This was a great one! Matt did a great job of managing the conversation, given the short time allotted, working his way through the questions while also letting the conversation flow.
This is absolutely incredible. I've literally never seen an interview with an automotive CEO which didn't feel like a presser, and here we have Ineos CEO sitting down for an hour-long grilling, and IMO killing it. Lynn Calder you are a legend! Awesome podcast episode!
I have a Grenadier and absolutely love it. It is my daily driver but it also spends a fair amount of time in the Eastern Sierra, San Bernardino mountains, and Southern Utah. This is a special car. Lynn is the perfect person to be at the helm of Ineos Automotive. She is so impressive.
I have Two and a Quartermaster on Order. Sold two 200 series Land Cruisers, 2013 and 2021, both well modified winches and aux fuel tanks. I just assume throw rocks at the Land Cruisers, even the 2021 I swore I would never sell. No issues, Zero, none! Great off road and extremely comfortable, economical (comparatively speaking) and good performance on 450 mile freeway slog to Seattle 75-80 MPH over 19 MPG.
What an amazing CEO! She’s whip smart, logical and has a great sense of humor. It’s no wonder that those of us that own a Grenadier are so happy with them. You can see everyone at Ineos really believes in the product and it’s not just a number for them. I wish INEOS and Lynn all the best of luck !
I really appreciate episodes like this, with guests that are we don't usually get a chance to hear from. Also happy to see that it's getting decent views!
LYNN IS AWESOME She came to Australia and was there with us at the launch of the INEOS 4x4 Club Victoria. We're now 1 year down and loving our vehicles.
She’s a Superstar loved how she came back at the “your an energy CEO” point from Matt! That was a great episode what a refreshing change from the last few months. The only facepalm was when Matt had to clarify “I’m a cat guy” 🤦♂️
Jim Radcliffe must be a great boss. Because to have a CEO to communicate so relaxed and open in a podcast is refreshing. And she gives a great representation of an ex energy company CEO. Because I image people in American think of Dick Channey or Jeff skilling. Scots make great leaders we always punch well above our weight. Scotlands biggest export is not whiskey as many people think. It’s brains 🧠
I have now driven 30,000 miles in my April 2023 Grenadier; it's been a fabulous replacement for 1989/1991 LR Defenders. My only complaint is the lack of the official workshop manual, which was promised from the start but 15 months later there is no clue how it might be delivered. The early publicity suggested something close to an "open source" solution, but that does not seem to have survived the IP lawyers. dealer interests and self importance by minor players. I'm keeping my powder dry, but a trip to consumer law is not out of the question.
@@vvevvevvvv for the engine, sure, but what BMW service manual is going to cover the other 95% of the vehicle that wasn't designed or sourced from them?
00:00 - intro 00:56 - “We have fans?” - the TST fanbase cold open and how Lynn Calder’s day has been going 02:25 - INEOS is an interesting car company and where did it come from? 14:04 - how did Lynn get to CEO of INEOS? And what’s the hardest part (besides supply chain)? 22:16 - why BMW engines? 24:08 - what’s INEOS’ biggest sales market? How many sales would Lynn be happy making? 31:08 - is customization/personalization something that INEOS customers are asking for? Is the analog nature of the interior a requirement from being able to use the switchgear with gloves? 37:58 - is there anything about buying engines from BMW that limits/constrains you in some way? Patreon questions: 40:22 - do you think the typical INEOS customer uses it as a daily driver? And as the Grenadier iterates over time would you want to make it more luxurious or more conventional to meet that demand? 43:33 - great work on making the Grenadier such a low-key “if you know you know” vehicle; how hard was that to keep it low-key and not go over the top with badges and logos? Was there a temptation to put logos all over it? 44:28 - any plans for a two-door? 46:55 - what is the flaw in EVs that INEOS seeks to correct and what makes your approach different from other OEMs? 52:50 - does INEOS hope the Grenadier will gain the same following as Land Rover has where in 30+ years people will be restoring/restomodding it to cope with whatever that modern world is? 54:37 - plans to make an AMG/M competitor performance model? 55:30 - besides the US, what are your next two biggest markets? 56:15 - (something about US availability of the Quartermaster) 56:52 - while in town, what LA things will Lynn do? 58:38 - outro
Ineos. Keep going - just keep going. Thrilled about the SW update but just do it when you do it. I’ve loved mine - if you decide to reboot the Fusilier launch (build in US???), I will also buy one of those. Thanks for the ride, guys - so glad you had the guts to do this and I’m having a blast.
In April 2020 the new Land Rover defender was introduced to the public in the James Bond Movie "No Time to Die" which showed off the Extreme Abilities of the Defender 110 model , therefore Mrs Calder should consider "Donating a number of Ineos Grenadier Quartermasters to a Action Film Production Company " that would show off the Extreme capability of the Grenadier to a Wider Worldwide Audience
I've had first hand experience with two Grenadiers - both very sudden and unexpected experiences - but they are extremely interesting vehicles, and a brand I'm looking more into. Here's to a good show!
I drive my trail master daily and it is almost at 70K elm. did some off-roading but we also used it on a business camping trip with our dogs and rooftop tent. It is a great drive
I love the Ineos and would love to get one. I was looking last year before they started coming into the US and ended up getting a Defender 90. If I knew they were only a few months out from when I bought I would've waited. Maybe in a couple years before my warranty is up I'll trade the Defender in on one. Would love to meet Lynn also.
I like these vehicles, went to the promotion tour here in Australia, the car park was full of LR3/4 types.. I will look at these when ready for a change, but so far old LR3 is still a great ride.
Trust me it is not wider it is tiny inside if you 6ft or bigger you will struggle the U.K. spec has an intrusion from the exhaust pipe and it makes sitting comfortably very difficult it truly is like the Defender in that respect
I’ve owned both and the grenadier is definitely bigger both inside and outside compared to a G wagon . Raised foot rest is no problem , you forget all about after a week or so !
It's a pleasure listening to Lynn Calder, makes me want to submit my CV to work for Ineos. Policymakers in the EU should pay more attention to people in the industry when making decisions to ban ICE engines. It infuriates me when I hear people with no experience or industry knowledge making decisions which will have a huge impact on people's lives.
I really like listening to clever business people... even as a over 60 old fart I am always learning a thing or two from people like Lynn on how to run your life in this world. Even if it's just keeping a level head people like Lynn make the world go round.
omg omg i just commented in the Houston Car Spotting group the other day on an Ineos spot that i really really wanna see an Ineos all suped up in the “Texas” way with an 8 inch lift and 37s😂 And I had nooooo idea those Iceland ones even already existed mannnn that is AWESOME!
Put a GM V8 under the hood and an optional manual transmission, reprogram the locker actuation and this thing would be a wet dream. Or at least replace that bimmer looking shifter with a chunky gear shift to match its vibe. I like seeing these things on the road.
I really like the vehicle, it just blows my mind that all those clever people working on it did not realize that the back passenger door pockets are obstructed by the seats when the doors are closed and that it is not useable at all then
This was incredibly interesting. Have to watch again to see if they bought Recaro or went elsewhere. From my perspective the marketable point of different is the complete lack of clutter in the interior. Drive a Gladiator at 60mps on the highway and find and activate aux switch number 3 with going off the road and killing yourself. I have a quartermaster configured at $112,000 which I’ll never be able to buy but it’s fun to watch the brand go forward.
my dad has a 2021 f150 with the whole huge command screen in the middle and while it IS awesome and has a TON of cool features it ALSO has some very annoying ones that disallow control whilst driving. Whereas in previous models you just flip a switch. That is my MOST major point of anger with all the touchscreens in the middle consoles these days! Levers and buttons levers and buttons!!
Ineos.....please stay away from any electrification or EV platform for at least 5 years, it will cause financial hardship you will not recover from. Ineos.....please offer the Grenadier in the USA with a quality turbo diesel as you will literally triple your sales.
Have you been bc asleep for the last 13 months ,EVs are dead in the water , synthetic fuel / E fuels /hydrogen will keep ICE going. If you own an ev you own an iPhone and you know what happens with them over the years !
Really cool interview. The only thing I will say, at least in my case which she got wrong is the take on not being a daily driver for most buyers. I daily drive my Fieldmaster and it’s on Eibach 2.5” lift with 34’s. Don’t millions of people daily drive Wranglers in the US and even put Rubber Duckies on their dashboard? I think the Grenadier is better in every way but same idea…am I missing something?
The old saying of if you want to go offroad somewhere, a Landrover will is cool...if you you want to make it back, you get a Landcruiser. There needs to be a diesel. I've seen a couple in Tasmania. But it will not sell in Australia with BMW petrol engine with that engine...
I've seen a bunch of Grenadiers in the UAE and that's saying something, considering you could just buy a LC300 like everyone else for about the same price (and those really hold their value).
If only INEOS can sort out their customer service. As an owner of an '89 110 swapped 300tdi, and '22 110, I was most excited. So excited I was one of the first reservation holders. Then they updated their system, asked everyone that had reserved in the past two years to re-enter the their info for the new system. There was no mention of the queue being dropped and everyone losing their spot to the new order of reservations placed. I didn't rush it, and got screwed. Reached out to support and they told me I was a liar haha! Cancelled then and there. Forums shared my sentiment. New people were happy though! They have a ways to go but I remain hopeful. I love both of my rigs but a 10 year old g wagen remains the better option than the INEOS atm.
Have you ever replaced any glass in ya G wagon . You’ll be upset to find rust everywhere , even the firewall inside ! Those 1970s push on rubber seals just don’t work in the modern world . Go test a Ineos for 48 hours and then tell me you prefer a 2014 rust pit G wagon , don’t get me started on G wagon suspension and steering . Grens light years ahead although very similar technology . Magna just made it 21st century
INEOS are discovering why LR went upmarket with the Defender, the market for an old school 4x4 is incredible small. In the UK farmers have long since moved to double cab pickups, the Army still use the Defender and will replace them with something more bespoke. Why spend 70k on an Ineos when there are 10s of thousands of the real deal for significantly less money🤷♂️ You can buy a Grenadier with a huge discount because it’s the only way they can sell them. 5 years tops and Jim will have got bored and pulled the plug. They promised cheap and built in the UK, they delivered neither.
Land Rover sold over 114,000 new Defenders world wide, just in 2023, which is close to being their best selling model in a year ever, only the Discovery Sport in 2017 managed more. They've currently sold over 350k new Defenders in total. Ineos have built around 20,000 Grenadiers and UK sales are really, really small, sales for 2024 up until Sept were just 400. So I'm not sure there's a BIG market for the old Defender or the Grenadier. I guess the question for Ineos is will the size of that niche be big enough to survive?
Finally a Defender with lockers just make them standard, a second hand one may be used at a farm. And the portal axles another great idea. She light up about driving a V8 one, daa, make that too. Uhh I now realise why she didn't tell what engine, because it's the bmw superior the AMG V8 600hp
I test drove the Grenadier, it is impressive, the steering takes a bit of getting used to, and the turning radius is awful. The lack of sound deadening insulation and components isn't that noticeable at slower speeds, but when traveling on the highway, exceeding 50 mph, the in-cabin noise levels became exceedingly intrusive. The lack of power seats on what can be a 98K vehicle as i speced is absurd. The Defender can be rinsed down and it has power seats, so the excuse that they didn't want to short the electrical system when rinsing the vehicle down, is ridiculous on its face, as engineers should have been able to sufficient engineer protection of the wring.
On Harry's Garage video where he reviews it, the comments are full of people who say they have the old Defender and can't imagine paying $75k for a car that replicates that experience. It'll be interesting to see how it does sales wise.
I switched from a 2015 end of line defender to an IG. Its more expensive but its over engineered and will last longer. So, the cost over ownership period is not so bad.
Harry's original video was rubbish (I love his video's normally) and at the time he was a Landrover consultant. His new one on the Quartermaster is much better and he acknowledges that he made some mistakes on the original one.
@@sarahdell4042Strong money for a phenomenally, strong car. I think if Ineos were to start on this program again, they would be forced to make compromises.
My local Toyota service manager drove an H1 in Desert Storm - I let him play with my Grenadier and he practically cried. Said it was the closest thing since Desert Storm
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What a breath of fresh air for a CEO
This was a great one! Matt did a great job of managing the conversation, given the short time allotted, working his way through the questions while also letting the conversation flow.
This is absolutely incredible. I've literally never seen an interview with an automotive CEO which didn't feel like a presser, and here we have Ineos CEO sitting down for an hour-long grilling, and IMO killing it. Lynn Calder you are a legend! Awesome podcast episode!
I have a Grenadier and absolutely love it. It is my daily driver but it also spends a fair amount of time in the Eastern Sierra, San Bernardino mountains, and Southern Utah. This is a special car.
Lynn is the perfect person to be at the helm of Ineos Automotive. She is so impressive.
Any issues to report? I test drove one and was impressed.
I have Two and a Quartermaster on Order. Sold two 200 series Land Cruisers, 2013 and 2021, both well modified winches and aux fuel tanks. I just assume throw rocks at the Land Cruisers, even the 2021 I swore I would never sell. No issues, Zero, none! Great off road and extremely comfortable, economical (comparatively speaking) and good performance on 450 mile freeway slog to Seattle 75-80 MPH over 19 MPG.
What an amazing CEO! She’s whip smart, logical and has a great sense of humor.
It’s no wonder that those of us that own a Grenadier are so happy with them. You can see everyone at Ineos really believes in the product and it’s not just a number for them.
I wish INEOS and Lynn all the best of luck !
The CEO is so intelligent and receptive. Wish more of her existed.
I saw no sign of that
There was plenty in evidence unless you have an instinctive bias for some reason.
What an awesome interview and an incredible individual Lynn is. Serious respect Lynn
I really appreciate episodes like this, with guests that are we don't usually get a chance to hear from. Also happy to see that it's getting decent views!
LYNN IS AWESOME She came to Australia and was there with us at the launch of the INEOS 4x4 Club Victoria. We're now 1 year down and loving our vehicles.
Yes she is!
She’s a Superstar loved how she came back at the “your an energy CEO” point from Matt! That was a great episode what a refreshing change from the last few months. The only facepalm was when Matt had to clarify “I’m a cat guy” 🤦♂️
Jim Radcliffe must be a great boss. Because to have a CEO to communicate so relaxed and open in a podcast is refreshing. And she gives a great representation of an ex energy company CEO. Because I image people in American think of Dick Channey or Jeff skilling. Scots make great leaders we always punch well above our weight. Scotlands biggest export is not whiskey as many people think. It’s brains 🧠
Oil CEO has good PR skills. I’m sure she’d do great running a tobacco company too
INEOS' stance on modification and right to repair is pretty rad as well. They're ok with people just fixing their cars. Weird in 2024.
I'm buying one. Everyone in my area in southern CT are buying them. Really enjoyed this conversation.
I need to spend more time in southern CT!
I have now driven 30,000 miles in my April 2023 Grenadier; it's been a fabulous replacement for 1989/1991 LR Defenders. My only complaint is the lack of the official workshop manual, which was promised from the start but 15 months later there is no clue how it might be delivered. The early publicity suggested something close to an "open source" solution, but that does not seem to have survived the IP lawyers. dealer interests and self importance by minor players. I'm keeping my powder dry, but a trip to consumer law is not out of the question.
Won't BMW manual suffice?
I got mine recently
@@Fr99763lol bs
@@vvevvevvvv for the engine, sure, but what BMW service manual is going to cover the other 95% of the vehicle that wasn't designed or sourced from them?
Mate you drive a lot! Is it a daily?
Literally the first time I saw an Ineos on the road was yesterday. Looked sick. The algorithm must be reading my mind.
I see a surprising number of them around
I love the IENOS Grenadeir 🤭
the grenadier is absolutely stunning. i dont have the money for it, and have a disco 2 in perfect condition, but man. thank you for that vehicle
Good interview
GT4RS is top tier credentials, love that that question was asked, thanks Zack! I always wonder that about people personally
00:00 - intro
00:56 - “We have fans?” - the TST fanbase cold open and how Lynn Calder’s day has been going
02:25 - INEOS is an interesting car company and where did it come from?
14:04 - how did Lynn get to CEO of INEOS? And what’s the hardest part (besides supply chain)?
22:16 - why BMW engines?
24:08 - what’s INEOS’ biggest sales market? How many sales would Lynn be happy making?
31:08 - is customization/personalization something that INEOS customers are asking for? Is the analog nature of the interior a requirement from being able to use the switchgear with gloves?
37:58 - is there anything about buying engines from BMW that limits/constrains you in some way?
Patreon questions:
40:22 - do you think the typical INEOS customer uses it as a daily driver? And as the Grenadier iterates over time would you want to make it more luxurious or more conventional to meet that demand?
43:33 - great work on making the Grenadier such a low-key “if you know you know” vehicle; how hard was that to keep it low-key and not go over the top with badges and logos? Was there a temptation to put logos all over it?
44:28 - any plans for a two-door?
46:55 - what is the flaw in EVs that INEOS seeks to correct and what makes your approach different from other OEMs?
52:50 - does INEOS hope the Grenadier will gain the same following as Land Rover has where in 30+ years people will be restoring/restomodding it to cope with whatever that modern world is?
54:37 - plans to make an AMG/M competitor performance model?
55:30 - besides the US, what are your next two biggest markets?
56:15 - (something about US availability of the Quartermaster)
56:52 - while in town, what LA things will Lynn do?
58:38 - outro
It’s simple…she’s a stud. Love her rationale on everything.
Awesome podcast episode, for me what Ineos is doing is just amazing. Love the looks of their off-roaders ❤❤❤.
And nice to see lady CEO 😊
I've got nearly 20k miles on mine in less than a year. I assure you I bought it to be my daily driver.
I have 31,000 kms in a year on all sorts of roads. It is my daily driver and work vehicle. Love it.
Clearly, Grenadiers are built to be driven! I'm looking into getting one of my own @@DavesIneosGrenadier
Ineos. Keep going - just keep going. Thrilled about the SW update but just do it when you do it. I’ve loved mine - if you decide to reboot the Fusilier launch (build in US???), I will also buy one of those. Thanks for the ride, guys - so glad you had the guts to do this and I’m having a blast.
Fun interview. She seems like a very cool person.
Fantastic CEO, so great to see an intelligent passionate car person in this world of cut throats and bean counters!
Love these! Seriously thinking about it….great job guys.
That smaller Ineos Fusilier with the hybrid power might be the first new car I buy if it comes to the US. I love that idea
Uk listener here 🇬🇧
Warmest greetings from Colorado USA!
In April 2020 the new Land Rover defender was introduced to the public in the James Bond Movie "No Time to Die" which showed off the Extreme Abilities of the Defender 110 model , therefore Mrs Calder should consider "Donating a number of Ineos Grenadier Quartermasters to a Action Film Production Company " that would show off the Extreme capability of the Grenadier to a Wider Worldwide Audience
I've had first hand experience with two Grenadiers - both very sudden and unexpected experiences - but they are extremely interesting vehicles, and a brand I'm looking more into. Here's to a good show!
She is terrific. Love her ADAS answer!! Will be lovely to shut that off in my Trialmaster. Absolutely love my tractor.
I drive my trail master daily and it is almost at 70K elm. did some off-roading but we also used it on a business camping trip with our dogs and rooftop tent. It is a great drive
Aloisa Ruf and Lynn Calder episodes were really the highlights of this year for me. Now we wait for Doug!
Wow what a cool CEO!! I wish I worked for INEOS it seems like a cool company, and the grenadier is so interesting
i quite enjoyed this show. Lynn comes across like a solid executive.
Great conversation! INEOS Grenadier is here!
Great episode! I was not expecting this to be so interesting.
If I wasn’t poor I would scoop a shirt those are SICK. I’m really feeling that Aston one🔥 Love from NC
I love the Ineos and would love to get one. I was looking last year before they started coming into the US and ended up getting a Defender 90. If I knew they were only a few months out from when I bought I would've waited. Maybe in a couple years before my warranty is up I'll trade the Defender in on one. Would love to meet Lynn also.
One of those cars that I actually want to know more about the owner when I see one. Really handsome car I'm happy to see around more and more often.
I like these vehicles, went to the promotion tour here in Australia, the car park was full of LR3/4 types.. I will look at these when ready for a change, but so far old LR3 is still a great ride.
In an Aussie and see the occasional INEOS around... always make me smile that company was prepared to make "an old car new".
Saw one of these for the first time. It looks a bit like a G-Wagen, but wider. The vehicle has a real presence.
Trust me it is not wider it is tiny inside if you 6ft or bigger you will struggle the U.K. spec has an intrusion from the exhaust pipe and it makes sitting comfortably very difficult it truly is like the Defender in that respect
I’ve owned both and the grenadier is definitely bigger both inside and outside compared to a G wagon .
Raised foot rest is no problem , you forget all about after a week or so !
Sadly it won’t work for me I need to rest the old leg I guess if your short it’s never gonna be a problem sadly not everyone is short
It's a pleasure listening to Lynn Calder, makes me want to submit my CV to work for Ineos. Policymakers in the EU should pay more attention to people in the industry when making decisions to ban ICE engines. It infuriates me when I hear people with no experience or industry knowledge making decisions which will have a huge impact on people's lives.
I had one of the first ones in the US. Sold it quickly because of ADAS. If this interview was done sooner, 😮I would have kept it. She is a star.
So they maintain their value?
I really like listening to clever business people... even as a over 60 old fart I am always learning a thing or two from people like Lynn on how to run your life in this world.
Even if it's just keeping a level head people like Lynn make the world go round.
She's amazing.
I just drove past an Ineos dealer in Peoria, Arizona, it was kind of surreal to see
I’ve got one in Australia, perfect car for the Aussie Outback!
Amazingly no dealer in the Southern San Francisco Bay area….crazy
Wish Ineos the best. Def appreciate their vision.
She has an analog watch and a digital watch on each hand, I love the interview
'people just want knobs for stuff' is a t-shirt and a bumper sticker👌
I didn’t care about these cars before listening to this and now kinda really want one
Car guys know what it is. Ive been following INEOS progress for years. Id have one but i'm a landcruiser guy right now.
omg omg i just commented in the Houston Car Spotting group the other day on an Ineos spot that i really really wanna see an Ineos all suped up in the “Texas” way with an 8 inch lift and 37s😂 And I had nooooo idea those Iceland ones even already existed mannnn that is AWESOME!
This was a great episode.
Put a GM V8 under the hood and an optional manual transmission, reprogram the locker actuation and this thing would be a wet dream. Or at least replace that bimmer looking shifter with a chunky gear shift to match its vibe. I like seeing these things on the road.
Great podcast. Lynn, what’s next…TVR? There’s a simple analogue car and deeply loved brand that needs rescuing too!
I agree, IENOS had the coolest booth at the LA Auto Show. Everything else was kinda boring there.
I really like the vehicle, it just blows my mind that all those clever people working on it did not realize that the back passenger door pockets are obstructed by the seats when the doors are closed and that it is not useable at all then
Currently have a Defender 110. Waiting for Ineos to fix some minor things i.e. bmw shift knob and will be picking one up.
You can easily swap it out for a old retro Toyota one or even I’m guessing any old 90s /00s ZF KNOB
Start building the grenadier here in the US so regular people can afford to buy one
Man I want my 2nd one with portals ❤
Do these things have radar cruise? I know its sorta against everything I stand for, but I'd consider one if it had it.
Any chance there will be a manual Ineos Grenadier?
maybe in a 2 door version, doors off roof off.... (still room for 5)
This was incredibly interesting. Have to watch again to see if they bought Recaro or went elsewhere. From my perspective the marketable point of different is the complete lack of clutter in the interior. Drive a Gladiator at 60mps on the highway and find and activate aux switch number 3 with going off the road and killing yourself. I have a quartermaster configured at $112,000 which I’ll never be able to buy but it’s fun to watch the brand go forward.
great episode
my dad has a 2021 f150 with the whole huge command screen in the middle and while it IS awesome and has a TON of cool features it ALSO has some very annoying ones that disallow control whilst driving. Whereas in previous models you just flip a switch. That is my MOST major point of anger with all the touchscreens in the middle consoles these days! Levers and buttons levers and buttons!!
19:20 in CAD that could be a family table
Interesting podcast.
Does INEOS offer any off-road driving experiences in the US?
Yes - dealers run them all the time. Find your closest one and ask.
All the western ones are. In Utah after 75 rigs in Moab in October they have a 300 vehicle permit for next year!
If Dario Franchitti interviewed her, I wouldn't understand a word.
Ineos.....please stay away from any electrification or EV platform for at least 5 years, it will cause financial hardship you will not recover from.
Ineos.....please offer the Grenadier in the USA with a quality turbo diesel as you will literally triple your sales.
And she is wearing a real watch
I reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeallly want one of these things. Two, even.
when is INEOS going to bring out Grenadier as a EV..when they do I am all in..
Have you been bc asleep for the last 13 months ,EVs are dead in the water , synthetic fuel / E fuels /hydrogen will keep ICE going. If you own an ev you own an iPhone and you know what happens with them over the years !
Really cool interview. The only thing I will say, at least in my case which she got wrong is the take on not being a daily driver for most buyers. I daily drive my Fieldmaster and it’s on Eibach 2.5” lift with 34’s. Don’t millions of people daily drive Wranglers in the US and even put Rubber Duckies on their dashboard? I think the Grenadier is better in every way but same idea…am I missing something?
Ouu she ah baddie 😂😂
The old saying of if you want to go offroad somewhere, a Landrover will is cool...if you you want to make it back, you get a Landcruiser.
There needs to be a diesel. I've seen a couple in Tasmania. But it will not sell in Australia with BMW petrol engine with that engine...
I've seen a bunch of Grenadiers in the UAE and that's saying something, considering you could just buy a LC300 like everyone else for about the same price (and those really hold their value).
In my country new LC250 (diesel only, btw) and the Grenadier are not that much different in price. But I've yet to see both of them on the road.
There is a dealer in my area outside Philly. Cool trucks.
Lynn - let us be able to reset the service interval reminder, without needing a trip to an Ineos dealer. This IMO is the much more egregious gap
Do you sell those gloves?
If only INEOS can sort out their customer service. As an owner of an '89 110 swapped 300tdi, and '22 110, I was most excited. So excited I was one of the first reservation holders.
Then they updated their system, asked everyone that had reserved in the past two years to re-enter the their info for the new system. There was no mention of the queue being dropped and everyone losing their spot to the new order of reservations placed. I didn't rush it, and got screwed. Reached out to support and they told me I was a liar haha! Cancelled then and there. Forums shared my sentiment. New people were happy though!
They have a ways to go but I remain hopeful. I love both of my rigs but a 10 year old g wagen remains the better option than the INEOS atm.
Have you ever replaced any glass in ya G wagon . You’ll be upset to find rust everywhere , even the firewall inside ! Those 1970s push on rubber seals just don’t work in the modern world . Go test a Ineos for 48 hours and then tell me you prefer a 2014 rust pit G wagon , don’t get me started on G wagon suspension and steering . Grens light years ahead although very similar technology . Magna just made it 21st century
@PeterFearon-g8q if your modern G is a rust pit, you've got something else going on m8. I had a 2002 and wasn't rushing there 20 years later
Only thing I can say about the Cybertruck... in a few years time there might be a glut of salvage stainless steel...!
The BMW inline six is possibly the best engine in the world - the next contender is the Mercedes-AMG V8.
My dream girlfriend/wife. Wow. Normal conversation without the political corporate responses. She's awesome!
The diesel engine version is so much better than the petrol/gas version.
INEOS are discovering why LR went upmarket with the Defender, the market for an old school 4x4 is incredible small. In the UK farmers have long since moved to double cab pickups, the Army still use the Defender and will replace them with something more bespoke. Why spend 70k on an Ineos when there are 10s of thousands of the real deal for significantly less money🤷♂️
You can buy a Grenadier with a huge discount because it’s the only way they can sell them.
5 years tops and Jim will have got bored and pulled the plug.
They promised cheap and built in the UK, they delivered neither.
Land Rover sold over 114,000 new Defenders world wide, just in 2023, which is close to being their best selling model in a year ever, only the Discovery Sport in 2017 managed more. They've currently sold over 350k new Defenders in total. Ineos have built around 20,000 Grenadiers and UK sales are really, really small, sales for 2024 up until Sept were just 400. So I'm not sure there's a BIG market for the old Defender or the Grenadier. I guess the question for Ineos is will the size of that niche be big enough to survive?
Finally a Defender with lockers just make them standard, a second hand one may be used at a farm. And the portal axles another great idea.
She light up about driving a V8 one, daa, make that too. Uhh I now realise why she didn't tell what engine, because it's the bmw superior the AMG V8 600hp
Total badass
4:38 as distinct from Jaguar, who UNmade a car driving the company into the ground 😂 4:38
I test drove the Grenadier, it is impressive, the steering takes a bit of getting used to, and the turning radius is awful. The lack of sound deadening insulation and components isn't that noticeable at slower speeds, but when traveling on the highway, exceeding 50 mph, the in-cabin noise levels became exceedingly intrusive. The lack of power seats on what can be a 98K vehicle as i speced is absurd. The Defender can be rinsed down and it has power seats, so the excuse that they didn't want to short the electrical system when rinsing the vehicle down, is ridiculous on its face, as engineers should have been able to sufficient engineer protection of the wring.
On Harry's Garage video where he reviews it, the comments are full of people who say they have the old Defender and can't imagine paying $75k for a car that replicates that experience. It'll be interesting to see how it does sales wise.
I switched from a 2015 end of line defender to an IG. Its more expensive but its over engineered and will last longer. So, the cost over ownership period is not so bad.
Harry's original video was rubbish (I love his video's normally) and at the time he was a Landrover consultant. His new one on the Quartermaster is much better and he acknowledges that he made some mistakes on the original one.
The problem is they touted under 50k and then when launched are 75+k.
I really like them, but that’s strong money.
@@sarahdell4042Strong money for a phenomenally, strong car. I think if Ineos were to start on this program again, they would be forced to make compromises.
I didn’t know the spirit of The Telegraph had inhabited a human shape
hold on, i love her
Dear Ineos: Please remake the Hummer H1 like you did the Defender. I will pay you.
My local Toyota service manager drove an H1 in Desert Storm - I let him play with my Grenadier and he practically cried. Said it was the closest thing since Desert Storm
@@ElderStatesman-pi3lc Technically there were no H1's in Desert Storm. H1's are much, MUCH different than the HMMWV's that he drove.
Very nice....but...not one word on the production hold....Recaro...alternatives, to calm the critics down a bit?
Great guedt