Composer Reacts to Nile - Iskander D'hul Karnon (REACTION & ANALYSIS)
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0:00 Intro
00:32 Reaction
07:17 Analysis - The Framing
09:46 Analysis - The Second Trick
12:30 Analysis - Exploring the Rest
14:49 Analysis - Keeping Things Interesting
17:35 Analysis - Variety in Sound
19:02 Analysis - Phenomenal Drumming
23:04 Analysis - Rest of the Instruments
24:06 Analysis - Clear Production
26:59 Analysis - Lyrical Dive
30:42 Outro
#reaction #nile #techdeath
Nile is pretty sick. Annihilation of the Wicked is one of the best tech death albums imo.
My favorite Nile album
Yes Annihilation and Detes are my two favorite albums of theirs.
The first 4 albums are a formidable chunk of metal. And, I might actually like Ithyphallic more than Those Whom...
The drummer is legendary. You should watch some drum cams of George Kollias when you have time.
Unas slayer of the gods is an incredible track, it feels like an old ballad with an entire story contained in one song.
Imagine listening to this live, blew me away! And yea, the drummer also played Jazz.
Nile is probably one of the most consistently great Technical/Brutal Death Metal bands. They have not released a single even mediocre album, only mediocre tracks at worst.
Also an interesting band theme - Egyptian myths and history!
I disagree. Most of their albums are great all the way to 2009. After that they lost me. 2015 album is one of my most hated metal album and I don't think they are going change much better any time soon. Early albums they had brutality, atmosphere, great production and interesting lyrics. Newer albums there is brutality and lyrics. Could as well listen something uninteresting like cannibal corpse ugh.
Nile is great band, can't go wrong with their stuff so i hope to see more of this band.
Looks like we'll be checking out a full album from them eventually so that's something to look forward to.
@@CriticalReactions oooh, hopefully Annihilation of the Wicked!
George Kollias's personal album is worth listening to, specifically the live recordings of some of his songs. The album is called Invictus and a good song is "Shall Rise, Shall be Dead." He can definitely push something close to 16th or 32nd notes on one foot which you will see in this video. It's quite mind blowing.
As an aside, even before George joined Nile for Annihilation of the Wicked, their prior drummers were quite technical and inspired (see In Their Darkened Shrines).
As ANOTHER aside, the vast majority of Nile's music is focused on ancient Egypt's history and religious beliefs, but they also drift heavily into Lovecraftian literature/mythos and more recently (like this song), Islam. They have extremely detailed linear notes that describe the historical/religious details of their song lyrics. Buying a Nile album is a little history lesson in of itself if you put in time : )
George Kollias has a ton of Death Metal instructional material including a book The Odyssey of Double Bass Drumming and he is definitely one of the OG of Death Metal drumming 👌
Nile is absolutely infamous for playing the most amazing thing 😀 For about 3 seconds then play something else amazing for 3 seconds.... After doing this 100 times in a row they have a song 😂👌
hell yeah Nile, dallas era albums are the right stuff, very competent musicianship especially george kills it on drums and they really distinguish themselves with the egyptian influences, melodies and ambiance here and there
p.s the main composer karl sanders also released solo albums focusing more on the atmospherics, no growls, no blast beats, that might be more to your liking, i recommend 'of the sleep of ishtar' from 'saurian meditation'
Yeah i've listened to his solo stuff, enjoyed it.
Dhu’l qarnain means “he of the two horns”. It’s mentioned in the Quran and many people think it’s meant to reference Alexander the Great (Iskander in Arabic). Gog and Magog are also mentioned in the Quran.
Dhu’l qarnain is not explicitly mentioned as Alexander in the Quran.
Went through Nile's discography a long time ago when I was exploring death metal. They were one of the major DM bands at the time and were one of the first tech-death bands to breakthrough to something like the "metal mainstream" (ie, being more widely known outside the tiny niche of tech-death fans). George Kollias is a monster drummer and has been considered one of the best in metal since he joined the group in '05. Listening to this for the first time in probably over a decade I can definitely understand why Nile made that breakthrough: because compared with most tech-death bands that were only concerned with how absurdly technical they could be, Nile still found the space to write memorable riffs that harken back to the roots of DM and even thrash metal. Always found their Egyptology angle interesting as well, and was always surprised it took so long for a band to take inspiration from that. It's good stuff, but is also something I have to be in a specific mood for these days.
Nile is excellent for your workout. :D
It really is
or trail running 🙈
It's about Alexander the Great from an islamic pov. It's quite interesting in my opinion.
This song is so underrated. My favorite Nile song on my favorite Nile album.
You have the whole album to look forward to on the album selection list!
Oh neat. It might be a bit much for me but I look forward to the first half at least 😅
This album is possibly one of the most underrated, intense, clean yet heavy, masterful, bombastic, phenomenal, and perfect technical death metal albums ever written. It unfortunately falls into a gap where purists denounce it for being too modern and too cleanly mixed, and recent comers to death metal ignore it for being insignificant. Nile peaked with this record. Aside from In Their Darkened Shrines with its unmatched guitar tone and grand epics like Sarcophagus and Unas, Slayer of the Gods... this was peak Nile as far as I'm concerned.
9:38 that's one of my favorite things about Nile, like the transition from Dusk Falls to Cast Down the Heretic. It's beautiful and atmospheric and then they just kick you in the fucking face
Great analysis, you hit the nail on the head with their approach to harmony. "As He Creates So He Destroys" with its call-and-response trading guitar phrases talking to each other in high/low registers would be a good choice for a potential future reaction (it's also fun for a different reason: I can promise you that you will be able to understand *at least 60 percent* of its lyrics without googling it, because Dallas is really one of the most skilled vocalists in extreme metal).
Nile is invoking some very deep memories from the Collective Unconscious.
Love Nile, one of my favorites to see live.. i miss dallas though 😞
Yeah I do too !
One of my favorite bands. Excited to watch this.
that snare tone kills
Side note: the Nile Logo is one of the all time greats.
Nile is a very cool band, most of their songs are about egiptian mythology. I'd like to recommend Unas Slayer of the Gods and In Their Darkened Shrines, both are long songs but they have a lot of variety to them (the later is about 18 min. long and is basically 4 songs put togheter).
Nile uses extensively those Egyptian modes and scales. The music really sound like sandstorm in some Middle-eastern desert. Very recognizable.
Very surprised you haven't made a video reaction to Virgin Black yet. I recommend covering "...and I Am Suffering". Love your channel, keep up the good work.
When Nile slows down just a smidge and locks into a groove, there aren’t many better bands out there (for me). Tech death isn’t really my thing most of the time, but I do enjoy some Nile on occasion. “Even the Gods Must Die” is probably my favorite of theirs. Given how you liked the groove section in the middle, that might be more up your alley.
TechDeath!!!😁
I'm quite confident the song is about Gates of Alexander, a legend in which Alexander the Great (from lyrics "Iskander is Alexander / Son of Phillip [the II of Macedon]") created some sort of obstacle to keep the apocalyptic nations of Gog and Magog at bay. The lyrics reference Qur'an and similar story told by the prophet Muhammad. It's a mix of Jewish and Islamic eschatology basically.
One of the guitar players uses scalloped frets that he plays on which makes everything he plays needing to be that much more precise 🙄☝️🤘 I don’t expect anyone to care about this🙄
Are you afraid of the dark theme intro
So, been waiting for Necrophagist - Ignominous and Pale
Sweet, Nile finally makes an appearance here! One of my favourite bands. Like you I do not care most of the Tech death because (IMHO) usually they just devolve into riff salad wankery thats hard to follow but Nile holds my attention. Their technicality is never overbearing and they always keep that middle eastern melodic edge which, to me, makes the intense technical riffs easier to follow and understand. And then there are both the slower, atmospheric groovier sections and faster straightforward Thrashing to ground it back down back to "normal" Metal feel, which is my jam most of the time. I love it!
Check out Karl Sanders solo work if you want just the middle eastern stuff without the metal. No George Kollias though.
You should try listening to presipolis of annubis
This album Nile really started to get into fast modal scale runs (ascending descending patterns) that function as riffs; mostly boring to my ears. Karl had started getting into Rusty Cooley.
check behemoths conquer all live from hellfest 2010
I'm not sure if they are 32nd notes, but Eugene Ryabchenko (plays for Fleshgod Apocalypse among a lot of session drumming work) can do really fast one-footed basskicks and he certainly can do it with one hand. I'm sure there are others who can. He seems to be using the swivel technique and I know there are more fastplaying metal drummer who use this, but I'm not sure if they sometimes only use one foot for faster parts.
I tried to find an example of this, the whole video is amazing to watch (as is his whole channel), but this shows it off pretty well (even if it's very short). I know he has done longer one-footed parts but I couldn't find them.
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That technique is wild, a little sloppy looking but the result is great.
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I agree, it looks wild and I'm not really sure how it works. Krihm (Septicflesh and some other bands as a session drummer) does even bigger swivels:
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I do think that technique might rely on having triggers (to up the volume), but I'm not positive on that. I am not a drummer myself.
I believe he mentioned in one of his vlog-style videos that he uses babypowder for his swivels (probably on the pedals, I don't remember).
There is also a video of Ken Bedene (from the band Aborted) doing swivels Live in Crocs.
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@@MaartenT You don't need triggers for volume, but more for clarity, its usually easy to tell by the amount of beater swing. Past a certain bpm the bass drum starts to wash into the next note and make a muddy sort of sound, so the triggers clean up the attack. As far as swivel goes, it works much like the ankle technique, where your calf muscle is lifting your heel and causing the pedal to strike. The side to side motion is mostly to keep the ankle relaxed and loose so the calf is free to perform smaller, faster hits for longer. It also helps with keeping your time tight at such a high tempo, since the motions all get smaller you get less and less feedback as to what you're actually doing.
@@Kerosian1
Thank you very much for the info!
I am not a musician myself, but I have always been interested in music and drum channels and reactors were actually the first music related videos I started to watch on youtube.
So I knew a little bit about it, but clearly not enough.
@@CriticalReactions Got to add a critical thing that distinguishes George's playing ☝️He is a purist in the sense he DOESN'T do two footed blast beats ☝️He is ONLY using one foot during the tempos of those blast beats so to kinda answer your question 🤔
He absolutely can be seen on drum cam foot cams doing SINGLE FOOT WORK at blast beat tempos of 220-270 BPM
🤷♂️So there is not a tempo he can play on the snare he can't match by one foot...
Totally ridiculous 🙄
Немного напоминает Morbid Angel
Ne Obliviscaris released their new song "Graal". You Should Check it out!
I'm holding off on more NeO until the album drops!
@@CriticalReactions Album reaction?
@@szopolnyica I dunno yet. We'll have to see how that goes -- timing and all that stuff.
Nile are a frustrating band for me. I like their concept on paper, and I really, really want to like their music in practice, but I more often than not find it letting me down. They have the know how to make incredible stuff, but sadly, a lot of the time they just opt for exercises of dizzying speed that just sound frivolous to me, especially in the context of an entire album. They really underexplore their more atmospheric, groovier and moody elements and the speed gets old very fast for me. It's like they're constantly tearing down the great moods they have just set up for no good musical reason. It sounds weird to say this based on this surge of speed, but there is an incredible doom metal band trapped in tech death conventions here.
Since you're seemingly also left craving their groovier bits, they have them in their slower songs. Unas Slayer of the Gods was always the song I use as an example of this band can be at their best, combining the surges of speed with a sense of pacing and atmosphere; it also shamelessely steals their main riff from a Candlemass song (Well of Souls), so extra kudos for their great taste, Those whom the Gods detest from the same album this song was taken from also manages to combine both elements quite well. And for an even more assumedly groovier middle eastern extreme metal experience, Melechesh, especially the Sphynx album, precisely because of the ways the drumwork on that manages to translate middle percussion into a thrash/black metal framework.
We have this exact full album on the list so I'll be checking that out eventually. I wonder if I'll feel the same way regarding the constant groove breaks to shred wildly.
@@CriticalReactions Sphynx is GOAT and Melechesh is the most unique-sounding black metal act, I'm really excited for that.
You should try Karl Sanders' (the guitarist/vocalist, man behind Nile) solo entry "Saurian meditation". It's basically Nile but in atmospheric form, not a lot of metal but interesting.
@@AndyGrouch That does sound interesting. I'll have to check it out
@@AndyGrouch well it's not "basically Nile", Nile is very engaging ;) it's ambient/darkwave with folklore elements, and he released three solo albums, all are interesting, but the last one has the best production