Are Little Light Meters Any Good?

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  • Опубліковано 24 лют 2024
  • More & more I’ve been seeing this little, hotshoe mounted light meters get more and more popular. From Astrhori’s to Reflx Lab, seemingly there’s a new light meter made by every accessory company. Astrhori had sent over their version to test and put through the wringer to see how it holds up. For a preliminary test; I think it did pretty well! What do you think?
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  • @metalfingersfilm
    @metalfingersfilm  4 місяці тому

    Link to the light meter w/ discount code! bit.ly/49hhOOI

  • @photojunky
    @photojunky 4 місяці тому +4

    I recently started exploring an RB67 that was handed down to me by my late uncle, and I’ve really been enjoying the quality it produces, especially for portrait

    • @metalfingersfilm
      @metalfingersfilm  4 місяці тому

      What a cool Uncle! Was he a professional photographer?

    • @photojunky
      @photojunky 4 місяці тому +2

      Yeah he was, and i got all of his gear! including 3 Kowa SIX bodies, , a Keiv 88, and a couple point and shoots . Insane. @ingersfilm

  • @jagerbolt90
    @jagerbolt90 4 місяці тому +7

    I've recently learned how to use incidence light metering, for shots where I'm not trying meter for highlights or shadows more specfically, and I'm LOVING the results! I don't see very many film photographers on UA-cam talking about it though :(

    • @c.augustin
      @c.augustin 4 місяці тому +1

      I see some YT photographers use incident metering now and then, mostly in the studio or for portrait work, sometimes even for landscape. Gives the most natural results on slide film (because of the inherent working principle), and the sunny 16 rule works basically the same. There's not much to it, so maybe film photography YTs don't think there's much to talk about (or think their audience might be bored with technicalities ;-)). (It was and still is used in studio photography; or on film sets to see how many light comes in from different directions, and where to place additional lamps or scrims etc. - maybe those are the videos you're looking for if you want to learn more.)

    • @metalfingersfilm
      @metalfingersfilm  4 місяці тому +1

      I shoot using incidence lighting for portraits with my sekonic. I think it's the best means to go about it. Perhaps I'll make a video using my sekonic when taking portraits and explain my thought process for metering! Would that be of interest, you think?

    • @metalfingersfilm
      @metalfingersfilm  4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, I can't see myself using that type of metering on a subject that I can't approach, like landscapes and what not! Perhaps a portrait metering video is necessary!

    • @c.augustin
      @c.augustin 4 місяці тому

      @@metalfingersfilm Using incident metering for landscape is actually applicable - not so much for woodland … ;-)

    • @metalfingersfilm
      @metalfingersfilm  4 місяці тому

      @@c.augustin Eh, yeah perhaps in broad daylight. But so many of my scenes I'll take, I'm covered in shadows cast by mountains, and shooting a bright, pointed, morning light. Would be tough to shoot it without a spot meter

  • @EddyMaynard
    @EddyMaynard 4 місяці тому

    Great video man!
    iPhone mic is such a good shout for out in the field, gonna have to try that haha

    • @metalfingersfilm
      @metalfingersfilm  4 місяці тому

      Thanks dog! Honestly the first time I had used it, and it was pretty windy! Pretty impressed with the results, haha

  • @c.augustin
    @c.augustin 4 місяці тому +1

    I thought about such a meter (there's another, even smaller one from AstrHori), but in the end I appreciate the versatility of my small Sekonic L-208 Twinmate, which is quite affordable - and also comes with a (detachable) hot-shoe mount. I like the analog reading (different speed/aperture readings on a glance), and that it can do incident metering if I feel like it. Has a modern silicon cell for metering, other than its older, much larger and more expensive sibling, the L-398A Studio de Luxe, which uses a selenium cell (and should be kept in the dark for longevity when not in use) and is best at incident metering, not so much for object metering. (I forgot to mention that I find the small numbers on the AstrHori quite challenging.)

    • @metalfingersfilm
      @metalfingersfilm  4 місяці тому

      I've heard good things about them! Seems like the difference between if you prefer a digital or more "analog" metering experience!

  • @stubal00
    @stubal00 4 місяці тому +1

    I've used my sekonic 358 for tricky scenes.
    Lately, I've been spot metering with my F6 and loving the results.

  • @singlended
    @singlended 3 місяці тому

    The Astr-Hori's shoe mount can be unscrewed & shifted left/right eg for fitting to cameras with different deck layouts.

  • @stevinoname
    @stevinoname 4 місяці тому +1

    Have you ever used any of the Reveni Labs meters? The spot or incident. I use the spot meter for both my rb67 and my F2 and it works well.

    • @metalfingersfilm
      @metalfingersfilm  4 місяці тому

      I haven't! It looks pretty sweet, but quite expensive for seemingly a 3D printed piece of equipment.

  • @khanscombe619
    @khanscombe619 3 місяці тому

    Meters: I use Gossen meters overall & Minolta Flash Meter. The little Voigtlander VC-II mini is same profile as that 1 & is every bit reliable as any good in camera CDC cell of u know how to aim. It’s equivalent to a 70mm angle of view reflective. Use a gray card and it’s spot on.
    Additionally, I will even use the Nikon in camera Matrix & Spot w/ 70mm lens & it feels like a 1° spot

  • @robbiemer8178
    @robbiemer8178 4 місяці тому

    I think these new small meters are very good to have. They are pretty much a new incarnation of a meter type that has been around a long time. But, since they are current manufacture, they should still work. And fewer of the 50s and 60s era meters are functional. So they definitely fill a need.
    In fact, I want to replace my old Gossen Pilot meter so this one is on my "to buy" list.
    I have more expensive and more capable meters but I don't need those advanced abilities very often. That I can just put this little thing into the hot/cold shoe on any of my cameras makes it very handy.
    All that said, I will always suggest to people that they get a "Black Cat Exposure Guide". These are about $20 US and are a cardstock calculator that covers a very wide variety of possible scenarios and, with use, will effectively train a photographer to recognize what many various kinds of light looks like and how they can set their camera to suit that. Basically a well thought out, written down, and very detailed guide to Sunny 16. Use that for a while, and then adding a decent meter and missed exposures become much less likely I think.
    A little meter like this Astrhori is good because it can just live in the hot shoe and not be one more thing that we have to juggle while also making good photos.
    Some great photos and a good overview, thanks for sharing this!

    • @metalfingersfilm
      @metalfingersfilm  4 місяці тому

      Oh cool sounds like a really legitimate process. Maybe I'll buy the book and translate it's lessons into a video!

  • @StepsAndStoness
    @StepsAndStoness 4 місяці тому

    6:05 killer scream!

  • @andy.schwartz
    @andy.schwartz 4 місяці тому +1

    Do you have any video talking more about your use of the Sekonic meter?

    • @metalfingersfilm
      @metalfingersfilm  4 місяці тому

      negative but am planning a light metering video this spring once I'm out West in the Rockies, showing how to meter more complicated, dynamic scenes.

  • @spaszek195362
    @spaszek195362 4 місяці тому +4

    i got the TTArtisan one and i Love it. even if it’s in my pocket and i whip it out, click the settings in, and then punch it into a camera it’s fantastic

    • @gera13sa
      @gera13sa 4 місяці тому +2

      That’s a great light meter, but I find it strange that it has iso up to 3200 but in stops metering in any low light situation

    • @user-co6ww2cm9k
      @user-co6ww2cm9k 4 місяці тому

      I bought one of those and it was beautiful and joyful to use and between 3 to 6 stops off-inaccurate as well! TRASH

    • @gera13sa
      @gera13sa 4 місяці тому +1

      @@user-co6ww2cm9k mine works well, I have second version, maybe that’s a problem, or you metering wrong

    • @metalfingersfilm
      @metalfingersfilm  4 місяці тому

      Yeah that seems to be the most popular one, but I've seen so many mixed reviews on it, tbh! You obviously love it?

    • @metalfingersfilm
      @metalfingersfilm  4 місяці тому

      Yeah that is strange..

  • @ldaw7208
    @ldaw7208 4 місяці тому

    I use Lime One from Hedeco, very small and do the job

    • @metalfingersfilm
      @metalfingersfilm  4 місяці тому

      I've never heard of this before, but it looks solid! You've had good results?

    • @ldaw7208
      @ldaw7208 4 місяці тому

      @@metalfingersfilm yes good result and above all we can go up to f1024, i can used with my pinhole camera, this is why I bought this one
      Now their is an update with the Lime II

  • @TommyGrisselFilms
    @TommyGrisselFilms 4 місяці тому +1

    me and my homies love small light meters

  • @skate3enjoyer418
    @skate3enjoyer418 4 місяці тому

    ive been trying to meter by eye, my rule usually is to have my aperture at f/8 and my shutter speed at either 1/125 or 1/250 - i usually shoot 200 or 400iso film, the results are pretty good :) but i do have a light meter app as awell as the TTArtisian light meter

    • @metalfingersfilm
      @metalfingersfilm  4 місяці тому +1

      My buddy can meter almost any scene by eye, which is super impressive. I'm too nervous and have to be checking my exposure, hahaha

  • @iammarcdaniel
    @iammarcdaniel 4 місяці тому

    what lens are you using with that RB?

  • @AmorsAverageAdventures
    @AmorsAverageAdventures 4 місяці тому

    I would’ve said it’s about the size of an average Lego 😊

  • @TheDamnGarage
    @TheDamnGarage 4 місяці тому

    As Americans we will use anything but the metric system to measure the size of things. The light meter looks to be the size of a "fun size" candy bar.

    • @metalfingersfilm
      @metalfingersfilm  4 місяці тому

      Haha that's a good measurement. Fun-sized candy bar!

  • @chriszueger
    @chriszueger 4 місяці тому

    Do you also use a phone app for light metering?

    • @user-co6ww2cm9k
      @user-co6ww2cm9k 4 місяці тому

      It would not be necessary unless you really want to play cell phone

    • @metalfingersfilm
      @metalfingersfilm  4 місяці тому

      I do a lot still too, but for more dynamic scenes, I've noticed the apps struggle quite a bit!

  • @milkyISO
    @milkyISO 4 місяці тому

    Not bad at all for 80 bucks.

    • @metalfingersfilm
      @metalfingersfilm  4 місяці тому

      My same thought process! Not bad considering it can be thrown on any camera!

  • @Havenotats
    @Havenotats 4 місяці тому

    So tiny!

  • @ludez9853
    @ludez9853 4 місяці тому

    Anyone else using your phone?

    • @metalfingersfilm
      @metalfingersfilm  4 місяці тому

      I do a lot still too, but for more dynamic scenes, I've noticed the apps struggle quite a bit!

  • @guyles2462
    @guyles2462 4 місяці тому

    use your smartphone in place of the exposure meter🤦🤦🤦

    • @user-co6ww2cm9k
      @user-co6ww2cm9k 4 місяці тому

      not accurate!

    • @metalfingersfilm
      @metalfingersfilm  4 місяці тому

      Yeah phone meterings are fine but more dynamic scenes, they can realllllly struggle!

    • @jacopoabbruscato9271
      @jacopoabbruscato9271 4 місяці тому

      Honestly I use film cameras for the exact purpose of not having to look at screens in my free time