"Choreography"
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Join me as I go through anime like Chainsaw Man, Jujutsu Kaisen, the Fate series, Mob Psycho, Solo Leveling, and more in an attempt to unpack what choreography is.
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“Choreography is one of the most misused words in the anime community”
One minute and twenty seconds later:
“Let’s toss the dictionary definition of the word to the side and create our own meaning”
Bro lost me at 'Mushoku Tensei isn't good'
pro has personal beef with mushoku tensei💀💀
Can you blame bro
@@moonlightcrew7145Yeah, you can
@@moonlightcrew7145 You highkey can, I can't lie I'm not a d1 glazer but MT is heat nonetheless.
"He threw half a castle at Sabre"...
What else should I need to like Fate movies🗿
xes
Mana transfer scene in second heaven's feel movie 👽👽👽
damn mushoku catching strays out here
I haven't really thought that deeply about choreography, but he brought up some interesting things that made sense. Most people throw the "things just happen" allegation around not fully understanding what's actually happening. I've seen people say that about JJK before.
Saw someone on ig calling Norimitsu Suzuki's cut from MHA movie "Good choreography and Mid animation" 💀💀
"58 seconds of pure sakuga is mid" Instagram users are known for lacking functioning braincells
and they were right /j
Blasphemy
Yeah I saw that too lol
Man you are doing a great job in clearing misconceptions that almost every anime fans have.
2 comments in the same hour professional glazer
Ngl this guy sounds so egoistic and cocky he thinks he the best animation analyst sometimes and feels "too" entitled that is why he is losing views
His 70% of speech is coming from chat gpt, but the level of research he puts in vids is great
Just clarifying, I have never, in my life, used AI to write a script, not even for a single line. I've never used it to come up with points/synonyms or for proofreading. The only reason why I used the chatgpt definitions here was so that I could make the AI overlord joke.
Now if only he stop with his hating on Mushoku Tensei
Mushoku tensei is a better show when compared to all the generic isekai 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥💯💯
Mushoku Tessei is a great show when compared to most of the anime💯💯💥💥🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
You wanna know a good example of choreography that you won't like,freaking Ruijerd vs osterd from Mushoku Tensei😂
P*do anime lil bro
Many better to choose from
@@Krep336 well i chose this one to piss him off cause he doesn't like MT, we do a bit of trolling
@@BooshraSanzid lol
@@BooshraSanzid And the choreography is actually phenomenal. He just refuses to put his own dislike of the show in spite of it
2:25
Exactly, we aren't watching two buff men boxing in a ring roleplaying as different creatures, we're witnessing the Incomprehensible fight between two Strong Characters and their absurd abilities and personalities
Like how, as a normal person, you don't get how Scientists think, how a Mathematician's mind work
We are normal human beings watching the King Of Curses and The Divine General fight it out and we resort to threatening the lives of animators for making it as Chaotic and Explosive as possible😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏🙏
I love how you brought up Hakuyu Go's vision for the Sukuna vs Mahoraga fight. It's just as he describes. Chaotic, otherworldly, something you can't understand rather than feel. I believe choreography is a way to communicate a story through action.
most people refer to FIGHT choreography. And it is actually choreographed by real people up front fairly often, so the animators have plenty reference material. So the context in which it is used, applied to animation, is just fine
so when are we going to talk about mushoku tensei s2 ep22?
It appears so
Idk man, most likely he gonna say the usual stuff: it's decent, the CGI doesn't look bad, some parts feel stiff, some parts look amazing etc etc
💀@@jodanjo4295
Bro woke up to speak some facts once again.
Fog Hill of Five Elements is the best choreographed action show ever. Period.
Latom 🙏🏽
holy shit, an actual informative animation video
Ok maybe the show isnt amazing but if you havent read the light novel youre soooo missing out on Mushoku Tensei, Is classroom of the elite comparable Light novel is a complete different experience
But like.... Wind breaker tho
0:08 Seriously dude, you saying MT is a bad show is such a wrong take, especially after it's most recent episode.
I would say the episode about Norn was an even better representation of how good the show is
That depends on the criteria you are using to determine what is good about an anime. According to mine, MT is not good and doesn't work, which may be different under your perspective
@amandabanchero8709 Can you tell us what your "criteria" are?
@@zorojuro4233 Do you want the whole evaluation criteria? cuz I'm too lazy to mention every single point
Exactly, I absolutely hate how people just dismiss the whole show because of Rudeus being a pervert, While he is trying to improve as a person. The world building and other aspects of MT is absolutely amazing and I hate how people don't pay attention to that.
There's no actual valid criticism that I have read about MT as a whole. People can have their icks, but just focusing on the negatives and not acknowledging the good part is simply unfair and narrow-minded
Awesome topic you chose imo! I agree that the definition of choreography in the context of animation is murky, but I personally wouldn't categorize directly explosions and other kinds effects animation as choreography. I think choreography always have to involve the physical bodies of characters and how they are made to move relative to their environment. Of course effects and physical movements are often intertwined, but I wouldn't call both choreography. That's just my inclination, though.
Make a video on Mushoku Tensei season 2 episode 22 fight scenes
The preschool vs the man im assuming
Mushoku tensei is a masterpiece
10 seconds in and is already confusing opinion with objectivity, in an intro meant to setup the difference between opinion and objectivity
Mushoku Tensei IS a good show, it's just not for you and your ideals.
If all you've ever watched is shounen then you'd probably think it is but in the end, it's not good at all.
@@stolentoothbrush3492 I have not, so that doesn't apply to me.
@@MuffinDesu It does. It always does.
slop
@@stolentoothbrush3492 It seriously is a Good show, that is if you actually do a fair analysis instead of just saying "Rudeus is a creep therefore it's a bad show" without acknowledging the good parts like the clever world building, and I've watched many non-shounen anime, Instead of just saying a show is bad, actually try to be fair and justify why, Just coz you don't like it doesn't change the fact that it is a good show
why u using gpt for a single definition lol
Gear 5 Luffy vs Kaido was an epitome of choreography...
There are better examples tbh
I agree and I talked about recent times tbh...
and I meant about the sequence directed by Hone Hone in 1074@@ucnguyenvan47
Hell Nah
Completely agreed
go touch grass
Personally i prefer pure close quarters, i just find that you can usually do more using a whole character rather than projectiles. Thats just my taste though, i dont mind a little mixture but sometimes it can get quite boring when its mainly just projectiles in fights.
It depends on the context of the fight tho. It can’t always be close quarters
This was amazing.
I knew something was off about the Bat fight in CSM, and I really did not enjoy it in the anime.
But now when you explain it like that that makes a lot of sense
0:09 Alright buddy imma have to stop you right there
He speaks the truth
Nah, let him cook.
He's not lying.
hes wrong lmao mushoku tensei is a really well made show sprinkled with unfortunate pervert things in it. has great character development, animation, pacing and interesting plot
@@just_is44c31 but he refuses to acknowledge them,& even my comment was comically criticizing him
Sorry mate, they’re right. What you referred to as choreography is both too broad and too narrow at the same time. Choreography normally only refers to the planned movements for actors in a production. Normally it’s specifically live productions at that, like blocking in a play, or dancing in a musical or concert. It also doesn’t refer to fight scenes specifically, which is why the term “fight choreography” is separate from other forms of choreo
Animation obviously had choreography, not in the general sense as you don’t have actors or recording devices and it cannot be a live performance by its nature, but you still plan out and block a scene of movements and, as you said, the perspective of the animation mimics cameras, but of the 4 points you laid out,
The context does matter to explain why the choreo is blocked the way it is, but “all colors no choreo” is a real critique. Granted, I’m not sure why anyone would say that as if it’s a critique entirely in it of itself, as relying on color and spectacle instead movement and spectacle is perfectly fine in a vacuum, it’s not like marvel movies where they fill a void of dynamism with special effects. It’s animation, it’s all special effects.
The critique is valid when the fight scene feels to be substituting choreo with shonen anime named special attacks and bright lights out of laziness. The key thing lost is not the choreo in it of itself, but what it offers: dynamic action.
That Fates fight scene has simplistic choreo, that’s on purpose. The colorful magic does not add to the choreo, those are just separate things, although the use of magic or Ki blasts or whatever it may be is part of the action, for choreo, it’s usually making your character take a break to stand still as a bright laser happens and then the other guy also does a laser or gets sent to the dust dimension where everyone thinks they’re dead for 30 or so seconds.
Also, why are you talking about “flow” and “energy”, just say dynamic pacing, man. You’re talking about pacing.
Most of this comment was nitpicking but please next time bother to actually research the video you make instead of using chatgtp and joking about how little you bothered.
Say what u want not even your best anime compete with fog hill o the five elements they fight scenes are next level, I'm not joking, u can put mob psycho, avatar, dragon ball, Naruto, bleach combine and more it does not come close, fog hill of elements supremacy.
nah it sucks, watch Memories 1995 and you would understand how much animation in general has fallen since.
Fog Hill of Five Elements >>>>>everything shown in this video in fight choreography
Look, we know you dropped Mushoku Tensei, good for you
Move on already
I strongly agree with this comment
As soon as fans stop bugging people who don't want to watch the show... Just a few days ago, I kept being told that I need to watch it when I wasn't interested
choreography = H2H combat
most people
People forget that there are multiple kinds of choreography, most people are referring to "tight" or "grounded" choreography like early Naruto or a lot of Jjk's scenes, but there's way more nuance than ppl think.
Will you ever cover the animation from castlevania?
Then his own channel will be terminated😅😅😅
yeah, "mushoku tensei is a good show" really is the most wrong sentence ever, it is always gonna be "mushoku tensei is one of the best shows ever"
Lol nice joke.
idk y people hate it, just watch without laying much emphasis on the adult part, its like 1% of the overall show
I really don't get what's wrong with the show, the story is good, characters are great, ppl are acting like it's the first anime with this type of premise
People who don't like it are braindead
@@umangmahajan7584 "yeah just ignore the disgusting part that make the MC a disgusting human being and just focus on the likable parts"
You should watch beyblade burst especially between season 3 and 5 is probably OLMs Biggest Budget on a series that Continued for 6 years
i want him to breakdown the phi vs Aiger episode just like what he did with jjk s2, olms animators on s5 gave their best with every episode having at least 4+/10
Mushoku Tensei isnt just good, its one of the greatest anime of all fime
Nah it's just good
pedophilia is PEAK 📢📢📢
No way it's middd
another brilliant video, it feels like you put a lot more effort into this video.
That mushoku tensei comment had me dead 😂😂
Fairytail 100 year quest has the best from what I saw this season
0:51 "There are no sex" "she is in fact, not real"
Are you going to do an animation analysis on mushoku season 2 ep 22?
Mushoku Tensei IS a good show. u r right
This is very insightful and *pretentious*
What a horrible video
Excellent explanation and very informative.
Can you make a video on all of the best anime out there. I have watched a ton lot of anime like 500 or so but there are still shows with amazing animation or plot i haven't watched. Also manga or manhwa recommendations will also do please anyone
2 months late but I recommend these
Mushishi
Kekkai Sensen
K
Fog Hill of 5 elements (Chinese)
Hellsing Ultimate
Beyond the Boundary
Founder of Diabolism
(Chinese)
Takt Op Destiny
Ragna Crimson
Rage of Bahamut
Violet Evergarden
Sirius the Jaeger
Vivy
@@Animotion_1028 thanks a lot I have watched 8 anime mentioned in the list, I'll try the rest
I love mushoku tensei🤤🤤🤤
Nuh uh
We need to normalize mushoku tensei slander.
I always love it when you talk about animation. You explain it in a way that's easily understandable. Great video 😂👍
Anime Choreography peaked with Cowboy Bebop
No
I mean cowboy bebop does have some of the best animation and choreography ever and a lot of shows that came after also had peak choreography too
Yeah I have just seen that and your right
Mushoku tensei is the best anime of the century.
Thanks for exposing you are a fake anime fan
Gintama, hajime no ippo and Vinland saga.....
Tokyo revengers animation breakdown
Fog Hill of 5 elements literally breaks the boundaries of Choreography
Here before the bad takes
May someone please tell me the titles of the anime cuts shown in this video? Those sequences look bad ass.
Mushoku tensei does indeed suck
True.
Average non mushoku tensei watcher
Wrong.
@@tiyosnstowe4972 nope seen s1
Same type of people that says tbate is peak
Imma just be real, who actually calls Mahoraga ‘Makora’
6:54 another example is plane scene in jjk ep 17 build up and release were even made by different people
Can you make a video on one piece animation ??
Beautiful analysis
Probably pretentious back at it again with more facts 🔥🙏🏽
Question you wouldn’t mind if I post some of your clips on TikTok? I’ll make sure to credit you for making them
Thanks lol, and yea, go ahead.
Killer bean
Funny guy and Informative video make a good pairing
Make a video on discussing about one piece episode 1062 and 1071
sadly he won't let my man just get orgasm by mentioning "JJK"
Thank you so much for putting these thoughts into video format because I’ve been saying for years that choreography isn’t and shouldn’t be limited to just fist fights
Why cant you an animation breakdown of the last 3 Mushoku tensei episode it's better then Kaiju No 8 But no you just want to cover only big main stream hits only and milk them as much as possible . Because why not . Anyways That enough anger from me . thats all for today and Till Next Time
Bro literally thinks mushoku tensei is bad ( and then crowns solo leveling)
I don't know why, but I really want this guy to cover the gear 5 luffy fight. I know it doesn't really NEED to be covered, but I feel like it would be incredibly entertaining.
0:55 No.. This can’t be..! No.. NOOOOOOOOOOO!
videos like these are part of why you're one of my favorite anitubers.
also, now that we're on this topic, you probably realize now why your "passing comparison" on that Demon Slayer Tengen vs Gyutaro fight was improper, right? you'll at least acknowledge that in a way, right? otherwise, it would make this great video seem a tad hypocritical on your part...
What is the anime at 05:03
Here a bit of big news. Though you probably not going to cover it because of copyright but here goes.
What are your thoughts on demon slayer infinity castle getting a movie trilogy similar to fate heaven's feel.
I don't think it's fully confirmed yet, but anyway. I am extremely annoyed, I think TV shows getting film sequels is stupid. You have to wait for months to watch it, and when you finally do, you can't pause or rewind to appreciate the visuals if you go to the theaters...its a mess.
@@ProbablyPretentious true but it will be cool seeing all the big fights get the saber alter treatment especially in an environment like the infinity castle.
@@ProbablyPretentioustbf it’s meant to be a “live in the moment” experience, and a theatre is the best way to experience a visual experience, especially with insane animation
@@catlike9444if they make movie trilogy of demonn slayer then what will happen to genshin impact anime
@sugatdhaske7452 most likely be a seasonal. Similar to early demon slayer.
Mushoku Tensei is so mid.
Yes cause is a light novel 90% of light novels arent really well adapted to anime, they cut so many stuff, but the light novel is legit crazy good
Make an video on best action choreography scenes in animes
6:09 what is this anime?
Takt Op Destiny
4 min into the video than i realized that why am i even watching this video a guy explaining about the word choreography in anime when i am just going to enjoy the fights without much thought into it and this thing is not gonna come in my exam then why am i watching😂
Naruto series have some good choreography 🗿
1:12 where is this from?
200 views in 10minutes? Bro fell off
Hey, anyone know what the show and clip from 3:54 is called?
Vivy
Vivy: Fluorite Eye's Song
Bro did you watch one piece
Can you make a top 10 old school anime’s ?
Agree on the Mushoku Tensei part!
29 seconds ago is crazy
Instant dislike after the random mt stray, ik it’s not that serious, but it’s that serious
Joking btw
Me and the MT got everlasting beef at this point lmao...
@ProbablyPretentious why tho s2 is great
RE the Mahoraga vs Sukuna comment: While it's certainly true that the presentation has to live up to the context of the fight and the combatants, disregarding viewer comprehension because "it's supposed to go beyond conventional action" sounds like a pretty questionable directorial choice to me (I'm not saying the Mahoraga episode specifically suffered from this - just in general). Making the supernatural intuitively comprehensible to the audience I feel is a big part of action direction. Making something complex and unreadable for the sake of it is quite simple, the masterclass is transforming it into something simple, whilst not losing the bang.
He knows what he's referring to, you're just taking his opinion in the most direct way possible, He didn't choose to place scenes that are difficult to follow or understand because is something simple, he could simply have placed two lights clashing in the sky and call that a fight, but instead, he choose to play with every element of the environment, the supernatural powers of the fighters and their abilities and show everything at a speed and scale greater than what we are used to.
but if you repeat those scenes in slow motion or look for an analysis like that one from Mankoman, you will realize that the scenes are actually understandable and with a large amount of details that are overlooked, and that shows the enormous effort that had to be put into the episode so that it still feels chaotic and incomprehensible.
@@loiscampos4553 "but if you repeat those scenes in slow motion or look for an analysis". I never debated that, and as I said I'm not specifically referring to that very episode. My point is that having to replay something in slow motion is not a viewing experience that ought to be designed for. What matters is what the audience actually sees on screen, which won't be an artificial version to ease comprehension. There's a reason "readability" is a term at all, because there's a spectrum to differentiate good chaos from confusing chaos.
@@snow8311 But i am talking about that episode because he is the director and is his opinion and vision about that episode, you are simply extrapolating their opinion to a general aspect, even though that was never his intention from the beginning.
On the other hand, I am not telling you that you should watch the episode in slow motion, but rather than is a way to appreciate the fact that the scenes actually make sense and that they are not incomprehensible as they seem at first glance.
A valid option is to watch the episode several times(The first time I saw the episode twice in a row, and then the next day and so on for several days.), just like in other series or movies you need to watch it several times to have a better idea of what is is going on, The same applies in this case and that does not mean that is wrong, is just another form to tell/show something.
Hi
Yaya
Mmmmmmmmmyeeeeees!!!
What’s the anime you used at 1:38 please?
Jujutsu kaisen season 2
@@0spectatortho one right before it
1:36
0:08 😂
Commenting for reach
0:11 hate boner for mushoku is crazy btw did you like the episode Qkawa directed?
Tbh I wrote the joke first, and filled in the show name afterwards. Yea I did watch the episode, on Sakugabooru, really fun, although it was struggling at parts from what I remember.
"on sakugabooru" 💀
@@ColemakesMADs😂😂
3:27 well he actually DOES use martial arts skills when he needs to
despite being a berserker and mad enchantment limiting his motor skills he still uses martial arts if he needs to you see him do that in UBW and he even somewhat uses techniques in this fight as well
Infact one of his NPs is a martial art move