I only ever played a cannonball a few times, but I was not expecting much. I thought it was going to be all looks, no substance, but I absolutely loved it. Not enough to pull me away from my conns, but enough to make my eyes wander a bit
Thank you Dr. Wally. Cannonball has been number one on my list for a while. I just stopped at my local music store Saturday to look at them. It was great to hear it played by someone who has a sound I love. And gives a review I trust
I bought a Cannonball Tenor Saxophone when I was in high school (saved up for two years to get it) and I had that thing for 13 years. It got me through my bachelors and masters degrees, and the ONLY reason why I got rid of it was because the key-work was getting soft and it was getting out of alignment very frequently. Getting 13 years out of any horn is pretty good, and considering I only paid $2100 for it back in 2004 I think I got some good life out of it. I would totally recommend these horns for people to consider.
I've played the Big Bell Stone Series in the Brute finish for about 5 years now and I absolutely love it. Sometimes I do feel strain on my neck and back the day after very long sessions, but it is not that big of a deal for me. My favorite part is the finish - the aged look really turns heads and people love it. I've been asked how old my saxophone is multiple times and everyone is surprised to hear it is only 5 years old. I would highly recommend this sax to anyone!
I’ve had a big bell alto for nearly half a year and it has been an amazing horn, amazing quality, and is the most popular sax at my local music store. Great video as always 🎷
I enjoy my Cannonball Big Bell Tenor, I had an intermediate model when I was in high school. Paired with a Beechler 7 metal, Rovner ligature and Java 3 Reed!
GREAT REVIEW!!!! I have this myself and I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!!! Looks great. Plays great. Smooth. Durable. Very well made. Very pleasing to hold and play. And the company is just as amazing. Very helpful. I support American 🇺🇸 companies even though it’s made elsewhere. It looks like a piece of art. I love the case. I love the two necks I prefer the fat neck. The semi precious stones are both beautiful and very nice on the fingers. The Tiger engraving is amazing.
Ive had an ice black alto cannonball since high school. It plays so smooth and lovely and Ive never had any issues with her. Do wish cases were easier to find though.
This was an absolutely awesome review of the Cannonball 25th anniversary Big bell stone series. I have the Raven (B ice B) alto big bell. I love this horn. I started taking lessons 4 years ago at age 68. As a novice player I wanted a horn that could work well as I matured in my playing levels. It has not disappointed me at all. As luck would have it, I also use Moore music and Evan as my go to tech guy. He is great. Yes the case is a little "hardy" but for my needs it is no problem. I also use the Legere American cut synthetic reed.
Small world indeed. No Dr. Wally we haven"t met, however I enjoy your videos. Thank you. Good stuff. I was just at Moore Music last week to introduce Evan to my sax teacher.
I started learning with my Gerald Albright tenor sax at age 67 and love it! I got a protec case which helps with the overall weight. I love the deep, rich sound that the big bell projects!
Hi Robert, I am also Robert and have a Gerald Albright tenor sax black nickel finish and started playing it at 68. I love the full and rich sound it belts out! I just bought the Gerald Albright curved soprano sax and it also has a rich and full sound and the notes are easy to get out from lower to upper register! Great saxes!!! Have fun!
I have the Big Bell stone series also, bought it 4 months ago. I absolutely love it. But I have only been playing for 2 years, so I don’t have much references. But I noticed it was so much easier to play in tune then the two other horns I had, (Jean Paul and cannonball Alcanzar)
Hi Dr. Wally, thank you for your review. I've been playing Cannonball horns for over 10 years. My alto and tenor are the Big Bell Stone series in the Mad Meg (bare brass) finish. My hope is to pick up a Mad Meg soprano either later this year or early next. I really enjoy your channel and hope to be able to subscribe to your academy soon, but for now.....I'll go pracitce
Really nice sound. I have a cannonball raven tenor sax. I love the sound . You are so right about the weight though. I bought a flight case for my tenor and now I'm very happy with the weight. I haven't tried the neck with the octave key underneath. You said it plays different and I wish you could say alittle more about the difference because I'm thinking of trying one. 🤔.
Excellent review Dr. Wally. I have the Cannonball Big Bell Raven Tenor (which is also Black Ice plated nickel silver) the primary difference being that the stones are Picasso Jasper (silver and black swirls) rather than the red stones. I loved how it was well set up out of the box. I think the horn really shines in two areas: 1) The lower register is really responsive if you want to play some Ben Webster subtoning ballads and 2) The horn really comes alive when pushed (think Illinois Jacquet). I will admit, the tenor is HEAVY (like … wear a harness rather than a neck strap heavy), which is why I find myself picking up my Yamaha for marathon practice sessions. I’m really looking forward to your review of the Vintage Reborn as I am thinking of getting an alto Vintage Reborn in that Cognac Lacquer (I don’t like unlacquered horns).
I'm just so used to huge pop rnb sounds coming out of that horn that when i heard the lush dark jazzy sound come from you, it was some serious cognitive dissonance. Love the playing Doctor, keep up these amazing reviews!
I bought the Brute too, about 6 years ago. When I took it for a cleaning and maintenance a couple of years back, an excellent techie set it up for me and it made all the difference. It felt like a different horn. Love the sound, the look and the two necks (in fact I got 3, because they sent me a silver one as well for some reason). Have had lots of fun playing this...to Shane F below ....please, please get yourself a Jazzlab Neckpiece which hangs off your shoulders. You don't want this big Brute wrecking your neck, because it will!! That invention is a godsend to sax players. I actually danced around the store while playing the Brute with it on.
My late father bought my Cannonball A5L which I needed for school, it works wonderfully for me. I still need a bit of help knowing what good the Fat Neck will do, but other than that, it is beautiful. HOWEVER, the white tiger engraving is so so beautiful!!
Excellent review. To me the first neck sounded exceedingly bright from what I'm accustomed to hearing from you. The second neck was surprisingly different and darker, more to my taste. As usual, you sound great on every sax you review. I'm getting used to the idea that there are many manufacturers turning out exceptional saxophones these days; both in material and build quality. To distinguish themselves, releasing limited editions with outstanding artistic aesthetics is becoming a standard practice. This horn as you point out has some individual characteristics that at first glance seem ambiguous. Yet taken as a whole the sax is stunningly beautiful. Other examples: the P. Mauriat 76 series III Greg Osby is also a gorgeous sax. Harkening back to the old King Silver Sonic. Ishimori Woodstone "New Vintage" saxes are works of art by virtue of the engraving alone. Offering several different finishes from unlacquered, matte, cognac and dark in place of the old standard bright gold or silver plate. Basically, it seems as if the deciding factor on what sax to purchase comes down to brand loyalty, price and which one appeals to the player visually.
You are right. Everytime Wally plays an instrument you can immedialy hear that HE is playing. And goes totally with my friend and former teacher said to us :" you can all play behind a curtain and I shall tell you who is playing, BUT I wont be able to hear if you have changed instruments ". HE was right. Everyone has his own sound depending of corpusbuilding, mouthopening embouchure and mouthpiece. Ofcause a certain instrument that suits you will help you a lot to find the sound you are looking for. At last a simple question: can't yo find the Cannonball sax in a normal colour ? Gold, silver or something like that ????
Thank you so much for your video. Finally! I’ve been trying to find the answer regarding the difference in sound and function between the regular and under slung octave keys on the necks.
I have one I’ve been playing for about 6 months. It’s and older model before fat neck was introduced. It does have 2 necks, but the only difference is lacquer color. As you probably imagine they sound similar. Mine was missing a couple stones when I got it. I found a replacement set on Amazon for less than$15. It came with most of the stones. Only one I was missing not found in the replacements was the key guard bling. I was able to pick that one up from local dealer for $10. For comparison my dealer has $4300 listed on price tag for this horn. I follow used horn prices and see this model listed in the $1500 to $2000 range frequently. I like the way it plays, and it lends itself quite well to large hands, especially for an Asian horn. I think second hand is the way to go with these, since they don’t seem to hold their value as well as their Japanese and French contemporaries. The horn is a tank, and noticeably heavier than my SBA and Zephyr. Doc, what is your opinion on this versus the pro Jean Paul? Overall great horn and I love all the custom color and engraving options available from Cannonball. I picked mine up second hand really cheap, so it was a no brainer. I don’t think I’d spend $4k on this horn, their are better options in that price range. If you can get a well cared for second hand for $1500-2000, I think it’s a solid horn for the money. BTW I used one of the extra replacement stones I got from Amazon to add some bling to the cheap rosewood plug I got from the same.
I have this same saxophone. A nice lightweight case I have that fits it is the Protec Max Rectangular case. It is again very light weight and hold much more then the original. It has a big pocket on the outside and a nice deep storage area on the inside. Only downside is it doesnt have a designated spot for the 2nd neck. I just keep it in a pouch inside the outer storage.
I don‘t know of you heard of Schagerl. It‘s a Austrian Brand that produces Brass instruments in Austria and some years ago they started producing saxophones in Taiwan under their strict supervision. They sell their profesional line, the model 66 for about 3000€. I got mine for 600€ less because ist was a showroom model. Mine is Silver plated. It‘s another Mark VI copy. Yesterday I went to the local music store and they let me try some Saxes knowing I wouldn‘t buy one, very friendly people. I took my Schagerl saxophone with me and tested different other Instruments to compare them. It was about as good as a laquered Selmer Reference 54, what really impressed me… Ok, the Selmer Supreme is better, also a Yanagisawa WO10, but as good as a Selmer Reference 54 is really what you can call a pro Saxophone!
Never heard of them, but they sound interesting! I checked out the website - must admit, they need to take down the "perfect intonation" marketing line - that's unequivocally a lie. Glad you've had a good experience!
Thank you for this review! A local music store tried for years to get me on a Cannonball. I went through about 30 of them, before I found one I liked. They all played fine, but there was something that I didn't care for in regards to how it felt putting an airstream through the instrument. The pitch was fine, but I didn't feel it with my embouchure, if that makes any sense. I went over and picked up an intermediate model Yamaha, and I immediately felt what I was looking for! I could play a Cannonball, and almost bought one! It just wasn't the horn for me. You get a great sound out of this horn, and the tone is consistent throughout the registers!
Your review was to the point and entertaining, I own a cannonball big bell alto saxophone (Black Ruby) a great saxophone , you get two thumbs up thanks Dr. Wally
Hi Wally, I own and play a Cannonball Big Bell Gerald Albright (Black Nickel) Tenor sax, and a Black Nickel Cannonball Baritone Sax. They play well - they have good intonation, good tone, are well made and reliable mechanically. The cases are not worth a dime - I ditched the Tenor Case for a Eastman / Joseph Winter (fibreglass) case and the bari case is soon to be ditched for a Howard Wiseman case. The bari case is large, flimsy and offers no protection at all. To sum up - the saxes are good full stop. (PS _ I am primarily an Alto player so the Tenor and Bari are second instruments - and the Cannonball were for me a cost effective buy. My Alto is a Selmer Reference 54.
I loved my cannonball big bell but it was just too damn heavy so I went back to the Yamaha custom z. But as far as playability the horn is fine and the intonation was always on point. The different necks do make a difference but all in all a very solid horn.
I love this horn, but at the same time being the price neighborhood it is in, I would be inclined to play it up against a Yani W20 or used 991 to see which I would like better. If I was inclined at this price point, I like the case and think that is the way a case should be. It is very protecting. Others won't agree. I prefer latches over zippers, because zippers always end up needing replacement, from my experiences. I am impressed by what this particular horn has to offer, and it sounds much fuller and sweeter, even with the element of brightness then the Albright Series. In the looks department, it is like wow.
I played the Big Bell Stone Series for a few years, then switched to the Vintage Reborn. I loved my Big Bell Stone Series, but it was way too heavy for long performances and the Vintage Reborn actually plays close to some Vintage horns that I have tried, with less resistance and way less weight than the Big Bell Stone Series.
@@drwallysax the Vintage Reborn has a thinner body and average sized bell. Way less metal because it doesn't have the double arms on the low register keys. It only has one neck to it. Plus the case is a brown and small vintage case that's easy to carry.
A great review. After years of disappointing interaction with behemoth mail order music stores, I've returned to working with local stores. I may spend a little bit more, but I get much better service when "going local." P.S. Do you tape some of these videos, like this one, in an art gallery? So many have exquisite works on the walls (or maybe that's just your well-developed eye). It gives your videos a personal aesthetic that is head and shoulders above others and always a pleasure to watch.
TOTALLY agree. We need to support our local music stores that support local communities! I actually film in my home studios - the white room is my "recording studio" - the white panels are actually acoustic diffusion panels. My other office has a nice painting by a local artist - Amy Gordon. I commissioned this work called "Heartbreaker" for my UA-cam "office" - thanks for asking!
Very true! Makes trying equipment for review videos interesting - I have to explain how it "feels." I always sound like me, but some horns take more work and are less pleasurable to do so!
I have the brute finish big bell tenor and I am sold on Cannonball, however I agree the case issue it is kinda annoying but definitely not a deal breaker.
My take - great video as always, Prof. I believe you sound better on the Yamaha than Cannonball. Your sound was a bit thin on the Cannonball even when you played the lower register, unlike your previous videos where you sounded robust/smoother. I wanted to purchase a pro sax earlier in the year, and because Gerald Albright is my role model, I said I would buy the Cannonball Gerald Albright edition. The store I went didn't have it, and I had to try out the Cannonball big bell (not the 25th-anniversary edition). It looked nice, attractive and appealing, but not the sound. I didn't feel comfortable on it. I came to UA-cam to find out the best pro Sax and found your video on the Yamaha 62III. Jay @Bettersax also recommended Yamaha 62III, but added Yanigasawa A02 I went back to the music store. I tried out both Yamaha 62III and Yanigasawa A02. I could see/feel/hear the difference. They both sounded richer, balanced and sweeter than the Cannonball big bell. Thus, I purchased Yamaha 62III because it is not as expensive as Yanigasawa. Cannonball's aesthetics is top-notch, but Yamaha and Yanigasawa are more functional. Hopefully, one day I will try out the Cannonball Gerald Albright edition because that is what my friends use for gigs. They told me it plays freely in the altissimo. Well done, Prof.
Thanks my friend, and I agree! Honestly though, EVERY saxophone will play freely in the altissimo (the saxophone is almost irrelevant). I just bought a yanigisawa AW010, I'll be reviewing the other yanis as well - good horns (you already know I love the Yamaha 62). Happy practicing!
I just tried my super action 80 jubilee edition against a vintage reborn cannonball and was really surprised how great it was. I'm super tempted. Alright saxokin haha, channeling your thu'um? I make educational music videos too, my last one was how to make a "pizzurkey sandwich". As saxophonists our sound comes from who we are and we are what we eat so I currently sound like pizza and cold cuts. Happy saxophoning!
The quote, "I have had a lot of fun with this horn," is the best thing I have ever heard said about any instrument in any review, ever. That line translates into at least consider the model if you are seriously looking for a new horn. Dr. Wallace, I thought the traditional neck sounded better with your playing, but you seemed to prefer the Fat neck, is that a fair statement? Is there a reason for your preference of necks? Great review. Cannonball saxes always seem heavy to me, but then I prefer a heavy horn. I think, generally speaking, a heavier horn produces a better sound. Any way, great review and great tip on Moore Music. Milwaukee, WI does not have music stores that cater to the higher end of instruments any more. I will be checking Moore Music out. Thank you.
I think that's a VERY fair statement! I've always loved the subdued tone of the 1950s west coast jazz. The fat neck just felt easy and mellow to me. The traditional neck certainly has more color to the sound - and I'd be perfectly happy with that as well! Cannonball gets a lot of hate (and I've made my share of jokes about "power stones"), but I just want more people playing the saxophone! If they have fun with these - that's FREAKING FANTASTIC!
@@drwallysax Personally, I am not a fan of the Cannonball Saxes for me. I am bari player through and through and I love my Yamaha 62. However, my students have found greater success with the Cannonball saxes than with other manufacturers of saxes except maybe Yamaha. Cannonball has come a long way in their saxes in the past few years and have instruments worthy of consideration. i recommend them to my students who are looking for step up instruments and to friends who just need a better horn than they have now. They area good company. Thank you for reply. I think you ought to keep the sax for yourself. It fits you well. Anyway, I have something to practice. Enjoy.
So how would you rate the JP AS-860 vs. a Cannonball vs. a Yani? You sound great on all three and you're always very polite, so it's hard to get a good sense of what you really think (maybe there is a lot of meaning hidden in "it was fun to play"!). How much better for the additional $$$ is a Yani over a Cannonball. What do you get over the Jean Paul? I'm currently playing the JP but I'm always fighting my inner passive consumer (who teams well with my cognitively dissonant narcissist with an inflated view of my playing ability). Do I really need a more expensive horn? How could anyone resist shiny semi-precious gems (well maybe if they were on underwear I could)? My local store sells both Cannonball and Yanigasawa (and Yamaha of course), so I will have to try them out one day (but I need to get Chopsticks down so I can impress the sales staff first).
I've been interested in a King Super 20 but also I love the Big bell, but I have a nickel allergy so I don't know if I.dare buying one. Do you know about that problem, please let me know. Sincerely yours Ole Birger Pedersen😮
I tried a Cannonball sax at my local dealer's and although it had a very nice sound I was not used to the heavy action (stronger springs than I am used to).
Understandable - I think that's why I like it, though. I like to rest my fingers on the keys, and if the action is too loose, they depress a little bit (cough...Eastman...cough)
The horn sounds good -- not the best you've ever sounded in these videos, but OK. The look is ... well, I'm someone who likes black lacquer, and this deep black nickel plating is close to that. And many of Cannonball's "semiprecious stones" are quite attractive, even elegant. But these blood-red stones on a black horn are visually strident, IMO. They give the sax a Bride of Dracula vibe that would be too much for me to put on display.
Really doesn’t have a Dr. Wally aesthetic! I think the “vintage” look of an unlacquered horn seems more your West Coast cool style!The underslung octave pip is interesting, as is the colour and the stones. Great tone as always!!!
Funny enough, I prefer gold lacquered horns now - it's what my heroes played on (just 70 years ago). 😀 I like the sound to be vintage, but not my shiny finish! Happy Wednesday (and thanks for the tone compliment - makes my day)!
As for the aesthetics of this saxophone, I totally disagree with you. I think Cannonball has nailed it and that it's absolutely gorgeous. It reminds me of the instrument used by Richard Elliot.This saxophonist plays on a tenor Yamaha in black lacquer with a silver neck. The Cannonball looks quite similar and it is fabulous.
I by no means want to be a hater, but I strongly advise anyone looking for a semi-professional sax in the price range of the Cannonball, please just get a Yamaha. It's so much better. If you're willing to spend more, Remy, Ishimori, Eastman and Yanagisawa blow it out of the park. Just a warning for someone upgrading, but if you're a collector, I guess it can be interesting.
I just bought a Yanigisawa and have spent considerable time with the Eastman (and did a review video). I prefer the Yanigisawa, but felt the Cannonball was a considerably better instrument than the Eastman. It's not everyone's cup of tea - but having spent a considerable amount of time with it, I understand the Cannonball appeal.
It's funny, but I felt the fat neck was darker! It's fascinating how we all hear things differently, and one reason I think the 2 necks is a cool idea. Happy Wednesday!
Now that you have experienced the true power of the gem stones I think you’ll agree what a bunch of chumps those Japanese Master Saxophone Craftsmen are. I bet you felt like Thanos wielding that horn.
Looks like a toy. Those palm keys look like they are way out there. Watched a couple vids on Nexus tenor. Would like to see you review it. I am a Selmer Mark VI snob but that horn really sounded impressive.
eu sonho em adiquirir um tenor brute acabamento vintagem big bell, e talvez um soprano curvo com chave de fa# e Sol agudo..... mas ainda está um pouco distante por conta da taxa de cambio no meu país.
You sound as one with it. As in just a perfect match. I want a Yani Bronze but love Yamaha also for the ease and confidence they give me. And both Japan. But the Taiwanese instruments are a much better value with about almost as much quality. I love the sound over Yamaha 62, but want the Yani bronze post sound. This seems to be about close in the middle towards the yani. And the 2 necks, Cool big bell and very custom look. Just don't like a black sax. Need to be seen during a solo and be the star. Not my color. Great sound. And killer price however.
Sirvalor plays a CBall vintage reborn tenor. I didn't notice much difference in models but .... just me., I've gpt the BB sop and like the heft. Can't believe you dogged the case Doc. You must not wear reptile boots... smh
You can't buy these online (Cannonball forbids dealers), BUT, my dealer has one in stock (as of last week). Give Al Stephens a call, tell him Dr. Wally sent ya: www.mooremusiccompany.com
Cannonball are hiiiiighly polarizing. People seem to love them or hate them. I've grown ambivalent in an effort to enjoy more of what my students seem to line. Happy Wednesday!
I only ever played a cannonball a few times, but I was not expecting much. I thought it was going to be all looks, no substance, but I absolutely loved it. Not enough to pull me away from my conns, but enough to make my eyes wander a bit
Thank you Dr. Wally. Cannonball has been number one on my list for a while. I just stopped at my local music store Saturday to look at them. It was great to hear it played by someone who has a sound I love. And gives a review I trust
Oh man, thanks Mike, happy to help! I had a nice chat with the president of Cannonball, Tevis - super nice fellow as well!
I bought a Cannonball Tenor Saxophone when I was in high school (saved up for two years to get it) and I had that thing for 13 years. It got me through my bachelors and masters degrees, and the ONLY reason why I got rid of it was because the key-work was getting soft and it was getting out of alignment very frequently.
Getting 13 years out of any horn is pretty good, and considering I only paid $2100 for it back in 2004 I think I got some good life out of it. I would totally recommend these horns for people to consider.
Not sure what they did back then, but they are using forged brass keys now (rather than cast), they should be plenty strong now.
I've played the Big Bell Stone Series in the Brute finish for about 5 years now and I absolutely love it. Sometimes I do feel strain on my neck and back the day after very long sessions, but it is not that big of a deal for me. My favorite part is the finish - the aged look really turns heads and people love it. I've been asked how old my saxophone is multiple times and everyone is surprised to hear it is only 5 years old. I would highly recommend this sax to anyone!
Glad you're happy with yours, and thanks for sharing your experience!
I have a 20-year-old Big Bell soprano that still plays great and got a stone series Bari last year. Love ‘em both forever!
Wonderful, happy practicing Randy!
I’ve had a big bell alto for nearly half a year and it has been an amazing horn, amazing quality, and is the most popular sax at my local music store. Great video as always 🎷
Excellent, thanks for sharing that! Happy practicing, Will!
Was a revelation - years of being in Mk VI land and all of a sudden my world is changed for the better!
I bought this same horn last summer and absolutely love it! I did get a nice protec case that I really like.
Excellent, happy practicing - it's a great horn!
I enjoy my Cannonball Big Bell Tenor, I had an intermediate model when I was in high school. Paired with a Beechler 7 metal, Rovner ligature and Java 3 Reed!
GREAT REVIEW!!!! I have this myself and I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!!! Looks great. Plays great. Smooth. Durable. Very well made. Very pleasing to hold and play. And the company is just as amazing. Very helpful. I support American 🇺🇸 companies even though it’s made elsewhere. It looks like a piece of art. I love the case. I love the two necks I prefer the fat neck. The semi precious stones are both beautiful and very nice on the fingers. The Tiger engraving is amazing.
These horns are simply amazing!
Ive had an ice black alto cannonball since high school. It plays so smooth and lovely and Ive never had any issues with her. Do wish cases were easier to find though.
Fits in a protec
Ooh... a 25th Anniversary Cannonball! I have a 25th Anniversary tenor, and find it as great to play as it is to look at.
Nice! They're one of the few horns that look flashy but still play great!
This was an absolutely awesome review of the Cannonball 25th anniversary Big bell stone series. I have the Raven (B ice B) alto big bell. I love this horn. I started taking lessons 4 years ago at age 68. As a novice player I wanted a horn that could work well as I matured in my playing levels. It has not disappointed me at all. As luck would have it, I also use Moore music and Evan as my go to tech guy. He is great. Yes the case is a little "hardy" but for my needs it is no problem. I also use the Legere American cut synthetic reed.
No way, small world! I don't think we've met, have we Daniel? Moore music (and Evan) are the best. I used to teach at Moore Music a million years ago!
Small world indeed. No Dr. Wally we haven"t met, however I enjoy your videos. Thank you. Good stuff. I was just at Moore Music last week to introduce Evan to my sax teacher.
I started learning with my Gerald Albright tenor sax at age 67 and love it! I got a protec case which helps with the overall weight. I love the deep, rich sound that the big bell projects!
Hi Robert, I am also Robert and have a Gerald Albright tenor sax black nickel finish and started playing it at 68. I love the full and rich sound it belts out! I just bought the Gerald Albright curved soprano sax and it also has a rich and full sound and the notes are easy to get out from lower to upper register! Great saxes!!! Have fun!
I have the Big Bell stone series also, bought it 4 months ago. I absolutely love it. But I have only been playing for 2 years, so I don’t have much references. But I noticed it was so much easier to play in tune then the two other horns I had, (Jean Paul and cannonball Alcanzar)
The Big Bell series does have excellent intonation - you picked up a very nice horn! Happy practicing!
I have a pro big bell since high school I love it. I swear by their stuff.
Hi Dr. Wally, thank you for your review. I've been playing Cannonball horns for over 10 years. My alto and tenor are the Big Bell Stone series in the Mad Meg (bare brass) finish. My hope is to pick up a Mad Meg soprano either later this year or early next. I really enjoy your channel and hope to be able to subscribe to your academy soon, but for now.....I'll go pracitce
Excellent, happy practicing JJ!
Good afternoon l will always watch your videos as you are one of the few presenters who tell us the price always. Keep up your great work sir.
Really nice sound. I have a cannonball raven tenor sax. I love the sound . You are so right about the weight though. I bought a flight case for my tenor and now I'm very happy with the weight. I haven't tried the neck with the octave key underneath. You said it plays different and I wish you could say alittle more about the difference because I'm thinking of trying one. 🤔.
Excellent review Dr. Wally. I have the Cannonball Big Bell Raven Tenor (which is also Black Ice plated nickel silver) the primary difference being that the stones are Picasso Jasper (silver and black swirls) rather than the red stones. I loved how it was well set up out of the box. I think the horn really shines in two areas: 1) The lower register is really responsive if you want to play some Ben Webster subtoning ballads and 2) The horn really comes alive when pushed (think Illinois Jacquet). I will admit, the tenor is HEAVY (like … wear a harness rather than a neck strap heavy), which is why I find myself picking up my Yamaha for marathon practice sessions. I’m really looking forward to your review of the Vintage Reborn as I am thinking of getting an alto Vintage Reborn in that Cognac Lacquer (I don’t like unlacquered horns).
I almost bought a Raven about a decade ago - VERY nice playing horn to be sure! (the black just isn't my cup of tea).
I'm just so used to huge pop rnb sounds coming out of that horn that when i heard the lush dark jazzy sound come from you, it was some serious cognitive dissonance. Love the playing Doctor, keep up these amazing reviews!
Well that just made my day - thanks William! Have a great rest of the week!
Nice Skyrim reference :) I play Cannonball and I love specially that 25th anniversary edition. First horn to put my Mark VI back on its case
I bought the Brute too, about 6 years ago. When I took it for a cleaning and maintenance a couple of years back, an excellent techie set it up for me and it made all the difference. It felt like a different horn. Love the sound, the look and the two necks (in fact I got 3, because they sent me a silver one as well for some reason). Have had lots of fun playing this...to Shane F below ....please, please get yourself a Jazzlab Neckpiece which hangs off your shoulders. You don't want this big Brute wrecking your neck, because it will!! That invention is a godsend to sax players. I actually danced around the store while playing the Brute with it on.
I have friends that love the Jazzlab as well! I just can't do the exoskeleton look :)
My late father bought my Cannonball A5L which I needed for school, it works wonderfully for me. I still need a bit of help knowing what good the Fat Neck will do, but other than that, it is beautiful. HOWEVER, the white tiger engraving is so so beautiful!!
Excellent review. To me the first neck sounded exceedingly bright from what I'm accustomed to hearing from you. The second neck was surprisingly different and darker, more to my taste. As usual, you sound great on every sax you review. I'm getting used to the idea that there are many manufacturers turning out exceptional saxophones these days; both in material and build quality. To distinguish themselves, releasing limited editions with outstanding artistic aesthetics is becoming a standard practice. This horn as you point out has some individual characteristics that at first glance seem ambiguous. Yet taken as a whole the sax is stunningly beautiful. Other examples: the P. Mauriat 76 series III Greg Osby is also a gorgeous sax. Harkening back to the old King Silver Sonic. Ishimori Woodstone "New Vintage" saxes are works of art by virtue of the engraving alone. Offering several different finishes from unlacquered, matte, cognac and dark in place of the old standard bright gold or silver plate. Basically, it seems as if the deciding factor on what sax to purchase comes down to brand loyalty, price and which one appeals to the player visually.
You are right. Everytime Wally plays an instrument you can immedialy hear that HE is playing. And goes totally with my friend and former teacher said to us :" you can all play behind a curtain and I shall tell you who is playing, BUT I wont be able to hear if you have changed instruments ". HE was right. Everyone has his own sound depending of corpusbuilding, mouthopening embouchure and mouthpiece. Ofcause a certain instrument that suits you will help you a lot to find the sound you are looking for. At last a simple question: can't yo find the Cannonball sax in a normal colour ? Gold, silver or something like that ????
greetings .... I have a canonball and it is excellent I do not change it , I have the pro . sounds wonderful
Thank you so much for your video. Finally! I’ve been trying to find the answer regarding the difference in sound and function between the regular and under slung octave keys on the necks.
I have one I’ve been playing for about 6 months. It’s and older model before fat neck was introduced. It does have 2 necks, but the only difference is lacquer color. As you probably imagine they sound similar. Mine was missing a couple stones when I got it. I found a replacement set on Amazon for less than$15. It came with most of the stones. Only one I was missing not found in the replacements was the key guard bling. I was able to pick that one up from local dealer for $10. For comparison my dealer has $4300 listed on price tag for this horn. I follow used horn prices and see this model listed in the $1500 to $2000 range frequently. I like the way it plays, and it lends itself quite well to large hands, especially for an Asian horn. I think second hand is the way to go with these, since they don’t seem to hold their value as well as their Japanese and French contemporaries. The horn is a tank, and noticeably heavier than my SBA and Zephyr. Doc, what is your opinion on this versus the pro Jean Paul? Overall great horn and I love all the custom color and engraving options available from Cannonball. I picked mine up second hand really cheap, so it was a no brainer. I don’t think I’d spend $4k on this horn, their are better options in that price range. If you can get a well cared for second hand for $1500-2000, I think it’s a solid horn for the money. BTW I used one of the extra replacement stones I got from Amazon to add some bling to the cheap rosewood plug I got from the same.
Nice review Dr Wally. Would love your take on their vintage reborn horns.
I'll see if I can get my hands on one! Happy practicing!
I've had my cannonball for almost 4 years now, and it plays and sounds amazing
I have this same saxophone. A nice lightweight case I have that fits it is the Protec Max Rectangular case. It is again very light weight and hold much more then the original. It has a big pocket on the outside and a nice deep storage area on the inside. Only downside is it doesnt have a designated spot for the 2nd neck. I just keep it in a pouch inside the outer storage.
I don‘t know of you heard of Schagerl. It‘s a Austrian Brand that produces Brass instruments in Austria and some years ago they started producing saxophones in Taiwan under their strict supervision. They sell their profesional line, the model 66
for about 3000€. I got mine for 600€ less because ist was a showroom model. Mine is Silver plated. It‘s another Mark VI copy. Yesterday I went to the local music store and they let me try some Saxes knowing I wouldn‘t buy one, very friendly people. I took my Schagerl saxophone with me and tested different other Instruments to compare them. It was about as good as a laquered Selmer Reference 54, what really impressed me…
Ok, the Selmer Supreme is better, also a Yanagisawa WO10, but as good as a Selmer Reference 54 is really what you can call a pro Saxophone!
Never heard of them, but they sound interesting! I checked out the website - must admit, they need to take down the "perfect intonation" marketing line - that's unequivocally a lie. Glad you've had a good experience!
I really like how the engraving shows silver rather than brass here
Oh yeah, forgot to mention that the bell and bow are nickel silver as well - I think that helps with the pleasant response.
How you doing Derek?!
Thank you for this review! A local music store tried for years to get me on a Cannonball. I went through about 30 of them, before I found one I liked. They all played fine, but there was something that I didn't care for in regards to how it felt putting an airstream through the instrument. The pitch was fine, but I didn't feel it with my embouchure, if that makes any sense. I went over and picked up an intermediate model Yamaha, and I immediately felt what I was looking for! I could play a Cannonball, and almost bought one! It just wasn't the horn for me. You get a great sound out of this horn, and the tone is consistent throughout the registers!
Thanks for your perspective, it's funny how personal finding the "right" horn is! Happy practicing!
Check out their Travel case ! You'll Love it !!!!
Your review was to the point and entertaining, I own a cannonball big bell alto saxophone (Black Ruby) a great saxophone , you get two thumbs up thanks Dr. Wally
I enjoy your approach and sound on The Alto....nice and pretty.
Dr. W. , Like the horn and really like the playing. Pitch , intonation , phrasing the best.
Thanks my friend, have a MOST wonderful weekend!
Hi Wally, I own and play a Cannonball Big Bell Gerald Albright (Black Nickel) Tenor sax, and a Black Nickel Cannonball Baritone Sax. They play well - they have good intonation, good tone, are well made and reliable mechanically. The cases are not worth a dime - I ditched the Tenor Case for a Eastman / Joseph Winter (fibreglass) case and the bari case is soon to be ditched for a Howard Wiseman case. The bari case is large, flimsy and offers no protection at all. To sum up - the saxes are good full stop. (PS _ I am primarily an Alto player so the Tenor and Bari are second instruments - and the Cannonball were for me a cost effective buy. My Alto is a Selmer Reference 54.
Good to know, thanks Stephen! Happy practicing my friend!
I loved my cannonball big bell but it was just too damn heavy so I went back to the Yamaha custom z. But as far as playability the horn is fine and the intonation was always on point. The different necks do make a difference but all in all a very solid horn.
It's a chunky horn to be sure.
Well intonation on my alto sucks
I love this horn, but at the same time being the price neighborhood it is in, I would be inclined to play it up against a Yani W20 or used 991 to see which I would like better. If I was inclined at this price point, I like the case and think that is the way a case should be. It is very protecting. Others won't agree. I prefer latches over zippers, because zippers always end up needing replacement, from my experiences. I am impressed by what this particular horn has to offer, and it sounds much fuller and sweeter, even with the element of brightness then the Albright Series. In the looks department, it is like wow.
Thanks a lot! Great review, so nice to get another on UA-cam!!
Thanks Sticky, happy Wednesday!
@@drwallysax you too!
I have a big bell global series, was the first one big bell and love it.
Beautiful looking instrument. ❤️😃
Nice sax!!!
Heavy as hell 😂
Would I give up my Mark 6, probably not, except for crappy outside bar gigs in scorching hot summer.
I don't think the deep black color would do well in the hot summer sun!
I personally love your sound on this!
That's very kind, thanks Emmet! :)
I played the Big Bell Stone Series for a few years, then switched to the Vintage Reborn. I loved my Big Bell Stone Series, but it was way too heavy for long performances and the Vintage Reborn actually plays close to some Vintage horns that I have tried, with less resistance and way less weight than the Big Bell Stone Series.
Good to know and thanks for sharing your experience - I'll be reviewing that one very soon. Is it post to body construction? Happy Wednesday!
@@drwallysax the Vintage Reborn has a thinner body and average sized bell. Way less metal because it doesn't have the double arms on the low register keys. It only has one neck to it. Plus the case is a brown and small vintage case that's easy to carry.
@@denniswilliams4918 Oh good, I'm looking forward to reviewing that!
Add a big Turqpouse cowboy belt buckle, Aviators and you're set.
A great review. After years of disappointing interaction with behemoth mail order music stores, I've returned to working with local stores. I may spend a little bit more, but I get much better service when "going local."
P.S. Do you tape some of these videos, like this one, in an art gallery? So many have exquisite works on the walls (or maybe that's just your well-developed eye). It gives your videos a personal aesthetic that is head and shoulders above others and always a pleasure to watch.
TOTALLY agree. We need to support our local music stores that support local communities! I actually film in my home studios - the white room is my "recording studio" - the white panels are actually acoustic diffusion panels. My other office has a nice painting by a local artist - Amy Gordon. I commissioned this work called "Heartbreaker" for my UA-cam "office" - thanks for asking!
You sound the same on all the demos you do, that says so much about the player. Took me too long to figure that out
Very true! Makes trying equipment for review videos interesting - I have to explain how it "feels." I always sound like me, but some horns take more work and are less pleasurable to do so!
saludos ....tengo un canonball y es excelente no lo cambio , tengo el pro . suena de maravillas .
I have the brute finish big bell tenor and I am sold on Cannonball, however I agree the case issue it is kinda annoying but definitely not a deal breaker.
My take - great video as always, Prof. I believe you sound better on the Yamaha than Cannonball. Your sound was a bit thin on the Cannonball even when you played the lower register, unlike your previous videos where you sounded robust/smoother.
I wanted to purchase a pro sax earlier in the year, and because Gerald Albright is my role model, I said I would buy the Cannonball Gerald Albright edition. The store I went didn't have it, and I had to try out the Cannonball big bell (not the 25th-anniversary edition). It looked nice, attractive and appealing, but not the sound. I didn't feel comfortable on it.
I came to UA-cam to find out the best pro Sax and found your video on the Yamaha 62III. Jay @Bettersax also recommended Yamaha 62III, but added Yanigasawa A02
I went back to the music store. I tried out both Yamaha 62III and Yanigasawa A02. I could see/feel/hear the difference. They both sounded richer, balanced and sweeter than the Cannonball big bell.
Thus, I purchased Yamaha 62III because it is not as expensive as Yanigasawa.
Cannonball's aesthetics is top-notch, but Yamaha and Yanigasawa are more functional.
Hopefully, one day I will try out the Cannonball Gerald Albright edition because that is what my friends use for gigs. They told me it plays freely in the altissimo.
Well done, Prof.
Thanks my friend, and I agree! Honestly though, EVERY saxophone will play freely in the altissimo (the saxophone is almost irrelevant). I just bought a yanigisawa AW010, I'll be reviewing the other yanis as well - good horns (you already know I love the Yamaha 62). Happy practicing!
I just tried my super action 80 jubilee edition against a vintage reborn cannonball and was really surprised how great it was. I'm super tempted. Alright saxokin haha, channeling your thu'um? I make educational music videos too, my last one was how to make a "pizzurkey sandwich". As saxophonists our sound comes from who we are and we are what we eat so I currently sound like pizza and cold cuts. Happy saxophoning!
Ha! Happy Saturday Brian!
The quote, "I have had a lot of fun with this horn," is the best thing I have ever heard said about any instrument in any review, ever. That line translates into at least consider the model if you are seriously looking for a new horn. Dr. Wallace, I thought the traditional neck sounded better with your playing, but you seemed to prefer the Fat neck, is that a fair statement? Is there a reason for your preference of necks? Great review. Cannonball saxes always seem heavy to me, but then I prefer a heavy horn. I think, generally speaking, a heavier horn produces a better sound. Any way, great review and great tip on Moore Music. Milwaukee, WI does not have music stores that cater to the higher end of instruments any more. I will be checking Moore Music out. Thank you.
I think that's a VERY fair statement! I've always loved the subdued tone of the 1950s west coast jazz. The fat neck just felt easy and mellow to me. The traditional neck certainly has more color to the sound - and I'd be perfectly happy with that as well! Cannonball gets a lot of hate (and I've made my share of jokes about "power stones"), but I just want more people playing the saxophone! If they have fun with these - that's FREAKING FANTASTIC!
@@drwallysax Personally, I am not a fan of the Cannonball Saxes for me. I am bari player through and through and I love my Yamaha 62. However, my students have found greater success with the Cannonball saxes than with other manufacturers of saxes except maybe Yamaha. Cannonball has come a long way in their saxes in the past few years and have instruments worthy of consideration. i recommend them to my students who are looking for step up instruments and to friends who just need a better horn than they have now. They area good company. Thank you for reply. I think you ought to keep the sax for yourself. It fits you well. Anyway, I have something to practice. Enjoy.
You should review kessler horns
If they send me one, I'd be happy to!
So how would you rate the JP AS-860 vs. a Cannonball vs. a Yani? You sound great on all three and you're always very polite, so it's hard to get a good sense of what you really think (maybe there is a lot of meaning hidden in "it was fun to play"!). How much better for the additional $$$ is a Yani over a Cannonball. What do you get over the Jean Paul? I'm currently playing the JP but I'm always fighting my inner passive consumer (who teams well with my cognitively dissonant narcissist with an inflated view of my playing ability). Do I really need a more expensive horn? How could anyone resist shiny semi-precious gems (well maybe if they were on underwear I could)? My local store sells both Cannonball and Yanigasawa (and Yamaha of course), so I will have to try them out one day (but I need to get Chopsticks down so I can impress the sales staff first).
I actually like your tone on this Cannonball a bit better than your other video on the Yamaha. Do you plan on reviewing Keilwerth?
I've been interested in a King Super 20 but also I love the Big bell, but I have a nickel allergy so I don't know if I.dare buying one. Do you know about that problem, please let me know. Sincerely yours Ole Birger Pedersen😮
I tried a Cannonball sax at my local dealer's and although it had a very nice sound I was not used to the heavy action (stronger springs than I am used to).
Understandable - I think that's why I like it, though. I like to rest my fingers on the keys, and if the action is too loose, they depress a little bit (cough...Eastman...cough)
I love cannoball saphonones! The bast of the bast!
I think those stones would go nicer with a stripped bare brass with some bronze patina.
The horn sounds good -- not the best you've ever sounded in these videos, but OK. The look is ... well, I'm someone who likes black lacquer, and this deep black nickel plating is close to that. And many of Cannonball's "semiprecious stones" are quite attractive, even elegant. But these blood-red stones on a black horn are visually strident, IMO. They give the sax a Bride of Dracula vibe that would be too much for me to put on display.
Is it a pimped up version of lesser makes ? Although must admit it looks nice .
Man! That thing is down right pretty. The price is good too. But not including the white gloves is a deal breaker for me. Sorry
In all seriousness, it's a fingerprint magnet.
Really doesn’t have a Dr. Wally aesthetic! I think the “vintage” look of an unlacquered horn seems more your West Coast cool style!The underslung octave pip is interesting, as is the colour and the stones.
Great tone as always!!!
Funny enough, I prefer gold lacquered horns now - it's what my heroes played on (just 70 years ago). 😀 I like the sound to be vintage, but not my shiny finish!
Happy Wednesday (and thanks for the tone compliment - makes my day)!
Hah, I've been to Moore music to try out horns, it's a bit of a drive for me but it's probably the best equipped store within 100 miles of me
They're really great people working there. Al Stephens, the owner, is just a really great human being - I love chatting with him :)
As for the aesthetics of this saxophone, I totally disagree with you. I think Cannonball has nailed it and that it's absolutely gorgeous. It reminds me of the instrument used by Richard Elliot.This saxophonist plays on a tenor Yamaha in black lacquer with a silver neck. The Cannonball looks quite similar and it is fabulous.
I by no means want to be a hater, but I strongly advise anyone looking for a semi-professional sax in the price range of the Cannonball, please just get a Yamaha. It's so much better. If you're willing to spend more, Remy, Ishimori, Eastman and Yanagisawa blow it out of the park. Just a warning for someone upgrading, but if you're a collector, I guess it can be interesting.
Or they could get a cheaper cannonball like a raven. And it also depends on the type of music they wanna play
I just bought a Yanigisawa and have spent considerable time with the Eastman (and did a review video). I prefer the Yanigisawa, but felt the Cannonball was a considerably better instrument than the Eastman. It's not everyone's cup of tea - but having spent a considerable amount of time with it, I understand the Cannonball appeal.
Can you tell how I can buy it I am from TANZANIA africa
The fat neck sounds a bit brighter than the standard and more projection too …. I’d LOVE to get a tenor version but can’t at the minute …..
It's funny, but I felt the fat neck was darker! It's fascinating how we all hear things differently, and one reason I think the 2 necks is a cool idea. Happy Wednesday!
I think your have to be in to that sort of thing. Prop's to them for cooking something different though.
What I wouldn't give for one.....
I you to played one high school and it was nice
I have the alto Raven and it cost me $2,500 brand new 13 years ago😂
Hands down everyone who is NOT a sax player prefers the sound of my cannonball over my mark 6.
Interesting, I know what you mean. Non-saxophonists have a different aesthetic preference I've noticed as well.
Now that you have experienced the true power of the gem stones I think you’ll agree what a bunch of chumps those Japanese Master Saxophone Craftsmen are. I bet you felt like Thanos wielding that horn.
I was VERY careful not to snap my fingers while playing along with the backing track.
Looks like a toy. Those palm keys look like they are way out there. Watched a couple vids on Nexus tenor. Would like to see you review it. I am a Selmer Mark VI snob but that horn really sounded impressive.
In fairness, Chad LB would sound amazing on a garden hose. At the end of the day, it's a Taiwaneses horn (not a bad thing)!
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What mouthpiece, ligature and reed are you using?
Moore Music? Are you in Greensboro? I take sax lessons and participate in a group guitar class there!
Do they exist in gold lac too ?
Fantástico!
eu sonho em adiquirir um tenor brute acabamento vintagem big bell, e talvez um soprano curvo com chave de fa# e Sol agudo..... mas ainda está um pouco distante por conta da taxa de cambio no meu país.
Awesome. Wow
Thanks, and happy Saturday Vincent!
@@drwallysax one day I will afford one Beautiful sound , need toget your mouthpiece too
You sound as one with it. As in just a perfect match. I want a Yani Bronze but love Yamaha also for the ease and confidence they give me. And both Japan. But the Taiwanese instruments are a much better value with about almost as much quality. I love the sound over Yamaha 62, but want the Yani bronze post sound. This seems to be about close in the middle towards the yani. And the 2 necks, Cool big bell and very custom look. Just don't like a black sax. Need to be seen during a solo and be the star. Not my color. Great sound. And killer price however.
I'm with you, I love the classic brass look! I just bought a Yanigisawa AWo10 - it's fantastic. Hope you find a horn you love!
what’s the mouthpiece?
What mouthpiece are you using with that cannonball saxophone?
It's the GS New York, from Getasax.com - great company, great mouthpiece! Tell him Wally sent ya!
What’s the song 🔥🔥
Will you make a video on your king silver sonic? Just for fun
I just traded it in! I've got a new Yanigisawa AWo10 now (review soon)!
Kitschsax!
Hi Dr Wally. I cant see the link to reach the dealer.
www.mooremusiccompany.com
Tell them Dr. Wally sent ya!
Evan my personal repair tech works there - he'll look over the horn before it ships.
Sirvalor plays a CBall vintage reborn tenor. I didn't notice much difference in models but .... just me., I've gpt the BB sop and like the heft. Can't believe you dogged the case Doc. You must not wear reptile boots... smh
Adrian (Sirvalor) sounds fantastic, great fit for him! I suppose I stick to Ostrich and Cow Leather boots.
@@drwallysax Luv ya, Doc.
Doc, have you done any Martin horns review before?
Afraid it's tough to do vintage reviews, I might do a big vintage roundup at some point.
@@drwallysax No problem. Really appreciate for all the videos you have for us.
were can i buy this
You can't buy these online (Cannonball forbids dealers), BUT, my dealer has one in stock (as of last week). Give Al Stephens a call, tell him Dr. Wally sent ya: www.mooremusiccompany.com
What audio equip are you using?
It's a Sure microphone (I can never remember the model number) run through a focusrite preamp/interface.
what Mpc and reed are you playing
this was on the GS New York with a 2.5 Vandoren blue box.
hey wally i just ate chips
I'll call the press.
Sounds great with you playing it but it looks horrible.
Cannonball are hiiiiighly polarizing. People seem to love them or hate them. I've grown ambivalent in an effort to enjoy more of what my students seem to line. Happy Wednesday!
You obviously play Skyrim. Cannonball case to the knee, lol.