For a good overview of the topic, I recomend Najam Haider's article "Contesting Intoxication: Early Juristic Debates over the Lawfulness of Alcoholic Beverages"
Stop spreading distortions about Abu Hanifa, Sheikh al Islam, Rahimullah. Sheikh Abu Hanifa never drank any form of alcohol! Rather, he believed that any alcohol derived from honey, fig, barley, wheat or corn, it is impermissible if used as an intoxicant or if used in vain (consumption). Rather, Sheikh Abu Hanifa argued that this form of alcohol would be used for other purposes, such as an early form of anesthesia. Also, that book you recommended is by a Shia, who has nothing to do with Abu Hanifa's madhab nor with any madhab for that matter.
@@neatwheat Why would you say something like that? His teachings are available to anyone that has access to the internet and reputable sources, or access to a reputable Islamic library. Did I offend you with what I said?
@@wisalal-harthi4898 Takhmeer is the verb. Khamer is the origin and the name. In Arabic it is common to convert a name to a verb. The word Khamer is derived from Khimar (a cover) خمّر الاناء (غطّاه) خمّرت وجهها (غطّته) هذا خمار (غطاء) I hope I convoyed the meaning efficiently.
@@PraiseworthyNobleman Nabidh means Juice my friend 😁 It’s derived from the word Nabatha (extracted of). If you extract juice of an orange then it’s called Orange Nabith. My friend, I’m a native Arab you can’t fool me 😁
Abu Musa reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, sent myself and Mu’adh ibn Jabal to Yemen. I said, “O Messenger of Allah, there is a wine in our land prepared from barley known as beer and another wine prepared from honey known as mead.” The Prophet said, “Every intoxicant is unlawful.” Source: Sahih Muslim 1733
Yeah thanks to the prophey and Muslim for this info, I guess Allah forgot or couldn't manage to clear out what is forbidden with a more general definitive word 😅 .
@@cerenknk Quote "There is a wine in our land" The word Khamr (wine) was used to refer to every alcoholic intoxicant. The Prophet PBUH simply clarified it; Indeed, he is the Messenger of Allah.
@@kab1r Abu Haneefah said: “This is my opinion, but if there comes someone whose opinion is better than mine, then accept that.” Maalik said: “I am only human, I may be right or I may be wrong, so measure my words by the Qur’aan and Sunnah.” Al-Shaafa’i said: “If the hadeeth is saheeh, then ignore my words. If you see well established evidence, then this is my view.” Imam Ahmad said: “Do not follow me blindly, and do not follow Maalik or al-Shaafa’i or al-Thawri blindly. Learn as we have learned.” And he said, “Do not follow men blindly with regard to your religion, for they can never be safe from error.” In regards to the daleel for all these quotes I was able to only find a few. These have all been taken from IslamQA and their fatwa on Taqleed (Blind-Following). And Allah knows best, all praise is due to Him.
As a muslim, I've been to 50+ countries and never drank alcohol. I don't have any urge for it. The whole booze obsession everywhere I go almost makes me feel like it's a superpower to not want it. I sit with friends in bars with my chocolate shakes lol
@@capricik stop this nonsense, that's not true. The prophet himself liked drinking a type of date wine. What's "haram" is getting intoxicated by it, not drinking any alcohol.
Fun fact: alcohol, (wine) wasn't forbidden immediately, but in stages. The Arabs before Islam drank it alot. First stage: it was made forbidden to pray while intoxicated. يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا تَقْرَبُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَأَنْتُمْ سُكَارَى حَتَّى تَعْلَمُوا مَا تَقُولُونَ Second stage: the companions asked about it, and allah revealed:[ يَسْأَلُونَكَ عَنِ الْخَمْرِ وَالْمَيْسِرِ ۖ قُلْ فِيهِمَا إِثْمٌ كَبِيرٌ وَمَنَافِعُ لِلنَّاسِ وَإِثْمُهُمَا أَكْبَرُ مِن نَّفْعِهِمَا they question thee about strong drink and game of chance. Say: in both is great sin and (some) utility for men; but the sin of them is greater than their usefulness. Third stage: يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِنَّمَا الْخَمْرُ وَالْمَيْسِرُ وَالْأَنصَابُ وَالْأَزْلَامُ رِجْسٌ مِّنْ عَمَلِ الشَّيْطَانِ فَاجْتَنِبُوهُ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُفْلِحُونَ (90) إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ الشَّيْطَانُ أَن يُوقِعَ بَيْنَكُمُ الْعَدَاوَةَ وَالْبَغْضَاءَ فِي الْخَمْرِ وَالْمَيْسِرِ وَيَصُدَّكُمْ عَن ذِكْرِ اللَّهِ وَعَنِ الصَّلَاةِ ۖ فَهَلْ أَنتُم مُّنتَهُونَ (91) O you who believe! Indeed Khamr (Intoxicants, all kinds of alcoholic drinks), and Maysir (gambling), and Al-Ansab, and Al-Azlam (arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of Shaitan's (Satan) handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful. Satan seeks only to cast among you enemity and hatred by means of Khamr and Maysir, and to turn you from rememberance of Allah, and from his wordship, then are you done (from khamr, maysir, Ansab, and Azlam)?
As much as I like booze, the drinking ban in Islam always was something I liked (even if it makes it impossible for me to find any date wine). Societally speaking, alcohol causes so much more problems than it's worth.
@@kiiiiooojaevay People do it anyway (and in the case of the prohibition era in America that lead to a rise of syndicate crime), you are robbing people of the freedom of choice what to do with their body and be responsible citizens instead of handling them like school kids, cruel punishments ...
You misunderstood the hanafi school. Alcohol is unequivocally haram. But نبيذ is not unless it contains alcohol. نبيذ is usually translated as wine, but that’s only a modern use of this word. It’s used to describe any drink that was left still for some time. The prophet pbuh used to leave some dates in a cup of water or milk to make it sweet then drinks it. That’s called نبيذ too. And that’s what’s halal, not wine.
He’s just lazy and decided to do research on google for likes and views. He wouldn’t even know where to begin research on Hanafi school or any sunni school for that matter. As they say, little knowledge is dangerous.
@@dammi3138he is actually quote close to the original hanafi view. While wine made from grapes and a few other things( if I remember correctly, reisins, honey, and dates) are haram regardless of the quantity, alcoholic drinks made from other products can be halal as long as it does not intoxicate. One mujtahid imam of imam Abu Hanifa disagreed with this view and later scholars went with that view to prevent people from getting into trouble. In modern times, many hanafi muftis have gone back to the original ruling on the issue to declare deodorants, perfumes, cough syrups, etc, containing synthetic alcohol, as permissible; but they still don't allow their consumption as drinks no matter the amount.
@@dammi3138should I call you lazy for not clicking the video link and looking at his source list? The dude has a masters in religious studies and studies the Islamic world in particular. I’m much more inclined to believe him than a rebuttal that is frankly lazier than the thing you are trying to rebut.
That’s why you need to learn Arabic to learn where the word “khamr” comes from. In Arabic it’s very clear and obvious that it applies to any type of alcohol that “covers” your intellect and senses, not just grape wine.
I was about to say something similar, but regardless, even if the hanafi school says it's not haram, what about the other major 3? It's not wise to follow bazaar fatwas, you'd end up non muslim :D
@@mohamedYasser-yc6xjits not that strange actually, its a valid opinion according to Ahlul Lughah: الخمر وهي عصير العنب إذا غلى واشتد وقذف بالزبد وهو المعروف عند أهل اللغة وأهل العلم, also existed in tafsir Qurtubi: ماء العنب الذي غلى أو طبخ
@@faaizrosli even if the prophet peace be upon him said: ليكونن من أمتي أقوام يستحلون الحر والحرير والخمر والمعازف، There will be people from my nation who will regard silk, wine, musical instruments, and other things as permissible. the prophet PBUH also states:كل مسكر خمر، وكل مسكر حرام. Every intoxicant is wine, and every intoxicant is forbidden. so the prophet explained that ALL intoxicant are wine the word for wine is خمر khamr the same word that was being explained. so every intoxicant is regearded as khamr and they are all haram to drink. even the tiniest sip is haram the prophet PBUB said: وما أسكر كثيره فقليله حرام Whatever intoxicates in large amounts, a small amount of it is forbidden. meaning if an intoxicant makes you intoxicated when drinking large amounts of it, the small amounts of it is haram so the prophet identifies خمر as any intoxicant soo no all intoxicants are Haram
i think then the question should be "Did any scholar in Islam permit alchohol" rather than "was it always forbidden" because Islam existed before the Hanafi school of thought as well
God doesn’t forbid. Otherwise, Iraq wouldn’t have created anesthesia. Take the so called scholars with a grain of salt. These people have never been too physically active to realize that the human body itself produces effects of being drunk.
@@meatrealwishes It's clearly forbidden in the Quran. You don't seem to have much knowledge of Islam. Anesthesia and drinking are two completely different things.
Well the body csm produce similar effects in some circumstances but thats not a valid argument so dont even entertain them. E.g the body by itself can cause a heart attack, then should we take a drug thst caudes a heart attack?@SabeerAbdulla
@@harshwardhansingh6433who told you that? We do. IS!S isn't Islam. IS!S is pure terror and anti-other religions despite not being true Muslims. Don't associate terrorists with Muslims.
@@harshwardhansingh6433 we are told to be respectful to other people despite their religion, what you are not talking about is not part of Islam and so should not be associated with it.
@@msi_i_chad3061 people define religion, its also doubtful whether early muslim respected other religions or not as one narration of abu bakar is that he would tell al-lat worshipers to "suck their goddess's clitoris"
Well it's harmful for your health and can cause addictions but it's not like you can lose control of your actions unless you're very heavily intoxicated. And it's not like you lose your mind fully either
@@MrDaBaKanope, not all the time. It can actually have the opposite effect. In a society where drinking is permissible, there is also a heavy focus on the dangers of drinking. Like drinking and driving, public intoxication, alcohol poisoning, addiction and more. So even the nations which allow drinking, also acknowledge and create laws in order to prevent the dangerous outcomes of it. Learning about the dangerous outcomes of alcohol, actually helped to steer me away from consuming it. I don’t drink at all and I grew up in a nation where drinking was encouraged. I saw first hand and learned about the dangers outcomes alcoholism can cause in a society, which influenced my opinion on how safe alcohol is for me to consume.
Thank Allah for his guidance on alcohol.Started drinking as a teenager. Islam entered my life ,slowly but surely no more alcohol.So for over 45 years no alcohol.I have to thank Allah for that.Dont know how many family ,social ,health and mental problems were avoided
I understand where you're coming from, but I don't think the opinion of Abu Hanifah is a part of that. While it may be obvious to us what "alcohol" meant, the word khamr (خمر) has a root meaning just like any other arabic word. This is well known between masters of the arabic language, and Abu Hanifa was one of them. This is stated in multiple books: الخمر وهي عصير العنب إذا غلى واشتد وقذف بالزبد وهو المعروف عند أهل اللغة وأهل العلم
I think a Saudi Sheikh was saying rootbeer is okay. I can't say for sure what he was saying, but my memory is saying that he did say something along those lines. F*ck !
I can remember when I took my Shahada. Brother from several different countries told me to not be judgemental,just have faith in Allah(swt).With them not knowing,just 2yrs before,I had that "disease" with D&A. That was over 32 yrs ago. I've trusted in Allah(swt),and nothing but mostly great things has happened to me. Subhan Allah Alhumdulillah Ameen.
Two points to mention here: 1- whatever makes you intoxicated (even if you drink a little where you don't get drunk) is automatically haram (booze, weed, drugs) 2- 1st verse that came down regarding alcohol came to say that it had benefits and negatives, and the negatives are more, 2nd verse was to not approach prayer while drunk, 3rd verse was to not drink at all. Regarding hanafi, nearly all people in that school believe that all kinds of booze are haram.
Whatever you may think about Islam you have to admit that alcohol destroys lives and you can't put Islam in a negative light for banning something like that
The quran didn't prohibitions alcohol but the fiqh did. The quran says to stay away and not come to prayer when drunk. Also that alcohol is negative in general but still does not prohibit it unlike earing pork is fully prohibited in the quran.
Distinguish between "khmr خمر"and "nabeez نبیذ". Khmr was allowed in meccan period of prophet but told in quran that there are benefits and disadvantages in it. Later on , it was regarded as not allowed during prayer times . And lastly in medina it was regarded as haram and punishment of 40 lashes was enforced in prophet' life and then 80 in caliph umer period. It is crime of " hadood" category . Nabeez is allowed but disliked by all faqihs and jurists. Nobody regraded nabeez as haram. Nabeez is "Date syrup ".
How is it disliked by jurists and scholars when it is the sunnah drink of the prophet. However there is caution in letting the dates sit for too long like over 6-12 hours as then the fermentation process can start. Nabeez is actually encouraged
@@amaanrafiq3801 drinking nabeez is sunnah of prophet demands authenticity. Disliked is poor translation of Makrooh . Allowed or Mabaah near hanfis but makrooh near shafis. نہ انکاری کنم نہ ای کاری کنم۔ Means neither i regard it as banned nor i consume it. Same like Samaa سماع.
Nabeeth or naveez is not date syrap. It is a process of adsing water to your fruit and let it sit for a while as long as it does not forment and become alcohol.
Anything that intoxicates you is haram, and if the amount is that it will intoxicate you or if your intention is to intoxicate yourself ie. In this case get drunk, then it’s haram. For example oranges contain alcohol however you don’t get drunk by eating them and you normally don’t have the intention to get drunk by esting these
@@cameronmoughton9933most fruit contains alcohol in very small amounts. You can actually get drunk eating overripe fruit. Fermentation happens in the fruit. Natural yeast eats the fructose (sugar)in fruit and creates alcohol as a byproduct.
@@cameronmoughton9933 the alcohol in fresh fruits is so diluted that you cannot have any effects in any amount that you eat. Even if you eat until you throw up, it will not intoxicate because the concentration is so small.
@@cameronmoughton9933 you’re right, but other foods do: „Many lemonades, ginger beers, kombuchas, fruit juices and even vinegar, bananas, bread and other foodstuffs contain up to 0.5% alcohol by volume (alc./vol.).“
Then fruit should also not be eaten because it contains alcohol as well look it up. Anyway Turkey is a good example, 73 million people the most advanced muslim country in the world and they drink alcohol and nothing goes wrong there. You could learn a lot from them.
@@user-tn4nr5hm6u why is it a common trend for people to come up with lies to contradict islam. Fresh fruit does not contain any alcohol not even in small amount. I think you’ve been eating rotten fruit all your life.
@@halalfoodtours3673 Arabia is Arab country because Arabs live there right? So that means Turkey is Muslim country since Muslims live there. Turkey is muslim but not islamic (sadly)
But Islamic extremist cause 1000 times More 😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 is it not better they were all drinking after work till they fell asleep and repeat the next day 😂😂😂😂. Like Islam achieved something good .
This is actually still the case. E.g. Kefir is a very popular drink in Muslim countries. And it contains very low amounts of alcohol. It's generally considered permissable because the alcohol content is so low that it doesn't intoxicate and Kefir is very healthy. But there are Islamists who are influenced by things like Wahabism or who are radical with their interpretation who will avoid alcohol in anything from food and drink to hygiene products. I'm from a mostly Hanefi country and traditionally we offer our guests Kolonya, a type of traditional cologne. It has a pretty high alcohol content. Kolonya is used for everything from Greeting guests to pouring out wounds to disinfect them. But once or twice I've seen Islamists discuss if it's ok that Kolonya contains alcohol.. which makes no sense to even discuss considering it's not a food or drink
Also I remember reading somewhere, Alcohol was initially allowed to be consumed during the time when Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam started preaching, however later it was not allowed anymore. I remember reading someone's words, they said "Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam reasoned this as, 'Had Allah made alcohol unlawful since beginning, you all wouldn't have came to Islam' " Even Umar RA used to drink but gave it up completely thanks to Islam.
It's mentioned in Quran and not just paradises There are even barrels lot of barrels of wine that is millions and millions of years old You imagine that ?! And older is the wine the finest it is
The hanafi school didn’t say non grape alcohol was fine if it didn’t make you drunk. It was more like at what fermentation stage does alcohol become forbidden. Hanafis allowed light beers by todays standards that didn’t cause intoxication
Grateful that Islam doesn't allow alcohol. Imagine how horrific a truly Quran following Muslim is, now add alcohol to that, everybody would be in serious danger.
In the beginning it wasn’t because the prophet couldn’t force everything because that may make other newcomers leaving the religion so it was small steps, the first thing is believing the oneness of god then come these stuff.
Forbidden of alcohol is logically for one reason it gets you intoxicated.thwre is no such thing as little alcohol..you can't confine people on little quantities..so all types of alcohol are forbidden and even today drugs like heroin opium etc also fall into this category and hence haram too.
interesting stuff, im from Oman, people here dont drink anymore but they used to before 1970. was made from grapes mostly according to my dad it was made in the following manner (translated from arabic): Grape wine is made in the old primitive way, where the grapes are placed after cleaning them in a clay jar and clay is poured over them, then left for more than forty days. The longer the period of storage, the higher its quality. After opening the jar, the wine is carefully poured onto a cloth to filter it from impurities. It is prepared. The wine that floats at the top of the jar is the best, and as it descends, its quality deteriorates. Usually, the remains of the grapes that have settled at the bottom of the jar are squeezed and the juice fermented in it is extracted, but it is of low quality. This wine is usually called sweet vinegar, to distinguish it from sour vinegar, which is ordinary vinegar, and its method differs in that it does not completely block the mouth of the jar so that the wine in it breathes out and turns into food vinegar, and the pickling period is less than forty days.
Wow, my dad lived in Oman for a long time, didn't know this, maybe my dad might know. But how/why was it allowed? As in were they following what is mentioned in the video or their own rules in some sense?
@@sereysothe.a very widespread among the interior omanis and to some extent among the coastal omanis who were more strict probably because they cant grow vineyards there
Not until someone doing salah while being drunk and causing disturbance. Then our Prophet Muhammad said that Allah ban any drinks or food or medicine or any consumables that can lead to harmful or drunk because it has more bad than good
Exactly, I don't know why people like to put there nose into matters that doesn't concern them. This channel suppose to be about history (Tarikh), not islamic jurisprudence (fiqh)
@logandavis2273 no, I m not offended st your comment .. but I m just saying .. in order to gain viewership and numbers, every other youtuber trying to poke at Islamic theology, becouse they wouldn't get same gravy and spices from poking at any other religions ad they would get with Islam and it's jurisprudence. I was not talking about your comment but responding to this video.
Khamr is derived from the root khamur which in Arabic means to ferment, thus, this word means any drink that was fermented to the point that it has alcohol in it. Also, the Hadith says that whatever intoxicates by large measures than the small measure of which is forbidden... That's why learning Arabic to understand these things is very important.
@@mabokmicin if you drink many bottles which goes under the "a lot part" and you dont get drunk then it is ok, and again the hadith says that whatever intoxicates in large quantities then the small quantity of which is not permissible
Yes, but as was explained in this video, all Arabic speaking muslims didn't make the same interpretation of the word throughout history. In fact, there was a large group that didn't agree with that interpretation at all.
@@virkots this large group is the one that did not want to quit booze lol, Believe me, because they did not make it out of grapes. They made it also out of barley and out of dates and out of honey, and when the verse in the Quran came out, all jars of alcohol were emptied in the streets.
@@alhbagioras no, becuase allah promised those who keep their duty (to Allah) are promised: Therein are rivers of water unpolluted, and rivers of milk whereof the flavour changeth not, and rivers of wine delicious to the drinkers, and rivers of clear-run honey surah 83.25. dont abrogate according to your own desires.
Wait, so the scene in the 13th warrior where Ahmad ibn Fadlan (played by Antonio Banderas for some reason) is like "no can't drink wine" and the Vikings are like "it's Mead bro, it's made from honey" is actually historically accurate?
I am a Hanafi scholar and all types of alcohol as a drink are forbidden in Islam. If any drink makes you drunk and affects your mind, it is clearly forbidden.
Dear, I think you missed the point here. I studied Hanafi jurisdiction and as an Arabic speaker, I can see why you and other people whose Arabic is not their mother tongue get confused. The Hanafi school and all the other schools agree on the prophet Peace be upon Hadith in which he says “What (intoxicates) makes someone drunk in large quantities is forbidden even in small quantities that don't not”. Although this is a roughly translated sentence all the scholars agree upon it, however, the Hanafi scholars limit the punishment of alcohol consumers to the ones who drink any of the types that were mentioned in the Quaran and Sunnah while still forbidding the rest. There are several reasons, but the main one is that the Hanafis don't think that the fermentation process itself makes a drink forbidden but it's the final result. To explain more, some types of food and dishes go through a natural fermentaction process that produces Alcohol in very small quantities that can't affect the mind or the consciousness no matter how you consume it, so it's not forbidden just for having a tiny neglectable fraction of alcohol, while the rest of the schools believe that this natural or artificial product is forbidden in itself” I hope this will help you to get more into the details.
@@q7b663 yeah I mean, taking a narrow non-existant path to make it look like you're "disproving" a religion's belief's specfically suddenly islam only is bias
As a Sharia Law Student I can tell you that Abu Hanifa May Allah have mercy on his soul and his Students had 2 major disadvantages the first they were not Arabs which impacted their depth of understanding of the scripture. the second is that they were living in a geographic area were they had no access to the authentic Hadeeth (The authentic sayings and teachings of the prophet ) which resulted in some unusual interpretations. However, as this school expanded they have started to solve those issues. which is the reason why they adopted the correct interpretation that All of the Muslims believed before them and after them
The quran has the final say on this matter which is that alcohol should generally be avoided but it's not haram. Allahs prohibitions (HARAM): Say, "Come, I will recite what your Lord has prohibited to you. [He commands] that you not 1. Associate anything with Him. 2. And to parents, good treatment Not ill treatment. 3. Not kill your children out of poverty; We will provide for you and them. 4. Do not approach immoralities - what is apparent of them and what is concealed (in the quran). 5. Do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden [to be killed] except by [legal] right. 6. Do not approach the orphan's property except in a way that is best until he reaches maturity. 7. Do Give full measure and weight in justice. We DO NOT charge any soul except [with that within] its capacity. 8. And when you testify, be just, even if [it concerns] a near relative. 9. the covenant of Allah fulfill. This has He instructed you that you may remember. (All from surah Al-An'am ayah 151-53). 10. Prohibited to you [for marriage] are your mothers, your daughters, your sisters, your father's sisters, your mother's sisters, your brother's daughters, your sister's daughters, your [milk] mothers who nursed you, your sisters through nursing, your wives' mothers, and your step-daughters under your guardianship [born] of your wives unto whom you have gone in. But if you have not gone in unto them, there is no sin upon you. And [also prohibited are] the wives of your sons who are from your [own] loins, and that you take [in marriage] two sisters simultaneously, except for what has already occurred. Indeed, Allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful. And [also prohibited to you are all] married women. (Surah al-Nisa ayah 23-24 11. Prohibited to you are dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah, and [those animals] killed by strangling or by a violent blow or by a head-long fall or by the goring of horns, and those from which a wild animal has eaten, except what you [are able to] slaughter [before its death], and those which are sacrificed on stone altars, and [prohibited is] that you seek decision through divining arrows. That is grave disobedience. This day those who disbelieve have despaired of [defeating] your religion; so fear them not, but fear Me. But whoever is forced by severe hunger with no inclination to sin - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. (surah Al-Maidah ayah 3) 12. Allah has permitted trade and has forbidden interest. (Surah Al-baqarah) 13. sin, and oppression without right. 14. That you say about Allah that which you do not know. (Surah al-araaf ayah 33). 'And do not say about what your tongues assert of untruth, "This is halal and this is haram," to invent falsehood about Allah . Indeed, those who invent falsehood about Allah will not succeed'.
Abdool how do you think mo got khadija's father to accept him to marry his daughter? With alcohol, you bet your smelly profit he endulged himself in alcohol
This is a little correction . The hanafi school forbidden being drunk period. The argument was if a person drank alcohol and didn't get drunk is it okay or not, and the hanafi were the only one that allowed it if that alcohol is not wine. For that khamr means alcohol in Arabic, but the argument was that in arabia the only khamr was wine in Abu hanifa thinking. Yet the general idea here is that alcohol can be allowed in the case of medicine or other applications or food and to make room for people to adapt to Islam , which is a hanafi school tradition to ease the laws on people.
I actually stopped drinking alcohol at all before knowing about Islam. I never liked it anyways, but i did drink socially. Regardless of it being forbidden or not, it still does have bad as the Quran states, and the bad is greater than the good of it. But people talk carelessly, as if making haram what Allah made halal was not the big deal, not at all, making halal the haram is as bad as doing the opposite, both have negative consequences, that's why you have to bring evidence for the claims. Salamun alaikum
It's usage is permissable for medical and other legal purposes. Drinks that are derived from Alcohol but later modified or denated looses it's original form hence it can be said that it no longer remains as Alcohol (Khamr)
You could make the exact same argument for driving cars. Should we ban driving because some people don't know how to handle a car and do stupid shit sometimes?
One of the Sahaba was a drunkard. He did many things like, sell the cook into slavery because the cook refused him something. After much drunken silly, mischief. Many asked the prophet ( saw )to curse him, especially Omar. The prophet finally responded by saying you cannot curse one who loves Allah.
Fun fact: the word “Hanafi” originates from the word “Hanif” which literally means “true monotheist” so the meaning of “Hanafi fiqh” which is the full name of Hanafi literally means “True monotheist of law”
Anything harmful is forbidden in Islam. I'm from Oman and I rarely hear of anyone that drinks alcohol, or even smokes cigarettes, because it's harmful. To the person's health, wealth, and society around them.
where are you from in Oman? i too never actually thought people smoked a lot till i went to jordan lol, but alcohol and smoking were very commonly accepted before and during the 70s , my great great grandad owned many vineyards in jabal akhdar. thankfully it has stopped my grandma had to suffer a first husband who was a drunkard but in some weird twist of fate he left her in oman after a month and got into a construction accident in Kuwait
@@ajayghale2079 many things were commonly accepted (back then), yet still haram in Islam. Riba, interests in loans, are haram, yet it's (kind of) socially acceptable, even to this day. Before and during the 70s ignorance was very common, and people might have not known. Thanks to Allah, then to the late Sultan Qaboos, he opened a lot of schools, and people now know more about right and wrong and haram and halal. They are more educated. That might be one of the reasons why it was socially acceptable then. It was still haram, though
I also learned that that's why in Islam you are allowed to have things like vinegar, such as white wine vinegar. Because you can't get intoxicated off of vinegar.
The alcohol in paradise is not like the alcohol of man. The alcohol in paradise does not make you"drunk", dizzy, act foolish, or make you not see right. Its basically a sweet drink.
The principles upon which things are prohibited clearly forbid all substances of intoxication. "That which much of it can intoxicate, then even little of it is forbidden"
It was always Forbidden, if the Hanafis at some point thought otherwise then that's their problem. The reason alcohol is Forbidden is it's intoxicating not what its made of whether grapes or other.
The thing I don't understand is that as far as I know, many muslims are against using alcohol while cooking. If you glaze some meat with brandy (like it's common in French cuisine) all the spirit evaporates. Even children can eat that because it has no alcohol remaining. So if the issue is intoxication then it shouldn't be a problem here
@@jmiquelmbaccording to Islamic fiqh (jurisprudence), if muslims found themselves to be in the situation where they are in BETWEEN halal and haram (also called "shoobaha" in a Islam), it is much safer to lean into halal. In this case, the cooking ingredients involve alcohol but the alcohol has been removed via evaporation, then its best for the muslim to find alternative that doesn't involve alcohol unless it is "darura" (situation concerning life or death). If I'm not mistaken, the same ruling also applies when using cosmetic product containing alcohol
@@RobertGuilman The way I see it, this would be in a situation where you know you might get drunk, there's a risk. But there's no way you can get drunk with evaporated alcohol in food or alcohol based make-up
@jmiquelmb most muslims don't have much knowledge regarding alcohol we don't consume it we don't deal with alcohol in general so most don't really know of there is a chance of intoxication or not, I used to avoid any food cooked with alcohol but since then I learned that it evaporates during cooking and there's no chance of intoxication I don't know if it's the same for chocolate too. So as the other comment said if muslims come across a situation where they are not 100% sure they usually avoid it, so that's why most muslims don't eat food cooked with alcohol because they're not sure and would rather avoid it all together. You have to understand that while most muslims know their religion and teachings they are not scholars and most would like to stay on the safe side so they avoid anything that they are not 100% sure about.
for uses other than consumption? Or, hit pay dirt, in selling stronger stuff to non-Muslims (the majority of populations around the Fertile Crescent and North Africa at the time)?
"This is approximately the time when barley beer and grape wine were beginning to be made in the Middle East. Evidence of alcoholic beverages has also been found dating from 5400 to 5000 BC in Hajji Firuz Tepe in Iran, 3150 BC in ancient Egypt, 3000 BC in Babylon, 2000 BC in pre-Hispanic Mexico and 1500 BC in Sudan." - Wikipedia, and the oldest Manuscript of the quran dates to 645 AD so what's your point?
It doesn’t matter what Hanafi thought. Prophet Muhammad’s hadeeth can’t be clearer: Every intoxicant is unlawful and whatever causes intoxication in large amounts, a small amount of it is (also) unlawful.”
It's not just alcohol it's about any consumable or substance that makes the human unaware of his surrounding or what he's saying in other way if it makes you lose your grip it's unpromisable other way Haram
All alcohol is permissible if one can't find water even with great effort. In the islamic priorities, Life is prioritized over Mind. Alcohol is banned because it harms your mind, but if the alternative is harming your life, then you take the alcohol. This is of course only a last resort, like being lost in the desert and finding only wine, though in my opinion, this situation is way too convenient and unlikely.
@@NovaStrike118isnt that a similar rule to the Ramadan fasting, that the starving, sick, children and elderly dont need to fast (or should be talked into just a minor fast) because they need the food?
@@Rynewulf Yes. I don't know what it's called in English but in arabic it's رخصة. closest translation is like "Permission". But you don't take permission from anyone necessarily. The circumstance itself permits you to be excluded from a rule. Generally, if you have a health reason you can't do an obligation, there will always be a rule that accomodates you. People who struggle to stand can pray while sitting down. People who can't sit can pray lying down. People who are paralyzed can pray with their minds alone. And people who genuinely can't don't have to. Some say that you have to do the obligation despite the pain, but muslim scholars generally agree that your body, health, and well-being are your responsibility, and islam obligates you to take care of yourself, even if it means not doing obligations like praying and fasting, or even if it results in you doing something prohibited. Like medicine that has alcohol, or drugs that stop pain if a doctor is prescribing them to you.
maybe actually read what the verses of wine in paradise before commenting? they all clearly have the adjective description of not making one drunk/intoxicated it's Allah's way to: 1. motivate muslims to be absent from worldly imperfect wine 2. confirm that wine IS a worldly pleasure that muslims should be absent from the only new insight here that i personally take is that for Jesus's last supper he and his disciples were given a feast from paradise complete with wine and with that i conclude that Jesus as a prophet does not drink a worldly imperfect wine but a perfect one from paradise wallahu alam
Yeah, the Law is applicable to this word, and not necessarily for the Hereafter. You just don’t know enough, but yeah, ignorance may sound funny at times
The hanafi school being the largest is mainly because it was politically forced upon the lands that were ruled by hanafi rulers. On a day to day practical level, some of their rules put the followers in a lot of difficult, like not being able to combine prayers nor being able to wipe over socks for wudu.
This is a huge misnomer. Imam Abu Hanifa said that alcohol which isn't khair is permissible in an amount such that if continuously drunk will not cause intoxication. For example, alcohol is used as a flavour carrier in some ice creams. No matter how much of this ice cream you eat, you will never become intoxicated. In this case, the ice cream is halal even tho it has some alcohol.
Yes because Muslims actually first distilled alcohol and used it for medical purposes. Islamic Golden Age was extremely productive time in the history of humanity, full of inventions, new concepts, insights and numerous intellectual developments.
It was narrated from ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: “Every intoxicant is unlawful and whatever causes intoxication in large amounts, a small amount of it is (also) unlawful.”
Hanafis folded because of peer pressure. They were ridiculed and embarrassed by the bullying from scholars of the other madhabs. That’s really all it is
@@fahid3342Have you ever thought to consider that this kafir is incorrect in his understanding of the Madhab? I am Abu Hanifa never permitted grape wine/khamr. He permitted Nabeez/Non Fermented Grape juice before it reaches the fermentation stage. It's not alcohol. You are both absolute clowns.
The answer is no, all alcohol was allowed till before some muslims caused problems and others come to mosque drunk, then Muhammad forbidden come to mosque drunk and some used this as excuse to avoid go to mosque. Then Muhammad conveniently as always receive a new revelation banning alcohol. But not all alcohol really, as you say low concentration of alcohol drinks like beers or soft wine should in reality be allowed according to Muhammad rules.
I think there is a Hadith about the revelations of these verses. How Muhammad was visited by his good friend Umar who demanded verses about alcohol. But he wasn't satisfied with them, so he demanded more and more until complete ban of alcohol was revealed.
@@golamrabbi2778 not really according to Islamic early sources. Muhammad himself drinks low alcohol level wine (~7%, not so low really) after prohibition of full wine and liquors in narrations. Today is totally banned by modern consensus, but not was the case in Muhammad times.
can't remember where I read this, probably one of the translations of the Holy Quran to my language, that one should not be too drunk while praying...also a Somali teacher said to me when I had converted, that one is not expected to stop drinking right away when converts to Islam, it can come later when one evolves spiritually. There are many ways to aproach Islam. It is a science of training the soul and who knows what is the best way for your training not to make you proud.
Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him says: “Every intoxicant is unlawful and whatever causes intoxication in large amounts, a small amount of it is (also) unlawful.” So any alcoholic drink is forbidden
I suggest people to just look to the Nabi Asli video about how the regulation about alcohol evolved in islam. Which indicates that the laws are not coming from God but evolving as muhammad's experience with alcohol use progress.
This is very counter factual. It is very awkward to see people still use arguments in the lines “because it was dessert”. Arabs were consuming a lot alcohol before Islam and many non-Muslim communities living in similar climates still drink so much alcohol. Alcohol’s negative effects on society and overall health is almost always independent of the climate.
@@Ser3456 In the desert the dehydrating effects of alcohol are magnified. Alcohol in moderation is just another type of juice. As long as you dont binge drink you will not even become drunk… Quran forbids intoxication, so alcohol in moderation is fine for consumption.
@@xxx_rotfd_xiii_xii3619 I am a medical doctor and a scientist. I know alcohol is a diuretic. Desert is not warm at nights, actually get very cold at nights. Also, alcohol does not keep body functioning in cold climates. Lastly, the prohibition of alcohol in Islam for smaller quantities is due to a Hadith that states if something that makes you drunk in large quantities is prohibited in smaller quantities as well. None of the reasons for prohibition of alcohol in Islam arguments are dependent on the climate conditions.
@@Ser3456 + Mongols who helped spread Islam sustained themselves on fermented horse milk alcohol that gave them something clean to drink while on long journeys
@@xxx_rotfd_xiii_xii3619 Where did you get this nonsense, We are also told things that are harmful to you in large amounts are prohibited even in small amounts. No one and I mean no one has this believe that alchohol in islam is fine in normal amounts, We are strictly told that it is prohibited.
“A Book of Verses underneath the Bough, A jug of Wine, a Loaf of Bread-and Thou Beside me singing in the Wilderness- O, Wilderness were Paradise now!” Omar Khayyam.
Those are the rulings I personally follow in my own life. I drink alcohol in moderation without getting drunk, just as the early Hanafi scholars, including Abu Hanifa himself, felt was permissible.
@CoffeePaladin disagreeing is one thing, not understanding and doing whatever you want because you want to do so and you find yourself excuses claiming it to be a source is a other thou art still a moron
I love how supposedly the holy book has only one interpretation, but here we find many arab experts disagreeing on the meaning of one single word. Maybe it would be more fruitful to admit that any text allows for a multitude of interpretations, unless written in strict mathematical equations.
interestingly enough the hadith that a lot use to forbid musical instruments is hadith that bukhari put in specific section titled "prohibition of (cant remember type of alcohol)" because lot of people thought it was permitted to drink that type Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: "There will be among my followers some people who will consider dultery (al-Hir) and the use of silk (al-Harir) lawful." [Reported by Abu Dawud, and its basic meaning is in al-Bukhari].
Initially alcohol wasn’t forbidden in Islam, it was only forbidden to come to prayer while drunk but later on in the prophets life, Allah revealed a verse prohibiting alcohol altogether. The prohibition of alcohol occurred in stages as Allah didn’t want to create difficulty for the sahaba.
Intoxication disturbs your connection with Allah. The more you purify, both mentally and physically, the more you grow in awareness of Allah. This is the reason why some things are prohibited in Islam, but generally the rules are still very mild. I believe living a more ascetic lifestyle is the absolute key to spiritual growth
Why do you think Allah is so weak, alcohol is able to disturb a connection with him?
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For me, a non-Muslim person, it´s strange. Jesus´s first miracle was transforming water into wine, so the party can continue and the guests kept dancing. Strangely in Islam, they prohibit wine and dancing. But I don´t understand why they prohibit beer and whine, in fact, back then the people was risking their lives for drinking water (bacteria), drinking fermented liquids (whine, beer) was the only way to be sure they will not consume contaminated water.
Btw Khmar means there is the toxicity that makes you feel crazy and makes the drink taste like crap but in other wines that Muslims made it wasn’t fermented nor toxicated therefore it’s halal to drink it.
In Islam, the consumption of all masticatory (self-destructive) substances is haram (forbidden).يقول النبي ﷺ: ما أسكر كثيرُه فقليله حرام، وهذه قاعدة كلية، ومن جوامع الكلم، فكل شيء ثبت أنه يُسكر كثيره من شرابٍ أو طعامٍ وجب تركه، سواء كانت حشيشةً أو غير ذلك، فكل ما يُسكر وإن كان مطعومًا مأكولًا فإنه يكون حرامًا، وهكذا الشراب.
during the Isra and Mi'raj (the Night Journey) of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), the following occurred: When the Prophet reached the second heaven, the angel Jibreel (Gabriel) presented him with a choice between two vessels - one containing milk and the other wine. The Prophet chose the vessel with milk. Jibreel then said to him: "You have chosen the Fitrah (natural instinct). Had you chosen the wine, your nation would have gone astray."[3][4] This event is narrated in several authentic hadith (sayings of the Prophet). It demonstrates the Prophet's sound judgment and his preference for what is pure and wholesome, over what is intoxicating and harmful. By choosing the milk, the Prophet showed his commitment to the natural disposition (Fitrah) towards goodness that Allah has instilled in human beings. Bukhari
The Prophet is reported to have said: "The lawful is clear and the unlawful is clear, and between them are doubtful matters about which many people do not know. Thus he who avoids doubtful matters clears himself in regard to his religion and his honour, but he who falls into doubtful matters [eventually] falls into that which is unlawful, like the shepherd who pastures around a sanctuary, all but grazing therein. Truly every king has a sanctuary, and truly Allah’s sanctuary is His prohibitions. Truly in the body there is a morsel of flesh, which, if it be whole, all the body is whole, and which, if it is diseased, all of [the body] is diseased. Truly, it is the heart.”
A follower of the Hanafi madhhab is here. In fact, Abu Hanifa meant those drinks that could theoretically contain alcohol, but which cannot make you drunk. For example, this is a traditional drink for nomadic peoples called kumis, which is made from mare’s milk, or kvass, common in Russia, produced by fermenting bread. None of these drinks can make you drunk, even children drink them.
I like this video a lot - it isn't about whether alcohol is forbidden or not per se, but that the discussion and debate around it evolved throughout history in Islamic spaces and even as consensus was formed it shows that agreement/disagreement and dialectic is a valued part of religious ijma. Alcohol has horrific qualities to it and that shouldn't be discounted. Yet, judgment on people for drinking is not the way to convince anyone of anything either, whether for improving health, community, relationship, or spiritual purposes. People are much too uncomfortable and are part of a system that tells them they aren't good enough, alcohol makes socializing easier, then the dependence gets created, and a discomfort is created against those who don't drink (especially if they're Muslim). All this has a root of societies reducing a sense of self-worth and inner light - why would you need to shed inhibitions if you felt comfortable as you are in all spaces?
The way Islam handles alcohol is just genius in my opinion. It is haram to drink it but also anyone who is involved in it is actually cursed. The people who squeeze it or make it. The people that transport it, the people that handle it. Non of the food that are prohibited has this level of punishment as alcohol. Alcohol is evil! Not just that but its prohibition was gradual in the Quran as you can't just say to people to go cold turkey .
Yes alcohol wasn’t always prohibited because the prohibition was gradual during the life of the prophet ﷺ. But since then it was always prohibited regardless of what Abu Hanifa, other Hanafi scholars or any scholars think on that matter. Remember that scholars don’t determine what is prohibited or not. Drinking alcohol at that time was simply committing a prohibited act probably out of ignorance.
By the way, in the old testament "15 And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart." Which is totally opposite what the same god said later in the Qur'an.
For a good overview of the topic, I recomend Najam Haider's article "Contesting Intoxication:
Early Juristic Debates over the Lawfulness of
Alcoholic Beverages"
Stop spreading distortions about Abu Hanifa, Sheikh al Islam, Rahimullah. Sheikh Abu Hanifa never drank any form of alcohol! Rather, he believed that any alcohol derived from honey, fig, barley, wheat or corn, it is impermissible if used as an intoxicant or if used in vain (consumption). Rather, Sheikh Abu Hanifa argued that this form of alcohol would be used for other purposes, such as an early form of anesthesia.
Also, that book you recommended is by a Shia, who has nothing to do with Abu Hanifa's madhab nor with any madhab for that matter.
The Bektashi Tariqah of sufism also takes this same position on alcohol even to this day
@@JohnSmith-hr7fl Did you know him in person? 😀
@@neatwheat Why would you say something like that? His teachings are available to anyone that has access to the internet and reputable sources, or access to a reputable Islamic library. Did I offend you with what I said?
@@JohnSmith-hr7fl Since there is obviously a debate over it. You seem to have a different opinion than the person above. 🧐
Prohibiting alcohol is undoubtedly one of the best things in Islam. Alcohol actually causes many problems
Yes it causes problems... like sugar.
@@silverbullet501can sugar make you intoxicated tho?
@@twi-ait can make you act inconsistently if taken in large amounts, so yes
@@thefirm4606
Just like everything else in life. Driving a car can be very dangerous. Lets ban that too.
religion too
In Arabic Khamr means cover. Anything that covers the brain (Alcohol, wine, drugs, and Cannabies) is forbidden.
Not sure thats really the origin of the word because we also say mutkhamr/takhmeer from the word “khamr” for the process of fermentation
@@wisalal-harthi4898
Takhmeer is the verb. Khamer is the origin and the name. In Arabic it is common to convert a name to a verb. The word Khamer is derived from Khimar (a cover)
خمّر الاناء (غطّاه)
خمّرت وجهها (غطّته)
هذا خمار (غطاء)
I hope I convoyed the meaning efficiently.
totally correct !!!!
Prophet Muhammad drank nabidh too
@@PraiseworthyNobleman
Nabidh means Juice my friend 😁
It’s derived from the word Nabatha (extracted of).
If you extract juice of an orange then it’s called Orange Nabith.
My friend, I’m a native Arab you can’t fool me 😁
Abu Musa reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, sent myself and Mu’adh ibn Jabal to Yemen. I said, “O Messenger of Allah, there is a wine in our land prepared from barley known as beer and another wine prepared from honey known as mead.” The Prophet said, “Every intoxicant is unlawful.”
Source: Sahih Muslim 1733
Yeah thanks to the prophey and Muslim for this info, I guess Allah forgot or couldn't manage to clear out what is forbidden with a more general definitive word 😅 .
@@cerenknk everything is made up by man. the tactic of scaring people from hell is what keeps religion alive
Proof you shouldn't blind follow Abu Hanifa.
@@cerenknk Quote "There is a wine in our land" The word Khamr (wine) was used to refer to every alcoholic intoxicant. The Prophet PBUH simply clarified it; Indeed, he is the Messenger of Allah.
@@kab1r Abu Haneefah said: “This is my opinion, but if there comes someone whose opinion is better than mine, then accept that.”
Maalik said: “I am only human, I may be right or I may be wrong, so measure my words by the Qur’aan and Sunnah.”
Al-Shaafa’i said: “If the hadeeth is saheeh, then ignore my words. If you see well established evidence, then this is my view.”
Imam Ahmad said: “Do not follow me blindly, and do not follow Maalik or al-Shaafa’i or al-Thawri blindly. Learn as we have learned.” And he said, “Do not follow men blindly with regard to your religion, for they can never be safe from error.”
In regards to the daleel for all these quotes I was able to only find a few. These have all been taken from IslamQA and their fatwa on Taqleed (Blind-Following).
And Allah knows best, all praise is due to Him.
As a muslim, I've been to 50+ countries and never drank alcohol. I don't have any urge for it. The whole booze obsession everywhere I go almost makes me feel like it's a superpower to not want it. I sit with friends in bars with my chocolate shakes lol
Good on ya. Your spot on with what you observe. Any amount of alcohol is not good for our body.
Our prophet pbuh told to not Sit a table where they serve alcohol
You really shouldn't be around people where alcohol is consumed
😂😂😂😂 its not correct 😂😂😂😂 any material cause absence of mind is khamr
@@capricik stop this nonsense, that's not true. The prophet himself liked drinking a type of date wine. What's "haram" is getting intoxicated by it, not drinking any alcohol.
Fun fact: alcohol, (wine) wasn't forbidden immediately, but in stages. The Arabs before Islam drank it alot.
First stage: it was made forbidden to pray while intoxicated.
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا تَقْرَبُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَأَنْتُمْ سُكَارَى حَتَّى تَعْلَمُوا مَا تَقُولُونَ
Second stage: the companions asked about it, and allah revealed:[
يَسْأَلُونَكَ عَنِ الْخَمْرِ وَالْمَيْسِرِ ۖ قُلْ فِيهِمَا إِثْمٌ كَبِيرٌ وَمَنَافِعُ لِلنَّاسِ وَإِثْمُهُمَا أَكْبَرُ مِن نَّفْعِهِمَا
they question thee about strong drink and game of chance. Say: in both is great sin and (some) utility for men; but the sin of them is greater than their usefulness.
Third stage:
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِنَّمَا الْخَمْرُ وَالْمَيْسِرُ وَالْأَنصَابُ وَالْأَزْلَامُ رِجْسٌ مِّنْ عَمَلِ الشَّيْطَانِ فَاجْتَنِبُوهُ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُفْلِحُونَ (90)
إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ الشَّيْطَانُ أَن يُوقِعَ بَيْنَكُمُ الْعَدَاوَةَ وَالْبَغْضَاءَ فِي الْخَمْرِ وَالْمَيْسِرِ وَيَصُدَّكُمْ عَن ذِكْرِ اللَّهِ وَعَنِ الصَّلَاةِ ۖ فَهَلْ أَنتُم مُّنتَهُونَ (91)
O you who believe! Indeed Khamr (Intoxicants, all kinds of alcoholic drinks), and Maysir (gambling), and Al-Ansab, and Al-Azlam (arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of Shaitan's (Satan) handiwork. So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful.
Satan seeks only to cast among you enemity and hatred by means of Khamr and Maysir, and to turn you from rememberance of Allah, and from his wordship, then are you done (from khamr, maysir, Ansab, and Azlam)?
There's an earlier much more subtle one
wow interesting
It was a step by step rehab for the people of that time who were so much into 🍷
Everything in Islam is in stages, there is wisdom behind it.
But mutah wasnt in stages was it lol@@VeldinX
As much as I like booze, the drinking ban in Islam always was something I liked (even if it makes it impossible for me to find any date wine). Societally speaking, alcohol causes so much more problems than it's worth.
But banning it also causes problems 😮
In Quran it is the same thing.
It is mentioned that, there are benefits in gambeling and alcohol but their harm is more than their benefit.
@@neatwheatlike what?
@@kiiiiooojaevay People do it anyway (and in the case of the prohibition era in America that lead to a rise of syndicate crime), you are robbing people of the freedom of choice what to do with their body and be responsible citizens instead of handling them like school kids, cruel punishments ...
@@neatwheatbanning alcohol is cruel panishment?, bro are you drunk 😂
You misunderstood the hanafi school. Alcohol is unequivocally haram. But نبيذ is not unless it contains alcohol. نبيذ is usually translated as wine, but that’s only a modern use of this word. It’s used to describe any drink that was left still for some time. The prophet pbuh used to leave some dates in a cup of water or milk to make it sweet then drinks it. That’s called نبيذ too. And that’s what’s halal, not wine.
He’s just lazy and decided to do research on google for likes and views. He wouldn’t even know where to begin research on Hanafi school or any sunni school for that matter. As they say, little knowledge is dangerous.
@@dammi3138he is actually quote close to the original hanafi view. While wine made from grapes and a few other things( if I remember correctly, reisins, honey, and dates) are haram regardless of the quantity, alcoholic drinks made from other products can be halal as long as it does not intoxicate. One mujtahid imam of imam Abu Hanifa disagreed with this view and later scholars went with that view to prevent people from getting into trouble. In modern times, many hanafi muftis have gone back to the original ruling on the issue to declare deodorants, perfumes, cough syrups, etc, containing synthetic alcohol, as permissible; but they still don't allow their consumption as drinks no matter the amount.
@@LITTLE-ROCK can you state one source directly from Imam Hanifa that consumption of alcohol in any form is halal?
@@LITTLE-ROCK view of any sunni imam cannot deviate from islam. The word used in Quran for alcoholic drinks is Khamr, do you know what khamr is?
@@dammi3138should I call you lazy for not clicking the video link and looking at his source list? The dude has a masters in religious studies and studies the Islamic world in particular. I’m much more inclined to believe him than a rebuttal that is frankly lazier than the thing you are trying to rebut.
That’s why you need to learn Arabic to learn where the word “khamr” comes from. In Arabic it’s very clear and obvious that it applies to any type of alcohol that “covers” your intellect and senses, not just grape wine.
I was about to say something similar, but regardless, even if the hanafi school says it's not haram, what about the other major 3? It's not wise to follow bazaar fatwas, you'd end up non muslim :D
In Arabic khamr means only grape wine. But the term was extended to other form of fermented products too by analogy.
@@TheNightsky10as an Arab, that's the weirdest claim is have ever heard
@@mohamedYasser-yc6xjits not that strange actually, its a valid opinion according to Ahlul Lughah: الخمر وهي عصير العنب إذا غلى واشتد وقذف بالزبد وهو المعروف عند أهل اللغة وأهل العلم, also existed in tafsir Qurtubi: ماء العنب الذي غلى أو طبخ
@@faaizrosli even if the prophet peace be upon him said: ليكونن من أمتي أقوام يستحلون الحر والحرير والخمر والمعازف،
There will be people from my nation who will regard silk, wine, musical instruments, and other things as permissible.
the prophet PBUH also states:كل مسكر خمر، وكل مسكر حرام.
Every intoxicant is wine, and every intoxicant is forbidden. so the prophet explained that ALL intoxicant are wine the word for wine is
خمر
khamr the same word that was being explained. so every intoxicant is regearded as khamr and they are all haram to drink. even the tiniest sip is haram
the prophet PBUB said: وما أسكر كثيره فقليله حرام
Whatever intoxicates in large amounts, a small amount of it is forbidden.
meaning if an intoxicant makes you intoxicated when drinking large amounts of it, the small amounts of it is haram
so the prophet identifies خمر
as any intoxicant soo no all intoxicants are Haram
i think then the question should be "Did any scholar in Islam permit alchohol" rather than "was it always forbidden" because Islam existed before the Hanafi school of thought as well
God doesn’t forbid. Otherwise, Iraq wouldn’t have created anesthesia. Take the so called scholars with a grain of salt. These people have never been too physically active to realize that the human body itself produces effects of being drunk.
@@meatrealwishes you have any proof of any of those claims?
@@meatrealwishes It's clearly forbidden in the Quran. You don't seem to have much knowledge of Islam. Anesthesia and drinking are two completely different things.
@@user-xq8qt7ku7qhow about Perfumery and Anesthesia?
Well the body csm produce similar effects in some circumstances but thats not a valid argument so dont even entertain them. E.g the body by itself can cause a heart attack, then should we take a drug thst caudes a heart attack?@SabeerAbdulla
It's so nice to see all of these people who aren't Muslim be so respectful about islam
its shocking to me considering Muslims don't usually respect other religions
@@harshwardhansingh6433who told you that? We do. IS!S isn't Islam. IS!S is pure terror and anti-other religions despite not being true Muslims. Don't associate terrorists with Muslims.
@@harshwardhansingh6433 we are told to be respectful to other people despite their religion, what you are not talking about is not part of Islam and so should not be associated with it.
@@msi_i_chad3061 people define religion, its also doubtful whether early muslim respected other religions or not as one narration of abu bakar is that he would tell al-lat worshipers to "suck their goddess's clitoris"
@@harshwardhansingh6433 our religion teaches us to respect others that worship other then Allah. Don't blame the religion blame the people.
Recovering alcoholic and convert. No alcohol has literally changed my life. Subhan Allah
Haram or not.. I never cared for alcohol just because it’s really unhealthy and the idea of losing control of my actions is terrifying.
Islam is copycat of Jewish and Christian scriptures nothing more than that
Well it's harmful for your health and can cause addictions but it's not like you can lose control of your actions unless you're very heavily intoxicated. And it's not like you lose your mind fully either
Tbh i doubt you will reach the same conclusion if you were born in society where drinking is acceptable
@@MrDaBaKaI come from a society with a big drinking culture and I reached the same conclusions as the commenter.
@@MrDaBaKanope, not all the time. It can actually have the opposite effect. In a society where drinking is permissible, there is also a heavy focus on the dangers of drinking. Like drinking and driving, public intoxication, alcohol poisoning, addiction and more. So even the nations which allow drinking, also acknowledge and create laws in order to prevent the dangerous outcomes of it. Learning about the dangerous outcomes of alcohol, actually helped to steer me away from consuming it. I don’t drink at all and I grew up in a nation where drinking was encouraged. I saw first hand and learned about the dangers outcomes alcoholism can cause in a society, which influenced my opinion on how safe alcohol is for me to consume.
"ما أسْكرَ كثيرُهُ فقليلُهُ حرامٌ"
صدقت والله
🤦🏼♀️
Can please provide the refrence, I'm not challenging you I just want to know
@@Jgol626 face palm is not a reply lil bro, womp womp.
@@tahamuhammad1814 ثبت عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم أنه قال: ما أسكر كثيره فقليله حرام. رواه الترمذي.
Thank Allah for his guidance on alcohol.Started drinking as a teenager. Islam entered my life ,slowly but surely no more alcohol.So for over 45 years no alcohol.I have to thank Allah for that.Dont know how many family ,social ,health and mental problems were avoided
Should be His guidance
The Hadiths say that one day Muslims will call wine with new names to consume it because of the difference of the naming they themselves created
I understand where you're coming from, but I don't think the opinion of Abu Hanifah is a part of that. While it may be obvious to us what "alcohol" meant, the word khamr (خمر) has a root meaning just like any other arabic word. This is well known between masters of the arabic language, and Abu Hanifa was one of them. This is stated in multiple books: الخمر وهي عصير العنب إذا غلى واشتد وقذف بالزبد وهو المعروف عند أهل اللغة وأهل العلم
I think a Saudi Sheikh was saying rootbeer is okay. I can't say for sure what he was saying, but my memory is saying that he did say something along those lines.
F*ck !
@@TheDecodedMatter ofc root beer is okay, there isn't any alcohol in it. We're talking about consumables with alcohol in it
I can remember when I took my Shahada. Brother from several different countries told me to not be judgemental,just have faith in Allah(swt).With them not knowing,just 2yrs before,I had
that "disease" with D&A.
That was over 32 yrs ago.
I've trusted in Allah(swt),and nothing but mostly great things has happened to me.
Subhan Allah
Alhumdulillah
Ameen.
يقول النبي صلى الله عليه و سلم « ما اسكر كثيره فقليله حرام» صدق رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم
Two points to mention here:
1- whatever makes you intoxicated (even if you drink a little where you don't get drunk) is automatically haram (booze, weed, drugs)
2- 1st verse that came down regarding alcohol came to say that it had benefits and negatives, and the negatives are more, 2nd verse was to not approach prayer while drunk, 3rd verse was to not drink at all.
Regarding hanafi, nearly all people in that school believe that all kinds of booze are haram.
any surah that mentions it?
Whatever you may think about Islam you have to admit that alcohol destroys lives and you can't put Islam in a negative light for banning something like that
Meanwhile child marriage and sl@very are good in islam
The quran didn't prohibitions alcohol but the fiqh did. The quran says to stay away and not come to prayer when drunk. Also that alcohol is negative in general but still does not prohibit it unlike earing pork is fully prohibited in the quran.
There are sahih hadiths that prohibit alcohol
@S_goldman_ the hadith is not allahs work. The prohibitions are clear in the quran and alcohol is not their.
Distinguish between "khmr خمر"and "nabeez نبیذ". Khmr was allowed in meccan period of prophet but told in quran that there are benefits and disadvantages in it. Later on , it was regarded as not allowed during prayer times . And lastly in medina it was regarded as haram and punishment of 40 lashes was enforced in prophet' life and then 80 in caliph umer period. It is crime of
" hadood" category . Nabeez is allowed but disliked by all faqihs and jurists. Nobody regraded nabeez as haram. Nabeez is "Date syrup ".
How is it disliked by jurists and scholars when it is the sunnah drink of the prophet. However there is caution in letting the dates sit for too long like over 6-12 hours as then the fermentation process can start. Nabeez is actually encouraged
@@amaanrafiq3801 drinking nabeez is sunnah of prophet demands authenticity. Disliked is poor translation of Makrooh . Allowed or Mabaah near hanfis but makrooh near shafis.
نہ انکاری کنم نہ ای کاری کنم۔
Means neither i regard it as banned nor i consume it.
Same like Samaa سماع.
Makrooh literally means "hated." @@malikakajee4396
Nabeeth or naveez is not date syrap. It is a process of adsing water to your fruit and let it sit for a while as long as it does not forment and become alcohol.
@@yoda55555 before fermentation and becoming alcohal , its still syrup . Syrup is just a poor translation and i could not get better word
Anything that intoxicates you is haram, and if the amount is that it will intoxicate you or if your intention is to intoxicate yourself ie. In this case get drunk, then it’s haram. For example oranges contain alcohol however you don’t get drunk by eating them and you normally don’t have the intention to get drunk by esting these
Then smoking 🚬 is also HARAM seance it intoxicated you with nicotin
I can assure you oranges do NOT contain alcohol
@@cameronmoughton9933most fruit contains alcohol in very small amounts. You can actually get drunk eating overripe fruit. Fermentation happens in the fruit. Natural yeast eats the fructose (sugar)in fruit and creates alcohol as a byproduct.
@@cameronmoughton9933 the alcohol in fresh fruits is so diluted that you cannot have any effects in any amount that you eat. Even if you eat until you throw up, it will not intoxicate because the concentration is so small.
@@cameronmoughton9933 you’re right, but other foods do:
„Many lemonades, ginger beers, kombuchas, fruit juices and even vinegar, bananas, bread and other foodstuffs contain up to 0.5% alcohol by volume (alc./vol.).“
"Whatever substance is intoxicating in large amounts are also impermissible in small amounts." - Hanafi School of Law
Then fruit should also not be eaten because it contains alcohol as well look it up. Anyway Turkey is a good example, 73 million people the most advanced muslim country in the world and they drink alcohol and nothing goes wrong there. You could learn a lot from them.
@@user-tn4nr5hm6u Turkey is a secular country. Not a Muslim country.
@@user-tn4nr5hm6u why is it a common trend for people to come up with lies to contradict islam. Fresh fruit does not contain any alcohol not even in small amount. I think you’ve been eating rotten fruit all your life.
@@user-tn4nr5hm6uIslam forbids what intoxicating, not just everything based on alcohol.
@@halalfoodtours3673 Arabia is Arab country because Arabs live there right? So that means Turkey is Muslim country since Muslims live there. Turkey is muslim but not islamic (sadly)
Alcohol was not prohibited before islam and even during the age of prophet Muhammad SAW people used to drink alcohol
نعم ولكن حرم بعهد الرسول
I absolutely love this channel. I get to learn so many new things.
But Islamic extremist cause 1000 times More 😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 is it not better they were all drinking after work till they fell asleep and repeat the next day 😂😂😂😂. Like Islam achieved something good .
This is actually still the case. E.g. Kefir is a very popular drink in Muslim countries. And it contains very low amounts of alcohol. It's generally considered permissable because the alcohol content is so low that it doesn't intoxicate and Kefir is very healthy.
But there are Islamists who are influenced by things like Wahabism or who are radical with their interpretation who will avoid alcohol in anything from food and drink to hygiene products.
I'm from a mostly Hanefi country and traditionally we offer our guests Kolonya, a type of traditional cologne. It has a pretty high alcohol content. Kolonya is used for everything from Greeting guests to pouring out wounds to disinfect them. But once or twice I've seen Islamists discuss if it's ok that Kolonya contains alcohol.. which makes no sense to even discuss considering it's not a food or drink
Also I remember reading somewhere, Alcohol was initially allowed to be consumed during the time when Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam started preaching, however later it was not allowed anymore.
I remember reading someone's words, they said "Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam reasoned this as, 'Had Allah made alcohol unlawful since beginning, you all wouldn't have came to Islam' "
Even Umar RA used to drink but gave it up completely thanks to Islam.
It's forbidden in Quran, so it's forbidden 🤷♂️
And if it's forbidden in Quran no one can make it halal with their opinion
The ironically it is set that in paradises there are rivers of alcohol
@@islammehmeov2334 source please...
@@islammehmeov2334 yeah it's forbidden here not in paradises
@@user-yp2sc1cy1n it's mentioned in Quran
It's mentioned in Quran and not just paradises
There are even barrels lot of barrels of wine that is millions and millions of years old
You imagine that ?! And older is the wine the finest it is
The hanafi school didn’t say non grape alcohol was fine if it didn’t make you drunk. It was more like at what fermentation stage does alcohol become forbidden. Hanafis allowed light beers by todays standards that didn’t cause intoxication
Grateful that Islam doesn't allow alcohol. Imagine how horrific a truly Quran following Muslim is, now add alcohol to that, everybody would be in serious danger.
In the beginning it wasn’t because the prophet couldn’t force everything because that may make other newcomers leaving the religion so it was small steps, the first thing is believing the oneness of god then come these stuff.
Forbidden of alcohol is logically for one reason it gets you intoxicated.thwre is no such thing as little alcohol..you can't confine people on little quantities..so all types of alcohol are forbidden and even today drugs like heroin opium etc also fall into this category and hence haram too.
interesting stuff, im from Oman, people here dont drink anymore but they used to before 1970. was made from grapes mostly according to my dad it was made in the following manner (translated from arabic):
Grape wine is made in the old primitive way, where the grapes are placed after cleaning them in a clay jar and clay is poured over them, then left for more than forty days. The longer the period of storage, the higher its quality. After opening the jar, the wine is carefully poured onto a cloth to filter it from impurities. It is prepared. The wine that floats at the top of the jar is the best, and as it descends, its quality deteriorates. Usually, the remains of the grapes that have settled at the bottom of the jar are squeezed and the juice fermented in it is extracted, but it is of low quality.
This wine is usually called sweet vinegar, to distinguish it from sour vinegar, which is ordinary vinegar, and its method differs in that it does not completely block the mouth of the jar so that the wine in it breathes out and turns into food vinegar, and the pickling period is less than forty days.
that's insanely interesting. I never knew that. back then, how common or accepted was it to drink this grape wine?
Wow, my dad lived in Oman for a long time, didn't know this, maybe my dad might know. But how/why was it allowed? As in were they following what is mentioned in the video or their own rules in some sense?
1970s wasn't that the year you were forced to ban slaverly in oman
in Pakistan, Muhammad Ali Jinnah and Laiqat Ali Khan were known to drink.
@@sereysothe.a very widespread among the interior omanis and to some extent among the coastal omanis who were more strict probably because they cant grow vineyards there
That's Nabidh not Khamr 😊 you got it wrong, Nabidh is fermented wine that doesn't turned to Khamr yet😅
But it contains alcohol as well.
I think he's talking about what was historically considered Khamr
@@seletarroots3258khamr is not alcohol
The Bible taught that drunkenness was a sin and unwise in many of passages, but drinking alcohol was not forbidden.
Not until someone doing salah while being drunk and causing disturbance. Then our Prophet Muhammad said that Allah ban any drinks or food or medicine or any consumables that can lead to harmful or drunk because it has more bad than good
Bro was like there is a loophole
Exactly, I don't know why people like to put there nose into matters that doesn't concern them. This channel suppose to be about history (Tarikh), not islamic jurisprudence (fiqh)
@@abdullahalraithe history of Islamic Fiqh is most certainly within the scope of this channel.
@@abdullahalrai why are you offended tho? It's cool. I was talking about Imam Abu Hanifa finding a loophole.
@logandavis2273 no, I m not offended st your comment .. but I m just saying .. in order to gain viewership and numbers, every other youtuber trying to poke at Islamic theology, becouse they wouldn't get same gravy and spices from poking at any other religions ad they would get with Islam and it's jurisprudence. I was not talking about your comment but responding to this video.
@@qrx4057it’s not a loophole. Imam Abu knowledge used the best of his knowledge to derive a ruling and he did not have any bad intentions
Khamr is derived from the root khamur which in Arabic means to ferment, thus, this word means any drink that was fermented to the point that it has alcohol in it. Also, the Hadith says that whatever intoxicates by large measures than the small measure of which is forbidden... That's why learning Arabic to understand these things is very important.
So by your definition kombucha is haram? It's has alcohol although it's not intoxicating
@@mabokmicin if you drink many bottles which goes under the "a lot part" and you dont get drunk then it is ok, and again the hadith says that whatever intoxicates in large quantities then the small quantity of which is not permissible
Yes, but as was explained in this video, all Arabic speaking muslims didn't make the same interpretation of the word throughout history. In fact, there was a large group that didn't agree with that interpretation at all.
@@virkots this large group is the one that did not want to quit booze lol, Believe me, because they did not make it out of grapes. They made it also out of barley and out of dates and out of honey, and when the verse in the Quran came out, all jars of alcohol were emptied in the streets.
@@alhbagioras no, becuase allah promised those who keep their duty
(to Allah) are promised: Therein
are rivers of water unpolluted,
and rivers of milk whereof the
flavour changeth not, and rivers
of wine delicious to the drinkers,
and rivers of clear-run honey surah 83.25. dont abrogate according to your own desires.
Wait, so the scene in the 13th warrior where Ahmad ibn Fadlan (played by Antonio Banderas for some reason) is like "no can't drink wine" and the Vikings are like "it's Mead bro, it's made from honey" is actually historically accurate?
I am a Hanafi scholar and all types of alcohol as a drink are forbidden in Islam. If any drink makes you drunk and affects your mind, it is clearly forbidden.
I know Muslims who use vanilla, which is at least 40% alcohol.
i dont think ive ever gotten drunk from downing a tub of vanilla ice cream before
who the hell just chugs vanilla extract?
The Bektashi tariqah of sufism also takes this same position on alcohol even to this day
Dear,
I think you missed the point here.
I studied Hanafi jurisdiction and as an Arabic speaker, I can see why you and other people whose Arabic is not their mother tongue get confused. The Hanafi school and all the other schools agree on the prophet Peace be upon Hadith in which he says “What (intoxicates) makes someone drunk in large quantities is forbidden even in small quantities that don't not”. Although this is a roughly translated sentence all the scholars agree upon it, however, the Hanafi scholars limit the punishment of alcohol consumers to the ones who drink any of the types that were mentioned in the Quaran and Sunnah while still forbidding the rest. There are several reasons, but the main one is that the Hanafis don't think that the fermentation process itself makes a drink forbidden but it's the final result. To explain more, some types of food and dishes go through a natural fermentaction process that produces Alcohol in very small quantities that can't affect the mind or the consciousness no matter how you consume it, so it's not forbidden just for having a tiny neglectable fraction of alcohol, while the rest of the schools believe that this natural or artificial product is forbidden in itself”
I hope this will help you to get more into the details.
You wrong.
Qur'an says don't even go near intocsicants.
Qur'an supersedes everything on earth.
It's been months since there was any non-Islamic content. A little more variety and a little less bias would be appreciated.
bias?
@@q7b663 yeah I mean, taking a narrow non-existant path to make it look like you're "disproving" a religion's belief's specfically suddenly islam only is bias
Islam is his academic specialty
Let's Talk Islam would honestly be a preferable name at this point.
That's why it's called paradise where we can enjoy what is banned here
As a Sharia Law Student I can tell you that Abu Hanifa May Allah have mercy on his soul and his Students had 2 major disadvantages the first they were not Arabs which impacted their depth of understanding of the scripture. the second is that they were living in a geographic area were they had no access to the authentic Hadeeth (The authentic sayings and teachings of the prophet ) which resulted in some unusual interpretations. However, as this school expanded they have started to solve those issues. which is the reason why they adopted the correct interpretation that All of the Muslims believed before them and after them
Jazakallahu khair
The quran has the final say on this matter which is that alcohol should generally be avoided but it's not haram.
Allahs prohibitions (HARAM): Say, "Come, I will recite what your Lord has prohibited to you. [He commands] that you not
1. Associate anything with Him.
2. And to parents, good treatment Not ill treatment.
3. Not kill your children out of poverty; We will provide for you and them.
4. Do not approach immoralities - what is apparent of them and what is concealed (in the quran).
5. Do not kill the soul which Allah has forbidden [to be killed] except by [legal] right.
6. Do not approach the orphan's property except in a way that is best until he reaches maturity.
7. Do Give full measure and weight in justice. We DO NOT charge any soul except [with that within] its capacity.
8. And when you testify, be just, even if [it concerns] a near relative.
9. the covenant of Allah fulfill. This has He instructed you that you may remember. (All from surah Al-An'am ayah 151-53).
10. Prohibited to you [for marriage] are your mothers, your daughters, your sisters, your father's sisters, your mother's sisters, your brother's daughters, your sister's daughters, your [milk] mothers who nursed you, your sisters through nursing, your wives' mothers, and your step-daughters under your guardianship [born] of your wives unto whom you have gone in. But if you have not gone in unto them, there is no sin upon you. And [also prohibited are] the wives of your sons who are from your [own] loins, and that you take [in marriage] two sisters simultaneously, except for what has already occurred. Indeed, Allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful. And [also prohibited to you are all] married women. (Surah al-Nisa ayah 23-24
11. Prohibited to you are dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah, and [those animals] killed by strangling or by a violent blow or by a head-long fall or by the goring of horns, and those from which a wild animal has eaten, except what you [are able to] slaughter [before its death], and those which are sacrificed on stone altars, and [prohibited is] that you seek decision through divining arrows. That is grave disobedience. This day those who disbelieve have despaired of [defeating] your religion; so fear them not, but fear Me. But whoever is forced by severe hunger with no inclination to sin - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. (surah Al-Maidah ayah 3)
12. Allah has permitted trade and has forbidden interest. (Surah Al-baqarah)
13. sin, and oppression without right.
14. That you say about Allah that which you do not know. (Surah al-araaf ayah 33). 'And do not say about what your tongues assert of untruth, "This is halal and this is haram," to invent falsehood about Allah . Indeed, those who invent falsehood about Allah will not succeed'.
Anything that intoxicates u is prohibited in islam
They abstain from alcohol and they still treat their women like pets 😔
You fool you people are the worst
The prophet (pbuh) never drank a sip of any alcohol so it's safe to assume that all alcohol consumption is Haram
I think this video proves its halal.
I’m off to the pub!
@@NoLefTurnUnStoned. no no no don`t please. May Allah forgive you for you sins I will make Dua for you if you drink
Abdool how do you think mo got khadija's father to accept him to marry his daughter? With alcohol, you bet your smelly profit he endulged himself in alcohol
@@NoLefTurnUnStoned.to be honest, you'd go there even if it was haram, which it is
@@minestar2247
Actually I’m not Muslim and I don’t drink.
This is a little correction .
The hanafi school forbidden being drunk period.
The argument was if a person drank alcohol and didn't get drunk is it okay or not, and the hanafi were the only one that allowed it if that alcohol is not wine.
For that khamr means alcohol in Arabic, but the argument was that in arabia the only khamr was wine in Abu hanifa thinking.
Yet the general idea here is that alcohol can be allowed in the case of medicine or other applications or food and to make room for people to adapt to Islam , which is a hanafi school tradition to ease the laws on people.
Alhamdulilah future Ustadh
All forms of alcohol is prohibited in islam.
I actually stopped drinking alcohol at all before knowing about Islam.
I never liked it anyways, but i did drink socially.
Regardless of it being forbidden or not, it still does have bad as the Quran states, and the bad is greater than the good of it.
But people talk carelessly, as if making haram what Allah made halal was not the big deal, not at all, making halal the haram is as bad as doing the opposite, both have negative consequences, that's why you have to bring evidence for the claims.
Salamun alaikum
I am hanafi but i don't drink alcohol at all
Why should u? It's haram as mentioned in the Qur'an, Hadith and clearly explained by the four Mazha'hib.
@@hussainahmedsherpuri exactly
It's usage is permissable for medical and other legal purposes. Drinks that are derived from Alcohol but later modified or denated looses it's original form hence it can be said that it no longer remains as Alcohol (Khamr)
Why call yourself hanafi? You are not a student in that school are you?
@@RR-vg5hg Is this meant to be a question to trap me? 🤣Coz if it is it's a damn lame question not good enough.
Most people have no limits so it's just best to avoid all together.
true
the ones that still do it always say iTsJuStAliTtLeBiTItWoNThUrTmE right before it hurts them or their surroundings directly or indirectly
@@exceed.charge
They say ‘balance is the key’ then they over do it or get addicted and after they get addicted they say ‘I’m only human it happens’
You could make the exact same argument for driving cars. Should we ban driving because some people don't know how to handle a car and do stupid shit sometimes?
@@SanctusPaulus1962 For those people, yes. Should we not follow the rules of the road because we don't believe in them or is there punishment?
In your opnion, which I don't give a f**k for
One of the Sahaba was a drunkard. He did many things like, sell the cook into slavery because the cook refused him something. After much drunken silly, mischief. Many asked the prophet ( saw )to curse him, especially Omar. The prophet finally responded by saying you cannot curse one who loves Allah.
Fun fact: the word “Hanafi” originates from the word “Hanif” which literally means “true monotheist” so the meaning of “Hanafi fiqh” which is the full name of Hanafi literally means “True monotheist of law”
Anything harmful is forbidden in Islam. I'm from Oman and I rarely hear of anyone that drinks alcohol, or even smokes cigarettes, because it's harmful. To the person's health, wealth, and society around them.
where are you from in Oman? i too never actually thought people smoked a lot till i went to jordan lol, but alcohol and smoking were very commonly accepted before and during the 70s , my great great grandad owned many vineyards in jabal akhdar. thankfully it has stopped my grandma had to suffer a first husband who was a drunkard but in some weird twist of fate he left her in oman after a month and got into a construction accident in Kuwait
Does that include sugary sweets, caffeinated drinks and heavily processed foods?
@@ajayghale2079 many things were commonly accepted (back then), yet still haram in Islam.
Riba, interests in loans, are haram, yet it's (kind of) socially acceptable, even to this day.
Before and during the 70s ignorance was very common, and people might have not known. Thanks to Allah, then to the late Sultan Qaboos, he opened a lot of schools, and people now know more about right and wrong and haram and halal. They are more educated. That might be one of the reasons why it was socially acceptable then. It was still haram, though
sadly, here in pakistan, a lot of people smoke, ive never seen alcohol in person but ive seen tons of people on the street smoking, its really sad
Cigarettes Not Okay It Haram But Shisha Are Okay It Halal
While filming in Syria and Iraq I had the pleasure to imbibe in the local arak and wine 🍷 excellent stuff
I also learned that that's why in Islam you are allowed to have things like vinegar, such as white wine vinegar. Because you can't get intoxicated off of vinegar.
May Allah SWT bless Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Shafi, Imam Malik, and Iman Ahmad ibn Hanbal RH
Ameen sum Ameen
The irony being alcohol is allowed in paradise
If it's irony,all intoxicated material is banned due to health hazard,as paradise is eternal it's permissible
The alcohol in paradise is not like the alcohol of man. The alcohol in paradise does not make you"drunk", dizzy, act foolish, or make you not see right. Its basically a sweet drink.
@@ShawnAR25so just grape juice
Rivers of water, milk, wine, and honey 🍯
@@ShawnAR25 So what's the point of it then? What's alcohol worth if it doesn't make one drunk?
The principles upon which things are prohibited clearly forbid all substances of intoxication.
"That which much of it can intoxicate, then even little of it is forbidden"
It was always Forbidden, if the Hanafis at some point thought otherwise then that's their problem. The reason alcohol is Forbidden is it's intoxicating not what its made of whether grapes or other.
The thing I don't understand is that as far as I know, many muslims are against using alcohol while cooking. If you glaze some meat with brandy (like it's common in French cuisine) all the spirit evaporates. Even children can eat that because it has no alcohol remaining. So if the issue is intoxication then it shouldn't be a problem here
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@@jmiquelmbaccording to Islamic fiqh (jurisprudence), if muslims found themselves to be in the situation where they are in BETWEEN halal and haram (also called "shoobaha" in a Islam), it is much safer to lean into halal. In this case, the cooking ingredients involve alcohol but the alcohol has been removed via evaporation, then its best for the muslim to find alternative that doesn't involve alcohol unless it is "darura" (situation concerning life or death). If I'm not mistaken, the same ruling also applies when using cosmetic product containing alcohol
@@RobertGuilman The way I see it, this would be in a situation where you know you might get drunk, there's a risk. But there's no way you can get drunk with evaporated alcohol in food or alcohol based make-up
@jmiquelmb most muslims don't have much knowledge regarding alcohol we don't consume it we don't deal with alcohol in general so most don't really know of there is a chance of intoxication or not, I used to avoid any food cooked with alcohol but since then I learned that it evaporates during cooking and there's no chance of intoxication I don't know if it's the same for chocolate too. So as the other comment said if muslims come across a situation where they are not 100% sure they usually avoid it, so that's why most muslims don't eat food cooked with alcohol because they're not sure and would rather avoid it all together. You have to understand that while most muslims know their religion and teachings they are not scholars and most would like to stay on the safe side so they avoid anything that they are not 100% sure about.
It's ironic because distilled spirits (hard liquor) was invented by an Arabian scientist in about the year 700 A.D.🤣
for uses other than consumption? Or, hit pay dirt, in selling stronger stuff to non-Muslims (the majority of populations around the Fertile Crescent and North Africa at the time)?
You know it has medical use right? Besides Arabs used to be drunkard nation before. Would you care to mention which scientist?
"This is approximately the time when barley beer and grape wine were beginning to be made in the Middle East. Evidence of alcoholic beverages has also been found dating from 5400 to 5000 BC in Hajji Firuz Tepe in Iran, 3150 BC in ancient Egypt, 3000 BC in Babylon, 2000 BC in pre-Hispanic Mexico and 1500 BC in Sudan." - Wikipedia, and the oldest Manuscript of the quran dates to 645 AD so what's your point?
So? How does that relate to the permissions/prohibitions in the Law?
So What Mr Ignorant ? Did You Think All Arab People Are Muslim 😂😂😂
It doesn’t matter what Hanafi thought. Prophet Muhammad’s hadeeth can’t be clearer: Every intoxicant is unlawful and whatever causes intoxication in large amounts, a small amount of it is (also) unlawful.”
It's not just alcohol it's about any consumable or substance that makes the human unaware of his surrounding or what he's saying in other way if it makes you lose your grip it's unpromisable other way Haram
I can imagine that the ruling for low strength beer was ok if one couldn’t find safe water.
Any prohibition can be lifted under extenuating circumstances.
All alcohol is permissible if one can't find water even with great effort. In the islamic priorities, Life is prioritized over Mind. Alcohol is banned because it harms your mind, but if the alternative is harming your life, then you take the alcohol.
This is of course only a last resort, like being lost in the desert and finding only wine, though in my opinion, this situation is way too convenient and unlikely.
When one find themselves choosing between death or other, choose other.
@@NovaStrike118isnt that a similar rule to the Ramadan fasting, that the starving, sick, children and elderly dont need to fast (or should be talked into just a minor fast) because they need the food?
@@Rynewulf Yes. I don't know what it's called in English but in arabic it's رخصة. closest translation is like "Permission". But you don't take permission from anyone necessarily.
The circumstance itself permits you to be excluded from a rule. Generally, if you have a health reason you can't do an obligation, there will always be a rule that accomodates you. People who struggle to stand can pray while sitting down. People who can't sit can pray lying down. People who are paralyzed can pray with their minds alone. And people who genuinely can't don't have to.
Some say that you have to do the obligation despite the pain, but muslim scholars generally agree that your body, health, and well-being are your responsibility, and islam obligates you to take care of yourself, even if it means not doing obligations like praying and fasting, or even if it results in you doing something prohibited. Like medicine that has alcohol, or drugs that stop pain if a doctor is prescribing them to you.
It’s also kind of funny how Paradise is described with endless wine and alcohol when eventually every school of thought went with making it forbidden.
does it say alcohol?
maybe actually read what the verses of wine in paradise before commenting?
they all clearly have the adjective description of not making one drunk/intoxicated
it's Allah's way to:
1. motivate muslims to be absent from worldly imperfect wine
2. confirm that wine IS a worldly pleasure that muslims should be absent from
the only new insight here that i personally take is that for Jesus's last supper he and his disciples were given a feast from paradise complete with wine and with that i conclude that Jesus as a prophet does not drink a worldly imperfect wine but a perfect one from paradise wallahu alam
Yeah, the Law is applicable to this word, and not necessarily for the Hereafter. You just don’t know enough, but yeah, ignorance may sound funny at times
The hanafi school being the largest is mainly because it was politically forced upon the lands that were ruled by hanafi rulers. On a day to day practical level, some of their rules put the followers in a lot of difficult, like not being able to combine prayers nor being able to wipe over socks for wudu.
This is a huge misnomer. Imam Abu Hanifa said that alcohol which isn't khair is permissible in an amount such that if continuously drunk will not cause intoxication. For example, alcohol is used as a flavour carrier in some ice creams. No matter how much of this ice cream you eat, you will never become intoxicated. In this case, the ice cream is halal even tho it has some alcohol.
People in the comments really don't know about this shows how less they know.
*little
The word "alcohol" comes from an Arabic root. What an irony
Yes because Muslims actually first distilled alcohol and used it for medical purposes. Islamic Golden Age was extremely productive time in the history of humanity, full of inventions, new concepts, insights and numerous intellectual developments.
Ok and the US used guns, yet they cry when other people use it on them, what is this logic
Yea, from an arabic word that doesn’t mean the alcohol that is consumed.
It was narrated from ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
“Every intoxicant is unlawful and whatever causes intoxication in large amounts, a small amount of it is (also) unlawful.”
Then water would also be hàràm. Don't believe me? Try to chùg 2 gàllòns of water straìght away, you'd drùnk, or probably diè. So water is hàràm.
@@GiganticMythicalSpaceFishWhale no i dont believe you
@@khireddinearmin5069 It's not about you believe me or not. Lol.
So yes basically. Only the Hanafi’s were lost but eventually found their way. Like you say all the other major schools had a general ban.
Hanafis folded because of peer pressure. They were ridiculed and embarrassed by the bullying from scholars of the other madhabs. That’s really all it is
@@fahid3342Have you ever thought to consider that this kafir is incorrect in his understanding of the Madhab? I am Abu Hanifa never permitted grape wine/khamr. He permitted Nabeez/Non Fermented Grape juice before it reaches the fermentation stage. It's not alcohol.
You are both absolute clowns.
The answer is no, all alcohol was allowed till before some muslims caused problems and others come to mosque drunk, then Muhammad forbidden come to mosque drunk and some used this as excuse to avoid go to mosque. Then Muhammad conveniently as always receive a new revelation banning alcohol. But not all alcohol really, as you say low concentration of alcohol drinks like beers or soft wine should in reality be allowed according to Muhammad rules.
All alcohol is Haram.
I think there is a Hadith about the revelations of these verses. How Muhammad was visited by his good friend Umar who demanded verses about alcohol. But he wasn't satisfied with them, so he demanded more and more until complete ban of alcohol was revealed.
@@golamrabbi2778 not really according to Islamic early sources. Muhammad himself drinks low alcohol level wine (~7%, not so low really) after prohibition of full wine and liquors in narrations.
Today is totally banned by modern consensus, but not was the case in Muhammad times.
@@christiano9693could I see the sources your using and if their authentic or not?
can't remember where I read this, probably one of the translations of the Holy Quran to my language, that one should not be too drunk while praying...also a Somali teacher said to me when I had converted, that one is not expected to stop drinking right away when converts to Islam, it can come later when one evolves spiritually. There are many ways to aproach Islam. It is a science of training the soul and who knows what is the best way for your training not to make you proud.
Its not about alcohol
Its anything makes you drunk is Forbidden
Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him says: “Every intoxicant is unlawful and whatever causes intoxication in large amounts, a small amount of it is (also) unlawful.”
So any alcoholic drink is forbidden
I suggest people to just look to the Nabi Asli video about how the regulation about alcohol evolved in islam.
Which indicates that the laws are not coming from God but evolving as muhammad's experience with alcohol use progress.
its because they were in the desert, alcohol in moderation keeps the body functioning in cold climates
This is very counter factual. It is very awkward to see people still use arguments in the lines “because it was dessert”. Arabs were consuming a lot alcohol before Islam and many non-Muslim communities living in similar climates still drink so much alcohol. Alcohol’s negative effects on society and overall health is almost always independent of the climate.
@@Ser3456 In the desert the dehydrating effects of alcohol are magnified. Alcohol in moderation is just another type of juice. As long as you dont binge drink you will not even become drunk… Quran forbids intoxication, so alcohol in moderation is fine for consumption.
@@xxx_rotfd_xiii_xii3619 I am a medical doctor and a scientist. I know alcohol is a diuretic. Desert is not warm at nights, actually get very cold at nights. Also, alcohol does not keep body functioning in cold climates. Lastly, the prohibition of alcohol in Islam for smaller quantities is due to a Hadith that states if something that makes you drunk in large quantities is prohibited in smaller quantities as well. None of the reasons for prohibition of alcohol in Islam arguments are dependent on the climate conditions.
@@Ser3456 + Mongols who helped spread Islam sustained themselves on fermented horse milk alcohol that gave them something clean to drink while on long journeys
@@xxx_rotfd_xiii_xii3619 Where did you get this nonsense, We are also told things that are harmful to you in large amounts are prohibited even in small amounts.
No one and I mean no one has this believe that alchohol in islam is fine in normal amounts, We are strictly told that it is prohibited.
Khmar and Daru are forbidden and not alcohol... Recently a religious figure in Pakistan clarified this point
“A Book of Verses underneath the Bough,
A jug of Wine, a Loaf of Bread-and Thou
Beside me singing in the Wilderness-
O, Wilderness were Paradise now!”
Omar Khayyam.
Those are the rulings I personally follow in my own life. I drink alcohol in moderation without getting drunk, just as the early Hanafi scholars, including Abu Hanifa himself, felt was permissible.
Your lack of understanding is not surprising
@@rosenbaumquartz Yeah, as it turns out, people can disagree with you about things without them being stupid.
@@CoffeePaladinevery schools have their final sayings by their certain ulema. I'm a Shafie, I follow the final rulings from Al-Haitami and ar-Ramli.
@CoffeePaladin disagreeing is one thing, not understanding and doing whatever you want because you want to do so and you find yourself excuses claiming it to be a source is a other
thou art still a moron
Abu Hanifa drink intoxicant? Maybe you mistook nabidh with khamr
I love how supposedly the holy book has only one interpretation, but here we find many arab experts disagreeing on the meaning of one single word.
Maybe it would be more fruitful to admit that any text allows for a multitude of interpretations, unless written in strict mathematical equations.
interestingly enough the hadith that a lot use to forbid musical instruments is hadith that bukhari put in specific section titled "prohibition of (cant remember type of alcohol)" because lot of people thought it was permitted to drink that type
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said: "There will be among my followers some people who will consider dultery (al-Hir) and the use of silk (al-Harir) lawful." [Reported by Abu Dawud, and its basic meaning is in al-Bukhari].
Alcohol is not fully prohibited in islam you can drink alcohol for medical purposes and experimental purposes
Initially alcohol wasn’t forbidden in Islam, it was only forbidden to come to prayer while drunk but later on in the prophets life, Allah revealed a verse prohibiting alcohol altogether. The prohibition of alcohol occurred in stages as Allah didn’t want to create difficulty for the sahaba.
I will reveal a verse to you now:
"A true super duper saiyan always sprinkles when he tinkles"
Intoxication disturbs your connection with Allah. The more you purify, both mentally and physically, the more you grow in awareness of Allah. This is the reason why some things are prohibited in Islam, but generally the rules are still very mild. I believe living a more ascetic lifestyle is the absolute key to spiritual growth
Why do you think Allah is so weak, alcohol is able to disturb a connection with him?
For me, a non-Muslim person, it´s strange. Jesus´s first miracle was transforming water into wine, so the party can continue and the guests kept dancing. Strangely in Islam, they prohibit wine and dancing. But I don´t understand why they prohibit beer and whine, in fact, back then the people was risking their lives for drinking water (bacteria), drinking fermented liquids (whine, beer) was the only way to be sure they will not consume contaminated water.
Btw Khmar means there is the toxicity that makes you feel crazy and makes the drink taste like crap but in other wines that Muslims made it wasn’t fermented nor toxicated therefore it’s halal to drink it.
In Islam, the consumption of all masticatory (self-destructive) substances is haram (forbidden).يقول النبي ﷺ: ما أسكر كثيرُه فقليله حرام، وهذه قاعدة كلية، ومن جوامع الكلم، فكل شيء ثبت أنه يُسكر كثيره من شرابٍ أو طعامٍ وجب تركه، سواء كانت حشيشةً أو غير ذلك، فكل ما يُسكر وإن كان مطعومًا مأكولًا فإنه يكون حرامًا، وهكذا الشراب.
Alcohol is prohibited because self harming is haram/prohibited
If Quran said its haram, your
opinion doesn't matter.
during the Isra and Mi'raj (the Night Journey) of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), the following occurred:
When the Prophet reached the second heaven, the angel Jibreel (Gabriel) presented him with a choice between two vessels - one containing milk and the other wine. The Prophet chose the vessel with milk. Jibreel then said to him: "You have chosen the Fitrah (natural instinct). Had you chosen the wine, your nation would have gone astray."[3][4]
This event is narrated in several authentic hadith (sayings of the Prophet). It demonstrates the Prophet's sound judgment and his preference for what is pure and wholesome, over what is intoxicating and harmful. By choosing the milk, the Prophet showed his commitment to the natural disposition (Fitrah) towards goodness that Allah has instilled in human beings. Bukhari
The Prophet is reported to have said:
"The lawful is clear and the unlawful is clear, and between them are doubtful matters about which many people do not know. Thus he who avoids doubtful matters clears himself in regard to his religion and his honour, but he who falls into doubtful matters [eventually] falls into that which is unlawful, like the shepherd who pastures around a sanctuary, all but grazing therein. Truly every king has a sanctuary, and truly Allah’s sanctuary is His prohibitions. Truly in the body there is a morsel of flesh, which, if it be whole, all the body is whole, and which, if it is diseased, all of [the body] is diseased. Truly, it is the heart.”
A follower of the Hanafi madhhab is here. In fact, Abu Hanifa meant those drinks that could theoretically contain alcohol, but which cannot make you drunk. For example, this is a traditional drink for nomadic peoples called kumis, which is made from mare’s milk, or kvass, common in Russia, produced by fermenting bread. None of these drinks can make you drunk, even children drink them.
the promised paradise is about sex and wine 😊
I like this video a lot - it isn't about whether alcohol is forbidden or not per se, but that the discussion and debate around it evolved throughout history in Islamic spaces and even as consensus was formed it shows that agreement/disagreement and dialectic is a valued part of religious ijma. Alcohol has horrific qualities to it and that shouldn't be discounted. Yet, judgment on people for drinking is not the way to convince anyone of anything either, whether for improving health, community, relationship, or spiritual purposes. People are much too uncomfortable and are part of a system that tells them they aren't good enough, alcohol makes socializing easier, then the dependence gets created, and a discomfort is created against those who don't drink (especially if they're Muslim). All this has a root of societies reducing a sense of self-worth and inner light - why would you need to shed inhibitions if you felt comfortable as you are in all spaces?
The way Islam handles alcohol is just genius in my opinion. It is haram to drink it but also anyone who is involved in it is actually cursed. The people who squeeze it or make it. The people that transport it, the people that handle it. Non of the food that are prohibited has this level of punishment as alcohol. Alcohol is evil! Not just that but its prohibition was gradual in the Quran as you can't just say to people to go cold turkey .
Yes alcohol wasn’t always prohibited because the prohibition was gradual during the life of the prophet ﷺ.
But since then it was always prohibited regardless of what Abu Hanifa, other Hanafi scholars or any scholars think on that matter.
Remember that scholars don’t determine what is prohibited or not.
Drinking alcohol at that time was simply committing a prohibited act probably out of ignorance.
By the way, in the old testament "15 And wine that maketh glad the heart of man, and oil to make his face to shine, and bread which strengtheneth man's heart." Which is totally opposite what the same god said later in the Qur'an.