What amazes me is that, even with how immensely biased the language in this video is, Wikia is still such a dumpster-smoothie of a website that it doesn't feel like you're trying to spin the story or manipulate opinions here. It really, truly is THAT bad. It's called "Wikia" by the way, fuck their rebranding. You don't get to call your website "Fandom" like it's a base of operations for anyone who's a fan of anything. Angry. Oh, and it's nice to know I'm not the only person getting those stupid "WE CAN'T SHOW YOU HOW BIG HER TITS ARE UNLESS YOU [[PLAY NOW]]" ads that take up like 1/3rd of the screen. I get that sex sells and everything, but surely that one game can't be "take up a ridiculous portion of every single page on the whole website" levels of popular, right...?
That's the truth! Wikia's like a petri dish formulated to be as stockholder-friendly as possible. Absolutely no consideration towards the user experience, but if you told any old suit about the ad concentration they'd probably shit their pants and give it a seal of utmost approval on the double.
Another "fun" fact is that Doom is not the only media that had this issue. Fandom is notorious for strongarming popular pages, often resulting in ownership being taken away to prevent losing the page and its ad revenue. It only got worse when they consumed Gamepedia.
Deep Rock Galactic, Minecraft, and Terraria are all games that are in the same state of having migrated away from Fandom, but they can't kill the old Fandom pages.
I think that Transformers is the only time I've ever seen the new wiki practically erase the Fandom wiki. Search any Transformers character and the TFwiki link will show up as one of the first, if not _the_ first, links.
The transition of the Binding of Isaac Rebirth wiki from Gamepedia to Fandom was horrendous. When Repentance (the last expansion) released, all of the sprites and graphics had gotten hideous .jpeg artifacts smothered all over them from the transition (even though they all used transparency!), so when Isaac UA-camrs went to grab some graphics for their thumbnails to celebrate the new release, the .jpeg disease spread over to my feed as well.
@@elliotaddler2302 The minecraft wiki being turned into a fandom wiki will always feel like a cosmic mistake made by some cruel god. Everything about it just feels *wrong.*
Fandom is such a frustrating site to visit. It's like trying to run a series of massive clogs through your internet tubes just to sift out a small unit of information.
Year late to the party, but my friend showed me a neat trick: If you still need to visit a fandom wiki for whatever reason, you can just add “anti” in front of the fandom part of the wiki to make antifandom. It has the same information but without ads and a better layout. It also lets you know if a Wiki has moved to another site at the top, which is pretty convenient if you’re looking at a wiki that was graffitied a lot after they moved
I cant recall how many goddamn times I kept getting snatched into main Fandom site because everytime I look up any Fandom Wikia pages they will always play giant video popup with the extremely tiny close button
uB O alone is good enough to block it pretty fairly. Some parts need to be probably disabled by admins tho (like the shit at the bottom when you scroll down all the way), unless element picker does the job when you've some extensive job using it.
@@planet23kYeah, that's what I use it for. What I consider "bloat" besides the ads are, among others: the yellow sidebar on the left, the "popular pages" section on the right, and the fan feed at the bottom. To me, those are really only there to unnecessarily fill out the pages, and uBO happened to have the most reliable and convenient option to clear them up.
Fandom is hands down one of the worst sites for ads I've ever seen that isn't just outright bot-generated spam or a malicious Russian botnet front. On mobile you're lucky if you can see 20% of the fucking article behind all the ads. The pop ups are obscene, they're always stacked on top of each other, and they have "X" buttons that fucking lie and send you to the ad link instead of closing the goddamn popup. The worst are the ones that wait 10 seconds for you to start scrolling to load in so that they can try and trick you into tapping them when you bring your finger down to scroll. And some of these ads, I swear, open 2, 3, or 4 separate tabs when you get tricked into looking at them the wrong way.
@@pacman10182 The former sounds better, especially in terms of that universe being stories in the far, far future, like how the Appendices for The Lord of the Rings are actually write in the Seventh Age of what is actually modern Earth, while the story ended at the Fourth Age.
What really grinds my gears is how search engines usually will have the fandom links towards the top of the results unless you add 'wiki' or 'doomwiki' into the parameters. This gives a bad impression as newbies will almost certainly stumble onto fandom before they find the real wiki.. I wouldn't even call fandom's a dumpster, it is the dumpster of the dumpster.
This is extra annoying to other wikis, which have completely busted and abandoned wikis, and significantly better wikis on other sites (like splatoon's inkepedia, and mariowiki), but fandom's big traffic means they get shown first anyway...
@@titanic_monarch796 Fandom is so dogshit, the devs of Terraria got sick of having the most used wiki be that trash that they decided to officially support a new one on wiki gg. Yet when you search up "terraria wiki", fandom is still on top despite it being objectively worse in every possible way.
@@amaruqlonewolf3350 There is a better solution! There is a browser addon called "Indie Wiki Buddy", which by default disabled fandom results and prompts you to use the corresponding "real" wiki instead. And if for some reason, you happen to be on fandom, it can, depending on your settings, automatically redirect you to the correct wiki, or display a banner with a link to it that you can click. And it's open source, too
Sadly many of the short form video watchers aren't either interested in Doom in general or call themselves "doomers" when they only played Doom Eternal and never cared about the superior 1993 version,
@@airplanemaniacgaming7877 it's all the more reason to quit complaining and be proactive and edit the incorrect information yourself - you can, so why not do so
The FANDOM site really tries to be good but their lack of info on Arena and Daggerfall plus other lore articles really show how low on people the wikia is.
Why is it that the fandom wiki has images of the weapon sprites with no background, but the official one doesn't? Like, I want to use the official wiki, but for the situations where I need the sprite of a weapon for reference material, I have to go to fandom.
I can relate to the gripes about Fandom, as they bought Game “Frequently Asked Questions” (UA-cam doesn’t seem to like the acronym for some reason) not all that long back and while I generally don’t have a problem with their representative’s management of the site, other users aren’t particularly happy especially since our Fandom overlords instituted a “no hornyposting” rule not long after taking over responsibility for the site.
It's weird how this isn't just the case for DOOM but I also noticed that with Sonic, Particularly Sonic Adventure 2 battle where one of the A rank requirements for a mission 3 of a stage (Lost Chao Missions) was incorrect. It seems the only correct source for it I found was Sonic Retro and indirectly, Chao Island for Chao information, given Emblem acquisition is attached to the Chao Races and Karate.
Exactly, it has been abandoned by the creators and objectively false information is currently being hosted on the fandom wiki, such as the existence of bosses which do not exist in any form in any of the releases.
Thank you for clearing the air on this. I’ve noticed the same thing with the UESP and Fandom when I’ve been doing research on Morrowind. Cannot stand Fandom articles and their intrusive page layouts.
You can revisit it with the OpenMW port if you own a physical or digital of it. And for what it’s worth, it runs great on the latest Xbox consoles (One and Series X/S).
I've seen this happen with RuneScape and Terraria- it got to the point where the devs of the games stepped in and recommend the newer, non fandom wikis. Hell, the RuneScape one hasn't had its main page update in a year or so lmao
glad to see over the past few years, fandom is now so bad that a lot of wikis are moving so now I don't have to deal with fandom as often. (idk if other people have this but it's barely usable on phone due to search not working)
Unfortunaly a lot of game wikis are hosted on fandom with no better alternative so a LOT of my time is spend reading fandom articles on the internet The thing that i hate the most is how theres a video on top of the page that starts automatocally and if you scroll past it it sticks to the botton of your screen so you HAVE to close it If i am in the digimon wiki the last thing i want to see is the fandom staff talking about marvel movies
A really primo tip: If the google search icon has Hissy (or the cute cartoon Caco), it's the good wiki! If it's the detailed, in-game Caco, that's the bad wiki. :(
I don’t think I’ve seen the Doom fandom wiki, but I do have familiarity with the Fandom platform. I used to be into creepypastas, and the place where a lot of them were submitted was the Fandom wiki. I recall finding the name for the service odd, and the constant adds obnoxious. Also, while this is more mostly the fault of the users of these sites. The moderation on Fandom wikis seems to be piss poor. The before mentioned Creepypasta wiki is probably a very infamous example.
It was painful when Karl Jobst quoted the Wikia for the all-ghost glitch video. Can't blame him tho, since Wikia pays to be on top of the search results on search engines.
Interesting I never knew about this, suprisingly whenever I look something up concerning a WAD I'm playing, I have always went to the real DOOM wiki, I never came across the other one.
The worst part about wikia is that, unless a fandom can afford to keep up its own website, it’s largely the only option to make a fan resource site. And I hate it!! There’s older communities like LOZ and Mario that have their own resource sites, and they get pushed to the bottom of search results in favor of wikia.
There's a number of other games in similar situations, including both the Elder Scrolls and Fallout. In every case I've seen, the non-Fandom version of the wiki is always the more up-to-date and reliable alternative.
Unfortunately this happens with a ton of stuff. I know for a fact that it happened to the wikis of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, Kingdom Hearts, and digimon(although the two digimon wikis are vaguely linked), but those three are the ones I know about. It's highly likely that there are others too.
A seemingly similar split happened with elder scrolls You got UESP which is super convenient, shows values in an easily readable format and has a shitton of information, and then you got fandom, a bloated mess of incomplete information
I've heard this exact tale happen with several wikis and I honestly have to wonder how different the wiki world would be hadn't fandom/wikia gone full throttle evil with no redeeming qualities
This is the case for most franchises. Warhammer 40k, Fire Emblem, Halo, Star Wars, you name it. They have a Wikia page as well as a far better ran wiki
The ads on fandom are so annoying! Im just trying to read stuff and then the ad on the top half of the screen covers most of the stuff and scrolls me like halfway down the page so then I have to find where I was at again only for it to happen like a minute later! For the ads on the side I usually delete them with inspect element so that there is more room to see the actual stuff Im trying to read. It is also abnormally slow to load anything
Someone should really collect a list of all these wikis so that people have a single reference for Fandom wikis that shouldn't be used anymore. As it stands it's sometimes really difficult to know if a wiki has moved. (I've already made it by the way, just finding relevant places to tell people about it, I'd be happy to link it if you ask)
Honestly this situation was kind of interesting as the Doom Wiki on Wikia was THE Doom Wiki before, but all those appearance changes made it seem lesser in quality. I also know of other wikis that migrated from that platform such as the Minecraft Wiki, although many people still use the wiki that (I wish I could still call) Gamepedia, and it was the official wiki for Minecraft until it was deemed no longer official. There's also the Half-Life Wiki which had become the Combine OverWiki and also migrated to its own domain, although the Half-Life Wiki on Wikia still exists and it still seems as if it's too full of reliable information.
I still use the fandom one on occasion for one very specific purpose: to check the names of the original midi's when adding these to a wad in Slade. But I hate every second I spend there
@@AlexeiVoronin I do use an ad blocker, but for some god-forsaken reason, even with the blocker permanently on, Fandom STILL slows down so much that I basically can't visit it for more than a few minutes before my browser slows down so much that it sometimes closes itself. Not even Firefox likes Fandom.
Same thing happens with alot of other IPs, like Warhammer, where there's FANDOM and Lexicanum, or Lexi, while Lexi has less information than the FANDOM, it's more reliable and less "edgy", giving straight information on the story, characters and universe, while FANDOM is written in a more entertaining with added up edgy info as if you're reading something straight from the universe itself, this added up lore however, was quite infamous and hated by the community as it mostly was wrong lol.
The same problem happened to path of exile there is an official wiki by the devs called poewiki and the Fandom site is the one paid to show up first and has outdated info all the time
I want a website that is like fandom but instead of having it's own wikis it just redirected you to the wikis themselves thus taking traffic from fandom and put it into something useful
I tolerated the massive ads they put onto their pages but nowadays half the time I try to use fandom I end up getting an unavoidable redirect to a sketchy site. The second or third time it happened when I was looking up different pages for different properties I personally blacklisted them.
Going onto fandom wikis on a phone is hell itself. No i don’t care about “another” fandom page. No i don’t care about the watchmojo top 10 booty pics vid that autoplays.
What amazes me is that, even with how immensely biased the language in this video is, Wikia is still such a dumpster-smoothie of a website that it doesn't feel like you're trying to spin the story or manipulate opinions here. It really, truly is THAT bad.
It's called "Wikia" by the way, fuck their rebranding. You don't get to call your website "Fandom" like it's a base of operations for anyone who's a fan of anything. Angry.
Oh, and it's nice to know I'm not the only person getting those stupid "WE CAN'T SHOW YOU HOW BIG HER TITS ARE UNLESS YOU [[PLAY NOW]]" ads that take up like 1/3rd of the screen. I get that sex sells and everything, but surely that one game can't be "take up a ridiculous portion of every single page on the whole website" levels of popular, right...?
Too good not to pin!
What's even worse about Wikia is how SLOW it is. There's so many ads that my old iPad crashes half the time I try and load a page.
That's the truth! Wikia's like a petri dish formulated to be as stockholder-friendly as possible. Absolutely no consideration towards the user experience, but if you told any old suit about the ad concentration they'd probably shit their pants and give it a seal of utmost approval on the double.
Even funnier about the ads, they're not even a fucking game. Its literally just a virus posing as a game
Sometimes I have to use the wikis site for a game, which makes me glad I have a Adblock installed on almost every browser on my pc
"Oh boy I can't wait to learn some useful information on this fandom article..."
>Queen's Blade massive tiddies ads
"Well I guess that's knowledge."
..LOL
Yes, you're definitely appreciating her personalities.
@@sunshadow7XKMhm, for sure!
Another "fun" fact is that Doom is not the only media that had this issue. Fandom is notorious for strongarming popular pages, often resulting in ownership being taken away to prevent losing the page and its ad revenue. It only got worse when they consumed Gamepedia.
Deep Rock Galactic, Minecraft, and Terraria are all games that are in the same state of having migrated away from Fandom, but they can't kill the old Fandom pages.
I think that Transformers is the only time I've ever seen the new wiki practically erase the Fandom wiki. Search any Transformers character and the TFwiki link will show up as one of the first, if not _the_ first, links.
God I miss gamepedia. Fextralite is basically the last bastion of gaming info that isn’t ad riddled bs
The transition of the Binding of Isaac Rebirth wiki from Gamepedia to Fandom was horrendous. When Repentance (the last expansion) released, all of the sprites and graphics had gotten hideous .jpeg artifacts smothered all over them from the transition (even though they all used transparency!), so when Isaac UA-camrs went to grab some graphics for their thumbnails to celebrate the new release, the .jpeg disease spread over to my feed as well.
@@elliotaddler2302 The minecraft wiki being turned into a fandom wiki will always feel like a cosmic mistake made by some cruel god. Everything about it just feels *wrong.*
Fandom is a blight to all pop culture wikis
Agreed
Was just searching up Doom content and found this useful piece of information
They did the same thing to the Minecraft wiki iirc
@@daemon_umbraterraria and GTA aswell
@@trunestor fear and hunger. ultrakill. and probably a lot more
Fandom is such a frustrating site to visit. It's like trying to run a series of massive clogs through your internet tubes just to sift out a small unit of information.
Year late to the party, but my friend showed me a neat trick: If you still need to visit a fandom wiki for whatever reason, you can just add “anti” in front of the fandom part of the wiki to make antifandom. It has the same information but without ads and a better layout. It also lets you know if a Wiki has moved to another site at the top, which is pretty convenient if you’re looking at a wiki that was graffitied a lot after they moved
It's impressive just how laggy a website that's supposed to be just text and a few jpgs can be
@@RaposaCadela 95% of it is bloatware and trackers from ads, guaranteed.
Change fandom to antifandom in the link. If you can't use an independent wiki, that is. Thank me later.
@@MagnetismR Yeah I commented this, but mine got filtered it looks like
"accidentally clicking on ads" is the definition of fandom wikis.
I cant recall how many goddamn times I kept getting snatched into main Fandom site because everytime I look up any Fandom Wikia pages they will always play giant video popup with the extremely tiny close button
I manually clean Fandom wiki page bloat with uBlock Origin's element picker. Works well enough for me, but the bloat is still inexcusable.
uB O alone is good enough to block it pretty fairly. Some parts need to be probably disabled by admins tho (like the shit at the bottom when you scroll down all the way), unless element picker does the job when you've some extensive job using it.
@@planet23kYeah, that's what I use it for. What I consider "bloat" besides the ads are, among others: the yellow sidebar on the left, the "popular pages" section on the right, and the fan feed at the bottom. To me, those are really only there to unnecessarily fill out the pages, and uBO happened to have the most reliable and convenient option to clear them up.
just use breezewiki
Fandom is hands down one of the worst sites for ads I've ever seen that isn't just outright bot-generated spam or a malicious Russian botnet front. On mobile you're lucky if you can see 20% of the fucking article behind all the ads. The pop ups are obscene, they're always stacked on top of each other, and they have "X" buttons that fucking lie and send you to the ad link instead of closing the goddamn popup. The worst are the ones that wait 10 seconds for you to start scrolling to load in so that they can try and trick you into tapping them when you bring your finger down to scroll. And some of these ads, I swear, open 2, 3, or 4 separate tabs when you get tricked into looking at them the wrong way.
I am here to mention that extensions such as Indie Wiki Buddy exist that tell you about non-fandom wikis or even automatically redirect you to them.
Touhou Wiki: "First time?"
Wookieepedia, with all too cluttered Legends and Disney Canon pages: "Really? That's just tame."
@@michaelandreipalon359legends? Did you mean expanded universe?
@@pacman10182 The former sounds better, especially in terms of that universe being stories in the far, far future, like how the Appendices for The Lord of the Rings are actually write in the Seventh Age of what is actually modern Earth, while the story ended at the Fourth Age.
I’d say this problem doesn’t really apply to the Touhou wiki considering that the real wiki is higher on search result pages than the Fandom one.
What really grinds my gears is how search engines usually will have the fandom links towards the top of the results unless you add 'wiki' or 'doomwiki' into the parameters. This gives a bad impression as newbies will almost certainly stumble onto fandom before they find the real wiki.. I wouldn't even call fandom's a dumpster, it is the dumpster of the dumpster.
This is extra annoying to other wikis, which have completely busted and abandoned wikis, and significantly better wikis on other sites (like splatoon's inkepedia, and mariowiki), but fandom's big traffic means they get shown first anyway...
@@titanic_monarch796 Fandom is so dogshit, the devs of Terraria got sick of having the most used wiki be that trash that they decided to officially support a new one on wiki gg. Yet when you search up "terraria wiki", fandom is still on top despite it being objectively worse in every possible way.
Ive basically started to just include "-fandom" to get rid of it entirely in the search results. Everyone should do it, too.
@@amaruqlonewolf3350which search engine does this filter work in it looks extremely useful
@@amaruqlonewolf3350 There is a better solution! There is a browser addon called "Indie Wiki Buddy", which by default disabled fandom results and prompts you to use the corresponding "real" wiki instead. And if for some reason, you happen to be on fandom, it can, depending on your settings, automatically redirect you to the correct wiki, or display a banner with a link to it that you can click. And it's open source, too
I wish that more doomtubers posted short-form content to potentially expose more people to doom
(or just remind them how cool it is)
Quick reminder, doom is awesome
The science is settled
Doom is cool
Sadly many of the short form video watchers aren't either interested in Doom in general or call themselves "doomers" when they only played Doom Eternal and never cared about the superior 1993 version,
Just look for the Hissy Seal of Approval.
No Hissy? Not real.
Damn straight!
Reminds me of how gamepedia got bought out by fandom. I used to edit for a gamepedia wiki and that turned into a nightmare I'm told.
I always wondered this, like why is there an amazing wiki right next to a much cheaper one?
Thanks for answering.
Happy the vid helped clarify things!
Also Fandom has tons of mistakes. Always funny getting in a debate with someone getting info from Fandom
It's definitely full to the brim with inaccuracies
y'all know fandom wiki articles are community edited... right?
@@darthharrywhich means all the more reason to scrutinise with a close lens.
@@airplanemaniacgaming7877 it's all the more reason to quit complaining and be proactive and edit the incorrect information yourself - you can, so why not do so
@@darthharryAverage fandom junk rider 😂😂
My favorite part about UA-cam shorts is how the description links don’t work. UA-cam really does just throw something out there and never updates it.
I’ve never seen a wiki on the fandom site that isn’t worse than its independent counterpart
Just cheap copies of work put in by an actual community
Unfortunately Sonic Retro hasn't been touched in years so the Sonic wikia does have a lot more... but it still sucks in the usual way they do
With the Elder Scrolls, there is a Fandom wiki and the UESP. Definitely use the UESP
The FANDOM site really tries to be good but their lack of info on Arena and Daggerfall plus other lore articles really show how low on people the wikia is.
i always use UESP since i play daggerfall, hell i never use the fandom one even for the newer title
I've noticed a lot of games having a wiki and a fandom
Unfortunately it's like this for a lot of games, you eventually learn to ignore the Fandom wikis unless that's all there is
Why is it that the fandom wiki has images of the weapon sprites with no background, but the official one doesn't?
Like, I want to use the official wiki, but for the situations where I need the sprite of a weapon for reference material, I have to go to fandom.
I can relate to the gripes about Fandom, as they bought Game “Frequently Asked Questions” (UA-cam doesn’t seem to like the acronym for some reason) not all that long back and while I generally don’t have a problem with their representative’s management of the site, other users aren’t particularly happy especially since our Fandom overlords instituted a “no hornyposting” rule not long after taking over responsibility for the site.
It's weird how this isn't just the case for DOOM but I also noticed that with Sonic, Particularly Sonic Adventure 2 battle where one of the A rank requirements for a mission 3 of a stage (Lost Chao Missions) was incorrect. It seems the only correct source for it I found was Sonic Retro and indirectly, Chao Island for Chao information, given Emblem acquisition is attached to the Chao Races and Karate.
Cool, thanks for making this.
It was a pleasure. Thank you as always ClassicDOOM!
Oh! I knew there were two wiki sites, never knew that there was any drama behind the split. Great short!
You'd think this is common knowledge seeing as this isn't just Doom but every game wiki
Always nice to find your channel randomly! Keep it up
The calamitymod wiki has the same problem, the fandom wiki has also been completely vandalized.
Exactly, it has been abandoned by the creators and objectively false information is currently being hosted on the fandom wiki, such as the existence of bosses which do not exist in any form in any of the releases.
Thank you for clearing the air on this. I’ve noticed the same thing with the UESP and Fandom when I’ve been doing research on Morrowind. Cannot stand Fandom articles and their intrusive page layouts.
You're very welcome! Fandom is indeed a total mess.
You can revisit it with the OpenMW port if you own a physical or digital of it. And for what it’s worth, it runs great on the latest Xbox consoles (One and Series X/S).
I've seen this happen with RuneScape and Terraria- it got to the point where the devs of the games stepped in and recommend the newer, non fandom wikis. Hell, the RuneScape one hasn't had its main page update in a year or so lmao
Minecraft too. The wiki used to be so good, and now it’s worthless.
glad to see over the past few years, fandom is now so bad that a lot of wikis are moving so now I don't have to deal with fandom as often. (idk if other people have this but it's barely usable on phone due to search not working)
A tale that spans across many, many games (see The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages vs. the TES Wikia)
Elder scrolls games have their own wiki as well (uesp)
Never use fandom if you can avoid it
Unfortunaly a lot of game wikis are hosted on fandom with no better alternative so a LOT of my time is spend reading fandom articles on the internet
The thing that i hate the most is how theres a video on top of the page that starts automatocally and if you scroll past it it sticks to the botton of your screen so you HAVE to close it
If i am in the digimon wiki the last thing i want to see is the fandom staff talking about marvel movies
Personally I’d be mostly fine with the ads if they didn’t make the page run like ass.
A really primo tip: If the google search icon has Hissy (or the cute cartoon Caco), it's the good wiki!
If it's the detailed, in-game Caco, that's the bad wiki. :(
I don’t think I’ve seen the Doom fandom wiki, but I do have familiarity with the Fandom platform. I used to be into creepypastas, and the place where a lot of them were submitted was the Fandom wiki. I recall finding the name for the service odd, and the constant adds obnoxious. Also, while this is more mostly the fault of the users of these sites. The moderation on Fandom wikis seems to be piss poor. The before mentioned Creepypasta wiki is probably a very infamous example.
It was painful when Karl Jobst quoted the Wikia for the all-ghost glitch video. Can't blame him tho, since Wikia pays to be on top of the search results on search engines.
The guy who does the simpsons mysteries still quotes fandom instead of the actual simpsons wiki
Trying to use fandom without a adblocker is like trying to play doom with your feet while using a small calculator screen
every community with a fandom wiki should 100% do this, its makes me sad to see when they dont
i remember the same thing went down with smashwiki (for smash bros.) back in the day, tragic stuff
Such a shame!
Wikia rebranding to Fandom was one of the choices of all time
fandom on mobile has more ads and pop ups than times square
Not sure if this is true, but I remember somewhere someone said that Fandom will never remove a Wiki. So, it's permanent.
Glad to know I’m not the only one getting those dumb Limit Break ads
thank god breezewiki exists for communities that dont have their own independent wiki site and are relying on fandom for whatever reason
Their are "two" wikis for alot of fansites.
The one being ran by fans
And the one being ran by bridge trolls
i did noticed that there are two doom wikis, but never knew about the drama, and hissy has always been best caco
hilarious i could tell which one was superior as soon a i noticed this, just by reading alone you can actually tell between the quality.
Interesting I never knew about this, suprisingly whenever I look something up concerning a WAD I'm playing, I have always went to the real DOOM wiki, I never came across the other one.
The worst part about wikia is that, unless a fandom can afford to keep up its own website, it’s largely the only option to make a fan resource site. And I hate it!! There’s older communities like LOZ and Mario that have their own resource sites, and they get pushed to the bottom of search results in favor of wikia.
Thanks Decino. 🔫
There's a number of other games in similar situations, including both the Elder Scrolls and Fallout. In every case I've seen, the non-Fandom version of the wiki is always the more up-to-date and reliable alternative.
Half life fandom vs combineoverwiki is another such case
Unfortunately this happens with a ton of stuff. I know for a fact that it happened to the wikis of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, Kingdom Hearts, and digimon(although the two digimon wikis are vaguely linked), but those three are the ones I know about. It's highly likely that there are others too.
A seemingly similar split happened with elder scrolls
You got UESP which is super convenient, shows values in an easily readable format and has a shitton of information, and then you got fandom, a bloated mess of incomplete information
I’m been using the wrong doom wiki this whole time then
Not just doom. A lot of fan communities have this issue. Terraria, Minecraft, Elder scrolls, etc.
It's like UESP (The Unofficial Elder Scrolls page) and the elder scrolls ""wiki"".
That Cacodemon is so cute
I like how you sped up the last sentence to fit the video into 1 minute
Lmfao, someone else said I turned into Samuel Hayden. They don't give you even a millisecond of wiggle room!
doomkid inhaled helium at the end
this happened to the Minecraft wiki last year as well
I've heard this exact tale happen with several wikis and I honestly have to wonder how different the wiki world would be hadn't fandom/wikia gone full throttle evil with no redeeming qualities
Im glad the minecraft wiki split from wikia too
General rule for wikis, fuck Fandom.
The Two Towers
This is the case for most franchises. Warhammer 40k, Fire Emblem, Halo, Star Wars, you name it. They have a Wikia page as well as a far better ran wiki
The ads on fandom are so annoying! Im just trying to read stuff and then the ad on the top half of the screen covers most of the stuff and scrolls me like halfway down the page so then I have to find where I was at again only for it to happen like a minute later! For the ads on the side I usually delete them with inspect element so that there is more room to see the actual stuff Im trying to read. It is also abnormally slow to load anything
Someone should really collect a list of all these wikis so that people have a single reference for Fandom wikis that shouldn't be used anymore. As it stands it's sometimes really difficult to know if a wiki has moved. (I've already made it by the way, just finding relevant places to tell people about it, I'd be happy to link it if you ask)
This actually also happened to the Jjba fans as well, even down to leaving fandom to make their own website
There's two because fandom wants their cut from every property ever created.
Something very similar happened to the old school RuneScape wiki a few years back
Honestly this situation was kind of interesting as the Doom Wiki on Wikia was THE Doom Wiki before, but all those appearance changes made it seem lesser in quality. I also know of other wikis that migrated from that platform such as the Minecraft Wiki, although many people still use the wiki that (I wish I could still call) Gamepedia, and it was the official wiki for Minecraft until it was deemed no longer official. There's also the Half-Life Wiki which had become the Combine OverWiki and also migrated to its own domain, although the Half-Life Wiki on Wikia still exists and it still seems as if it's too full of reliable information.
The Elder Scrolls has an even more wild situation. The real wiki, UESP was founded in 1995, and became a wiki in 2005.
I still use the fandom one on occasion for one very specific purpose: to check the names of the original midi's when adding these to a wad in Slade.
But I hate every second I spend there
I know the feeling!
Ad blockers exist. Just saying...
@@AlexeiVoronin I do use an ad blocker, but for some god-forsaken reason, even with the blocker permanently on, Fandom STILL slows down so much that I basically can't visit it for more than a few minutes before my browser slows down so much that it sometimes closes itself.
Not even Firefox likes Fandom.
@@dariogonzalez8989 (shrugs) Never happens to me. Must be a problem in your browser or OS.
Same thing happens with alot of other IPs, like Warhammer, where there's FANDOM and Lexicanum, or Lexi, while Lexi has less information than the FANDOM, it's more reliable and less "edgy", giving straight information on the story, characters and universe, while FANDOM is written in a more entertaining with added up edgy info as if you're reading something straight from the universe itself, this added up lore however, was quite infamous and hated by the community as it mostly was wrong lol.
The same problem happened to path of exile there is an official wiki by the devs called poewiki and the Fandom site is the one paid to show up first and has outdated info all the time
>fux hard
All I need to know fam
I'm pretty sure that can be said about most wikis that have both a indie site version and a fandom version
The REAL DoomWiki! - doomwiki.org/
..and a relevant article: doomwiki.org/wiki/Doom_Wiki:Departure_from_Wikia
I hate trying to find the real one on my phone just to be bumbling with the fake one with adverts and less then half the information.
@@tickleson8661 Same here!
hey, if you are still looking at this, there is an extension called indie wiki buddy. it disables the fandom link if there is an alternative.
I want a website that is like fandom but instead of having it's own wikis it just redirected you to the wikis themselves thus taking traffic from fandom and put it into something useful
Those limit break ads are wild. I dont even comsume that shit but its all over youtube and twitter
Theres an extension that redirects you to a different wiki of the same media if you click on a fandom website, if it exists
I tolerated the massive ads they put onto their pages but nowadays half the time I try to use fandom I end up getting an unavoidable redirect to a sketchy site. The second or third time it happened when I was looking up different pages for different properties I personally blacklisted them.
The Noita community has the *exact* same problem. They also pay to have higher results in google.
I feel like almost every game ever always has a fandom wiki and a real wiki
Many wikis have followed this path of dropping Fandom: the JoJo wiki, the Guilty Gear wiki, the Spanish Pokemon wiki, etc.
That audible groan I give when I accidentally click on the wrong link and get sent to the Fandom one 😒
Going onto fandom wikis on a phone is hell itself. No i don’t care about “another” fandom page. No i don’t care about the watchmojo top 10 booty pics vid that autoplays.
Literally covers half the screen every time you load a new page.
Trying to monetize publicly available knowledge should count as a crime.
If you forget, it's the one with Hissy in the logo.
I would rather have Pancreatitis than try to navigate Fandom ever again
Another great example of that sort of thing is the uesp vs the elder scrolls wiki
When money gets involved with anything fan or hobby related, it goes to ****.
It's incredibly funny to me how every single fandom in existence has beef with Fandom
This is also how I feel about UESP for Elder Scrolls and touhouwiki for Touhou.
thanks for the heads up!
No worries!
"Fux hard" lmao