He's a biological father who has delegated responsibility for the care of his kids to their mother. That's what managers do, right? Avoid the hard jobs by dumping them on someone else.
Unless the job is stated no opinion can be made. Surgeon, crew member of space station, tank driver during wartime, pilot mid flight, minister on Sunday morning,racing sidecar passenger, others?
I was about to thumbs up her till the suspicious statement about not having anyone to support her. Likely she divorced her husband at 93% cases modern women destroy the family now....smh
Don't ever phrase having an emergency as optional. Your kids had an emergency, you're not asking permission to leave early, you're informing your boss that you are leaving right now.
So, the manager's plan is to lose a good employee who is making sure she's caught up with all her work, because her leaving early is more disruptive to the team than having to find someone to replace her.
@@the_w189 I mean the man can sometimes have to go … I am a father and I have had to leave work so how do you figure that? You can’t say birth rates are falling I. The west that’s bad and then say something like that
@@the_w189i saw you reply under a different comment that "i am a father" does not mean "my wife does it", yet here you are being a limp wristed cretin spouting hate about how women are not dependable at work. it just seems you have an overwhelming love for men and a disdain at best toward women, even your own mother. do you need to talk about how much you want to take it up the ass by other men?
I love the responses from her - also what I’ve found about being an effective manager is being able to troubleshoot items like this with your team. It all comes full circle eventually, someone has personal issues this week and the team will pick up the slack
Me: “You don’t want me to leave to care for my child because of work responsibilities?” Dumbass boss: “correct” Me: “looks like it doesn’t matter because I am leaving and consider my two weeks notice served out.” Dumbass boss: “you didn’t give notice” Me: “sure I did and today is the last day” Dumbass boss: “that’s not true” Me: “oh darn I forgot to tell you two weeks ago? Well it doesn’t matter because I’m out of here and it sucks to be you!”
@@robinhood7275 And there's the point. It's almost like most people forget that employment is a two-way street. If I'm going to sign away my time and effort into a business, that business better have at least a minimum concern for my best interests
@jamesrobertson5370 No, he's not right. Having occasional emergencies while being a parent is par for the course. There is no world where that doesn't happen. If the job can't handle an otherwise well-organised and conscientious employee leaving a couple of hours early or taking half a day off to take care of health emergencies, then they don't have their shit together and are not well-organized. While of course trying to browbeat the employee on the spot for having to care for her child. A company made up of professional adults doesn't have people acting this way. If they feel an issue of repeated absences by the employee needs to be addressed, then they make an appointment and talk with her about it. Also asking if she may need some help or accommodations. Absolutely manipulative and toxic behavior.
Dan, if you're reading this, NEVER make the mistake of asking your employees to choose between their job and their family unless you already have their replacement ready and waiting. Because I can absolutely guarantee that had you said that to most employees, they'd be packing their stuff up and not coming back. And good luck fighting the constructive dismissal claim. You'd lose.
God. It’s so infuriating to see just how many employers have this attitude. Since I’ve had my child, I’ve left 3 employers due to this exact attitude. This same exact exchange happened with one after my child’s face turned blue and I had to bring her to hospital. I no longer work. It happened again at the next employer when my child had chickenpox, and they asked me to get my parents to mind MY child. Is it any wonder so many women drop out of the workforce?
well just remember things we relatively good when women stayed home and kept the home and raised children. then greed figured out half the population can make them money too. effectively killing the nuclear family along with the welfare state... now people wonder where things went wrong.
This is a big one because it concerns many people and their struggle to balance private and professional life. Not cool when companies don't support you.
When my eldest was young he had a bout of croup, rang in work to let them know i wouldnt be in work.went back a few days later and was actualy told my job comes first i promptly turned round and walked out . No job comes before my sick kids
Like a school is going to let just 'somebody' pick up a child. At least in the USA the school has a list of those 'emergency contacts' who are allowed to pickup a child WITH a phone call from a parent/guardian before they show up. If you aren't on the list you will NOT be given custody of that child. Also, if the school nurse calls you there is no choice but to respond as soon as possible.
So many employers go on these kinds of power trips. I remember being told i was fired because i needed to be hospitalized for pneumonia. Management like this needs to be fired themselves
That supervisor must by an absent or completely useless "dad". If my children need me i drop everything and anything to be there for them. Theres always another job to be found, but you cant replace your children.
And this is the problem with mothers in the workplace, because everyone has to pick up their slack, because their kids need them at home and actually being moms.
Most jobs now, no matter what the circumstances, it goes down as a negative, I had a car accident involving hitting a kid on my lunch break, I had to take a little sedative as I was in a mess. The kid was fine, bruised and scratched up. I obviously called in to work to explain I'd not be back that day. Had a meeting with HR when I returned and they gave me a bollocking for not coming back to work and a mark on my file.. Bastards
And then there are people like me, coming in on a beautiful sunny morning. I go to my boss and tell him, that i'm going to leave in 4 hours for a ride in my convertible. I dont ask, I just inform😇
A UK case - employee off work with stress. Agreed adjustment and support to help employee back to work. All support withdrawn very quickly despite the promise. Employee went off sick with stress and his doctor said he will never be able to work again. Employer had to pay employees salary and benefits up to his scheduled retirement date, as deemed they caused the illness.
"I have a legal responsibility to the safety and health of my child, however I do not have a legal responsibility to completing my tasks at work. I am not asking if I can ensure my child is safe and healthy, but I will ensure my tasks here will be completed on time and up to specification" then leave, because honestly HR would hate to have to deal with this if the manager punished you
I was a single parent of 3 children and never once let someone I was working for down. I had a pool of childcare providers I had gone to some effort to establish so there would be always someone I could get to step in if a child became ill whilst I was working. My family live in another continent so have never been able to rely on informal childcare arrangements. Sometimes my having to pay for childcare in such instances meant I was out of pocket to work - but my integrity and commitment to my then work mattered a lot to me. I did not ever want to be unreliable on account of my being a single parent. I was able to honour both my commitment to whomever I was working for as well as honour my commitment to my children, and believe other parents can do so as well - so agree with the boss in this instance. Parents need to work out how they will still honour their employment commitments were their child to become sick before agreeing to undertake a role. Serious medical emergencies excepted obviously, I am speaking of children being sent home from school or nursery for cold or flu or suchlike more minor ailments.
I once had a boss complain I had to end work early because of no internet service. Mind you about two weeks earlier, I sent an email along with screenshots to the team explaining that the utility company would be working in the area replacing poles and I might lose connection between certain hours. Apparently, the boss thought I could control a multibillion dollar utility’s business operations. 😂
Shocking, a dad make sacrifices for work. It's like.. a norm since decades. Should give him standing ovations for leaving his wife alone with everything?
STOP ASKING. Why do you people ask? Personal is always more important and none of their business. I need to leave early. Personal reasons. If they can't respect that, you leave and call HR.
People who aren't worried about their home situation tend to be healthier and more productive. People who are very worried tend to be unproductive. This is a no-brainer. Health and family go before work. And when you treat people right like that, they tend to be there when you or others are in a tough spot. Thus creating higher performing teams!
I'd have left already to be honest. I wouldn't be arguing over WhatsApp. If the boss gave me any agro I'd go straight to HR, and if I was let go over it, I'd go to a tribunal. There is not a chance in hell people are expecting me to choose anything over my kids. I'd be laughing all the way to the bank after the tribunal
It's a weird one. On the one hand if it's a one off then I can see an employer being accommodating, but if it happens a lot then they start asking the difficult questions. I know someone who always used their kid being sick as an excuse to leave early, but it happened so often they got investigated and it was found out just from their Facebook page that they were lying. No posts about a sick child, even though it happened almost weekly, lots of posts about getting off work early. They were told from now on if they had to leave early due to their child they would have to produce some kind of documentation for the files. Just a letter from the school or something from the doctor. Oddly they quit shortly afterwards.
This one is weird because they aren't asking or informing they are leaving immediately. What time is it? They say an hour early so the kid is in the nurse or principal's office until then? And yeah, it sounds like something that has become a regular thing. So maybe the employee needs to meet with their manager to work out some way to accommodate the family. It seems weird to bring this up in text and not have a 1:1 with the employee after.
My daughters school called about her being sick. I notified my supervisor that I would be leaving early to pick my daughter up from school cause she was sick. Go and call if you need tomorrow off was the response from my boss
I had a math prof in my first semester of college that when i dont her my grandmother was dying an dI would be out for about 2 weeks, said she was raising a family and she was still there. I looked at her dead in the eyes and said they werent dying are they? I walked out and didnt go back to her class and spent what few days I had left with my grandmother
simple solution, No problem, You can leave early, then we will see you in an hour early the following day. Flexibility goes both ways. or you work and extra 10 min per day for the next week, so the hours are still the same I don't care when my staff turn up and go, so long as they get the hours in, if they want to do an hour, then leave and hour, then come back so be it. if someone wants to start at 6 and finish and 2, then the next day they want to do a 8 till 4, or a 10 to 6. fine. do the hours, i don't care. the facility is open 24/7 so it makes zero odds at all
Supervisor is correct. The company is not responsible for the situation this woman has put herself in. She cannot claim this has not happend a lot so this is appently the straw. Women, you wanted equality and here you are crying because you got it.
He doesn't believe she has a sick kid but is using an excuse. Let's assume that's true. How would you, as an employer, handle that. Let's also assume the coworkers are getting sick and tired of covering for her early days out. Go.
So honestly I’m with Dan. Why should the company have to tolerate an employee that works less and is absent more than any other employee. I would replace her with someone that wants to see the company succeed and grow instead of catering to someone’s needs. If you can’t manage your home life and work life. Then find a more flexible job like Walmart or some shit.
But why is the son constantly ill ? The Boss is right . Disrupts the whole team . I hate these type of entitled people . Just take a sick leave for god’s sake .
How is it anyone's fault that the kid gets sick more often? He could have a weaker immune system or some autoimmune disease You would rather the employee just doesn't show up at all?
As a mother I get where she's coming from. However from the gist of the conversation it seems she's using the "my child is sick excuse" quite a bit and people are starting to notice. I've worked with men and women like this.
As long as other coworkers don't have to cover in anyway, no biggie. But I (F) resent like heII covering tasks, phones, open office hours for parent coworkers who *always* need more coverage. We all have common times we need if - but I don't want to cover for a hungover guy who partied the night before anymore than a parent. Yeah, know I'm in the minority & don't care.
Imagine saying “I’m a dad too” and then demanding that your staff member ignore their sick kid. You might be a dad but obviously not a good one. 👎
When he said 'I'm a dad" he meant I have some children that my wife 100% raises like a single mom because they aren't a priority for me!
He's a biological father who has delegated responsibility for the care of his kids to their mother. That's what managers do, right? Avoid the hard jobs by dumping them on someone else.
Unless the job is stated no opinion can be made.
Surgeon, crew member of space station, tank driver during wartime, pilot mid flight, minister on Sunday morning,racing sidecar passenger, others?
He forgot to add, "I'm also an asshole."
@@allanmason3201Caring for kids isn't that hard
"We all have to make sacrifices" when he's referring to your kids.
I was about to thumbs up her till the suspicious statement about not having anyone to support her. Likely she divorced her husband at 93% cases modern women destroy the family now....smh
@rejectionistmanifesto8836 or it could that her husband is working away and both sets of parents are dead!
@@andrewtadd4373 Or, even worse, "Julia" is a widow
@@andrewtadd4373 In those cases I would side with her 100%
@@rejectionistmanifesto8836 so perhaps don’t make ridiculous assumptions about her life???
Don't ever phrase having an emergency as optional.
Your kids had an emergency, you're not asking permission to leave early, you're informing your boss that you are leaving right now.
Your children are your first responsibility
So, the manager's plan is to lose a good employee who is making sure she's caught up with all her work, because her leaving early is more disruptive to the team than having to find someone to replace her.
His kids probably hate when he's home
That’s an instant start looking for something else, if they can’t flex for that then I can’t imagine what they’re like for other things.
Disgusting.
I that manager was in my employment they would get an immediate written warning.
"I'm a dad too" yeah an awful one
SHE GOT HIM
This is how companies do it. They pay u so little so they can threaten ur family if u dont comply
Dan is a dad but I'll bet Dan's wife is a single parent.
No way he suggested "sacrificing" a child for a job🤯
Since when is anyone indispensable when it comes to work?
Never.
What a prat! Fantastic comeback about his wife, classic!!!! Report to HR if available, this is harassment!
Boo hoo.
@@jamesrobertson5370 Can't you cry pathetically by yourself without commenting about it in a youtube comment section? Talk about attention seeking!
Dan needs 1 hour in his caveman when he comes home to decompress.. Dan throws the trash out sometimes...
Cannot stop staff leaving if they have dependants, not unless you want a very uncomfortable conversation with courts.
Yeah, apparently a business cannot depend on women, damn.....
@@the_w189or maybe your mean PARENTS🤨
@@the_w189 I mean the man can sometimes have to go … I am a father and I have had to leave work so how do you figure that? You can’t say birth rates are falling I. The west that’s bad and then say something like that
@@the_w189i saw you reply under a different comment that "i am a father" does not mean "my wife does it", yet here you are being a limp wristed cretin spouting hate about how women are not dependable at work. it just seems you have an overwhelming love for men and a disdain at best toward women, even your own mother. do you need to talk about how much you want to take it up the ass by other men?
Forget your son, your team is your family
I don't understand the issue if her work is DONE... He has a lack of reading comprehension skills.
I love the responses from her - also what I’ve found about being an effective manager is being able to troubleshoot items like this with your team. It all comes full circle eventually, someone has personal issues this week and the team will pick up the slack
That's what Teams are about.
The manager should be the Coach.
"I'm a dad too" how did I know that mean "my wife does that"
Nope, it means, both my wife and me do it.
@the_w189 good for you two, but I was taking about the video
Dan, “I’m a dad too Julia”
Julia, “I’m not a dad, I’m a mother.”
The End
Me: “You don’t want me to leave to care for my child because of work responsibilities?”
Dumbass boss: “correct”
Me: “looks like it doesn’t matter because I am leaving and consider my two weeks notice served out.”
Dumbass boss: “you didn’t give notice”
Me: “sure I did and today is the last day”
Dumbass boss: “that’s not true”
Me: “oh darn I forgot to tell you two weeks ago? Well it doesn’t matter because I’m out of here and it sucks to be you!”
What I said, one time, was: "You want a notice? OK, notice me walking out the f'k'n door".
I remember the first time I hear the phrase "The needs of the business comes before family". It makes working so much more stressful.
I would just stopped at my son is sick, see you tomorrow.
Fair enough… an employer that is not willing to understand is one that does not deserve your labor… there are plenty that will….
@@robinhood7275 And there's the point. It's almost like most people forget that employment is a two-way street. If I'm going to sign away my time and effort into a business, that business better have at least a minimum concern for my best interests
And apparently it happens often, so maybe she needs a different job, like he suggested. He's right.
@jamesrobertson5370 or maybe he has a chronic illness that sometimes goes into remission.
@jamesrobertson5370 No, he's not right.
Having occasional emergencies while being a parent is par for the course.
There is no world where that doesn't happen.
If the job can't handle an otherwise well-organised and conscientious employee leaving a couple of hours early or taking half a day off to take care of health emergencies, then they don't have their shit together and are not well-organized.
While of course trying to browbeat the employee on the spot for having to care for her child.
A company made up of professional adults doesn't have people acting this way.
If they feel an issue of repeated absences by the employee needs to be addressed, then they make an appointment and talk with her about it. Also asking if she may need some help or accommodations.
Absolutely manipulative and toxic behavior.
Dan, if you're reading this, NEVER make the mistake of asking your employees to choose between their job and their family unless you already have their replacement ready and waiting. Because I can absolutely guarantee that had you said that to most employees, they'd be packing their stuff up and not coming back.
And good luck fighting the constructive dismissal claim. You'd lose.
God. It’s so infuriating to see just how many employers have this attitude. Since I’ve had my child, I’ve left 3 employers due to this exact attitude. This same exact exchange happened with one after my child’s face turned blue and I had to bring her to hospital. I no longer work. It happened again at the next employer when my child had chickenpox, and they asked me to get my parents to mind MY child. Is it any wonder so many women drop out of the workforce?
well just remember things we relatively good when women stayed home and kept the home and raised children. then greed figured out half the population can make them money too. effectively killing the nuclear family along with the welfare state... now people wonder where things went wrong.
This is a big one because it concerns many people and their struggle to balance private and professional life. Not cool when companies don't support you.
Say it to my face, Dan.
And there’s where the father needs a new job if they need him “SO MUCH!” I bet they don’t pay him “SO MUCH!”
She needs to forward all this to HR. He threatened her job because her child was sick.
I never asked for permission to leave for an emergency, alerted somebody
Sounds like an old boss of mine. Threatened two women, one whose husband was dying, and the other needing an operation.
When my eldest was young he had a bout of croup, rang in work to let them know i wouldnt be in work.went back a few days later and was actualy told my job comes first i promptly turned round and walked out . No job comes before my sick kids
That is one of my worst fears as a mother
Take it to HR and if they don't support you quit due to "hostile work envioment"
“I’m leaving now to pick up my sick kid. See you tomorrow.”
Like a school is going to let just 'somebody' pick up a child. At least in the USA the school has a list of those 'emergency contacts' who are allowed to pickup a child WITH a phone call from a parent/guardian before they show up. If you aren't on the list you will NOT be given custody of that child. Also, if the school nurse calls you there is no choice but to respond as soon as possible.
Uk has the same rules.
What’s really sad is when you get this and you are a teacher.
Great for them to call him back out.
she should have said that i am not asking, i am telling you
Tell me ya have a 1920s mindset without tellin me you have a 1920s mind set! 🤣 And i can guarantee, his wife is NOT happy ✌🏼🤣💀
So many employers go on these kinds of power trips. I remember being told i was fired because i needed to be hospitalized for pneumonia. Management like this needs to be fired themselves
We all have to make sacrifices. 'So you want me to sacrifice my son?'
That supervisor must by an absent or completely useless "dad". If my children need me i drop everything and anything to be there for them. Theres always another job to be found, but you cant replace your children.
In these situations you don’t ask you tell them you’re going.
Really, for leaving just one hour early?? Seriously?
And this is the problem with mothers in the workplace, because everyone has to pick up their slack, because their kids need them at home and actually being moms.
Most jobs now, no matter what the circumstances, it goes down as a negative, I had a car accident involving hitting a kid on my lunch break, I had to take a little sedative as I was in a mess. The kid was fine, bruised and scratched up. I obviously called in to work to explain I'd not be back that day. Had a meeting with HR when I returned and they gave me a bollocking for not coming back to work and a mark on my file.. Bastards
Maybe someone needs to remind him about the legal right to ordinary parental leave
And then there are people like me, coming in on a beautiful sunny morning.
I go to my boss and tell him, that i'm going to leave in 4 hours for a ride in my convertible.
I dont ask, I just inform😇
This is giving Lord Farquhar vibes.
I never ask for time off in an emergency. I tell them I'm taking the time, whether they like it or not.
« Just as much » is crazy talk…
Fire her, i will never stop. She is making shit up if it happening a lot.
A UK case - employee off work with stress. Agreed adjustment and support to help employee back to work. All support withdrawn very quickly despite the promise.
Employee went off sick with stress and his doctor said he will never be able to work again.
Employer had to pay employees salary and benefits up to his scheduled retirement date, as deemed they caused the illness.
Yep, everyone expects women to work like we have no children, and raise children like we don't work.
Thank the unions for unlimited paid leave for sick kids /Sweden
"I have a legal responsibility to the safety and health of my child, however I do not have a legal responsibility to completing my tasks at work. I am not asking if I can ensure my child is safe and healthy, but I will ensure my tasks here will be completed on time and up to specification"
then leave, because honestly HR would hate to have to deal with this if the manager punished you
I was a single parent of 3 children and never once let someone I was working for down. I had a pool of childcare providers I had gone to some effort to establish so there would be always someone I could get to step in if a child became ill whilst I was working. My family live in another continent so have never been able to rely on informal childcare arrangements.
Sometimes my having to pay for childcare in such instances meant I was out of pocket to work - but my integrity and commitment to my then work mattered a lot to me. I did not ever want to be unreliable on account of my being a single parent.
I was able to honour both my commitment to whomever I was working for as well as honour my commitment to my children, and believe other parents can do so as well - so agree with the boss in this instance.
Parents need to work out how they will still honour their employment commitments were their child to become sick before agreeing to undertake a role. Serious medical emergencies excepted obviously, I am speaking of children being sent home from school or nursery for cold or flu or suchlike more minor ailments.
If that boss is a dad he clearly isn't a good one saying his job is more important then his children what a joke
BS like this is why I never asked for permission. If something in my life needs attention, I will not be available for work.
I’m a dad too - yeah and? Your wife probably picks them up from school when they are sick
I once had a boss complain I had to end work early because of no internet service. Mind you about two weeks earlier, I sent an email along with screenshots to the team explaining that the utility company would be working in the area replacing poles and I might lose connection between certain hours. Apparently, the boss thought I could control a multibillion dollar utility’s business operations. 😂
Shocking, a dad make sacrifices for work. It's like.. a norm since decades. Should give him standing ovations for leaving his wife alone with everything?
The punch line: These two are husband/wife.
STOP ASKING. Why do you people ask? Personal is always more important and none of their business. I need to leave early. Personal reasons. If they can't respect that, you leave and call HR.
People who aren't worried about their home situation tend to be healthier and more productive. People who are very worried tend to be unproductive. This is a no-brainer. Health and family go before work. And when you treat people right like that, they tend to be there when you or others are in a tough spot. Thus creating higher performing teams!
Well.
That's what happens when you don't have a partner... I agree with the boss
Lil Timmy is a hole in my timesheet.
I'd have left already to be honest. I wouldn't be arguing over WhatsApp.
If the boss gave me any agro I'd go straight to HR, and if I was let go over it, I'd go to a tribunal. There is not a chance in hell people are expecting me to choose anything over my kids.
I'd be laughing all the way to the bank after the tribunal
Feel like I’m repeating myself … but the song Labour by Paris Paloma comes to mind.
Family > sorting my socks >>>>>>> work emergencies
Choose single or childless employees whenever possible!
the audio seems a little messed up in this particular short. I really love this series of videos
It's a weird one. On the one hand if it's a one off then I can see an employer being accommodating, but if it happens a lot then they start asking the difficult questions. I know someone who always used their kid being sick as an excuse to leave early, but it happened so often they got investigated and it was found out just from their Facebook page that they were lying. No posts about a sick child, even though it happened almost weekly, lots of posts about getting off work early. They were told from now on if they had to leave early due to their child they would have to produce some kind of documentation for the files. Just a letter from the school or something from the doctor. Oddly they quit shortly afterwards.
This one is weird because they aren't asking or informing they are leaving immediately. What time is it? They say an hour early so the kid is in the nurse or principal's office until then? And yeah, it sounds like something that has become a regular thing. So maybe the employee needs to meet with their manager to work out some way to accommodate the family. It seems weird to bring this up in text and not have a 1:1 with the employee after.
You know kids can suffer from chronic illness right?
My daughters school called about her being sick.
I notified my supervisor that I would be leaving early to pick my daughter up from school cause she was sick.
Go and call if you need tomorrow off was the response from my boss
"If you can't handle both"
Tf do you MEAN she can't handle both? She's literally been SAYING she can AND has been handling both for a while now.
Two words, "I quite"
You make sacrifices for your children, not sacrifice your children for work.
Clearly she’s in the wrong, seems like she’s doing it a lot.
When my kids were younger I was mum and dad as their dad was too drunk
I mean, the boss is right. Maybe that's not the job for her if she needs to leave early all the time.
I had a math prof in my first semester of college that when i dont her my grandmother was dying an dI would be out for about 2 weeks, said she was raising a family and she was still there. I looked at her dead in the eyes and said they werent dying are they? I walked out and didnt go back to her class and spent what few days I had left with my grandmother
simple solution, No problem, You can leave early, then we will see you in an hour early the following day. Flexibility goes both ways. or you work and extra 10 min per day for the next week, so the hours are still the same
I don't care when my staff turn up and go, so long as they get the hours in, if they want to do an hour, then leave and hour, then come back so be it. if someone wants to start at 6 and finish and 2, then the next day they want to do a 8 till 4, or a 10 to 6. fine. do the hours, i don't care.
the facility is open 24/7 so it makes zero odds at all
Dan’s wife meanwhile is the one her boss berates in the same way. #workload
Supervisor is correct. The company is not responsible for the situation this woman has put herself in. She cannot claim this has not happend a lot so this is appently the straw.
Women, you wanted equality and here you are crying because you got it.
So you have found a way for makes to gestate children & give birth?? Yer roight🤨
I would’ve asked if his wife would mind helping out
I would be looking for a new job ASAP
My kid is sick, I'm leaving. End of conversation. It's not a request. Deal with it.
Don’t ask permission just go get your son.
Dan is a plonker: not someone to work with
Yeah, don't become a single mother
He doesn't believe she has a sick kid but is using an excuse. Let's assume that's true. How would you, as an employer, handle that.
Let's also assume the coworkers are getting sick and tired of covering for her early days out.
Go.
So honestly I’m with Dan. Why should the company have to tolerate an employee that works less and is absent more than any other employee. I would replace her with someone that wants to see the company succeed and grow instead of catering to someone’s needs. If you can’t manage your home life and work life. Then find a more flexible job like Walmart or some shit.
Well then you're another myopic f**king idiot with no empathy just like Dan then.
But why is the son constantly ill ? The Boss is right . Disrupts the whole team . I hate these type of entitled people . Just take a sick leave for god’s sake .
How is it anyone's fault that the kid gets sick more often? He could have a weaker immune system or some autoimmune disease
You would rather the employee just doesn't show up at all?
As a mother I get where she's coming from. However from the gist of the conversation it seems she's using the "my child is sick excuse" quite a bit and people are starting to notice. I've worked with men and women like this.
What if the kids has a chronic illness that flares up and has bad days?
But maybe it’s a regular thing
And this is the reason why women should be home raising their children taking care of them
1920s wants you back.
As long as other coworkers don't have to cover in anyway, no biggie. But I (F) resent like heII covering tasks, phones, open office hours for parent coworkers who *always* need more coverage. We all have common times we need if - but I don't want to cover for a hungover guy who partied the night before anymore than a parent. Yeah, know I'm in the minority & don't care.
Your kids seem to be ill a lot - Um, yeah, they‘re kids