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  • Опубліковано 31 бер 2018
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    In this not planned episode of DIY or Buy we will have a look at my failed CD welder project. During the video I will show you how I designed the project and demonstrate how around 90% of it works. At the end though, I will tell you why this project failed and thus show you that buying can save you a lot of nerves.
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  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 6 років тому +977

    Oh, man... You have to fix it! It's a matter of honor now!

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  6 років тому +221

      I will see what I can do

    • @sparkybearbomb533
      @sparkybearbomb533 6 років тому +10

      put the super caps on the PCB (with a lockout jumper), or put a screw terminal for them

    • @MCsCreations
      @MCsCreations 6 років тому +7

      Sparky BearBomb Or he can use a protection board made for super caps.

    • @sparkybearbomb533
      @sparkybearbomb533 6 років тому +4

      that's a great idea, can be used for more projects then =)

    • @MCsCreations
      @MCsCreations 6 років тому +1

      Sparky BearBomb Absolutely!

  • @TheChemicalWorkshop
    @TheChemicalWorkshop 6 років тому +1062

    For 200€ i'd rather try again...

    • @drw0if
      @drw0if 6 років тому +17

      The Chemical Workshop me too xD

    • @Speeder84XL
      @Speeder84XL 6 років тому +129

      Yeah! I don't get the point of videos like this ether. It's one thing to show you misstakes and how you solve the problem. That is also helpful to others. But show a video where you give up and buy the product instead it's quite pointless - especially since the product wasn't that cheap to buy ether.
      There is another video that's even worse when he tries to build a microphone (search for Voice over microphone DIY or buy) and end up buying one that has worse audio quality than my DIY microphones I use for my videos. Still it costs like 10 times as much. Yeah - I want to show people that they shouldn't try to build their own microphone, because I don't know how to build a good one my self. I should make a video my self about how to build good microphones, but have been to lazy to do that (maybe later).
      I'm not complaining on this guy in general - he has a lot of knowledge about programming and stuff that I have no idea about, but posting videos where you just give up and buy the product instead isn't helping anyone.

    • @TheChemicalWorkshop
      @TheChemicalWorkshop 6 років тому +29

      Ride84XL exactly my point
      We don't have 200€ for a gear like this we would rather copy 1:1 other design (youtube?) And give credit to the maker saying we copied 1:1
      I think he has to take the perspective of saving every cent he can like all poor hobbysts do?
      I'm sure there are a lot of solutions
      Man for 200€ for as simple thing like this...

    • @bringamosa8480
      @bringamosa8480 6 років тому +21

      Ride84XL, The Chemical Workshop, seriously, you complain because he can not give you a free ride to how to diy a spotwelder? He even TELS you right after the FIRST minute it fails. Come on please.

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper 6 років тому +20

      Bringamosa I think the complaint is the "DIY or buy" title combined with "I tried it, failed, and kinda gave up rather than trying to come up with a solution for the problem I ran into" instead building one that works then objectively comparing the costs & maybe even performance.
      However, it is April fools day, so who knows if this is a serious video or not

  • @chakk103
    @chakk103 Рік тому +2

    buying a product obviously saves you nerves...the reason people are doing diy is the learning part that comes along with it

  • @R3loaded1313
    @R3loaded1313 5 років тому +6

    I really love that you not only do a good job, but that you remain humble and give that good vibe that practice makes perfect. I do custom modding for ecigs. I'm still somewhat new. I'm looking to get into making my own pcb pwm. Not too complicating with a schematic the problem I have is that I really lack knowledge of what the components actually do. So, now that I know that, it's time to learn even more

  • @ceptimus
    @ceptimus 6 років тому +49

    With super capacitors in series, you really need some over-voltage protection on each individual capacitor. Without this protection, the variations between the individual capacitors (capacity and leakage) means that you will over-voltage some of the capacitors even though the average voltage per capacitor is within the safe working range.

  • @jlibb099
    @jlibb099 6 років тому +69

    I think it takes a lot for someone to go so far and have run into a problem and admit the problem is insurmountable than to "gloss" over the fact and claim success. I really enjoy your videos and "...as always... stay creative and I will see you next time."

    • @MartinBgelund
      @MartinBgelund 6 років тому +7

      I fully agree. Much too often, doomed projects are being kept alive and attempted to be salvaged just because "We spent so much time and money on it already, so all that would be wasted if we stop now!"
      Great Scott made the right decision here: Giving up and concluding that "Buy" is the right decision for him, and providing us with his findings, so that we may make an informed decision to also Buy instead of DIY, or alternatively, DIY while building on his knowledge.
      It takes guts and discipline to abandon a project you already spent a lot of resources on.
      Thanks, Great Scott!!!

    • @curiosity2314
      @curiosity2314 6 років тому +4

      Absolutely agree.

  • @3dw3dw
    @3dw3dw 6 років тому +2

    What I learned from this video - build on breadboard first, then transfer to PCB.
    thank you for all the great lessons.

  • @furonwarrior
    @furonwarrior 4 роки тому

    All of this... and I all I did was soldering two copper ends for contact on the 400F capacitor and a JST connector for charging. I got a step-down voltage converter that allows me to plug this into a USB power supply and charged it all the way up to 2.7V. The current dropped as the capacitor became full and it worked perfectly as the project was simple. I'm gonna make a 2S lithium ion battery for 37 minute flight time for my airplane. Thanks Scott for your wonderful videos as complex and knowledgeable as they are.

  • @adfjasjhf
    @adfjasjhf 6 років тому +523

    I'm not sure if this fail is as an April Fools or not

  • @northshorepx
    @northshorepx 6 років тому +227

    DIY!!!! Thank you for posting this (barely) non successful attempt. I learn a lot from your videos and one of the more interesting this things is not only did I mostly understand what you described,, but rather I appreciate the not wanting to solder such complexity anymore. I think the idea of breadboard then direct to pcb is becoming more and more feasible. Thanks for sharing this tutorial.

    • @9175021696
      @9175021696 6 років тому

      northshorepx any plan for diy laptop battery bank??

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  6 років тому +19

      Glad you liked it :-)

    • @4Erlik
      @4Erlik 6 років тому +11

      I agree. I wish more people would post their failed projects too. They are more often than not important learning experiences.

    • @simontay4851
      @simontay4851 6 років тому +5

      That is why you build it on breadboard or stripboard. You can easily mod the circuit if it goes wrong or unsolder all the components and reuse the strip board.

    • @noway8233
      @noway8233 5 років тому

      @@simontay4851 yes but the temtation of not doit its great ..maybe work next time

  • @MrBrymstond
    @MrBrymstond 6 років тому

    GreatScott!+ It has to be surreal having nearly a million people that love your work and to stop here would be a crying shame and a crime to the tech world. Great Scott!

    • @MrBrymstond
      @MrBrymstond 6 років тому

      Place the Super Caps on the same board if you can. Please and Thank You.

  • @rjanderson4207
    @rjanderson4207 6 років тому +35

    You leans a lot more from failures then successes. Thank your for sharing this

    • @juhaheikkila
      @juhaheikkila 5 років тому +2

      LOL.. so if you always fail, you become super intelligent, that is bullshit... Occasionally if you fail, it teaches you, but what teaches you more is when you succeed.

    • @dragan3290
      @dragan3290 3 роки тому

      It's a bit of both. If you fail all the time then you can get depressed and lose interest!

  • @IRONMANMETALBILLDANKANIS
    @IRONMANMETALBILLDANKANIS 2 роки тому +3

    Your handwriting is impeccable.

  • @BoomBrush
    @BoomBrush 6 років тому +13

    i think its good that you also feature your failures as well as your successes

  • @pederkristoffersen
    @pederkristoffersen 6 років тому +1

    12v high amp batttery, large solenoid, leads, button, done.
    You my friend are a prime example of (german?) over-engineering.

  • @gunsmoke132
    @gunsmoke132 6 років тому

    Good on you! Failure is the best educator. Most don’t post unsuccessful attempts.

  • @crystallineblaze
    @crystallineblaze 6 років тому +8

    Hey GreatScott! thanks for the new video. Just wanted to mention when you were trying to parallel the MOSFETs you should use a small resistance on each source pin. MOSFETs don't like to be paralleled and don't naturally balance the power without some resistance.

  • @eeprom8577
    @eeprom8577 6 років тому +3

    Please don't ever stop making videos. Your work is fantastic!

  • @chrisburn2117
    @chrisburn2117 5 років тому +2

    I like your honesty, even when you fail due to errors we all do with projects, you still present valuable informtive and clean instruction as to why. Thank you keep it up

  • @Chris-ut6eq
    @Chris-ut6eq Рік тому +1

    Great to see a posted fail project. These missteps are key to learning, so good job helping us learn!

  • @tehEngineer3
    @tehEngineer3 4 роки тому +24

    "Spoilers, I'm going to fail terribly. Let's get started."
    Advice to live by...?

  • @siniart
    @siniart 6 років тому +14

    Well, I really like your videos and that you are so honest to yourself. However, when I look on some of your projects, especially the failed ones, I always think : "Maybe he should stop reinventing the wheel and take already existing working and proven solutions from other hackers and bring them to the next level!"
    Seriously, you have the knowledge and the experience. And many projects are not very well explained. So you could really be the right person in these areas.
    This video is another example. There are so many, even arduino driven, welders like this from other hackers. And they work.

  • @malcytull
    @malcytull 5 років тому

    You are one very clever lad, even though it didn't work as you expected, you've made something, millions of people couldn't. Thank you for posting.

  • @CanonFirefly
    @CanonFirefly 6 років тому +1

    You can just use a solenoid circuit to short a car battery accross the welding tips. Super simple and works great. There are a few UA-cam videos using this method.

  • @giannidimarco3805
    @giannidimarco3805 6 років тому +4

    Congratulations mate.
    A great lesson to everyone in how you handle getting it wrong is what makes you humble when you get success.
    I have no idea about all the tech calculations or what half the components are, but I loved watching and listening to you explaining it all.
    Great effort.
    P.S If Mr Samsung or Mr Sony had of thought about buying something instead of making it, they'd both probably still be working for Mr Pioneer.
    Hahahahahaha

  • @user-zq6pj5jo8j
    @user-zq6pj5jo8j 5 років тому +11

    Just use a 12vdc battery with at least 200 CCA up to 600 CCA and a momentary switch. Its got enough power and is super easy to do.

    • @IamG3X
      @IamG3X 5 років тому +2

      I use a 300 cca lithium battery and even with the solenoid it delivers too much power and end up burning a hole on the nickel table. Trying an arduino controlled solenoid rn

    • @jeanterine4712
      @jeanterine4712 5 років тому +1

      @@IamG3X I've seen somewhere a vidéo with just a Maxwell 350F ultra capacitor and it seems to work well. I already tryed with my little car battery, it was a disaster

    • @jeanterine4712
      @jeanterine4712 5 років тому

      Maybe we must ad to the little car battery a "welding time controller" to out a more precise current? And that would be that simple no? So it would cost nearly nothing. I'm wrong? I Can explain the origin of universe also. But no one care

    • @IamG3X
      @IamG3X 5 років тому +1

      @@jeanterine4712 i use arduino relay to control the solenoid to switch on the battery. haven't test it out yet.

    • @IamG3X
      @IamG3X 4 роки тому

      @Smattless sir lol. i actually watched the guy that you linked. i use his idea of the solenoid as an on/off switch but it still TOO POWERFUL for the nickel strips. I thought you can use to arduino relay to turn the solenoid on and off better than your finger. idk

  • @kurtnelle
    @kurtnelle 6 років тому

    Very nice. You demonstrated the ups and downs of the inventive process. A rare type of video on UA-cam.

  • @azharmukhi5894
    @azharmukhi5894 Рік тому +1

    Great scott: builds a special circuit for welding.
    Me who don't know how to make a circuit: just connect all up to 12 volts capacitors that I can find in parallel and charging them with a 12 volts battery and shorting it for welding 😂

  • @jasonharris2343
    @jasonharris2343 6 років тому +5

    I had my parents thinking you were me in the video!!! I told them I started making youtube videos using a pseudonym and a fake accent. I had them going for a while, and they looked rather proud of me, then I said "Aprillll fooooools!" lol

  • @NourMuhammad
    @NourMuhammad 6 років тому +19

    Can you if possible elaborate more on the problem you faced in your design and the solution for this problem since I really didn't understand what exactly was the problem and how to fix it!
    thanks

    • @joshuanorris5860
      @joshuanorris5860 6 років тому +2

      What he said!

    • @naotamf1588
      @naotamf1588 3 роки тому +1

      yeah man, how many amps exactly do nickle stripes require for how long @which voltage? am i required to have a pulsating cirquit? can't I just deliver that pulse manually? How much complexity is actually necessary for spotwelding?

  • @y2ksw1
    @y2ksw1 6 років тому

    Every successful project undergoes a lot of work, which is most often a complete failure. Having the courage to try again and again, makes it then a masterpiece. And, who never has put a soldering iron in their hand, are easy to criticize other people 😊

  • @jimbobillybob1959
    @jimbobillybob1959 6 років тому

    Dear friend I'm 58 years old almost 59 and you know how many times I have failed I can't even count them all so don't feel bad thanks for showing us your failure because that's how we all learn through our failures and the more of us that show our failures the more of us learn how not to fail which is what it's all about!

  • @michaelo2l
    @michaelo2l 5 років тому +5

    You were almost there, you can fix it but... practice soldering more ;)
    Love the videos....

  • @powermos
    @powermos 6 років тому +15

    You will not short your power supply since the positive lead of the capacitors goes through a resistor to the psu (the resistor for slower charging). So it will draw some current from the psu, but it won't shorten it. However you have other mistakes, which will probably kill your transistors. You have wired your discharge N-mos transistors on the high side. That's a big no-no since you are not driving them with a high side driver! The proper way here would be to ground the transistors and connect the welding electrodes between the negative lead of the capacitors and the transistor drain. I don't know why are you using drivers anyways' since you picked a logic level gate transistor?!? Overall it would take no more than 10min to fix it so i see no reason to quit, just cut the trace from the discharge transistors to the negative of the capacitors and use that trace for one side of the electrode and the negative of the capacitors for the other. Don't cut the trace from the cap negative to the charging transistor and ground the source of the discharging transistors. That's it.

    • @nessotrin
      @nessotrin 6 років тому

      Wolfshark Can you explain a bit more about the mosfets ? I didn't know that could be a problem, I'm curious.

    • @powermos
      @powermos 6 років тому +17

      I will probably not explain i well enough, but here how it is from a practical point of view:
      Lets, say you are using mosfets to turn on a 12v car bulb. Let's say you are using a logic level n-mos which can switch plenty of current at 5V at the gate. The correct way to wire everything would be +12v to the first lead of the bulb, the second lead of the bulb goes to the drain and the source goes to ground. When you apply 5v between ground and gate (which in this case is the same as applying it between the source and gate) your bulb will light up and the transistor would be fine, because 5V at the gate would be enough for, lets say, 10A of current to pass through it.
      Now let's say you install the n-mos on the high side, meaning +12v goes to the drain, source goes to the bulb and the second lead of the bulb goes to ground you will have a problem. You apply 5V between the ground and the gate, but that's not the same as applying it between the source and gate. There will be significant source offset from ground, because of the lamp that is between ground and source. So, your transistor is turned off, so the resistance between drain and source is practically infinte for you. You apply 5V to the gate and the transistor is starting to turn on. The resistance of the bulb is, let's say, 2ohm. As the resistor is turning on, the resistance between drain and source begins to fall. That resistance might be very low when the transistor is in it's ON state (in most cases lower than 0.1 ohm), but it won't go there instantly . It will fall very quickly but let's say it reaches 4ohm in 50us. At 4 ohm at the transistor and 2ohm at the bulb you will form, effectively a voltage divider. That would mean 4V at the source. And you have 5V at the gate - that would mean 1V between source and gate! That would definitely not be enough to turn on the transistor, so it would balance in that state. So now you will have a very dimly lit light bulb and a very hot transistor.
      So If you want to use a n-mos transistor on the high side you should use a high side driver which will deliver the proper voltage between gate and source. The alternative is to use p-mos, but you still have to use a driver, and generally n-mos transistors are better.
      English is not my native language so sorry about the (possibly) confusing explanation.

    • @mouradbouabdallah9049
      @mouradbouabdallah9049 6 років тому

      nessotrin ,i think he is worried about the Vgs breakdown voltage because the source of the nmos will be floating

    • @joshuanorris5860
      @joshuanorris5860 6 років тому +1

      Hehehhe. What he said!
      Lol its over my head but id love to see you fix that spot welder :P

    • @PsiQ
      @PsiQ 6 років тому +2

      www.infineon.com/dgdl/Infineon-BTS555+E3146-DS-v01_00-EN.pdf?fileId=5546d4625a888733015aa3f57e5e103e
      :-) Done !
      (Power Supply , 1k resistor to Caps, caps to BTS555, bts555 to welding tips. the cap legs are too thin for high current tho...)

  • @zerog2000
    @zerog2000 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for sharing even the failures. This is how we all learn collectively - from our own, and each others' mistakes!

  • @GS-bd9zh
    @GS-bd9zh 5 років тому

    Thanks for sharing... Alot of DIY'ers post video that are successful and don't or rarely show the disadvantages. You my friend are a trust worthy guy and your videos seem more authentic. Good job. After all failing is how we succeed ! 👍

  • @666Delson666
    @666Delson666 6 років тому +10

    great job, i wanna see a video of ground loop isolation solution!!

  • @BuzZ.
    @BuzZ. 6 років тому +16

    I don't know if you know AvE but he has made a video about DIY spot welding !
    By car battery

    • @BuzZ.
      @BuzZ. 6 років тому +1

      Solder Joe u don't know !

    • @jort93z
      @jort93z 6 років тому +8

      you can weld the positive terminal. you just have to put both of the electrodes on the terminal, otherwise the current will go through the battery. but nothing stops you from welding with the car battery in that way.

    • @ipissed
      @ipissed 6 років тому +1

      There are numerous videos on UA-cam that prove you wrong.

    • @ipissed
      @ipissed 6 років тому +2

      Solder Joe - The comprehension problem is your failure to comprehend the path of least resistance. You have gone full on tard here, check yourself next time.

    • @GroovyVideo2
      @GroovyVideo2 6 років тому +1

      there is 100s of tab welding videos using a 12 v battery -joe is keyboard warrior

  • @szoszaty
    @szoszaty 6 років тому

    Nice to see you share your failed projects as well. Mistake is one of the biggest teachers. Thank you!

  • @leadproblem
    @leadproblem 6 років тому

    You will get there. Dont let the past few failed attempts stop you from having fun and experimenting with welding projects

  • @NoumanAli
    @NoumanAli 6 років тому +12

    I watch every video of yours and I love how you describe things. But your soldering skills are not that professional. 😜

  • @MrKronen75
    @MrKronen75 6 років тому +3

    A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new- Albert Einstein

    • @juhaheikkila
      @juhaheikkila 5 років тому

      Electronics is purely mathematics, not trying and making mistakes -procedure. You can predict pretty well just by looking the schematics that does it work or not.

  • @Chaoddity
    @Chaoddity 5 років тому +1

    I appreciate you posting this. It was a fun watch, learned a few things, and felt better about some of my own mistakes. Nice to know we are all just learning as we go.

  • @dbuezas
    @dbuezas 5 років тому

    Es ist super, dass du auch die fails hochlädst!

  • @michaiunitra8775
    @michaiunitra8775 6 років тому +5

    Helo sorry for my Eanglish because I from Poland :) . I like your films it's so amazing . I interesting electronic I have 11 years ago sorry for my English .

  • @melonswag420
    @melonswag420 6 років тому +32

    i guess the pcb"s got the april fools on you.

  • @KrisX7331
    @KrisX7331 6 років тому

    Here's my metod.I have 2 transformers wired in paralel which give around 24v AC and 30-35A.I use leftovers from desoldering wire which has solder on it.I conncect on side of transformer to the desoldering wirr and other side with a carbon rod from AAA cell.I takes around 6-8 sec and the joint is unbrakable.Usualy i do it 3 times to make sure it wont fall off.You can add flux is you want it will make it better.It has worked for me for more than 20 batteries.

  • @RoadRunnerMeep
    @RoadRunnerMeep 6 років тому

    Doesn't matter if it's a fail or win. Your videos are amazing to watch, you speak clearly, it's easy to understand and they're always interesting to watch :)

  • @minefally
    @minefally 6 років тому +14

    $23.83 for shipping???

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  6 років тому +8

      Express shipping

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 6 років тому +4

      Shipping by crane. Not crane, a lifting device, but crane, a bird that allegedly brings babies.
      Sometimes it brings them dead.

    • @THE16THPHANTOM
      @THE16THPHANTOM 5 років тому

      international express shipping costs i guess.
      i always pay it because waiting months i cant take it.

  • @bekircandal3528
    @bekircandal3528 6 років тому +55

    rip 30$

    • @bekircandal3528
      @bekircandal3528 6 років тому +1

      true af..

    •  6 років тому

      EUR or USD?

    • @SuperPickle15
      @SuperPickle15 6 років тому +1

      Yeah... otherwise, just etch your own boards for like a $2 in materials... lol

    • @dantosrock43
      @dantosrock43 6 років тому

      stay creative and see u next time hahahahahaha

    • @freevbucks8019
      @freevbucks8019 4 роки тому

      rip 1/2 AAA game

  • @CircularMirror7
    @CircularMirror7 6 років тому

    Thank you for this video. I had bread boarded a project and got it working then was transferring it too perf board after all that work it didn't work. I started to get unmotivated after hours of trying to figure out why it didn't work. Until I saw this video even after all your work you didn't get it right. But you still learned with a failure and helped others. I'll start fresh and won't let my failure get in the way of trying projects. Great video.

  • @shubhamdeshmukh1114
    @shubhamdeshmukh1114 6 років тому +1

    And this video perfectly shows why not to bother buying a custom PCB for uncertain project. I still think it is possible to create a good(cost effective) diy CD welder with little bit tweaking. Keep up the good work.. :)

  • @derknistermann5613
    @derknistermann5613 6 років тому +4

    Did you watch Afrotechmods video about super capacitors?
    He used some to melt coins and they should do the job!

    • @JohnCena-iw2vk
      @JohnCena-iw2vk 6 років тому

      nah, he used those ultracaps, not supercaps.

    • @jimmysyar889
      @jimmysyar889 4 роки тому

      @@JohnCena-iw2vk same difference

  • @vanshdhir6168
    @vanshdhir6168 6 років тому +3

    create a welder from old microwave transformers use 2 of them in series

    • @ConnorWeller
      @ConnorWeller 6 років тому

      Vansh Dhir he tried that originally in the video

  • @tehenhauin03
    @tehenhauin03 6 років тому

    One of the best educational channels on yt right now.

  • @zanpekosak2383
    @zanpekosak2383 6 років тому

    Finally somebody that doesnt joke on April 1st. I hate all the damn pranks.

  • @siddheshgawali7764
    @siddheshgawali7764 6 років тому +4

    ...With a functioning project hopefully ....😅😅😅😂🤘✌

  • @Zhaymoor
    @Zhaymoor 6 років тому +3

    you gave up too quickly this time my friend

  • @ranger175a2w
    @ranger175a2w 6 років тому +1

    always a pleasure Scott, even if you sometimes fail. prototyping is an under appreciated effort.

  • @fibranijevidra
    @fibranijevidra 6 років тому

    The way you present your project is very good and you make it fun ti watch no matter of the spoiler from the beggining. Keep up great work Great Scott!

  • @albertox0404
    @albertox0404 6 років тому +19

    And why you do not use lipo batteries instead of capacitors?

    • @bananobanana1870
      @bananobanana1870 6 років тому +57

      They cannot discharge fast enough

    • @AmmarAbotouk
      @AmmarAbotouk 6 років тому +5

      Alberto cornejo Ave actually did that though he used high power 18650 cells to do that and he was successful

    • @albertox0404
      @albertox0404 6 років тому +1

      banano banana i use a turnigy nano-tech lipo battery and it works perfect 🤔, but i know that maybe other kind of lipo batteries can not support it.

    • @albertox0404
      @albertox0404 6 років тому +2

      Laharl Krichevskoy yes, i break a 8000mah turnigy nano-tech cell one month later 😫

    • @__mk_km__
      @__mk_km__ 6 років тому +2

      Because, even though super capacitors have a "super" in their name, the amount of energy stored is big only relative to its not-super relatives. LiPo, or LiIon, or even any alkaline battery has far more energy stored than even super capacitors.

  • @csrfreak4391
    @csrfreak4391 6 років тому +3

    eeeheheehehe April foolss

  • @TheFlyingScotsmanTV
    @TheFlyingScotsmanTV 6 років тому

    no such thing as a failed experiment. negative results are just as important as positive ones. thanks for posting.

  • @klonikFPV
    @klonikFPV 6 років тому

    Hello all, I created spot welder using old inductor for 50Hz with 12cm^2 core. I removed one half of coil and replaced with 4 turns 40 paralel 1,3mm diameter transformer windings to gets high current. Electrodes are from 6mm diameter copper rod with pick at the end. For driving this transformer i used capacitor dropper and simply timing circuit with relay. Something like this can be made using any bigger transformer for mains voltage.
    Coast: 10 hours of work :D

  • @coolkeel
    @coolkeel 6 років тому +4

    This is really not a video to show, at least go more into the detail process on how you designed the gate drive wrong and also the fixing process. Otherwise this is useless, its always easier to buy something, but DIY is the way to go if you want to learn something.

  • @redcattrix
    @redcattrix 2 роки тому

    Ну, если подходить с такой стороны к DIY, то лучше конечно купить готовое изделие. Но DIY - это самоделка. В моем случае самоделка из электронного хлама и минимальными затратами. За свои деньги купил только драйвер MOSFET и мотореле. Все остальное было найдено и выпаяно со старых плат. Печатная плата сделана ЛУТом. На сборку и изготовление ушло часов 5. На скетч - минут 30, на идею (схему) - дня три. В качестве источника энергии - LiPo 14V 100C аккумулятор, куплен на деньги, полученные от сдачи на вторсырье пачки старых свинцовых аккумуляторов )) На JLCPCB нужно отправляться, когда все баги уже устранены )) Видео, тем не менее, понравилось! Интересно )

  • @kork12310
    @kork12310 6 років тому

    I made a spotwelder only for aboud 50€ and its freaking good!!
    - microwave transformer ~30€
    - 35mm² Cable 1,50m ~10€
    - 12v supply for arduino and Relay ~ 5€
    - Relay ~2€
    - Arduino ~2€
    At the moment i have a simple potentiometer as time adjustment but i have the plan to put a rotary encoder and a little display on it.

    • @lukabread4099
      @lukabread4099 2 роки тому

      How did you get a microwave transformer for 30€ you can find microwaves in the trash and free and also for dirt cheap

  • @DefinedEdits
    @DefinedEdits 6 років тому

    I pulled off a transformer welder which cost:
    Transformer - $0
    0 Gauge wire - $10
    relay - $25
    ATMega - $3
    7segment display - $5
    wood - $0
    Will be building an ebike soon!

  • @pauln1557
    @pauln1557 3 роки тому +1

    Einstein said; "The man who never made a mistake never tried anything new".

  • @jamest.5001
    @jamest.5001 5 років тому

    I have 1500+ cells, and that's only the start of my project, I need to spot weld them, I built smaller banks by soldering, I don't like to. And it does NOT look that great, there is spotwelder timing boards available on Amazon, I thought about maybe trying a SSR or a group of MOSFETs, for the pulse switch, from caps, and either use a 12v or so battery, of a mot transformer, rewound for high current 10-18vdc, to charge the caps at about 30-50 amps, I don't have super capa , I do have about 3 farad of caps, surely with the transformer and a couple farad of capacitance will spotweld!!! I do not want a failed project, I can't afford the loss at the moment, . I need it to work that's why I'm here! Great video even if it's a fail, still a great learning process, it makes you think more than a " how - to " video..... Thank-you,, ,,, ,, , .

  • @brettito
    @brettito 6 років тому

    I really like that you show failed projects. In real life, engineering isn't always 100% success on the first try. Thanks!

  • @loucinci3922
    @loucinci3922 3 роки тому

    You didn't fail. You learned. Thanks for sharing

  • @calyodelphi124
    @calyodelphi124 6 років тому +1

    It sucks that this project didn't work so spectacularly for you. :( But at the same time though there's still tons to learn from stuff like this! Like how you pointed out that the MOSFETs needed a proper reference voltage for them to be able to properly switch on, and so forth. :)

  • @thersten
    @thersten 2 роки тому +1

    wow. gotta admire his will power.

  • @averagejoe79
    @averagejoe79 6 років тому

    Message of the day:realize what your kryptonite is. It takes a pretty intelligent person to see what theirs may be. You'll master them one day! Love the vids!

  • @JR-je7ce
    @JR-je7ce 6 місяців тому

    Been watching your channel years but currently trying to build a similar thing so using this for reference and i just have to say i miss this opening scene

  • @TommyCallaway
    @TommyCallaway 6 років тому

    I love your voiceovers. Soothing and nerdy. Don't care if you failed, your video was still a good watch. :)

  • @djrachot
    @djrachot 5 років тому

    He is printing the code and specs on paper. Very good for environment.

  • @pentachronic
    @pentachronic 5 років тому

    Large caps, high voltage (30v+), 12v lamp as soft-start cap charger, thick wire and copper terminals. Done. Rapid discharge of current from the Cap(s). Energy in a Cap E=CV^2 which is why higher voltages are good.

  • @samsmith6805
    @samsmith6805 6 років тому

    We did something similar at home with the Mic transformer. 3 turns of 25mm^2 cable on the secondary, gave us ~3v 1200amps. Then used a broken toaster circuit (element snapped), as the timer. Swapped the electromagnet with a 240v solid-state relay and a few caps to reduce the "toasting" time frame. Together with a foot switch and doneski ;) the perfect fix for replacing old power tool battery packs

  • @Paul-gz5dp
    @Paul-gz5dp 5 років тому +1

    This is similar in idea to what in industry is called a STUD WELDER, and they use a hockey puck SCR as the switch and 8 or 10 very large capacitors and charge them up to 400 volts. The voltage is set by a voltage regulator. Please keep in mind that I used to fix them over 10 years ago, and the part that usually failed was the voltage controlled charging source and the computer grade high voltage capacitors.

  • @sunilthapali259
    @sunilthapali259 6 років тому

    Thanks brother; I learn a lot.taking of spot welders;hoping to see battery welder .sorry for poor English.my english is not good. Always respect to u;for everything u have done for us.

  • @LaLaLand.Germany
    @LaLaLand.Germany 9 місяців тому

    I´d be glad if You revisit this. I need a spot welder like this for my 18650 pack project. This has just the right ingridients: pulse widh control, a nice foot switch and an input voltage my bench power can handle.
    I´m stupid at circuitry but can put together something following build instructions and then use it.
    Having a pcb and parts list would be so awsome!

  • @totanpaltotanpal4817
    @totanpaltotanpal4817 6 років тому

    Soldering kerne ke bad up Air hit machine ke istemal karo pcb pe , solder bohot aacha dekai dega.
    Thanks video uploaded and clear problems

  • @MrSnapy1
    @MrSnapy1 3 роки тому

    Lol "I will fail horribly" .... Only the best projects start this way!! Awesome content!

  • @recklessroges
    @recklessroges 6 років тому

    I learn more from the things that don't work, so this is a valuable video. Danke.

  • @zlackbiro
    @zlackbiro 6 років тому

    OMG, there is no video that cant show the Arduino board! This is a sign from God! I started 2 weeks ago with the arduino. Its amazing!

  • @phuang3
    @phuang3 Рік тому +1

    The most important for a super capacitor welder is the charging circuit. Simply charging them in series is dangerous, especially for those bulky ultracapacitors.

    • @vkproduction1166
      @vkproduction1166 Рік тому +1

      if we use a separate isolated power supply for charging the capacitor and uses switches like relay
      We can make this work right
      actually I am new to electronics just trying to improve my debugging skills

  • @edgeeffect
    @edgeeffect 6 років тому

    Super capacitors blow my mind. When I was a kid, I read in an electronics textbook that 1 Farad capacitors were impossible and, if they were, would be the size of a house... and here you are with a 100 F super capacitor in your hand.

  • @thehobe2111
    @thehobe2111 3 роки тому +2

    Use a separate power supply for the control circuit so that the drive voltage to the switching FETS remains above 6-7V as the supercapacitors discharge AND voltage drops won't kill your Fets. You could also use a diode and a large decoupling capacitor going to the control circuit.

  • @0rez
    @0rez 4 роки тому

    Your wide skill range is what I am opting to achieve one day. Incredible. Even if it didn't work.

  • @michahalczuk9071
    @michahalczuk9071 6 років тому

    Hey. I've been soldering a lot of cells lately, and I think I found pretty good method to do it, without heating cells too much.
    I used transformer soldering iron with tip was partly damaged which made it work.
    What you need is a tip with very thick copper bars, that are connected by a thin wire.
    Thin wire gets hot enough to melt solder, and then the current flows directly through it, melting it much quicker, and getting it to stick everywhere.
    I've soldered a good amoung of cells like this with pretty good results, and the contact area is quite high as well.

  • @emersonsrandomvideos248
    @emersonsrandomvideos248 6 років тому

    Makes sense to just buy after all those troubles of troubleshooting. Very nice presentation!

  • @johnconrad5487
    @johnconrad5487 6 років тому

    I'm sorry to see that your project failed. too bad. But that is the thing that makes us better engineers. check for details that we missed in our last project. I enjoy watching your videos. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Rhys_Official
    @Rhys_Official 4 роки тому

    Sometimes complex isn't always the way to go. Start thinking less sophisticated, then you'll get the result you've been wanting.

  • @joemadden567
    @joemadden567 6 років тому

    Excellent Video GreatScott! It's nice to see that even yourself has genuine failures and you're not afraid to share them so we can all learn! I will continue to support you through patreon! :)

  • @hemlocksalad5383
    @hemlocksalad5383 6 років тому +1

    36v is needed to break down the air enough to create a sufficent arc although 24v would work just know you need like 90 amps. Im in welding school and i hope this basic info helps your welding projects because id love to see you make a working one

  • @Henrik229
    @Henrik229 6 років тому

    You can also use a couple of mosfets and a big lipo battery. That's what I use and it works great. That costed me about 20€ without the lipo.

  • @jparky1972
    @jparky1972 6 років тому

    April Fools joke or not.
    I honestly do appreciate that you both show your success and failures here on UA-cam.
    Both with incorrect components PCB layouts to missing circuit parts.
    It's good to learn from failures... and fun to watch yours. 😆

  • @garylangley6532
    @garylangley6532 6 років тому

    I'm glad I'm not the only one who has screwed up using easy EDA. My problem with EasyEda is being lazy and using the auto router