year. It is time to move from traditional view, don't you think?
You are right. People do not understand that such videos are made to get clicks and must be primitive to make money.
Agree with robotics being a big factor in not really needing a large population, but unnatural life extension is another problem we don't need. Bluntly put, the human race doesn't need a 200 year-old A**hole around, 80 years would be bad enough. Recycling is a good thing. Less to recycle isn't a bad thing.
Its click bait. Why not discuss the standard of living in japan and how it has been impacted?
grandmas cant have kids lol
Well dream on with this nightmare...imagine a country with no young people and millions of 100+...
How is it collapse if it will be like in the 1960s? I mean in the UK that'd be great as houses will be cheaper since the corrupt system won't allow new social housing
Who will treat your sick people and care for your aged?
Somehow someone keeps gaming the market to avoid letting property prices be influenced by supply and demand. Sure there’s plenty of land for everyone to live on but it is all owned by oligarchs who use it as uncharitably as possible. Just google for the Highlands Clearances in Scottish history, but realise it’s not unique.
@@laulaja-7186 thanks
There are multiple reasons that add to its complexity!!! There is nothing that can be done!!!
Bitcoin solves this. If it's true that money is ultimately the main reason behind it, then the sooner Japan adopts bitcoin and educates its people about it, the better off they will be. If they do it before most other countries, they can benefit massively from it. If they drag their feet and do it later, they will get fucked over.
Japan could probably do it if they became the “America “ of Asia. Open their country to up to citizens from other Asian countries especially ppl looking for a better life. They could probably invite ppl to populate the country towns.
Lmao America is shit, why will any country look at America and say "let's do that".
nope, as someone invited to populate a country village, I have since left to look for a "better life"
How long does it take that young Japanese start to realise Japan holds no future for them anymore and they start leaving Japan in large numbers...
Yes, but where will they go? They have been raised in a way that almost none of them have the language skills or the ability to adapt to a foreign lifestyle
@@ak47323good question...we are looking at a whole new social experiment coming up and thecworld will look closely how China, Japan and especially South Korea will deal with it...i guess there will come a fierce international competition for young and talented people...if i were a Japanese parent i would stimulate my children at least to speak English fluently, go abroad in summerholidays and stimulate them to have an international outlook...
They could go to Brazil or Germany where there is already a large Japanese community...
Japan is overpopulated as is many parts of the world. It is not a crisis - it is a correction.
Anyone who puts their 5 year old child in a face mask should be arrested for child abuse.
I had to stop watching after you made the contradiction of a rural town being central Japan
Richer people less kids.
Throwing money at the problem is only practical if you have money to throw around. Japan is the most highly indebted nation on earth by debt-to-GDP.
NOO!!!!! YAMETE!!!!
Speaking for myself, the two women I was most interested in, who I met almost thirty years ago, weren't people I wanted sex with. That's not to say I wouldn't have done it if the occasion arose, but the interest was not centered around either of them physically at all. I did not find them appealing physically, or unappealing, just neutral. However, the spirit or mind that occupied them interested me for a long time.
AI will take some jobs anywheres.
Good. More free time for humans to restore the planet.
Traditional software itself can replace 80% of white collar work. AI will get you even further.
China has also passed peak population and it will be entering a fast population decline soon down to 600 million this will mean it will decline as an industrial powerhouse because an aging population means fewer people will be able to do the jobs. Both China and Japan have no immigrants coming to replace the population and there is no indication that policy will change.
China will still have a substabtial workforce for mamy decades..stop scaremongering ala CIA and US propaganda 😂
This is coming to all developed countries.
😂😂Why many in UA-cam spreading fear about the decline of population? I will be very happy if it happens in my country...less crowd, easier to find job, easing the burden of nature, less energy consumption...I've been to Japan on JR Pass ,get down in wrong small station and no train schedule to stop till 4 hr later. Decided to walk around, I found it very quiet, nice and peaceful , it is amazing to be able to hear the wind blow and river streaming in the center of the village without nuisance caused by overpopulation. Yes GDP may be impacted, but quality of life is not counted by only money and amount of production.
Agree. My nephew is an urban planner. What they teach at universities now is that "good" urban planning is packing people into small apartments like sardines because it's more cost-efficient. It's pathetic.
This comment is typical...its NOT about absolute numbers....its about the number of workers and non workers at a given moment and how fast that relation alters in time..
@@herbayum76 Is there an optimum ratio?
@@tanler7953 optimum would be 2.1 child per woman 15-49 years...
@@herbayum76 I assume that's replacement level. At that rate, the relationship between workers and non-workers remains steady. The population would neither increase nor decrease. Why do you believe absolute numbers has no bearing?
Take 25% off rent or mortgage for young couples, another 25% off for every child. With three kids, parents live free of all housing costs. You do that in any country today, and the birth rate would spike. It is otherwise impossible to contemplate having children in today's world.
It has been tried and _it does not work_. This is not a money issue. It's the result of decades of propaganda to change people's (women's) values. It started changing during the s%xual revolution. My country had clear studies and statistics on this.
They're simply leading the way. It's going to happen in every country at some point.
Debunk ! the People that die are old people and that means less pensions to pay and that's good for the economy !
As for population with all the people that want to come for South East Asian and Europe , etc if japan allow them all in that will mean more that 10 million people !
Tokyo is too big. They need to decentralize. Incentivise big companies to move to other large or midsized cities. That will grow the suburbs around them with people looking for work.
Aside from that the black companies are mostly to blame for depopulation because of the unpaid overtime. Dying at your job from overwork is a reality there so much that even has it's own word in Japanese. Maybe create worker protection hotline so workers can report bad business practices anonymously. That will allow for workers to be with there families and not just when they are asleep. You can't make babies if you're too tired to do your wife or if your dead at your desk. 😅
I really wish they could get this done. I always wanted to visit Japan but at this rate it will become a new Part of China before I can save up because the country will disappear and the Chinese will move in.😢
I have an idea... A really popular TV show or anime/ franchise that somehow glamorizes having lots of children
There have been lots initiative and programs to get women into STEM courses and careers now. When I was in high school, 90% of boys in AP physics were male and 10% were female.
IMO, the most successful thing was purely accidental. It was the show The Big Bang Theory. Physics majors for both men and women skyrocketed and some articles even said "we have no idea why".
There was kid's show called Project MC2 which I thought was fcking brilliant because it associated science with girliness, fashion, spies, gadgets, adventures and dolls. Literally each science experiment toy kit came with a doll and .. well it worked lol
Good idea tbh, and it has proved to work in Latin American countries in the 2nd part of the 20th century with the telenovellas, large families etc
Same like in the rest of the world. Only africa have population rise. And Japan is in better situation than western europe. Without mass migration they keep stability of the society.
This is what happens in every places ahead that chooses profits above all. You get people living individualistic lifes working their ass off to barely pay the bills in + and + bs jobs that could be soon or already remplaced by machines. Corporations are the "new" force of power. Sure you can vote, but in masses I think people don’t realize how much power they have in selecting they purchase of good by buying, only when it comes to boycotts ppl do that bc they also want the cheapest above all, thats a vicious circle.
This phenomena has been at the root of most of modern societies major problems economically ecologically socially families/birth rate geopolitical etc ..
well said.
Don’t forget South Korea is worse!
A shrinking population can only be a good thing for an overpopulated country like Japan. They set an example for the rest of Asia and the whole world. Let the oldies look after the oldies and the problem will sort itself out over time.
If they want to increase permanent residency of immigrants, they are eventually going to have to repeal the law that prohibits non-ethnic Japanese from owning property in Japan. If you want foreigners to stay in your country, you have to give them the option of eventually OWNING their houses, not just renting them forever. Plus, let them own property and they may build more houses themselves (I know there is very little shortage in housing in the non-urban areas, due to the population drop, but a big family needs a big house, and there are fewer of those.
I own property in Japan, bought it when I realized I'd never be able to afford land in Canada. City Hall is so desperate for cash that they don't care where it comes from. Permanent residence timed out in 2020, on tourist visa now. BTW, half the houses around here are empty & abandoned.
Why do you use collapse? Japan tfr is 1.3
Click bait
Collapse because there's no future generations. If every generation is ~62% of the previous one (1.3/2.1), you have geometric collapse in time.
In the three generations you have 24% (0.62^3) of people left. In South Korea there will be only 4 great grandchildren for every 100 current people. 96% of population will not be born in comparison to current population. Basically it means North Korea will take over the peninsula.