Hi, nice video! I have the SRAM RSC and changed the pads to Uberbikes, the blue ones (race matrix if my memory serves me right…) that was a great improvement!! 😊 I’m in the same position regarding choosing a light e-bike… they all seem good but I’ve reached analysisparalysis…
Yes! I have those on the crafty but still horrific! Changed the crafty to Formula Acura brakes now and so much better!! I will do the same to this one in time. If I can help with any questions please ask… I spent months researching!!
Hello Nat, being an actual owner I’d really like your opinion. I’ve been considering a crafty XR but heard the whiney Bosch motor on reviews and it put me off. What made you change? I’ve not been about to get a TQ demo yet but recently tried the specialised SL 1.2 and that was fine power wise. What do you see as the pro’s and con’s between both your Mondrakers? Thanks in advance.
Hi. Thanks for replying. This is the reason I posted these videos as I know this is a question many will ask. So I haven’t changed bikes. I am lucky enough to have both. I still own and love my crafty XR but wanted something lighter for bike park days and the days where a huge 750wh battery was not needed. So first off, I am a massive fan of the Bosch motor. I’ve had 5 e-bikes now all with the gen 4 motor. Ranging from my first Orbea Wild, my Whyte and my husband and sons bikes and through to my current crafty. The noise doesn’t bother me at all. My son has the Kenevo SL with the Marle motor which you said you like and that to me is much noisier than my Bosch. Welwyn we are riding side by side I can hear his motor over mine. Ofcourse, the TQ motor is silent so if it’s a noise factor that bothers you, the TQ wins hands down! The Mahle and the TQ has less torque and max output power compared to the full fat Bosch gen 4 so again, it depends if you want full on speed and power laps or if you like to feel you are putting the effort in too :) It’s hard to compare my mondrakers as they are so different. I would say if you are looking for something with some good power but still like the feel of a manual bike then the Neat is for you. If you want big power rides where the bike takes you up those mountains effortlessly then don’t be put off by the noise of the Bosch as I feel it’s minimal compared to other motors that I have ridden or ride with. You won’t go far wrong what ever you choose with the mondraker but decide the type of riding you want to do first and then decide purely on that rather than the noise.
@@MyWelshLife many thanks for the advice. For me it’s actually more important how the bike handles when pointing downhill. Does the lightness of the Neat have it or the Ohlins of the XR make for better descending?
Nice little video Nat. Just a quick note. The RR weight is actually 18.3kg/19.2kg with the battery extender fitted. The RR SL weight is 17.9kg/18.8kg Inc Battery Ext. So, compared to the bosch cx the TQ needs alot more pedal input/spinning before you can feel it helping/working ?
Yeah... 17/18kg... It's SO LIGHT!! It's a bit like turbo on the Bosch. Get the cadence up and it supports you a lot more but yes... Cadence is definitely what powers you but make no mistake, I am keeping up with the full fats on this bike (when they aren't in turbo haha). What takes a little getting used to is the trails. DH no problem but X Country/Enduro where there are pedally sections, you have to think a bit more! You have to make sure you are in the right gear like you would with a manual. Things where the full fat could power you out. This is why the X Country trail I did in Hopton, I ended up walking a little more than I'd like because I kept stalling!! haha...
Hi, thank you for your impressions of the brand new Neat. May I ask what size you are and what frame size your Neat is? I am 1.70 m and fluctuate between frame size S and M... 🤔
It’s an amazing bike! It’s a do all and go anywhere bike and the motor is so quiet yet punchy… you will love it! I’m a medium at 5ft 7 but as a woman I do tend to have longer legs. Do you have a dealer local to Ty them out?
@@Alex-ki6bl I have a medium at perfect for me at 5ft 7. Mondraker have a very different sizing to other bikes but I’m a medium in most bikes as I have longer legs
Hi, thx for the heads up on this one. I'm considering this bike, but am not very sure about the TQ motor.. 🤔 How is it holding up with that 50 nm? Does it have enough punch for steep long climbs? It's a very nice bike, enjoy it! :)
Thank you for your comment. I guess, the only thing I can say to you is try and find one to hire/test. It's a very different experience to that of a full fat Bosch motor etc... I don't think the less torque makes a huge difference as I can get up the same stuff on both the Neat and the Crafty, however, when you put your foot down on the Bosch motor you can feel the motor working for you whereas on the Neat with the TQ motor, you just feel like its ALL you that's putting in the work as its a far more natural feel. The cadence is what is key on the TQ. Get those legs spinning and it will give you peak power of 300W over the 600 a Bosch will provide
Hi, nice video! I have the SRAM RSC and changed the pads to Uberbikes, the blue ones (race matrix if my memory serves me right…) that was a great improvement!! 😊 I’m in the same position regarding choosing a light e-bike… they all seem good but I’ve reached analysisparalysis…
Yes! I have those on the crafty but still horrific! Changed the crafty to Formula Acura brakes now and so much better!! I will do the same to this one in time. If I can help with any questions please ask… I spent months researching!!
Hello Nat, being an actual owner I’d really like your opinion. I’ve been considering a crafty XR but heard the whiney Bosch motor on reviews and it put me off. What made you change? I’ve not been about to get a TQ demo yet but recently tried the specialised SL 1.2 and that was fine power wise. What do you see as the pro’s and con’s between both your Mondrakers? Thanks in advance.
Hi. Thanks for replying. This is the reason I posted these videos as I know this is a question many will ask. So I haven’t changed bikes. I am lucky enough to have both. I still own and love my crafty XR but wanted something lighter for bike park days and the days where a huge 750wh battery was not needed. So first off, I am a massive fan of the Bosch motor. I’ve had 5 e-bikes now all with the gen 4 motor. Ranging from my first Orbea Wild, my Whyte and my husband and sons bikes and through to my current crafty. The noise doesn’t bother me at all. My son has the Kenevo SL with the Marle motor which you said you like and that to me is much noisier than my Bosch. Welwyn we are riding side by side I can hear his motor over mine. Ofcourse, the TQ motor is silent so if it’s a noise factor that bothers you, the TQ wins hands down! The Mahle and the TQ has less torque and max output power compared to the full fat Bosch gen 4 so again, it depends if you want full on speed and power laps or if you like to feel you are putting the effort in too :)
It’s hard to compare my mondrakers as they are so different. I would say if you are looking for something with some good power but still like the feel of a manual bike then the Neat is for you. If you want big power rides where the bike takes you up those mountains effortlessly then don’t be put off by the noise of the Bosch as I feel it’s minimal compared to other motors that I have ridden or ride with. You won’t go far wrong what ever you choose with the mondraker but decide the type of riding you want to do first and then decide purely on that rather than the noise.
@@MyWelshLife many thanks for the advice. For me it’s actually more important how the bike handles when pointing downhill. Does the lightness of the Neat have it or the Ohlins of the XR make for better descending?
Nice little video Nat. Just a quick note. The RR weight is actually 18.3kg/19.2kg with the battery extender fitted. The RR SL weight is 17.9kg/18.8kg Inc Battery Ext. So, compared to the bosch cx the TQ needs alot more pedal input/spinning before you can feel it helping/working ?
Yeah... 17/18kg... It's SO LIGHT!!
It's a bit like turbo on the Bosch. Get the cadence up and it supports you a lot more but yes... Cadence is definitely what powers you but make no mistake, I am keeping up with the full fats on this bike (when they aren't in turbo haha). What takes a little getting used to is the trails. DH no problem but X Country/Enduro where there are pedally sections, you have to think a bit more! You have to make sure you are in the right gear like you would with a manual. Things where the full fat could power you out. This is why the X Country trail I did in Hopton, I ended up walking a little more than I'd like because I kept stalling!! haha...
Hi, thank you for your impressions of the brand new Neat. May I ask what size you are and what frame size your Neat is?
I am 1.70 m and fluctuate between frame size S and M... 🤔
It’s an amazing bike! It’s a do all and go anywhere bike and the motor is so quiet yet punchy… you will love it! I’m a medium at 5ft 7 but as a woman I do tend to have longer legs. Do you have a dealer local to Ty them out?
Yes, I have a local dealer. However, it doesn't have an S-frame (yet). What frame size do you have or is shown in the video?@@MyWelshLife
@@Alex-ki6bl I have a medium at perfect for me at 5ft 7. Mondraker have a very different sizing to other bikes but I’m a medium in most bikes as I have longer legs
Hi, thx for the heads up on this one. I'm considering this bike, but am not very sure about the TQ motor.. 🤔 How is it holding up with that 50 nm? Does it have enough punch for steep long climbs? It's a very nice bike, enjoy it! :)
Thank you for your comment. I guess, the only thing I can say to you is try and find one to hire/test. It's a very different experience to that of a full fat Bosch motor etc... I don't think the less torque makes a huge difference as I can get up the same stuff on both the Neat and the Crafty, however, when you put your foot down on the Bosch motor you can feel the motor working for you whereas on the Neat with the TQ motor, you just feel like its ALL you that's putting in the work as its a far more natural feel. The cadence is what is key on the TQ. Get those legs spinning and it will give you peak power of 300W over the 600 a Bosch will provide