Costing Roofing Systems for a Garden Room / Workshop. Insulated Panels v Timber / EPDM
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2024
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As a short follow up to my recent two part installation series of the insulated roof panels on my workshop, I decided to do a comparison in costings between Insulated Roof Panels and a traditional cold roof Timber / EPDM method. I have received a lot of questions recently about my roof so thought I could try and put as much information out there for folk as possible as there appears to be quite a lot of interest in these systems and garden rooms in general at the moment. Best Wishes, Leo
UPDATE: According to my UA-cam friend Daffyd, the subtitles get very confusing when I get to the specifics of the costs. To clarify here, if we were to take a basic sq metre cost factoring in everything (panels, flashings, VAT, fixings etc) then the approximate sq M cost for the Insulated Roof Panels comes in around £60 per Sq M, and the traditional Timber / EPDM around £68 per Sq M. This does not factor in labour costs and the ceiling of the traditional method at this price would be uncovered. Hope this makes sense😀
Please feel free to get in touch if you have any questions regarding this video. I am certainly no expert, but I have just been through the process of installing these and you might be thinking of doing the same.
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What were you expecting from a vid titled "Costing Roofing Systems for a Garden Room", explosions!? 😂
Numpty.
well what did you expect. he is merely discussing the cost and benefits between 2 roofing options, how exciting can it possibly be.
Really appreciate the time you’ve put to this - after months of researching cold/warm roof you’ve offered up the answer for me. Look forward to seeing yours completed. Many thanks
Thanks Alastair, thought it would be worth covering in some depth as it appears quite a few folk are interested in this system. Coupled with the rising costs of timber it might also be catching people’s eye as a suitable cost effective alternative 👍👍
Cheers Leo, food for thought. Surprising results.
Certainly is pal👍👍
Great video, really informative and the way your roof went up with ease there’s really only one way to go. Thanks for sharing looking forward to the next video’s 👍
Cheers Steve, just thought I’d share the info as it might help folk in their thinking about what roof system to use for their own buildings 👍👍
Thanks for taking the time for the comparative break down using current climate wood prices.
It’s incredible that the once ‘too expensive’ insulated roof panels now represent good value 😳😳
That was unexpected, and surprising. It shows the value of good research!
One year ago Tony it would have been seen as a more expensive but simpler alternative. Look at timber prices now and it’s no wonder more folk are looking at this system 🤷♂️👍
Thanks for the comparisons Leo, I expect a lot of people will be pleasantly surprised by them if they are planning a workshop build.
Thanks Mike and yes totally agree. For a self builder, you don’t need anywhere near as much knowledge to install these panels as opposed to a traditional roof. Plus the time saved is incredible. Been up a couple of weeks now and very impressed with them 👍👍
Wow, what a highway robbery price hike in lumber! 😳
Mate, so glad you chose to go with the panels instead,
they are far superior all round, even if the price of lumber didn't go up,
it's still better and will out last the alternative! 👍🏽
Way to go, buddy, knocked this one out of the park, I bet your chuffed.
Thanks Bill, yes really happy pal with my choice, not just the costings but with how much easier that system was for us to install. The timber prices are crazy now pal, totally out of order
For ease of installation alone it was a no-brainer for me Leo, and the costings seal the deal. Thanks for the research and your honesty.
Cheers Mandy, glad it’s been of some help to you😀👍
I had already seen the restoration couple video on this subject yours is much more informative I will certainly be using this system on my new workshop u
Cheers Alan for the very kind feedback and it’s genuinely appreciated 😀😀👍👍
Hi Leo, very interesting and certainly a bit of a surprise. Mike
Cheers Mike, certainly a surprise now when you look at the timber prices now. Things might settle down soon in terms of timber prices, but that is very unpredictable so it is worth looking at what I decided to go with 🤷♂️👍
That is eye-opening. Thank you!
Certainly is Andy. I knew it wasn’t going to be great timber wise, but the current prices are scandalous and my costing was quite conservative 😳🤷♂️
Great video - perfect timing as I am planning a new garage roof. Like you I am a keen amateur and would do it all myself. I did not fancy the options very much (they probably scarred me just a little) but this insulated panel approach is great - I am really grateful and your videos are a real motivation. For me the cost difference is fairly marginal when you spread it over years of service, but the lightweight, quick, easy, tidy aspect of this new system just make it such a winner for me - looks smart too and will have a long life. Keep this great stuff coming!
Thanks Neil and yes I would definitely recommend these panels. What I didn’t touch upon too much is the time / labour cost saved. Yourself and one other could get a garage roof size done in a day easily with all the flashings etc. Good luck and hope it goes well 😀👍
Thanks for the info pal,I’m building a new workshop at the moment,I’ve poured the slab (30square meters) and looking forward to the next stages.
I’m going to build it with insulated panels but I’m having a bit of trouble sourcing them. I’m based in Manchester,I’ve got everything else in place I just need the panels and I’m up and running. Thanks again for taking the time to share your information. 👍
Cheers Basil for your kind words, hope you get your distribution issues sorted👍👍. Cheers, Leo 😀👍
Thanks for the breakdown on costs
Cheers Roy, hope it is of some help👍
Thanks for the information, Leo. Good to know the different prices, and thanks for going to the trouble. I am contemplating building a garden room. As we live near the coast the wife says she would like it to look like three beach huts side by side? Maybe I am going to have fun with that roof?
Thanks Wil and 😳😳😳 good luck with that design 😳😳😳
Excellent. Thanks Leo. That really does confirm the way I would want to go. It looks like a beautifully finished roof. Finished on the inside as well. One thing I may research, unless you can tell me? I wonder if it possible to fit some sort of roof light/window in. Extra daylight is Always welcomed in a workshop.
Cheers Ashley, very kind of you. I believe there is a roof light option, if you have a butchers on the panelsell website then I’m sure there is a part where they address this. Decided against this option myself as natural light for filming isn’t the best to work with, but could well see that appeal for garden rooms 👍👍
Very interesting. I am moving to Wales soon and want to make a garden room ASAP as I am losing a room but need an all year studio/workshop. It would be handy if you also published your list of items from Panelsell so that I don't forget an item. Great info and I will go back and watch your videos of putting the roof up. I notice that Oakwood Garden Rooms is also using this system so it seems the way to go.
Thanks Paul. When I spoke with Pansell, they took all the details and talked through the ‘kit’ I’d need. You could pause the video on the invoice if you wanted to gauge what it entailed 👍👍
Eye opener....
It certainly is Ian. I’m not trying to influence folk one way or the other, but I think with the current timber price fluctuations they should consider all options 👍👍
Great info matey
Thanks Paul😀👍
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Good video. After completing a 7mx3.5m base using the oakwood rod system, I'm no longer sure I want to go ahead and frame out the walls and roof. I'm looking at SIP panels for the walls and Kingspan 80mm panels for the roof. Its a better system all round, no cold bridging, less work/effort, more reliable, and with current timber prices, cheaper all round. Makes complete sense.
It’s a matter of choice at the end of the day pal, but guess folk should look at all options 👍😀
The roof of my shed is 22' and 10' (which gives over hang over the 20'x8' shed) cost me around £200 for the roof and I made the rafters out of 3"x2" treated timber and I can stand on the roof. Without the wood that's around £10 per meter. As for the wood, it was about a pound a metre if I remember correctly.
Cheers for the cost break down here Benedict, hopefully will be of some use to folk reading this 👍👍
@@Hand-i-Craft mind you, mine is currently uninsulated, and condensation is an issue but I can resolve that for a few hundred pounds.
Also I did use seconds which means that the paint job isn't perfect.
Even if it was a couple of 100 more, I would consider it due to the ease of putting it up. You're right about the wood. I got some last year for a small electronics workbench top for my cellar and even that was 60 quid. Good job I had scrap for the frame which saved a few quid. How much do you think in total for the workshop material wise? Are you looking at maybe 4 grand?
Cheers pal and yes the cost of timber now is crazy. I’ll have to do a full costings at the end and I was lucky I bought most of the timber and boards around this time last year. I wouldn’t like to guess at this stage, but if I had to I’d say (including the roof but not electrics and ground works) I reckon a bit under 4.
@@Hand-i-Craft That'a a bargain. My kids have a business on the side and something like this would be ideal rather them storing everything in the house. Can't move for boxes in one room LOL.
It's a no brainer really when you see that. Even if the timber version was a few hundred cheaper, I still think the SIPs are a much better option due to ease of fitting.
Couldn’t agree more Rodger. I’m really happy with how it’s turning out. The roof going on seems to be making all ‘real’ now 😀😀
@@Hand-i-Craft that wee buzz you get as you reach milestones on a project is great, especially big steps forward such as roofing a structure.
Were these new panels? There are b-grade panels for less, they’re pretty much the same, just some scratches or different inside colours/ridges.
These were new panels Meme, but yes I believe there are ‘B’ panels available . Only issue is with any ‘seconds’ is their availability and do they have what you want available as seconds? If yes then fantastic, but the chances of this happening are somewhat remote 🤷♂️
@@Hand-i-Craft The place where I got mine had so many different lengths, from 1-2m offcuts to full 6m panels, and the other one only had 6m panels, so plenty of choice.
I couldn't quickly find any places in the uk that let you just order your own number of panels, or even offer to cut them for you, it seems panelsell has cornered the market over there and they only deal with lots of x number of panels. Actionclad may be worth a call, I can't find any pricing for them. But it may be worth calling around other places that deal with new panels to see if they have b-grade stock.
Since they're like lego, it may be worth getting a lot of 6 panels from A and another lot of 8 panels from B if you need 13 panels or whatever.
And massively quicker to fit. Significantly cheaper if you have to pay for labour
Absolutely. If you look at the two installation videos I did about these that is exactly what I said
Not many comments about weather damage during traditional builds. Costs and/or lesser quality.
I’ve done a follow up video about 12 months on from installation David if you’d like to check that out 👍
Hi, sorry to be a pain, but the captions were all over the place when it came to numbers. Would it be possible to have the rough price per square meter added to the description please? Cheers
Of course Dafydd, sorry to hear this and please don’t apologise. Give me 10 minutes and I’ll adjust the description 👍👍👍
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Wow I am shocked that traditional timber is more expensive!!!
@@DeafMaker My estimates on the timber option were very conservative as well pal😳
@@Hand-i-Craft well I am doubly shocked
where to buy
There is a link in the description to the company I purchased them from Vern👍
And you would’ve needed loads of joist hangers too. That’s about 100 quid too
Very good point Runza and you’ve just reminded me, I’ve got a load of them in the shed I bought last year! Will have to get them sold 👍👍