Mama Cow Rejects Calf, So Far
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2020
- Day Four and our Milk Cow (who lost her calf) is still rejecting an adopted calf. I feel defeated, but the sunshine on day four brings hope. Get Richard’s (free) training HERE: bit.ly/RichardsClass
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I know it sounds awful but can you not put a hobble on Flossies back legs to stop her kicking the calf away, just for a short while when the calf needs feeding. It may speed things up a bit for Flossie to accept her.
It's a possibility, but with hobbles you run the risk of them only behaving when they are in them. Plus, I've had a cow fall while wearing hobbles and it wasn't pretty.
1. Let Flossie go "too long" daily, till she's actually uncomfortable.
2. Just stick to the stanchion for now.
3. Separate Flossie and the calf nights. Or days. Or whatever works for you.
4. Right now the calf is a "pest." It's "not hers" and it's forever going for her udder. But Flossie is USED to calf-sharing, she's USED to being put in the stanchion to be milked, and she's USED to having no access to the calf at night--and vice versa. And you've trained her to stand and be milked already. Put that to use. By giving her no "pest" in the night, and fat, full, painful udder that needs to be stripped, and the familiar setting of the stanchion, the calf is safe, Flossie's not feeling badgered, and you can adapt your own half-share of the milking to conform to the calf's need. Even if Flossie is never willing to put up with the calf out of the stanchion, the calf eats, the cow's got the advantage of a milking calf, and you've got your milk.
It's worth it. Look, you're getting a good genetics heifer calf and the advantages of half-share even if you do have to put up with the stanchion ritual.
I’m so sorry they are still struggling to connect. It took our cow about 7 days to accept a adoptive calf. There is hope.
The poor baby has decided shes been kicked and head butted enough times. Poor thing. She's fought and fought...she just needs to be loved
Hi Justin. The key with Flossie may be put her in the stanchion before giving her pellets instead of in the paddock. If she kicks calf stop behavior by hobbling back legs or tying one hind leg up. The calf is less aggressive with attempts to nurse because she knows the cow is going to hurt her when she tries. It may take going out 3 to 4 times a day, put cow in stanchion, give pellets, if she kicks at calf hobble, and nurse calf to finally get cow to give in. She most likely will not try to kick with hobbles or 1 hind leg tied up and if she does most likely be one time only. Kicking cows are dangerous cows and can badly injure and or kill humans. Be careful!!
The calf is scared she got kick so many times I feel sorry for her. I am coming to bottle feed her lol
My heart is hurting for that little calf now. I thought Flossy would have adopted her by now. Darn it.
Flossie you old stubborn thang. Let that sweet baby nurse.
Maybe Flossie needs a beer?
Baby calf looks defeated ,not full of life like when you got her..
Probably should have left them in the stall together for the 3 days like your mentor told you
I know it sounds gross but I was taught to take the skin of the dead calf an wrap it around the orphan
I just want to cry for that poor calf! Breaks my heart!
I feel like you need to back off on milking her, flossy needs to get a little uncomfortable so that when the calf goes to nurse she gets some relief. Also, I wouldn't feed the alfalfa outside the stanchion; maybe feeding her outside in the paddock is teaching her that she doesn't need to go into it.
I know humans and cows are different but I couldn’t help but recall that day four is the hardest breast-feeding day when you have a newborn. No idea if that’s related but this made me think of it.
It took my jersey 2 weeks to accept a calf
Jamaica here hello I truly respect all you do on the farm your really a good husband and father
Is it possible that her tests are sore? I’m remembering how she kicked when you were washing them days ago and she’s still been sporadically uncompliant with your milking as well as the calf nursing. Just a thought... but I realize I.know nothing about it really. (My thought was also inspired by your comment that Flossie wanted the calf to come with her yet won’t let it nurse...)
I am sure Justin will never let her starve because he's keeping a eye on the baby cow , he knows a lot about cow he's has a lot of help he can away call some one that knows what to do ! Don't give up baby cow !
I keep hoping for a miracle with Flossie! I can't wait for the next video to see how it is progressing! Praying the work pays off and a corner is turned!
Dont giveup. Art and bri did the same thing with a new calf to their cow. It took some time but eventually mother cow gave in to baby cow. Persistence is key.
Always appreciating every upload, Justin. Your videos get me through tough weeks and hard times. Thank you for all you share. All my best from Mexico City.
Can we please get a story on arun? Sp? Life story interview ?
Love Richard myself too. And he's excited again after a downer year. Really happy for him.
Your honesty n work ethic is amazing. Day in day out. As i slog myself through work each day, your quote ”nunca pare trabalhando" is a big motivation.
What an ordeal- praying she accepts the calf.
I love the boys getting up early and doing chores just cause they want something
I have high hopes for Flossie to adopt the calf. Patience is the key.
So glad you’re learning from Richard Perkins. He really knows his stuff.
It’s sad 😢 poor calf hope it gets better soon ......
Aww, poor lil guy, you are certainly doing your best to keep everyone happy and healthy 😔
I suspect you gave her too much alfalfa in the pen, so she didn’t care about the lure. Better luck for tomorrow, or today I guess. 😄
😪 praying for Aunt Flossie and sweet baby❤️
Maybe you should try to lock up flossy in the stall with the adopted calf. Like the owner suggested.
Hang in there.. you are doing the best that you can and then some. That calf is a spitfire and keeps hanging in there. You did what is best looking towards the future.. this too shall pass :-)
They have to smell like each other... When I was a kid we used shaving cream on each of their noses ...
When my grandad had sheep he used to skin the dead lamb and put the skin on the adopted lamb to help the mother take up with her new baby ... but that probably wouldn't help in your case as it's a few days after ... Good luck 👍
Man flossy is being super stubborn about adopting this calf. I still have hope that she will adopt her.
Popped over to Richards channel, cheers nice to hear my accent again, cheers Justin. I do hope Flossie relents with the baby calf.
She is going to kill that calf yet. So dangerous with those horns and being such a wild cow.
I'm praying that there will be no more rejection by Aunt Flossie.. it's just going to take a little bit longer than we all anticipated. Let's all pray please because we don't Justin to take another loss.
Rejection. Life is full of it. Little cow has got to keep on going through it all. How now, brown cow.
Thanks for the great content.
Keep up the good work.
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Can you not give her the alfalfa unless she lets her nurse? Hold it in front but no access?
I enjoyed watching this video. I hope mama cow comes around to nurse the baby.
i can sense your heart is breaking for the calf. your a wonderful man justin!. i hope this chapter has a happy ending for you and the calf. all the best.
I love what you do my g..
Poor calf. 😢
Try moving Flossie to fresh grass and then see if she will let the calf nurse. She’ll be distracted by the fresh grass.
I'm amazed that she's rejecting that calf. Cats and dogs who lose their babies often will adopt orphans
It might be too late but have you been putting Flossie's milk on the calf each day? That way she smells right to mum. The more she drinks, the more she smells like mum too.
your guy you got the calf from said very specifically to put her in a STALL. leaving the mamma out on pasture with her heard and everything familiar might well be keeping her on track to reject. remove her from all familiar and put them in a stall like your guy said.
I have no clue what I am talking about. Will it help Flossy, if you talk to her/tell her to let the calf get some milk. The guy was saying that Flossy knows that you are her master. Can you not treat her as if she is a dog and take control of Flossy-pet her, stroke her, to calm her down-let her know everything is ok? I think animals understand us more than we know. I can see that Flossy acts better, when it is just you, her, and the calf - and you speak to her/try to persuade her to comply. If she still will not comply, I would tell her firmly/forcefully to allow that calf to get some milk. Take control, my man, take control.
I'm so invested on how the mama and baby is doing I keep checking right away. I hope everything goes well 🙏
Justin that was mixed wasnt it ,I was willing witb you every second ,so emotional.
I hope she eventually adopts the calf. It may just take a little longer.
Love your videos ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Justin: Two things: 1 Don't milk Aunt Flossy, allow that utter to fill and get uncomfortable.
2 Rub flossy's manure all over the calf. (This may be too late, would have been better day one)
hobbel aunt flosie so she can't kick the calf IMHO
You might ask the lab if they have destroyed the carcass of the dead calf yet. Usually its best to drape the calf in the hide of the deceased one. Maybe if they have had it on ice you could still use it. Or since she is fine with the calf nursing when she can't see it retro fitting a halter with some carriage blinders, or a blinder(blinker) hood might be am idea.
Looks like you're going to hand feed. Poor thing, at this point that baby's going to starve death.
And plus it doesn't want to have anything to do with her.
Very sad indeed.
I wouldn't give up. Just keep on it and she will eventually accept the calf. It is still to young to quit.
just started the video i hope she adopts the calf
I've read it can take up to two weeks for her to change her mind but she will eventually accept the calf
Poor Mama so confused. Your kids are Amazing 👏 you are a great Dad. And Mom is terrific too.😁❤👍 you have Amazing kids as well ❤. Can't wait to see your new baby when it's time. No hurry want you to go full term. 😉🥰👍
I'd put Flossie in the stanchion before giving her any alfalfa and I'd hobble her back legs so the calf can drink her full without being kicked. Sooner or later she'll get used to the calf. Because the more of her milk the calf drinks the more she'll smell like Flossie and the more Flossie will be inclined to accept her.
Don’t give up!!!!!
I haven't watched the videos about the calf yet but on our farm we will put pancake syrup on the calf and after the cow licks the calf clean they seem to have a better chance accepting it with its own scent on the calf.
Need to halter train the milk cows. Makes them easy to lead.
You can't force an animal to adopt especially with such a wide window that has already passed. How old is this calf 10 days old maybe 11? That's a long Gap in between. That motherly gap of adoption for a lot of animals is within the first 24 hours the most critical. But all hope is not lost. You did get a very beautiful calf out of it and on top of that I think she is going to be probably your top friendliest cow!! I would just bottle feed her it doesn't take long. I think that's something the kids would really enjoy
Plot twist: the calf was told by his mama not to drink so she can get come alfalfa.
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So challenging to watch the calf. You are teaching us all . Prayers for success.
I think I’ve heard you say that Flossie has not been handled as much, but what if you started brushing her to distract her while the calf is trying to nurse, probably in the stanchion.
Morning everyone come on mama let her do it
With being a cow and how they dont like change shes had a lot of stress and new routine. How long does it usually take for Flossie to adapt to any sort of change? Keep persevering 💗
Poor darling little calf.😪
since she keeps kicking the calf I would look into one of these kow kant kick look it up on google
what it is is a clamp you put on the cow so she can't kick it might work out good for mama excepting the calf. We use it when a cow just freshened and keeps kick the milker off for a couple of days after that they are fine
So hard to watch that hungry baby..getting walloped.
But I just know it's gonna work🙏🏼
I feel so bad. That's sad. Come on flacie
That is very good
Please bottle-feed the calf with the milk from Aunt Flossy. It must be very hungry.
I wonder what would happen if you put them back in the same stall again, I know it might cause a bit of stress but what would happen?
Im sorry if this sounds gruesome but what did you do with the calf that was lost? I was told to leave them on the back corner of the property for the wildlife, I was told to burn them, I was even told to bury them
I do believe I'm first 😁. Only watched since flossy's very sad calving. So far your rather interesting. I love your whole lifestyle 🥰.
Poor little calf
Love your videos and family!
Have you tried hobbling Miss Flossy while she's in the head gate? Keep her from kicking until she settles down and let's the calf eat?
See pinned comment.
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heart breaking watching it but its life ;-(((
You're not on Flossy's good list today. LOL
Hi from Kansas
Will you bottle feed the baby?
😢😢😢 heart breaking
I wonder if you remove the calf, will she look for her? maybe seeing the calf removed, will open the motherly side of crazy flossy, like remembering when her baby was taken away... see if there is any emotion.
Milk Flossie then bottle feed the calf?
Maybe keep the sheep away from flossie could be putting flossie off the calf
Just a thought, if after 10 days flossie Still won’t take the calf Why not try Phyllis? And just swap their roles.
Come on, Flossie. Feed the baby.
what about adding side bars to the stancion to keep her from moving and kicking.
It's possible, but eventually she's gonna need to stand for the baby out in the open.
The calf need moore milk ! This is not working. Try something else ! Or the calf will soon bee too week ?
could you hobble the cow so it dont kick the calf