Push your bike up a hill or use them for traction,i have done the latter on numerous occasions especially when they stop in stupid places.They never do it again.
You should. However they changed it up a bit and now to stop in you have to stay there and maybe get a tour package? I’m not sure but definitely worth looking into
some riders they just took a break in the middle of the trail or stopped right after crux spot without given exit to others ......absolutely lack of brain usage, well I GUES NOT EVERYDAY IS SUNDAY..... most important is you delivered awesome stuff, cheers V!
I see Husqvarnas and KTMs; hear smokers and thumpers - proof that equality is achievable and we can all get along! Stunning area and trails - awesome filming and commentary as usual.
Of course Paul! I’ve not heard of a 2T vs 4T rivalry... if that’s true it’s the stupidest S*** I’ve ever heard of. The only powersport rivalry I can think of is the dirtbike vs atv rivalry. But, that’s understandable because quads are for non-helmet wearing inbreds.
Another great video. Question, I've seen a number of your videos talking about tires, particularly the rear tires, I see where you tried and reviewed the Tusk Recon and you definitely seem to love the Kenda tires but what about front tires? What are you currently running and what others have you tried and liked? I'm about to do my 1st tire change and for the rear I'm going to give the IRC VE33S a try 1st but front tires there just isn't anywhere near as many reviews out there. The Bridgestone M59 seems to get good reviews, that's a 80/100 size only. My stock Dunlop AT81 is 90/90 so the Bridgestone if I go that route will be narrower than I'm accustomed to, not sure how much I'll notice though . Any thoughts on a great front tire? Riding is mostly slow to moderate speed, terrain runs the full range although predominantly intermediate, no sand at all, occasional muddy sections through tighter forest trails with roots and some occasional water crossings. There is no dessert where I'm from nor mountains, mainly forested trails and fire/forest service roads. Bike is a KTM 300 XC-W TPI.
Hey Rod. Front tires are a personal thing for a rider, weight, style. I run the goldentyre 216 as in either a 90/90 or a 100/90. I like the fatty for hard enduro when there are tons of rocks but the 90/90 for most trail riding days. I run Thai tire everywhere and love it
Dude seriously you have the patience of Jobe. They're just all sitting in the trail multiple times but the creek crossing?? I'm f-ing yelling at people lol
I recently shot one in super view which will be live tomorrow on the BikeBandit UA-cam channel if you want to check it out and give me some feedback Problem with superview is that it makes everything look flat / small
@@EverySingleSunday in November of 2019 what go pro we're you using? hero 7 or ? (I also film POV Dirtbiking and have been playing with angles, FOV's etc etc.) I really really enjoy how you had it setup back then. Wondering if you were shooting on the 7 back then and then the 9 now? I have both the 7 and 9 blacks myself
100% agree Jason, I'm a local and the main trails are terrible compared to 2019. The harder single track are still really good tho, less skilled riders are avoiding those lol.
Wow that's cool Jarvis u met . I met Mike Metzger up here 15 years ago on independence trail he was trail riding he had just purchased some land in Athol he said that was a cool experience really nice guy .
Bahaha I love that last log crossing... The guy is is like f*ck he made that look easy!! Great video. I live in Montana and I really need to get over there to ride this.
He was fighting it so long. He turned around to watch me struggle which didn’t happen. I keep offering to help in the tech stuff when they are ready for some skills classes :)
two questions... They let you ride dirtbikes and ride horses on the same single track! Do you every see any? And, what sort of group lies down in the middle of the track for a rest? No one seems to get off the track?!? And, awesome riding btw.
They took a rest because it was early June and snow fall and tree fall had made the trail unpassable. Few riders went ahead to try and get thru but got turned around after cutting 3trees not much the rest of group could due but wait
KTM kill the mountains bad ass keep them coming full support to you and what you Got going on maybe come try out sliver wood and hit the Malcolm Smith Trail out here in California we have some very grate riding out here
In the Gold Creek area there's around 100 miles of ST and a typical loop from the lodge, including FS road transfer sections, is about 60 miles. The loops that go to and pass over Packsaddle Mountain are all expert only. The last trail in the video with all the riders are taking a rest in the middle of the trail is Packsaddle. Since they didn't show the upper part when the trail gets really difficult, my guess is they were early enough that it hadn't been cleared yet and the snow hadn't melted off the upper half so they just planted it. Early September you will be fine. After September 18th, over half the trails close for the year because of hunting season. You can get an overview of the area on the "Where to Ride" section of PANTRA's website (pantra.org/where-to-ride/gold-creek-independence-creek-trail-system/gold-creek-lodge/).
@@EverySingleSunday yes he is. And if you ever have any questions for him just message him on Instagram. I have frequent conversations with him. Mostly just questions I ask him and he responds.
@@EverySingleSunday I saw the USA isde helmet and when I heard him tell you about the trail I knew it was Chilly. I’ve got to get together with him and do a Baja ride before I get too old to do it.
Kicking myself for not sticking with dirt bikes as a kid. Best beer in the world would come after a ride like that one. Ride like that would make even a Keystone Light taste good.
@@EverySingleSunday It sounded like you took a gulp! That was a big hole you fell in. As always really enjoy your content. Always having fun! Brappity Brap Brap Brap!
I have road this trail a few times but its been about 10 years and Gold crick trail used to be nice i cant believe how torn up it is now from this video, see back about 10 or 15 years ago not many knew about it and everyone is riding it now and its torn to shit what a shame . Still is great riding dont get me wrong but used to be premium.
Betrayal definitely gets used quite a bit because there is one of the top motorcycle lodges right there. The guy from Gold Creek do a lot of trail maintenance and put a lot of time in into getting these trails open every year as well. But that lodge pulls riders from all around the world and yes, it does get used quite a bit. But at the same time, if the lodge was right there, these trails might not even get opened every year.
They filed bankruptcy last November. I got laid off and a lot of other people ended up without stuff. I think there’s a lawsuit or something going on but I’m not really sure.
He’s not that old. But most these guys don’t ride technical stuff all the time and picking a bike up over and over will wear you out fast. I do this stuff a few times a week and I’m 245 pounds of man. Rather just help them out and make sure everyone is having fun.
The scariest get-off I ever had happened when entered one of those wooden bridges...It was a little wet and bike came out from under me like I hit sheer ice, I went over the edge with the bike on top of me... Now I ride them like the biggest sissy pants in the world .... lol Awesome place, but what's with the group rest stops in the middle of the trails?? That's not good trail etiquette 😡
Seems like a lot of new riders in that group between the constant foot dabbing and the mid trail stopping. Also, I second your wooden bridge scary experience. Just this past summer I was in bear town state forest in Massachusetts. It was raining out but I still went for a solo ride. Everything was going great, even the first few wooden bridges were fine. Then I hit a wooden bridge and my bike completely slipped out from underneath me. I went forehead first onto a rock. My neck got sprained but luckily no damage. I got a bruise on my forehead through the helmet. I can’t imagine my condition without a helmet, thank god for them. I now go extremely slow over any and all wooden bridges. But sand is fine in the rain, so I still fly over that lol!
@@scottdrew6403 Maybe there's curse on those Beartown Forest bridges 👀 ... because that's where it happened to me.. The trail turns into those bridges and its hard to enter them straight on 😐 With my get-off, the front washed out immediately, I went over with the bike and felt my femur get pinched between it and the edge of the bike(I remember thinking; "there goes my leg") but it didn't break and me and my bike continued sliding down into the rocks and the stream.... Somehow, nothing serious happened... 👍 Newbs, or not someone should nicely explain blocking the trail, especially in difficult sections, is not cool....
@@painsrides3616 Did I misinterpret your comment or were you actually riding at bear town forest when you hit the wooden bridge? If so, that is such a damn coincidence... but, I think I misinterpreted your comment and you simply meant all wooden bridges are cursed?
@@painsrides3616 Beantown state forest lol? I still don't know if you're messing around or not. I hit a booby trap (stick sticking out into trail) at October Mountain sf in Mass last summer. I hope the same people aren't putting soap on the wooden bridges or something like that.
Doesn't look very secluded and definitely not close to pristine. Wouldn't pay the cost to lodge and ride there with so many better opportunities elsewhere. Northern Idaho👎
Love the flowing stuff, but at 72 years old I'd have trouble keeping up that pace all day long. thanks for the memories of how it used to be.
Riding at 72, sounds like you’re doing it right! Thanks for checking out my trips and have fun
Some of those scenes where you were flying between those trees reminded me of the speeder bikes scenes in Empire Strikes Back!👍😃
LOL, That’s awesome 👏
That was Return of the Jedi
Great trails and spectacular scenery, and a few bikes on the trail you can use as traction! Looks like a fantastic place to ride... Ripper video!!
It definitely crossed my mind :)
Push your bike up a hill or use them for traction,i have done the latter on numerous occasions especially when they stop in stupid places.They never do it again.
Very nice trail system! Great video. Thanks!
So much fun
I need to come to this place. Seen countless videos but never been. Looks epic, great video.
You should. However they changed it up a bit and now to stop in you have to stay there and maybe get a tour package? I’m not sure but definitely worth looking into
You always make the most epic videos fr fr
Thanks man. I’m definitely lucky to get to do so many great trips
some riders they just took a break in the middle of the trail or stopped right after crux spot without given exit to others ......absolutely lack of brain usage, well I GUES NOT EVERYDAY IS SUNDAY..... most important is you delivered awesome stuff, cheers V!
Ya... was a bit weird
I’m thinking they thought the trail was impossible and nobody else was going to go up 🤷
Spectacular looking ride,thanks.
Glad you enjoyed this one
Awesome riding up there. Thank God I live in Idaho. Born and raised.
Epic ground. Thanks for sharing.
Hell ya 🤘
Just found your channel! Subbed for more Idaho riding!
Excited to get back up there and ride some more
I think I have one other day I haven’t edited yet. Have to check that folder :)
I see Husqvarnas and KTMs; hear smokers and thumpers - proof that equality is achievable and we can all get along! Stunning area and trails - awesome filming and commentary as usual.
Of course Paul! I’ve not heard of a 2T vs 4T rivalry... if that’s true it’s the stupidest S*** I’ve ever heard of. The only powersport rivalry I can think of is the dirtbike vs atv rivalry. But, that’s understandable because quads are for non-helmet wearing inbreds.
The guys that work at Gold Creek ride 4T Moto bikes. Not sure why, but they rip and they like them
some really nice riding there Travis . cheers steve/Australia
Thanks Steve
Another great video. Question, I've seen a number of your videos talking about tires, particularly the rear tires, I see where you tried and reviewed the Tusk Recon and you definitely seem to love the Kenda tires but what about front tires? What are you currently running and what others have you tried and liked? I'm about to do my 1st tire change and for the rear I'm going to give the IRC VE33S a try 1st but front tires there just isn't anywhere near as many reviews out there. The Bridgestone M59 seems to get good reviews, that's a 80/100 size only. My stock Dunlop AT81 is 90/90 so the Bridgestone if I go that route will be narrower than I'm accustomed to, not sure how much I'll notice though . Any thoughts on a great front tire? Riding is mostly slow to moderate speed, terrain runs the full range although predominantly intermediate, no sand at all, occasional muddy sections through tighter forest trails with roots and some occasional water crossings. There is no dessert where I'm from nor mountains, mainly forested trails and fire/forest service roads. Bike is a KTM 300 XC-W TPI.
Hey Rod. Front tires are a personal thing for a rider, weight, style. I run the goldentyre 216 as in either a 90/90 or a 100/90. I like the fatty for hard enduro when there are tons of rocks but the 90/90 for most trail riding days. I run Thai tire everywhere and love it
ThanQ for filming
Glad you enjoyed it
Man, you're all over the place. Hope to see you next month in Utah.
Ride safe, brotha.
I’m trying to.
Dude seriously you have the patience of Jobe.
They're just all sitting in the trail multiple times but the creek crossing?? I'm f-ing yelling at people lol
I was there at a guest with some friends of mine. Just wanted to be helpful as I didn’t know most of them
But ya
Its spelt Job not Jobe 😂😂
Just came from binge-watching some older videos (2019) and the wider go pro angle you had previously was much better IMO!
Always used the same wide setting. Just changed helmets / mounts
New one is slightly closer to the bike so it doesn’t capture as much unfortunately
I recently shot one in super view which will be live tomorrow on the BikeBandit UA-cam channel if you want to check it out and give me some feedback
Problem with superview is that it makes everything look flat / small
@@EverySingleSunday in November of 2019 what go pro we're you using? hero 7 or ? (I also film POV Dirtbiking and have been playing with angles, FOV's etc etc.) I really really enjoy how you had it setup back then. Wondering if you were shooting on the 7 back then and then the 9 now? I have both the 7 and 9 blacks myself
this newer footage looks so much more punched in ( using two monitors to look at both your videos at the same time)
@@EverySingleSunday oh okay I think it has to do with your mounting ( as you just said)! I definitely enjoy seeing the whole cockpit
I really hope they do some trail maintenance up there this year. There’s so many people riding there now, the trails are getting so thrashed.
They were building new stuff last year and working on existing stuff as well
100% agree Jason, I'm a local and the main trails are terrible compared to 2019. The harder single track are still really good tho, less skilled riders are avoiding those lol.
Worked up there clearing trails for 3 summers and got paid to ride all that! So much fun up there!
That’s awesome. I did the same at a ski resort when I was younger.
Looks so awesome to go there
Great vid as usual. Question: what navigation unit/mount are you using on your handlebar? Great job on the editing of your videos.
It’s a TrailTech Voyager pro with the option metal center mount kit from TrailTech
@@EverySingleSunday Thank you
Met Graham Jarvis at the top rock pile on PacSaddle 2 years ago. Best moment on my bike ever
He’s such a rad guy. Awesome you were able to meet him
Wow that's cool Jarvis u met . I met Mike Metzger up here 15 years ago on independence trail he was trail riding he had just purchased some land in Athol he said that was a cool experience really nice guy .
Wow your one hell of a rider!!!
Thanks. I love the technical stuff
@@EverySingleSunday Getting rid of my 4stroke. Gas Gas ec300 or a XC-W300 what would you buy?
Потрясающая поездка!
🤙
Damn, pretty good weather for Idaho in February!
@EVERY SINGLE SUNDAY, where are you mounting your go pro? thanks. I really like the angle you have, thanks.
It’s on the chin of my helmet 👍
Bahaha I love that last log crossing... The guy is is like f*ck he made that look easy!! Great video. I live in Montana and I really need to get over there to ride this.
He was fighting it so long. He turned around to watch me struggle which didn’t happen.
I keep offering to help in the tech stuff when they are ready for some skills classes :)
planning on visiting Idaho this September with the family. Now if I can only convince the wife to let me and our son hit some Idaho trails...
You should make her convince you to only ride one day
What month was this? September was very dry and smokey. It was still amazing.
Early season. The snow was still melting in so many trails
When did you film this? I'm looking out my window and there is 6 feet of snow on the ground ( West Central Mountains ID). GOOD STUFF!
At the start of summer. Top of the hill was still snowed in when we were there
Independence Creek is always fun to take new riders across.
That was wild 😜
Nice!! planning a trip there this June. is there a link to get all trail maps?
I’m not sure. We just went and explored and asked the guys at gold creek lodge
two questions...
They let you ride dirtbikes and ride horses on the same single track! Do you every see any?
And, what sort of group lies down in the middle of the track for a rest? No one seems to get off the track?!?
And, awesome riding btw.
First and only time here ... never saw a horse in the few days. And I do t know why they laid down there... but I feel the same way
In my experience, it's common to see horses and mules on designated single track in Utah too.
They took a rest because it was early June and snow fall and tree fall had made the trail unpassable. Few riders went ahead to try and get thru but got turned around after cutting 3trees not much the rest of group could due but wait
Dude what's you and water crossing.. great video pure vida
I suck at dirt bikes and love hitting stuff under water. This time I found a tree 🤷
KTM kill the mountains bad ass keep them coming full support to you and what you
Got going on maybe come try out sliver wood and hit the Malcolm Smith Trail out here in California we have some very grate riding out here
how many miles of ST is there around gold creek, I live in GA and take my west coast trip early september. is that a good time to go?
I would call them to ask that, I really don’t know. I would personally spend my time in No Utah and that area. I feel the riding is a bit better
In the Gold Creek area there's around 100 miles of ST and a typical loop from the lodge, including FS road transfer sections, is about 60 miles. The loops that go to and pass over Packsaddle Mountain are all expert only. The last trail in the video with all the riders are taking a rest in the middle of the trail is Packsaddle. Since they didn't show the upper part when the trail gets really difficult, my guess is they were early enough that it hadn't been cleared yet and the snow hadn't melted off the upper half so they just planted it. Early September you will be fine. After September 18th, over half the trails close for the year because of hunting season. You can get an overview of the area on the "Where to Ride" section of PANTRA's website (pantra.org/where-to-ride/gold-creek-independence-creek-trail-system/gold-creek-lodge/).
is this video a re-release? i distinctly remember this beginning...
I shared it on the BikeBandit channel a few months back
Ohhhhh... Yea...... nice!
Definitely yes
3:25 Rooty section looked sick
There’s some epic stuff mixed in up there. Most the group didn’t want to hit that stuff
Good video 👍👍👍
Thanks man
When you're around next time, come up to Wallace and do some riding up here.
Hope to make it back up this year
This place is awesome can't wait for more camping up there this summer! Some of those trails really do put hair on your balls haha!
Yes they do. The hills are no joke and the rivers are rivers :)
I'm 71 and I can put my 48 year old son through the paces on some of those trails. It should be the inverse.
Just scratching the surface in that area! I'm pretty lucky it's my back yard
So much great stuff up there
Is there a bunch of “off the grid” stuff outside the main trail system? Or am I just dreaming?
@@scottdrew6403 yes
The videos just keep getting better.
Yes, yes, and yes
The IRC ve33 or m5b would be king in that terrain!
I was on a VE33s for this ride. It’s my regular go to tire for most trips
Do you know the trail number? I live about 40 miles from there and have yet to ride it
Im not sure off hand. I don't know the area that well
3:04 Jarvis up in here. Passing everyone!
I wish I had 1/2 his talent. Dude is on a whole different level
@@EverySingleSunday yes he is. And if you ever have any questions for him just message him on Instagram. I have frequent conversations with him. Mostly just questions I ask him and he responds.
He’s a rad guy. I have a video from when I first stated their channel and I got to rode with him
Is it more or less a guided day with goldcreek or can you break off and do your own thing?
They don’t offer tour services. But they can offer a place to stay, bike rentals, food, and nice rooms.
Highly recommend
11:00 Chilly White; cool you got to ride with him.
He’s a great guy
@@EverySingleSunday I saw the USA isde helmet and when I heard him tell you about the trail I knew it was Chilly. I’ve got to get together with him and do a Baja ride before I get too old to do it.
Wow !!! I miss my 300 🤨🤓
Beat bikes ever built
Saw the blue bike in the thumbnail and thought "Is that a yamaha IT two stroke"
Guess I'll watch the video
Let me know what you find :)
There is a Blue YZ - I think looking thru - it looks like it could be a TM??
Me too, lol.
I'm putting on my must go next summer.
Boom ahead of time to make sure you can get a room. GCL is amazing and the restaurant kicks ass. Enjoy
Kicking myself for not sticking with dirt bikes as a kid. Best beer in the world would come after a ride like that one. Ride like that would make even a Keystone Light taste good.
Just one of the perks of a solid day if riding. Never too late to start again
Went for a nice swim there didn’t ya mate 🦆
I tend to do it often
@@EverySingleSunday It sounded like you took a gulp! That was a big hole you fell in. As always really enjoy your content. Always having fun! Brappity Brap Brap Brap!
Slippery log breaks ribs, switched from Alpinestar to a fly lighter weight flak jacket broke two ribs!
I don’t wear anything besides knee braces myself. Have thought about under protection but never invested in any
I have road this trail a few times but its been about 10 years and Gold crick trail used to be nice i cant believe how torn up it is now from this video, see back about 10 or 15 years ago not many knew about it and everyone is riding it now and its torn to shit what a shame . Still is great riding dont get me wrong but used to be premium.
Betrayal definitely gets used quite a bit because there is one of the top motorcycle lodges right there. The guy from Gold Creek do a lot of trail maintenance and put a lot of time in into getting these trails open every year as well. But that lodge pulls riders from all around the world and yes, it does get used quite a bit. But at the same time, if the lodge was right there, these trails might not even get opened every year.
I'm just gonna lay down in the trail lol!!! Seriously wtf.
I guess it seemed fine 😂
Anybody else still waiting for their riding boots from bike bandit?
They filed bankruptcy last November. I got laid off and a lot of other people ended up without stuff. I think there’s a lawsuit or something going on but I’m not really sure.
Aye i hunt near there lol
For bear? I saw a lot of guys out hunting and they all said they were after bears
I have hunted bear there, no luck tho.
Smokers rule thumpers drool..,
❤️❤️❤️
What the hell was that guy doing like get off the trail
Thinking nobody else in our group was going up.
I feel the same way as you do
@@EverySingleSunday standing there is one thing but laying down oml
Dude was just laying down in the middle of the trail...rude as hell.
They thought we were all done cause it was too hard
3:39: guy barely helps pick up his own bike 👍🏼
They’re old and tired. Gotta help out the guys that get me to these Amazing places 🤘
@@EverySingleSunday Yea, sorry for hating. Didn’t know the guy was older. He looked young from the video. Looks like you guys had a great ride!
He’s not that old. But most these guys don’t ride technical stuff all the time and picking a bike up over and over will wear you out fast. I do this stuff a few times a week and I’m 245 pounds of man. Rather just help them out and make sure everyone is having fun.
The scariest get-off I ever had happened when entered one of those wooden bridges...It was a little wet and bike came out from under me like I hit sheer ice, I went over the edge with the bike on top of me... Now I ride them like the biggest sissy pants in the world .... lol
Awesome place, but what's with the group rest stops in the middle of the trails?? That's not good trail etiquette 😡
Seems like a lot of new riders in that group between the constant foot dabbing and the mid trail stopping.
Also, I second your wooden bridge scary experience. Just this past summer I was in bear town state forest in Massachusetts. It was raining out but I still went for a solo ride. Everything was going great, even the first few wooden bridges were fine. Then I hit a wooden bridge and my bike completely slipped out from underneath me. I went forehead first onto a rock. My neck got sprained but luckily no damage. I got a bruise on my forehead through the helmet. I can’t imagine my condition without a helmet, thank god for them. I now go extremely slow over any and all wooden bridges. But sand is fine in the rain, so I still fly over that lol!
@@scottdrew6403 Maybe there's curse on those Beartown Forest bridges 👀 ... because that's where it happened to me..
The trail turns into those bridges and its hard to enter them straight on 😐
With my get-off, the front washed out immediately, I went over with the bike and felt my femur get pinched between it and the edge of the bike(I remember thinking; "there goes my leg") but it didn't break and me and my bike continued sliding down into the rocks and the stream.... Somehow, nothing serious happened... 👍
Newbs, or not someone should nicely explain blocking the trail, especially in difficult sections, is not cool....
@@painsrides3616 Did I misinterpret your comment or were you actually riding at bear town forest when you hit the wooden bridge? If so, that is such a damn coincidence... but, I think I misinterpreted your comment and you simply meant all wooden bridges are cursed?
@@scottdrew6403 .. Freaky as it is 👻.... I did mean Beantown State Forest in MA
@@painsrides3616 Beantown state forest lol? I still don't know if you're messing around or not. I hit a booby trap (stick sticking out into trail) at October Mountain sf in Mass last summer. I hope the same people aren't putting soap on the wooden bridges or something like that.
too many riders, looks like that place is being "loved" to death.
Amazing place to ride. And lots of places to ride in the area. Doesn’t seem like an issue
@@EverySingleSunday Idaho is quickly becoming North California.
Guess I’ll have to tide Nor cal next 👌
@@cwalton56 the democrats are ruining it?
@@alistairbalistair9596 Just too many people
Idaho sucks, don't ride there.
100% yes
Doesn't look very secluded and definitely not close to pristine. Wouldn't pay the cost to lodge and ride there with so many better opportunities elsewhere. Northern Idaho👎
Sounds like it’s not for you. Have fun wherever you end up 🤘