This makes me so glad that my business is commercial RTU's, some of which are R22 units from 20 years ago. You guys have fun spending more money on new equipment. That will not be me.
Awesome, so if your evaporator develops a leak during the winter you get no heat and an ac service problem. Tell me the positive side of this transition. This is the USA not Europe.
Notice how over the last 15 years all these new systems cost a lot more but the reliability is complete crap compared to the older stuff and only getting worse? This is why I’m retiring at the end of the year after 32 years in HVAC. The EPA is asshoe. Y’all have fun with this crap.😂
Then the EPA will move the goal post again. They managed to scam on the ozone layer depletion ignoring the facts that one volcanic eruption will put more chlorine in the upper atmosphere than most of the cfcs that are now banned.
How much more efficient is R32 assuming it the same system. How much money will a customer save during summer assuming temps and price of electricity are the same.
The change is more for a better GWP between the refrigerants. Not necessarily for system efficiency. The multiple stages of a compressor, and size of the condenser coils will affect the SEER rating more.
And what if the sensor fails/stuck closed? And what about lineset leaks? Will there be sensors for that? Both refrigerants are heavier than air and I fear attics filling with flammable gas with no way of knowing it until it’s too late. Mark my words, technicians will eventually do leak searches starting from the front door for gas and refrigerant before turning on any attic lights or bringing electrical equipment up to the attic, and will charge HO’s accordingly. I hope Homeowners can sue the federal government for such short sightedness fueled by greed masked by environmental protection
Yeah. EPA bitched on R22 cuz it depletes Ozone so they approved R410A with ALL manufacturers (Carrier, Trane, Lennox, Rheem, Goodman and their brothers sisters) crapping on their coils, now comes with even weaker crap: micro channel lmao. They have seen R22 system leaking very little compare to R410A system. This is equivalent to "hey u guys go make new refrigerants and idc how good ur coils making technology is, make them all leaking out so sell more rich more womp womp" kinda thing. Smh, how do I sue 1 month old coil not holding refrigerant tho??
We have used R32 for some years nowadays in most of Europe Most heat pumps use it, is great on pool heat pumps. Low taxes and good performance the hydrocarbons. Used on cascade system I served all back at least for 40 years ++ Hopefully the low temperature cascades can adapt to HC . USA made equipment still use the R508 A-B-C on cascade system 😳mostly type B (Suva 95) It is so horrible due to that the refrigerant is almost absent these days. Here you pay (if still accessible) with GWP tax $ 2000 ++ for just one LB if lucky to get it. Many expensive system owners will get a hard hit by their units will be trash soon😳
This isn’t anything new we got rid of R 12 & R502 we learn to recover refrigerant & learn all the different refrigerant that’s on the market.The cost is going to pass down consumer and a lot of guys won’t be gas go anymore for your customer your going going to give them options anymore they going to have to repair refrigerant leak or replace a refrigerant part. l hear anything refrigerant equipment that takes about #10 Ib of refrigerant the system going to need sensor for any refrigerant leaks its going to shut down system its all to do with liability.
More brilliance from the EPA. Don't let the fact that R-410a is twice as bad for the environment than R-22 ever was. They know what they're doing now. lol
This makes me so glad that my business is commercial RTU's, some of which are R22 units from 20 years ago. You guys have fun spending more money on new equipment. That will not be me.
Good job guys..
Awesome, so if your evaporator develops a leak during the winter you get no heat and an ac service problem. Tell me the positive side of this transition. This is the USA not Europe.
More emergency calls, more $$$
So in case of a refrigerant leak the blower will dissipate the flammable refrigerant throughout the whole house…???
YES!
There has to be a high concentration to be flammable. That's why it's dissipated
It’s a risk DuPont is willing to take.
Because it a flammable gas that it’s why it’s a left handed thread
Yes, to distinguish between A2L and non.
sensing pressure or just a regular leak detector?
As far as I know so far, will be a sniffer but it will work more of a major loss of charge sensor. I dont see them working on really small leaks.
Notice how over the last 15 years all these new systems cost a lot more but the reliability is complete crap compared to the older stuff and only getting worse? This is why I’m retiring at the end of the year after 32 years in HVAC.
The EPA is asshoe. Y’all have fun with this crap.😂
You are correct except about the EPA.
Looks like junk but we will make a lot of money on change outs
Great. An industry of scammers.
Then the EPA will move the goal post again. They managed to scam on the ozone layer depletion ignoring the facts that one volcanic eruption will put more chlorine in the upper atmosphere than most of the cfcs that are now banned.
If you are A2L certified does that include R600 (A3) too?
"A2L" refers to a classification of refrigerants that includes mildly flammable options like R-32 and R-454B
How much more efficient is R32 assuming it the same system. How much money will a customer save during summer assuming temps and price of electricity are the same.
The change is more for a better GWP between the refrigerants. Not necessarily for system efficiency. The multiple stages of a compressor, and size of the condenser coils will affect the SEER rating more.
It's probably less efficient😂 this is really just to make companies billions of dollars
@@wurthmannd024 I’m only interested in does it cost more less or the same to run in a heat pump system
And what if the sensor fails/stuck closed? And what about lineset leaks? Will there be sensors for that? Both refrigerants are heavier than air and I fear attics filling with flammable gas with no way of knowing it until it’s too late. Mark my words, technicians will eventually do leak searches starting from the front door for gas and refrigerant before turning on any attic lights or bringing electrical equipment up to the attic, and will charge HO’s accordingly. I hope Homeowners can sue the federal government for such short sightedness fueled by greed masked by environmental protection
Yeah. EPA bitched on R22 cuz it depletes Ozone so they approved R410A with ALL manufacturers (Carrier, Trane, Lennox, Rheem, Goodman and their brothers sisters) crapping on their coils, now comes with even weaker crap: micro channel lmao. They have seen R22 system leaking very little compare to R410A system. This is equivalent to "hey u guys go make new refrigerants and idc how good ur coils making technology is, make them all leaking out so sell more rich more womp womp" kinda thing. Smh, how do I sue 1 month old coil not holding refrigerant tho??
We have used R32 for some years nowadays in most of Europe Most heat pumps use it, is great on pool heat pumps.
Low taxes and good performance the hydrocarbons.
Used on cascade system I served all back at least for 40 years ++
Hopefully the low temperature cascades can adapt to HC .
USA made equipment still use the R508 A-B-C on cascade system 😳mostly type B (Suva 95)
It is so horrible due to that the refrigerant is almost absent these days.
Here you pay (if still accessible) with GWP tax $ 2000 ++ for just one LB if lucky to get it.
Many expensive system owners will get a hard hit by their units will be trash soon😳
This is all done on purpose so that companies can make billions of dollars
Yea more nuisance trips.
epa has to go
The shitty mind control type music is extremely annoying
The Goofy music makes this video unwatchable.
This isn’t anything new we got rid of R 12 & R502 we learn to recover refrigerant & learn all the different refrigerant that’s on the market.The cost is going to pass down consumer and a lot of guys won’t be gas go anymore for your customer your going going to give them options anymore they going to have to repair refrigerant leak or replace a refrigerant part. l hear anything refrigerant equipment that takes about #10 Ib of refrigerant the system going to need sensor for any refrigerant leaks its going to shut down system its all to do with liability.
More brilliance from the EPA. Don't let the fact that R-410a is twice as bad for the environment than R-22 ever was. They know what they're doing now. lol
410a is 'twice as bad'? Tell us more.
@@Factory400 Look it up on the GWP chart yourself.