SumoSprings for your Trailer, better ride, easier on your trailer.

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • We installed SumoSprings on my F150 and it improved the trailer stability and ride. We installed Sumo Springs for trailers and had even better improvement with the trailer ride. Not enough room between the axle and trailer frame so the axles would hit the water tank braces. Two of the 4 braces broke. Sumo Trailer Springs gave me more wheel clearance from the trailer frame and kept the axle from hitting the water tank brackets. The test trailer was toy hauler that normally was on rough roads getting to the trail head to ride our ATV's. mrtrailer.com/... mrtrailer.com/... #MrTrucktrailersumoreview #Trailering

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  • @rgknowlton1
    @rgknowlton1 2 роки тому +8

    In my perception, this doesn't make the energy within the axle and suspension go away. Rather, it just gives some of that energy another path to travel up into the trailer. The furious bouncing of the axle is lessened because some of that fury is now being transferred up into the rest of the trailer.
    I want to isolate the trailer *more* from the violence of the axle and suspension rather than increase it by providing more transmission paths for energy up into the trailer. Sumo Springs are essentially just softer bump stops and don't act like shocks because they're not attached at both ends and don't resist extending forces like a shock does. Sumo Springs only resist compression forces and will release that stored compression force as fast as they're permitted.
    Just my thoughts as I analyze the setup. Happy to hear other observations.

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  2 роки тому +2

      They work on a trailer, it's hard to had shock absorbers to to a trailer. Not enough room. I think Sumo for trailers to help smooth out the ride

    • @blakel4595
      @blakel4595 2 роки тому +2

      Yes the axle moving is what's keeping the energy from being transferred to the trailer. Think, if you welded the axle solid to the frame the axle wouldn't move at all in this type of video, but the ride in the trailer would be horrible and much harder on the tires / wheels / hubs etc because there's nothing to absorb the energy. A great example of this is the MythBusters episode regarding driving faster over bumps. They initially thought that because the suspension was moving more that that meant for a rougher ride then they realized the suspension moving more means it's working

    • @rgknowlton1
      @rgknowlton1 2 роки тому +1

      @@blakel4595 Right, and having another connection between the axle and the trailer (i.e. the Sumo Spring) transfers more energy into the trailer.

    • @SuperSpringsInternational
      @SuperSpringsInternational 2 роки тому

      Have you seen our video if testing them at the Navistar Proving Grounds? ua-cam.com/video/fySzbskmcag/v-deo.html
      - Tom

    • @Dave-fc4kq
      @Dave-fc4kq Рік тому

      I thought the same thing, however, after installing them, it made ALL the difference.

  • @original72canuck
    @original72canuck 4 роки тому +16

    Thanks for sharing! But with the complete different camera positioning I couldn’t tell the difference in any dampening of the axle vertical movement??? Would have been nice to see side by side vids playing at the same time along the exact same points along the road. Or better yet with some axle mount accelerometers. From the videos it seems like the did not make much difference to me....

  • @jerem0621
    @jerem0621 4 роки тому +2

    I just bought a new travel trailer and I want to install these! Thank you for the GREAT video.

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  4 роки тому +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @SuperSpringsInternational
    @SuperSpringsInternational 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for the review Mr Truck!

  • @ricwestdoesitwork
    @ricwestdoesitwork 4 роки тому +3

    Looks like those sumo suspension springs are doing the job. Thanks for sharing Kent enjoy the video.

  • @paulrodrigues9603
    @paulrodrigues9603 4 роки тому +3

    Seems like a great idea judging by the slamming around of the axle on a normal road.

  • @davemiller3027
    @davemiller3027 4 роки тому +1

    Great video!!! Much thanks for sharing. This will be a great upgrade for our TT.
    You and your family have a Merry Christmas!!

  • @jeffaboularage1450
    @jeffaboularage1450 3 роки тому +3

    I can’t wait to try these on my horse trailer, along with a smoother ride for myself, I’m sure my horses will feel less road vibration in their joints? Thanks for all you do Mr. Truck.

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  3 роки тому

      You're welcome. We sell them on MrTruck.com. Thanks, Kent

  • @LuisPerez-vy6bz
    @LuisPerez-vy6bz 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for sharing the video Sir! Much appreciated. I might have a question or two when it comes to these Sumo Springs. These look like the most straight forward and no drilling kit I’ve come across so far and I want to install them on my 2019 Coachmen Apex Nano, which has a dual axle. I’m not 100% sure whether I need to go with the 3000-5000 GAWR, or the 5000-8000 GAWR spring over axle configuration. Any guidance or advice would be greatly appreciated!

  • @williamrizzo1285
    @williamrizzo1285 3 роки тому

    My Welds broke on my working play brackets as well. I ended up drilling them out and through bolting them with lock washers.

  • @dennishageman4947
    @dennishageman4947 3 роки тому +1

    I think you mean spring hanger that is welded to the frame. The shackles are only attached to the equalizer and spring.

  • @milwaukeevibe
    @milwaukeevibe Рік тому +1

    Looks like you may wanna Reinforce the Spring shackles. You can see them flexing in the video

  • @andrewpaulson2877
    @andrewpaulson2877 3 роки тому

    I put a set on my truck it was very helpful tundra and I also put a set on my cargo trailer single axle 1700 lb cargo trailer it's got to help

  • @danlux4954
    @danlux4954 2 роки тому

    I see why mine break where they do, so much flex.

  • @alenrosas
    @alenrosas 2 роки тому

    im sold.

  • @MajTom-wd2yt
    @MajTom-wd2yt 9 місяців тому

    Our solution was to buy a trailer with torsion axles, where the rubber springs are inside the axles...
    POI...why would anyone buy a trailer that doesn't have shocks? Even our Dexter Torsion axle has them.👍

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  9 місяців тому

      Most trailers don't have shocks

  • @visitors9847
    @visitors9847 3 роки тому +2

    Maybe my old eyes. But I did not notice any difference in the videos. Maybe a synchronized side by side video would help.

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  3 роки тому

      We had trouble getting the camera at the same zoom for each run

  • @Humble-Engine
    @Humble-Engine 2 роки тому +1

    Thank for your video, do you recommend the summo springs over an equalizer upgrade? I wanted to do one or the other. Your thoughts would help.

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  2 роки тому

      You bet, well Sumo's work more of like a shock absorber only letting the trailer sag less, controlling the leaf springs rebound. Equalizer upgrade does take some of the shock out of the leaf suspension

  • @crackerjack9120
    @crackerjack9120 4 роки тому +2

    Mr Truck, I posted this comment on your Facebook page also. Do you know how the Sumo springs will compare to Timbren springs? I had Timbrens on an older truck, and they worked great as far as leveling the truck with a load, but the ride was stiff and bumpy, but they kept weight off the axel. What I have seen from your video, the Sumos may be better on a trailer. I have airbags on my truck, so I do not think I should add the Sumos or Timbrens. Thank you for your advise and videos.

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  4 роки тому +2

      Thank you. Sumo's are softer than Timbrens. I like the smoother ride of Sumo's. But Timbren only has I think 3 part numbers, less complicated. Sumo probably has 10 applications for each truck

  • @ldcooper1
    @ldcooper1 3 роки тому

    With the change in camera position as the previous reply indicated, it is difficult to do an “apples to apples” comparison.

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  3 роки тому

      Yes, we discussed that in the comments. I was using a Go Pro 7 and could barely see the picture. And it was difficult to use with a phone. Not a mistake I do often

  • @cesargalvan3750
    @cesargalvan3750 3 роки тому +1

    Good day, I have a small enclosed trailer ( 4x6) just for camping, axle rated for 3000 lbs, do you recommend this product?
    2- what will be the correct weight to maintain the balance between axle weight and “confort”) to avoid the bounce?
    Thank you.regards from Mexico, great videos

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  3 роки тому

      Does you truck squat with a 3000 lb trailer?

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  3 роки тому +1

      If bouncing is the main concern, you had add spacers to the Sumo Springs to control bounce

    • @cesargalvan3750
      @cesargalvan3750 3 роки тому

      @@MrTruckTV nop, 0 squat, my truck is a Mitsubishi 4x4 diésel diesel 4 cil( year 17) rated for 1 ton and 2.3 ton to tow..thanks for your advice

  • @TheEliteAnimal
    @TheEliteAnimal 2 роки тому

    Hey nice video. Could you also add shocks to this also or would it be over kill for a small trailer to help with bounce? Thanks for your time.

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  2 роки тому

      Thanks, shocks my help, I just don't know where to mount them

  • @christvb8013
    @christvb8013 2 роки тому

    I think I need these on my flatbed. I haul a 4 series tractor and I've broken all leafsprings over the last year. Hoping it will help 👍

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  2 роки тому +1

      Well here is more info, but the leaf springs can only be 1 3/4 inches wide mrtrailer.com/springs.htm

    • @blakel4595
      @blakel4595 2 роки тому

      If you are breaking leaf springs sounds like you need larger axles with the matching larger springs, or possibly a heavier duty trailer. Yes these will help keep you from breaking your leaf springs but that means that force is transferring away from your leaf springs but instead into the trailer frame and axles Wheels tires

  • @dougsmith9028
    @dougsmith9028 4 роки тому +4

    The camera should have had the same angle for both shots. The first angle was better. By changing it there is no way to tell the difference.

    • @danatkinson6698
      @danatkinson6698 4 роки тому

      You just have to look a bit harder to see the difference. It took out the smaller vibrations and controlled the larger ones little bit

    • @dougsmith9028
      @dougsmith9028 4 роки тому

      In the first camera angle one could watch the liquid in the tank, it was a good gauge,the second one the tank wasn't visible.

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  4 роки тому

      @@dougsmith9028 Yes I think I had the camera in the same place, but the zoom was different on the first one

  • @lanceschul
    @lanceschul 2 роки тому

    Thinking of putting these on my Ram3500. I have airbags now and I hate playing the pressure game. My camper is 4,000 pounds dry. Do you think these would be a great alternative?

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  2 роки тому

      I like them for lighter loads. For 4000 lb camper I would prefer Roadmaster springs or SuperSprings

  • @petdoctor3
    @petdoctor3 3 роки тому

    U bolts appear only good for 4 leaf springs. Will they fit over a 6 leaf?

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  3 роки тому

      good question, I'll have to as Super Springs. I know they are coming out with a heavy duty model

  • @Ryan_Brittany
    @Ryan_Brittany 4 роки тому

    Heard you need help moving? Got and f350 DRW and open 2 car hauler ya need hELP I’m there!

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  4 роки тому

      Thanks, I have one week to go. Today my daughter and wifes siste are getting their crap out of my barn. Tomorrow Andre is helping tomorrow load a trailer, Monday my youngest son and I move 3 project cars and then I will me two more loads after Christmas. If we cut it short, I'll email you.

  • @bveitz15
    @bveitz15 2 роки тому

    How does the trailer do with crosswinds with the sumo springs? How are they now two years later?

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  2 роки тому +1

      I took off the Sumo Springs and went with Roadmaster. The big difference was Road Master is always connected to the trucks leaf springs. Sumo Springs and Timbren on contact the springs when you are loaded. Roadmaster controls squat and improves the trucks empty ride. Here's my video ua-cam.com/video/-eyXMEQlxe8/v-deo.html

    • @nickradeke
      @nickradeke 2 роки тому

      @@MrTruckTV that's the truck suspension. This video is on the camper suspension with the sumo springs. Did the sumo springs help with handling and sway from the trailer?

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  2 роки тому +1

      @@nickradeke Oh thanks, yes, they worked like shock absorbers and kept the trailer from bottoming out. This trailer had large fresh water tank between the axles and getting too close to the axles. SumoSprings kept the tanks away from the axles.

    • @nickradeke
      @nickradeke 2 роки тому

      @@MrTruckTV thank you for the quick reply. My water tanks are in-between my axels and I don't think I will have room for shocks. This might be a good alternative. I actually have sumo springs for my f150 and have not regretted them.

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  2 роки тому +1

      @@nickradeke That's great, I wish there was an easy way to add shocks to trailers, usually not enough room. That's why I tired the trailer sumo springs and sell them. They are the best solution I could find.

  • @shhall1980
    @shhall1980 4 роки тому +1

    Can you feel a difference transferred to the truck? Chucking or harshness over the bumps?

    • @mattjhuhn
      @mattjhuhn 4 роки тому +1

      Really want to know this too... I'm on the verge of ordering an add on shock kit, but this would be so much easier.

    • @SuperSpringsInternational
      @SuperSpringsInternational 4 роки тому

      @@mattjhuhn Naturally, if you take care of the weight distribution on the trailer, and don't address the truck (front and rear ideally) you're going to feel some of that chucking. The weight has to go somewhere! We suggest going to our website and using our year/make/model to find your truck for a full solution. We'd also love to chat you or talk on the phone to suggest the best solution for your setup. Cheers! -T.

  • @CharlesinGA
    @CharlesinGA 4 роки тому +2

    Hate to be critical, but in your intro, you are talking about the sumo springs, and waving the one in your hand in such a way that it is out of the camera view half the time. Set your product down on a table and carefully move it around so it can be seen from all angles.
    "Sumo Trailer Springs gave me more wheel travel and kept the axle from hitting the water tank brackets." I will agree with the second part of your statement, but the first, no, you didn't gain even a frogs hair of suspension travel, in fact, it restricted the travel enough to keep the axle from hitting the tank brace.
    At 4:15 and again at 5:33 you refer to the fixed eye end of the spring as the "shackle" which it is NOT, the shackle, and the equalizer end, are one and the same. At 3:28 you refer to the tank as a "hundred and ten gallon fresh water tank" and at 5:12 you refer to the tank as a "hundred and ten gallon fuel tank". OOPS.
    It would help to script your videos and then review the finished product for errors and at least add text corrections on the screen at the point of the error. Practically all UA-camrs do this.
    Different before and after camera angles make any determination of which is better impossible on the video. What scares me is the amount of flex in the spring attachment bracket in the before shots. Brackets flex and the frame is probably twisting also. Sumo probably stops this, but impossible to tell with the different camera mounting locations before and after.

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  4 роки тому

      Yes, you're right. I got in a hurry. I shot before and after on different days and thought I had the camera in the same place I think I had more zoom on the after video. I'm in the middle of moving my office farther in the country and have been rushed all month.

    • @cathalduffy8077
      @cathalduffy8077 4 роки тому +2

      Take a breath Siskel & Ebert...

    • @CatheysKid
      @CatheysKid 4 роки тому +1

      You are absolutely correct in your comments... I like Mr Truck videos... but this missed the mark a bit...

  • @Davidipac
    @Davidipac 3 роки тому

    Is there a link to buy?

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  3 роки тому

      Yes, mrtrailer.com/springs.htm Thanks, Kent

  • @Copenator333
    @Copenator333 4 роки тому

    Did you install 4 sumo springs or 2?

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  4 роки тому

      Usually the rear but they make them for the front also

    • @MrTruckTV
      @MrTruckTV  4 роки тому

      Sorry, thought you were talking about trucks. Yes all 4, you want them on all your trailer axles.

    • @Copenator333
      @Copenator333 4 роки тому

      Thanks for the response. And thanks for the videos!

  • @victorvasquez8781
    @victorvasquez8781 4 роки тому

    To many adds interrupting the video. thumbs down.