2021 Polestar 2: E3 - Hoist Review
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2021
- Sandy and and the Munro Live team get the Polestar 2 up on a hoist to check out the suspension and undercarriage of the vehicle.
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#polestar2 #volvo #carreview - Авто та транспорт
“Designs are hampered by those with no imagination. Thankfully most are my age and are either dead or retired.”
Thankfully we still have YOU to show us the great videos!!!
🤣 some of the old engineers where brilliant some where lazy and made rubbish 🗑💚🌎🤣
@Road 'N Turf I was thinking exactly the same thing.
Yup that comment made me chuckle.
Haha! Great line!
The advantage of old farts croaking off. Humans progress through older generations dying off.
" I got a good memory, its just short" I'm gonna steal that one.
Yeah. This one was epic. :D
stealing something that you won't remember not an easy task :D
Someone should put that on a tee shirt. :D
Thanks! I never tire of your explanation of details. You’ll never get a complaint from me about an analysis being too long.
Glad to hear it!
@@MunroLive Your analyses demonstrate the difference between complaining and critical thinking.
Same.
Same
@@MunroLive I’m happy to go through ten times more detail.
The knowledge Sandy's sharing is awsome, and for free? Fuck yeah
"I've got a good memory, it's just... What were we talking about?" Haha
That's what Mandy Sunro said.
Sometimes I'm in awe that I can watch videos like these whenever I want for free. Crazy
"dead or retired".... love it - i am currently the second class avoiding the first class... keep up the awesome videos...
and my day just got better seeing this was up.
He looks like he does not know that Volvo was also an aircraft manufacturer in the past (the surprise about welding).
Just throw Polestar 2 in the trash bin.
@@markplott4820
Why? It seems to be an above average engineered car. The money is spent on the battery and software.
Also, the less complicated a car is, the easier it is to fix.. No one wants a car that is over engineered.
@@mamadouaziza2536 - the POLESTAR 2 is an OVERWEIGHT and OVERLY Complex vehicle , built from a GAS car platform.
in Comparison TESLA has FEWER parts , fewer Fuses and Fewer ECU than POLESTAR .
TESLA is going to TOTAL Underbody casting and a Structural battery pack.
saves 900 Robots and processes.
@@markplott4820
Hmm, ok.
BMW's i3 is a lightweight car constructed with carbon fibre, plastic and uses fewer parts than a Tesla...
A grumpy granpa talking about suspension should be THE most boring thing in the world, so ... Why is it so darn fun to watch😁
Cant wait for next episode👍👍
Thank god for the blue tape!! Covered loads of ground this episode and made it much easier on Sandys excellent short memory. Well done blue tape person.
+
Sandy. I love your fatherly attitude towards your viewers.
You make me think of my late uncle. He had your attitude, had mustache like you and an honest opinion he loved to share with others no matter what it was.
Keep on making them videos, they brighten my day.
On a roll! Your information for video minute is sky rocketing! Another great video, congrats, keep them coming...
Thanks, will do!
Way over my head but I still love the review! The world needs more technically detailed information. Stuff has been dumbed down for too long.
I suspect it's a bit like the first-generation jet airliners and bombers like 707 and B-52 (especially after the Comet and B-47 accidents). The engineers decided that they didn't quite understand the forces they were dealing with so they way overbuilt everything. Right now I suspect the manufacturers are more concerned about gaining market share and maintaining a reputation in this still relatively developed market. As these companies get better understanding of the most common failure modes on electric vehicles they will commence with cost reduction in ways that they believe will not increase failure rates signifigantly. But right now it is probably too much risk for them to try to save a few dollars on each car produced.
Another lunch time spent learning and appreciating the lost art of story telling!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love these videos. Even better now with the blue tape. Please don't ever stop Sandy.
Great explanation of friction stir welding! Thank you mr. Munro!
I hope someone at the premier engineering schools around the world are making this channel a MUST SUBSCRIBE and WATCH for their students AND professors. You are never to old or to young to grow and change. These ideas and ideology Sandy spits are are gold!
Great video, Sandy! I find these videos to be so much more helpful than the fluff I watch from the influencer crowd.
You are so welcome!
Gotta love the brutal honesty of Sandy!
I'm pretty happy with my purchase. Thanks.
Fantastically built car.. Very impressive.
sandy mentioned most people making bad decisions or ones just for sake of legacy parts are his age and retired or dead. It makes me wonder how does sandy stay on the cutting edge so well when many of his peers (at least age wise) are stuck in old technology? I find it really impressive, I was actually shocked when I heard Sandys actual age! He moves around and works/speaks at a much higher level then so many others at his age, in this industry or otherwise. speaks to loving what you do I guess, sandy still has that excited energy when he sees stuff he is passionate about. inspiring for sure! Great work
I had uncle like him. The most amazing guy I ever met. Oh Lord how I loved him as a kid! He was so obsessed with his passions that he had no time left to grow old. And then he got Alzheimer’s and it was such a horrible thing to watch. But he was still himself. Even at the end his old self kept coming back. Like a miracle- the poor man was sitting there, completely absent. And then all of sudden he joined the conversation in the middle of it, said something totally on topic, had a little argument and switched off back again... I think it’s that constant being in the topic you love that keeps you so fresh. You never stop, so the age can’t keep up?
People in general don't understand how much praise for their efforts means to engineers. Praise from someone like Sandy is better than a raise or a promotion. Few people realize how hard it is to juggle resources within a budget and do a better engineering design than your predecessors. It's far harder to work with your mind than your hands and there's less evidence to prove how much went into the project. That's true of most new STEM work. When you do a great job, people look at it and think that the choices you made would have been obvious to anyone. All they care about is how pretty it looks and what they have to pay.
You know I was wondering after Sandy's (mostly) glowing inspection of the Mach-E just how many Ford engineers from that team had Munro quotes from those videos printed out and stuck up on internal message boards or if management shared the YT links to make sure they got to see them.
A brown nose LOLOL
Thanks Sandy & team
it’s so interesting seeing all the different manufacturing techniques and the technology that goes into every little part
Sandy, I don't know if you will ever see this but couple of things as a long time Volvo owner.
The riveted lower ball joint came in with S40 / V50 in 2005. It is common part with some other cars, if I recall correctly it was Ford Mondeo. But on the other car it is bolted, so in many cases if you need to change it - you need to buy the part from the "cousin".
The door handles you spoke last time. Yeah, freezing rain is a thing in Sweden and there is little to no that can be done without the handles.
Also the really small wing mirrors have kind of always been a Volvo thing but that become really pronounced again in the S40 / V50 from 2005 onwards. They are even smaller than the mirrors in this one.
Thank you so much for the knowledge and insights that you shared in the 'Under the Hood' and 'Hoisted' series, I learned a lot! And those kind of technical details are so satisfying and they are so much missing from the majority of car reviewers
Poor Saab. They got bought by GM and run into the ground. Volvo got bought by Geely and now they get to engineer the Polestar 2. Nice to see some good engineering getting implemented!
GM also almost killed Opel, glad to see they are now part of Stellantis!
Yeah, for all the China hate that the sheep are spewing all over the internet, it's actually American car brands that are the death-mark of cars. Same with Opel, run into the ground by GM then rescued by PSA at the last moment.
Yep! And Volvo was owned by Ford for a considerable time as well, and while it did not end up as badly as for Saab, the guys at Volvo weren't very happy about Ford:s management practises... Geely is a lot more hands-off, basically "We'll get you a bunch of cash, you do your thing!" - and it's working out very well.
So much effort goes into explaining all this stuff & I really appreciate it very much.
Thanks Sandy, as ever, priceless tidbits being flung around.
Thank you Sandy and Team. Another educational program 🎈
Great video as usual Sandy...love learning about the fine details in cars. Keep up the great work! Warm regards from Vancouver Canada.
New video format is great. Much more information dense. Keep them coming!
This is pure Sandy, praise to everybody who deserves it and a real understanding of the actual issues that can challenge this sector. Seeing the young engineers holding the torch with taking this technoology forwards and receiving the praise where it's due is excellent. Perfect in every way - well done team Munro.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, very interesting and a lot of information in a short time.
My pleasure!
Another great one from Sandy ! Thank you Munro & Associates.
Our pleasure!
Absolutely fascinating video. Thank you!
Our pleasure!
Another fascinating and informative video.
Impressed with Polestar.
I love videos like this. Many thanks.
Glad you like them!
Nothing wrong with the duration of this video. Keep them coming Sandy, your videos are amazing!
Sandy gives another wonderful educational video, if all could teach or inform with his clarity there would be alot more stimulated people learning on the internet!!
Another great, informative, and entertaining video! And what not…
i love these videos showing how these cars are made and if they were made sloppy. Thank You
Glad you like them!
Great informative content! AWESOME
I love explaining things about cars to people, just a it is just very hard to find someone that wants to listen. Sandy found the right place to explain to people that want to hear.
Sandy nails it again! What a man!
NVH, NVH, NVH - (Noise, Vibration, Harshness) has been drilled into my head by all the manufacturers. Many of those items you mentioned are part of the NVH abatement. Excellent review Sandy. Keep them coming!
Frunk, trunk, hood now bonnet lol.
Good on you for having a good sense of humor
Time is on my my mind, yes it is
Well done Munroe group
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Thank You Sandy :-)
Dead or retired comment was hilarious 😂
They're retired or dead, that makes Sandy Young at Heart, glad you like the Polestar and take the time to show us what the he-- is headed our way, the coming Chinese wave is going to really weed out the innovators from the Dead Wood!
Sandy's expertise really shines in this sort of video. Sometimes I think he's nuts when he says things like hydrogen fuel cells are going to be a thing, but when it comes to design and manufacturing of cars he's a god.
HAHAHAHAHAHA. OMG. ‘Dead or retired’. That was Sandy’s most pure moment.
Thanks!
No problem!
Never apologize for taking our time. We all want more
"I've got a good memory; it's just short." Classic.
Thanks
I'm glad to hear that Polestar is a good product, but it still seems weird to me that Polestar is Volvo and Volvo is now Chinese.
@@JorgTheElder Polestar is still very Swedish as well. Some Volvos are made in China and I can't really tell the difference between those and the Swedish-made or Belgian-made ones.
pretty cool
great camera work!
Thanks, we have a great team!
Thanks Sandy. It’s good to see these automakers taking electric autos seriously. I think that this and the Mach E are close enough to the Teslas that they are going to be cross shopped a lot. More competition is great for the consumers. I hope that some of the other carmakers get serious soon.
Thanks! Great content. The chassis being based on the XC40 must have some compromises. I test drove the Polstar 2 and compared to the tesla, much quieter. I think it weight is its downfall, something like 300kg heavier then the tesla 3. Totally agree, focus of engineers should be on weight reduction, like in aircraft!!
Needs another 100 miles of range for the price...weight makes you wait...when charging... and getting approved for that car loan .
True, but remember Volvo wants you to subscribe, not purchase. ;) That being said, their subscription is a great deal if you are going to spend this kind of money on a car, but I think only Volvo, not Polestar, does the subscription. The XC40 BEV is now available for subscription in Europe, probably a few months out in the US.
Yess, was waiting for Doo-Dads 🤣👌👌👌
"That would be my last choice on the planet to put the inverter." Great quote!
I wonder why?
"If you blinked, you missed it"
I did 🙈😂
Interesting as always! I have a Polestar 2 so it’s double interesting this time. I tried to figure out where the trailer hitch goes. Thought I would see the anchor points at 8:30 but I guess they are elsewhere. And where is the sensor that opens the trunk when you kick?
great tour underneath the p2. it is a bit heavy for its size indeed.
That arrangement with the front extrusion pushing into the subframe is a common European design. My Renault and my Alfa Romeo are both set up like that.
So cool.
@8:10 Sandy shows the C Channel and my first impression of that from a northern climate perspective is that it's a great place for salt and sand from the roads to accumulate and start corroding the metal. Even an underbody carwash won't clean that channel out. Dropping the tub would solve that issue as well. Thanks Sandy!
WhAt a Lesson!! Your vids should be mandatory at any design class!!
Tesla also has leveling sensors of 11:35. I saw it from Bjorn Nyland Tesla test drive and refurbished clip when they had suspension problem on the old Tesla X.
Hmm, that Mach-E looked pretty good in the background! Though, it could probably use a good teardown... 😎
Dear Sandy, have you seen the very first picture of a front mega casting for model Y? Wow. Just wow. This thing is gargantuan
Looks well engineered and robust.
Sandy should love the huge front half of the model Y hollow-casting just produced a giga Berlin
Thanks for all your insights; they definitely help me up the EV learning curve.
Regarding the Polestar 2 rear end and that space to the tub, a tow bar option was added in the 2022 model.
I wonder whether or not some of that unused space was in preparation for the tow bar?
In general, analysis of tow bar attachments, and folding methods, may be useful for a large part of your audience?
I wonder if a comparison with a petrol XC40 would show the reason for some of the compromises, like that part at 8:30 about the big space between the bottom of the luggage space and aero-cladding. Could it be where the rear muffler goes?
This guy knows his stuff
I value his opinion, it helps me evaluate the ev cars better.
Is the Tub higher to clear a towbar?
8:40 They need the space below for the towbar option.
Love the new intro animation, miss the song!
i get the cost focus of munro on reducing part and simplifying, wich make sense for model 3, mach e or hunday and other car that want to get into 30 or 40k$ price range, but i think polestar is going for the mercedes range of the EV, and cost cutting there and there is less of a focus, then having everything working flawlessly, and so far, i got to say if i was to buy a luxury car, that would surely be on my short list.
thanks for the car presentation, there is so much tv show, magazine, web page of car information, review and comparison, yet none going as much under, and taking plastic cover to show fabrication details and quality as you
Would like to see a full tear down of the Polestar 2 or it’s cousin the XC40BEV. Seems like some the issues that Sandy has pointed out come from the comprises of building on a modified ICE platform rather than starting from the ground up BEV.
Exactly! I like Sandy, but he tends to view each car on its own, rather than as a corporate platform that needs economy of scale.
09:56 Anyone remember the Volvo 142, always whistling down the road?
8:44 i think if you hit ice or smth it will crush much more if was holded from there. Maybe :)
nice
That was thorough and pleasant. ( *Volvo* has always had a good reputation. [ _They're boxy, but they're good._ 😉 {How good is *your* memory?}])
Im here for the hoist
Hopefully - you are taking out the tub under the hood so we get a view looking down into the front bay???
THANKSGIVING
Did Sandy just reference The Friendly Giant @ 7:40?! :D
Never clicked watch so fast!
I like your long videos
Hi Munro, I have a question. I drive a Polestar 2 and work at an Automotive Educational company. Yesterday we did a hoist review aswel and noticed the half shaft are kind of inline with the motor with no obvious gear reduction or differential. Do you have any idea what is going on inside the drive units and how this is constructed/setup? Thank you.
Hi sandy no comment on the extra long main's cable from motor to battery ..
Great 🏫engineering take a gram here and there 😀 efficiency. Frank Costin would have agreed 👍👌👏