Thanks. For an 85 old graphic designer this has brought back fond memories. I still do not let go of my old Apple Mac and turn it on just to feel young again. Thanks again- John Nahmias at Jonahfonts.
You did an excellent subject on printer fonts. This is the first show about fonts and I enjoyed it very much. I intend on watching it several times a month. This story was made for me. I am a keyboard specialist using a Dell Inspiron microcomputer with Microsoft Office 2021 Professional in Microsoft Windows 10 Professional, a Canon color laser printer that has a scanner, and I have a Brother P-touch label printer that can print laminated label tapes. I still print on laser paper by the "old-fashioned" way. Hence my name as Captain Keyboard, computer typewriting or keyboarding is my best skill. I use Microsoft Publisher 2021 for page layouts, and Microsoft Word 2021 for working with text. When I bought my first computer in 2002, it was Cybernet, an all-in-one Windows computer. My first software were Microsoft Windows XP Professional and Microsoft Office XP Professional, and Microsoft Publisher 2002. When I worked with Publisher, I mastered the techniques the application program afforded me. The results were par excellent. I had the Cybernet computer until 2017. That was the year I switched to Dell. So far, I am discovering more techniques to apply with my documents and files, myself. The microcomputer has made desktop publishing much easier than working the old-fashioned way, and I would not want to exchange it for another way, right at home.
Thanks. Those were the days :) Someone please make an in-depth video about the very early days of QuarkXpress. There is way too little information on the internet about it that I've been able to find. Of course Quark themselves would never make such a video.
Back in the 80's I wrote and designed 8 of my 9 books by using Pagemaker and a laser printer (rented time on the Apple Store printer until I could afford my own).I sent my pages to the publisher "camera-ready" so it looked WYSIWYG exactly the way I wanted it to.Does anyone else remember when the Pagemaker screen turned black and a small graphic of the MAC with an un-smily face and "xxx" was written underneath. I never knew what it meant, but I knew it looked bad and eventually I learned that all off my work was gone, :( I was a quality management consultant and took a lot of ribbing at my workshops and programs for using Apple. Since I believed in Apple and bought stock, I guess I got the last laugh. My first job after I flunked retirement was a salesperson at an Apple store.
Muy bueno, una dosis de historia para nosotros los jóvenes. Me llama la atención como se ha mantenido la concepcion de q Mac es para diseño, ahora todo tiene un poco más de sentido
Awesome overview. We started our home-based desktop publishing/graphic design business in the summer of '93 with a Macintosh IIsi, an Apple LaserWriter NTR and an Apple OneScanner, Aldus PageMaker and FreeHand, and a copy of Photoshop 2.0 (which was still Mac-only). I've always wondered why TrueType was so disreputable. We were taught that if we were to send a file to a commercial printer we should always include PostScript fonts, but TrueType fonts were easier to manage. My wife was anxious to get a copy of Fontographer because it made it easy to convert between TrueType and PostScript font formats as well as between Mac and PC versions of these fonts and she was certain that one of the font companies would soon make sure it was taken off the market. Now OpenType fonts include either a TrueType or PostScript outline with no rhyme or reason as to which. Then Adobe bought Aldus (and later Macromedia) and killed off both PageMaker and FreeHand after selling copies of both for a while. And then CorelDraw was released for the PC and suddenly Everyone was a 'graphic designer.' My very favorite Mac commercial, "The Pitch", clearly illustrates those very early days. ua-cam.com/video/253_vKkjujY/v-deo.html
I began a typewriting service in the privacy at my home in 2002. In 1990, I took an advanced desktop publishing course at a printing school in Manhattan, New York. At that school, I had my first exposure to the Macintosh computer. I liked it better than the IBM-compatible computer. Unfortunately, I never was hired to use my newly-acquired skills, including word processing. Later on in 2002, I bought my first microcomputer running Microsoft Windows, and it did not cost as much as did the Macintosh Apple computer: a big Canon color laser printer; a Canon scanner, and a Brother P-touch label printer in 2004. I began collecting printer fonts from the Canon printer software disc, and more fonts from Print Perfect Fonts Deluxe, which contains more than 700 printer fonts. I ended up with at least 1,100 fonts in my font folder. Now I look forward to reviving my typewriting business. I am doing better than when I worked in a typical job.
I think TrueType got associated with a flood of cheap, low-quality fonts for the unwashed Windows-using horde, while the typesetting and design bureaux (the folks with proper artistic sensibilities, in other words) continued to be dominated by Apple Macs. Also there was a technical argument over the relative benefits of quadratic versus cubic Bézier curves that I won’t bore you with. Apple embarked on a next-generation 2D graphics/text-rendering engine called QuickDraw GX in the early 1990s, which failed. But one of its legacies was the extension of the original TrueType font container format to accommodate Adobe-style Type 1 fonts as well. And that in turn became the basis of the OpenType spec that has become largely standard today. As a result of which, the original Type 1 container format has been in decline for years. Even Adobe itself has finally dropped support for it.
@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Yeah, all the early cheap fonts (especially those available for download on AOL or available on those bulk “500 fonts” CDs) were primarily TrueType. A lot of the propaganda against TrueType came from print shops who had invested heavily in Adobe Type 1 font sets and from Adobe themselves. We now have quite a collection of Adobe Type 1 fonts that are useless with modern software.
Thanks. For an 85 old graphic designer this has brought back fond memories. I still do not let go of my old Apple Mac and turn it on just to feel young again. Thanks again- John Nahmias at Jonahfonts.
As someone who was "in the trenches" working on these pieces I'm impressed with such a complete & balanced overview. Thanks!
Thanks, David! That means a lot to me.
That's because you're really John Warnock! haha 🤣
@@druharper John knows who I am, but his contributions were far greater than mine.
You did an excellent subject on printer fonts. This is the first show about fonts and I enjoyed it very much. I intend on watching it several times a month. This story was made for me. I am a keyboard specialist using a Dell Inspiron microcomputer with Microsoft Office 2021 Professional in Microsoft Windows 10 Professional, a Canon color laser printer that has a scanner, and I have a Brother P-touch label printer that can print laminated label tapes. I still print on laser paper by the "old-fashioned" way. Hence my name as Captain Keyboard, computer typewriting or keyboarding is my best skill. I use Microsoft Publisher 2021 for page layouts, and Microsoft Word 2021 for working with text. When I bought my first computer in 2002, it was Cybernet, an all-in-one Windows computer. My first software were Microsoft Windows XP Professional and Microsoft Office XP Professional, and Microsoft Publisher 2002. When I worked with Publisher, I mastered the techniques the application program afforded me. The results were par excellent. I had the Cybernet computer until 2017. That was the year I switched to Dell. So far, I am discovering more techniques to apply with my documents and files, myself. The microcomputer has made desktop publishing much easier than working the old-fashioned way, and I would not want to exchange it for another way, right at home.
Thanks a lot for your video! The History is very interesting)
Awesome! Brings back memories
Very useful video to understand the font-history. Thank you very much.
Thanks. Those were the days :) Someone please make an in-depth video about the very early days of QuarkXpress. There is way too little information on the internet about it that I've been able to find. Of course Quark themselves would never make such a video.
Back in the 80's I wrote and designed 8 of my 9 books by using Pagemaker and a laser printer (rented time on the Apple Store printer until I could afford my own).I sent my pages to the publisher "camera-ready" so it looked WYSIWYG exactly the way I wanted it to.Does anyone else remember when the Pagemaker screen turned black and a small graphic of the MAC with an un-smily face and "xxx" was written underneath. I never knew what it meant, but I knew it looked bad and eventually I learned that all off my work was gone, :( I was a quality management consultant and took a lot of ribbing at my workshops and programs for using Apple. Since I believed in Apple and bought stock, I guess I got the last laugh. My first job after I flunked retirement was a salesperson at an Apple store.
Muy bueno, una dosis de historia para nosotros los jóvenes. Me llama la atención como se ha mantenido la concepcion de q Mac es para diseño, ahora todo tiene un poco más de sentido
Awesome overview.
We started our home-based desktop publishing/graphic design business in the summer of '93 with a Macintosh IIsi, an Apple LaserWriter NTR and an Apple OneScanner, Aldus PageMaker and FreeHand, and a copy of Photoshop 2.0 (which was still Mac-only).
I've always wondered why TrueType was so disreputable. We were taught that if we were to send a file to a commercial printer we should always include PostScript fonts, but TrueType fonts were easier to manage.
My wife was anxious to get a copy of Fontographer because it made it easy to convert between TrueType and PostScript font formats as well as between Mac and PC versions of these fonts and she was certain that one of the font companies would soon make sure it was taken off the market.
Now OpenType fonts include either a TrueType or PostScript outline with no rhyme or reason as to which.
Then Adobe bought Aldus (and later Macromedia) and killed off both PageMaker and FreeHand after selling copies of both for a while.
And then CorelDraw was released for the PC and suddenly Everyone was a 'graphic designer.'
My very favorite Mac commercial, "The Pitch", clearly illustrates those very early days.
ua-cam.com/video/253_vKkjujY/v-deo.html
I began a typewriting service in the privacy at my home in 2002. In 1990, I took an advanced desktop publishing course at a printing school in Manhattan, New York. At that school, I had my first exposure to the Macintosh computer. I liked it better than the IBM-compatible computer. Unfortunately, I never was hired to use my newly-acquired skills, including word processing. Later on in 2002, I bought my first microcomputer running Microsoft Windows, and it did not cost as much as did the Macintosh Apple computer: a big Canon color laser printer; a Canon scanner, and a Brother P-touch label printer in 2004. I began collecting printer fonts from the Canon printer software disc, and more fonts from Print Perfect Fonts Deluxe, which contains more than 700 printer fonts. I ended up with at least 1,100 fonts in my font folder. Now I look forward to reviving my typewriting business. I am doing better than when I worked in a typical job.
I think TrueType got associated with a flood of cheap, low-quality fonts for the unwashed Windows-using horde, while the typesetting and design bureaux (the folks with proper artistic sensibilities, in other words) continued to be dominated by Apple Macs. Also there was a technical argument over the relative benefits of quadratic versus cubic Bézier curves that I won’t bore you with.
Apple embarked on a next-generation 2D graphics/text-rendering engine called QuickDraw GX in the early 1990s, which failed. But one of its legacies was the extension of the original TrueType font container format to accommodate Adobe-style Type 1 fonts as well. And that in turn became the basis of the OpenType spec that has become largely standard today.
As a result of which, the original Type 1 container format has been in decline for years. Even Adobe itself has finally dropped support for it.
@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Yeah, all the early cheap fonts (especially those available for download on AOL or available on those bulk “500 fonts” CDs) were primarily TrueType.
A lot of the propaganda against TrueType came from print shops who had invested heavily in Adobe Type 1 font sets and from Adobe themselves.
We now have quite a collection of Adobe Type 1 fonts that are useless with modern software.
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