Nice to see everything move forward. This means that the other brands are working on one too. I know lots of people that are unable to pull over a saw for medical reasons yet they know how to use one. Looking forward to how it will all shape up.👍
Thanks for showing us what it can do. I have the MSA 220, and it's the best 14" bar saw I've ever had. I've had 3 stihls and one Husky, and this thing rocks! No messing with gas, no mixing fuel, no fiddling around with the air filter in the wintertime. It just works. One tip though. In winter keep the batteries warm, don't leave them in a cold place, or they'll take a while to warm up when you want to use them. One tip (in case you need one). Try to avoid cutting logs laying on the ground. Soil and vegetation will mess up your chain, and there may even be some stones and grit in the soil which will really ruin your chain. If I have no alternative, then I cut 2/3 of the way through and use a log roller to turn the log over and complete the cut. Why does nobody in these videos use a log roller, jack, cant hook? They cost very little and will roll just about any log.
You have the MSA220, I have that to and also the MSA300, 161T, GTA26 and the Trimmer 135. The 220 cutting along side with MSA300 feels like a toy they not comparable the MSA300 is much powerful. But for surprise try the 161T with a 30cm bar and just with AP200 battery. Attending at her class I think is superior over the 220C.
Hey Richard, hats off to Stihl, for making it ‘look’ like a saw, and not a toy, like some of the Companies have. That is very well designed with the air filtration for the motor. It’s the future, and we can’t get away from Technology moving forward. Batteries will keep improving. They will have to. These saws have their place, but it just ain’t the same, without that two stroke thang! Take it easy 👍✌😊
You be surprise how much dust gots into the air filter, I not even got an idea how it got their but the fact is it do and I have to frequently clean the air filter just like in a gas saw.
Yestarday I went out 5 AP500S and 3 AP300S batteries on the MSA300 cutthing oak, the saw itself as always sure work great. To whom got one becarful do not over tight the bolts that hold the plastic cap over the air filter, a friend mine over tights mine and today I have to went to the Stihl dealer to fix it.
One thing I have notice many times is the AP500S battery and I have 3 of thoes but cutting continuous they got hot easy and even if you got a charger and power outlet handy the battery do not charge before it cool down.
I am impressed that I didn't see it "overtorque/ overheat." Could be some favorable editing but from you I doubt that. Looks to be the best battery saw I've ever seen(in video).
You can stuff any saw, gas stock, ported or electric. That being said I did omit a cut on the pine log where he was pushing it pretty hard. It bound up in the cut and stopped. I do agree it's the best battery saw I've seen to date. Also the best I've seen from Stihl by a long shot.
I have 3 chainsaws from Stihl, 161T, 220C and MSA 300, overheat the saw never happen to me in either one but overheat the battery yes, if you got hard and try to go to fast yes the light have go red on the battery.
@@tylerheard1279 On the MSA300 is easy for the battery to got hot on the 220 not so much except if you cutting long way kind like making boards as I have don, on the 161T I have cut continue till run out of battery so far never it happen to me.
@@richardflagg3084 I have the MSA300 and yes I am happy with saw, but for what I see in some videos the battery BLS300 on the Husky 540iXP last quite long, with be interesting to teste both side by side and see witch with cut more wood in one charge. The MSA300 with AP500S seem faster but apparently the battery on the Husky last longer.
Thanks for sharing👍🏻 tho I'm not in the market for a battery chainsaw anytime in the foreseeable future, that one looks pretty impressive! Compared to what I've seen so far.
It won't do everything a gas saw can. The saw has a place and it's impressive to see the evolution. Noise ordinances in city environments is one scenario. I'll be honest it's the best battery product I've seen from Stihl.
@@richardflagg3084 As long it got a battery charged it do absolutly everything like a gas saw and is not just any gas saw that can stand cut as fast the MSA300. The problem is the battery not last long, my feeling is kind a gas tank in a samesize gas powered one.
Last Saturdayn I went help a friend cutting firewood, the wood was a big pile of logs oak and birch. I have the MSA300 and also the 220C we were by the house and I have from the start 4 AP500S, 3 AP300S and 1 AP300 fully charged I also plug in the charge AL500 for continuos charging, by the afternoon and after almost 3 years I have to fier up my old Husky 162, just one charger AL500 can't keep, the logs were kind tick and the batteries last short time. In resume the saws yes they performd great no question about, wish the batteries with do the same.
You mention the 18" bar, well you can be confident it spin the chain as it do on a 16" bar, I have bout and have used bout depends on how tick the logs happen to be the only thing is the battery time. The 16" chains and bar I use are the original that came with saw from Stihl and the 18" are to from Stihl and the same gauge just longer, so in regard to power and performance I find no difference on the machine performance just on the battery time but still not a way way much to say so.
I'd grab one for the sake of my neighbours and for the orchard. I remember cutting with a friends corded electric chainsaw and I do have a complaint to make about them. The damn thing ranned on 220 volts and I liked the torque on it, but the chain speed wasn't there. It had a gear drive to amplify the torque from what I understood. Like any angle grinder or drill for example. I don't know if the Stihl is direct drive or gear driven but I think that it lacks the chain speed as well.
Hey Rich, You cuttin that log like a roast beast on a hobart slicer...Ha Ha Ha I Frickin love your videos man...Very informative...I am learning from you again great sir...This is cooooool. I am fixin to saw the shit out of some giant live oaks on my property and I cant wait to get some more inspiration and knowledge from you. Love you man! Ultra Cheers to you from Ike, your former walk in cooler chicken spanker turned electro mechanical tech...Has Ha ha!
Run time and charge time is about 45 minutes as stated by Stihl. I'll do a follow up when we get the saw back with some real world battery life. As for -20F It won't get that cold here in South Carolina. If it did, you wouldn't catch my happy as out there cutting. Lol!!
20 below I not know but at 2 centigrade below I have cut no problem at all if the battery is charged however it will not rechage if the battery temperature is not plus or minus between 10 and 20 centigrades. Yestarday I try charge one back that I have leaved in garage and imidiatly the red light go on in the battery, I warm up the battery a litle and no problem the red light go off and it charge back.
In regard to this saw the MSA300 I have runnig it quite heavy and in some rain also so far never have a problem except with screws that holding the plastic cap over the air filter two times already I was not able to remove the plastic cap, one screw just keep going and going around but the cap not come out, I have to go by the Stihl dealer to remove that screw. The dealer tell me for just touch the screws, seem to me a poor design.
I have been using sthil battery saws since they first came out ground and climbing saws but i am disappointed with the 300 yes it is powerful and works well but the let down is the 500s battery only lasts 6 minutes when using full power cutting larger wood like a 16 inch trunk. My saw has been back to sthil technical department and come back saying the saw runs normally? Does anyone else have this short cutting time on full power?
On a 18" to 20" diameter log oak and with 18", bar best I have got was 11 to 12 cuts. The AP500S battery isn't up to the saw, still light years away for professional use. The saw is great no doubt about, wish I can say the same about the batteries.
With just one AP500S you surly not go far I have 3 and planning to buy 1 more. If you cutting continuos like from a pile of logs you need about 4 and the charger 500 on all the time, I have try and don it, after went trough 3 AP500S I have to insert 1 AP300S in order to keep moving and not have to wait for the first AP500S to be charged. Cutting continuos they discharge fast and at same time they got hot, then they do not start charging back before they cool down.
@@richardflagg3084 Yes but keep in mind because we tend to forgot including myself, one bateery is + - one tank of gas. Is ver easy for us to blamed the battery and forgot how manny times we have to refull if we using gas. Sure I wish and hope for longer lasting batteries and without the need to add weight., maybe one day. What I think for now is overpriced is the batteires, feels kind like we buying gold.
Hi Richard I got to watching this video I had a thought to come in my head I busted out laughing will here it is are you running schaeffers 7000 in that saw LOL , you know what I would do if I picked that E saw up I would be pulling the starter cord LOL have a good evening thanks
I have one, is a joy powerful saw, however is like a Mustang GT with an empty tank of gas. With an AP500s battery a 16" blade cutting dry oak using about 80% of the balde 15 minutes and the battery is out of power. The saw is great Yes but the battery is not up to the saw.
Does your saw have an oil sensor? Whenever I look the ones with the sensor are out of stock. I am looking to buy one for chainsaw carving and i will have the oiler turned all the way... can it use all the oil before the battery runs out of juice? Thank you for your comment(s).
@@mapkorc10 I not know what saw you have and what battery you are using. I have 3 saws 161T, 220c and MSA300, batteries I have the AP200, AP300, AP300S and AP500s. My saws none have the oil sensor however in my case the one witch with be more convenient to have the oil sensor with be the 161T. the MSA 300 and the 220c very much I run out of battery before I run out of oil, but is not the case with 161T in particular if I happen to use the AP300s battery. As I said mine don´t have but I with be happy if they with have.
@@mapkorc10 Yes, this one had an oil sensor. I didn't check the oil level at the end of the day and the battery was at half. My Stihl rep. had one more demo to do that day. It did oil the bar well and that was at the factory setting on the adjustable oiler.
@@richardflagg3084 how about a couple solar panels on your back and a 12 gauge cord right to the saw. I am thinking 2 feet by 3 feet should boost power by 5 percent on a sunny day. Lol
Between the cost of the saw, battery, and charger plus a spare battery it looks almost like the cost of a MS462. And you have to bring a means to charge it. That means a portable generator, that runs on gas, or your car/truck, which also probably run on gas, or a solar charger that will take a month to charge it! Stihl shoots themselves in the foot once again.
Exactly! You'd also want to buy at least one extra AP500 S to swap in when the first battery runs out. Unless you don't mind waiting for the one battery to charge.
In a real world and for professional use the battery power saws I think they are not functional even I have 4 of those plus an edge trimmer. On the MSA300 witch I have cutting oak with an 18" bar and using about 80% of the bar 11 or 12 cuts and I am out of 1 AP500S battery, so to cut all day I with need a truck load of batteries. The machines are great and I am confident I have went beyond manufacturer recommendation never have any problem in over 3 years the battery technology is what's light years away for professional use.
Nice to see everything move forward. This means that the other brands are working on one too. I know lots of people that are unable to pull over a saw for medical reasons yet they know how to use one. Looking forward to how it will all shape up.👍
Thanks for showing us what it can do.
I have the MSA 220, and it's the best 14" bar saw I've ever had. I've had 3 stihls and one Husky, and this thing rocks! No messing with gas, no mixing fuel, no fiddling around with the air filter in the wintertime. It just works.
One tip though. In winter keep the batteries warm, don't leave them in a cold place, or they'll take a while to warm up when you want to use them.
One tip (in case you need one). Try to avoid cutting logs laying on the ground. Soil and vegetation will mess up your chain, and there may even be some stones and grit in the soil which will really ruin your chain. If I have no alternative, then I cut 2/3 of the way through and use a log roller to turn the log over and complete the cut. Why does nobody in these videos use a log roller, jack, cant hook? They cost very little and will roll just about any log.
You have the MSA220, I have that to and also the MSA300, 161T, GTA26 and the Trimmer 135. The 220 cutting along side with MSA300 feels like a toy they not comparable the MSA300 is much powerful.
But for surprise try the 161T with a 30cm bar and just with AP200 battery. Attending at her class I think is superior over the 220C.
Hey Richard, hats off to Stihl, for making it ‘look’ like a saw, and not a toy, like some of the Companies have. That is very well designed with the air filtration for the motor. It’s the future, and we can’t get away from Technology moving forward. Batteries will keep improving. They will have to. These saws have their place, but it just ain’t the same, without that two stroke thang! Take it easy 👍✌😊
You be surprise how much dust gots into the air filter, I not even got an idea how it got their but the fact is it do and I have to frequently clean the air filter just like in a gas saw.
Yestarday I went out 5 AP500S and 3 AP300S batteries on the MSA300 cutthing oak, the saw itself as always sure work great. To whom got one becarful do not over tight the bolts that hold the plastic cap over the air filter, a friend mine over tights mine and today I have to went to the Stihl dealer to fix it.
It seems pretty impressive for a battery!
looks good, looks like it has the port for the backpack battery too
Greenworks makes a 4.3hp battery saw that's $600 kitted with a battery and charger.
One thing I have notice many times is the AP500S battery and I have 3 of thoes but cutting continuous they got hot easy and even if you got a charger and power outlet handy the battery do not charge before it cool down.
I am impressed that I didn't see it "overtorque/ overheat." Could be some favorable editing but from you I doubt that. Looks to be the best battery saw I've ever seen(in video).
You can stuff any saw, gas stock, ported or electric. That being said I did omit a cut on the pine log where he was pushing it pretty hard. It bound up in the cut and stopped. I do agree it's the best battery saw I've seen to date. Also the best I've seen from Stihl by a long shot.
I have 3 chainsaws from Stihl, 161T, 220C and MSA 300, overheat the saw never happen to me in either one but overheat the battery yes, if you got hard and try to go to fast yes the light have go red on the battery.
@@sirvozelo1 That's the problem I have seen with all battery saws.... to varying degrees
@@tylerheard1279 On the MSA300 is easy for the battery to got hot on the 220 not so much except if you cutting long way kind like making boards as I have don, on the 161T I have cut continue till run out of battery so far never it happen to me.
@@richardflagg3084 I have the MSA300 and yes I am happy with saw, but for what I see in some videos the battery BLS300 on the Husky 540iXP last quite long, with be interesting to teste both side by side and see witch with cut more wood in one charge. The MSA300 with AP500S seem faster but apparently the battery on the Husky last longer.
Thanks for sharing👍🏻 tho I'm not in the market for a battery chainsaw anytime in the foreseeable future, that one looks pretty impressive! Compared to what I've seen so far.
Pretty cool to see the evolution of the battery products. Not just OPE but hand held tools in general.
Also it not only run with AP500s battery it runs with all AP batteries I have try it, however to go in full power mode yes must be the AP500s.
How you charge battery in forest???
I ran one a couple weeks ago. Impressive for a battery saw. I'll stick to gas for fun though.
It won't do everything a gas saw can. The saw has a place and it's impressive to see the evolution. Noise ordinances in city environments is one scenario. I'll be honest it's the best battery product I've seen from Stihl.
@@richardflagg3084 As long it got a battery charged it do absolutly everything like a gas saw and is not just any gas saw that can stand cut as fast the MSA300. The problem is the battery not last long, my feeling is kind a gas tank in a samesize gas powered one.
Last Saturdayn I went help a friend cutting firewood, the wood was a big pile of logs oak and birch. I have the MSA300 and also the 220C we were by the house and I have from the start 4 AP500S, 3 AP300S and 1 AP300 fully charged I also plug in the charge AL500 for continuos charging, by the afternoon and after almost 3 years I have to fier up my old Husky 162, just one charger AL500 can't keep, the logs were kind tick and the batteries last short time.
In resume the saws yes they performd great no question about, wish the batteries with do the same.
Thank you for the honest evaluation of the batteries.
You mention the 18" bar, well you can be confident it spin the chain as it do on a 16" bar, I have bout and have used bout depends on how tick the logs happen to be the only thing is the battery time. The 16" chains and bar I use are the original that came with saw from Stihl and the 18" are to from Stihl and the same gauge just longer, so in regard to power and performance I find no difference on the machine performance just on the battery time but still not a way way much to say so.
How’d ultra do in it?
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I'd grab one for the sake of my neighbours and for the orchard.
I remember cutting with a friends corded electric chainsaw and I do have a complaint to make about them.
The damn thing ranned on 220 volts and I liked the torque on it, but the chain speed wasn't there.
It had a gear drive to amplify the torque from what I understood. Like any angle grinder or drill for example.
I don't know if the Stihl is direct drive or gear driven but I think that it lacks the chain speed as well.
It is direct drive. Chain speed is actually above a traditional gas saw. If I remember correctly the chain speed is above 90 feet per second.
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Hey Rich, You cuttin that log like a roast beast on a hobart slicer...Ha Ha Ha I Frickin love your videos man...Very informative...I am learning from you again great sir...This is cooooool. I am fixin to saw the shit out of some giant live oaks on my property and I cant wait to get some more inspiration and knowledge from you. Love you man! Ultra Cheers to you from Ike, your former walk in cooler chicken spanker turned electro mechanical tech...Has Ha ha!
Be nice to know if a guy could buck up a cord of wood with one battery. Or at least close to it. Any word on if the battery will work in 20 below F?
Run time and charge time is about 45 minutes as stated by Stihl. I'll do a follow up when we get the saw back with some real world battery life.
As for -20F
It won't get that cold here in South Carolina.
If it did, you wouldn't catch my happy as out there cutting. Lol!!
@@richardflagg3084 Thanks for the reply. I haven't been happy with battery anything up here. They seem to suffer greatly in the cold.
20 below I not know but at 2 centigrade below I have cut no problem at all if the battery is charged however it will not rechage if the battery temperature is not plus or minus between 10 and 20 centigrades. Yestarday I try charge one back that I have leaved in garage and imidiatly the red light go on in the battery, I warm up the battery a litle and no problem the red light go off and it charge back.
Bet someone tries to run it on Stihl ultra
In regard to this saw the MSA300 I have runnig it quite heavy and in some rain also so far never have a problem except with screws that holding the plastic cap over the air filter two times already I was not able to remove the plastic cap, one screw just keep going and going around but the cap not come out, I have to go by the Stihl dealer to remove that screw.
The dealer tell me for just touch the screws, seem to me a poor design.
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I have been using sthil battery saws since they first came out ground and climbing saws but i am disappointed with the 300 yes it is powerful and works well but the let down is the 500s battery only lasts 6 minutes when using full power cutting larger wood like a 16 inch trunk.
My saw has been back to sthil technical department and come back saying the saw runs normally?
Does anyone else have this short cutting time on full power?
On a 18" to 20" diameter log oak and with 18", bar best I have got was 11 to 12 cuts. The AP500S battery isn't up to the saw, still light years away for professional use.
The saw is great no doubt about, wish I can say the same about the batteries.
I have 4 AP500S batteries and exactly same problem, battery technology isn't up to the saw, still light years away for professional use.
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With just one AP500S you surly not go far I have 3 and planning to buy 1 more. If you cutting continuos like from a pile of logs you need about 4 and the charger 500 on all the time, I have try and don it, after went trough 3 AP500S I have to insert 1 AP300S in order to keep moving and not have to wait for the first AP500S to be charged. Cutting continuos they discharge fast and at same time they got hot, then they do not start charging back before they cool down.
Wow!
@@richardflagg3084 Yes but keep in mind because we tend to forgot including myself, one bateery is + - one tank of gas. Is ver easy for us to blamed the battery and forgot how manny times we have to refull if we using gas.
Sure I wish and hope for longer lasting batteries and without the need to add weight., maybe one day.
What I think for now is overpriced is the batteires, feels kind like we buying gold.
Hi Richard I got to watching this video I had a thought to come in my head I busted out laughing will here it is are you running schaeffers 7000 in that saw LOL , you know what I would do if I picked that E saw up I would be pulling the starter cord LOL have a good evening thanks
I'll mix up some 32:1 next time I run it
I have one, is a joy powerful saw, however is like a Mustang GT with an empty tank of gas. With an AP500s battery a 16" blade cutting dry oak using about 80% of the balde 15 minutes and the battery is out of power. The saw is great Yes but the battery is not up to the saw.
Thanks for your first hand input!
Does your saw have an oil sensor? Whenever I look the ones with the sensor are out of stock. I am looking to buy one for chainsaw carving and i will have the oiler turned all the way... can it use all the oil before the battery runs out of juice? Thank you for your comment(s).
@@mapkorc10 I not know what saw you have and what battery you are using. I have 3 saws 161T, 220c and MSA300, batteries I have the AP200, AP300, AP300S and AP500s. My saws none have the oil sensor however in my case the one witch with be more convenient to have the oil sensor with be the 161T. the MSA 300 and the 220c very much I run out of battery before I run out of oil, but is not the case with 161T in particular if I happen to use the AP300s battery. As I said mine don´t have but I with be happy if they with have.
@@mapkorc10 Yes, this one had an oil sensor. I didn't check the oil level at the end of the day and the battery was at half. My Stihl rep. had one more demo to do that day. It did oil the bar well and that was at the factory setting on the adjustable oiler.
Already looking into porting one? Lol
I would just to a Tesla motor swap & add a flux capacitor. Just simple mods.
@@jerseyjoshua4818 lol hold my beer 🍺
I'm thinking an additional remote battery to add amps.....
@@richardflagg3084 yea buddy one in ya pocket and just put them in series 😂
@@richardflagg3084 how about a couple solar panels on your back and a 12 gauge cord right to the saw. I am thinking 2 feet by 3 feet should boost power by 5 percent on a sunny day. Lol
At least it doesn't have one of those stupid primer bulbs.
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no low-end bass.. eh.. plus no thumping & popping idle to calm me down.. hmmmmm...
I love toys, but IDK man
I understand that this is inevitably the future but, electric chainsaws have no soul! 😕
I do like a loud scary saw myself!
It has a soul, just a weak and whiney one.
Two stroke saws will be around for many years to come. No battery powered saw can pull a long bar and there won’t be one for a LONG time.
@@eurokid83 I like the smell of two stroke oil in the morning
They should put a speaker on it for when you want to hear that unnecessary reving before you start cutting 😂
Husqvarna better catch up
Looks like a great saw for California loggers! 🤣
Only if you keep ur pinky in the air Sir
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Still not as good as a MS261...
Yes 261 more better and cheaper half money
Too expensive
This machine very expensive Stihl 880 cost and not stronger!! I have Stihl 880 more stronger bigger not need charge battery!
Between the cost of the saw, battery, and charger plus a spare battery it looks almost like the cost of a MS462. And you have to bring a means to charge it. That means a portable generator, that runs on gas, or your car/truck, which also probably run on gas, or a solar charger that will take a month to charge it! Stihl shoots themselves in the foot once again.
Reminds me of jobsite generators, have an octopus of chargers plugged up for the impacts and drills.
Exactly! You'd also want to buy at least one extra AP500 S to swap in when the first battery runs out. Unless you don't mind waiting for the one battery to charge.
In a real world and for professional use the battery power saws I think they are not functional even I have 4 of those plus an edge trimmer. On the MSA300 witch I have cutting oak with an 18" bar and using about 80% of the bar 11 or 12 cuts and I am out of 1 AP500S battery, so to cut all day I with need a truck load of batteries.
The machines are great and I am confident I have went beyond manufacturer recommendation never have any problem in over 3 years the battery technology is what's light years away for professional use.
My Iphone 13 pro max better then this Stihl battery
Totalni promasaj
Yes No much wood cut and No more energy need charge Iphone
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