and FIVE TOOLS to build your palletwood empire!
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- Опубліковано 27 жов 2023
- I take a pine pallet and turn it into something very useful. This video I talk about tools you'll want in your shed and a few simple techniques to try out with pine palletwood.
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The whistling on the backing track was making think I was going crazy trying to find out who was whistling in and or around my house.
I stuck with you the entire time.
🤣 thanks mate
Oof, no mitre saw. Youre a brave man!
I think you’re proof you don’t need every saw 😆
Lol after 2 coffees of consideration. Im going to have to steal that one. Another great video as always
Thanks mate! Steal away
I was keen the new table saw. Guess I have to watch the next video too 😂
Well it won’t be in the next one 🤣 unless it magically turns up soon
@@dainermade 🤣 I guess the travelling speed of a table saw can be quite slow 😂 at one stage I’ll have to come up there and help you with your shed extension so you can get your mitre saw back
I don't know if it's because I'm sleepy or if I'm having a stroke, but I needed closed captions to understand everything. lol. Great advice, though!
It is the Aussie accent or am I talking rubbish? lol
To be fair Dainsy, I’m Aussie too… going to go with you talking rubbish😂
So happy to see the final product in it's place - fit's perfectly in. There's no way to tell that's a pine pallet!
only if you watch the video haha
A video on all your jigs and when and how you use them would even be nice.
Cheers mate. I think that’ll be the type of thing I put on the other channel. Spend a bit more time talking
Seeing how easily you broke those pallets down makes me incredibly jealous 😂
Get ya self a pallet buster. And paint it pink of course 🤣
Hello Dansy
I am making some pellet chopping boards at the moment.
Great video again highlight of weekend
Thanks mate 👍 enjoy it all
The Table looks great, the round over fits the size, Can't wait to see Future Projects
Thanks mate. I do wish I had a slightly larger round over on the frame. It got a little lost once the paint went on
@@dainermadeI was sad that you painted over the wood but hey ho!
Looking forward to the new channel
Thank you. My brain is thinking up the first video
Ditching the mitre saw..... 😲
Oh.. and I'm keen to watch more talky talky how to videos, Talky McTalkface.
😆 might need a t shirt with that on it lol. Cheers
Hi . Enjoyed your pallet blog. I can relate to your humour. Thanks and you are on the button with your wood skills. Nice job.
Look forward to an intro lesson on cnc plus recommendations.???
Hey Dave. Thanks for watching, I have only tuned into @cnc3d YT channel for the basics.
can you do a video . on your videography set up. how you set camras, what shop lights you have, etc?
Hello, I’m thinking I’ll include that into a tour of the shed on the other channel
Hey Mark thanks again for another ripper video. You're overspending on the grease proof paper mate. I do my glue ups on an old piece of laminate from a kitchen bench top or some cheap office furniture or something - I forget what it was. Maybe I'm getting old. Anyway, glue doesn't stick to the plastic surface and it's dead flat. There's always someone throwing this stuff out on the nature strip or something so the price is perfect.
That’s a great idea! Next time 🤣 thanks for watching
Getting rid of my chop saw would be like chopping off my nut sack, I couldn't live without it, but the mix of bench saw jigs and your CNC machine is a great combo. Excellent vid
Gazz. News flash… you could actually live with out your nut sack. Pretty sure they’re just decoration at your age now 😂
They use to hav belt sander races at work when i first started 2 sìde by side a long extension cord
our shop floor was timber they sat on them and balanced somehow squeezed the trigger and off they went good old makitas from 1994 vintage
Can you show how you made the jig you use on the table saw and specifically how it works?
Thanks for the inspiration to smash out the belty
Any time! Belty for the win
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I said it for you.
Nice bench, very accessible for the majority of us.
Thank you 🤣🤣🤣 I do want to keep showing these types of builds. Hopefully they are well received
Go with the extra channel. You're doing a great job of inspiring us wannabes
We are all wannabes mate. I’ve just picked up a camera at the same time 🤣
Love waking up to some more Dainsey - heading off to sub up to the Unofficial. Then heading to the workshop - those pallet blocks have been piling up...
Good morning and thank you. I’ll get to work on the other channel
Hi Dansy, you probably have one already but if not then a steel fixers nips is ideal for screw nails buried in knots, thanks for the vid,s pal
Another great video mate, just get started
That's the plan! For the other channel 🤣 cheers mate
I'm still amazaed that a tommy sauce bottle lid fits the titebond bottles 😂😂👌🏻
The lid is what it’s all about. Lays down the perfect amount haha
Do you have a link to your ratcheting mitre track dovetail clamps?
While I've been a fan of your videos for quite some time now (but should watch more of your content), find your commentary and advice really helpful, and love your products and the processes used to create them, I absolutely have to know more about your bird.
+1 sub to the new channel
Is that what the whistling was? It was so distracting. At first I thought it was outside my house, then I thought it was part of the music even though it didn't fit.
Nicely done as per usual mate 👍 After many weeks of being in the internet wilderness l'm finally back to watching some vids and by the looks of it l have a Shizen load to catch up on!! I agree mate, those hall tables are the biz....never go out of style 👍 By the way you've got another subscriber....good luck with the new channel mate 👍👍😁🇦🇺
Great video Mark looks great can’t wait to see what you do next
Thank you. Best I get to work
Just seen your outtakes on the shampoo shelf, think you should do that at the end of more of your stuff, as people love those 👍👍. Keep up the good work, but please don’t drift toooo far off the path 👍
Cheers mate, I will try slot a few more of those in here and there. Also which path?
@@dainermade just mean the types of machines your using & things your making 🤣🤣, I remember someone telling Jesper makes off for not using pallets anymore 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@snooker1972 ahh gotcha. Well what you see is my path for a fair while yet 😆
About time you made that,the missus has really been pining for that 😁
Hang on! Is pining actually a word 🤣
@@dainermadesure is , wood I lie to you 😂
Ugh... I saw vid from your channel some time ago... and others included in your clips... and now - getting materials to build my shed and try pallet adventure ^^
Happy days. Enjoy mate
Beautiful table ❤
Thank you! 😊
This was excellent, I wish the sun was my problem. More like "ill do this inside so I don't drown!"
I barley even rains here 🤣 cheers
Dainsey. I feel like I have been in a calming wood shed therapy session. You have the most professional table saw side manner.
Great vid mate. Great bench too.
Hey hey Marty! That’s funny 😆 Hopefully new table saw side manner soon
@@dainermade band saw... mitre saw... you know if I was a table saw in your shop I might not sleep too well at night and seek therapy too.
What was the 5th tool? Did I somehow miss this? Was it the jigsaw, or...? Also... thanks a ton for sharing your videos and knowledge! You are such a generous person! You and Jesper alone have given me so much newfound hope and inspiration, I cannot wait to get started! I've already got about a dozen pallets laying around ( assembled and disassembled ), as I've already found their repurposed wood to come in handy when it comes to making different things ( raised bed planter boxes and goat feeders/milking stands and stanchions to name a few ). Anyways, so glad I found you guys! Keep up the good work and videos mate! Cheers!!
I'm really excited to see more of your videos. I enjoy learning from you. You are the one who helped me decide to start making things from pallets. Just getting started. 😂
Great to hear! Appreciate you tuning in. All the best with your pallet journey
Table saw next, check, might go get the little Ozito PXC 2x18, that way i don't have to get a 15 amp power point installed.
I did not know they made a ozito battery table saw. There are many Jobsite saws that are 10amp. Money is always an issue. But if you can hold out a little more and save a few more dollars. You won’t be disappointed. I’m all for DIY tools. But have a good think about the table saw
This is perfect. All I ever get is softwood pallets around here!
Same everywhere really. Quite lucky to find the good stuff these days
Out with the mitre saw! It's one tool I don't have and unlikely I will ever get one, but I do want a bandsaw 🫣
I’m pretty confident you’ll never need one either. You’d be a wizard on the bandy Presto
Don't you just love the Koel in the background
The who 🤷♂️🤣
the Koel bird in the background, you know the one that drives you crazy. ua-cam.com/video/GoBlkaGJk4s/v-deo.html @@dainermade
Luv the video,thanks for showing.
Thanks for watching!
Pine is all we get in the uk. I dream of the different timbers in your pallets.
We do sound pretty lucky here
I'm in the UK too and know how hard it is to get any other types but I lucked out and got some pallet frames that have lovely red wood, they have had nails cut rather than pulled out in the past so have that to deal with, my punch just slides off them when I hit it but am keeping them for a special project, have no clue what it will be but I know I don't want to use it for any old project, just keep looking around and you might get lucky
most suspenseful music possible
Great stuff Mark, highlight of the week 👍. Certainly be following your new chanel.
Thanks to you and your adventures with wood, this new pallet hobby is a keeper. As you said....I just got started 😉
Cheers
Pete' New Zealand.
Bloody awesome to hear mate! Just carry on!!!
Solid advice and solid build, subbed! 😊
Hey Karlos, thanks mate. Still not sure what the channel involve. But humbled all the same
Subscribed to the new page, would love to see some more in depth about your process from breaking the pallet down to finishing your slab. Love the content!
Thanks mate. No worries, these are the sorts of things I’ll like to pass on
A C&C is a luxury, but the Mitre saw is a necessity for me. Especially for house renovation work.
Cool mate, we all have different needs and or wants. cheers
@@dainermade Yep! I would love a C&C machine though! The wife would kill me because it would replace her car's spot in the garage.
Nice one mate! Thanks.
No problem 👍
Thanks for the video's! Really help me start my woodworking Journey last week with just a drill and circular saw! Made two types of wall decoration with palletwood and one soldaten already!
That is awesome! And how it starts
Just get started got me started 🤟🏽😎🤟🏽
Excellent! Carry on and enjoy 😁
Your a great motivator for my grandkids. I've got them thinking of all kinds of ways to reuse pallet wood and and make a few bucks so they can buy some of the cool stuff they don't have the money for. They are 11 and 8 years old.
That is awesome! They will certainly Value what the buy after earning it them selves
Good job! And yes I stuck with you. Lol
Excellent. Thank you 😆
Mate, second channel subscribed and can't wait to see what's next! Keep it up! I'm lovin' all the videos!!
Thank you. Hopefully I’ll get happening soon
Looks great man. But think about hanging the cnc on the wall.gives you way more space.
Thanks mate. Unfortunately not recommended (or do you mean for storage)?
@dainermade yes and no I store mine on the wall and it will find down for me. But i also use it that way a bunch. All.my chips fall off the piece so less issues with chip build up. But I also have an one finity cnc. And it's super stable
Subbed to the new channel. Keep em coming mate. Another great video.
Thanks for the sub! Best I get to work 😆
Great video mate and subbed to the new channel. I dont spend much time on YT like i used to but your videos always hit the spot.
Hey Ryno, that is really nice to hear mate. I always love hearing from the OGs
Great to see so many subscribers to your new channel without any videos yet! Sign of respect, popularity etc. Maybe make some "how to" shorts videos? Keep up the great content mate. Cheers from UK
It is completely humbling. I was stoked people were actually listening 🤣
Got to say... You videos got me inspired... and after 12 years I finaly made my spot in the garage to work... after 2 weeks of plaineing, jointing, cutting and sanding... just glued together my first "table top"... keep your fingers X :D ... I'm experimenting as F... XD keep up the great work. Always like to watch it.
That’s awesome to hear mate. Sounds like the start of full addiction haha
We all have our differences. Our most used tool in our production shop is the miter saw, then the panel saw, then the cnc's, the Festool fleet of tools, etc. Before, in another shop where we mainly produced ply/mdf cabinets, the one tool I missed the most was a miter saw for cross cutting of planks and boards.
That it hey. We all have very different work flows, I’m sure I’ll be fine with out. I hope 🤣
Nice job mate
Thanks very much
Now then Markie Boy great fun video and a nice little bench from pallet wood. Keep em coming
Cheers Stevie 🤣 I will do mate
I am using your teachings to make my daughter a Murphy desk and for the desktop I'm doing face grain. Then she says, daddy? Can I have a rainbow desk 🌈🫠🤯. So I don't have Skateboards but when you homeschool you have heaps of colored construction paper!
Coloured paper and resin is another cool option. Not much colouring in at my home school, teenager haha
@@dainermade if I use thin layers in between pine and oak slats with titebond 2 will it hold well without backing?
Really appreciate this info/demo! It's timely, too. I'm working with several softwood pallets right now, and I'd begun to wonder if they were worth the time. Definitely, yes!
The miter saw decision, though, is an act of bravery beyond my capacity to emulate! I eagerly await the presentation of your Jigsy McJigsface line of adaptive devices!
And I'll be subbed up to the new channel momentarily. Cheers!
🤣 hello again! Hopefully the other channel will let me slow down a little. Keen to pass on more info if I can
@dainermade I plan to be a regular viewer! Cheers.
Well that was worth two watches... once in Melbourne with Chris and now again relaxing at home. I needed the second watch as we were too busy filming commentary of the first playthrough to concentrate... 🤣🤣
Haha! Well thank you for the bonus view. Sounded like a great trip
The "Say it" subtitle was my biggest laugh of the video.
🤣 cheers mate. And why I do these thing hahaha
We should 'stick with you' at the glue up stage? Surely
Very true 😆
Already subbed to your 2nd channel. Thanks for the good content and your friendly and calm attitude! Greetings Tobias
Hey Tobias. Thank you, I’ll
Hopefully get something up there soon enough
Am I the only one who verbally announced “check square!” When “say it” popped up? No?… just me?…
Love the work, Dainsey!
Yes!!! Thank you for acknowledging that gag lol
I enjoyed watching the evolution of the Marion and your shop. I will be moving and having to set a new shop in the next 12-18 months so I look forward to stealing ideas from your videos. Thanks for another great video.
Cheers mate. I’m thinking a deep dive shop tour may be in the cards soon for the other channel. I hope to share plenty of ideas, and all the best with the new shop fun Dryer
And also if you live here in the US I'm sure there is pawn shops around there is here in the US and I'm sure they're in other countries to you can find really good tools really cheap just got a boss jigsaw cost $200 at home Depot got it for 40 bucks at the pawn shop
here's crazy idea could have expanded or build second shed don't need council approval for garden sheds or expansions to existing sheds would give some where better suited for cnc and engraver plus extra wood storage for when good pallets are scarce. sure your your work would be worth the investment into bigger working space. i got started 18 months ago skills aren't there yet to starting selling stuff but maybe one living an hr from nearest town will make things harder
I hear ya mate. I did consider a little CNC laser shed 🤣 All good though! I’ll find a way. Cheers
You’re getting so fancy
🤣 am I
Vey nice again. I am working on some Dainsey inspirered projects at the moment and they are turning out fine. All pallet wood.
Perfect. You can’t go wrong to be honest lol
Love your videos! Im starting to do some pallet projects but in not sure how to tell is a pallet is pine or some kind of hardwood. Do you have any tips to tell de difference?
I love your channel. It has given me a bit of an obsession for wood work and haven’t even really started yet but would love to know about your dust extraction?
Awesome mate, I am running a 2HP system with a DIY cyclone. I plan on going right into dust on the new channel. Cheers
Mark! The rubbish weather has me down in my cellar making a palace of pallets! my latest is a bird feeding table! Will video it soon! On your new channel, can you give us a tutorial on table saws and jigs for them?
Hello, you should be in the cellar with all weather 🤣 I’ll go through a few of jigs in a tour. Hopefully some time this year
@@dainermadeOh I have a big garden to tend, leaves to sweep etc, plus grabbing that Vitamin D before the dark comes. Hey in our town they sell a relatively cheap 100 Euro table saw or a 280 Euro saw. Is it possible to do much with a cheaper one?
One option to go for instead of a miter saw, is a quality miter gauge for your table saw. Don’t have to break the bank with a super deluxe one that makes toast and walks the dog either. Even Incra has wallet friendly ones that are very accurate. Can also make a miter sled for the table saw.
Only downside is that cutting long stock can be a bit of a pain in the ass. And it’s not as speedy as a miter saw. Pros and cons.
I’m pretty sure I’m about to discover the pros and cons very quickly 🤣 I’ll be keen for a good mitre gauge on the new saw
Excellent! The skateboard shaped bench is well crafted & easy on the eyes. I really like the mitered apron underneath with the "Jasper Makes" inspired double-cut corner tenons. I too, have contemplated nixing the chop saw, that well made table saw sled has made me less dependent on the chop saw for cross-cut operations. The only thing I've found in working with pine: it does put considerably more pitch on saw & thicknesser blades. See you next time mate!
Thank you very much! Sorry what it pitch on the saw mean?
@@dainermade good morning Mate: pine tree pitch?
Also known as “pitch”, tree resin is thicker, tackier, and darker than tree sap. [Deciduous trees do not make resin.] Usually collects on backside of saw teeth & router bits, & on space between thicknesser blades & frogs. Easily cleans with CMT FORMULA 2050 BLADE & BIT CLEANER [or some say SimpleGreen]. Tends to ‘make’ burn marks appear more readily from tool blades.
Said pallet would not come with the D Kelly scent though, which one would think is now associated with your pallets
He is to busy swanning around. And by that I mean working 🤣
also what bit in the router to "plain" the glued up wood off with?
Hi, great videos. May I ask what glue and filler you use?
Also a hand planer does really good to move material I make pilot tables myself and that's what I use and a belt sander with 36 grit sandpaper does
Indeed. I blew a couple of those up early on haha
Looking forward to you and Jimmy starting a band now 🤘🧑🎤👩🎤🤘
I’m trying to decipher this comment 🤣 help me Mario
@@dainermade it's just two rockers rocking out brah 🤘🤘🎸🎸👨🎤👨🎤
@@woodfather oh. Sorry my brain did not make the link. Imadick
Marion 3.0 is looking great, Mark - just on my way over to sub to your new channel. Only space I have for building is the kitchen and a 3mx2m space in the back yard when the weather allows (space v limited here in the UK) so no space for a table saw but I did stretch to a track saw - and a shop-vac to help maintain the matrimonial bliss on the kitchen days. Keep doing what you do and inspiring us all!
Thanks mate. That is pokey! But if there is a will there is a way. Enjoy
Care to show and tell what you build? I've done a workbench and bird table! :)
@@arcadia1081 My latest build was a TV stand from reclaimed scaffold boards. The boards were cupped, twisted, and showed all the signs of being heavily used on building sites (cement dust, paint, welding burns, etc.). They were too far gone to try to retain their industrial look, so I took more than two days just sanding down the boards to 240 grit, getting rid of the worst of the cupping and twisting (no plane!) and then had my first go at cutting rebate joints with a track saw - not quite as easy as I imagined. Would love to build a workbench like you but, sadly, I'd have no room to put it! I think bird nesting boxes may be a project for the near future.
Cant remember how many times I have been watching your videos! Hahaha can you explain how you use that dewalt thicknesser please!
Hi mate, there is really not much to it. It basically planes the surface to parallel the other side. So a wonky board will remain wonky. Sorry, not the best thing to explain in text
Any tips on braking up the pallets?
The ones in the USA have twisted nails, and can take 20 minutes PER SLAT!..(and that's if you don't wreck the wood)..
You make it look so easy!!..😢
Yes. I have a pallet breaking video
@@dainermade thanks. going to search it out.
Good shit broseph. Cracker of a funky little table. Bit of a shame the extra content isn't coming via an Only Fans but we'll take what we can get 🧔♀️💅🏿
I don’t think people should pay to see me privately anymore. No one subbed up there anyway 🤣
I would almost say it's worth it to build a small addition just to keep the space for that miter saw...i mean theyre so so very useful.
Edit: do you think you could design some type of drop down table for your miter? Or maybe a roll over table? Maybe covert your catch table on the back side of your table saw into a rollover with the miter bolted to it so you can just flip it over when need be? It was heartbreaking seeing the miter get removed for a stupid CNC!
If I get the awning on, a small mitre could come back. Maybe, let me see if I can survive 🤣
@@dainermade good luck brother... I'd be lost without mine
Another great palet video 👍
May I suggest the addition of a cheapo metal detector to save other tools sharpy edges ?
You may 🤣 I use one regularly and have shown it in many many videos. But , thank you
Great stuff. Pity the finished piece wasn't oiled!! Still great stuff. Enjoyed the story😊
Thank you! Cheers!
Table saw the ultimate dream, space and finance not working with my dream.
Dreams can take time. Wish you luck, I sure you’ll find a way
I'd say for those that generally legit just starting I'd go for a good quality circular saw before a table or mita saw quite a lot cheaper and can do basically everything they can do and more while being more portable 🎉 gl woodworkers
Looking at those 'screw down clamps', I'm quite surprised they did not use much coarser threads. It would take less effort to tighten things down, fewer twists of the wrist/arm. I'd also wager they would stay tighter, longer. But wow - so good to see a new video from you!! BTW - you could do a whole video on cutting those miter half joints; I'm impressed!
Hey mate, your right. If they could wind up and down faster, then that would be great. Also I think you may have just given me an idea for the new channel. A few joints I’ve experimented with
@@dainermade Great - just let us know when you start a new channel. I really did like those joints on this project.
Great quick build mate! Pallet wood is great way of testing the market to sell your work, you dont haev to lay down thousands on timber!If they are start doing well then you can quickly upgrade timber and tools!
The other channel shoud be good, more talkey talkey! I like you talkey talkey!
Either way thanks for sharing! Cheers! PS Missed you are the maker meet up!
Thanks V! That correct mate.
Maybe next meetup with any luck 🙏 Talkie talkie or more dribble. Undecided yet 🤣
@@dainermadeFor me - cool tutorials on how to unpack your cheapie table saw and make it cooler. Also that router thingy.
That is cool my friend.
👍🙏💪🇺🇸
Thanks mate
Your videos are good to chill out too mate, question where did you get your pallet remover tool?
I had a mate weld it up for me. They are also known as Reno bars if your googling them
Hey nice video and great tips! Only for a budget i would choose an angle grinder with a velcro sanding attachment. Much cheaper than a belt sander, and also very fast at sanding!!
Great tip! I use that option for sanding broken skateboards
@@dainermade ah cool! I use it for rough flattening, then sand it with a orbital sander
Nice work Dainsey, the first big thing I made in my workshop other than my workbench was a giant wall mounted glueing up board. Its perfect for glueing small bits of scrap wood into body blanks for guitars.
Top tip, ditch the grease proof paper, just use cheap car body wax. The glue will not stick 😀 Just gotta remember to reapply every few months.
That's a great idea! Does dust stick it though. That’s my next biggest problem
@@dainermade yes it does. Gotta keep it covered with a sheet of melamine if the glue up board stays out in the open. I use wax paper as well btw.
@dainermade not if you use car wax, the sawdust just brushes off. But my clamping board is mounted vertical on my wall, not sure if that makes a difference 😀
Have you heard of "cigar box guitars"? They are cool projects!
I must be too agro with the belt sander, me using one is like,
Left,
Right,
Left,
45° angle,
Hole,
Beer.
🤣 it can get a bit aggressive
@dainermade I'm used to using them on sheet metal, woods a different beast, accidentally rock it 0.001° mid sweep and it cuts in xD