For whatever it's worth I feel your pain. There is no game, particularly in the strategy genre's that is simultaneously as great and as aggravating as Xcom, in it's various iterations. These retaliation missions are among the worst for seeming to put you into a no win situation. There are always ways to get thru these individual missions but it's often something as silly as starting off with a different character. Mind you these missions can be played through "ironman" style with the correct strategy but so much off the beneficial and the harmful things you can do don't become evident till a few month's later (game time). If you are interested in developing your game for the ironman style there are two you tube creators that I would recommend. TapCat and Syken Plays. TapCats been mostly quiet of late but he has done at least 10 full campaigns, usually on legendary in Ironman style. Also he has occasionally teamed up with Syken, who also does many strategy runs in several different games. Syken also did several runs where different viewers would send a seemingly hopelessly lost campaign to him that he would play and save over 4 to 8 episodes. I learned a lot about playing the Xcom (and other) games. Good luck.
im gonna preface that i wont be calling myself an expert or anything but i do have an 4k+ hours in the game and beat x-com xcom 2 and war of the chosen on ironman impossible. i got a few that might be usefull to you. Im gonna start off with 3 things. You never wanna dash(use both your moves) if you dont know where your enemies are. At best you wanna use your first move to trigger the enemy and the second move to get into cover 'preferably full cover'. Never move another soldier further the one doing the scouting. I know this is a relaliation misson and it makes you wanna hurry da f up and save averyone.. DONT. Pacing yourself is espicialy important on these maps. Rushing rather than getting into a good position is more than often gonna make the fight take longer and make you take more damage, which results in the other groups getting more turns to shoot civilians. Sometimes if you are out of position its often better to run backwards into cover with an overwatch its even better if you can do this while breaking line of sight from the enemy. This forces them to run at you to find you. So now you not only have a chance to do damage with overwatch but you are most like in very favorable cover too and its your turn next aswell :P. And as you found out yourself if your squadies stands to close to eachother the muton will nade you 100% of the time and the aoe is pretty big. You proly heard some of these before but what i will stress is the importance of diciplining yourself to actualy do them which isnt easy.... i know. I dunno if you will find any of this usefull or helpfull but i hope it will. Best of luck with your playtrough
@TheRufas24 thanks for the tips man but btw that play through has ended because before that mission I lost three good soldiers because of bad pod activations by the snake people and then I lost the rest in that one and the 5 supplies were no help with getting more soldiers not only that because of 2 dark events I couldn't keep up with the avatar project so I had a rookie and 2 injured soldiers and the closest alien facility was two regions away and into was 120 Intel and 8 days and btw I had like 10 intel
For whatever it's worth I feel your pain. There is no game, particularly in the strategy genre's that is simultaneously as great and as aggravating as Xcom, in it's various iterations. These retaliation missions are among the worst for seeming to put you into a no win situation. There are always ways to get thru these individual missions but it's often something as silly as starting off with a different character. Mind you these missions can be played through "ironman" style with the correct strategy but so much off the beneficial and the harmful things you can do don't become evident till a few month's later (game time). If you are interested in developing your game for the ironman style there are two you tube creators that I would recommend. TapCat and Syken Plays. TapCats been mostly quiet of late but he has done at least 10 full campaigns, usually on legendary in Ironman style. Also he has occasionally teamed up with Syken, who also does many strategy runs in several different games. Syken also did several runs where different viewers would send a seemingly hopelessly lost campaign to him that he would play and save over 4 to 8 episodes. I learned a lot about playing the Xcom (and other) games. Good luck.
Thx man I'll check them out
im gonna preface that i wont be calling myself an expert or anything but i do have an 4k+ hours in the game and beat x-com xcom 2 and war of the chosen on ironman impossible. i got a few that might be usefull to you. Im gonna start off with 3 things. You never wanna dash(use both your moves) if you dont know where your enemies are. At best you wanna use your first move to trigger the enemy and the second move to get into cover 'preferably full cover'. Never move another soldier further the one doing the scouting. I know this is a relaliation misson and it makes you wanna hurry da f up and save averyone.. DONT. Pacing yourself is espicialy important on these maps. Rushing rather than getting into a good position is more than often gonna make the fight take longer and make you take more damage, which results in the other groups getting more turns to shoot civilians. Sometimes if you are out of position its often better to run backwards into cover with an overwatch its even better if you can do this while breaking line of sight from the enemy. This forces them to run at you to find you. So now you not only have a chance to do damage with overwatch but you are most like in very favorable cover too and its your turn next aswell :P. And as you found out yourself if your squadies stands to close to eachother the muton will nade you 100% of the time and the aoe is pretty big. You proly heard some of these before but what i will stress is the importance of diciplining yourself to actualy do them which isnt easy.... i know. I dunno if you will find any of this usefull or helpfull but i hope it will. Best of luck with your playtrough
@TheRufas24 thanks for the tips man but btw that play through has ended because before that mission I lost three good soldiers because of bad pod activations by the snake people and then I lost the rest in that one and the 5 supplies were no help with getting more soldiers not only that because of 2 dark events I couldn't keep up with the avatar project so I had a rookie and 2 injured soldiers and the closest alien facility was two regions away and into was 120 Intel and 8 days and btw I had like 10 intel
@@arcticsnow90 ouch!. yeah that sounds realy rough.
you are a bad player
@@regisoliver934 you don't say