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Super vid, Slicer! ~Definitely not enabling my own propensity to do Korean BS in training~ That being said, as someone who is rather enthusiastic about the “Korean” style and uses it liberally in my fencing, if with much less efficacy, I can give a few “less-optimal” insights that might help: - I think Kim’s style requires a LOT of manic confidence, as it relies a lot on building up speed and being able to finish your attacks without fear for the opponent’s bladework. Once your opponent stands his ground, there is nothing to bounce into, nothing to charge into and force the opponents to make mistakes and finish the attack. Much of the fencing must be fast, flashy and disconcerting - and you must have the confidence for it. It’s a lot harder when you’re against an opponent who seems to be able to parry and read at will, and when you have to adjust for that… - It requires a *lot* of physicality. This seems like an easy point until you realize how harsh bursts and sprints can really be winding to not only your continuing physical performance but your ability to think. You could *probably* do a 100m sprint with some efficacy, but thinking after that 100m sprint can be tricky, especially when it’s trying to adjust to what an opponent is doing. - I suspect Kim is going to get absolutely walloped if he opens up the distance in future events like that - calls have trended to call reprise far tighter. I’ll say, though, if you’re constantly on the attack and looking to go forwards with that manic confidence, you can see quite a few opportunities for you to take the reprise… - Being able to finish in the bounce is super important, refer back to Slicer’s and Cyrus’ videos on how the bounce is often a way to wait for an opponent’s mistake and to finish into it. Countertime is important, just as important as learning when to finish. My personal opinion is that Kim’s style is a very FUN style which relies on that emotional heatedness to bring about points, but which is inconsistent due to the mental fortitude and physicality required. I think it’s a very effective style, but for the average fencer should just be used sparingly and between points to change the momentum or keep it up in your favour. At the very least, fun, showy, passionate points like Kim’s are definitely a motivating factor and make fencing ever more fun, for both fencer and spectator.
His slide step preparation is a big part of this game. Slide step landing on front foot = distance pull. Slide step landing on his back foot = attack on preparation. The air in the middle is the decision making.
Great video! Provided a lot of good insight (and useful stuff I'll probably copy). You know, this type of video is the kind I think that would be even better with a voiceover... IMO!
You're not wrong that you should keep the distance tight, especially against a fencer who can accelerate like Kim Junho. But to be honest, keeping distance tight on defense is pretty great advice against any attacker lol
I love this! Seeing the breakdown of why a move or style works and then how to counter it is super helpful. It’s given me some ideas to improve my own fencing. I’d love to see it for other fencers/styles.
Hey Slicer, weren't we just seeing videos from a month or two ago, showing that refs are not being so generous to fencers who pull distance, then pull and pull again? Your know, reprise? But that would seem to be what Kim is doing. Granted, these examples don't show his opponents taking advantage of that. Could that be because the examples are from before refs changed their collective minds yet again? Thank you.
Yeah I think there is definitely time for a reprise on the big pulls, but I haven't found any examples of anyone trying it against him. I think it's likely that the competition adapt soon though.
He is making an active choice to pull that much distance, so if there is a risk someone reprises into it he can simply do a shorter pull -also, he is very very capable of a very quick immediate flunge that people are scared of in that same situation. Where he will be hurt will be by referees being happier to call the stop, like the hit with Motorin (which is happening), if the sabre line convention becomes more like foil and is not considered removed if the beat is followed by more preparation, and by the tendency to call any attempted stop and go in the 4m that uses a slide step as a clear attack-no.
Thanks to your amazing support I have been able to buy a new laptop which can run better editing software. I've still got a lot to learn but hopefully I should be able to start upping the production quality. Every view, comment, like, etc.. makes a difference, and I am very grateful for every person clicking on these videos. If you ever feel like giving extra support to the channel, you can drop me a "Super Thanks" by clicking on the heart icon next to "Share".
Thanks.
I love this! A video of this style on other stylistically unique fencers would be great!
Agreed! Kim Junghwan would be great, since he seems to defy so much of what we know (and definitely not because I emulate him so much)
His artistic moves actually got retweeted a lot during the Olympic Games bc it looked like a ballet movement😂 I love his exquisite movements
most handsomest sabre fencer
You have some serious metal issues
Agree
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@@aminity548 lol typo
@@aminity548 I meant mental
Super vid, Slicer! ~Definitely not enabling my own propensity to do Korean BS in training~
That being said, as someone who is rather enthusiastic about the “Korean” style and uses it liberally in my fencing, if with much less efficacy, I can give a few “less-optimal” insights that might help:
- I think Kim’s style requires a LOT of manic confidence, as it relies a lot on building up speed and being able to finish your attacks without fear for the opponent’s bladework. Once your opponent stands his ground, there is nothing to bounce into, nothing to charge into and force the opponents to make mistakes and finish the attack. Much of the fencing must be fast, flashy and disconcerting - and you must have the confidence for it. It’s a lot harder when you’re against an opponent who seems to be able to parry and read at will, and when you have to adjust for that…
- It requires a *lot* of physicality. This seems like an easy point until you realize how harsh bursts and sprints can really be winding to not only your continuing physical performance but your ability to think. You could *probably* do a 100m sprint with some efficacy, but thinking after that 100m sprint can be tricky, especially when it’s trying to adjust to what an opponent is doing.
- I suspect Kim is going to get absolutely walloped if he opens up the distance in future events like that - calls have trended to call reprise far tighter. I’ll say, though, if you’re constantly on the attack and looking to go forwards with that manic confidence, you can see quite a few opportunities for you to take the reprise…
- Being able to finish in the bounce is super important, refer back to Slicer’s and Cyrus’ videos on how the bounce is often a way to wait for an opponent’s mistake and to finish into it. Countertime is important, just as important as learning when to finish.
My personal opinion is that Kim’s style is a very FUN style which relies on that emotional heatedness to bring about points, but which is inconsistent due to the mental fortitude and physicality required. I think it’s a very effective style, but for the average fencer should just be used sparingly and between points to change the momentum or keep it up in your favour. At the very least, fun, showy, passionate points like Kim’s are definitely a motivating factor and make fencing ever more fun, for both fencer and spectator.
The video is flawless! Thanks a lot for the effort you put into it. I hope you will do some more analyses; it really helps me to improve my own style.
This helped me a lot in a competition
His slide step preparation is a big part of this game. Slide step landing on front foot = distance pull. Slide step landing on his back foot = attack on preparation. The air in the middle is the decision making.
Love it🔥
Kim Jin Ho é muito fera.
I loved this analysis, I wish there could be more like this in the future!
thx 4 making content abt this beautiful sport
A very talented and good looking fencer 🥹❤️
Bro is beautiful
Great video! Provided a lot of good insight (and useful stuff I'll probably copy).
You know, this type of video is the kind I think that would be even better with a voiceover... IMO!
Very nice. Particularly about how he makes his lunge so long. But I'm amazed there's only one of him falling over!
Actually he doesn't fall that much. That's more of a Kim Junghwan and Gu thing.
Isn't retreating so much after pulling someone short to gain distance a subject to reprise of attack?
Potentially yes, but nobody seems to have tried to reprise against him yet.
I agreee
This was awesome, thank you!
video full of details
You're not wrong that you should keep the distance tight, especially against a fencer who can accelerate like Kim Junho. But to be honest, keeping distance tight on defense is pretty great advice against any attacker lol
you should do an analysis on Oh Sanguk's attack
there is no beating Oh unless you are lucky
Fax
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Hombre Bello 🥰♥️🫶🫰
전문성없는 일반인으로서 스피드있고 잘생긴 김준호가 좋다^^
Grazie.
Thanks!
I mean he’s cool and all but right now all I see is EUNWOO’s dad 😂
This analysis is great! Would love to see more on other players
I love this! Seeing the breakdown of why a move or style works and then how to counter it is super helpful. It’s given me some ideas to improve my own fencing. I’d love to see it for other fencers/styles.
Hey Slicer, weren't we just seeing videos from a month or two ago, showing that refs are not being so generous to fencers who pull distance, then pull and pull again? Your know, reprise? But that would seem to be what Kim is doing. Granted, these examples don't show his opponents taking advantage of that. Could that be because the examples are from before refs changed their collective minds yet again? Thank you.
Yeah I think there is definitely time for a reprise on the big pulls, but I haven't found any examples of anyone trying it against him. I think it's likely that the competition adapt soon though.
He is making an active choice to pull that much distance, so if there is a risk someone reprises into it he can simply do a shorter pull -also, he is very very capable of a very quick immediate flunge that people are scared of in that same situation. Where he will be hurt will be by referees being happier to call the stop, like the hit with Motorin (which is happening), if the sabre line convention becomes more like foil and is not considered removed if the beat is followed by more preparation, and by the tendency to call any attempted stop and go in the 4m that uses a slide step as a clear attack-no.
do oh sanguk next