Protect your IRAs & 401ks💰- BirchGold.com/Rumble Educate your children on Trump🇺🇸 - KidsTrumpGuide.com ⏲ TIME STAMPS ⏲ 0:00 : Preview 2:00 : Show begins!🔥 3:30 : Guests Introduction 6:30 : Sponsor : Birch Gold Group 8:00 : Rules for the debate 10:00 : Monotheism Vs. Polytheism - Why do Christians believe in multiple gods? 14:30 : Christians respond 20:00 : Trinity Vs Tawhid : Is the trinity illogical? 26:00 : Sam Shamoun criticises Tawhid & Allah 32:00 : God & the right hand…Is Allah Schizophrenic? 40:00 : Criticisms about the Bible 46:00 : Debate gets heated 🔥 48:00 : How does God having a hand contradict monotheism? 59:30 : Authenticity of Scripture 1:09:00 : Sponsor : The Kids Guide 1:15:00 : Comparing Muslims & Christians manuscripts 1:23:00 : The scholars know more than Mohammad 1:29:30 : How many western scholars believe that old testaments can be traced back to Moses? 1:31:00 : Which Qurani manuscripts are 100% identical? 1:38:00 : Authenticity of Islamic manuscripts 1:45:00 : Debate gets heated 🔥 1:46:30 : Bible Vs. Quran on morality & human rights 1:51:00 : What the Quran says about women 1:53:30 : Bible promotes ridding of adulters & h0m0s3xuals, sl@very & child marriage 1:59:00 : Christians question Mohammad & tendencies 2:04:00 : BRUH!! 2:05:00 : Child marriage in the Bible 2:07:00 : “A plumber stole your wife”👨🏻🔧 - Daniel to Sam Shamoun 2:12:00 : Child marriage & masogony 2:17:00 : Superchats! 2:30:30 : Final Round - FIGHT! 2:35:30 : Does Quran encourage ending of women & children 2:43:00 : What is sin in Islam & Christianity / Superchats & QnA 2:44:00 : IS the Quran created or uncreated? 2:46:30 : Muslim's view on Jesus 2:52:00 : Bible promotes ridding of babies?? 2:56:00 : Sam Shamoun responds to the claims 3:00:30 : Jesus encouraged Moses to do this....? 3:03:30 : Last thoughts from the guests 3:06:30 : Where can you find the guests? 3:08:00 : Outro!
Why not ask the christian about their god becoming a man and how they can ask people: what is a woman? If they haven't been able to define the nature of their god? Or abortion vs their god begetting a son and putting it on a cross? Is that love?
Why mention the old testament by saying: "Oh, don't you believe that your christian god is the god of the old testament? What do you say about these verses?" You have the christian god changing his nature to a man, begettibg a son and doing worse than abortion it. No need to make huge leaps to the old testament. Use my arguments as they are also relevant eith the current affairs if the world. Can God become a man? If they say yes? Ask them, how can you deny for liberals what you ascribe to God?
you mean Christianity right!? cuz the statistics technically don't agree with you the fastest growing religion on earth is Islam by conversion rate, not birth rate and btw the fastest religion drop is Christianity check it in Pew Research and stop yapping and cheering about nothing
@@zenbrentdraper congrats you won the dumbest comment this year, cuz if you had 2 brain cells you would know who actually even invented the modern scientific method you latterly count with the Arabic number 1234 LMAO
you guys are so ignorant that you dont listen to anybody he literally destroyed jay right there when talking about child marriage for example canon law , thomas acquines etc and literally he accepted it that child marriage is wrong meanwhile their laws and their preist commited this sinful act to this day and havent been removed
if you got married to an 18 year old in 2022, the whole world would see it as okay, but in the year 4044 where life expectancy has doubled and the age of consent is now 36 years old, you would now be considered as someone who had child marriage. Is that logical? If you still disagree, the age of consent is different in Japan, USA, and Uk. Furthermore, child marriage was done regularly by your grandparents protected under US Law if you are from the USA. I am not endorsing anything but it seems as if you don't know your own history.
@@tea-he8ei You do realize it was Sam who ran away from Jake. Sam suggested 3 subjects to debate but didn't want any subjects from Jake. Jake accepted all 3 of Sam's subjects, but he wanted 1 subject from his side but Sam did not accept that 😂😂😂
Jake dyer, You seem to be adult but i think your mind is still of 5 year old kid. Don't you feel shame worshipping 200 pound human messenger as your personal God? Grow up!! Hell fire is not joke my friend. Don't take it for granted. 🔥
Jay here is my honest debate review (im orthodox) Yes you 2 destroyed him But I wish you could speak more daniel is a logical fallacy generator I wish you could point that out more when sam was pressed on the LPT I wish you could help him out more since he doesnt know much about that. On the reliability of the bible Dude thats when they lost... Sam kept pointing out that the quran confirms the bible (with evidence) and they just apealed to authority 😂😂😂 probably only read bart erhman On the morality I think you couldve done a bit better jay you know philosphy you could have handled this much better then sam But overall as the saying goes "Without lies islam dies" Ah yes never gets old... ☦️
spends the ENTIRE debate saying that the bible is corrupt and unreliable. Ends the debate saying "the bible confirms muhammad as a prophet" 😂😂 these dudes are a joke
You can say that when you have actual authentic sources to check what is true or not. A book being corrupted and unreliable on its own, does not make it all false or untrue. That's why they can say which parts are true, not or neither.
@@nunya54 dude we have all the manuscripts from hundereds of years before your prophet existed. that means that the only bible he could have possibly confirmed in his time is the same one we have today. your entire beliefe relies upon this one single idea. that the bible is corrupted. because if the bible is true that means the quran is not. and since your own quran says that the bible IN THE TIME of your prophet was true, what basis do you have to deny the manuscripts that have remained the same from before the time of muhammad until after?
@@joerafael8743 Liar, all manuscripts are not the same. There are verses/stories missing in Codex Sinaticus that appears in later manuscripts. And the Qur'an doesn't use the words "bible", "new testament", or "old testament", in any of it's 114 chapters, so the Qur'an cannot confirm your "bible", you lying polytheist.
@@nunya54 Muslims just lie as they please because Muslims are full of hypocrisy. says the Bible is fake, but uses the Bible to justify his religion🤣🤣. even though all Muslim claims are absurd, without evidence and just empty talk. Even Muslims themselves don't have a manuscript and don't have strong evidence🤣. Even Muslims don't know how to study the book🤣.
Yo i have question im new but if muhammad never met jesus how is it that the quran mentions jesus if muhammad and the people of that time never met him? Doesnt that mean quran is from god, cuz only he could know it? Also if you think muhammad is false prophet how could it be that there is no vocabulary or grammatacal mistakes and its beautiful in quran? Doesnt that also mean its from god? And why do you believe bible is true and not quran, just cuz it came later and not before bible? Can someone pls answer these questions im new and dont have many knowledge
@@cloxytr9144You are new on what ? ,in the 6 th Century in Arabia Christianity where already spread in the area Mouhammad didn’t need to physically meet Jesus to know him ,he certainly heard about his story or met christian people that’s why some say he has been inspired by The Bible for The Quran , your 2nd point is invalid and shallow The Quran is not a poetic book or a novel is God ‘s Word for muslim its deeper than that and the 3rd point is so obvious cause The Bible and The Torah don’t talk about Mouhammad they don’t mention Islam and according to the same Islam they were previous God ‘s Word before being corrupted according to Islam which also says that Gord’s Word can’t be corrupted
In the Quran and The Bible it's clear that Jesus is in heaven. But when it comes to Mohammed it's unknown what happened to him after death. So if he is in hell whoever believes him and his religion are going to hell...right. Think Muslims....
@@jerinjoseph7420why else do they always have to stop to say "peace be upon him" every time they even say his name lmaooo. Why would you have to say that about someone you know is in the heavenly realm? its almost as if every time they say "peace be upon him" they're unknowingly saying "I sure hope you're in Heaven and are at peace"
@@jerinjoseph7420also if u can compare Jesus who's sinless to Muhammad which Muslim follow and think is the role model of mankind (they think his better than...💀)in what they did and how they act u can clearly see how Jesus from the Bible is not thier isa/or Jesus in the Quran how can he replaced himself at the crucifixion when he literally phropecise it thousand of years before it happens
NO, he is not ... for those who don't know Quran, he may seem sharp but with a knowledgeable p[person, he runs hahaha he RAN before, and he will always do.
In tawheed vs Trinity. Team ✝ never tried to explain the Trinity. Instead they focused mainly on Tawheed. Claiming it's irrational because Allah has a foot. Or Quran will speak to Allah. Daniel explained this beautifully by using the Quran and the bible. Team Islam criticize Trinity and defended Tawheed. That's why ✝ lost this part. In the open dialogue, team islam asked two questions which cleary debunks the Trinity. My favorite one was "Does the Father has a human mind because jesus has one too" And ijaz's question was legit too(51:20). ✝ lost this one too. Notice how Team ✝ is again not putting effort to defend the authenticity of Bible? The only response they had was "Quran confirms the bible" Which shows their dishonesty, that they are arguing to win not to prove their point. How would you prove Bible's authenticity to a non-muslim? ✝ lost this one too. Morality, both islam and Christianity allows slavery, child marriage and war. But ✝ allow genocide and selling of daughters to slavery. So Islam clearly has moral superiority over Christianity. Islam wins this one.
Arabic ex-muslim here Who agrees with me!? "Islam started with a sword and ended with the Internet' I am a proud Christian now Jesus is King 👑 ✝️ 🤍 Thanks Internet
In tawheed vs Trinity. Team ✝ never tried to explain the Trinity. Instead they focused mainly on Tawheed. Claiming it's irrational because Allah has a foot. Or Quran will speak to Allah. Daniel explained this beautifully by using the Quran and the bible. Team Islam criticize Trinity and defended Tawheed. That's why ✝ lost this part. In the open dialogue, team islam asked two questions which cleary debunks the Trinity. My favorite one was "Does the Father has a human mind because jesus has one too" And ijaz's question was legit too(51:20). ✝ lost this one too. Notice how Team ✝ is again not putting effort to defend the authenticity of Bible? The only response they had was "Quran confirms the bible" Which shows their dishonesty, that they are arguing to win not to prove their point. How would you prove Bible's authenticity to a non-muslim? ✝ lost this one too. Morality, both islam and Christianity allows slavery, child marriage and war. But ✝ allow genocide and selling of daughters to slavery. So Islam clearly has moral superiority over Christianity. Islam wins this one.
Tamim al-Dari reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “This matter will certainly reach every place touched by the night and day. Allah will not leave a house or residence but that Allah will cause this religion to enter it, by which the honorable will be honored, and the disgraceful will be disgraced. Allah will honor the honorable with Islam, and he will disgrace the disgraceful with unbelief.”
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them.” (Matthew 7:15-20) NKJV
to me this verse is proof that it cannot have been from God. Obviously bad people can do good things, and good people can do bad things. the world isnt so black and white. This verse was definitely written by a human.
> accepts a debate with Christians and even suggests himself to debate morality of Islam compared to Christianity > gets offended that Christians think his prophet is immoral > resorts to personal attacks Daniel is having a rough one
If you look at these comments, you will see who is disrespecting whose religion. I would have done the same, but it is forbidden to disrespect someone’s beliefs according to the which is why we remain silent. Quran they are a very good example of your religion with such word's they should learn how to respect other religion by saying this won't make ur religion great instead it makes it even worse Sam uses the worst language to insult the Prophet ﷺ and his wives constantly. When someone uses words like "whore" "dog" "pig" and worse, do you smile and be kind? you've declared a winner because someone decided to be mean to someone who curses our religion? Who made you judge? the The double standard of hypocrites like you - that's why you have no credibility.
Seriously you really think Islam got flamed while in reality your corrupted bible got exposed so badly that even Hellen Keller may be able to see that if she was alive 💀💀💀
@@angelicentity1401 The Original Gospel is true however it got corrupted and the modern day bible is a altered version with some truth but unfortunately a lot of errors. The Quran is 100% correct.
@@Stridonjerome Muslims say peace be upon you to Muslims they talk to everyday. They're not praying to those people. Their daily prayer is TO Allah. Not to Muhammad. This sounds like a very Christian thing to make everything as polytheistic as their religion and have Muslims worship their prophet like Christinas worship theirs.
Keeps burying himself when he keeps telling us he's ok with Child marriage 🤦 Somebody needs to check his hard drives. Then turns around and says Thomas Aquinas is a PDF-ile. Can't make this stuff up Can't wait to see what bits of this you will use in your future videos 😂🤣
@@randomhuman25951. To teach 2. It says he humbled himself and limited his power, which is why when he was dying he talks about going back to the glory he shared with the father Its 1 God and three persons Jesus is the word made flesh
Lοgic of god according to bible Eze 4: 12 - 15 human S H l T nοτ clean but cοw's one is clean to eaτ !! 😂😂 Isaiah 7: 20 God shαving people legs like M A l D 😂😂
So you ignore the insults which Shamoun started throwing from literary the first minute he opened his mouth and wine that Daniel had to remind him about him being the biggest L possible by reminding him of a plumber who fk his wife in their bedroom ? 😂😂😂
@@monamobareki mean they can't comprehend basic concept, their beloved sam lied about r@pe and killing of women and children. It's perfectly applicable to Al-Hajj 22:46
After watching that debate I think both parties came with strong points but over all I think Sam and Jake held more points together Daniel spoke his truth BUT many misleading statements too. But on the other hand Sam did not try to mislead he tried to teach
@@Lord_Jay90 Do you believe Bible teachings are true? If so then it should bother you... I could care less whether they are three in 1, they are co-equal, or the Father is greater...yet you worship Jesus, but Jesus worships the Father. Then Jesus died for our sins, but God can never die. No, he reunited with the Father and fuse...?? So there was no sacrifice......Logic falls apart with Christianity, which is why it was avoided in the debate.....Muslims believe he was a prophet just like Moses, Abraham, Noah, etc. He never died..... He was raised to heaven, and he will return to defeat the antichrist live a normal life get married, and die just like the prophet of old. Simple no demi-god complex here just one god "Father Hallowed is he.."
@@architecturalabwtf are you trying to say? First off saying that Jesus dying can’t be true because god can’t die? I mean was he not in a physical human body died then resurrected and appeared to people. Weren’t his people killed tortured and persecuted for their beliefs in his teaching? Would you be killed for something you no 100% to be false ex someone coming back to life after everyone saw them die? I’m sure you wouldn’t but idk maybe the disciples and women and others that saw him were all Delulu. Not to mention he appeared to the women first, something that would never have been written if they didn’t believe it back then. Yall the ones who claim women are secondary to men during that time so idk you tell me why a “man” would write a women saw Jesus first after he resurrected
That's polytheism. Kind of like how the whole world got drowned once for the same thing. And no, the whole world doesn't actually keep track of time that way, lol.
if indeed Jesus is God or the Father himself, when he was resurrected and lifted up to heaven, why did he sit at the right hand of his father/God, just like the angels who were around God, If it is true that the entity of Jesus is the same as the entity of his father, why the entity of Jesus in heaven does not return to being one person or being one entity with his father ? When in heaven the entity of Jesus is at the right hand of his father, that means that the entity of Jesus is separate from the entity of his father, and that also means that in the world and in heaven, Jesus is still a person or an entity that is separate and different from the entity of his father
That's Christianity without lies Christianity dies script changes every year. Jesus pbuh is a prophet yet made a god by Christians Paul is more important than Jesus pbuh. The moment you know the Bible changes every year end of debate
The crusades lost to islam non stop. The muslims defeated those devils and because of that, much of the christian world (North Africa, East Africa, the middle east, and parts of eastern Europe) is now muslim. Palestine, Egypt, Iraq, Turkey(Constantinople) +, all were christian, but crusaders are so weak of heart, and such cowards that they lost everything. And they always will. Alhamdulillah. Never forget ... You can't change the past. And history is easy to go check if you doubt.
Sam Shamoun: *talks about child marriage for 3 minutes straight.* Daniel: *immediately after* “notice how the Christians refuse to talk about child marriage.” 🤦♂️
@@bigol9223 Let's do the math, Sarah was 90 when she had Isaac, when Sarah died at 127, 127-90=37, which was the age of Isaac, Isaac was 37 when Rebecca was born and Isaac married Rebecca at age 40 which makes Rebecca 3
It is their best argument against Sam. Not a good argument but their best. I will attack his character to debunk his arguments. They don’t understand how grace works in Christianity because they are not a religion of grace.
Sam started insulting prophet Muhammad pbuh and muslims didnt want to insult Jesus, so yeah insulting central figure of soneones faith will get you in trouble. Just as Daniel said
@@ahmedkadic4634They insulted Christ multiple times by misrepresenting him in their understanding of Sacred Scripture. You know insults aren’t just personal attacks but they are also misrepresenting someone or painting a false image of someone, slander could be an insult. They were attacking Christ of the Old Testament(out of context I must say). That is an insult of Christ for any Christian.
@@DontOpenThisChannel our word of God is divine and he is Jesus. even your quran steals the gospel of John and calls e'ssa (mythical jesus) as spirit proceeding from hubaal and word of hubaal . i mean allah
Debating Sam Shamoun is a nightmare for Muslims. He understands Arabic, and seemlingy knows the Qurans, Hadiths and the Holy Bible from memory. Deceiving ain’t possible with this brother.
Lol this is the funniest comment I saw in this comment section, dude can't even speak Arabic like in an Arabic cartoon dub doesn't know anything about quran nor hadith and ofc throw his bible out the window the first chance he get more ironic that he didn't even say a word about trinity The fact is christians themselves don't understand it, as Ibn Hazm said: if we didn't debate christians we wouldn't be believe that there's such a thing as christians
@@iosis2009 Go check them yourself. You will learn to discern Truth from Falsehood. Muslims have a duty to always study and engage intellectually as every muslim (like anyone else) is accountable for his/her actions and intentions.
@M_S_G001 "go check them yourself" is hardly "engaging intellectually". Also, if you want accountability you have to support your own claims with evidence. Anyone can make a claim, but to defend your claim and explain it, that is being accountable. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The onus is on the claimant to provide the evidence for their claim. I will, however, try and cross reference some of his claims he makes. I have in the past and found no contradictions. I actually find sam quite reliable due to him typically citing his quotes accurately, like he always seems ready to say from where,or whom, his quotes originate.
@@yalechuk6714 It actually can't because the disciples of Muhammad wrote and compiled it; it also does not have authors like the many manuscripts of the Bible and also is original and hasn't been changed or altered.
@@nunya54 This is the most silly belief you guys hold. To believe yours is compiled and preserved even when history and your own source say otherwise is funny. You need to check in with Sheik Yasir Qadi for a start .
@@Ntwadumela266 the fact that you went ahead and made a comment about him rather than understanding the context of his statements tells me you’re just being stupid and ignorant.
This isn’t a contest, it’s a rescue mission. We must remember to love people. 1 Peter 3:15-16 "But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander
@@DontOpenThisChannel if you read the Bible, & Sought out a personal relationship with our Lord and savior, with your whole heart, you would be given understanding on all things of the Bible, by the Holy Spirit. Even the things that are not easy to digest, once first reading them. If you only knew how much Jesus loves you. He loves you more than anyone on this earth has or will ever love you. It’s a healing love. May the Father draw you to the son, so that you will one day experience the life changing intimacy with him.
@@doloresdsmith agree with you except the part where Jesus is Lord. He was a man who was born, who depended on his mother in his infancy. He ate, drank , slept and went to the toilet. These are human characteristics. High above is God from these limitations. He is above all needs and wants.
@@monamobarek No one comes..." "Jesus said to him, 'I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6).
How do you explain Allah praying to himself, arguing with himself, getting astonished by his creatures, and occupying space, but claiming to be the creator of space?
@@AZULA69 literally all the points the Muslims gave was answered and soon thrown away , however the muslims answered just 1 of the points given in the 5 min timeframe and ran away from the rest
Sam cooked them lol, I usually like this channel on other topics but he brought the wrong person on to defend Islam. Sam studied both the Bible and Quran cover to cover, and owned some of the best Muslim apologists on YT.
Everyone is saying he cooked them but no one is telling how did he cooked them. Because they can't. I can confidently say Daniel and ijaz cooked them both. Here's how: In tawheed vs Trinity. Team ✝ never tried to explain the Trinity. Instead they focused mainly on Tawheed. Claiming it's irrational because Allah has a foot. Or Quran will speak to Allah. Daniel explained this beautifully by using the Quran and the bible. Team Islam criticize Trinity and defended Tawheed. That's why ✝ lost this part. In the open dialogue, team islam asked two questions which cleary debunks the Trinity. My favorite one was "Does the Father has a human mind because jesus has one too" And ijaz's question was legit too(51:20). ✝ lost this one too. Notice how Team ✝ is again not putting effort to defend the authenticity of Bible? The only response they had was "Quran confirms the bible" Which shows their dishonesty, that they are arguing to win not to prove their point. How would you prove Bible's authenticity to a non-muslim? ✝ lost this one too. Morality, both islam and Christianity allows slavery, child marriage and war. But ✝ allow genocide and selling of daughters to slavery. So Islam clearly has moral superiority over Christianity. Islam wins this one.
@@muzamil69054 You literally wrote a book here but when the Islam guys refused to debate in good faith, they would never reach consensus no matter what is said. Sam has answered the question on trinity many times on his channel, but there’s no short answer the bad faith guys will ever accept. They literally resort to ad hominem attacks, talking about his ex wife and dirty tactics, refused to answer questions, and kept using strawman answers while dodging their questions. Hence, they were cooked. Still didn’t answer on the consistency of the Quran, Quran literally admit the Bible or at least those 4 books in NT were not corrupted, and if those books are true the Islam must be false. And Muhammad literally raped a child, no way around that. She was 6 years old and raped her when she was 9, good luck defending that crap.
@@triggered8556 it’s because it was such a joke that most people thought it wasn’t worth their time. If there was a respectable representative then maybe more Muslims would have engaged.
@@mazharul checking what ? uthman misunderstood the trinity for tritheis ? believing christian have 3 gods ? uthman didn't understand what hypostasis is, actually funny one lol.
1) sam is a horrible debater. 2) he throws insults throughout the whole debate, which means he lacks the ability and knowledge to properly answer or rebuttal 3) both Christians need to explain their answers as if someone who is neutral listening and willing to pick a side after, but they were both busy insulting amd all over the place
It baffles my mind even when i used to be a hardcore atheist how people can read the Islamic theology and dont connect the dots on the immense amount of illogical things in islam. The entire islamic theology ( philosophically, scientifically, historically & metaphysically) is beyond flawed no matter how u slice the🔪🎂
A divinely protected book called Q ran that gets eaten by a goat and has no context or chronology, it's explained by a libraries worth of contradicting hadith books that ARE NOT divinely protected. The Muslim god Allah has loads of corrupt books he sent down, and Muslims think this is a flex on other groups? Not complicated at all....
Insulting Mohammed by just saying he married a 6 year old girl and then slept with her when she's nine? That he's the "plumber" who took other people wives, including his adopted son's wife? That its okay to beat your wives whenever you feel like it? If Sam would insult Muhammad then Daniel should insult Jesus but Daniel couldn't really find fault on Jesus so he has to attack Sam which is entirely irrelevant to the debate even if true or not. Daniel is basically a child who would insult you rather than defend Muhammad because even he too can't defend that plumber.
@@silenthero2795except we don’t insult prophets of god 😂😂 , that’s the difference between both religions, Christian’s think they can mock our religion and get away with it 😂 cry harder.
Saint Thomas was saying if 2 teenagers fall in love and want to marry, they can if they are mature enough. It does not mean a 40 yr old gets to marry her
@@DontOpenThisChannelDon't lie about the bible, i know you're that st*** to read context ( (1 Corinthians 7:36-38) I heard Jibril is a great teacher, it takes only 3 chkehlds and you start Reading. @DontOpenThisChannel
Islam really does reduce people to a petty level, just reading through the comments, most pro muslim comments are unhinged, come to christ and be healed by him, daniel resorted to personal attacks on sam hiding behind an argument of "its in defence of our prophet" cowards who hide, wolfs in sheep skin, snakes, sam was bold as a lion, this is the power that the father the son and the holy spirit grants.
@@user-rl9tu3jo8u Iran closed over 50000 mosques and is becoming Christian. If you are telling me it's declining while in the middle east where Islam is concentrated, that there is Christianity rising you are wishfully thinking. Literally one of the original regions of Islam is converting to Christianity. 🙏🕊️✝️.
“Name the oldest Quranic manuscript that has all 114 suras” and “Name any two Quran manuscripts that are 100% identical”. Three hours later, they still haven’t answered!!! The best answer from Muslims which is the Birmingham quran apparently has only 2 suras compared to Haffs which has 114 and the 2 suras are not 100% identical with the Haffs - sourced from ChatGpt
Birmingham Quran. All Quran manuscripts are identical in Skeletal text since diacretical marks are not actually part of the Quran. Now which bible is correct? Kjv or niv?
@@theislamicjourney960 But that's not the argument. The actual argument is that all qurans are and always have been from the very first one exactly the same (because its god's actual word, so it can't be changed... at least theoretically).
@@JohnDorian-j7x The actual argument is mass memorization, not manuscripts. Manuscripts never been the argument for 1400 years, its always about what we cal "Mutawatir" ie masstransmission
Really? I agree that Sam and Jay were the more grounded and least confused when making their points. And I also am willing to admit that as a Christian, I’m glad the Christian team had the stronger performance generally speaking due to my theological bias. However, this particular performance from pretty much everyone (least so from Jay) was a nightmare. It was either mean-spirited with ad-hominem/arrogance/condescension/ constant straw manning, or filled with confusion on what points/questions were being presented. It was honestly one of the most difficult debates ive watched in a while…:/
@@a7c777You are just wet behind the ears. You clearly have not got out there and debated many Muslims, or even know that the Quran teaches to lie to "unbelievers" so you can trick them into death later on.
When you're talking to _Paulian_ ... Q: Who is God? A: Jesus Q: Is Jesus the son of Mary? A: Yes, Q: Who is God? A: Jesus *God Jesus was born from the mother he created (Mary) Q: Is Jesus a born son? A: Yes, Q: Who is his father? A: God Q: Who is God? A: Jesus *God Jesus is the father of God Jesus and the creator of the mother he was born from her the son of his wife Q: Is Jesus the servant of God? A: Yes, Q: Did Jesus die on the cross? A: Yes, Q: And for whom did he go up? A: To God *God Jesus was crucified & ascended to God Jesus Q: Is Jesus a Messenger? A: Yes, Q: Who sent him? A: God Q: Who is God? A: Jesus *God Jesus was the messenger of God Jesus. God sends himself as a Messenger of himself Q: Did Jesus pray when he was alive? A: yes, Q: Whom was he praying for? A: For God Q: Who is God? A: Jesus *God Jesus worships God Jesus himself Q: Does God have a beginning? A: No Q: So who was born on December 25th? A: Jesus Q: Who is God? A: Jesus *God Jesus is eternal before everything but he was born in 25th Dec Q: Where is God? A: In heaven Q: How many Gods are there in heaven? A: God is only one. Q: Where is Jesus sitting? A: He is sitting on the right of God. Q: Is Jesus a God? A: Yes Q: So how many Gods are there in heaven? A: Only one God Q: Where is Jesus? A: He is sitting to the right of God. Q: So how many gods are there in heaven? A: Only one god. Still Q: Is Jesus a God? A: Yes Q: So who many seated gods are there? A: Only one God? Q: Where is Jesus? A: He is sitting next to the god. Q: How many gods are in heaven? A: Only one. Q: Are they sitting on the same chair? A: These words are understood only by the one who has the holy spirit. *so.. God sacrificed God to God in order to save God's creation from God. God prayed to God for help but God didn't help God, and God killed God with help from humans. And that God is a father of himself and the mother of himself and the son of mother he created at the same time. He is also eternal but his birthday is...? 🙏
dudes won’t even let sam answer. everytime he tries to answer they cut him off. they get so emotional they start mentioning his wife lmao. that’s the sign of someone that is no in their feelings and feel so bad they want the other person to feel how they feel. HURT!
@@nabborma i would want to destroy him not his wife. he had no rebuttal at all. muhammad would be disappointed. but daniel is the one who started it listen to his opening statement. he set the tone
@@nabborma did you listen to the opening statement? daniel set the tone. instead of attacking his wife why didn’t he attack his argument? lmao he couldn’t
@nabborma When Daniel called the Triune God polytheistic whom Christians love and worship, what did Muslims expect will happen? Muslims insult the God of the Bible and then complain all the time.
That's what it was, U proved jesus is Allah, u proved Muhammad SAW is a False prophet, U proved that Allah is Jeses, bro u saying that doesn't make it that.
@@OpIslam13Sam said no lie when he said that, and none of your Islamic scholars want to debate him for a reason. Mohammd hijab keeps running his mouth and literally backed out last min. And wants to resort to “Oh I’ll debate him on the condition of him boxing me”….. ahhh he’s scared, and Sam still accepted that offer. And he’s still nowhere to be seen. That religion is a joke and the ppl defending it are too.
Muslims should already know “NEVER BRING SAM SHAMOUN ON” That is the most foolish thing you could EVER DO!!! This guy has obliterated Islam over and over again much of his entire life. Many Muslims must be thinking, “Why in the World did you do this”
In fairness, the dude on the top right represents the WORST of Muslim apologetics. There are better apologists than him. Not that I think they're any more correct.
@@Lambdamale. Yeah that is true! But let's be honest they would still lose because his only replacement is sheikh utman and he already got cooked by God logic
Sam dictates ANY debate. His extensive knowledge of both religions is what amazes me. Memorizing scriptures on both sides plus using logic. Thank God he’s on the Christian side 🤍🤍🤍
I agree. He does so well until he wants to start chasing man, and tradition like praying repetitive hail Mary's etc which is absolutely prohibited in scripture. Makes no sense why he wants to do that. But Everything else, he's good.
I think he's off on Mystery Babylon. He doesn't realize that Mystery Babylon will be where people with little hats worship from a book called the Babylonian Talmud. Lol
ex muslim here, this just strengthened my faith in christ, if u know jesus and know islam, u'll know who is right. god is love, islam is a worldly religion from the enemy.
Said by the guy who believes a God is killing another God who is crying and begging to be saved but God doesn't accept so he can forgive humans sins while another God is watching and all of them are one person.
@@DontOpenThisChannel Do you know anything about Christian theology or are you gonna repeat what YOU think you know and not what is actually believed or written in scripture for the Bible? It is ONE God, Monotheism, who are 3 distinct beings but not separate. Some Muslims do not realize, that thinking this is impossible for God because of comparisons to earthly worldly creation, is literally shirk. IS IT not shirk to compare your god if you are muslim to anything not allah? To say "No its impossible for allah to be infinite because no human can" So if you read the Bible, Jesus IS God, as he affirms in John 8, Revelations 1, as well as it is affirmed in Hebrews 1, Hebrews 2, Philippians 2, John 3, John 1, and many many more chapters and verses. So when you say God is KILLING another "God," you're wrong. It is Jesus who IS God, willingly going with the Will of the Father even though he has human emotion of fear and what not, because he LIMITED himself to the form of a Human if you just read Philippians 2, to DIE for our sins to be paid. So man, if you are gonna critique Christianity, at least KNOW what the theology is regarding God.
@@DontOpenThisChannel You're misinterpreting even the foundations of Christianity. Please do some research then come back once you understand the Trinity and have read the Bible.
*3:59** Holy Qur'an* إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِندَ ٱللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ ءَادَمَ ۖ خَلَقَهُۥ مِن تُرَابٍۢ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُۥ كُن فَيَكُونُ ٥٩ Indeed, the example of Jesus to *Allāh* is like that of Adam. He created him from dust; then He said to him, "Be," and he was.
@@christrisen6589 *Holy Qur'an* About the *Creator* of all worlds *42:5 Holy Qur'an* تَكَادُ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٰتُ يَتَفَطَّرْنَ مِن فَوْقِهِنَّ ۚ وَٱلْمَلَـٰٓئِكَةُ يُسَبِّحُونَ بِحَمْدِ رَبِّهِمْ وَيَسْتَغْفِرُونَ لِمَن فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ ۗ أَلَآ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ هُوَ ٱلْغَفُورُ ٱلرَّحِيمُ ٥ The heavens almost burst apart above them [in awe of Him], and the angels glorify the praises of their Lord, and seek forgiveness for those on earth. Indeed, *Allah* is the All-Forgiving, Most Merciful. *2:136 Holy Qur'an* Say, O believers, “We believe in *Allah* and what has been revealed to us; and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and his descendants; and what was given to Moses, Jesus, and other prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them. And to *Allah* we all submit.”
@christrisen6589 Allah is the arabic word for God you poor ignorant soul. Arab Christians call God "Allah". Just like Dios is Spanish and Allaha in Aramaic (Jesus's language)
Lol Daniel thinks he's winning by saying he's fine with Child marriage, and then has to resort to spending half his time to attack Sam personally. Shameful is this Islam?
What personal insult? Yes Sam got hardcore cucked by a plumber and his wife liked his tools better according to sam himself, but what it has to do with this ?
I used to be a hardcore athiest just a year ago, there's so many reasons to believe in a God- provided by scholars, and then people like sam help us realize who the true God is!
I hope you seek what you find friend. Genesis 1:1 is a scientific fact. I’m a former convicted felon who the Lord found in jail. Now I’m a Christian a father and a family man who serves the Lord. All glory to Jesus
No way you can watch this and think that Islam won i came into this with no bias in me after watching this sam and jay destroyed Islam to the smallest decimal
They can sound like they won an argument but they can't destroy Islam. They can't prove anything about Islam false while claiming to believe in a religion that has plenty in it proven false.
@@DionAnims There's literally no evidence to support the modern doctrines of Christianity being true. Even committed Christian scholars admit this fact. The beliefs don't align with the earliest Christians beliefs. The scripture is historically inaccurate in many places, proven to be embellished and corrupted in places. Too many of the ideas are illogical and contradictory. If Christianity is from God, where are we supposed to learn about it authentically with all the problems the Bible has? Are we going to be held accountable for knowing and following a religion no one can prove, that has teachings that contradict each other, that can't be sourced back to Jesus, that have embellished and false and unhistoric parts proven in it? That's not logical to believe about God. God has to be wise, God has to be just. That is not wise or just to hold people to believing in that. The sources of Christianity meet the lowest or have no standard when it comes to verifying information. Christians today still don't know or agree on who God is. How can over 2000 years a religion be so unclear? There's far, far too much I could write about this but I'll just say doing the research, finding the evidence, there's simply no way Christianity is true and anyone who says so has either not done that or is being dishonest or saying some pretty terrible things about God that I can't believe.
@@SupermanOG Nah it was poor, they offered almost no citations for things they were saying. Their 'quotes' from the Bible were paraphrasing and reading into it what they wanted it to mean.
*19:35** Noble Qur'an* مَا كَانَ لِلَّهِ أَن يَتَّخِذَ مِن وَلَدٍۢ ۖ سُبْحَـٰنَهُۥٓ ۚ إِذَا قَضَىٰٓ أَمْرًۭا فَإِنَّمَا يَقُولُ لَهُۥ كُن فَيَكُونُ ٣٥ It is not [befitting] for Allāh to take a son; exalted is He! When He decrees an affair, He only says to it, "Be," and it is.
@@DontOpenThisChannel Sure I can be wrong. Just like you can be a unicorn that flies around and gives candy to all the good little boys and girls (just keep those little boys and girls away from creepy mohummed)
@@DontOpenThisChannel Basic logic, islam destroys itself over & over, makes absolute claims about reality yet presents zero forensic evidence for said over the top claims.
Danial just proved what Christian prince always say:( you can’t debate a liar, you only get him busted ) Danial is big liar and shouldn’t anyone debate him
Because Muslims cannot defend the actions of Muhammad who is the Islamic prophet and supposed best example for all time while Sam is just a Christian apologist on the internet.
@@kakarote100Sam was speaking facts about Muhammad. Everything he said, Momo did it and it’s recorded in your books. Why are you guys so embarrassed of MOMO? he’s not a real prophets you guys are like the Mormons believing a man centuries after Jesus and he self proclaimed to be a prophet. Just like Momo
You cant date at any age in Islam...lol...yes 9 year old in 2024 is a solid N-O. However the ages of Marriage have been increasing over centuries. It was acceptable to marry 12-15 year old in as recent as early 20th century. And in early ages we need to understand the mortality rates, we need to understand socio-economic factors. Just as an example, in 2024 eventhough legal age of marriage is 18, I wouldn't get my daughter married at 18 just because she is not ready. Society today needs to revisit and increase this age to at least 25. and possibly 1000 years from now, you would find people condemning 18 year old getting married. its all relative.
@@farazahmed2623 Factually this is wrong, morality is objective, if Allah wanted us to marry nine year olds He would have outlined it clearly rather than outlawing it. We shouldn’t encourage the government to keep screwing with our hormone levels to justify child marriage.
@@farazahmed2623 You really don't get that it's not just that he did it, It's that he is the perfect example for ETERNITY by your own standard and your false allah even allows it in Q65:5 where he clarifies that those who have not yet menstruated their iddah (waiting period if they have had intercourse) is 3 months. Even granting your theory that it's relative and in 1000 years ppl would condemn 18y old marrying, still by your quran standard marrying a 6y old is fine and consummating at 9 as your profit did.
@@chike3539well your told to be like Muhammad and the fact that he slept with a 9 year old tells me if he would sleep with a child he would definitely do this. 😅🤣🤣🤣
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3:30 : Guests Introduction
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8:00 : Rules for the debate
10:00 : Monotheism Vs. Polytheism - Why do Christians believe in multiple gods?
14:30 : Christians respond
20:00 : Trinity Vs Tawhid : Is the trinity illogical?
26:00 : Sam Shamoun criticises Tawhid & Allah
32:00 : God & the right hand…Is Allah Schizophrenic?
40:00 : Criticisms about the Bible
46:00 : Debate gets heated 🔥
48:00 : How does God having a hand contradict monotheism?
59:30 : Authenticity of Scripture
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1:15:00 : Comparing Muslims & Christians manuscripts
1:23:00 : The scholars know more than Mohammad
1:29:30 : How many western scholars believe that old testaments can be traced back to Moses?
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1:38:00 : Authenticity of Islamic manuscripts
1:45:00 : Debate gets heated 🔥
1:46:30 : Bible Vs. Quran on morality & human rights
1:51:00 : What the Quran says about women
1:53:30 : Bible promotes ridding of adulters & h0m0s3xuals, sl@very & child marriage
1:59:00 : Christians question Mohammad & tendencies
2:04:00 : BRUH!!
2:05:00 : Child marriage in the Bible
2:07:00 : “A plumber stole your wife”👨🏻🔧 - Daniel to Sam Shamoun
2:12:00 : Child marriage & masogony
2:17:00 : Superchats!
2:30:30 : Final Round - FIGHT!
2:35:30 : Does Quran encourage ending of women & children
2:43:00 : What is sin in Islam & Christianity / Superchats & QnA
2:44:00 : IS the Quran created or uncreated?
2:46:30 : Muslim's view on Jesus
2:52:00 : Bible promotes ridding of babies??
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Not having Andrew Wilson in for this debate is a crime.
Daniel destroyed sam intellectually and theologically.
Recently I left trinitarian Christianity because trinity doesn't make sense at all
Lol the Christians took such an L they are just straight up lying in the comments
Because even I have to admit the Muslims won this easily
Why not ask the christian about their god becoming a man and how they can ask people: what is a woman? If they haven't been able to define the nature of their god? Or abortion vs their god begetting a son and putting it on a cross? Is that love?
Why mention the old testament by saying: "Oh, don't you believe that your christian god is the god of the old testament? What do you say about these verses?" You have the christian god changing his nature to a man, begettibg a son and doing worse than abortion it. No need to make huge leaps to the old testament. Use my arguments as they are also relevant eith the current affairs if the world. Can God become a man? If they say yes? Ask them, how can you deny for liberals what you ascribe to God?
I was a Christian before listening to the Muslims now I am a stronger Christian thanks to them
it's better to think for yourself, Jesus is not gonna pay your bills for you.
@@UwinezaNdayambaje-c3gwhat are you yapping about☠️
Bro you sound like Daniel at the Mario the plumber part.
@@UwinezaNdayambaje-c3g
On the same note of your comment -
Will Moham pay your bills?
Will the Black Stone pay your bills?
This is Salafi vs Christianity debate not Islam vs Christianity brother
Pray for the brethren in Nigeria being persecuted by the Muslims who burned their churches and villages and tortured the people!
May the brothers in christ get justice. I will pray for your safety 🙏🙏
😂😂 so why are there churches in the Middle East
LMAO!!!
@@josefhabib6985 terrorist spotted
@@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 fake news
The internet was the worst thing that could have possibly happened to Islam.
Freedom of information is HARAM. lmao
It cant compete with the largest library in the world
you mean Christianity right!? cuz the statistics technically don't agree with you the fastest growing religion on earth is Islam by conversion rate, not birth rate and btw the fastest religion drop is Christianity check it in Pew Research and stop yapping and cheering about nothing
And somehow, Islam is growing.
@@zenbrentdraper congrats you won the dumbest comment this year, cuz if you had 2 brain cells you would know who actually even invented the modern scientific method you latterly count with the Arabic number 1234 LMAO
Daniel: “I want to hear Jay condemn child marriage.”
Jay: “ok, I condemn child marriages.”
Daniel: “see, he refuses to condemn it!”
I saw that. It’s embarrassing
you guys are so ignorant that you dont listen to anybody he literally destroyed jay right there when talking about child marriage for example canon law , thomas acquines etc and literally he accepted it that child marriage is wrong meanwhile their laws and their preist commited this sinful act to this day and havent been removed
@@speedy3698-w4w bro stfu and go back to worshiping your god streamer, your daddy speed lmao
@@speedy3698-w4w nice pfp 💀
But Muhamad word is final and he said its ok.He allso said slavery is OK 👍
Dude admitted to being fine with child marriage on the internet in front of the world that’s truly insane
100% proof that Islame causes brain damage.
Not only is he fine with it. He spent an entire debate with InspiringPhilosophy defending it
Christianity is a joke
if you got married to an 18 year old in 2022, the whole world would see it as okay, but in the year 4044 where life expectancy has doubled and the age of consent is now 36 years old, you would now be considered as someone who had child marriage. Is that logical? If you still disagree, the age of consent is different in Japan, USA, and Uk. Furthermore, child marriage was done regularly by your grandparents protected under US Law if you are from the USA. I am not endorsing anything but it seems as if you don't know your own history.
@@A-B553sounds to me like your defending the indefensible.
This is the reason why Muhammad hijab avoided the debate with Sam and Jay 🤣
Jake the Muslim magician pulled a disappearing act too 🪄
@@tea-he8ei You do realize it was Sam who ran away from Jake. Sam suggested 3 subjects to debate but didn't want any subjects from Jake. Jake accepted all 3 of Sam's subjects, but he wanted 1 subject from his side but Sam did not accept that 😂😂😂
@@JoonasKarpthe quality and fairness in proposed subjects is very different.
No he didn't sam Shamon run away from urhman in real life😂
@@3yearsago826 Sam already explained it very well what happened. which believing Uthman is already crazy 🤣
Thanks for having me, this was fun.
Jake dyer, You seem to be adult but i think your mind is still of 5 year old kid. Don't you feel shame worshipping 200 pound human messenger as your personal God? Grow up!! Hell fire is not joke my friend. Don't take it for granted. 🔥
Jay here is my honest debate review (im orthodox)
Yes you 2 destroyed him
But I wish you could speak more daniel is a logical fallacy generator
I wish you could point that out more when sam was pressed on the LPT I wish you could help him out more since he doesnt know much about that.
On the reliability of the bible
Dude thats when they lost...
Sam kept pointing out that the quran confirms the bible (with evidence) and they just apealed to authority 😂😂😂 probably only read bart erhman
On the morality I think you couldve done a bit better jay you know philosphy you could have handled this much better then sam
But overall as the saying goes
"Without lies islam dies"
Ah yes never gets old... ☦️
Well done for the W
Jay❤
Your new name will be Chef Jay ‘cause all you do is cook 🔥
Btw , this debate doesn’t show Sam Shamoun with his 100% arguments and refutations. It’s probably like 10-15% and he still obliterated these fools
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Agreed
Daniel was losing the debate so bad he had to bring up Sams Ex. Is this what Muslims call a W ?? 💀💀☦️
Nah, the truth always wins, christians cant leave their wives around other christian plumbers🤣🤣 poor Sam.
Yes. That's just an ad hominem. When you make an ad Hominem you usually have no rebuttals.
That’s because he insulted their prophet.
@@bluedragon1381 How is it insulting, if it's the truth?
@@bluedragon1381muslims literally butcher Christians and other groups. Be thankful words is all it is
spends the ENTIRE debate saying that the bible is corrupt and unreliable. Ends the debate saying "the bible confirms muhammad as a prophet" 😂😂 these dudes are a joke
You can say that when you have actual authentic sources to check what is true or not. A book being corrupted and unreliable on its own, does not make it all false or untrue. That's why they can say which parts are true, not or neither.
@@nunya54 dude we have all the manuscripts from hundereds of years before your prophet existed. that means that the only bible he could have possibly confirmed in his time is the same one we have today. your entire beliefe relies upon this one single idea. that the bible is corrupted. because if the bible is true that means the quran is not. and since your own quran says that the bible IN THE TIME of your prophet was true, what basis do you have to deny the manuscripts that have remained the same from before the time of muhammad until after?
@@nunya54So only the parts which suit them are true, the others false😂😂😂😂 f o
@@joerafael8743
Liar, all manuscripts are not the same.
There are verses/stories missing in Codex Sinaticus that appears in later manuscripts.
And the Qur'an doesn't use the words "bible", "new testament", or "old testament", in any of it's 114 chapters, so the Qur'an cannot confirm your "bible", you lying polytheist.
@@nunya54 Muslims just lie as they please because Muslims are full of hypocrisy. says the Bible is fake, but uses the Bible to justify his religion🤣🤣. even though all Muslim claims are absurd, without evidence and just empty talk. Even Muslims themselves don't have a manuscript and don't have strong evidence🤣. Even Muslims don't know how to study the book🤣.
A muslim with an internet connection is an ex-muslim
True😂
Lmao 😂
Without lies, islam dies. And I spelled islam without a capital "I" intentionally
😂😂
I’m so blessed to be a follower of Jesus Christ
Amen, brother
I just started Catechism today, I've waited months.
Yo i have question im new but if muhammad never met jesus how is it that the quran mentions jesus if muhammad and the people of that time never met him? Doesnt that mean quran is from god, cuz only he could know it? Also if you think muhammad is false prophet how could it be that there is no vocabulary or grammatacal mistakes and its beautiful in quran? Doesnt that also mean its from god? And why do you believe bible is true and not quran, just cuz it came later and not before bible? Can someone pls answer these questions im new and dont have many knowledge
@@cloxytr9144You are new on what ? ,in the 6 th Century in Arabia Christianity where already spread in the area Mouhammad didn’t need to physically meet Jesus to know him ,he certainly heard about his story or met christian people that’s why some say he has been inspired by The Bible for The Quran , your 2nd point is invalid and shallow The Quran is not a poetic book or a novel is God ‘s Word for muslim its deeper than that and the 3rd point is so obvious cause The Bible and The Torah don’t talk about Mouhammad they don’t mention Islam and according to the same Islam they were previous God ‘s Word before being corrupted according to Islam which also says that Gord’s Word can’t be corrupted
@@edouarddonald4817 are you muslim?
The bald dude is a dangerous opponent for islam because Ive seen how he knows and quotes scriptures both from quran and Bible with no problems
In the Quran and The Bible it's clear that Jesus is in heaven. But when it comes to Mohammed it's unknown what happened to him after death. So if he is in hell whoever believes him and his religion are going to hell...right. Think Muslims....
@@jerinjoseph7420why else do they always have to stop to say "peace be upon him" every time they even say his name lmaooo. Why would you have to say that about someone you know is in the heavenly realm? its almost as if every time they say "peace be upon him" they're unknowingly saying "I sure hope you're in Heaven and are at peace"
@@jerinjoseph7420also if u can compare Jesus who's sinless to Muhammad which Muslim follow and think is the role model of mankind (they think his better than...💀)in what they did and how they act u can clearly see how Jesus from the Bible is not thier isa/or Jesus in the Quran how can he replaced himself at the crucifixion when he literally phropecise it thousand of years before it happens
NO, he is not ... for those who don't know Quran, he may seem sharp but with a knowledgeable p[person, he runs hahaha he RAN before, and he will always do.
In tawheed vs Trinity. Team ✝ never tried to explain the Trinity. Instead they focused mainly on Tawheed. Claiming it's irrational because Allah has a foot. Or Quran will speak to Allah. Daniel explained this beautifully by using the Quran and the bible. Team Islam criticize Trinity and defended Tawheed. That's why ✝ lost this part.
In the open dialogue, team islam asked two questions which cleary debunks the Trinity. My favorite one was "Does the Father has a human mind because jesus has one too" And ijaz's question was legit too(51:20). ✝ lost this one too.
Notice how Team ✝ is again not putting effort to defend the authenticity of Bible?
The only response they had was "Quran confirms the bible" Which shows their dishonesty, that they are arguing to win not to prove their point. How would you prove Bible's authenticity to a non-muslim? ✝ lost this one too.
Morality, both islam and Christianity allows slavery, child marriage and war. But ✝ allow genocide and selling of daughters to slavery. So Islam clearly has moral superiority over Christianity. Islam wins this one.
Arabic ex-muslim here
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Thanks Internet
You are on your own
Congratulations friend! God has blessed you through Jesus Christ His perfect Son.
In tawheed vs Trinity. Team ✝ never tried to explain the Trinity. Instead they focused mainly on Tawheed. Claiming it's irrational because Allah has a foot. Or Quran will speak to Allah. Daniel explained this beautifully by using the Quran and the bible. Team Islam criticize Trinity and defended Tawheed. That's why ✝ lost this part.
In the open dialogue, team islam asked two questions which cleary debunks the Trinity. My favorite one was "Does the Father has a human mind because jesus has one too" And ijaz's question was legit too(51:20). ✝ lost this one too.
Notice how Team ✝ is again not putting effort to defend the authenticity of Bible?
The only response they had was "Quran confirms the bible" Which shows their dishonesty, that they are arguing to win not to prove their point. How would you prove Bible's authenticity to a non-muslim? ✝ lost this one too.
Morality, both islam and Christianity allows slavery, child marriage and war. But ✝ allow genocide and selling of daughters to slavery. So Islam clearly has moral superiority over Christianity. Islam wins this one.
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Tamim al-Dari reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “This matter will certainly reach every place touched by the night and day. Allah will not leave a house or residence but that Allah will cause this religion to enter it, by which the honorable will be honored, and the disgraceful will be disgraced. Allah will honor the honorable with Islam, and he will disgrace the disgraceful with unbelief.”
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them.”
(Matthew 7:15-20) NKJV
One of my favourite verses ❤
SPEAK!!!!!
to me this verse is proof that it cannot have been from God. Obviously bad people can do good things, and good people can do bad things. the world isnt so black and white. This verse was definitely written by a human.
@@Jesus_is_Lord1515 yes beware of wolves like Sam Shamoun
I guess the people of kedar was told to celebrate for a prophet coming for no reason huh 😂 false prophet
i have now converted. All Glory to Christ !
🎉🍾🎊🎇
Glory to Christ, welcome home
Man this is such an obvious BS comment 😂
Godless you my brother I’m happy for you 🙏🏼✝️
congrats!!
> accepts a debate with Christians and even suggests himself to debate morality of Islam compared to Christianity
> gets offended that Christians think his prophet is immoral
> resorts to personal attacks
Daniel is having a rough one
The delusions of Christians never seizes to amaze me
you can have a civil debate. sam was personalizing the discussion, therefore it's fair to do the same.
If you look at these comments, you will see who is disrespecting whose religion. I would have done the same, but it is forbidden to disrespect someone’s beliefs according to the which is why we remain silent. Quran they are a very good example of your religion with such word's they should learn how to respect other religion by saying this won't make ur religion great instead it makes it even worse Sam uses the worst language to insult the Prophet ﷺ and his wives constantly. When someone uses words like "whore" "dog" "pig" and worse, do you smile and be kind? you've declared a winner because someone decided to be mean to someone who curses our religion?
Who made you judge? the The double standard of hypocrites like you - that's why you have no credibility.
Mary got pregnant with your God at 12 (according to u)
@@Iceshakhan Is it moral to enslave and sell girls after killing their families? Shame on such a religion.
I think there’s a warrant for Sam’s arrest now after murdering 2 muslims and lighting islam on fire.
1:53:30 Warrant by the bible to sell his own little girl into s@l@ry? 💀
Seriously you really think Islam got flamed while in reality your corrupted bible got exposed so badly that even Hellen Keller may be able to see that if she was alive 💀💀💀
@@user-yd3uh4pz5e 1:53:30 this is the part where the bible showed its reality so at least be sincere with the truth!
@@DontOpenThisChannel why you worship and obey muhammad?
@@lovekids6835no one worship Mohamed we worship Allah only
A person who makes an immoral personal attack during a debate about morality. Can't make this up.
Actually....
Fr💀
@@TonyKeeh
A person who has moral scandals during the debate about morality. Can't make this up.
@@shiryu9738 are you talking about Mohammed?
@@shiryu9738imagine following a guy who slept with 6 year olds.
Daniel joined Islam for the kids....
Islam takes an L. When Daniel got personal you can see that he couldn’t defend his own position.
@@ericturcott9764 1:53:30 this is the part where the bible showed its reality so at least be sincere with the truth!
@@DontOpenThisChannel the quran has shown worse abdool
@@DontOpenThisChannelnone of Daniel's points invalidate the bible. If the quaran is true, the bible is true, if the bible is true the quaran is not
It pains me to witness the slow and lonely decline of Christianity while Islam continues to thrive. We shouldn’t ignore that
@@angelicentity1401 The Original Gospel is true however it got corrupted and the modern day bible is a altered version with some truth but unfortunately a lot of errors. The Quran is 100% correct.
I think it is significant that Christians do not say “peace be upon him” toward Jesus because he is alive.
And he is the prince of peace
How so? Muslims also believe he's alive and they say peace be upon you to each other all the time.
He IS peace
Muslim pray to Mohammed everyday they say
Peace be upon YOU Mohammed
In the daily prayer
Directly addressing Mohammed
@@Stridonjerome Muslims say peace be upon you to Muslims they talk to everyday. They're not praying to those people. Their daily prayer is TO Allah. Not to Muhammad. This sounds like a very Christian thing to make everything as polytheistic as their religion and have Muslims worship their prophet like Christinas worship theirs.
Daniel isn’t allowed within 50 yards of a primary school…
Hi! I have a friend called Sheikh and I always say to him "Shake it off, Sheikh"😅😅, what a coincidence!😂
@@JacobSyphax Sheikh isn't supposed to be a name.
HAHA, no way i found you here lol
A true Muslim
Keeps burying himself when he keeps telling us he's ok with Child marriage 🤦
Somebody needs to check his hard drives.
Then turns around and says Thomas Aquinas is a PDF-ile.
Can't make this stuff up
Can't wait to see what bits of this you will use in your future videos 😂🤣
As a non religious person but very interested in theology Christian team completely won
Question: Why did Jesus bow down and pray to God according to the Bible
@@randomhuman25951. To teach
2. It says he humbled himself and limited his power, which is why when he was dying he talks about going back to the glory he shared with the father
Its 1 God and three persons
Jesus is the word made flesh
@@randomhuman2595 because the Father is Jesus’s God? What does that have to do with anything? The Christian still destroyed the Muslims? 😂
@@Btsalien07 So the Son temporarily became less powerful than the Father?
Lοgic of god according to bible
Eze 4: 12 - 15 human S H l T nοτ clean but cοw's one is clean to eaτ !! 😂😂
Isaiah 7: 20 God shαving people legs like M A l D 😂😂
As a Christian, I was open to listening the Islam representatives. When they resort to insults and showing the Plummer shows islams class.
So you ignore the insults which Shamoun started throwing from literary the first minute he opened his mouth and wine that Daniel had to remind him about him being the biggest L possible by reminding him of a plumber who fk his wife in their bedroom ? 😂😂😂
This was one sided debate. Muslims destroyed Christianity in three hours or so
What's the point of showing mario? I didn't get it.
@conservativeriot5939 they kept insulting the prophet muhammad so he showed mario the plumber because Sam's wife got knocked by a plumber.
@@akramsahab4154 oh, that's messed up.
The christian apologists absolutely embarassed the muslim ones. CHRIST IS KING
Yes he is king but as a Prophet of God. 😎
Seems like you can feel their emotions of embarrassment using unholy spirit, that's next level science 🌝
@@DontOpenThisChannel 😂😂😂😂
No they didn't sam shampoo. Couldn't answer about the Trinity question they got owned by the muslim😂
@@DontOpenThisChannelwhy would they be embarassed when they won?
Best part of this debate is Sam staring at the camera and the Muslims staring at their PowerPoint presentations
PowerPoint presentations written by Big Mo himself, in between smashing 9 year olds in ‘heaven’
part of the debate? i think that was happening the whole debate
@@yaqo6577 rip christian logic 💀
cry more @@DontOpenThisChannel
@@ChadNobark islam got nuked on all topics. stay mad
Being muslim in 2024 is actually crazy
2 billion Muslims and they are more practicing muslims then christians who drink alcholol and cheat on their wifes
Being Christian actually is especially the ones that talk about turning the other cheek.
💯💯💯
2 billion ppl btw
Fastest growing by the way
Social media is destroying Islam in these debates
@@noahsoundz1048 did you watch the same debate as me? 🤣
@@monamobareki mean they can't comprehend basic concept, their beloved sam lied about r@pe and killing of women and children. It's perfectly applicable to Al-Hajj 22:46
@@monamobarekyea i did, did you see that part where your prophet got ousted as a pdf? 😂😂😂😂
@@superowned there’s nothing super about you except your rudeness and disrespect 🤮
@@monamobarek😂 are you deaf bro ?
You know Sam is COOKING when he starts saying, “Oh look, they’re manifesting!” Best part of the debate
sign of manifesting? reckless blaspheming of God.
@@RepentanceNow-fg4vq 🔥
FACTS 😂
@@Jimillionare10 1:53:30 this is the part where the bible showed its reality so at least be sincere with the truth!
@@RepentanceNow-fg4vqshut up boi
It was a blood bath not a debate. Sam destroyed both of them.
And this is exactly why Muhammad hijab avoided this debate 😂
This is so true my brother because he can see the Christian side have already taken a big L 💀
@@DontOpenThisChannel 😂😂😂😂😂 cope my g cope
HIjab can't even debate Sam😂😂👏🏻.
@DontOpenThisChannel the mental gymnastics is strong with you!
@@DontOpenThisChannelcope 😂
Shocked they allowed Sam Shamoun on here to openly destroy them. Thats actually pretty crazy
That's real talk cause Sam ain't playing no games.
@@dionbernard3033😂😂😂😂😂 Sam ain’t taking no prisoners.
So much cope here lol
After watching that debate I think both parties came with strong points but over all I think Sam and Jake held more points together Daniel spoke his truth BUT many misleading statements too. But on the other hand Sam did not try to mislead he tried to teach
They never will again lol, Uthman and Hijab are already wise enough not to try.
I lost it when they tried to debate that Jesus was LESS MORAL than ISLAM
@@RockstarGroyper well by Bible teachings yes
@@architecturalabyou don’t believe the Bible teachings are even true today. Christ is your savor too. Muslims really are all over the place.
@@Lord_Jay90 Do you believe Bible teachings are true? If so then it should bother you... I could care less whether they are three in 1, they are co-equal, or the Father is greater...yet you worship Jesus, but Jesus worships the Father. Then Jesus died for our sins, but God can never die. No, he reunited with the Father and fuse...?? So there was no sacrifice......Logic falls apart with Christianity, which is why it was avoided in the debate.....Muslims believe he was a prophet just like Moses, Abraham, Noah, etc. He never died..... He was raised to heaven, and he will return to defeat the antichrist live a normal life get married, and die just like the prophet of old. Simple no demi-god complex here just one god "Father Hallowed is he.."
@@RockstarGroyper and they proved it.
@@architecturalabwtf are you trying to say? First off saying that Jesus dying can’t be true because god can’t die? I mean was he not in a physical human body died then resurrected and appeared to people. Weren’t his people killed tortured and persecuted for their beliefs in his teaching? Would you be killed for something you no 100% to be false ex someone coming back to life after everyone saw them die? I’m sure you wouldn’t but idk maybe the disciples and women and others that saw him were all Delulu. Not to mention he appeared to the women first, something that would never have been written if they didn’t believe it back then. Yall the ones who claim women are secondary to men during that time so idk you tell me why a “man” would write a women saw Jesus first after he resurrected
Isn't is awesome that the ENTIRE WORLD keeps track of time based on Jesus. That's powerful folks.
I always think of this.
The entire world is following a Christian dating system.
Christ is King. 🔥
@@JRR8888 And Muslims think the whole world bases time off just some low level messenger. Smh
That's polytheism. Kind of like how the whole world got drowned once for the same thing. And no, the whole world doesn't actually keep track of time that way, lol.
@@ReneeEmmitt The Muslim calendar is not based off the messenger. It's based off the moon and the establishing of the Muslim nation.
Islam calendar is based off the moon?? 🤔 this supports the idea that Islam is based off moon worship!
Thanks bro!
Without LIES Islam DIES
What lies lol you're lying
if indeed Jesus is God or the Father himself,
when he was resurrected and lifted up to heaven, why did he sit at the right hand of his father/God, just like the angels who were around God,
If it is true that the entity of Jesus is the same as the entity of his father,
why the entity of Jesus in heaven does not return to being one person or being one entity with his father ?
When in heaven the entity of Jesus is at the right hand of his father, that means that the entity of Jesus is separate from the entity of his father, and that also means that in the world and in heaven, Jesus is still a person or an entity that is separate and different from the entity of his father
@CghbbFg Christianity already dead....LGBTQ people leads it...atheist staring fronts...churches shut down
That's Christianity without lies Christianity dies script changes every year. Jesus pbuh is a prophet yet made a god by Christians Paul is more important than Jesus pbuh. The moment you know the Bible changes every year end of debate
If it rhymes it Must be true
This must be the worst century for Islam since the Crusades. Sam W
The crusades lost to islam non stop. The muslims defeated those devils and because of that, much of the christian world (North Africa, East Africa, the middle east, and parts of eastern Europe) is now muslim. Palestine, Egypt, Iraq, Turkey(Constantinople) +, all were christian, but crusaders are so weak of heart, and such cowards that they lost everything. And they always will. Alhamdulillah.
Never forget ... You can't change the past.
And history is easy to go check if you doubt.
What do you mean
The crusades were a failure…
You lost the crusades 6-3 wtf are you on 😂😂
@@izoo-mm9uk Those, however, who reject (the truth), it makes no difference to them whether you warn them or warn them not, they will not believe.
Sam Shamoun: *talks about child marriage for 3 minutes straight.*
Daniel: *immediately after* “notice how the Christians refuse to talk about child marriage.”
🤦♂️
Daniel needs to check his ears. 😂😂😂
about the bible's child marriage of 3 yrs old
@@Messicanbatman if you can produce a bible verse that says that, go for it.
@@Messicanbatmanall talk but you showed no verse
@@bigol9223 Let's do the math, Sarah was 90 when she had Isaac, when Sarah died at 127, 127-90=37, which was the age of Isaac, Isaac was 37 when Rebecca was born and Isaac married Rebecca at age 40 which makes Rebecca 3
Not only did these Muslims lose, but their immature and childish behavior was an embarrassment.
The fact he resorts to Sam's personal family life in a theological debate shows how vile this person's character is. Such a disgrace.
Yep
It is their best argument against Sam. Not a good argument but their best. I will attack his character to debunk his arguments. They don’t understand how grace works in Christianity because they are not a religion of grace.
Sam started insulting prophet Muhammad pbuh and muslims didnt want to insult Jesus, so yeah insulting central figure of soneones faith will get you in trouble. Just as Daniel said
@@ahmedkadic4634They insulted Christ multiple times by misrepresenting him in their understanding of Sacred Scripture. You know insults aren’t just personal attacks but they are also misrepresenting someone or painting a false image of someone, slander could be an insult. They were attacking Christ of the Old Testament(out of context I must say). That is an insult of Christ for any Christian.
Christianity refutes its ownself. But by personally attacking him, he showed how many of the cross worshippers are hypocritical to your own faith
These muslims used every dirty tactic in the book and still took an L.
1:53:30 this is the part where the bible showed its reality and Christians took the biggest L 💀
I mean seriously do you really think it's a word of God?
@@DontOpenThisChannelyou said a lot of nothing just now 😂
Why don't you listen to the actual explanation 🤔
@@DontOpenThisChannelcope harder pdfile worshiper 😝😝😝😜🤪
@@DontOpenThisChannel our word of God is divine and he is Jesus.
even your quran steals the gospel of John and calls e'ssa (mythical jesus) as spirit proceeding from hubaal and word of hubaal . i mean allah
Debating Sam Shamoun is a nightmare for Muslims. He understands Arabic, and seemlingy knows the Qurans, Hadiths and the Holy Bible from memory. Deceiving ain’t possible with this brother.
Lol this is the funniest comment I saw in this comment section, dude can't even speak Arabic like in an Arabic cartoon dub doesn't know anything about quran nor hadith and ofc throw his bible out the window the first chance he get more ironic that he didn't even say a word about trinity
The fact is christians themselves don't understand it, as Ibn Hazm said: if we didn't debate christians we wouldn't be believe that there's such a thing as christians
He alters verses and hadiths as he citing them. What are you talking about?
@M_S_G001 can you show which ones he manipulates?
@@iosis2009 Go check them yourself. You will learn to discern Truth from Falsehood.
Muslims have a duty to always study and engage intellectually as every muslim (like anyone else) is accountable for his/her actions and intentions.
@M_S_G001 "go check them yourself" is hardly "engaging intellectually". Also, if you want accountability you have to support your own claims with evidence. Anyone can make a claim, but to defend your claim and explain it, that is being accountable. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The onus is on the claimant to provide the evidence for their claim.
I will, however, try and cross reference some of his claims he makes. I have in the past and found no contradictions. I actually find sam quite reliable due to him typically citing his quotes accurately, like he always seems ready to say from where,or whom, his quotes originate.
He said Christians don’t have manuscripts in the 1st century. We have over 5000 Greek manuscripts dating back to the 1st and 2nd century
name one manu in the First century
Funny thing is you don't know they were written by Christians or the actual followers of Jesus.
@@nunya54 The same argument can be made of the Quran
@@yalechuk6714 It actually can't because the disciples of Muhammad wrote and compiled it; it also does not have authors like the many manuscripts of the Bible and also is original and hasn't been changed or altered.
@@nunya54 This is the most silly belief you guys hold. To believe yours is compiled and preserved even when history and your own source say otherwise is funny. You need to check in with Sheik Yasir Qadi for a start .
I admire myron for not being scared to bring sam shamoun up. All the muslim creators have been running from him
I hope this makes Myron consider Christianity
Nobody’s run from Sam. He’s not nearly as good as you guys think he is. He’s just angry and whiney
@@Ntwadumela266 hes angry and whiney when they got so triggered they had to start personally attacking him… right
@@Ntwadumela266 the fact that you went ahead and made a comment about him rather than understanding the context of his statements tells me you’re just being stupid and ignorant.
@@Ntwadumela266He's exposed Islam on so many occasions there's definitely a reputation there.
Talking about Sam’s personal life is very weird
Especially since it was totally irrelevant to the point.
Especially since it was irrelevant and it shows how soft they are.
Sam using the uno reverse card and turn it in Muhammad was epic because we all sins
Take in mind he’s a grown ass man doing this🤦♂️ embarrassing
Weird and rude.
This isn’t a contest, it’s a rescue mission. We must remember to love people.
1 Peter 3:15-16
"But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect, keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander
Amen May we seek to win souls not just debates !
@@doloresdsmith 1:53:30 this is the part where the bible showed true love 💀
@@DontOpenThisChannel if you read the Bible, & Sought out a personal relationship with our Lord and savior, with your whole heart, you would be given understanding on all things of the Bible, by the Holy Spirit. Even the things that are not easy to digest, once first reading them.
If you only knew how much Jesus loves you. He loves you more than anyone on this earth has or will ever love you. It’s a healing love. May the Father draw you to the son, so that you will one day experience the life changing intimacy with him.
@@doloresdsmith agree with you except the part where Jesus is Lord. He was a man who was born, who depended on his mother in his infancy. He ate, drank , slept and went to the toilet. These are human characteristics. High above is God from these limitations. He is above all needs and wants.
@@monamobarek
No one comes..." "Jesus said to him, 'I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6).
The muslims got cooked so the little piggy starts insulting personal life
How does Sam explain Numbers 31
@@randomhuman2595why don’t you ask him yourself. You can call him on his show.
How do you explain Allah praying to himself, arguing with himself, getting astonished by his creatures, and occupying space, but claiming to be the creator of space?
@@RobertCalvert-b3o Give verses please
@@randomhuman2595 surah 33-56
Sam had these dudes blood boilingggggg 💀💀💀
do you know what that even means blood boiling? or you just throwing that out as you watched first few segments and concluded the debate
@@AZULA69 literally all the points the Muslims gave was answered and soon thrown away , however the muslims answered just 1 of the points given in the 5 min timeframe and ran away from the rest
@@AZULA69 seethe and cope, Christ is King
@@xravenx24fe Jesus aint god buddy, sorry that ur church father lied to you. I of my own self can do nothing
@@Dont-worry1618 MuhamMAD (Police Be Upon Him)
Sam cooked them lol, I usually like this channel on other topics but he brought the wrong person on to defend Islam. Sam studied both the Bible and Quran cover to cover, and owned some of the best Muslim apologists on YT.
There is no right person to defend Islam. Lol show me the best Muslim apologist.
Everyone is saying he cooked them but no one is telling how did he cooked them.
Because they can't.
I can confidently say Daniel and ijaz cooked them both.
Here's how:
In tawheed vs Trinity. Team ✝ never tried to explain the Trinity. Instead they focused mainly on Tawheed. Claiming it's irrational because Allah has a foot. Or Quran will speak to Allah. Daniel explained this beautifully by using the Quran and the bible. Team Islam criticize Trinity and defended Tawheed. That's why ✝ lost this part.
In the open dialogue, team islam asked two questions which cleary debunks the Trinity. My favorite one was "Does the Father has a human mind because jesus has one too" And ijaz's question was legit too(51:20). ✝ lost this one too.
Notice how Team ✝ is again not putting effort to defend the authenticity of Bible?
The only response they had was "Quran confirms the bible" Which shows their dishonesty, that they are arguing to win not to prove their point. How would you prove Bible's authenticity to a non-muslim? ✝ lost this one too.
Morality, both islam and Christianity allows slavery, child marriage and war. But ✝ allow genocide and selling of daughters to slavery. So Islam clearly has moral superiority over Christianity. Islam wins this one.
@@muzamil69054 You literally wrote a book here but when the Islam guys refused to debate in good faith, they would never reach consensus no matter what is said. Sam has answered the question on trinity many times on his channel, but there’s no short answer the bad faith guys will ever accept. They literally resort to ad hominem attacks, talking about his ex wife and dirty tactics, refused to answer questions, and kept using strawman answers while dodging their questions. Hence, they were cooked. Still didn’t answer on the consistency of the Quran, Quran literally admit the Bible or at least those 4 books in NT were not corrupted, and if those books are true the Islam must be false. And Muhammad literally raped a child, no way around that. She was 6 years old and raped her when she was 9, good luck defending that crap.
That’s the thing, there can be no right person to defend the wrong thing. Islam took a massive L here and the internet will literally end islam.
@@jovannikolic8032 why is that everyone's saying islam lost but don't want to tell how?
There’s a reason there are very few Muslims trying to defend this debate.
@@triggered8556 it’s because it was such a joke that most people thought it wasn’t worth their time. If there was a respectable representative then maybe more Muslims would have engaged.
@@monamobarek that’s always the excuse. Where are these expert Muslim debaters at? I doubt Jay and Sam would decline any of them.
Sam debated sheikh uthman at uthmans stall check it out
@@mazharul checking what ? uthman misunderstood the trinity for tritheis ? believing christian have 3 gods ? uthman didn't understand what hypostasis is, actually funny one lol.
1) sam is a horrible debater.
2) he throws insults throughout the whole debate, which means he lacks the ability and knowledge to properly answer or rebuttal
3) both Christians need to explain their answers as if someone who is neutral listening and willing to pick a side after, but they were both busy insulting amd all over the place
It baffles my mind even when i used to be a hardcore atheist how people can read the Islamic theology and dont connect the dots on the immense amount of illogical things in islam. The entire islamic theology ( philosophically, scientifically, historically & metaphysically) is beyond flawed no matter how u slice the🔪🎂
Any examples?
@@gzuzzWhat do you mean any examples? Did you even watch the debate they talk about this many times.
@@gzuzz Muhammad said the sun sets in murky waters.
Bro spent his entire opening statement attacking Christianity instead of explaining Islam
Cause Islam is absurd…Muhammad never had a single prophecy come true…😂 plus there’s the whole kiddie marriage thing which is super yucky 🤢
Bc Islam is not as complicated as Christianity to explain xD
You have no clue what the debate topics are and what opening statements are for, that's embarrassing lmao.
@@imazspams6760complicated doesn’t mean wrong 😂
A divinely protected book called Q ran that gets eaten by a goat and has no context or chronology, it's explained by a libraries worth of contradicting hadith books that ARE NOT divinely protected. The Muslim god Allah has loads of corrupt books he sent down, and Muslims think this is a flex on other groups? Not complicated at all....
When you start bringing someone’s wife into debate, you know you are in deep 💩. W Sam
you are delusional 0 comprehension skills if your brain actually functions you wouldnt be following sam or the current bible
didn't he insult the prophet prophet p.b.u.h?
Insulting Mohammed by just saying he married a 6 year old girl and then slept with her when she's nine? That he's the "plumber" who took other people wives, including his adopted son's wife? That its okay to beat your wives whenever you feel like it? If Sam would insult Muhammad then Daniel should insult Jesus but Daniel couldn't really find fault on Jesus so he has to attack Sam which is entirely irrelevant to the debate even if true or not. Daniel is basically a child who would insult you rather than defend Muhammad because even he too can't defend that plumber.
@@silenthero2795except we don’t insult prophets of god 😂😂 , that’s the difference between both religions, Christian’s think they can mock our religion and get away with it 😂 cry harder.
Police be upon him
Ex Muslim here👋 Praise Jeesus!!!🙏🙏🙏
lie
@@AZULA69you're* 🤣
Why do y'all wave it around like a certificate
@@Liandrethal certificate of survival. Bunch of dippy fanatics trying to end ex Muslims everywhere.
@@AZULA69there are so many ex Muslims. My Wife is a ex Muslima....
Muslims crying in the Comments daniel won daniel won 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sneako sweating behind the computer screen 😂😂
Every knee will bow
Every tongue will confess.
That Jesus Christ is Lord.
Amen
And Amen!
Saint Thomas was saying if 2 teenagers fall in love and want to marry, they can if they are mature enough. It does not mean a 40 yr old gets to marry her
Said by the believer of the book filled with $@@@[X] between father and daughter 💀
You should release the bug fixed update of your naughty naughty book 🌝
@@DontOpenThisChannelI'm coming for you, TRUST me you'll have it rough lamebrain 😂
thats pedophelia
@@DontOpenThisChannelDon't lie about the bible, i know you're that st*** to read context ( (1 Corinthians 7:36-38) I heard Jibril is a great teacher, it takes only 3 chkehlds and you start Reading. @DontOpenThisChannel
Islam really does reduce people to a petty level, just reading through the comments, most pro muslim comments are unhinged, come to christ and be healed by him, daniel resorted to personal attacks on sam hiding behind an argument of "its in defence of our prophet" cowards who hide, wolfs in sheep skin, snakes, sam was bold as a lion, this is the power that the father the son and the holy spirit grants.
wut de yap 💀😂😭
@@OpIslam13 you just proved his point buddy
Sam, Jay, Godlogic, Bob, Christian Prince... LIONS 🦁. True warriors and disciples of Jesus Christ. May God bless them and protect them.
Christianity is declining
@@user-rl9tu3jo8u Iran closed over 50000 mosques and is becoming Christian.
If you are telling me it's declining while in the middle east where Islam is concentrated, that there is Christianity rising you are wishfully thinking.
Literally one of the original regions of Islam is converting to Christianity. 🙏🕊️✝️.
Clearly Islam has lost
Sam literally throttled them. Jay was just adding insult to injury. Christian won this debate flawlessly
“Name the oldest Quranic manuscript that has all 114 suras” and “Name any two Quran manuscripts that are 100% identical”. Three hours later, they still haven’t answered!!! The best answer from Muslims which is the Birmingham quran apparently has only 2 suras compared to Haffs which has 114 and the 2 suras are not 100% identical with the Haffs - sourced from ChatGpt
@@KelsJune 1:53:30 this is the part where the bible showed its reality so at least be sincere with the truth!
Birmingham Quran.
All Quran manuscripts are identical in Skeletal text since diacretical marks are not actually part of the Quran.
Now which bible is correct? Kjv or niv?
@@theislamicjourney960 But that's not the argument. The actual argument is that all qurans are and always have been from the very first one exactly the same (because its god's actual word, so it can't be changed... at least theoretically).
name a biblical manuscript with any word from before 300 ad 😂😂
@@JohnDorian-j7x The actual argument is mass memorization, not manuscripts. Manuscripts never been the argument for 1400 years, its always about what we cal "Mutawatir" ie masstransmission
As an athiest, I think the Christians won fair and square
creation proves GOD
Bruh at least don’t lie about being an atheist
@@virginiahernandez1329destruction?
Proves humanity @@S.O.A_Zero
@@christina4012 Humanity proved that nothing gets created nor destroyed
The debate is fire. Sam Shamoun & Jay Dyer are the Dream Team. Islam slayers! Christianity Won! Glory to God!
Really? I agree that Sam and Jay were the more grounded and least confused when making their points. And I also am willing to admit that as a Christian, I’m glad the Christian team had the stronger performance generally speaking due to my theological bias. However, this particular performance from pretty much everyone (least so from Jay) was a nightmare. It was either mean-spirited with ad-hominem/arrogance/condescension/ constant straw manning, or filled with confusion on what points/questions were being presented. It was honestly one of the most difficult debates ive watched in a while…:/
@@a7c777You are just wet behind the ears. You clearly have not got out there and debated many Muslims, or even know that the Quran teaches to lie to "unbelievers" so you can trick them into death later on.
The fact these guys follow a guy that was with a 9 year old as a 53 year old tells you everything.
A pagan believes in a particular hadith wow😂. What other hadiths do you believe
@@CristianoRonaldo-li9guIt’s graded sahih no? Sunan an-Nasa’i 3378
someone tell this dude how old was his god parents
@@4kids555his god parents were supposedly sent but god.
@@CristianoRonaldo-li9guwe are pagans but you circle and kiss a black box given to your leader by pagans you do counless rituals your the pagan
Guys stop commenting how utterly destroyed the Islam team was, I can’t like all of them
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When you're talking to _Paulian_ ...
Q: Who is God?
A: Jesus
Q: Is Jesus the son of Mary?
A: Yes,
Q: Who is God?
A: Jesus
*God Jesus was born from the mother he created (Mary)
Q: Is Jesus a born son?
A: Yes,
Q: Who is his father?
A: God
Q: Who is God?
A: Jesus
*God Jesus is the father of God Jesus and the creator of the mother he was born from her the son of his wife
Q: Is Jesus the servant of God?
A: Yes,
Q: Did Jesus die on the cross?
A: Yes,
Q: And for whom did he go up?
A: To God
*God Jesus was crucified & ascended to God Jesus
Q: Is Jesus a Messenger?
A: Yes,
Q: Who sent him?
A: God
Q: Who is God?
A: Jesus
*God Jesus was the messenger of God Jesus. God sends himself as a Messenger of himself
Q: Did Jesus pray when he was alive?
A: yes,
Q: Whom was he praying for?
A: For God
Q: Who is God?
A: Jesus
*God Jesus worships God Jesus himself
Q: Does God have a beginning?
A: No
Q: So who was born on December 25th?
A: Jesus
Q: Who is God?
A: Jesus
*God Jesus is eternal before everything but he was born in 25th Dec
Q: Where is God?
A: In heaven
Q: How many Gods are there in heaven?
A: God is only one.
Q: Where is Jesus sitting?
A: He is sitting on the right of God.
Q: Is Jesus a God?
A: Yes
Q: So how many Gods are there in heaven?
A: Only one God
Q: Where is Jesus?
A: He is sitting to the right of God.
Q: So how many gods are there in heaven?
A: Only one god. Still
Q: Is Jesus a God?
A: Yes
Q: So who many seated gods are there?
A: Only one God?
Q: Where is Jesus?
A: He is sitting next to the god.
Q: How many gods are in heaven?
A: Only one.
Q: Are they sitting on the same chair?
A: These words are understood only by the one who has the holy spirit.
*so.. God sacrificed God to God in order to save God's creation from God. God prayed to God for help but God didn't help God, and God killed God with help from humans. And that God is a father of himself and the mother of himself and the son of mother he created at the same time. He is also eternal but his birthday is...? 🙏
He didn’t destroy anything, you are just glazing
dudes won’t even let sam answer. everytime he tries to answer they cut him off. they get so emotional they start mentioning his wife lmao. that’s the sign of someone that is no in their feelings and feel so bad they want the other person to feel how they feel. HURT!
Coz sam is constantly lying. You cant let a liar get off with false premises it will make the febate look like trash. Christianity is poison i tell ya
Well if he curse prophet muhammed who is much dear to us than even our parents, then what do you expect in return?! 🌚
@@nabborma i would want to destroy him not his wife. he had no rebuttal at all. muhammad would be disappointed. but daniel is the one who started it listen to his opening statement. he set the tone
@@nabborma did you listen to the opening statement? daniel set the tone. instead of attacking his wife why didn’t he attack his argument? lmao he couldn’t
@nabborma When Daniel called the Triune God polytheistic whom Christians love and worship, what did Muslims expect will happen? Muslims insult the God of the Bible and then complain all the time.
The two Christians won this debate intellectually.
Sam: literally quoting the Quran
Daniel: "yeah that eas all gobbledygook"
That's what it was, U proved jesus is Allah, u proved Muhammad SAW is a False prophet, U proved that Allah is Jeses, bro u saying that doesn't make it that.
Team Islam literally reading from a script during the whole show...
I know it was so funny when they said sam didn't know the Quran buy he can say the verses without reading but they have to
@tan Sam is a clown he legit said Khairul Maakireen is “The best of deceivers” when it’s actually is The best of planners
@@OpIslam13 its best of deceivers liar...
@@OpIslam13Sam said no lie when he said that, and none of your Islamic scholars want to debate him for a reason. Mohammd hijab keeps running his mouth and literally backed out last min. And wants to resort to “Oh I’ll debate him on the condition of him boxing me”….. ahhh he’s scared, and Sam still accepted that offer. And he’s still nowhere to be seen. That religion is a joke and the ppl defending it are too.
@@OpIslam13 give me the scripture
Muslims should already know “NEVER BRING SAM SHAMOUN ON” That is the most foolish thing you could EVER DO!!! This guy has obliterated Islam over and over again much of his entire life. Many Muslims must be thinking, “Why in the World did you do this”
Lmao he got cooked in a 2v1 with David wood against Sheikh Uthman
If you keep repeating those lies you might believe the delusion
@@striker7625Uthman? He is worse than Daniel here 🤦🏻 Let’s get serious.
Cause dawaghandists are narcicists.
@@striker7625Huh? The one where uthman didn't acknowledge them?
I’m loud I can interrupt so I’m right - every Muslim
Wow this was a bbq 😂😂😂 props to Jay and Sam
Gonna do a review/watch?
What BBQ??? You must be smoking
@@tjmirez7556are you illiterate 😅
Nice cope my boi.
Ruslan my favorite Protestant
Daniel pikachu says Islam have equal rights of women.
Meanwhile he was also celebrated the ban of Education in Afghanistan 😂
He also celebrates child marriage. He thinks it's a good thing.
This proves how talented Muslims are at not answering questions
In fairness, the dude on the top right represents the WORST of Muslim apologetics. There are better apologists than him. Not that I think they're any more correct.
@@Lambdamale.he actually represents Islam perfectly cause he follows what it teaches more than most Muslims
@@Lambdamale. Yeah that is true!
But let's be honest they would still lose because his only replacement is sheikh utman and he already got cooked by God logic
Sam dictates ANY debate. His extensive knowledge of both religions is what amazes me. Memorizing scriptures on both sides plus using logic.
Thank God he’s on the Christian side 🤍🤍🤍
I agree. He does so well until he wants to start chasing man, and tradition like praying repetitive hail Mary's etc which is absolutely prohibited in scripture. Makes no sense why he wants to do that. But Everything else, he's good.
I think he's off on Mystery Babylon. He doesn't realize that Mystery Babylon will be where people with little hats worship from a book called the Babylonian Talmud. Lol
@RobertCalvert-b3o Jesus teaches us to pray Our Father isn’t it repetitive to say our father all the time ?
We got to be honest there’s no bias in this. The Muslim lost the debate
every muslim will lose a debate on Scripture....
U must be deaf and blind 😂.
Pretty much destroyed thrm like muslims always destroy christians 😂
Completely disagree. Your boys didn’t even explain the trinity on the first section.
@@sami3289 also they didnt explain how Jesus is God even according to bible like always lol they collect their victories in ad hominem lol
ex muslim here, this just strengthened my faith in christ, if u know jesus and know islam, u'll know who is right. god is love, islam is a worldly religion from the enemy.
@@allyd444 how many rakats in wudu?
@@Relokagzz😂😂, it's like Lgbt they use ex Muslim as an identity.
@@drilliterate4079 Keep coping
@@javierduenasjimenez7930 Well Truth is clear.
Crying "Islamphobia" says that Muslims are the ones aping the alphabet mafia 🤣
Too emotional, personal, and filled with insults and ridiculous insinuations. No ability to stick to the subject matter... Christ is King
Said by the guy who believes a God is killing another God who is crying and begging to be saved but God doesn't accept so he can forgive humans sins while another God is watching and all of them are one person.
Bring a better story bro 💀
@@DontOpenThisChannel Do you know anything about Christian theology or are you gonna repeat what YOU think you know and not what is actually believed or written in scripture for the Bible?
It is ONE God, Monotheism, who are 3 distinct beings but not separate. Some Muslims do not realize, that thinking this is impossible for God because of comparisons to earthly worldly creation, is literally shirk.
IS IT not shirk to compare your god if you are muslim to anything not allah? To say "No its impossible for allah to be infinite because no human can"
So if you read the Bible, Jesus IS God, as he affirms in John 8, Revelations 1, as well as it is affirmed in Hebrews 1, Hebrews 2, Philippians 2, John 3, John 1, and many many more chapters and verses.
So when you say God is KILLING another "God," you're wrong. It is Jesus who IS God, willingly going with the Will of the Father even though he has human emotion of fear and what not, because he LIMITED himself to the form of a Human if you just read Philippians 2,
to DIE for our sins to be paid. So man, if you are gonna critique Christianity, at least KNOW what the theology is regarding God.
@@DontOpenThisChannel You're misinterpreting even the foundations of Christianity. Please do some research then come back once you understand the Trinity and have read the Bible.
That's Islam. David said it years ago. In their mind the person that wins a debate is the one that shows more emotion and has the best insults.
Team Islam defeat >>💀
Team Christian victory >>😇
The Muslims were really just wasting time in the open dialogues lol
Say: Inshallah
يسوع هو الله ☦️@@maiknagradic1157
Your christians could not even do it. They failed on every topic! Sam lied and turned of his camera. Dont ever compare bible to the Quran.
@@khamkunthamhaksa8950have you watched the debate?
@@Aggressivetruths YES! Thats why I commented, or am I wrong? If so update me.
Allah left Islam and became apostate and converted to Christianity after watching this debate 😂😂😂
*3:59** Holy Qur'an*
إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَىٰ عِندَ ٱللَّهِ كَمَثَلِ ءَادَمَ ۖ خَلَقَهُۥ مِن تُرَابٍۢ ثُمَّ قَالَ لَهُۥ كُن فَيَكُونُ ٥٩
Indeed, the example of Jesus to *Allāh* is like that of Adam. He created him from dust; then He said to him, "Be," and he was.
@@ouch000u quran detected opinion rejected
@@christrisen6589 *Holy Qur'an* About the *Creator* of all worlds
*42:5 Holy Qur'an*
تَكَادُ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٰتُ يَتَفَطَّرْنَ مِن فَوْقِهِنَّ ۚ وَٱلْمَلَـٰٓئِكَةُ يُسَبِّحُونَ بِحَمْدِ رَبِّهِمْ وَيَسْتَغْفِرُونَ لِمَن فِى ٱلْأَرْضِ ۗ أَلَآ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ هُوَ ٱلْغَفُورُ ٱلرَّحِيمُ ٥
The heavens almost burst apart above them [in awe of Him], and the angels glorify the praises of their Lord, and seek forgiveness for those on earth. Indeed, *Allah* is the All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
*2:136 Holy Qur'an*
Say, O believers, “We believe in *Allah* and what has been revealed to us; and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and his descendants; and what was given to Moses, Jesus, and other prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them. And to *Allah* we all submit.”
@christeisen65
Your brain left after thinking Scared Shampoo won this debate (like you ever had a brain)
@christrisen6589 Allah is the arabic word for God you poor ignorant soul. Arab Christians call God "Allah". Just like Dios is Spanish and Allaha in Aramaic (Jesus's language)
Lol Daniel thinks he's winning by saying he's fine with Child marriage, and then has to resort to spending half his time to attack Sam personally. Shameful is this Islam?
He didn’t insult him let’s not lie here 😂
Sam was attacking Daniel too though, so what’s your point ?
Rebecca
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What personal insult? Yes Sam got hardcore cucked by a plumber and his wife liked his tools better according to sam himself, but what it has to do with this ?
They lost the debate at 30:12 when the guy admitted to Allah being a composite god
I think they lost much earlier but I see your point
I mean he admitted that in his opening statement lol
Atheist here but man, this Sam guy is good!
When you start to belive in God you know exactly which religion you should come
I hope that you will become a brother in Christ my friend. Peace be with you.
I used to be a hardcore athiest just a year ago, there's so many reasons to believe in a God- provided by scholars, and then people like sam help us realize who the true God is!
@user-lj1
Bro went from believing in 0 gods to believing in 3
Bros holy sprit is working hard 💀😂😭💀💀
I hope you seek what you find friend. Genesis 1:1 is a scientific fact. I’m a former convicted felon who the Lord found in jail. Now I’m a Christian a father and a family man who serves the Lord. All glory to Jesus
No way you can watch this and think that Islam won i came into this with no bias in me after watching this sam and jay destroyed Islam to the smallest decimal
They can sound like they won an argument but they can't destroy Islam. They can't prove anything about Islam false while claiming to believe in a religion that has plenty in it proven false.
Are you Christian, Muslim or non-theist? Just asking for data.
@@nunya54why Christianity is false according to you 💀
@@DionAnims There's literally no evidence to support the modern doctrines of Christianity being true. Even committed Christian scholars admit this fact. The beliefs don't align with the earliest Christians beliefs. The scripture is historically inaccurate in many places, proven to be embellished and corrupted in places. Too many of the ideas are illogical and contradictory.
If Christianity is from God, where are we supposed to learn about it authentically with all the problems the Bible has? Are we going to be held accountable for knowing and following a religion no one can prove, that has teachings that contradict each other, that can't be sourced back to Jesus, that have embellished and false and unhistoric parts proven in it? That's not logical to believe about God. God has to be wise, God has to be just. That is not wise or just to hold people to believing in that. The sources of Christianity meet the lowest or have no standard when it comes to verifying information. Christians today still don't know or agree on who God is. How can over 2000 years a religion be so unclear?
There's far, far too much I could write about this but I'll just say doing the research, finding the evidence, there's simply no way Christianity is true and anyone who says so has either not done that or is being dishonest or saying some pretty terrible things about God that I can't believe.
Islam win every time stop being deaf dumb and blind
Verrrrrry poor performance by team Islam. Embarrassing, you could even say.
Not really. It just depends which side you find yourself on and you’ll have a biased view of who “won”.
@@SupermanOG lol... Ok Abdool 😂
Stay proud while Kissing your stone👍
@@SupermanOG Daniel en his buddy got schooled very hard.
It’s cuz Mohamed did a poor performance of bein a prophet
@@SupermanOG Nah it was poor, they offered almost no citations for things they were saying. Their 'quotes' from the Bible were paraphrasing and reading into it what they wanted it to mean.
Islam never stood a chance
Of course not, it's from Satan.
I'm a simple man. I see Sam Shamoan, and I know its time to eat, because he stay cooking.
Oh simple af 🤣🫡
Right 😂
Daniel is one of the best apologists for Christianity I've ever heard
Ide say James white
@@jonathandutra4831 you know he was being sarcastic right?
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Facts
Jesus Christ is King 👑
*19:35** Noble Qur'an*
مَا كَانَ لِلَّهِ أَن يَتَّخِذَ مِن وَلَدٍۢ ۖ سُبْحَـٰنَهُۥٓ ۚ إِذَا قَضَىٰٓ أَمْرًۭا فَإِنَّمَا يَقُولُ لَهُۥ كُن فَيَكُونُ ٣٥
It is not [befitting] for Allāh to take a son; exalted is He! When He decrees an affair, He only says to it, "Be," and it is.
I can say the same about Allah, so what's the point? At least be honest that you can be wrong.
@@DontOpenThisChannel Sure I can be wrong. Just like you can be a unicorn that flies around and gives candy to all the good little boys and girls (just keep those little boys and girls away from creepy mohummed)
@@ouch000u cope boy. Be a good little muslim or your imam will use his imam belt on you
Again I'll say. Jesus Christ is king of kings and Lord of lords. allah's superior by an infinite amount.
Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life.
Showed this to my muslim homie he’s a Christian now 🎉🎉
Cap 🤡
God bless him 🫡✝️
@@OpIslam13I hope it's true. Why follow a pdfile when you can follow the creator of the universe, the Lord Jesus Christ.
Stop lying son, just stop and have some dignity! It’s something you don’t know much about I know..
@@OpIslam13No. Supercap hhhh
I was once a Muslim, but I can no longer follow this lie of a "religion".
Sam and Jay DESTROYED ISLAM
@@OrthodoxTitan how?
@@DontOpenThisChannel Basic logic, islam destroys itself over & over, makes absolute claims about reality yet presents zero forensic evidence for said over the top claims.
@@DontOpenThisChannel Use your ears and brain
Totally did!
Yeah totally Mecca and Medina is empty
Anyway let's applaud the 2 muslim guys for daring to debate Sam shamoun.
AND Jay
@@HarryLoveTV correct
Yeah what a mistake, if he did any research he’d know to avoid Sam at all cost
Yea, Shamon and Jay are so clever dodging and turning around the context
@@faizyt12345 they were countering d Muslims by using d same points they raised against them if u don't understand
Danial just proved what Christian prince always say:( you can’t debate a liar, you only get him busted ) Danial is big liar and shouldn’t anyone debate him
Daniel got busted and ijaz busted his trousers 🤣 do islame proud boys
Imagine having to bring up your opponent’s ex instead of addressing his points 💀
you mean the plumber? that was funny.
@@kakarote100Just shows Daniel lost the debate
@@ashleyn8946 sam attacked our prophet with lies, Daniel spoke the truth to break down sam's illusion of a moral high ground.
Because Muslims cannot defend the actions of Muhammad who is the Islamic prophet and supposed best example for all time while Sam is just a Christian apologist on the internet.
@@kakarote100Sam was speaking facts about Muhammad. Everything he said, Momo did it and it’s recorded in your books. Why are you guys so embarrassed of MOMO? he’s not a real prophets you guys are like the Mormons believing a man centuries after Jesus and he self proclaimed to be a prophet. Just like Momo
Daniel lost at the moment they turned to morality, everyone knows you can’t date a nine year old girl.
Moo🐄Ha😂Mad😡 Can🗑
You cant date at any age in Islam...lol...yes 9 year old in 2024 is a solid N-O. However the ages of Marriage have been increasing over centuries. It was acceptable to marry 12-15 year old in as recent as early 20th century. And in early ages we need to understand the mortality rates, we need to understand socio-economic factors. Just as an example, in 2024 eventhough legal age of marriage is 18, I wouldn't get my daughter married at 18 just because she is not ready. Society today needs to revisit and increase this age to at least 25. and possibly 1000 years from now, you would find people condemning 18 year old getting married. its all relative.
@@farazahmed2623 Factually this is wrong, morality is objective, if Allah wanted us to marry nine year olds He would have outlined it clearly rather than outlawing it. We shouldn’t encourage the government to keep screwing with our hormone levels to justify child marriage.
@@farazahmed2623 You really don't get that it's not just that he did it, It's that he is the perfect example for ETERNITY by your own standard and your false allah even allows it in Q65:5 where he clarifies that those who have not yet menstruated their iddah (waiting period if they have had intercourse) is 3 months.
Even granting your theory that it's relative and in 1000 years ppl would condemn 18y old marrying, still by your quran standard marrying a 6y old is fine and consummating at 9 as your profit did.
@@farazahmed2623 tldr, cope or turn to Christ. You know marrying 9 year olds is wrong
Islam showing true colours by attacking the debater.
😂😂😂
Teachings directly from Muhammed. 😂
Quote the Hadith... Or are you lying? I thought it was 'without lies islam dies'?
@@chike3539It's a joke, you sperg
@@chike3539well your told to be like Muhammad and the fact that he slept with a 9 year old tells me if he would sleep with a child he would definitely do this. 😅🤣🤣🤣
Scum shampoo, was attacking first he learned from the teaching of Jesus 😂
@@chike3539I think he’s referring to the blood that Muhammad left in his wake